Mistakes You Are Making When Playing Magic and 5 Ways You Can Fix Them

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  • What are you doing wrong in your games of Magic: The Gathering and 5 easy ways to improve your game.
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  • @CardmarketMagic
    @CardmarketMagic  3 місяці тому +24

    Click here for an inspiring example in old-school magic of how to think outside the box to win a game: bit.ly/497sZsF

    • @AzuriteCoast
      @AzuriteCoast 3 місяці тому +10

      Is there an article with two more mistakes like mentioned in the video?

    • @BusterKlondike
      @BusterKlondike 3 місяці тому +9

      While the article is interesting, it doesn't seem to be related to beginners making mistakes at all. Maybe this was accidental?

    • @narkfly
      @narkfly 3 місяці тому +2

      The pinned comment does not link to 2 more beginner mistakes to avoid, as stated in the video.

  • @LazarusIsBackBaby
    @LazarusIsBackBaby 3 місяці тому +46

    #1 is also known as "play to your outs," and it's the most useful piece of Magic advice I've ever gotten.

  • @MrHorobirus
    @MrHorobirus 3 місяці тому +100

    I'm really surprised that you never mentioned one of the most important skills in Magic. Do nothing is always an option, and in some situations it's a right one.

    • @halihalo21
      @halihalo21 3 місяці тому

      Whats the reason? Just to have mana open and scare the other ones? Im only playing Commander because its much more fun but i think not all of the rules mentioned here are good for commander. For example mana efficiency yes in most cases you will play like that but in commander are more situations where you have to be not mana efficient to have much more value in the next turn or turns.

    • @N3mdraz
      @N3mdraz 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@halihalo21 this is clearly not a commander specific tutorial.
      @mrhorobirus not using removal immediately is also like doing nothing. They explained it at the end

    • @qwteb
      @qwteb 2 місяці тому

      if you play commander you dont need these tips. it will upset your dumb playgroup lmao

    • @halihalo21
      @halihalo21 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@qwteb why dumb playgroup?

    • @zukiginagato2215
      @zukiginagato2215 2 місяці тому

      @@halihalo21 While bluff is good on commander, to leave your mana open as a way to intimidate... you need to remember that commander is a 4 people game. You not doing much while the game is in a controlled state let you do everything in one go after the opponents start taking care of the visible threats on the board.
      As an example if the guy immediately before you on a round is a control blue deck, its often better to not do anything big so he start wasting stuff on other's, so you will save your own removals and value while letting others do the control.

  • @TheCubicalGuy
    @TheCubicalGuy 3 місяці тому +173

    I can't get over how you flash Frank's face every time you say his name.

    • @TheRealLachlan
      @TheRealLachlan 3 місяці тому +1

      Bring him to the studio every time you say his name

    • @SufferingPlanet
      @SufferingPlanet 3 місяці тому +4

      Flash his face, but don't even link the article they're referencing. Making us do all the work.

  • @marginis
    @marginis 3 місяці тому +31

    These are legitimately good beginner mistakes to cover. I've seen a bunch of these kind of videos, but usually they're mistakes no one makes after literally their second game, or they're so obscure that people know how to fix them by the time they encounter them. These mistakes are actually realistic!

  • @laeclorentzen6111
    @laeclorentzen6111 3 місяці тому +90

    In standard my removal is reserved for Sheoldred

    • @ClockworkEngineer
      @ClockworkEngineer 3 місяці тому +2

      Why isn't your game over by turn 4 in the current standard?

    • @laeclorentzen6111
      @laeclorentzen6111 3 місяці тому +3

      @@ClockworkEngineer because not everyone is playing aggro lol

    • @metalhev3989
      @metalhev3989 3 місяці тому +2

      @@ClockworkEngineer because they had enough removal in hand to not die in the first 3 turns to the other 3 game-ending black creatures.
      Sure, there's a card-drawing fairy and an underdog in the graveyard, and you had to empty your hand to kill the trespasser, but surely they don't also have sheoldred right?

  • @DaKnifeCrow
    @DaKnifeCrow 3 місяці тому +63

    after watching your channel for some time I'm proud to see you guys learning how to play Magic

  • @T4N7
    @T4N7 3 місяці тому +19

    I think the Removal thing is the hardest thing to master out of these cuz at the same time ive seen people not remove a creautre for 3 turns wiating for something more threatening to come n then when they have to remove it the opponent then plays thr creature they were scared of but now their life total is too low to survive til they draw another removal spell. So threat assessment is a huge part of that n knowing the possibilities in the opponent's deck by having a decent grasp of the meta u play in is key. My brain kinda goes to a moment from a game yrs ago. It wasn't about removal spells but was about threat assessment. Was playing a 3 way game with 1 of my brothers n my old roommate. The game previous my brother had finished me with his massivily buffed snakes but he only had combat damage as a win condition n as soon as I was eliminated my roommate realized that the change from 4 copies of Silence for 2 copies of Orim's Chant had opened up a loop with Archeomancer n Venser, the Sojourner where he can lock a single player out of attacking or casting spells. That wasn't the mistake; the mistake was when the next game ended the exact same way.

    • @jacobfife7273
      @jacobfife7273 3 місяці тому +3

      Yeah its a nuanced point that probably shouldn't be taken at face value here. Its definitely something people need to learn (especially in Commander) but there are also cases where using removal earlier is better. For example, if you're playing an aggro game you might want to get rid of a potential blocker so you can get more hits in earlier or to put your opponent on the back foot.

    • @MatthewOstergren
      @MatthewOstergren 3 місяці тому

      @@jacobfife7273 yeah in aggro, and maybe even moreso tempo, you often want to use your removal pretty proactively. You are trading long-term card advantage for keeping your opponent in a bad board state so you can kill them before they take over the game with their more powerful and more expensive cards.

    • @nikolajriedel7048
      @nikolajriedel7048 3 місяці тому

      @@jacobfife7273 thats what red does, really. Get hasters out and remove every viable blocker with spells. you get the facedmg via creatures, they can attack again next turn and if the opponent doesn have anything with 4 toughness they are always one lightning bolt away from death. In tha case the same goes for your opponent, killing your creatures makes totally sense because you know that at a certain point you are dead to random lightning bolt topdecks so preserve your life as much as you can.
      Obviously there is more to it, and even the "spend your mana" depends on sequencing sometimes but hey, on a 1 - 10 scale, sometimes Magic IS a 12 ;)

  • @outputcoupler7819
    @outputcoupler7819 3 місяці тому +46

    Aww, now people are going to stop playing Cut Down on my Spirited Companion because they know not to play removal too early!
    Jokes aside, these are very good beginner tips.

  • @DragoSmash
    @DragoSmash 3 місяці тому +38

    i got another one for the newbies
    Stop playing at sorcery speed
    use your interaction reactively, for example
    if you have a Slippery Bogbonder in your hand:
    You could cast it on your main phase to protect a creature proactively, but your opponent may respond by casting removal to prevent you from protecting it or may save the removal for something else
    or
    You save Slippery Bogbonder to cast it in reaction to your opponent's removal since it has Flash, this way you reactively protect your creature, and your opponent will waste that removal spell

    • @stefansunnick4690
      @stefansunnick4690 3 місяці тому +5

      Yeah. And use your instant speed activated abilities you dont need right atm at the end of your opponents turn if you have the mana. And if it is only to make them nervous, because you have untapped lands.
      Those things are hard to get into new players and I have friends that played hundreds of games and still dont get it. Their consequence is basically to avoid playing blue because it is "confusing" lol.

    • @simonteesdale9752
      @simonteesdale9752 3 місяці тому +5

      The next step is to learn when to do things at sorcery speed anyway to play around things.
      For example, your opponents commander has a whole bunch of auras on it, but they tapped out to kill another player.
      Using your Swords to ploughshares at sorcery speed before they untap means that they don't get to cast a counterspell, or flash in another protection aura.

    • @outputcoupler7819
      @outputcoupler7819 3 місяці тому +4

      @@simonteesdale9752 Yup. Basically you ask yourself "is there any reason to let them untap?"
      If the answer is no, do it sorcery speed. If you aren't going to get punished, the question is now "is there any reason to let them draw a card?"
      If the answer is no, play the card during their upkeep. If the answer is yes, play it later in the turn when it makes sense to (usually at end of turn, but not always).

    • @DragoSmash
      @DragoSmash 3 місяці тому

      @@simonteesdale9752 i think it depends on the situation here
      if you just drew the Swords to Plowshares then yeah, you cast it at sorcery speed to remove the threat
      but if you already had it in your hand, it's better to cast it at end of your opponent's / last-player-before-you's turn so you can have that mana open in your turn

    • @janmelantu7490
      @janmelantu7490 3 місяці тому +2

      I have one for returning players: don’t be afraid to play at sorcery speed. Cast your removal spell while they’re tapped out, while they don’t have any combat tricks. Cast your cantrips to hit your land drops.

  • @DaxRaider
    @DaxRaider 3 місяці тому +9

    The thing most people who start to get good start to make is the forced instant speed . People wanna play stuff always as late as possible as they learned it's good and refuse to play it in their turn. Ignoring stuff like tapped mana can ensure it gets not countered

    • @janmelantu7490
      @janmelantu7490 3 місяці тому

      People who tried removing a creature by giving it -3/-3 after it attacked and got blown out by Rubblebelt Maaka (which gives an *attacking* creature +3/+3) have not forgotten this one

  • @fernandogonzalez6228
    @fernandogonzalez6228 3 місяці тому +29

    i feel like the kenku on turn 4 might be a good play, especially with an untapped artifact land and if archeomander cant get anything too good, with kenku u r making a 3/3 indistructible flying "haster", archeomander is just a 1/2 that gets 1 card back and not a great one on that spot

    • @alecbrookens6230
      @alecbrookens6230 3 місяці тому +5

      Exactly my thought process

    • @vincent-antoinesoucy1872
      @vincent-antoinesoucy1872 3 місяці тому +5

      with ephemerate in grave you have a 5 mana play for next turn any way.

    • @ReyosBlackwood
      @ReyosBlackwood 3 місяці тому

      @@vincent-antoinesoucy1872 Other than the fact he strangely has no white producing lands, yes If he also had the azorius or boros artifact land it would have been a pretty perfect play, since that could flicker the kenku to make two indestructible flying 3/3 land creatures

    • @qwteb
      @qwteb 2 місяці тому

      it doesnt look like a real deck, they just want to show how mana efficiency works

  • @Razomka
    @Razomka 3 місяці тому +8

    Frank Karsten *nods sagely*
    Ah yes, of course.
    Edit:
    Forgot to mention about number 2. I feel like this is much harder to do nowadays because creatures are so insanely strong.
    You remove the Orcish Bowmasters cause its very strong against your current hand... then they drop Sheoldred and you are screwed but you were ultimately between a rock and a hard place.
    This rings out truer in limited cause even a lowly 3 drop scales so hard now...

  • @Audentior_Ito
    @Audentior_Ito 3 місяці тому +33

    One thing that I find so fascinating, about the mana-curve, is that there is this interesting proficiency curve as we learn MTG.
    First, we make the same mistakes as discussed here. But, at least for me, I then got fixated on *always* spending my mana on curve - even if it wasn't optimal (i.e. playing a body into removal or dropping a bomb instead of holding up interaction). Such a wonderfully complex game!

  • @telepaper1
    @telepaper1 3 місяці тому +5

    Love Carl reping Montréal with the St Viateur tshirt

  • @starmanda88
    @starmanda88 3 місяці тому +1

    I appreciate this channel so much. Always a bright light 💡 The accompanying article was great as well. Keep up the great work, always happy to see when you post.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  3 місяці тому +1

      Thank you :) that is really kind of you to say

  • @MrMariaTTVArchive
    @MrMariaTTVArchive 3 місяці тому

    Frank's Article have guided my deck building since i read it leading to many of my decks running efficiently!

  • @MunetsuguTakeno
    @MunetsuguTakeno 3 місяці тому +1

    Great video of course. I remember back in my days where we had mostly vanilla, pain or shock lands it was really hard to mana fix and basics were really sweat (well I couldnt afford mana base or the really cool stuff, not like it chagned) . Today is great how even mono or bicolor can slap so many lands. Having ability to decide between land and something cool is great same for low/high costs split? cards.
    One thing about the example for top 1 mistake. I really like it. Not only it showed that you could win if you waited, but also playing that lighting bolt could backfire since green have a lot of buffs. Even the old good Giant Growth would lose the game there, instead of taking 6 you want to take 3, but ended up taking lethal damage. It warries, but agains green you can reasonably expect combat trick for lethal. Keeping that bolt is much better for avoiding that and potentionally lethal next turn.
    Also overprotecting is an issue (depending on matchup) in many card games I ve played where you can actually block. Magic? Unless its reasonable that its burn range yeah you have advantage if you ultilize your lifepoints. Vanguard? Early damage allows to set up future turns, it can be pretty good (and good math for triggers!). Dragonball? Awakening is great.(I only played beta waiting for digital) and so on. Its different of course in games like gwent(though that was linked ot hand, havnet played in a long while), hearthstone (cant block), pokemons (non-interactive really) and so on.Yu-Gi-Oh? Ehm yeah not like life really matters there nowadays :D, but some of the strongest cards costs a lot of LP and still are very worth it.
    Speaking of overprotecting and life point as resources thats also why Phyrexian mana was so broken. You trade HP for different advantage, Probe? Absolutly amazing sure you might end up playing on 12 hp, but you get info and you play 56 cards. Misstep? You can stop opponent from getting tempo on you even if you go second. Dismember? Insane. Pod? Yeah that needs no explaining. Its just amazing how life can be used.

  • @MatthewOstergren
    @MatthewOstergren 3 місяці тому

    Yeah, these were all things I learned from experience and talking with other players back when I was a pretty active competitive player in my local area. I played draft and standard weekly for a few years and so many of these lessons made me a much better player.

  • @moleculeman27
    @moleculeman27 3 місяці тому

    Superb advice. I think not only using removal too early, doing _anything_ you don't need to do too early is a pitfall.

  • @JJW410
    @JJW410 3 місяці тому

    This was a really great video. If I saw this 5 years ago when I started playing it would've been exceptionally useful.

  • @Bigd2k
    @Bigd2k 3 місяці тому +14

    The biggest thing I learned being a causal player of magic is the only way to learn how to play good is to:
    Play the game continuously
    Mess up horribly playing the game
    Then learn from all your horrible mistakes.
    I won’t outright say this overlooked but so much of this game and making strategies and plans is situational.

  • @lastnamefirstname8655
    @lastnamefirstname8655 3 місяці тому

    thanks cardmarket! very helpful!

  • @user-tp3gn2fg7d
    @user-tp3gn2fg7d 3 місяці тому +1

    A top 5 sideboard strategies video would be quite helpful. I picked up one trick from the previous best of series talking about when you are on the play vs on the draw.

  • @RationalEgoism
    @RationalEgoism 3 місяці тому

    I think I do pretty well at avoiding those mistakes. I have made the mistake of using removal too early, but it was because there was something I really needed to play the next turn. It depends a lot on the deck matchup.

  • @revolutionartiste
    @revolutionartiste 3 місяці тому +2

    Carl with the bagel St-Viateur shirt !!

  • @BaldurtheImpious
    @BaldurtheImpious 3 місяці тому

    This taught me alot, thank you oh wise ones 🙏

  • @jacktorborg9862
    @jacktorborg9862 3 місяці тому

    it's always a good day when cardmarket posts :)

  • @chrispratt3666
    @chrispratt3666 3 місяці тому +1

    The last tip is unofficially known as the "Char you... Oh it's Lightning Helix! OMG!"

  • @elisgillberg9002
    @elisgillberg9002 3 місяці тому +2

    Something i see alot of new players doing is not playing around open mana.
    If your opponent attack with a crature that will just die if you block then they will most likely have a instant.

    • @jacobisbell9388
      @jacobisbell9388 3 місяці тому +3

      This is tricky though since if you don't force them to use the trick they can keep swinging into you and getting damage while advancing their board. Sometimes you have to force them to use it.

  • @sh41
    @sh41 3 місяці тому +3

    Yes, use your removal later, but ALWAYS bolt the bird!

  • @funkymankevx
    @funkymankevx 3 місяці тому

    I love your St-Viateur Bagel shirt 🥯! I have a sweater with the same logo.

  • @Qwenter123
    @Qwenter123 3 місяці тому +1

    1:28 This is why I love Thoralf.

  • @acclrator
    @acclrator 3 місяці тому

    I’ve had that exact Lightning Bolt scenario happen to me a few times on Arena before I learned my lesson.

  • @sk8rdman
    @sk8rdman 3 місяці тому

    I've shared this advice before, but I'll share it again here. It goes along with some of the tips you mentioned in the video.
    Don't play anything until the last available opportunity before you need it.
    For example, you could play a creature during your first main phase, but if that creature doesn't have haste or any other abilities that will be relevant during the combat phase, it will be better to just hold onto the card and play it during the second main phase. This leaves your mana available to play a combat trick or other instant during combat, and even if you don't have any interactive cards, leaving your mana open still might make your opponent think that you have something, and could trick them into making a worse defensive play.
    Likewise, if you do have a combat trick, wait until the opportune time to cast that too. Often it's better to wait until the opponent has already declared blockers in a combat they thought was a good trade for them, and then you turn it in your favor at the last second. Don't reveal anything until the latest possible moment. This gives your opponent fewer opportunities to play around your cards.
    Honestly, I even apply this rule to land drops. If you're going into the mid to late game and you top deck a land, don't play it unless you can foresee yourself needing it in the immediate future. I've won games by tricking my opponent into thinking that the land I'd been holding onto the last few turns was a big removal or other interactive spell, causing them to make some slower sub-optimal plays. Sometimes the threat of interaction is more beneficial than having an extra land on the field.

  • @purplelilypervincle4898
    @purplelilypervincle4898 3 місяці тому

    I adore your videos, I'll try to be more careful in my next games ahah 😂

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  3 місяці тому

      Ahhh we're not here to judge you :) Play as many lands as you want

  • @generalbochii
    @generalbochii 3 місяці тому

    We have a saying in our group and it's "Your life total is also a resource". I often see newer players go to blocks with damage that could just be taken and doubled on the crackback, so in order to double down on not always blocking we always refer to life as a resource.

  • @Luna-wf5ok
    @Luna-wf5ok 3 місяці тому

    Listening to three really talented magic players talk like they started a week ago and read a tips and tricks article is sending me 😂

  • @MrABK108
    @MrABK108 3 місяці тому +1

    If you are playing a multicolor that includes blue, when leaving lands untapped always leave blue mana open, and openly so. Even if you dont have a counter or an answer in hand.

  • @magusofthebargain
    @magusofthebargain 2 місяці тому

    Frank Karsten's articles are great when calculating how much mana you need for multicolor decks, but for a one color manabase I would recommend going all the way back to Geeba/Sligh mana curve for midrange, or you could use these numbers I arrived at through hypergeometric distribution. For a super aggressive 60-card deck, where you want the best chance at an opening hand with exactly 2 lands, play 17 land, and for a control deck where you really want exactly 3 lands in your opening hand, play 26 land. If you are comfortable missing your 3rd land drop half the time, play somewhere between 17 and 26 land. It's important that you have strong 1-drops in an aggro deck, strong 2-drops in a midrange (23-land) monocolor deck, and strong 3 and 4 drops in a control 26 land deck. I advise against playing that 27th land unless you are playing something like Amulet Titan that needs sooooo many lands. For Amulet Titan, you want FOUR land in your starting hand and I recommend playing 34 land. A few pro players have cut a few land and their decklists might be stronger than a 34 land build, but 34 land does give you the best chance at a 4-land opener, so if you're brewing, use my numbers for mono-color decks. For Multicolor decks, Frank Karsten is your guy.

  • @mageius
    @mageius 3 місяці тому +2

    I will argue for being inefficient with mana if the pace of the game or what you believe your opponent might do would allow you to take the advantage. Try to consider if you need to bluff at having a removal/counter/something that's a piece of interaction and you're holding it up.
    Follow up remember it is also worth considering to do the math if deciding to go above 60 cards. As you will be adjusting your ratio of what you might draw. This is very important for the control and midrange style of decks because depending on game plan.

    • @sethstephens4777
      @sethstephens4777 3 місяці тому

      or you know , just don't go above 60 cards.

    • @mageius
      @mageius 3 місяці тому

      @sethstephens4777 I'm just saying based off of percentages. As I know full well you really shouldn't go above 60 cards. However there have been notable examples of players playing 61 or 62 cards in the main that have made it into the top eight of high-level competition. So there is President on that one.

  • @SvviftDeath
    @SvviftDeath 3 місяці тому +3

    This was very informative not just to MTG but any game. Great points and examples for each. #3 especially. The first thing I teach players after they learn the basics is using your life as a resource. You have 20 life, use it to your advantage. You don't need it all at the end of the game. The second thing is what you mentioned as #5. Play to your outs. Know what your deck is capable of and play in a way that you can set up to win. Playing not to lose will sometimes win you games but not nearly as often.

  • @AstoranSolaire
    @AstoranSolaire 3 місяці тому +2

    3:06 I was really hoping for Dark Depths to come up third and for Thoralf to finish this bit off with "...lands that make opponents die".

    • @akorthouwer
      @akorthouwer 3 місяці тому

      it's not really a land tho doesnt tap for mana

  • @ulyssessanchez2328
    @ulyssessanchez2328 3 місяці тому

    Love these hot take!

  • @wormesttheworm
    @wormesttheworm 3 місяці тому

    Nice video, thanks!

  • @EpicWookieLegs
    @EpicWookieLegs 3 місяці тому

    Carl, those Panda socks are FIRE!

  • @AndrewWilson-fb8ge
    @AndrewWilson-fb8ge 2 місяці тому

    I think that last point is usually called "playing to your out/win condition" rather than 'just' surviving.

  • @krimhorn
    @krimhorn 3 місяці тому +1

    One that's related to the last point (how not to lose the game) is to not overthink and put your opponent on an edge that they probabilistically don't have. Especially if their deck is the stronger in the longer game. If you're ahead in the game and you play too conservatively a deck with the better go-long plan will most likely win. If that's your deck, great, you've won. If that's their deck then it's likely that you lose if you play too conservatively. This is related to, but not exactly the same as, the age-old question of "who is the beat-down?".

  • @thingsthatgobomb
    @thingsthatgobomb 3 місяці тому +1

    Everyone, good news! Ive found one of the song names they use in the background. One of them is "Howling at the Moon" by D Fine Us.

  • @stephengrant4912
    @stephengrant4912 3 місяці тому

    That Australian guy in the example video used to teach me to play at the local gamestore. Learned a lot from him

  • @ivanncharron5342
    @ivanncharron5342 3 місяці тому +1

    Come for Carl's St-Viateur Bagel shirt, stay for the awesome content

  • @malik0666
    @malik0666 3 місяці тому

    Nice t-shirt Carl !

  • @SiegfriedDrachentoeter
    @SiegfriedDrachentoeter 3 місяці тому +1

    Another really big one is second main phase. You know you have it, so use it. I see way to many people casting creatures in their first main phase that dont have haste for no real reason. Attack first to potentially bluff that you have a combat trick or some kind of interaction and then cast things in second main. Leave your opponents with as little information as possible.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  3 місяці тому +1

      That's another really important one! 👌 yes I agree

  • @brianmkolins4426
    @brianmkolins4426 3 місяці тому +1

    back in my day... I'd always play 61 card decks... 41 in limited.
    There was the off chance that the opponent is convinced I'm playing 60 (like a sane person... big mistake assuming I'm sane...) they'd do a combo and miss by 1.
    Or I'd deck them another way...
    But I'd do my usual split (back then, what 17/23 in limited, 23/37 in constructed... something like that), and if I was playing a bit lower curve, I'd throw in 1 extra spell I just really wanted... if it was normal or slightly higher, I'd add an extra land...
    The math doesn't change THAT dramatically with 61, or 62 card decks... but it can give, at least that feel, of more evenness... it might all have been in my mind... but... :)

  • @Rasamune
    @Rasamune 3 місяці тому

    6:49 The way I’ve always phrased this is: “If you have a plan to not lose the game, but you don’t have a plan to *win* the game, you will lose the game”

  • @Cliech
    @Cliech 3 місяці тому

    Jamin snap saying 5 at the start is the funniest thing I've seen all day

  • @schumerus6786
    @schumerus6786 3 місяці тому +1

    Rule of thumb: Have 24 lands you wanna play as lands, then add any supplementary you may wanna channel, animate via man-land abilities, or tap to do whatever. So yeah, you would go up to probably 27-28 for control as the man lands are kind of win cons. At least that’s how I do it.

    • @czPetres
      @czPetres 3 місяці тому

      I play on Arena, so going for 30 lands + mana dorks is usually the way there.

  • @indecision6326
    @indecision6326 3 місяці тому

    Once upon a time (back in '13 or '14, when I was getting into the game in earnest), I built a (60-card) Rakdos deck that was all about removal and burn spells. It didn't use creatures all that much because except ones that were beneficial to that central style. In hindsight, I'm surprised it won so many games even against opponents who were about as experienced as I was.

  • @the_fat_wizard
    @the_fat_wizard 3 місяці тому

    A massive one imo, especially in paper magic, is mulligans. I feel players in general don't mulligan enough and end up struggling. Yes, the very thought of starting a game with less cards feels really bad since card advantage is always good, but five good cards is better than seven bad cards.

  • @syntos995
    @syntos995 3 місяці тому

    My Pioneer Tournament-Deck has 18 Lands and I still sometimes draw to many. The Amount of Lands is totally up to the cost of your spells.

  • @CorbyCrafts
    @CorbyCrafts 3 місяці тому

    I remember a game of commander where I had a necropotencr and dark confidant style card out, and I necro'd myself to 1 life above the highest CMC i had in my deck. An opponent said "you have necro, just go all the way" and I told them why I wasn't doing that. My turn comes, my flip was the card with the highest CMC. 1 life, and I proceeded to win. One of my all time favorite moments

  • @Ricardo-zo1ti
    @Ricardo-zo1ti 3 місяці тому +1

    Kenku wasn't the best example (you want the land untapped because it will become a creature), but overall good video!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah we just tried to make examples with the pauper decks we already had at the table. If we could have used any card, we would have made the examples more optimal :)

  • @rossthrasher3167
    @rossthrasher3167 3 місяці тому +1

    idk, playing archeomancer t5 to have 1 mana up to ephemerate seemed like a pretty good line too

  • @Renuzithatesyou
    @Renuzithatesyou 3 місяці тому

    There's one mistake I see often that wasn't covered here. which is hold your cards until you get max value sometimes you need to cast your wraith as a 1 for 1 instead of an x for 1.

  • @ElonErbel
    @ElonErbel 3 місяці тому +1

    I used to always play my creatures before combat, but now I will always play them after unless they have "At the start of combat" because it could allow an opponent to let damage though thinking they are going to attack next turn.

    • @jacobisbell9388
      @jacobisbell9388 3 місяці тому

      I agree with you but there's a problem, most good creatures these days have an immediate impact on the board so you want to play them.

  • @robertomacetti7069
    @robertomacetti7069 3 місяці тому +1

    Stacking your deck
    Got it

  • @User_N8
    @User_N8 Місяць тому

    One beginner mistake I see very often is playing creatures, when you already have a good board state. Just makes the board wipes hurt more. Though I am not sure if this is a thing in competetive magic as much as in kitchen table and/or commander games

  • @jacktchance
    @jacktchance 3 місяці тому

    Years of lessons learned by getting my ass kicked at my LGS, condensed into a 10 minute video. Bravo!

  • @Tarojun_Zakra
    @Tarojun_Zakra 3 місяці тому

    Long ago when started playing this game back in school, I developed a notorious reputation of always having a Dark Banishing at the worse possible timing for my opponents. It became a very reliable bluff to leave 3 mana open even when I didn't have it, and then top decked into it when they felt they played too safely and start going on the hard offence.
    At least did figure out a well timed removal is worth so much more than removal for sake of removal, a skill I transferred over from old school YuGiOh where I was smashing everyone at school, only to get my ass beat in MTG which was more fun figuring out new stuff and how precious using limited resources per turn is.

  • @KatastOrfeas
    @KatastOrfeas 3 місяці тому

    There are 2 more mistakes I would like to mention.
    1. Stop playing your instants at sorcery speed. Even if you are planning on using them either way holding them for a bit is better because then your opponent has to expect and play around more things, BUT don't take this too far, if you absolutely have to do something then waiting for their turn when they will have untapped their lands and potentially have a protection spell/counter spell is wrong, in that case just use it on your turn.
    2. Stop keeping bad hands, often times players just see 3-4 lands and instantly keep but before you do that think about what that hand accomplices, even if its a good hand if its slow and your opponent is playing aggro for example then you are bassicaly throwing away the game.

  • @nthnthms1212
    @nthnthms1212 3 місяці тому +89

    Being mana efficient is definitely situational. In a lot of cases, it will be better to be mana inefficient.

    • @josefranciscoalvarezmedina181
      @josefranciscoalvarezmedina181 3 місяці тому +51

      It's better to think the other way around, being inefficient can sometimes save you in certain situations, but most of the time you want to be efficient.

    • @poiri
      @poiri 3 місяці тому +4

      Like in the exact situation they showed it would have been mana efficient (in a sense) to play the Kenku Artificer since immediately attacking with the artifact land is basically like spending that mana, the land ends up tapped after all.

    • @anihopkins6788
      @anihopkins6788 3 місяці тому +7

      A different way of looking at it is - mana efficiency is not *just* about what you play on your turn. If you’re playing mono blue control, it’s likely you shouldn’t spend all your mana on your turn because you’ll probably have stuff to do on the other player’s turn. So you’re still being mana efficient by leaving some open at your end step, because you have stuff to do before your next turn.

    • @lerbyn
      @lerbyn 3 місяці тому

      Exactly, archaeomancer with nothing in the grave for example would have been a bad play

    • @matthewdigiordano1476
      @matthewdigiordano1476 3 місяці тому +13

      Check the title of the video, all of these concepts they are describing are geared towards new players and are broad generalizations. They are not trying to illustrate the intricacies of specific cards, situations and when it's okay to not use all of your mana. All of that is beyond the scope of what this concept is trying to illustrate.

  • @ReyosBlackwood
    @ReyosBlackwood 3 місяці тому

    1:17 this was a bad example because of what the cards were, and what the board state is. Because the card in his graveyard was Ephemerate, playing the 3 drop turn 4 lets him play archaeomancer turn 5, keeping up one mana (something that makes white which he strangely doesn't have) to make use of the Ephemerate it returned, spending all 5 mana in that round - slightly less mana efficient but it might be the stronger play depending on the matchup. On top of that Kenku Artificer makes other use of that 4th mana, since it's one of the indestructible artifact lands, it becomes a 3/3 flying attacker or an indestructible blocker for that myr enforcer.

  • @videopolymers
    @videopolymers 3 місяці тому

    Carl casually wearing a shirt from my workplace across the globe caught me off guard lol

  • @benjamincortina7755
    @benjamincortina7755 3 місяці тому

    I hope you can make a series out of this, how to play MtG better? Thank you gents.

  • @Durngor
    @Durngor 3 місяці тому

    Another mistake I make is attacking with creatures, when my opponent can ust not block and hit me for/close to lethal in his turn. I do this too often, mostly when i was struggling against e.g. flyers and think I can finaly get some damage in

  • @ozzysmith2571
    @ozzysmith2571 3 місяці тому

    People always meme on the "Oh this is how I could've won in a turn or 2" people when they lose (and to be fair, there's plenty of people that do this just to be salty) but it was honestly a great way in my community for us to learn lines of play, learn more about interactions, rethink strategies, etc.
    To this day, when I play roommate's, we always look a card or 2 ahead to see what was coming up and have a 2 minute talk about the hypotheticals. It's helped a lot and been a good bonding method.

  • @jacobisbell9388
    @jacobisbell9388 3 місяці тому

    One mistake I see people make, related to the first one of mana efficiency, it doesn't matter how many cards you draw if you can't play them all. So for example when someone has Elder Gargoth they usually draw a card with it, but I don't want to draw another card I can't play, I want a 0 mana 3/3

  • @kaalesrex2933
    @kaalesrex2933 3 місяці тому +1

    Even now after literaly decades of playing I sometimes bolt a creature when I should have bolted face.. my excuse however is, I play a lot of high-powered formats so when I would go down to

    • @kaalesrex2933
      @kaalesrex2933 3 місяці тому

      just fyi both times in a RDW timeless deck and both times I only had 2 bolts left in the deck and only 1 other 3 dmg direct to player I could have cast .. insanely lucky both times but it was a panic reaction and I should have played to my outs

  • @CilantroGamer
    @CilantroGamer 3 місяці тому

    Back when I started in the 90s and after I'd finally learned the game well, the most common beginner mistake I ran into was people not attacking. Like, even on an open board. When I first got to college and met the local game group there I remember playing against someone who was playing some sort of mono-red Goblin deck. They dropped a goblin first turn, passed, then on their second turn they dropped another, and passed. I even asked them directly, why didn't you attack? And their reasoning was that it was 'just a 1/1'

  • @TheDehelle
    @TheDehelle 3 місяці тому

    Frank Carsten feels present even when he isn't. You should hire him asap

  • @LyubenV
    @LyubenV 3 місяці тому

    I'm a new player, and maybe its the boomer spirit on me but, I'm finding dual or even more decks to be quite annoying. I was playing online and I had 5 blue cards in hand, with 4 plains as my lands and I just would not draw an island to save my life. Conversely, I waited 3 turns longer than optimal for a board wipe because my 2nd plains just wouldn't arrive.
    Going mono colour, while probably less competitive, is probably more fun for me I reckon.

    • @jacobisbell9388
      @jacobisbell9388 3 місяці тому +1

      So what you're probably missing is better lands. If you had lands that produce white OR blue this wouldn't be an issue. A competitive deck you'll barely see any basics

  • @garrettneary3755
    @garrettneary3755 3 місяці тому

    Glad to see Carl was having a good hair day during this shoot

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  3 місяці тому

      Haha I thought this was a bad hair day actually 😅

    • @garrettneary3755
      @garrettneary3755 3 місяці тому

      The comment was definitely sarcastic

  • @AbstractMarcher
    @AbstractMarcher 3 місяці тому +1

    1. Great video.
    2. Is Jamin ok? Noticed his hair looking patchy.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  3 місяці тому +1

      He's OK :) he's always had Alopecia. He's rocking it in my opinion

    • @AbstractMarcher
      @AbstractMarcher 3 місяці тому

      @@CardmarketMagic Ah ok! I just wanted to be safe and check. I understand that condition can be tricky for most people. He definitely is! Nothing stopping Jamin

  • @catfactsuk
    @catfactsuk 3 місяці тому +1

    Carl does the thumbnail keep changing or am I going insane? I swear this is the third thumbnail ive seen for this video.

  • @MrABK108
    @MrABK108 3 місяці тому +1

    Real beginner mistake: playing all your stuff on the first main phase, then attacking all tapped out.
    If it isn't necessary for the attack, just wait for the second main phase!

  • @LucRio448
    @LucRio448 2 місяці тому

    With the not blocking there is an issue though. First of all, I already invested mana, and it's already gone either way. The danger is, falling into sunk cost fallacy: I already invested mana into getting this thing on the board, if I block now I lose it, rather lose 4 life so the mana wasn't wasted - regardless of if that one creature is actually important or not. Not because mana would be more important (which btw isn't an argument there - unless that creature GENERATES mana for you, you'll have the same amount of mana available your next turn regardless of blocking or not blocking) than life, but because you already invested ressources so you now wanna invest even more ressources to make sure the initial cost wasn't "wasted", and suddenly that 2 mana creature actually did cost you 4 mana and 5 life over 2 turns instead but hey, the initial 2 mana weren't wasted... right?

  • @arthurlavoie5201
    @arthurlavoie5201 3 місяці тому

    Shout out to Carl’s St-Viateur t-shirt. Montréal represents !

  • @ObodreI
    @ObodreI 3 місяці тому +1

    I've seen 3 different thumbnail for this video so far ^^

  • @mikotagayuna8494
    @mikotagayuna8494 3 місяці тому +1

    6. Don't just jump into spending a lot of money into MtG. State your motivations of you going into this hobby when there are so many other gaming options out there. Do you aspire to be a tournament grinder, want to express your personality or just want a fun night with friends? It is perfectly okay to play with just the cards you own when there are no stakes. Maybe you'll move on from MtG one day or maybe you won't. Either way, make sure you do it in your terms and not some greedy company's call.

  • @TheGoldenHorncall
    @TheGoldenHorncall 3 місяці тому

    The subliminal Frank Karsten messaging is perfect

  • @Oxygen1004
    @Oxygen1004 3 місяці тому

    Imo the first example wasn't good, the Kenku would have still "used" the mana that turn to make a 3/3 indestructible flyer (As you'd be attacking with the land most of the time) and just playing the archaeomancer just leaves it open to removal and doesn't put nearly as much board presence onto the field. It could have been used to show exceptions in the rule but alas.

  • @duriasgiles1214
    @duriasgiles1214 3 місяці тому

    I think the kenku example wasn't the best because having a 3/3 flying haste Indestructible beater in pauper might be the better play

  • @HighLanderPonyYT
    @HighLanderPonyYT 3 місяці тому

    Short version: plan ahead, know the turn structure, understand tempo and beatdown vs control. Even just these few will get you far.

    • @HighLanderPonyYT
      @HighLanderPonyYT 3 місяці тому

      Also, understand the turn "timer". Eg. vs a 10/X creature, you're on a 2-turn timer.
      Sometimes committing resources isn't worth it because it won't affect the turn timer.

    • @HighLanderPonyYT
      @HighLanderPonyYT 3 місяці тому

      And the last one they mentioned is what we like to call "play to win vs playing not to lose".

    • @HighLanderPonyYT
      @HighLanderPonyYT 3 місяці тому

      But there's also playing to your outs but you need to know the decks to apply that.
      They mentioned that at the very end.

    • @HighLanderPonyYT
      @HighLanderPonyYT 3 місяці тому

      Another: attack more, block more. It's using your creatures, even if they die to a combat trick of something, that's one fewer trick you'll need to worry about later or one trick that didn't go to your face. Exceptions apply but newbies often are too afraid to attack or block because they'd lose creatures and create an unnecessary board stall.

  • @rinan5317
    @rinan5317 3 місяці тому

    Another common mistake is increasing the number of cards in the deck just to include a card. 60 is quite the optimal number to keep except if the meta is full of mill.

  • @benturtl9076
    @benturtl9076 3 місяці тому

    Reminds me of when I got a few of my friends into magic. So we had a game with me and my brother (experienced palyers) and 2 of the new friends. My brother attacked one of them with with a golgari thug. She cast a beast within on it even though she could've just blocked it to kill it without even losing a creature. Also he judt wants it in the gy anyway. She was at 30 something life btw. Somwtimes the mind of a new player confuses me to death

  • @xboxgamer474246
    @xboxgamer474246 3 місяці тому

    …yeah but when you tap out to play Archaeomancer over Kenku Artificer you can’t turn your Razortide Bridge into an indestructible flier to block with this turn, which means taking the 4 from Endorcer or chumping with Kenku and losing an Ephemerate target later.
    I think it’s better to play Kenku, block Enforcer, then play Archaeomancer the turn after so you can blink Kenku and turn the bridge into a 6/6 or 9/9 for future turns.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  3 місяці тому +1

      We just used a random example with the cards we already had at the table :) it was just for effect. If we could summon cards into thin air we would use a more accurate example

  • @salucmoa669
    @salucmoa669 3 місяці тому +1

    half of my decks are lands and I'm always mana stuck!!

  • @jonboeck4467
    @jonboeck4467 3 місяці тому +2

    Yeah a lot of the stuff they're talking about is currently feels really flat and one noted, a lot of these things about like learning when to block or when to take damage and using your kill spells or mana efficiently... It's very situational and the key thing about becoming a better magic player is learning when to press the gas and when to hold the brake.

    • @jonboeck4467
      @jonboeck4467 3 місяці тому +1

      I can't tell you how many games that I've won because people have refused to block and I got so much value out of creatures just running in for damage and the opponent just wanting to protect their board state rather than their life. Most people and a lot of times especially free for all, people end up having a powerful bored state but only have like two or three life left and not having the ability to protect themselves and just lose it.

    • @rapidLupine7687
      @rapidLupine7687 3 місяці тому

      Yeah I understand what they mean about not useless blocking, but I think that subject is much more complicated, for example there are quite a lot of decks in magic that do benefit from blocking and dying creatures, combo decks that need to gain time, decks with interaction when a creature dies or with the graveyard, decks that depend on battle trigger abilities (such as lifelink).
      I'm also much more accustomed in seeing newer players not blocking when they should, than blocking what they shouldn't. (Such as when their creature has more toughness and the opponent has no untapped mana) I feel like most beginners are more afraid of losing their creatures than they're of life points. And this makes some sense, you need to pay to cast creatures meanwhile your life points come free.

  • @martinfelber4647
    @martinfelber4647 3 місяці тому

    "Apropro removal spell"😂 as a fellow german i loved this random german phrase. For all you non german speaker apropo means "while we are talking about ..."

    • @Something_Sharp
      @Something_Sharp 3 місяці тому +1

      Sorry to burst your bubble, but apropros is used in English too - and it actually came from French

  • @xChikyx
    @xChikyx 3 місяці тому

    34 lands in commander is my sweet spot