I really enjoy how you relate to an average thrower. Shorter content is much more digestible. Thanks for the tips. Trying to move my release point from 11, to 10.
Thank you, I definitely like simple and easy to grasp. Some videos I’ve watched to get better I just got confused 😐, your welcome for tips just wanna help people on what I’m figuring out myself :)
Zactly.. He's been playing for years, but like Isaac Asimov quoted (and I'm sure many before).. "your never too old to learn" (SIC). And as a "Hey let's try this" approach he let's us try things that may work for us, maybe not... go give it a try... don't just take the experts word as often even they can't explain what they do in a way that relates.. A good example... for me... a slight dyslexic that has a 'Unique' way of envisioning things that often ends in me coming up with solutions others missed... (I can often misconstrue what is being said... often getting the "other" meaning of anything that can be taken 2 ways....) I was "taught" to ski corners with "Push your toes down and into the turn" and just couldn't get it... until "eureka".. its the exact same thing if you "Lift your heels and turn them away from the corner". The result is the exact same thing, but explained almost opposite. (Same with mountain bike dropoffs, pushing yourself backward over the rear wheel, turns out to be the exact same action as push the bike out in front of you... DM often comes up with some of these alternates in "trying" things. (Man I talk too much)
This is the realisation I came to recently. Consciously lifting my elbow has helped my form tremendously, improving both snap and accuracy. Thanks validating the importance of this element, and for sharing your insights with others.
Welcome 🤗 anytime I find out little things that help me out along the way I definitely wanna share them. It is funny going back and watching my older videos because I’ve come along way. Thanks for watching and commenting. It’s nice other have seen same/similar results
For whatever it's worth, I finally I got 260 feet today on a drive with a 8 speed disc (witness?) (275 if you count my roller, but I would rather consider a regular rhbh. I was at the edge of C1 putting into a 282 foot hole. I'll consider that a success. That's at least an additional 20-30 feet in distance than I've ever done. It's weird, but for some reason that shot it just felt like my timing and everything felt much better than normal and nothing even hurt after the shot. That's very bad distance still for most people, but I have so many problems with my throws. After that of course I started trying to throw even further which paradoxically enough, broke down my form and I actually got less distance from trying to force power, not to mention my shoulder felt sore for an hour. So, yeah. Lessons from my success today, form/timing over trying to force it. I'll try elbow spacing. Because I do think that's one thing that I've got to figure out. How the disc golf throw is almost a two step process.
That’s awesome to hear you got the disc out further than you have before, but I run into the same thing when I try to muscle the disc, it’s a weird thing when some of my furthest throws seem easy and smooth. it’s the feeling you are describing. Just hard to pin point the exact thing you did to give it that different feel without seeing form. I hope the elbow tip helps you out and it maybe the thing that is needed. Good luck out here and keep up the work to pin point what you need to do.
Tip. Never release your disc. Pinch it let it hurt your finger when it rips from your hand. The elbow first technique will not help if you just let go of the disc remember all that work your doing leads up to the smallest point of your throw! Thats the point where that energy enters your disc. Keep your self compact. Its compact explosion that generates most “SPIN”!
Also learn with understable discs. Release with a little hyzer angle. That angle of release will generate more spin more consistently. Also a hyzer flip is the most satisfying and most distance you can throw. On top of that its a great way to recognize your increase in arm speed. As your discs begin to burn over you know its time to step up in speed or stability. Good luck throw bombs and practice all the time!
Ya honestly the harder you try to throw the worse your shots going to be because you are going to throw more inconsistencies into your shot. just slow down everything and throw smooth. get the new ricky wysocki vandal and throw smooth you'll hit 320 easily
@@finklesteenDK420 To be fair, that's one thing that I noticed. My fingers slightly hurt upon release. So, I think that shot might've been working better.
This was my problem for 20 years before I realized that I have my elbow too low. Took awhile to learn it and it's still work in progress. Old habits die hard. But it was worth changing. Slingshot is happening much better now and I got new all time record with distance since learning this, alongside with grip which needed to be much tighter.
It’s crazy that subtle changes make such a big difference. Super cool to hear that you got a all time distance record for yourself. Always a good feeling
I used to throw good ol straight arm Frisbee's so had to UA-cam a lot before even starting Disc Golf... I found my best long shots I also don't look at the target once reaching back until the disk has long since left my hand... Once I know where it's going theres no need to look if the throw is right.
Yes.. I'm just a little bit jealous to those pros who just naturally got everything right from the start.. we mortals have to learn bit by bit and it takes time since it seems nobody actually knows all the little things which make up the perfect technique. Some just can do it naturally and the rest just have to learn by trial and error.. and through videos like yours, which help a lot!@@DiscManiac28
One thing you can do to help with spacing is to focus on pushing your right shoulder (left for lefties) forward as you throw, helps keep it up and away from your body.
Another interesting video!! I just shot 2 pbs today! First time ever shooting under par!!! Usually I just do the 9 hole on the local layout. I then did the local comp set up of 18 holes! With longer holes on the back 9! & finished 2 under par! Just getting good info from these videos has been good. I feel I'm gonna practice practice practice for the next few weeks and see how I feel about doing the monthly local comp. Will be heading out tomorrow after work...will be asleep soon then before i know it, I'll be practicing!!!
That’s awesome you are shooting under par, I’m glad the info seems to help, good luck on monthly local comp….well it’s not really luck if you put the practice in lol…. Anyways wish ya the best out there
Sometimes to wrap my mind around a concept I try to think of it in extremes: What if I was pulling through at my hip? You have to accelerate the disc in a straight line. You have less distance down lower to make a straight line with your HAND. Across the middle of your chest is better, but pulling through at the height of your shoulder socket gives you the maximum straight line distance to accelerate the disc, therefore much more mechanical advantage. 0-65mph over 7 feet requires less energy than 0-65mph over 5 feet. Another thing that you're not picking up on is the disc should be held on a plane that points to your shoulder (the center of the hinge point of the throw) This will release the disc flat to the throwing plane reducing momentum lost to any wobble. I see in your form you are holding it downward facing you but when you throw you straighten it out level with your shoulder. Changing that angle mid throw could introduce wobble. Watching Kristin Tattar's form helped me improve my distance and accuracy. She has her other hand on the disc intentionally holding it up at shoulder height establishing her THROWING PLANE
Now that I say that I’ll have to go watch my form and hers to compare, I get what your saying and it make slot of sense. Thanks for pointing that out so I can practice and see what I think 👍
Helped me realize a problem I have! Never knew my elbow was too low. Also the aiming with elbow seems mind blowing! Let's hope it helps poor old me haha
@@DiscManiac28 I was just sitting here watching and I thought, “Is he saying pull to the chest, not past it?” Gave it a shot and my fingers were on fire! Hardest snap I have ever generated!
Hey DM. Since your into experimenting with a few styles (which is excellent... so many Toobers just stick to what they do (which is fine) but you sometimes answer unasked questions from viewers by trying something they do, and giving an opinion on the result....) uhhh where wuz i.. Oh yeah... So a lot of people like ME... started back in the 70's just throwing the good ol Name brand... Frisbee (and all it's knockoffs)... ... and we fairly all learned to throw straight arm Hyzers... I still have this in my bag... and it is actually a great tool (tho I now use the trebuchet action to go way further... BUT... I have a technique (I guess it's the oldest method but seems forgotten) of getting round big obstacles like trees, where I can see the basket but there's no straight line... I can face the target on say a 45deg open stance, look directly at the target (not removing my stare), straight arm 30-45deg (hip height) away to the right (ok back arm right handed here)... I use an over stable low hover disk (my scorch works well)... and my brain does the distance calculation... basically its a big smooth arc, so as long as the disc leaves somewhere in front of me (probably near pointing at the target) the dish almost always lands on a direct line passing through me and the target... and if I get the distance right... nearly smack on the target... As its a right arm back hand, it's spinning backward so near stops where it lands.... wind pushes it left/right so I drop the angle in high winds, raise in low So having explained the heck out of it... basically If I stand and point my right arm about 45deg to the right of the target then throw a 30deg straight arm Hyzer on a smooth curve... all I really need to think about is the power as it almost always lands in line with the basket and stops... I can use the same on a 45 Anhyzer but the disks usually fades back before making the ground (I think I need to try my (ohhh so straight) Superhero (Trilogy Challenge 20') as it may not fade out as bad... ). The thing with this shot... it works from about 30ft to about 200 for me.. and up/down hills if my brain gets the angle right tipping forward or back to match the terrain.. but I usually come up short on steep hills... hope that made sense.
Yes, All made since.. had to read a few times and I believe I got it. I haven’t tried a straight arm hyzer but it’s something I’m gonna have to try out. Sounds like a good tool to have in bag for certain situations, thanks for tip
@@DiscManiac28 I think the difference is in the open stance and stare at the target... You can use a whip or straight arm, but it's a stand still (sort of forgot to say... stand still) quick shot... Maybe it's my years of throwing hyzers to my friends, standing looking at them, and landing them at their feet or catch.. Oh and the BIGGEST thing I found to help new players.. Go to a field... with a FRIEND... no wind... face each other and throw the same 1-2 disks back and forth.. (once they get good you can attempt to catch the disks (I can quite well, just don't use an ankle/shin) 😞 the thing with this is... they can throw the same disk... a hundred times... and only have to walk .. well as far as the other person is bad... It also seems easier to throw a disk to a person than a basket... I think if they thought about the basket as a person that you wanted to catch the disk .. they may get better... I did.
@@TheButlerNZ that’s great info, I like it cause when I go to field the least favorite part is going to retrieve all discs I’ve just thrown, so that would be great to do
@@DiscManiac28 Once I was catching the discs my mate improved quite quickly and I was walking 10-20ft on 200ft throws (Just inside the length of a Rugby field (100m, 330 ft)... What's more... he started sending the odd new disk... and I could pick it up... look at the numbers... and send it back fairly accurately (even swapping stable/under stable on me...) course there's always that unstable hyzered into a breeze that flips up and heads off sideways for the car park.
Reminds me of walking in town where (In New Zealand) polite people 'walk like you drive' on the left... but there's always an Eddie (My term... people behaving like a back-eddie) walking up the wrong side... Neat trick... If you hate Eddies.... Walk on the (OK Right side in US)... and as an Eddie approaches on the wrong side.. going against the flow... look to the right (like your window shopping)... The almost always get out of your way... and if they continue (you can see them in your peripheral quite well...) Just STOP..... Only an idiot wants to walk into someone stopped looking into a shop window (of course I've still had a couple try)... I have actually used this on lets say "lowlifes" and they still usually move out of my way rather than walk into me just because I'm walking with my head looking sideways.. And I'm not what you would call 'of significant stature' . q8)
im super new only gone out and played like 8 times so far but im addicted to it. Just wish my back hand was better my front hand easy just cant hit the pocket with back hand.
It can be hard at first to know what to work on. It’s easy to get addicted. I know I am. When you say I want to get better at my backhand…. R u talking about accuracy, distance or both?
I have noticed pro's doing that and especially Konner from Foundation leading with his elbow. I thought maybe it was him thing. I want to try this and see if it helps my form. I still can't xstep and throw accurately. I just can't get the footwork and timing down. Obviously, you record yourself for content but do you record yourself to check your form or did you in the beginning?
I absolutely recorded myself and still do to change little things once at a time. I try and focus on the one thing I notice and stay with it until I see it’s improving
can't x-step.... apart from trying stand still (which I guess you do... and as DM experimented with... balance on your rear leg for the stand still... Try a little crow hop... the timing for an x-step seems to be 1.. 2.. 3.. where a crow step is more 12... 3 It also seems to help stay on the Tee rather than using the full length or even having to start off the Tee. (for me)
@@Big_C_Here I'm too inconsistent to be a lot of help.. but one thing I see over and over again... Slow down and throw a mid/putter... and get the methods right at a slower pace... I just keep throwing hard so hit a wall at 330ft... and keep forgetting to 'go back to school'
@@DiscManiac28 how do you do that when it’s constantly in motion? I will say I have a problem with over rotation and will miss right generally when I miss
@@patrickflanigan951 that’s what I do also, it’s my main miss. ( to the right). it’s at the point when you pull elbow through I just try to point it in that direction, lol not sure how to explain it through message. It’s hard to explain
@@DiscManiac28 yeas exactly. Nearly impossible. So the whole breaking the glass thing is basically the same thing. Not sure that it is particularly helpful but what I find interesting is how Simon almost never raises his elbow especially on approach shots. It’s almost straight down and this forearm is almost 90 degrees to his bicep.
@@patrickflanigan951 yea I just went and watched some of him throwing and his torso is bent over at an angle and it appears his elbow is down lower but when he bends over his elbow is still out to create the “space” for power pocket, he has so much power. On approach shots it maybe different I haven’t watched them but because he doesn’t need so much power it maybe lower
I really enjoy how you relate to an average thrower. Shorter content is much more digestible. Thanks for the tips. Trying to move my release point from 11, to 10.
Thank you, I definitely like simple and easy to grasp. Some videos I’ve watched to get better I just got confused 😐, your welcome for tips just wanna help people on what I’m figuring out myself :)
Zactly.. He's been playing for years, but like Isaac Asimov quoted (and I'm sure many before).. "your never too old to learn" (SIC).
And as a "Hey let's try this" approach he let's us try things that may work for us, maybe not... go give it a try... don't just take the experts word as often even they can't explain what they do in a way that relates..
A good example... for me... a slight dyslexic that has a 'Unique' way of envisioning things that often ends in me coming up with solutions others missed... (I can often misconstrue what is being said... often getting the "other" meaning of anything that can be taken 2 ways....)
I was "taught" to ski corners with "Push your toes down and into the turn" and just couldn't get it...
until "eureka".. its the exact same thing if you "Lift your heels and turn them away from the corner".
The result is the exact same thing, but explained almost opposite. (Same with mountain bike dropoffs, pushing yourself backward over the rear wheel, turns out to be the exact same action as push the bike out in front of you...
DM often comes up with some of these alternates in "trying" things.
(Man I talk too much)
This is the realisation I came to recently. Consciously lifting my elbow has helped my form tremendously, improving both snap and accuracy. Thanks validating the importance of this element, and for sharing your insights with others.
Welcome 🤗 anytime I find out little things that help me out along the way I definitely wanna share them. It is funny going back and watching my older videos because I’ve come along way. Thanks for watching and commenting. It’s nice other have seen same/similar results
For whatever it's worth, I finally I got 260 feet today on a drive with a 8 speed disc (witness?) (275 if you count my roller, but I would rather consider a regular rhbh. I was at the edge of C1 putting into a 282 foot hole. I'll consider that a success. That's at least an additional 20-30 feet in distance than I've ever done. It's weird, but for some reason that shot it just felt like my timing and everything felt much better than normal and nothing even hurt after the shot. That's very bad distance still for most people, but I have so many problems with my throws. After that of course I started trying to throw even further which paradoxically enough, broke down my form and I actually got less distance from trying to force power, not to mention my shoulder felt sore for an hour. So, yeah. Lessons from my success today, form/timing over trying to force it. I'll try elbow spacing. Because I do think that's one thing that I've got to figure out. How the disc golf throw is almost a two step process.
That’s awesome to hear you got the disc out further than you have before, but I run into the same thing when I try to muscle the disc, it’s a weird thing when some of my furthest throws seem easy and smooth. it’s the feeling you are describing. Just hard to pin point the exact thing you did to give it that different feel without seeing form. I hope the elbow tip helps you out and it maybe the thing that is needed. Good luck out here and keep up the work to pin point what you need to do.
Tip. Never release your disc. Pinch it let it hurt your finger when it rips from your hand. The elbow first technique will not help if you just let go of the disc remember all that work your doing leads up to the smallest point of your throw! Thats the point where that energy enters your disc. Keep your self compact. Its compact explosion that generates most “SPIN”!
Also learn with understable discs. Release with a little hyzer angle. That angle of release will generate more spin more consistently. Also a hyzer flip is the most satisfying and most distance you can throw. On top of that its a great way to recognize your increase in arm speed. As your discs begin to burn over you know its time to step up in speed or stability. Good luck throw bombs and practice all the time!
Ya honestly the harder you try to throw the worse your shots going to be because you are going to throw more inconsistencies into your shot. just slow down everything and throw smooth. get the new ricky wysocki vandal and throw smooth you'll hit 320 easily
@@finklesteenDK420 To be fair, that's one thing that I noticed. My fingers slightly hurt upon release. So, I think that shot might've been working better.
This was my problem for 20 years before I realized that I have my elbow too low.
Took awhile to learn it and it's still work in progress. Old habits die hard.
But it was worth changing. Slingshot is happening much better now and I got new all time record with distance since learning this, alongside with grip which needed to be much tighter.
It’s crazy that subtle changes make such a big difference. Super cool to hear that you got a all time distance record for yourself. Always a good feeling
I used to throw good ol straight arm Frisbee's so had to UA-cam a lot before even starting Disc Golf... I found my best long shots I also don't look at the target once reaching back until the disk has long since left my hand... Once I know where it's going theres no need to look if the throw is right.
Yes.. I'm just a little bit jealous to those pros who just naturally got everything right from the start.. we mortals have to learn bit by bit and it takes time since it seems nobody actually knows all the little things which make up the perfect technique. Some just can do it naturally and the rest just have to learn by trial and error.. and through videos like yours, which help a lot!@@DiscManiac28
Just wanted to post I'm really enjoying your videos. Feel like a buddy that's figuring stuff out trying to spread the word to his buds! Keep it up.
Thank ya man
Thank you for showing this! I think this will be the fix for my backhand! Stoked to work on keeping my arm parallel and aiming with my elbow!
Let me know how it goes :)
One thing you can do to help with spacing is to focus on pushing your right shoulder (left for lefties) forward as you throw, helps keep it up and away from your body.
Another interesting video!! I just shot 2 pbs today! First time ever shooting under par!!! Usually I just do the 9 hole on the local layout. I then did the local comp set up of 18 holes! With longer holes on the back 9! & finished 2 under par!
Just getting good info from these videos has been good. I feel I'm gonna practice practice practice for the next few weeks and see how I feel about doing the monthly local comp. Will be heading out tomorrow after work...will be asleep soon then before i know it, I'll be practicing!!!
That’s awesome you are shooting under par, I’m glad the info seems to help, good luck on monthly local comp….well it’s not really luck if you put the practice in lol…. Anyways wish ya the best out there
Sometimes to wrap my mind around a concept I try to think of it in extremes: What if I was pulling through at my hip? You have to accelerate the disc in a straight line. You have less distance down lower to make a straight line with your HAND. Across the middle of your chest is better, but pulling through at the height of your shoulder socket gives you the maximum straight line distance to accelerate the disc, therefore much more mechanical advantage. 0-65mph over 7 feet requires less energy than 0-65mph over 5 feet. Another thing that you're not picking up on is the disc should be held on a plane that points to your shoulder (the center of the hinge point of the throw) This will release the disc flat to the throwing plane reducing momentum lost to any wobble.
I see in your form you are holding it downward facing you but when you throw you straighten it out level with your shoulder. Changing that angle mid throw could introduce wobble.
Watching Kristin Tattar's form helped me improve my distance and accuracy. She has her other hand on the disc intentionally holding it up at shoulder height establishing her THROWING PLANE
Now that I say that I’ll have to go watch my form and hers to compare, I get what your saying and it make slot of sense. Thanks for pointing that out so I can practice and see what I think 👍
Will be trying this out later today! Love the channel
Thanks, hope you see a difference
Helped me realize a problem I have! Never knew my elbow was too low. Also the aiming with elbow seems mind blowing! Let's hope it helps poor old me haha
Yea it’s crazy what little simple changes will do, I hope if helps you out out there
Solid tips!
Thanks:)
@@DiscManiac28 I was just sitting here watching and I thought, “Is he saying pull to the chest, not past it?” Gave it a shot and my fingers were on fire! Hardest snap I have ever generated!
Aiming with elbow is real and works
I was surprised 😲
Hey DM. Since your into experimenting with a few styles (which is excellent... so many Toobers just stick to what they do (which is fine) but you sometimes answer unasked questions from viewers by trying something they do, and giving an opinion on the result....)
uhhh where wuz i.. Oh yeah... So a lot of people like ME... started back in the 70's just throwing the good ol Name brand... Frisbee (and all it's knockoffs)...
... and we fairly all learned to throw straight arm Hyzers...
I still have this in my bag... and it is actually a great tool (tho I now use the trebuchet action to go way further...
BUT... I have a technique (I guess it's the oldest method but seems forgotten) of getting round big obstacles like trees, where I can see the basket but there's no straight line...
I can face the target on say a 45deg open stance, look directly at the target (not removing my stare), straight arm 30-45deg (hip height) away to the right (ok back arm right handed here)...
I use an over stable low hover disk (my scorch works well)... and my brain does the distance calculation...
basically its a big smooth arc, so as long as the disc leaves somewhere in front of me (probably near pointing at the target) the dish almost always lands on a direct line passing through me and the target... and if I get the distance right... nearly smack on the target...
As its a right arm back hand, it's spinning backward so near stops where it lands.... wind pushes it left/right so I drop the angle in high winds, raise in low
So having explained the heck out of it... basically If I stand and point my right arm about 45deg to the right of the target then throw a 30deg straight arm Hyzer on a smooth curve... all I really need to think about is the power as it almost always lands in line with the basket and stops...
I can use the same on a 45 Anhyzer but the disks usually fades back before making the ground (I think I need to try my (ohhh so straight) Superhero (Trilogy Challenge 20') as it may not fade out as bad... ).
The thing with this shot... it works from about 30ft to about 200 for me.. and up/down hills if my brain gets the angle right tipping forward or back to match the terrain.. but I usually come up short on steep hills...
hope that made sense.
Yes, All made since.. had to read a few times and I believe I got it. I haven’t tried a straight arm hyzer but it’s something I’m gonna have to try out. Sounds like a good tool to have in bag for certain situations, thanks for tip
@@DiscManiac28 I think the difference is in the open stance and stare at the target...
You can use a whip or straight arm, but it's a stand still (sort of forgot to say... stand still) quick shot...
Maybe it's my years of throwing hyzers to my friends, standing looking at them, and landing them at their feet or catch..
Oh and the BIGGEST thing I found to help new players..
Go to a field... with a FRIEND... no wind...
face each other and throw the same 1-2 disks back and forth..
(once they get good you can attempt to catch the disks (I can quite well, just don't use an ankle/shin) 😞
the thing with this is... they can throw the same disk... a hundred times... and only have to walk .. well as far as the other person is bad...
It also seems easier to throw a disk to a person than a basket... I think if they thought about the basket as a person that you wanted to catch the disk .. they may get better... I did.
@@TheButlerNZ that’s great info, I like it cause when I go to field the least favorite part is going to retrieve all discs I’ve just thrown, so that would be great to do
@@DiscManiac28 Once I was catching the discs my mate improved quite quickly and I was walking 10-20ft on 200ft throws (Just inside the length of a Rugby field (100m, 330 ft)...
What's more... he started sending the odd new disk... and I could pick it up... look at the numbers... and send it back fairly accurately (even swapping stable/under stable on me...)
course there's always that unstable hyzered into a breeze that flips up and heads off sideways for the car park.
@@TheButlerNZ lol 😂 yea that’s great stuff
I agree with you 100%! My additional problem is the air bounce. Witch muscles do you use when pulling your elbow? 😂
If your just using your arm in throw it would be tricep, shoulder, and back but if you get the full run up it’s all those plus legs and core
If u want to know how to elbow objects out of your way ask grannies on Black Friday sale.
Lol haha 😂 love it thanks for the laugh
Reminds me of walking in town where (In New Zealand) polite people 'walk like you drive' on the left... but there's always an Eddie (My term... people behaving like a back-eddie) walking up the wrong side...
Neat trick... If you hate Eddies....
Walk on the (OK Right side in US)... and as an Eddie approaches on the wrong side.. going against the flow... look to the right (like your window shopping)... The almost always get out of your way...
and if they continue (you can see them in your peripheral quite well...)
Just STOP..... Only an idiot wants to walk into someone stopped looking into a shop window (of course I've still had a couple try)...
I have actually used this on lets say "lowlifes" and they still usually move out of my way rather than walk into me just because I'm walking with my head looking sideways.. And I'm not what you would call 'of significant stature' .
q8)
im super new only gone out and played like 8 times so far but im addicted to it. Just wish my back hand was better my front hand easy just cant hit the pocket with back hand.
It can be hard at first to know what to work on. It’s easy to get addicted. I know I am. When you say I want to get better at my backhand…. R u talking about accuracy, distance or both?
basically all aspects of back hand is my weakness my friend tries to help correct my form its just a learning process.@@DiscManiac28
I was telling my buddies about your advice and he was wondering if you gave lessons?
I haven’t ever before but if he is ever out at cause I would be ok to meet him and see if I see anything. If not not busy lol 😆
I have noticed pro's doing that and especially Konner from Foundation leading with his elbow. I thought maybe it was him thing. I want to try this and see if it helps my form. I still can't xstep and throw accurately. I just can't get the footwork and timing down. Obviously, you record yourself for content but do you record yourself to check your form or did you in the beginning?
I absolutely recorded myself and still do to change little things once at a time. I try and focus on the one thing I notice and stay with it until I see it’s improving
I started recording myself about 1.5 years ago and it’s helped so much. I would say it’s a must if you really wanna get better form
can't x-step.... apart from trying stand still (which I guess you do... and as DM experimented with... balance on your rear leg for the stand still...
Try a little crow hop...
the timing for an x-step seems to be 1.. 2.. 3..
where a crow step is more 12... 3
It also seems to help stay on the Tee rather than using the full length or even having to start off the Tee. (for me)
@@TheButlerNZ I appreciate that. Figuring out the timing is the thing that kills my distance off the tee.
@@Big_C_Here I'm too inconsistent to be a lot of help.. but one thing I see over and over again...
Slow down and throw a mid/putter... and get the methods right at a slower pace...
I just keep throwing hard so hit a wall at 330ft... and keep forgetting to 'go back to school'
I can’t really conceptualise how you are aiming. Looks like you are throwing exactly the same. Seems you aim with feet
I guess I was pointing elbow In direction that I wanted disc to go, the feet do play a part but I was specifically trying to point elbow
@@DiscManiac28 how do you do that when it’s constantly in motion? I will say I have a problem with over rotation and will miss right generally when I miss
@@patrickflanigan951 that’s what I do also, it’s my main miss. ( to the right). it’s at the point when you pull elbow through I just try to point it in that direction, lol not sure how to explain it through message. It’s hard to explain
@@DiscManiac28 yeas exactly. Nearly impossible. So the whole breaking the glass thing is basically the same thing. Not sure that it is particularly helpful but what I find interesting is how Simon almost never raises his elbow especially on approach shots. It’s almost straight down and this forearm is almost 90 degrees to his bicep.
@@patrickflanigan951 yea I just went and watched some of him throwing and his torso is bent over at an angle and it appears his elbow is down lower but when he bends over his elbow is still out to create the “space” for power pocket, he has so much power. On approach shots it maybe different I haven’t watched them but because he doesn’t need so much power it maybe lower