E36 BMW M50 - CES COPPER SPACER + CUTRING GASKET + ARP Head Stud Install
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- Опубліковано 6 бер 2019
- CES Copper spacer, cutring gasket and ARP head stud install on the M50B25TU to get it ready for boost. I couldn't really find any video's on this process and install so I did one up myself.
Be aware there is a particular procedure which is outlined in the video in regards to torquing the head studs as you need to use different torque settings compared to what ARP provide. Can provide the link to full details if required.
Apologies for the average editing, I couldn't load the video's into After Effects so had to do an edit on my mobile phone....so was the best I could do. - Авто та транспорт
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good video, what is the size of the gasket? And how big is the spacer? where did you buy this? I'm from Portugal and I'm starting a turbo m52b25.
Thanks! Jump onto the CES Motorsports website and look for the cutring/copper spacer combo. I'm running the 84.5mm cutring gasket which works fine for the stock M50 84mm bore. Looks like they are out of stock though, so touch base with them to find out when they are getting more in. All the best with the turbo build.
Nicr video, what is the copper gasket spray for?
Thanks! The spray literally just helps the spacer seal to the engine block by filling any minor imperfections in either surface. Probably not entirely necessary but for the small outlay its worth it for insurance that your gaskets/spacers will seal properly
I just installed my head. I was looking at forums and I was wondering if you ever did the 500 mile retorque on all the head studs?
Nope, haven't re-torqued the head studs since the original heat cycle re-torque. It certainly wouldn't hurt, might just mean you need to replace all the gaskets etc again of you pull the rocker cover is all
Are those stock 10:1 pistons? I’ve heard this copper and MLS gasket drop the ratio down to 8:1. Is that true ?
They are the stock 10.5:1 M50 pistons and the spacer/cutring combo lower compression to approx 9:1. However my head was decked a little for N/A power, so i suspect im running close to 9.2:1 or higher. Check out the combo on the CES Motorsport page for more info
What’s the link for the torquing procedure?? Thanks
Here you go:
www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?1838028-CES-Motorsport-Cut-Ring-Head-Gasket-Copper-spacer-combo-install-guide
Awesome video, How much are you pushing on the car? Also is it stock?
Thanks mate, it's changed a bit since this video externally, but I havent had to pull the head at all, still holding in tight. It's currently making 450hp with a Pulsar G35-900. So definitely far from stock. All the engine internals are stock though
What head studs are they?,i ordered arp ones for my m50 engine but they're way too short
If you are using the M50 block and head, you should be using ARP 201-4302 studs.
What about 201-5000 is that fine?
Thinking about doing this setup for my turbo build. How's it holding up?
So far so good, no issues at all and no signs of leakage etc. Highly recommended it
@@DomsE36Garage love to hear it, thanks for getting back to me. I've been reading about alot of people have great results. As long as you use the cooper spray and the special torque sequence your ready to go.
Where did you buy the gasket and spacer
CES Motorsport mate
What power can you push these too and be safe without the spacer?
Too many factors to take into account, but with a fresh gasket and ARP head studs you should be able to get 4-500hp easily with E85
@@DomsE36Garage I want to do 91 tune e85 is hard to get here where I’m at
@@milanmakesbeatscapsulecorp945 you might need to aim for about 300+HP to stay on the safe side of things. Get a good tuner and dyno tune it
@@DomsE36Garage gotcha you know anything about RK tunes? I’ll probably go ahead with the spacer just to be safe. Ideally s50 cams in an m52b28 with 300-400hp on 91 arp studs and cuttring gasket
@@milanmakesbeatscapsulecorp945 yeah Jordan is the owner of RK Tunes, he's really switched on and knows his stuff. Have a chat to Jordan initially to work out what setup will meet your needs. A good resource is also the Boosted E36 World Facebook page if you aren't already a member. Goodluck with the build
Did you get your block resurfaced at a machine shop?
Nope, it stayed in the car. I just cleaned it up with a Roloc disc to clear away debris and was fine
@@DomsE36Garage that’s interesting I heard people say it’s good to resurface the head. Does that mean I don’t have to do it ?
@@azannascar9687 I resurfaced the head, not the block though.
For the third day did you loosen the nut and torque them right away one by one. Or did you loosen all the nuts and go back to torquing them down after all the nuts were broken loose?
I just did one at a time. For memory I didn't loosen them first though. I just set the torque wrench and cranked them down individually. A few of them were a tiny bit loose 👍
DomsE36Garage still holding up fine?
@@marioramirez-vq3hc yes, not an issue at all. Remember ARP advise to torque to a higher spec with this combination. Can't remember off the top of my head but think it's in the video.
Hey where can I read that arp info on the 85ft lb spec
Here you go:
www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?1838028-CES-Motorsport-Cut-Ring-Head-Gasket-Copper-spacer-combo-install-guide
@@DomsE36Garage thanks big homie
@@DomsE36Garage hey thanks again for this, I just got done torquing mine down. How’s your engine holding up though? Would you say it’s stronger than ever with these specs?
@@DomsE36Garage hey thanks again for this, I just got done torquing mine down. How’s your engine holding up though? Would you say it’s stronger than ever with these specs?
@@blastinblanks9792 Awesome stuff. Yeah, 2 years on, turbo and track abuse and it's holding strong. My turbo blew up before my head had even looked like lifting! So far so good
Did it hold ? ain't you supposed to put it in between 2 head gaskets ?
Yep, has held beautifully and is now running nearly twice the boost without issue. And no, you definitely don't put the copper gasket between two HG's. To be honest, these days of you're running E85, only a Cutring gasket would be fine to run without the spacer
@@DomsE36Garage My m52b25 alum blown head gasket at .8bar boost after 2 year abuse, now i brought athena cutring and m12 head studs, shoud be fine now, pistons are already machined for boost.
@@tcjay119 honestly you should never use two gaskets, never heard of that at all. Maximum you'd use a spacer and a HG. I'd be triple checking your facts if you think you need to run 2xHG as it definitely doesn't sound right. Maybe touch base with Hopwood to confirm, Alex is really good there and will help you out
@@tcjay119 ahh, I was just checking out their site. It isn't a double HG, it's a spacer/decompression plate and an MLS head gasket combo...similar to mine but I use a copper spacer instead of stainless and a cutting HG instead of MLS. So perhaps you guys are getting confused about the plates vs HG.
What’s the song playing?
Sorry mate, not sure. It's just some royalty free music I grabbed back when I made the video. You might be able to use an app to listen to and identify the music.
@@DomsE36Garage reminds me of the ol video game super hang on lol