Girsan 1911 Review & Shoot Girsan MC1911S .45acp
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- First 150+ rds with the Girsan MC 1911 S .45 acp shoot and review.
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Bought one of these a month ago. Shot at range today. Couple hundred rounds of different brands and reloads between 4 different shooters. Not a single malfunction. Accuracy was dead on as well.
They can't shoot to save thier ass
You DON'T EVER force a 1911 extractor over the rim, that can break the extractor. It's designed for the case to slide up into the extractor claw. Besides being a 12B Combat Engineer I was my Company's Armorer, and graduated from the United States Army's Armorers School. The magazine could be the problem, or it could be the Gun needs broken in. I'll tell you this, LUBE the weapon. Steel Frame Hand Guns want lube. You shouldn't let the slide slam home with out a live round, or a snap cap. On an empty chamber ease to slide forward.
I agree with you 💯 %
My Brother is 100% correct on his statement!!
Sounds right to me!
92Y?
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A lot of people seem to forget that 1911s are mostly meant to fire FMJ’S
That's not even remotely true of modern 1911's...
@@BuckeyeBallistics They jam because of the hollow points get caught up on the feed ramp I know this because I grew up shooting guns And there was even feel test done to prove this
You could say that about any pisto lol, because practically every pistol has a feed ramp. My Ruger, Tisas, Rock Island, and Colt 1911's all ate hollow points like candy. The problem with this gun was the extractor needing tuned. But you are the expert so I'll let you keep thinking it's the hollow point...
@@BuckeyeBallisticsI mean it only messed up on the hollow point so, and it’s pretty well known that certain hollow points might not always feed well simply because of the feed ramp and the angle of it. I have to agree with the other guy. The resistance the hollow point caused going up the feed ramp was likely enough to keep the slide from slamming forward hard enough to go into battery. Js. It’s pretty obvious it was the hollow point causing issues.
@jmax - I have to agree with my experience and knowledge. I could sit here and explain it to you but you'd just ignore it like you did in my second comment already...
These are great , use Wilson combat mags and Lucas grease never had a failure . But definitely break it in and cycle it a couple of nights
Just bought one. Its a dream t9 shoot
I just looked at one today and I'm considering getting it.
that "crimp" on the brass casing is to help keep the bullets from setting back deeper into the casing during feeding causing high pressure
Just bought one of these same model - my understanding is that they work best with 260 grain nato rounds. Will post later how it does first day on the range. Plan on putting some oil on it and not just use factory shipped status. Great video! Very helpful!
230*
@@BuckeyeBallistics Thanks my bad
1911s need to be ran wet. They don't run dry like a Glock. Most idpa shooters that use a 1911 45 have oilers with full synthetic 5w30 in them. I personally use Lucas oil gun oil which works wonderfully and resists burn off.
Adjust the extractor. Had to tune mine and no problems!
We tried that in one of the follow up videos and it did a little better.
What’s the extractor? Just bought my first handgun today’s and this is the one I got. Any help would be fantastic
It's the little claw that latches onto the right side of the bullet case when it's chambered in the barrel, and yanks the case out as the gun is fired; that's how it ejects.
I recommended switching out the safety detent for the wilson combat version. Makes a much more positive click on these...which is my only gripe on these or the tisas. Great guns. Mine run like tops.....
Edit: its bad practice to keep slamming your slide home in an empty chamber with 1911s. Walk it home with your hand instead of just firing it home after every mag.
Have this problem with mine when I shot it out the box, switched to Wilson combat mags no problem after that
Hmmmm
You MUST clean these guns very well before shooting it says in the manual or you'll have this problem
Clean it when it’s brand new?
@lubui2583 yea, it's a good habit to have. Clean the factory grease off and get it good and oiled up. I do it to all my guns and it has never proved to be a bad idea. Plus it helps you get familiar with the workings of it
@@slickydicky you were right! It was malfunctioning at the range the 1st day. Since then, it’s been great! Self defense ammo is shooting perfectly…I think with the range ammo, I may need to switch the ammo.
@lubi - Wished that worked for us- we tried that in part 2 and still no go. Part 3 we tuned the extractor a little and it improved, but still not 100%...
Straight out of the box it's doing pretty good I believe that after you give it a good cleaning and lube it will perform just fine 👍
Great video 👍. I am looking into these. I only have one thing to add, and I am not trying to be an internet dick. Watch wilson combat videos on pistol misuse. You shouldn't be using the slide stop to drop the slide on an empty chamber. It can damage the sear and over time mess up your trigger. I have to admit I didn't know of this for quite some time. It's really a 1911 issue, or any handgun with a hammer.
Thanks for the tip
@@BuckeyeBallistics that's what she said 😆
@@samaelmartinus3273 😂😂
Sig mags have different bullet angles and fix many feeding issues. BTW, your video has 199 likes and I should be your 200th, I'm curious if yt is not counting thumbs up on gun related content. Do you see 200?
Yes it shows 200 likes and thank you. I noticed myself that for the past week or so, whenever I like a video, it doesn't show the tally update live like it used to, even on other types of videos. Either it's a bug or they changed the way it works, not sure.
I noticed on this particular 1911 like most EAA products it has that very basic three ball site that comes on most of their firearms. I had the same problem with it is aiming low with my Tangfolio Witness and witness P compact. What I noticed was no matter how high or low the target was placed my shots always seem to be firing low. Out of curiosity I put a laser bore sight in the Chamber to see the trajectory of what was coming out of the end of the barrel and I realized that the rear sight on both firearms( same one on this 1911) was a couple millimeters too short and because of that while looking down it the end of the gun is always aiming low. After swapping it on my full-size it has fix the problem. Not sure if this helps when maybe it's something to check into.🤷♂️
Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately he sold the gun, but I'm sure this info will help someone else out.
@@BuckeyeBallistics Was the reason for selling due to unreliability?
Yes he sold it because we were having issues with it feeding hollow points reliably. He tweaked the extractor a little which improved it, but was still having issues (we posted 2 update videos of the gun). I had asked him to let me tinker with it because I was sure I could get it running right, but he sold it.
@@BuckeyeBallistics did you guys contact EAA?
No, he's weird like that. I can't recall him ever calling a company, let alone sending a firearm in for repair ever. If it was my gun it would have been handled differently, as I do not hesitate to call and send my guns in for warranty work.
Put the white dot of the front sight right on top of the rear sight, and on your target, and it will eat the red bullseye 🎯. Mine does anyway.
1911 pistols routinely need 200 rnds to break in. Shot 500$ Colts in the 80s and throating and polishing feed ramps was required.
Ray Phil,
You Are correct, sir. Thanks for the reminder.
I remember in the '70s, buying a brand new Colt and turning it in to the gunsmith, unfired for: replacing sights, tightening slide rails, replacing trigger springs, lightening trigger, smoothing surfaces, dehorning, replacing grips, replace magazine spring, replace firing pinand spring as well as slide spring, and using an aftermarket barrel. After $500 or so of gunsmith work, only then could you take it to the range for break-in. Fun times ...
My Glock 17 and ruger carbine hi-point carbine love the 9mm version the Winchester service grade as soon as I seen the magazines you are using I was wow they look so much like hi-point magazines
Well that's a standard 1911 mag. I haven't had any issues with the Win ammo either; everything I have runs the stuff.
I'm up to a little more than 400 rounds through mine and not a single hiccup...Well worth the money..too bad they don't come with two magazines..
Aren't you supposed to break in 1911s on ball ammo?
I guess? But feel free to check out my 1911 playlist where we did the same with at least a couple other new 1911's without any problems. Also, we posted 2 more videos of *this* gun and put more ammo through it to "break it in." I could sit here and detail everything that happened, but you can head to the playlist and see for yourself.
I believe they're good guns in general, I just think we got one that needed a little re-tweak to run hollow points reliably. When they test fire them at the factory (all guns), they generally only use fmj ammo and only shoot a few rounds which is why this kind of crap gets out the doors.
Hi great video, just letting you know during the video you can clearly see your full name and address on the card around your neck, not sure if that's something you are worried about or not but just thought I would point it out.
It's not my adress, it's the adress where we shoot. I figure once I'm big enough of a channel, people are going to find out who I am anyway, so that part I'm not that worried about (full name). And some people have already recognized where I'm shooting at lol. But I appreciate you looking out for me, so thank you.
2nd man aim deadly😳😳😳
I pick up mine, this weekend!
Hope yours works with hollow points!
Good 1911 build quality, however extra parts from the manufacture are not available for my 4.25inch 9mm. Thats a problem! has anyone found a match on part from another manufacture?
That malfunction was definitely odd. Not entirely sure what was at fault, I’ve never seen one like that.
Same. You could even see the dent in the rim from the claw.
Guns&Cars Yeah, I noticed that. Definitely a first.
@@BuckeyeBallistics when is part 2 coming out?
Um, it's been out. There's probably going to be a part 3 eventually lol, watch part 2 for further clarification.
That malfunction where the slide locks back after the right rounds in mag is spent. That's an uncool malfunction for sure. Doesn't happen with glock 34 until all 17 rounds are spent. 1911's are fun range toys for me. That's about it.
I'm thinking about grabbing one... I want a 1911 with a rail preferably a full length rail but can't find one.
Rock island has a real nice full length rail
I just ordered an all black one. Excited to shoot it
Me too how does it shoot?
Just got one in all black. It malfunctioned at the range.
Great Video!! Nice 1911 for the price!!! Good Shooting!!! 👍
It's the bullets,my 22 mag,missing to the right ,put in high price bullet ,hit everything
Question the place you are shooting looks like a place I used to shoot clays it wouldn't be briar rabbit I used to shoot a lot of clays never shot pistol there might have to give it a try
Might be 😁 I "heard" they have an awesome rifle range also...
If you want one of the best shooting 45's for the price pick up a CZ 45. I think i paid around $750 for mine. Dead on accurate and 100% quality. All steel.
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I changed to WC mags. Problems went away
I believe we tried that in at least one of the 3 part series of this gun...
thanks for the video. a local pawn shop has one for $450. felt good in the hands and everything seemed really smooth
How is it
6:45 "...i'm gonna TRY to hit the tree..."
Don't "try", Grasshopper...DO !
Limpwrist / failure to feed, then flinch.
Lock down Both thumbs... ☆
I like review I like handgun how looks. Do have buyer regret because had major jam issue compare other 1911 that you own????
manufacturer says to clean grease out first then oil it. shooting out of box it will jam
Well we did all that in the follow up videos and it still jammed lol
Needed tuned many manufacturers just stick parts together colt has a video showing that
Seems it does like the hollow points fmj seemed better
So this pistol will take any mag from any other 1911?
Yeah any standard 1911 mag. The compacts probably have different mags.
Bought one, after cleaning it it would jam constantly when using a mix os Wilson combat, sig, and the mag it came with. Used Winchester ammo. Pretty shitty
It's a European American Armory?
It's Turkish
The guns a curste its just operator error even the jams where operator induced by riding up on the slide stop
I purchased a gov and com length girsan (S and C), both of them shot about 3” too low. I sent them in for warranty sight replacement. Buyer has to pay for overnight shipping both ways (not optional), almost a $ hundred dollars. The sights they replaced it with were awful looking and the replacement job marred the slide a little bit. Took almost 2 months. The shooting low aspect is very common on all of these Girsans. Other than that, nothing else was wrong BUT thats a big deal to me, wont be buying from them (EAA/Girsan) again.
The guy with the blue flannel on has a bad grip on the gun .
Nothing wrong with that pistol. Is just cheap ammo and is brand new. The extractor is too stiff. Take home clean it and lube it. Get different ammo brands. Some guns are kind of picky with ammo when they are new.
Cheap ammo lol- this is the same ammo we use in all our other 1911's, and the others even run the steel case Wolf & Tula crap. Perhaps you should watch the two follow up videos of this gun: more rounds, cleaned and lubed, and some tuning of the extractor. Improved, but still problematic. I'm sure they're not all like that- we just got one that needed to go back and be tweaked a little.
Yup the oil on the gun in box is machine oil gotta clean it lube it then shoot
@@BuckeyeBallistics Not many folks will want to watch other videos after this amateur hour bullshit
Good video. I spent several years in Turkey, USAF, and Turks love their guns as much as we do. Here’s a video link that shows a bit of the Girsan factory: ua-cam.com/video/0rxrNDFBYl8/v-deo.html Some factory stuff at the beginning followed by discussion (in Turkish.) Near the end is more factory stuff. Keep the vids coming man.
Thanks. I tried clicking on the link but it won't load. Either way, thanks for watching.
Youre low right because you're flinching expecting recoil. Slow trigger pull and opposing force grip would fix your problem...
Watch my newer stuff- I was a fairly new pistol shooter when I recorded this video. But you're right...
Use the bullets you was using at first when you was hitting
That round has to slide right up under the extractor
Was going to purchase and now very weary from the reviews I see on here with ejection and loading the chamber issues.
I wasn't aware there were other videos with the same issues...
That's dangerous gun
What does running a gun out of the box prove?
Reliability. When 90% of the guns I test run flawless right out of the box, that tells me I don't want to trust my life to the other 10% that don't...
Rack the pistol and don't play with it. All to often people soft rack semiautomatics thinking gonna break it. After 50 rounds just about any gun should be broken in. Your not lining your sights up.
I know what I'm doing. As for my friend who is also in many of my videos including this one, that's a different story sometimes. Kinda hard not to let him be in the video when it's his gun...
what's the price range
It's a little late now but you malfunction is caused by your extractor is not tuned correctly not uncommon on cheaper 1911's and the angle of the extractor face maybe off slightly easy fix with a competent gunsmith or a drop in wilson extractor.
We worked on tuning the extractor which did improve it some
Will this accept a red dot? I know they make a model with a dot already on it, but that particular dot is not for me.
A front rail mounted dot yes. The grips are different than most 1911's though, so I'm not sure if you can get grip mounted dots for it or not.
@@BuckeyeBallistics im speaking about replacing the rear sight. Is the original fixed? Can it be removed to add a red dot like a Venom or RMR?
I just bought one so yes
@@7paradigm7 look at the girsan mc 1911 ct it comes factory with a red dot site on it
Verygood
Watching reviews of these 1911s, just doesn’t seem like a pleasure gun.
I don't know if you mean 1911's in general, or just this Girsan one. I love my other 1911's and they run flawless...
I disagree with break in periods, some idiot was arguing to me that his $1,000 H&K needed a break in period. If your gun needs a break in period, then it was never reliable in the first place.
I'm split on it. I have heard of break in periods working, but personally it has never worked for me. Apparently 1911's tend to be picky guns... But my Ruger, Colt, and RIA all run flawless. But to be fair, they were all used guns prior to me attaining them, so they were "broken in". After 100 rounds this thing still hung up on the HP's a couple times so I'm just gonna go with it didn't like em. Might not even be the HP, might just be that serated crimp on the case...
Guns&Cars Yeah, I agree. And if they do work, then they shouldn’t have too. I’d definitely run some other ammo through it and see if it is still hanging up.
Guns&Cars And doesn’t surprise me that yours work, Ruger is probably the most reliable gun maker currently, colt as well, extremely reliable.
@@UltraDude2000 We will. It ran the Win fmj no problem though...
😂😂😂If you can't wrap your head around a steel frame/slide pistol needing a break in period you better step away from the 1911 platform
Is this a gold finish or a grey, I am going to be buying one of these and I can't tell what color it is from the pictures, some it looks grey and others it looks gold.
Definately not gold, and I know what you mean about the pictures looking wrong. It's a grayish/silver with maybe like a 5% hint of tan in it.
@@BuckeyeBallistics sweet thanks so much!
Anytime
Tac rails on a 1911 sacrilegious
What do you mean by "running" it? Is that the same as shooting it, and if so why don't you just say that you shot, or are shooting it? Otherwise good review.
Why are you being so pedantic over semantics like you're Kratos_God_of_Words
@@BuckeyeBallistics good call!
@@Kratos_God_of_50_BMG A real answer, that is not rude and condescending, would be the term Running is used, since the firearm is a precision machine, and operating a precision machine is referred to as running the machine. Like a sawmill, or lathe, or machine gun. Some wankers like to use the term too much, since it makes them seem to know what they are talking about.
And some wankers leave 3 or more comments on the same video in less than 10 minutes because they think it makes *them* look like they know what they are talking about...
Kinda gives me the creeps to see you guys put your trigger finger inside the trigger guard too soon…
I have one that I bought, so I need to oil it before shooting? I think the oil on it is just shipping oil?
Never hurts
Yup
How is it wd reloads?
Your correct your not getting a 1911 that has rails without some god awful ugly aftermarket add on its incredible what they can do for the money but I was dead set on a tac ultra RIA for my first 1911 it’s just going to be a nightstand and a range gun I have polymer to carry so preferably I’d like it to have a rail and previously rock island seemed to be the best budget option with albeit machined upgraded parts over the standard 1911 like everything this girsan has making them really no brainer upgrades considering what the aftermarket cost would be. So I looked and the cheapest rock island I could find brand new is going to run all together $650-750 I was shocked when I saw these for 5 with everything you can want in that type of gun I’m just not sure about the longevity and reliability rock island is tried and true and has a pretty good reputation, but with everything I’m seeing I have to say I’m leaning towards the girsan. Who knows maybe I’ll just save up a little longer and get a Springfield TRP as my one gun 1911 collection this is unbelievable value though it’s kind of like the shadow systems equivalent to Glock but they are based in the US. I have an Rex zero 1t Ive been Uber impressed with so it’s not hard to see turkey is capable of making some incredibly reliable and quality built guns for stupid low prices girsan also has a m9 clone I’ve been itching to try out hell instead of the TRP I might end up with 2 girsans who knows too many choices 🤣🤣 I would be curious to see a vickers test though on some of these budget options on not only the frames but all the internals and parts
We featured 2 of those "m9 clones" you mention on the channel, the Girsan Regard. From what I understand, it is literally the Beretta because Girsan actually used to produce the 92/m9 *for* Beretta, and the Regards they make today with their own name on it are built on Beretta tooling. They are smooth as glass and dead reliable, one of my favorite guns, especially for the price. Highly recommended.
@@BuckeyeBallistics interesting I’d heard that before didn’t know if it was true or not hard to argue against the girsan if that’s the case. They appear to also have some of the lowest prices on 1911 with rails I’d be curious to know if they took that tooling from another manufacturers well. It makes sense they are able to offer such a good product for so little because they didn’t have to spend money on their own dyes and tooling and manufacturing equipment
Well that and with Beretta it's like buying a BMW- you are just paying for the name.
Is the frame cerakote or nickel?
Cera
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What are the odds of my MC 1911 S back firing and shooting a round into my head my grandpa has me super paranoid I wanna live …. Should I sell mine and retire from guns?
Uhhhh... squib load? You're lacking a little on the details.
@@BuckeyeBallistics I don’t know how else to explain it he was kind of vague just that the guy was shooting his gun and it back fired on him and his own gun shot him in the head he wasn’t very detailed about it sorry ..
Like literally the barrel flipped up to such an angle that the bullet came out the *end* of the barrel and into his head, killing/severely wounding him? I have only seen this happen a few times and it is extremely rare and is due to very poor grip on a very powerful gun- I have never even heard of this happening with any caliber other than a 500 S&W. What happens is, if a novice or someone with weak hands handles a very powerful handgun and doesn't hold it tight, the initial recoil sends the barrel of the gun straight up, or even slightly backwards. Then, in micro seconds time as this happens, the trigger resets for the next round and since they lost control of the gun, their trigger finger is in limbo and catches and pulls the trigger again, sending another round out the end of the barrel. If it happens to be pointed at your face when this happens, goodbye face. I've only heard of it happening with hand cannons (seen a few close calls on youtube) like the S&W 500 magnum. I can't imagine this happening with a .45acp though as it is a lot less powerful. But anyway, to avoid this, firm grip to control the recoil is paramount. If this isn't what you're talking about, then as I said, you didn't give enough descriptors for me to understand what you're talking about...
@@BuckeyeBallistics thank you I feel much more relieved he made it sound like the bullet flew out of the gun out of the top of the barrel like some sci-fi nonsense like the bullet blew through the top of the barrel and hit the guy but I just don’t understand how that makes sense anyway RIP the poor guy
If something like that happens then that is due to a squib load (defective ammunition). A squib load is when you get a low powered round that doesn't make it out of the end of the barrel, so it gets "stuck" in the barrel. Due to the low power of the squib, it will not cycle the gun. But if you fail to notice the squib load in the barrel and chamber another round behind it, when you fire it, the next bullet slams into the bullet stuck in the barrel and can cause the gun to explode. I've never heard of anyone dying from this however- most modern guns are built stronger to handle this. I actually had this happen to me on my channel, thankfully only with a .22, so I wasn't harmed at all. But bigger calibers exploding could throw some shrapnel into your hands and face. I learned that day that not every squib load makes noise, as mine was silent. So now if I get just a "click" and nothing happens, to check the barrel for a stuck bullet before firing again. So to avoid this happening, always check the barrel if you get a weak load, or one that just goes "click." If you want to see that video, it's my review video of the Taurus TX22. If you're sensitive to strong language, then you're not going to like it. If you know how to navigate youtube well, it'll be in the popular video list, or find it easily in my .22 playlist on the channel.
Did you take into account that you are shooting very close to the target?
Mine is fucking dead on. The only time I miss is when im doing piss poor at recoil management
I definitely needed to hold at 12 o'clock to hit.
I was reading that a few other people had issues with it shooting low and that one even sent it back to the manufacturer, and they shaved the front sight and sent it back to them so it would hit on target. We may have to do this, but let's try some different ammo first.
Yeah I was just reading about it myself. Definitely gonna try other ammo first. If anything I'm gonna send it to a gun Smith and have them put different sites on altogether anyways. I was considering night sights on it or sights that are better adjustable
I always just move my aim point..shooting low left ..aim high right...all about the groups
No sale here
Tune the extractor sir
Tried in part 3, still didn't work.
That same gun is going for $550 now brand new
Are the +p rated anyone ?
7:00 Same issue I am having with mine, but it only happens on the last round. 200 rounds run through it.
Well it was you with the bad shot...not the gun
First off why would you even release the slide then throw the magazine in and then rack it when you could just release it after you throw the mag and chamber the round that way? Doing too much. Also you got that gun DRY AS HELL! No wonder why you had issues!
Watch the 2 follow up videos after clean and lube where it still doesn't work lol.
@2:34 that's what she said
Cheap ammo , I gave better luck shooting ball ammo breaking in new pistols about 15 0 rounds
What is the best self defense ammunition to use for this gun that will feed nice?
FMJ lol. But honestly it should feed anything and if it doesn't, then there is an issue with the gun and it should be sent back for repair. If you don't already own this gun, then I would suggest a RIA or Tisas as a reliable alternative.
Winchesters white box
i never have had good luck with federal ammo EVER.... always misfire and jams....
It works in all our other 1911's 🤷♂️
Your nuts, most reliable stuff their is along with speer
maybe human error??
Please scroll through my videos and reaccess...
You need to stop racking the gun with your finger on the trigger
It's not, it's just inside the trigger guard because I'm ready to go. And it's pointed downrange, so I can have my finger on it if I want, even though I don't.
Hope the car reviews are more professional than this!Explains why the subscription number is so low!
A dude doing the chick lean!
Ay, that wasn't me; that was my camera man. But yeah 😅
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Dudes, You NEED Some SERIOUS Work on your Trigger Finger Discipline!!!!!
i like that gun,the reason its shooting high that gun wanna make sure you are gonna hit your enemy but if you wanna aim to the head of your enemy it's another story.
You mean low? We literally discussed and showed in the video how it was shooting low.
Ammo…..
Our other 1911's feed the same ammo without any issues...
Shooting like a girl.
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