2019 BMW F850 GS Adventure Review
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- Опубліковано 3 вер 2019
- 2019 BMW F850 GS Adventure Review: I first rode the new BMW F850 GS, in non-adventure guise, back in July 2018 and was very impressed with the machine, so I was very keen to try the Adventure variant as soon as it became available - in this first ride review filmed earlier in the year, I take a look at how the big brother of the F850GS family shapes up. Stay tuned for lots more on the F850GSA soon!
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Another great review TMF, thank you for sharing it!! Safe rides!
Nice review as always TMF. Really good looking bike in that colour scheme. Thanks again.
I’ve been looking forward to your thoughts on this bike. Love the look of it. Perfect bike in my mind
The one hell of a review ..I've been waiting for ...cheers
Me too
Nice review, thanks!
For many riders the main difference between this and the big GS will be chain vs shaft drive. Some riders just love shaft drives and never look back to using chains again.
Yet again - a great review, thanks. I bought an F800GS when they were new about 10 years ago(?). By gum things have moved on a bit since then!
One of the best review of F850GS on YT. Loved the casual talk over all important features including ride height. I am from India, planning to buy this bike soon. Thanks a lot.
My pleasure - glad I could help!
Thanks for coming back on the review of this bike! No surprises on this one! LOL
Even the bike looks fantastic is never gonna have that nice deep sound of the big brother 1200 or 1250! After I sold my 1100 gs I got a 700 gs but i miss the sound of the big boxer engine! Nothing wrong with the 700 other the small tank but my next bike will be probably a used 1200 gsa! Great job on review of the 850 gsa! Cheers!
Thanks for the review! Good that I can count on you for my biking fix, it just started raining here :(
No one does bike reviews like you do. Love your videos.
I bought one recently after test riding back to back with 1250. This is more fun, is really agile, handles great and much better value for money. I love it.
Very nice review of the BMW and a good day out
Another cracking review Andy I’m loving mine I was out riding with a few really quick boys the other weekend and they couldn’t shake me off and they all said how capable the bike was especially on the twisties Keep up the good work pal ride safe 👍
You too Pete - good to hear from you mate!
Really like the look and the price of the 850GSA rallye sport. Then I saw the chain drive.
I think this would’ve been a serious contender for my next new bike if it had a shaft.
Love the review Andy, great job as always. Keep up the good work.
Thank you Gary...
Nice review as always. Bike seems really good too. Cheers!
Great review, as always. I test rode the F850GSA and R1250 GS Rallye X back to back in Aus a couple of months ago, and l agree 100% with your thoughts. I was very impressed with the 850. Great sound and performance, and typical BMW build quality. No initial fork dive as on the Africa Twin either. I did get a chance to do some dirt road and was very impressed with the handling, (it too had a full tank). It sure made my old 05’ 1200GS, (which I’ve owned 8 years), feel like an old tractor, and not much difference in HP! Enjoying your reviews, all the best,
Grant.
Thank you Grant - appreciate the kind words!
Good little review (as always)
Nice bike....I love these mid-sized ‘tall-rounders’. Sensible power, sensible price, great tank size and parallel twins are brill. Looks like you could ride it all day, though I’d prefer a quadrophonic swing arm for that price! 😉😉. Very nice review!
Absolutely fantastic review. Thank you. Excellent work sir, very professionally carried out. I’m impressed. Neil C
Thank you Neil
Timely review indeed. Wonderful machine there. Just last night I rolled my spanking brand new 2019 Triumph Tiger 800 XCA into my garage. Side note...... Thank You Great Britain for giving the world Triumph Motorbikes !!!!!! 👍🏼. Words cannot describe how much I LOVE this machine. Thanks TMF for allowing me to go on about my new ❤️ love. 🇺🇸
Congrats on the new bike!
My new Triumph is the best bike on the planet. Britain is a top notch bike builder, bar none. 🇺🇸
@@bradleyalexander5821 yep,but your bike was made in Thailand!
Love the barnstormer logo and back roads leading to the local airport! I like the single sided swing arm.I miss the analog tachometer.
What single sided swing?
Definitely a BMW fanboy! You were gushing 😂
Another thumbs up review. Whiz wheel. A new phrase to me. I love it. Hang on while I play with my whiz wheel.
Nice review, man!
Thanks for Another nice review Andy and for pickling my head 😂 I have been looking at this one and the R1250RS
Get a 1250.
I prefer the R1250RS if the budget stretches....less heavy feeling and more go!
Blooming heck, if Spring has sprung that's one hell of a lie in I've just had 😱
That’ll teach me to make reference to the time of year when I record these things! This one has been “in the can” for some months...
@@TheMissendenFlyer Have you got so far ahead of yourself that you're now out of date 🤔.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Trees are a bit of a give away!
HAHA I thought the same thing "Spring has sprung?" The leaves are falling!!
Ian H I assume the “ H” is for Holmes 🔎🧐
Thanks for this video Andy, even if spring is well past sprung. I've been curious about the F850GS or a 1250GS to replace my V-Strom 650 next season. It took a fair number of additions and edits to make the V-Strom pleasurable to ride, and even now that I like it, it's not a long termer as it's not sufficiently quick to avoid some of the dangerous manoeuvres made on the 400 series highways here at home. Will be arranging demo rides at my dealer but this was a good introduction so thanks again.
Great review! Enjoyed from a sun lounger in Cape Verde..... England sure lost its leaves quickly, I only left on Monday 😜😆
Yep - frosty here today....enjoy the sunshine....
Thanks for posting..great review as ever. Nice bike in isolation but its just too heavy (way more than my non LC GS that has shaft drive, & more than standard boxer LC).
If I didn't already own a R1200GS & was in the market I don't see any reason why I'd buy this over the boxer unless I was determined to buy new & needed to save the cash.
Having said that I'm a road rider, but surely for those doing more off road the Yamaha Tenere 700 would be a lighter & cheaper option?
Thank you for posting. Great video. A couple of questions. Why would a person objectively prefer to purchase the 850 vs the 1250 and vice versa? Also, how would you compare the 850 to the equivalent KTM bike?
My local dealer loaned me the F860 GS Adventure as my R NineT was in for its 6,500 service ; i have to say i was totally impressed with it
Excellent review. Thank you for sharing
Ciao
Thank you for watching!
My pleasure
Great review TMF and I agree, at standstill loving around it feels such a heavy bike and not well balanced especially getting it onto the centre stand. I’ve a 2018 GS Adventure so know what heavy feels like but this is at the limit. Also dives so much in those standard forks, just didn’t like it but I do live the looks of the GSA version of the 850👍
I do wish they'd design some sort of pivoting bits on the screen which could point forward and scoop air towards the rider. Rather like the opening vent windows on old cars. That would be of great comfort here in the tropics.
glad to see this one TMF thanks
I think I would buy one just for that Sat Nav configuration and control. Thanks again Sir.........Sal : )
I recently traded my 1200 GSA LC for that same bike. I wouldn't have considered it, or purchased it for the MSRP price of $19.9k US. Mine has the factory Akrapovic pipe bringing that price up to 19.9. Since the dealer knocked off $5k it made more sense. So far I really like it and it definitely is better on the dirt than the 1200 GSA.
Looks like a good bike and another great couple of reviews. I'm glad BMW have put the exhaust on the right on this model, having it on the left on several older models always spoilt the looks. This looks much better.
The only real disadvantage I can see over the bigger GS's is the lack of shaft drive, particularly if it's being used as a long distance tourer. That said, as a mid sized tourer I still wonder if the Yamaha Tracer 900 GT, is much better value or money.
Again, one of the better reviews, thanks! In a few months it will be time to replace my Tiger 800, I was looking forward for the new Tiger 900, but this should be an interesting alternative!
Defo worth a go I reckon....
Cheers for that, TMF.
Definitely my next bike. I've only just brought my first "big bike" but once that no claims build up over a few years I'm going straight for the 850 GS. Such brilliant bikes
Screamingtilltheend I’ve just bought a 2014 r1200gs te after 8 months of riding the insurance wasn’t bad and I was only paying £120 for my bandit for the year.
@@jonathanlees5241 I only have a year no claims and im 24 so insurance is quite insane, I currently have an 02 Triumph sprint RS 955 and insurance is about £600 a year which is pretty average out of all the bikes I was looking at, hopefully another year or two on the no claims and getting over the 25 year age bracket should bring it down enough to where its possible
Screamingtilltheend yeh I don’t have any no claims yet but suppose being 30 helps
Hey,
once again a very good test ride video. I value them very much as I am working on my licence (Germany) at the moment and am in the market for a motorcycle. So your test rides help me a lot to figure out what kind of bike could be something for me.
And I was looking for that wiper thingy you have on your left hand but couldn't find it anywhere. Could you please provide a link to that item as I consider to have one of these for me as well?
Thx very much and keep up the great work. I am looking very much forward to some new tours which I am sure you will share sooner or later. I love the Scotland tour and Norway. Awesome videos from there!
Greeting from Germany
Great review Mr. I've just configured one on the BMW site, 13K, which I think is great value, for the same spec Tiger it is close to 14k. You are giving me a lot to think about , I've got a 2017 Tiger xca, which is good but not great.
Nice vid love the bike.
Good review TMF
Nice one Tmf good review .good looking bike in blue as well.thanks from Danny
It is like an Africa Twin, but with T/L tyres, modern dash, centre stand, sat nav enabled and high tech suspension.
I've been looking at this bike lately, as i've been looking for a more "long travels" bike. The basic F850 GS stock is pretty cheap. But of course you want all the good stuff on it, and the price follow the wish list. I feel like they messed up a bit with the F750 GS and F850 GS though. The 750 is more street friendly, while the 850 is more offroad focused. They have the exact same engine, but the 850 is a lot more powerful. But the logic says you'd be better of with that extra power and torque that's in the 850 on road. You're not likely to do tight twisties with nobby tires and adventure kits. Why not call them all 850 and call them Road, Adventure and Offroad/Rally versions? They already have a lot of letters and names already...
Great review TMF. One thing that does worry me about the bike is that side stand and the slightly alarming angle it puts the bike at on what looked like a level surface. On a slight camber or my local Edinburgh cobbled streets that would worry me. My Africa Twin Adventure Sport is quite upright on the stand but because of it carrying its weight a bit higher like the 850 appears to, if you try to get the stand down with a few cm less of road underneath you it dips alarmingly and is bloody murder to get back off the stand. Do you think that’s an issue here?
Maidenhead, Marlow, White Waltham airfield. My favourite weekend route :) great review TMF.. pricey though
Hey TMF! Doing some research on a rainy Sunday. Looking to change my Tracer 700 this year. Currently considering this fab GS in Adventure spec plus the Tiger 900, Africa Twin and even the Moto Guzzi V85 Travel, (which I know you don’t like the look of!). Thanks as always to your excellent and comprehensive reviews, I think I’m swinging towards this F850….To be continued! Cheers!
The F850 feels heavier than a 1250GS be warned!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Yes I think that might be a deal-breaker. Africa Twin test ahead!
Beautiful machine, not a fan of tall/heavy bikes, great work,thanks
Ahhhh spring... I remember you so fondly. Now summer and riding season here is coming to an end and it's a bummer.
Tell me about it!
I pity you guys in the northern climes. Where I am in Australia we can ride all year round. Here on the coast we can get glorious Winter days with 15-18 degC, even 20 degC days.
Jurgen Treue Here in New York I can ride about seven months out of the year, but still can get in the odd ride in March and November even being a fair weather rider. It sure makes you appreciate the nice days of spring summer and fall though!
Entry level 14k? Am i alone here? bought a Vesys 650, luggage hand guards and other extras 200kg 250 tank range . Under 7k Ok no fancy electrics but excellent front brake great intuitive abs, silky smooth fueling No euro 4 juddering! have come to realise pushing its limits now bedded in, why this dark horse under the radar bike is such a hoot to ride.
Adam Childs, MSN loves his and thats saying something.
Enjoyed the Motorrad BMW roadshow last Sunday at Whyteways cafe bury hill. Excellent live band!
Felt sorry for the blonde young lady who as one of the test ride posse's was leaving dropped the s1000rr ouch!!!
Enjoying your reviews as always Mr TMF.
Love that engine sound great twin
Been hoping you'd do the 850! Cheers!
Lots more to come on this bike Dan!
Another GS review. I was hoping for the norton review. # patiently waiting
...currently scheduled for October the 7th...sorry for the wait...
I'm thinking of buying brand new for the first time. The plethora of bikes to choose from is really confusing and hard to make any decisions. My own UA-cam channel talks about this.
I'm stuck between the BMW gs850 and the vstrom1000.
Everyone seems to want these BMWs but I'm not sure if these warrant a premium price over other bikes available?
Yep I've just gone for one , tried the standard gs and was desperate bad on wind noise but rest of bike was great so the Adventure spec will be better for wind I hope!
I just purchased this bike yesterday! Exact same bike as mine.
I’m looking at this exact model used or the tenere 700. Thanks for the great review as always
No problem 👍
Thanks for the review. I had one of these as a loaner while my GSA was in for service. Too much fork drive when braking - been spoiled by mine I think. Also thought it a bit underpowered for my liking. I'm no racer but I like having a few more bhp when overtaking etc. Otherwise a nice bike and deffo easier to move around than my GSA. Cheers!!
Thanks for watching and for stopping by!
One difference you didn't mention between the Boxer & this model, this one is chain final drive versus shaft drive for the larger bike. That might put some folks off.
Back to Moto guzzi v85tt then :)
I never understood why people shy away from chain drives. Takes 2 mins to tighten/lube and better fuel economy.
I had an old cruiser with shaft drive years ago. When the shaft busted, it cost me the cost of 10 chains and sprockets to fix.
Excellent as always would be a very nice tourer for the price
Fantastic review! Would you reccomend this restricted to an a2 license? Furthermore please could you do a full in depth look and review of the BMW TFT just like you have done with the triumph one? Many thanks in advance.
Nice review & bike. Looks good too. To me this makes a lot more sense than the 1250 in most ways, especially in the UK unless you ride two up most of the time or you're in Europe going up and down the Autobahn frequently.
I agree - this size of bike hits the sweet spot for real road riding...
Rage Rider I agree, think I’ll be down sizing next time I change bikes. So many great middleweights out there and much better vfm.
@@TheMissendenFlyer,, in my opinion, 90-100hp is just about right for everyday road riding.
@@neilb4297 Yep. Agree totally. There are so many great middleweights of every make and type flooding the market now. Plus the performance of middleweights now is practically the same as "big" bikes only a few years ago, which incidentally is more than enough for the road.
I suspect a lot of that extra top end weight is due to the high capacity fuel tank which, as you said, was full at the time of your ride. Nice review TMF. If I was in the market for a large, or largish Adventure Bike, I think this is the one I'd be looking at. Especially as it, also, has a decent financial inducement over the 1250GS. You can do quite a lot of adventuring with the saving you'd make.
Indeed!
spring! I had to check the posted date.!
...well it was Spring when I recorded the video...apologies if it confused you...
@@TheMissendenFlyer i guess the f850gs rallye has no cruise control....just teesing you...keep up the great work...look foward to the air/ground race vid.
I liked the 850gd that I ve got the 850 sport and after gently “keeping it down” couple of times in low speed hiccups, I’ve gotten used to it and just move off quicker and be sharper in slow manoeuvres. the engine has loads of Torque and the “made in land of iPhone” engine is lively combined with the QS is smoothly fast. It hits silly speeds in seconds in dynamic
Plus you can set up the ride modes and on the move so dial power up or down, for me, its not that heavy to be able filtering through London traffic. Also I’ve gotten used to pushing it around/ back so parking is now sorted.
It’s an all an year rounder and looking forward to the autumn and winter... and spring 😂😂 where I plan to have solo trips and swing the wider world ..
I’ve seen a clip where these guys in the US were riding it in snow.its why not? fun and challenging and looking forward to it... I think I got a good deal on. a nearly new for about 9.5k with lots of extras plus 2 year dealer warranty.
Ace review!
Thank you very much...
Spring is the new Fall.Probably.
Finally a good video on my dream Adventure bike, would be cool if these got a Boxer engines as well.
how tall are you? i am 181 and in store these bikes look kinda tall and difficult to handle in town traffic.
I'm 5'8" in old money....
I like that bike, I really do.
I had the old F800GSA, it was a nose diver... How about the new one?
Hi TMF - so it would be fair to say that in comparison with the 1200 or 1250 it lacks top end grunt? I guess that the drawback wouldn’t just apply to speed but also to pick up etc when fully loaded for a tour? A friend had one of the earlier models and toured all over Europe but now knows what he was missing with the 1209GS - a fair comment? Anyway, a fine review as always and thanks from Portugal! Yours aye, Alan
Great video and all, but I have a q. You did now 2 f850GSA videos, and 0 F850GS videos, why is that?
I'm really interested in the lighter and cheaper 850. Is there a chance you will do it in the future?
I see they are using the 850 gs for the International GS Trophy in Feb 2020 in New Zealand its, going to be interesting to see.
Really? I wasn't aware of that....
Blimey did you rediscover this vid at the back of the cupboard, spring?
Something like that - I do tend to record well in advance, I have videos already recorded that aren’t scheduled to be published until next Spring!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Slovenia! 👍👍👍
Waiting for F850R here.
Just rewatching this review TMF. How does the weight distribution compare with the recent Africa Twin AS you reviewed, ie low down weight vs high up weight ? Is it more similar to the big GS ? Great review by the way. Thanks
No - more similar to the AT but worse - the 850GS is very top heavy IMO - feels heavier than a 1200/1250GS to move arouind
@TheMissendenFLyer Great review! If you had to choose between an Multistrada 950S (2019) or the F850gsa which one would you choose and why?
Possibly the Multistrada - looks better, feels lighter and it’s a Ducati!
TheMissendenFlyer I testdrove both and the Ducati gave more of a quality feel compared to the BMW. But felt like the BMW was more comfortable. I thought you were a BMW lover !?
The iPad on the handlebars is spiffy, but honestly, when I ride, I'm usually looking down the road. Looks really nice in videos though.
Good touring bike.Thks.
Hi Andy, BTW, interesting piece in this week’s MCN comparing the R1250R & Gs1250. No doubt you will be discussing that in your MCN end of month round up. Someone also mentions you regarding climate change... good luck with that one. BTW, re centre stands, does your new Speed Twin have one? Cheers, Pete
I had the 800gs, good bike, but traded it in for the Africa Twin. Found the gs really buzzy and lacking low end torque. Sounded like a sewing machine, as well. I wonder how much improved this newer version is? Love the new display. Enjoying the Honda much more. The one main advantage the 800gs had was better cornering due to lighter weight.
Think it’s lost some of it’s character by switching from 270 degree firing order to a 180 degree order. Between this and the Africa Twin, I’d be inclined to go for the Beemer. As a Triumph fan boy, it’ll be interesting to see a comparison to the new 900 cc Tiger that’s coming out next year.
Interesting to see that the side stand is considerably shorter than on my standard F850 GS which is a nightmare - you really have to be careful where you park up.
Same here, BMW wouldn't replace mine even though they know its to long, strange thing is, they have replaced for others.
@@fastfrankee Interesting to know - I will try BMW Carlisle and let you know how I get on.
@@robindown, Thanks would appreciate that.
Lol I’ve just asked a question about the opposite problem. I guess it must all be a compromise
@@andrewwatson9586 Intrigued by this - I have seen the same comment on an F850 Forum. The side stand on my F850 is approx 325mm - are they fitting different stands to the same bike or am I missing something?
Nine months after buying my F850 GS Sport in September 2018 and commuting into central London every day over the winter I felt that the weight was too high up and the bike didn't feel as stable at low speeds as I would like. I am also not tall at 5ft 7in. I also found the fork dive had become disconcerting and the font forks on these are non-adjustable. Yes I appreciate it's an adventure bike but I preferred the up-right position for commuting. On that basis the F850 GSA is a non-starter for me. I was already being drawn to the 1200 GS by the lower weight and the telelever suspension (the latter TMF didn't mention) and felt these would cure my issues. However, insuring the 'big' GS on a London postcode is ridiculously expensive. An accident when commuting home at the end of May wrote the bike off and I am now undecided what to buy next. Also learned a lesson: buy gap insurance! My non-fault accident will likely see me £2-3k out of pocket. Any suggestions TMF?
Move?
Im curious if the model you rode had lowered suspension as well as a lower seat? I'm hoping it doesn't because I'm getting an almost new 2021 F850GSA - and I'm 5'8" too - and hope I won't need a lowering kit as long as I'm using a factory low seat. Thanks for a lovely quick first impression 😀
I think this was standard suspension with low seat IIRC
The 12 volt socket can be used for a compressor not just for phones and sat nav if it was usb important on a proper adventure bike why don’t BMW make a navigation app for your phone that shows up on the main screen like ktm that you could control through the wizz wheel to save having to install the separate navigation the bracket for which spoils the look of all there bikes great review as always
Yes I agree - only a matter of time surely?
BMW make a lot of money from their sat nav 👍
I forgot to mention that the screen and seat you have on this bike is not standard. The Rallye comes with a really small screen (more for off roading) and a bench seat that is quite high and hard for that matter (like a KTM). I think the screen was taken off an exclusive model and as you say a low seat was put on for you. I have put one of those clamp on screen extenders for now and it works fine for me at 6ft tall.
Yes I think you're right - I hate those useless small screens!
Was this shot I’m the Norwich area? I recognized the bridge and the boats. I visited a friend there in March.
No....Marlow in Buckinghamshire.
Love your reviews ,but wish you would mention first service cost and major service costs especially given B.M.W.'S prices. It is becoming more of a consideration when purchasing a new bike . My Triumph dealer servicing I have found out since purchasing my bike is pretty horrendous ,don't think I will be keeping the bike long term .
Michael Evans agree completely triumph main dealer prices are outrageous. There are alternatives in England? Check out “ muddy sump” great independent triumph mechanic
@@johnward3490 Just booked a service with the motorcycle barn Swanbourne Aylesbury . Ten thousand mile service £175 .
The increased fuel range is a major selling point for riders worried about getting stranded on the way to their local starbucks.
Thank you.
Big tank, recon the range would be good. Would you bother getting the 1260 when this is available? 🤔
Err, which 1260 Scott?
@@TheMissendenFlyer 1250 then, must have been thinking of the Multistrada. 😁
Had one when my 1200 was in for service. I thought it felt heavier and taller
How is this Beemer in crosswinds? I currently ride a Yammie XT660R, and that one is really like a bucking bronco in crosswinds. That would be on the top of my list for requirements as the coastal winds here in summer are a bit rough.
I dunno unfortunately - didn't get to try it on a windy day...
The 800gs was horrible in crosswinds, the Africa is way better.
Thanks for the great review. I am having a hard time deciding between the Tiger 900 Rally pro and the F850GS…. Any thoughts for me MrFlyer?😊
I’d have the Tiger, the BMW feels way to heavy…
@@TheMissendenFlyer thank you.👍 I guess touring 2 up even on the normal GS (not adventure) is a big no no ?!
Actually no - the "normal" GS actually feels much lighter to ride than the F850 as it carries it's weight much lower, the normal GS is a joy to live with, the F850 is a pain IMO!
I just did a test ride on the 850…. You are so right…It felt like such a pain in the backside… no comparison with the Tiger. The gear changes felt awkward and I could feel a thump in the clutch on every up and downshift from 15mph. Felt much less nimble and agile than the tiger 900. The GS offers a fairly plush ride overall but I would never take it off road. My choice is made Khaki Tiger 900 Rally Pro it is!
Good review, although at 5ft8in with a 30inch inseam this is way too tall for me. The din socket in 12v, usb is 5v so the din supports a range of other accessories other than mobile phones or sat nav (heated clothing springs to mind) that aren’t supported by usb. The din is also much more stable and less likely to jiggle loose. Maybe the question should be why don’t manufacturers provide both?
Anthony Price . I know right?? It really makes taking these bikes off road a struggle. I have a GSA which is factory lowered, but it’s still just a bit too tall and makes some off road riding a bit hairy!