One thing about the 1911 in .45 that I think gets slept on often is that once you develop solid recoil management there are very few handguns out there that can sling .45 as quickly as a steel-framed 5" barrel 1911.
@@KatoCoyoteCombatWorkshop I don't remember you needing to ask anyone anything. You're wrong, and this is a public forum of which you voiced your very false opinion.
Xcellent comparison & analysis. To me, 1911 in 9mm is a perfect handgun for self defense, it's light, stable with low recoil & accurate to shoot. 45 ACP is for warrior shooters to me :)
10mm +P++ is achieved by using a 40SW barrel and brass. Seat the bullet for a longer/10mm OAL, more case capacity for the slow powder. Increase the Leade of the barrel with a reamer. The small pistol primer will increase the web thickness, and prevent case blowout. Increase the spring rate as needed to keep the frame from getting battered. Work up 0.1 increments until bulge is found on spent brass. Brass always fails before the gun.. unless it is a CZ52. Enjoy
I’ve learnt a lot about the 1911 from the many learned “experts” on the subject! I’ve learnt it’s the best handgun ever made. I’ve learnt it’s the worst handgun ever made. I’ve learnt 9mm is the best calibre. I’ve learnt .45 is the best calibre. I’ve learned that just about every other variable everyone of the “experts” holds a correct but differing opinion on too! One thing I am certain of is that we here in England can no longer own one and I’m gutted about having to give mine up!
Be like us Americans... mag dump, reload, and mag dump again until you're left at peace. There's a reason many local government agencies say they refuse to do door-to-door confiscation besides their oath to the constitution.
England lost its mind, quite some time ago, about guns. I am of the English bloodline and it really bothered me to see the bans and confiscations of the guns there.
Andy, look at Canada. That is what is in store for you next. Same people are perpetrating all of this on the world. Stand against it now. These people fully intend to depopulate the planet.
@@tanogg794 Tisas from Turkey imports what is an updated MKII into the US & Ishapore in India still manufactures a copy, but I am unaware of any imports from India. FEG in Hungry might be bringing a Hi-Power clone again & Argentina also does a clone that is occasionally imported. The Turkish guns are the easiest to find but have had problems. To read up on it go to BHPSpringsolutions.com. They have a great in depth review that doesn't pull any punches.
I have a 9mm 1911, all my other guns are 9mm. Whatever you actually shoot makes you proficient, so if you mostly have 9mm get a 9mm if you already shoot .45 get that.
@@ImZeDoctah I would say get it in 45 acp because a lot of the 9mm versions can be less reliable unless you get a good one like the Dan Wesson Specialist in 9mm. Those don't tend to have any problems. The one I have in 45 acp is the all steel version Ruger 1911 CMD and for the money it's been great. If you get a light weight aluminum frame commander 1911 you'll probably want one with a ramped barrel because ones without the ramped barrel can cause excessive wear on the aluminum frame.
I have 22 1911 pistols. I have 2 in 9mm caliber. I like that 9mm 1911s. I just finished building a Commander size one and tested it today. I loved it. Mild recoil and soft shooting pistol.
I love the 1911 in .45acp 😌 a 1911 in 9mm is just isn't a true 1911 in my opinion but it's very convenient.. less cost and controllable recoil. I wish you can look deeply into the 9x18 Makarov Pistol Larry
@Bryan Yorke your argument is that he chose not to model the High Power on the 1911 for unspecified problems. I am arguing design changes were mostly to avoid legal issues
Being a skinny and lanky dude myself with somewhat smallish hands I have always really liked the 1911 Colt. I wish I'd never sold my cheap Rock Island 1911A1; it wasn't expensive, was durable fairly accurate and always tan just fine.
I just inherited a 9mm from my mom's second husband George, who was a good guy and good friend to my mom ( they married at ages 76 and 78, years after my biological dad had passed.. This pistol was purchased in 1982, has its original receipt, and probably has had less than 50 rounds through it, per my local gun shop owner...;)) I think George had bought this just on impulse, and as a "trophy" I guess.
1911 is an awesome gun despite the fact that it is over 100 years ago. I have one 1911 in 45 ACP in steel frame. It stays by my bedside. For carry I have a Sig P365. I also have a Glock 19 that I love.
TEXICAN CHECKIN IN !!! PROUD OWNER OF S&W E-Series 45, and Sprigngfield EMP 40, if bullet nose dives and jams on a new clip, use a pair of pliers and open up the flares on the mag, its not the gun. Ive dropped mine in sand, mud, and in freezing temps, and it go boom everytime...
LAV I've been carrying a 1911 platform for 35 years now. Hands down the GREATEST COMBAT HANDGUN EVER!!!! If GOD carried a handgun it would be a 1911, in 45acp. I am saddened to see Wilson drop the 38 Super. The Super was the 2nd chambering by Mr Browning, as you know. With the proper ammo you have a basically have a 1911 in 357 Magnum with almost TWICE the capacity. I love the 45acp and the 10mm is basically the 41 Magnum, and though I own a few 1911s in 9mm it seems I am committing a TRAITOROUS ACT when I carry one. I dont feel that way when packing a 38 Super. As ALL of us that have carried OLD SLAB SIDES into Harm's Way know, the magazine has always been the weakest link in the 1911. GI issue mags have always been JUNK!!!! THE SINGLE MOST RELIABLE MAGAZINES ON THE MARKET ARE WILSON COMBAT!!!!! I personally carry the 47-D 8 round magazines in 45acp. I will ONLY use a NON-WILSON magazine IF I feel I need to practice malfunction drills. For those I use Colt magazines. Chip McCormick magazines are REALLY GOOD and I used them in USPSA for years WITHOUT any malfunctions. But when my LIFE is on the line, WILSON COMBAT is THE magazine in the pistol !!!!!!
I originally from the state of CT and Colt FA MFG, in Hartford, CT is our original MFG plant. I owned original M-1911 Made in 1913 with US Government acceptance proof mark, Caliber .45 ACP. and I don't want to get rid of it. All of my friends who was a gun maker at Hartford, plant are now passed away. My M-1911 is all steel frame machine at Colt plants along with all parts are from Hartford plants. Colt M-1911 is over than 100 years old on service and never had issue with jamming or melt function. I still had original Frankford, Arsenals, ammo 230 grains and it still shot without issue except it is corrosive ammo.
Best extractor tension test in my opinion is to field strip the gun, take the slide in your hand, take a live round and slide it on the breech face from the bottom to the top of slide being sure to hook the extractor claw into the groove on the case, and then you should be able to lightly shake that slide and wave it around without that live cartridge falling off of the breech face. If your extractor can hold a loaded cartridge on while you wave it in the air, it will work correctly every time. If the cartridge falls off, remove the extractor and carefully bend it inward in tiny increments until you achieve the necessary tension for it to hold the cartridge firmly.
Vic Diaz I’ve shot Colt Delta Elite in 10 mm and I can conclude that it’s a good pistol and a great cartridge. But I prefer Glock 40 in 10 mm just because I prefer Glock over 1911. I can’t explain why I like 1911 in .45 more than 1911 in other cartridges. May be because it’s a traditional cartridge fore 1911. Than again, I associate 1911 with .45 ACP.
I have owned five 45 acp 1911’s including a 3” desert eagle. Recoil on all has not been a issue. I own many 9 mm handguns but no 1911’s (maybe? In the near future or the new springfield hi power). I do not know why, but 45 acp is just more fun to shoot.
Thank you, Sir... great video. I very much appreciate your comments about a ramped barrel in "other than steel" .45s. I once owned first generation Kimber 1911, Commander size lightweight. It was in .45 ACP but did NOT have a ramped barrel. I was VERY unreliable as even ball ammo would hang up on the aluminum feed ramp, which was, of course, part of the frame. I seldom got through a whole magazine and sold ti to a guy for a .22 ACE conversion (which worked very well for him). Thanks again.
I love my frankenbuilt 1911. Dude built it in the 70s as a race gun and I have had gunsmiths offer me triple what I paid for it. It is the most accurate, funnest handgun that I have ever owned. Now I am getting a 9mm 1911 because I have way more 9mm than 45 ammo. Too many people have varied opinions on the caliber and capacity debate. But at the end of the day, the firearms you shoot best with are the best firearms.
My bud talked me into the 1911 9mm, I didn't understand why anyone would go for 9mm vs.45acp but three things he said. More rounds, less recoil and cheaper to practice at the range with. Also the less amount of different ammo is best I remember I used to have just about every caliber and now I keep it simple.233 9mm and 12ga.
Thanks for the Knowledge , Mr. Vickers !!!!!!!! I have both platforms, one is a Springfield Armory 1911 Custom loaded in 45 ACP an the other is a Citadel 1911 70's series in 9mm. I love them both , but i still prefer the 45 ACP 1911. Awesome versus video , Sir !!!!!!!!!!
Have been a fan of the 1911 (45ACP) for years now. I load 200gr SWC, and she's happy. I must add that Vickers' Slow motion videos of firearms in operation is pure porn.
I have a 5” in 9mm and 45acp, along with a commander length 45acp. My two cents is it is about the ergonomics of the platform. They all function the same, safeties etc...my muscle memory is tuned thru all three guns. I run my 9mm primarily as a range gun...it is cheaper than burning up my 45 Ammo, and I did have an expert 1911 gunsmith work on my 9mm extractor and it runs without fail. So I can practice more often, and I can carry either caliber with confidence in my shot placement. By being able to train more I am effective with either caliber....it is all about your training and attitude, not ego.
It is all a pissing contest. I was never really interested in 1911s. But you are correct, the ergonomics are unrivaled. I will be picking up my first 9mm 1911 soon as a companion for my other 1911.
Would love a Wilson combat 1911..any flavor. However they are out of my budget currently. Still great looking blasters! Thanks for everything you do LAV! ✌️
I love my Kimber Custom TLE 2 -TFS in .45, I also carry chips 10+1 mags. I think my next 1911 will be either the SIG scorpion, Springfield Op, Colt M45A1.. so many choices
I have a Norinco 1911 clone in 9mm, bought it for a song, works flawless and love it. The one down side, is that while it is a 1911 copy, they for whatever reason they make the sight dovetails smaller than a regular 1911, and the steel used is a harder steel, so the dovetails need to be milled out slightly and the gunsmith with a bit for harder steel, if you want to replace either the front or rear sights. Not sure why, but that would be the only drawback.
It’s sad that they’ve dropped .38 Super. It is a 1911 classic chambering. Something has always seemed wrong, from a historical perspective, with a 1911 chambered for a kraut cartridge. Les Baer makes his stinger in .38 Super, an awesome ccw option.
mdd1963 I have shot a stinger in .38 super, a friend of mine bought it for his wife. It’s an amazingly sweet shooting pistol. I’ve put about 100 rounds thru it. I would buy one in a heartbeat. Nothing wrong with the colt, I wouldn’t quibble with that choice. I’m mostly just a fan of .38 Super in a carry 1911.
My choice. Not critical about anybody else. If I was going to get a 1911 in a different caliber other than 45ACP would be 38 Super. But that is just me.
I have a 9mm 1911 but it is LesBaer customized Colt Super Elite in 9x23mmWin and it is Sweet. 10+1 125gr JHP @ 1500+fps I just wish the caliber caught on. My remaining 1911's are in 45ACP, 10mmAuto and 38Super+P. I have been looking at a Commander style or Similar in 9mm just to see how soft shooting they really are. I imagine it wouldn't be any softer than 38Super. Anyway Great video as always LAV
Michael Hatfield there isn’t much, if any, felt recoil difference in 9mm vs .38 Super in a 1911 platform, unless you are loading the hottest Buffalo Bore .38 Super. The advantages of .38 Super over 9mm in a modern1911 are significant.
Did everyone forget about the handgun of the year Para Ordnance P14-45 in 2000. I have use the 1911 for over 50 years - loved it the moment Uncle Sam introduced me to the weapon.
True fact who cares what round you carry over the other both will get the job done no problem me personally I like both 9MM and 45ACP as long as I'm shooting I'm good
I used to think 9m m. +P+ was the shit until I met .45acp +p what a world of difference! I used to carrying. 45 acp! My Berettata 92fs is exactly the same size as my Colt 1911, hell they fit in the same laser cut closed cell foam box! But now I'm leaning to FN 5.7 It's just clean & light while being hard hitting without over penatration... Hell if you all can afford a $2-3000. Gun you can afford a dollar a round!!!
I have 1911's in 9mm, 38 super, 380 and 45. Love them all. Now I'll wait for the first comment saying their Rock Isand is just as good as Wilson Combat lol
The older I get the less I enjoy shooting 45 ACP. I’m such a fan of 1911s that I may seek out a 9mm 1911. The grip and slimness of the 1911 just can’t be beat.
Well he’s a tier one operator, so him begin able to get those tight groups and that quick reload makes sense in a way, also he had so much time with the 1911 as well, Delta force sidearm is a 1911 till this day with some modifications
Larry is such a treasure to the community . If your a gun guy, you should all stop a second and thank the maker for him... If your an american, then you must know that our country is better for having had.them.. im pretty good shade tree gunsmith, and pretty knlowlegeable.. but.i love his videos like this... There aint.much about the platform you can teach me... But i still love waching.and hearing his opinion and thoughts.. and having watched several, i can tell you , vickers is real expert.. i am too... On my platforms...buts hes the kind of expert you only.achieve having held and spent time with all those guns......most of us a relegated financially. To reading and watching guys like vickers... And i can tell you this... If i go to buy a gun im un familiar with, one of my first steps is to see if vickers has a video on if... Thanks Larry Vickers, for all youve done for our shared passion.. and also For God, and Country
I also recommend Wilson Combat for all types of firearms alterations. They upgraded what has become the perfect 1911. With the Wilson Combat's Bombproof firing pin, firing pin spring and firing pin retaining block for a 1911. Same with a solid stainless steel, precision rifle barrel. The Wilson Combat's proprietary coating called Armor Tuff continues to be perfection. A perfect job on all work done. If you want to go to the factory. Need to go to Ruud, Arkansas. A town so small you won't find it on a map.
Thanks for this video. I have a 9mm 1911 and this video provided me with some great information.i was considering getting rid of the pistol before watching your video.
Do not rely on capacity! Nobody ever died from a loud noise. Every round downrange that’s not a decisive hit on the target is a potential charge or civil suit against you. Much better to neutralize the threat at the top of the magazine than the bottom. Shot placement, folks! Even though it seems to be the prevailing view that modern projectile technology makes bullet expansion of the 9mm equal to the 45 ACP; I know that the .45 will not shrink to 9mm. And the 10mm was specifically designed to be as ballistically effect at 50 yards as the 45ACP is at the muzzle.
In 45 it is advantageous to go with a heavier 1911. Heavier frame with a rail, plus a heavier bull barrel, and full length guide rod helps. Plus aggressive grip checkering... this makes the recoil much more manageable. A fine example in this category is the Springfield Armoury TRP Operator. In 9mm the 1911 slide cycling feels sluggish due to the lower round energy (especially with 130 power factor competition loads)... for 9mm it is advantageous to go with as light a slide as possible either with lightening cuts or if its for USPSA or IPSC whatever type cuts are legal in division like deep serrations. A fine example in this category is the BUL Armoury Trophy SAW 1911.
That just it for me. I love my Springfield TRP .45.IT just to heavy and cumbersome for CC unless I wear large workpants with a heavy belt and large untucked shirt. So it's my glove compartment gun. My everyday carry is a glock 42, glock 26 or my glock 19x 9mms because I can comfortably carry with any pants, shorts or sweats.
9mm and .45 are actually more or less the same recoil wise, at least with standard loads. Standard 9mm loads(115 or 124 grain FMJ) produce 330-370 ft lbs of muzzle energy, while standard 45 ACP loads(230 grain FMJ/hardball) produce 350-380 ft lbs of muzzle energy. First time I ever shot a 9mm pistol was a friend's Ruger P89, which is pretty much the same weight as a full sized, all steel 1911, and I didn't notice much difference in recoil. Prior to, I thought I'd shoot the 9mm better due to it's "lower" recoil. But I was wrong. My groups with my 1911 .45 ACP were real tight, while my P89 9mm groups were all over the target because the gun's too bulky for my hands. What I learned that day is that both the 9mm and .45 ACP are moderate recoiling calibers. Only big difference here is that the 9mm is much faster and snappier, the .45 ACP is much slower and pushier.
@Mike P I know what you mean. I feel I've always done my best handgun shooting with the 1911. Due to it's straight sliding trigger and slim oval grip, the 1911 even to this day is unsurpassed for shootability and ergonomics. I've never cared for the Glock's boxy grip or it's trigger design. Glock trigger is ok though, nothing special. I myself didn't have much luck with the pocket guns either. Like you said, they are much harder to grip. Their felt recoil is sharper cause they're smaller and lighter. PPK suited me well though. Probably because I have small hands and because it's heavier due to it's steel construction. Like, the PPK's felt recoil was much less than say the Glock 42. I've seen several fellow shooters at the range practicing with pocket guns that repeatedly jammed. I remember giving them some lubrication for those, but the issue still remained. Biggest reliability issue with the pocket guns is probably what Ken Hackathorn talked about with Larry Vickers in their video on Wilson Combat 1911s (it's on UA-cam) about them having limited "dwell time" and needing proper recoil springs, hammer springs, lower recoiling ammo, etc to have proper "dwell" time.
God how I love my Wilson Combat 1911 in .45 ..... it conceals easier than my G17. Never had 1 malfunction with my 1911 with the Wilson 8 or 7 round mags.
g17's arent really easily concealable, if u wanted 9mm a g19 would be the perfect choice, but .45's rlly good too, i just personally wouldnt prefer it for conceal carry but i would like .45 in a full size pistol
I went from a Glock 21 to a Kimber Custom II with W.C. Barrel, Trigger, Mags, ect. Best decision I’ve ever made; as far as guns. This Fall I’m gonna Pull the Trigger (Pun Intended!) & go all in for a W.C. 1911. It’s gonna be my Retirement Present to myself. Oh; Customer Service is impeccable!!
Thanks again Larry, another great video. Curious, why is a ramped barrel an improvement in reliability for every 1911 in every size, caliber and frame material except a 5" steel .45?
Because the original design was to make a 5” gun work with a .45 caliber FMJ that’s rounded instead of pointed like a 9mm. Once you start moving away from the original design, you’ve got to make changes to make the gun work in that format. The original AR-15 was designed to run with a 20” barrel. Once you start shrinking bits, then you get into different length gas systems or heavier buffer springs to compensate.
To be honest here, I prefer the .45 ACP more because I like to have more stopping power. Wouldn't we need something that packs more punch and knockdown power?
Knockdown/Stopping power is kind of a myth, sure you can knock down bowling pins, but people don't get knocked over, they usually fall toward the direction they were heading after being shot and end up face down. It really comes down to blood loss and organ damage. More bullets = more holes = more damage. Hence the 9mm variant of an iconic .45 caliber weapon. IMHO
Yes. In a life and death situation, seconds count. You need to stop your adversary immediately before he could get a chance to shoot, stab or slice you in half with his machete. The 45 ACP was designed to do just that.
Love 1911s Ive got a nickel plated one that i have for display and a Springfield V10 with the 3.5" barrel. I bought a Glock 19 recently as a potential replacement for the V10 as its a very similar size, but its just so bland. It does the job, but Glocks have no character in comparison to a well made 1911. I know a good trigger kit for the Glock would make it crisp, but I just dont want to sink anymore money into the Glock. I only bought it in the first place so I could have a Glock in my collection. A lot of money to spend for pointless bragging rights 😂😂😂
I have to agree. The second pistol I ever bought was a Colt Combat Commander & even stock it ruined me on every other pistol out there on trigger pull. I currently have a $400 RIA that STILL beats every stock Glock or near stock Glock trigger I have EVER handled. 1911 is Still unbeaten champ on trigger pull vs the world.
@@8166PC1 I'm on about the handling and general characteristics of the pistol. Glocks are very bland, utilitarian and only made for doing the job reliably. Im not in life and death situations like Police and Military where I'm gonna need something like that, hence why I prefer 1911's. Glock triggers feel shit, that have nothing to do with my opinion of the accuracy..
@@BladePressure Well not totally, is it? Still on the topic of 1911s which the video is about. If that isn't good enough for you, I apologise Mr Stalin the great Dictator
Considering getting a 1911 but can’t decide between 9mm or 45. 9mm because it’s a cheaper round and the one I have the most experience with but the 45 cause America 🦅
Always felt the .40 would have been an optimal round for the 1911 platform. 10mm is my favorite cal but the length of it gives the 1911 fits with consistent feeding.
The 1911 in .45 has and will always be my heartthrob I have a para ordinance black ops single stack and I trust it with my life. However if I had the chance to get a wilson combat in 9mm or 10mm I wouldn't turn it away
What they made a 45 ACP? I (still) be rocking the 45 Colt! The “Taylor Knock Out Index”: Velocity (in fps) x Weight (in grains) x Diameter (in inches) = _ divided by 7,000 [to convert into foot pounds of energy]. 9mm: [1901 AD] (Original) Standard P - 1180 x 115 x .355 = 48,173.5 divided by 7,000 = 6.88 ft pd Underwood Ammo 9mm: Standard P - 1300 x 115 x .355 = 53,072.5 divided by 7000 = 7.58 ft pd +P - 1100 x 147 x .355 = 57,403.5 divided by 7000 = 8.2 ft pd +P+ - 1550 x 90 x .355 = 49,522.5 divided by 7000 = 7.07 ft pd - (?) Notice how big and slow is better than little and faster every time? Well now, it ain’t just what she said anymore! And on that note - 45 ACP: [1904 AD] Standard P - 835 x 230 x .451 = 86,614.55 divided by 7,000 = 12.37 ft pd Underwood Ammo 45 ACP: +P - 925 x 255 x .452 = 106,615.5 divided by 7000 = 15.23 ft pd Fools Figure, but Figures don't Fool! Which now leads us to the Facts - 45 Colt: [1872 AD] (Original) Standard P - 1000 x 235 x .456 = 107,160 divided by 7,000 = 15.3 ft pd Original Underwood Ammo 45 Colt: Standard P - 1000 x 250 x .452 = 113,000 divided by 7,000 = 16.14 ft pd - Xtreme Penetrator +P - 1400 x 250 x .452 = 158,200 divided by 7,000 = 22.6ft pd - Xtreme Penetrator +P This is the results of big getting faster. So, "faster can be goods so long as size is not compromised!" And I quoted her on that. [Liberty Ammunition 45 Colt: Standard P - 1800 x 78 x .452 = 63,460.8 divided by 7,000 = 9.0658 ft pd - Civil Defense Showing little going fast is just that, and nothing more!] +P - 1325 x 325 x .452 = 194,642.5 divided by 7,000 = 27.8 ft pd - Long Flat Nose Gas Check Hi-Tek Coated Hard Cast +P This is the results of big getting bigger! As so did her eyes! Standard P - 900 x 220 x .452 = 89,496 divided by 7,000 = 12.785 ft pd - Maximum Expansion (before it expands) Standard P - 900 x 220 x 1.75 = 346,500 divided by 7,000 = 49.5 ft pd - Maximum Expansion (after it expands) This is the results of big becoming HUGE! At this point she was speechless(?).
I've got two of your Vickers Elite Duty Mags I had 3 but gave one to a buddy. I have had zero malfunctions with them in my Colt Lightweight Commander .45.
Prison guards in my town talk to a lot of inmates. There are lots of them who tell stories about being shot by a 9mm.....some of them, multiple times. I haven't heard of any of them telling stories about being shot by a .45acp.
So there is really no much difference in lethal power between those two, both will penetrate or over penetrate the aggressor, I think that people get caught up in tiny differences in grams and millimeters when they should be focusing on hitting the target. If you shoot someone in the heart or any other vital organ, does not make any difference if it´s 9mm or 45.
I wouldn't throw either out of bed sort of speak. Have several 45 I'm still working on the 9mm but it's going to happen soon. And you have to clean them can't go to the range several times and not clean this pistol. And I won't use steel case anything aluminum yes have been running that for competition for the last three years and have had zero issues with the aluminum rounds. Still shoot brass when I can get it in bulk. Both of these are very nice and worth the money.
9mm is a faster round, you get higher capacity, and it’s cheaper. It’s just better. That is why I carry a .45.
As they say .......”funny ‘cause it’s true”.
Haha
They had us going in the first half I'm not going to lie
Well...9mm used to be cheaper. Lol
that's if you can find it lol
One thing about the 1911 in .45 that I think gets slept on often is that once you develop solid recoil management there are very few handguns out there that can sling .45 as quickly as a steel-framed 5" barrel 1911.
True but I can do it faster with a 9mm 1911... Oh got ya there huh? LOL
I don't remember asking you a goddamn thing
@@KatoCoyoteCombatWorkshop I don't remember you needing to ask anyone anything. You're wrong, and this is a public forum of which you voiced your very false opinion.
What? It's the same cartridge. Any handgun with a 5" barrel will give it the same speed
@@PrIsMaTiSmX whoosh ... It's a Pulp Fiction reference
LV: "Hey gang, Larry Vickers here."
Me: *relieved, knowing that all is right in the world*
Dont wanna pop ya bubble but what world do you live in
Lol! I wish Larry was my neighbor
@@Big-BossXa world in which people freak out about certain deaths from certain things but not others...
yes, Yes, YES!!!!!
@@samholdsworth3957 sadly
Xcellent comparison & analysis. To me, 1911 in 9mm is a perfect handgun for self defense, it's light, stable with low recoil & accurate to shoot. 45 ACP is for warrior shooters to me :)
1911 9mm vs 45 cap? This is a forever debate. Solution? Owning both of them. 😁
Great point!
$7200, plus tax. Yeah why not?
A small price to pay for salvation
@@HerbanLegend420 If you're going to go 1911 for carry you don't really care about price anyway.
all three, you forgot 10mm
I’m not even a huge fan of 1911s but you have got to respect a gun so good that is over 100 years old!
I just wish the cartridge stops hanging up on the magazine well when loading for my 1911😬
I have so much respect for it that is stays in my gun safe. 😀
Larry - Please do one like this on 10mm 1911!
10mm +P++ is achieved by using a 40SW barrel and brass. Seat the bullet for a longer/10mm OAL, more case capacity for the slow powder. Increase the Leade of the barrel with a reamer. The small pistol primer will increase the web thickness, and prevent case blowout. Increase the spring rate as needed to keep the frame from getting battered. Work up 0.1 increments until bulge is found on spent brass. Brass always fails before the gun.. unless it is a CZ52. Enjoy
I’ve learnt a lot about the 1911 from the many learned “experts” on the subject!
I’ve learnt it’s the best handgun ever made.
I’ve learnt it’s the worst handgun ever made.
I’ve learnt 9mm is the best calibre.
I’ve learnt .45 is the best calibre.
I’ve learned that just about every other variable everyone of the “experts” holds a correct but differing opinion on too!
One thing I am certain of is that we here in England can no longer own one and I’m gutted about having to give mine up!
Don’t give it up
Be like us Americans... mag dump, reload, and mag dump again until you're left at peace. There's a reason many local government agencies say they refuse to do door-to-door confiscation besides their oath to the constitution.
England lost its mind, quite some time ago, about guns. I am of the English bloodline and it really bothered me to see the bans and confiscations of the guns there.
Come and take it
Andy, look at Canada. That is what is in store for you next. Same people are perpetrating all of this on the world. Stand against it now. These people fully intend to depopulate the planet.
if you want 9mm in a classic gun the high power exists and was designed for it
All hail John M. Browning!
What´s next? High-Power in .45, cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria?
Sorry for my ignorance, but who makes new Hi Power nowadays ?
FN makes them
@@tanogg794 Tisas from Turkey imports what is an updated MKII into the US & Ishapore in India still manufactures a copy, but I am unaware of any imports from India. FEG in Hungry might be bringing a Hi-Power clone again & Argentina also does a clone that is occasionally imported. The Turkish guns are the easiest to find but have had problems. To read up on it go to BHPSpringsolutions.com. They have a great in depth review that doesn't pull any punches.
I went to a 9mm 1911 last year and I'm not ever going back. Absolutely the softest shooting, most controllable carry gun I've ever used.
Me too... arthritis and age make the 45acp difficult. 9mm good round, effective and works well in 1911 platform.
@@AMX86 I can see that. I am young buck with strong hands, but after a long day training my hands are pretty battered by .45.
I have a 9mm 1911, all my other guns are 9mm. Whatever you actually shoot makes you proficient, so if you mostly have 9mm get a 9mm if you already shoot .45 get that.
I shoot a dozen different calibers, but I went with a commander 1911 in 45 acp
Somehow I feel like ergonomics are more important than caliber in building profiency
Need_A_Name glock is popular due to aftermarket support and reliability
@@Prepare2Survive how do you like it? I’m in the market for a commander 1911 to carry and haven’t yet decided between getting it in 9mm or 45acp.
@@ImZeDoctah I would say get it in 45 acp because a lot of the 9mm versions can be less reliable unless you get a good one like the Dan Wesson Specialist in 9mm. Those don't tend to have any problems. The one I have in 45 acp is the all steel version Ruger 1911 CMD and for the money it's been great. If you get a light weight aluminum frame commander 1911 you'll probably want one with a ramped barrel because ones without the ramped barrel can cause excessive wear on the aluminum frame.
Both great calibers in a superb pistol.
I own a H&K USP in .45… which is my favorite
If I was being held against my will in an enemy camp/prison, and I knew Larry Vickers and his Delta friends were coming to get me I’d be very happy.
Youd giggle and talk shit on the guards
@@YungFudd1776 "you guys aren't getting paid enough..."
Great video ...Im fanatic of 9mm caliber...but the 45 acp its a classic
I have 22 1911 pistols. I have 2 in 9mm caliber. I like that 9mm 1911s. I just finished building a Commander size one and tested it today. I loved it. Mild recoil and soft shooting pistol.
So relaxing seeing those pistols fire👍
They are absolutely beautiful! A masterpiece
Especially in the hands of a master like LV!
I love the 1911 in .45acp 😌 a 1911 in 9mm is just isn't a true 1911 in my opinion but it's very convenient.. less cost and controllable recoil. I wish you can look deeply into the 9x18 Makarov Pistol Larry
.38 Super is a better option than 9mm for a 1911.
I agree, no point to get 9mm 1911
Bryan Yorke .45 > 9mm
Browning made the Hi-Power in 9mm and didn’t just re-chamber the 1911 platform for a reason.
@Bryan Yorke one reason was the 1911 was still Patent protected
@Bryan Yorke your argument is that he chose not to model the High Power on the 1911 for unspecified problems. I am arguing design changes were mostly to avoid legal issues
Being a skinny and lanky dude myself with somewhat smallish hands I have always really liked the 1911 Colt. I wish I'd never sold my cheap Rock Island 1911A1; it wasn't expensive, was durable fairly accurate and always tan just fine.
Michael Athens ditto on small hands. I’ve never liked the feel of double stack grips.
I just inherited a 9mm from my mom's second husband George, who was a good guy and good friend to my mom ( they married at ages 76 and 78, years after my biological dad had passed.. This pistol was purchased in 1982, has its original receipt, and probably has had less than 50 rounds through it, per my local gun shop owner...;)) I think George had bought this just on impulse, and as a "trophy" I guess.
What brand pistol? That’s super cool.
1911 is an awesome gun despite the fact that it is over 100 years ago. I have one 1911 in 45 ACP in steel frame. It stays by my bedside. For carry I have a Sig P365. I also have a Glock 19 that I love.
TEXICAN CHECKIN IN !!! PROUD OWNER OF S&W E-Series 45, and Sprigngfield EMP 40, if bullet nose dives and jams on a new clip, use a pair of pliers and open up the flares on the mag, its not the gun. Ive dropped mine in sand, mud, and in freezing temps, and it go boom everytime...
I love the 🔥45ACP! BEST CALIBER EVER!
LAV
I've been carrying a 1911 platform for 35 years now. Hands down the GREATEST COMBAT HANDGUN EVER!!!! If GOD carried a handgun it would be a 1911, in 45acp.
I am saddened to see Wilson drop the 38 Super. The Super was the 2nd chambering by Mr Browning, as you know. With the proper ammo you have a basically have a 1911 in 357 Magnum with almost TWICE the capacity.
I love the 45acp and the 10mm is basically the 41 Magnum, and though I own a few 1911s in 9mm it seems I am committing a TRAITOROUS ACT when I carry one. I dont feel that way when packing a 38 Super.
As ALL of us that have carried OLD SLAB SIDES into Harm's Way know, the magazine has always been the weakest link in the 1911. GI issue mags have always been JUNK!!!!
THE SINGLE MOST RELIABLE MAGAZINES ON THE MARKET ARE WILSON COMBAT!!!!! I personally carry the 47-D 8 round magazines in 45acp. I will ONLY use a NON-WILSON magazine IF I feel I need to practice malfunction drills. For those I use Colt magazines.
Chip McCormick magazines are REALLY GOOD and I used them in USPSA for years WITHOUT any malfunctions. But when my LIFE is on the line, WILSON COMBAT is THE magazine in the pistol !!!!!!
Great comment
I originally from the state of CT and Colt FA MFG, in Hartford, CT is our original MFG plant. I owned original M-1911 Made in 1913 with US Government acceptance proof mark, Caliber .45 ACP. and I don't want to get rid of it. All of my friends who was a gun maker at Hartford, plant are now passed away. My M-1911 is all steel frame machine at Colt plants along with all parts are from Hartford plants. Colt M-1911 is over than 100 years old on service and never had issue with jamming or melt function. I still had original Frankford, Arsenals, ammo 230 grains and it still shot without issue except it is corrosive ammo.
Best extractor tension test in my opinion is to field strip the gun, take the slide in your hand, take a live round and slide it on the breech face from the bottom to the top of slide being sure to hook the extractor claw into the groove on the case, and then you should be able to lightly shake that slide and wave it around without that live cartridge falling off of the breech face. If your extractor can hold a loaded cartridge on while you wave it in the air, it will work correctly every time. If the cartridge falls off, remove the extractor and carefully bend it inward in tiny increments until you achieve the necessary tension for it to hold the cartridge firmly.
I have had so much fun shooting 45 ACP in 1911 I can’t but help think that a high quality 1911 in 9X19 would be an absolute hoot!
In general I prefer 9 mm over .45 ACP, but the only true 1911 in .45 ACP.
Amen brother.
I disagree at 10mm 1911 is my true favorite. Great stopping power and higher velocity. That’s perfect for a heavy gun like a 1911.
@@vicdiaz5180 absolutely agreed, 10mm is just a better .45
Haha I never shot I gun ever before but you're right, 1911 only in .45 ACP
Vic Diaz I’ve shot Colt Delta Elite in 10 mm and I can conclude that it’s a good pistol and a great cartridge. But I prefer Glock 40 in 10 mm just because I prefer Glock over 1911. I can’t explain why I like 1911 in .45 more than 1911 in other cartridges. May be because it’s a traditional cartridge fore 1911. Than again, I associate 1911 with .45 ACP.
I have owned five 45 acp 1911’s including a 3” desert eagle. Recoil on all has not been a issue. I own many 9 mm handguns but no 1911’s (maybe? In the near future or the new springfield hi power). I do not know why, but 45 acp is just more fun to shoot.
The 9mm 1911 of today, and especially Wilson’s, are dynamite guns.
Regards,
Marky
I am looking at a DW right now. Couldn't decide what caliber and was happy to see a DW specialist on the table.
Thank you, Sir... great video. I very much appreciate your comments about a ramped barrel in "other than steel" .45s. I once owned first generation Kimber 1911, Commander size lightweight. It was in .45 ACP but did NOT have a ramped barrel. I was VERY unreliable as even ball ammo would hang up on the aluminum feed ramp, which was, of course, part of the frame. I seldom got through a whole magazine and sold ti to a guy for a .22 ACE conversion (which worked very well for him). Thanks again.
I love my frankenbuilt 1911. Dude built it in the 70s as a race gun and I have had gunsmiths offer me triple what I paid for it. It is the most accurate, funnest handgun that I have ever owned. Now I am getting a 9mm 1911 because I have way more 9mm than 45 ammo. Too many people have varied opinions on the caliber and capacity debate. But at the end of the day, the firearms you shoot best with are the best firearms.
I want the 1911 9mm aluminum. I'm adding it to my christmas list this year. Now I just gotta be good.
My bud talked me into the 1911 9mm, I didn't understand why anyone would go for 9mm vs.45acp but three things he said. More rounds, less recoil and cheaper to practice at the range with. Also the less amount of different ammo is best I remember I used to have just about every caliber and now I keep it simple.233 9mm and 12ga.
That is the way to go. I personally went with 7mm mag, 20 GA, 9mm and 45
Thanks for the Knowledge , Mr. Vickers !!!!!!!! I have both platforms, one is a Springfield Armory 1911 Custom loaded in 45 ACP an the other is a Citadel 1911 70's series in 9mm. I love them both , but i still prefer the 45 ACP 1911. Awesome versus video , Sir !!!!!!!!!!
Have been a fan of the 1911 (45ACP) for years now. I load 200gr SWC, and she's happy.
I must add that Vickers' Slow motion videos of firearms in operation is pure porn.
in those close hand/arm shots, once can see the damage/marks from years of service in special forces...thanks for your service sir. Salute
Awesome video as always. My next purchase will be a 1911 in 9mm or maybe 10mm.
10mm is the best mm.
I thumbs up even before watching the video. LAV gets it done.
I have a 5” in 9mm and 45acp, along with a commander length 45acp. My two cents is it is about the ergonomics of the platform. They all function the same, safeties etc...my muscle memory is tuned thru all three guns. I run my 9mm primarily as a range gun...it is cheaper than burning up my 45 Ammo, and I did have an expert 1911 gunsmith work on my 9mm extractor and it runs without fail. So I can practice more often, and I can carry either caliber with confidence in my shot placement. By being able to train more I am effective with either caliber....it is all about your training and attitude, not ego.
It is all a pissing contest. I was never really interested in 1911s. But you are correct, the ergonomics are unrivaled. I will be picking up my first 9mm 1911 soon as a companion for my other 1911.
Would love a Wilson combat 1911..any flavor. However they are out of my budget currently. Still great looking blasters! Thanks for everything you do LAV! ✌️
I love my Kimber Custom TLE 2 -TFS in .45, I also carry chips 10+1 mags. I think my next 1911 will be either the SIG scorpion, Springfield Op, Colt M45A1.. so many choices
I have a Norinco 1911 clone in 9mm, bought it for a song, works flawless and love it.
The one down side, is that while it is a 1911 copy, they for whatever reason they make the sight dovetails smaller than a regular 1911, and the steel used is a harder steel, so the dovetails need to be milled out slightly and the gunsmith with a bit for harder steel, if you want to replace either the front or rear sights. Not sure why, but that would be the only drawback.
It’s sad that they’ve dropped .38 Super. It is a 1911 classic chambering. Something has always seemed wrong, from a historical perspective, with a 1911 chambered for a kraut cartridge. Les Baer makes his stinger in .38 Super, an awesome ccw option.
yeah i thought it was a popular competition cartridge too, and they could also cater to the racegun market with .40cal
mdd1963 I have shot a stinger in .38 super, a friend of mine bought it for his wife. It’s an amazingly sweet shooting pistol. I’ve put about 100 rounds thru it. I would buy one in a heartbeat. Nothing wrong with the colt, I wouldn’t quibble with that choice. I’m mostly just a fan of .38 Super in a carry 1911.
My race gun 1911 is a .38 super!
My choice. Not critical about anybody else. If I was going to get a 1911 in a different caliber other than 45ACP would be 38 Super. But that is just me.
38 super is a competition cartridge
I have a 9mm 1911 but it is LesBaer customized Colt Super Elite in 9x23mmWin and it is Sweet. 10+1 125gr JHP @ 1500+fps I just wish the caliber caught on. My remaining 1911's are in 45ACP, 10mmAuto and 38Super+P. I have been looking at a Commander style or Similar in 9mm just to see how soft shooting they really are. I imagine it wouldn't be any softer than 38Super. Anyway Great video as always LAV
Michael Hatfield there isn’t much, if any, felt recoil difference in 9mm vs .38 Super in a 1911 platform, unless you are loading the hottest Buffalo Bore .38 Super. The advantages of .38 Super over 9mm in a modern1911 are significant.
Did everyone forget about the handgun of the year Para Ordnance P14-45 in 2000. I have use the 1911 for over 50 years - loved it the moment Uncle Sam introduced me to the weapon.
Well I recently got a 9mm Berretta, it's a dependable automatic handgun. I can hit whatever I want with the thing.
True fact who cares what round you carry over the other both will get the job done no problem me personally I like both 9MM and 45ACP as long as I'm shooting I'm good
Good info. I have carried a 1911, 45 acp for 50 years.
Many of those years during
my career a 1911, 45 acp
was on my hip. 👍😊🇺🇸✝️
1911 sexiest gun EVER! I just love them
I think the Hi Power and Cz 75 are right there with it aestheticly.
I think the hi power is the just as hot younger sister lol
High point.
Excellent review. Hello from Papua New Guinea! After this, I'll stick to 9mm. Thanks!
I used to think 9m m. +P+ was the shit until I met .45acp +p what a world of difference! I used to carrying. 45 acp! My Berettata 92fs is exactly the same size as my Colt 1911, hell they fit in the same laser cut closed cell foam box! But now I'm leaning to FN 5.7 It's just clean & light while being hard hitting without over penatration...
Hell if you all can afford a $2-3000.
Gun you can afford a dollar a round!!!
It’s cool too see that both of these 1911’s have the original type recoil system @ no guide rods! Good Day Everyone!
You could buy 10 round mags for 45 acp, that’s what I did.
Me also.. Chip McCormick I believe was bought out by Wilson Combat years ago....... 10 rounds 45ACP.
Won't fit flush though
@@raulmachado182 that’s okay I don’t plan to carry this. For home defense or range ten round magazine is good.😁
How does the spring inside the mag hold up? I’ve heard it fails to feed pretty fast. Thanks in advance.
@@23indeed1 so far it’s been okay but then I’ve been shooting 45 GAP more lately.
I have 1911's in 9mm, 38 super, 380 and 45. Love them all. Now I'll wait for the first comment saying their Rock Isand is just as good as Wilson Combat lol
Not near as good but still damn good.
The older I get the less I enjoy shooting 45 ACP. I’m such a fan of 1911s that I may seek out a 9mm 1911. The grip and slimness of the 1911 just can’t be beat.
today i trade a 45 acp and got 9mm and im excited as hell man
Train with 9mm, defend your life with .45 or my personal edc the mighty 10mm.your shot placement from 9 to 45 won't be TOO different
6:27 those are sum pretty solid groups it doesnt even look like hes trying
Well he’s a tier one operator, so him begin able to get those tight groups and that quick reload makes sense in a way, also he had so much time with the 1911 as well, Delta force sidearm is a 1911 till this day with some modifications
As soon as I got this in my notifications I knew the comment's would be amazing and I wasn't wrong
0:56 Damn that was a quick reload. B-)
Larry is such a treasure to the community . If your a gun guy, you should all stop a second and thank the maker for him... If your an american, then you must know that our country is better for having had.them.. im pretty good shade tree gunsmith, and pretty knlowlegeable.. but.i love his videos like this... There aint.much about the platform you can teach me... But i still love waching.and hearing his opinion and thoughts.. and having watched several, i can tell you , vickers is real expert.. i am too... On my platforms...buts hes the kind of expert you only.achieve having held and spent time with all those guns......most of us a relegated financially. To reading and watching guys like vickers... And i can tell you this... If i go to buy a gun im un familiar with, one of my first steps is to see if vickers has a video on if... Thanks Larry Vickers, for all youve done for our shared passion.. and also For God, and Country
I also recommend Wilson Combat for all types of firearms alterations. They upgraded what has become the perfect 1911. With the Wilson Combat's Bombproof firing pin, firing pin spring and firing pin retaining block for a 1911. Same with a solid stainless steel, precision rifle barrel. The Wilson Combat's proprietary coating called Armor Tuff continues to be perfection. A perfect job on all work done. If you want to go to the factory. Need to go to Ruud, Arkansas. A town so small you won't find it on a map.
Let’s see a Delta 1911 build
Another fantastic Larry Vickers video...So informative as usual...
Excellent presentation thank you for your time posting this information.
Thanks for this video. I have a 9mm 1911 and this video provided me with some great information.i was considering getting rid of the pistol before watching your video.
Love my Springfield Range Officer Elite in 9mm. All steel full length but it is so smooth and soft shooting
9mm 1911s make me sad but 10mm, this I could get into.
OMG we finally get real gun audio in a LAV video!
As a user of, exclusively, Vickers Elite mags for the last year and a half; I can attest. They are in fact, the bee's knees.
Why, do, you, use, so, many, commas?
@@ThomasHendrickson Can't help it. It's all the mustache twirling and monocle adjusting.
@@ThomasHendrickson He is, in fact, using proper grammar for the English language, my friend.
insertnamehere001 he isn’t. Would you like me to elaborate?
The 9mm mag is touted as having 10 rounds but Wilson combat has 10 round .45 mags
Do not rely on capacity! Nobody ever died from a loud noise. Every round downrange that’s not a decisive hit on the target is a potential charge or civil suit against you. Much better to neutralize the threat at the top of the magazine than the bottom. Shot placement, folks! Even though it seems to be the prevailing view that modern projectile technology makes bullet expansion of the 9mm equal to the 45 ACP; I know that the .45 will not shrink to 9mm. And the 10mm was specifically designed to be as ballistically effect at 50 yards as the 45ACP is at the muzzle.
@@ExSoldier762 I have a Chip McCormick magazine, and it holds 8 rounds.
It’s a very reliable Mag too.
@@ExSoldier762Having more capacity is better… Nobody asked for less rounds in a gunfight but a hell of a lot of ppl asked for more!
these tips on lube and such (for beginners basically) are very helpful, appreciate your inclusion of them
In 45 it is advantageous to go with a heavier 1911. Heavier frame with a rail, plus a heavier bull barrel, and full length guide rod helps. Plus aggressive grip checkering... this makes the recoil much more manageable. A fine example in this category is the Springfield Armoury TRP Operator.
In 9mm the 1911 slide cycling feels sluggish due to the lower round energy (especially with 130 power factor competition loads)... for 9mm it is advantageous to go with as light a slide as possible either with lightening cuts or if its for USPSA or IPSC whatever type cuts are legal in division like deep serrations. A fine example in this category is the BUL Armoury Trophy SAW 1911.
If a full sized 1911 kicks too hard with 45 I suggest a rape whistle
That just it for me. I love my Springfield TRP .45.IT just to heavy and cumbersome for CC unless I wear large workpants with a heavy belt and large untucked shirt. So it's my glove compartment gun.
My everyday carry is a glock 42, glock 26 or my glock 19x 9mms because I can comfortably carry with any pants, shorts or sweats.
9mm and .45 are actually more or less the same recoil wise, at least with standard loads. Standard 9mm loads(115 or 124 grain FMJ) produce 330-370 ft lbs of muzzle energy, while standard 45 ACP loads(230 grain FMJ/hardball) produce 350-380 ft lbs of muzzle energy.
First time I ever shot a 9mm pistol was a friend's Ruger P89, which is pretty much the same weight as a full sized, all steel 1911, and I didn't notice much difference in recoil. Prior to, I thought I'd shoot the 9mm better due to it's "lower" recoil. But I was wrong. My groups with my 1911 .45 ACP were real tight, while my P89 9mm groups were all over the target because the gun's too bulky for my hands. What I learned that day is that both the 9mm and .45 ACP are moderate recoiling calibers. Only big difference here is that the 9mm is much faster and snappier, the .45 ACP is much slower and pushier.
@Mike P I know what you mean.
I feel I've always done my best handgun shooting with the 1911. Due to it's straight sliding trigger and slim oval grip, the 1911 even to this day is unsurpassed for shootability and ergonomics. I've never cared for the Glock's boxy grip or it's trigger design. Glock trigger is ok though, nothing special.
I myself didn't have much luck with the pocket guns either. Like you said, they are much harder to grip. Their felt recoil is sharper cause they're smaller and lighter. PPK suited me well though. Probably because I have small hands and because it's heavier due to it's steel construction. Like, the PPK's felt recoil was much less than say the Glock 42. I've seen several fellow shooters at the range practicing with pocket guns that repeatedly jammed. I remember giving them some lubrication for those, but the issue still remained.
Biggest reliability issue with the pocket guns is probably what Ken Hackathorn talked about with Larry Vickers in their video on Wilson Combat 1911s (it's on UA-cam) about them having limited "dwell time" and needing proper recoil springs, hammer springs, lower recoiling ammo, etc to have proper "dwell" time.
God how I love my Wilson Combat 1911 in .45 ..... it conceals easier than my G17. Never had 1 malfunction with my 1911 with the Wilson 8 or 7 round mags.
g17's arent really easily concealable, if u wanted 9mm a g19 would be the perfect choice, but .45's rlly good too, i just personally wouldnt prefer it for conceal carry but i would like .45 in a full size pistol
@@DLI002 G19s are awful to conceal, same thickness as G17
@@booya6437 they aren't that thick
@@DLI002 I carried one for a while, way too thick for me.
seen way too many videos of people soaking up 9mm shots. I have never seen anyone soak up that many 45ACP and still keep coming.
I went from a Glock 21 to a Kimber Custom II with W.C. Barrel, Trigger, Mags, ect. Best decision I’ve ever made; as far as guns. This Fall I’m gonna Pull the Trigger (Pun Intended!) & go all in for a W.C. 1911. It’s gonna be my Retirement Present to myself. Oh; Customer Service is impeccable!!
Thanks again Larry, another great video. Curious, why is a ramped barrel an improvement in reliability for every 1911 in every size, caliber and frame material except a 5" steel .45?
Because the original design was to make a 5” gun work with a .45 caliber FMJ that’s rounded instead of pointed like a 9mm. Once you start moving away from the original design, you’ve got to make changes to make the gun work in that format. The original AR-15 was designed to run with a 20” barrel. Once you start shrinking bits, then you get into different length gas systems or heavier buffer springs to compensate.
thanks
To be honest here, I prefer the .45 ACP more because I like to have more stopping power. Wouldn't we need something that packs more punch and knockdown power?
Knockdown/Stopping power is kind of a myth, sure you can knock down bowling pins, but people don't get knocked over, they usually fall toward the direction they were heading after being shot and end up face down. It really comes down to blood loss and organ damage. More bullets = more holes = more damage. Hence the 9mm variant of an iconic .45 caliber weapon. IMHO
Yes. In a life and death situation, seconds count. You need to stop your adversary immediately before he could get a chance to shoot, stab or slice you in half with his machete. The 45 ACP was designed to do just that.
Great comparison. Thanks!
Love 1911s Ive got a nickel plated one that i have for display and a Springfield V10 with the 3.5" barrel. I bought a Glock 19 recently as a potential replacement for the V10 as its a very similar size, but its just so bland. It does the job, but Glocks have no character in comparison to a well made 1911.
I know a good trigger kit for the Glock would make it crisp, but I just dont want to sink anymore money into the Glock. I only bought it in the first place so I could have a Glock in my collection. A lot of money to spend for pointless bragging rights 😂😂😂
I have to agree. The second pistol I ever bought was a Colt Combat Commander & even stock it ruined me on every other pistol out there on trigger pull. I currently have a $400 RIA that STILL beats every stock Glock or near stock Glock trigger I have EVER handled. 1911 is Still unbeaten champ on trigger pull vs the world.
@@8166PC1 I'm on about the handling and general characteristics of the pistol. Glocks are very bland, utilitarian and only made for doing the job reliably. Im not in life and death situations like Police and Military where I'm gonna need something like that, hence why I prefer 1911's. Glock triggers feel shit, that have nothing to do with my opinion of the accuracy..
Wow. Random off topic post.
@@BladePressure Well not totally, is it? Still on the topic of 1911s which the video is about. If that isn't good enough for you, I apologise Mr Stalin the great Dictator
Considering getting a 1911 but can’t decide between 9mm or 45. 9mm because it’s a cheaper round and the one I have the most experience with but the 45 cause America 🦅
Always felt the .40 would have been an optimal round for the 1911 platform. 10mm is my favorite cal but the length of it gives the 1911 fits with consistent feeding.
1911 & 45! Nuff Said!!
Oh, no no no! H&K USP in 45 Auto, my friend!! ;-)
Vickers Tactical : For My Personal Self Defense Needs, I Will Only Use The .45 ACP M1911A1 As I Used In The Marine Corps Back In The Late 80s .
The 1911 in .45 has and will always be my heartthrob I have a para ordinance black ops single stack and I trust it with my life.
However if I had the chance to get a wilson combat in 9mm or 10mm I wouldn't turn it away
I agree, Wilson Combat was a little out of my league. But I am swooning over this new Dan Wesson 9mm that I just bought.
What they made a 45 ACP?
I (still) be rocking the 45 Colt!
The “Taylor Knock Out Index”: Velocity (in fps) x Weight (in grains) x Diameter (in inches) = _ divided by 7,000 [to convert into foot pounds of energy].
9mm: [1901 AD] (Original)
Standard P - 1180 x 115 x .355 = 48,173.5 divided by 7,000 = 6.88 ft pd
Underwood Ammo 9mm:
Standard P - 1300 x 115 x .355 = 53,072.5 divided by 7000 = 7.58 ft pd
+P - 1100 x 147 x .355 = 57,403.5 divided by 7000 = 8.2 ft pd
+P+ - 1550 x 90 x .355 = 49,522.5 divided by 7000 = 7.07 ft pd - (?)
Notice how big and slow is better than little and faster every time? Well now, it ain’t just what she said anymore!
And on that note -
45 ACP: [1904 AD]
Standard P - 835 x 230 x .451 = 86,614.55 divided by 7,000 = 12.37 ft pd
Underwood Ammo 45 ACP:
+P - 925 x 255 x .452 = 106,615.5 divided by 7000 = 15.23 ft pd
Fools Figure, but Figures don't Fool! Which now leads us to the Facts -
45 Colt: [1872 AD] (Original)
Standard P - 1000 x 235 x .456 = 107,160 divided by 7,000 = 15.3 ft pd Original
Underwood Ammo 45 Colt:
Standard P - 1000 x 250 x .452 = 113,000 divided by 7,000 = 16.14 ft pd - Xtreme Penetrator
+P - 1400 x 250 x .452 = 158,200 divided by 7,000 = 22.6ft pd - Xtreme Penetrator +P
This is the results of big getting faster. So, "faster can be goods so long as size is not compromised!" And I quoted her on that.
[Liberty Ammunition 45 Colt:
Standard P - 1800 x 78 x .452 = 63,460.8 divided by 7,000 = 9.0658 ft pd - Civil Defense
Showing little going fast is just that, and nothing more!]
+P - 1325 x 325 x .452 = 194,642.5 divided by 7,000 = 27.8 ft pd - Long Flat Nose Gas Check Hi-Tek Coated Hard Cast +P
This is the results of big getting bigger! As so did her eyes!
Standard P - 900 x 220 x .452 = 89,496 divided by 7,000 = 12.785 ft pd - Maximum Expansion (before it expands)
Standard P - 900 x 220 x 1.75 = 346,500 divided by 7,000 = 49.5 ft pd - Maximum Expansion (after it expands)
This is the results of big becoming HUGE! At this point she was speechless(?).
Anything 1911 well not just anything but the platform is awesome
I've got two of your Vickers Elite Duty Mags I had 3 but gave one to a buddy. I have had zero malfunctions with them in my Colt Lightweight Commander .45.
Thanks!
@@VickersTacticalLAV MP
Guessing Wilson will be dropping the Vickers line in light of recent events (Oct 2023)....
I LIKE your Extractor Tension Test!
The first 1911 i built was in 45acp
Great stuff Larry!!
Great video especially love the background music really made it easy to watch
Prison guards in my town talk to a lot of inmates. There are lots of them who tell stories about being shot by a 9mm.....some of them, multiple times. I haven't heard of any of them telling stories about being shot by a .45acp.
So there is really no much difference in lethal power between those two, both will penetrate or over penetrate the aggressor, I think that people get caught up in tiny differences in grams and millimeters when they should be focusing on hitting the target. If you shoot someone in the heart or any other vital organ, does not make any difference if it´s 9mm or 45.
Diggin the desperado music
I wouldn't throw either out of bed sort of speak. Have several 45 I'm still working on the 9mm but it's going to happen soon. And you have to clean them can't go to the range several times and not clean this pistol. And I won't use steel case anything aluminum yes have been running that for competition for the last three years and have had zero issues with the aluminum rounds. Still shoot brass when I can get it in bulk. Both of these are very nice and worth the money.
Love me a good 1911 but five seven gang for life
@Ben Woodcock yep lmao