High Standard Supermatic Citation
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- Опубліковано 8 жов 2023
- The High Standard Supermatic Citation Model 104 from 1963 is next on the workbench in the Milsurp Garage. A .22 Long Rifle chambered semi-automatic target pistol, the Supermatic Citation is just one example of the numerous High Standard offerings in this category built with excellent fit and finish and supreme quality.
My knowledge on these is limited and my shooting range footage was corrupted with the range now under renovation so I do my best here but didn't even scratch the surface on how cool these are.
We MUST revisit at the range for a full video of it in action. Stay tuned!
They are truly old world hi quality craftsmanship. I learned about 10yrs ago. I can never seem to find one with its original box, kit & paperwork. Not that I’m looking, just never see one that way. The 4 I have are a 1956 Olympic in .22 short, Supermatic Citation Military with fluted 7”+ Bull barrel button take down from 1974, another Supermatic Citation Military SH X Model with flat side bull barrel from 1982, and a 1967 Trophy. CCi Standard & Quiet semi auto they do well with however ELEY Contact & Standard they really group tightly with. They really are true to the name, A Hi Standard 😉!
Great video & History, I love to learn about the maker, he was truly an amazing craftsman. The triggers on mine are adjustable & absolutely amazing. Like my Colt Woodsman Match Target series ll & S&W 41 & 17-3 k22 8,3/8” Target Masterpiece. The magazines are part of the cartridge feed on mine so I have learned to handle them nicely so they run as they should. Keep that in mind if you experience feed issues.
My dad bought a model 104 in 1963, year before I was born:). He blew up the bull barrel at the shooting tournament, went to the Hi Standard tent and they gave him the 8” fluted barrel. I have it now, still looks brand new. Fantastic pistol!!!
Nice. One question, how the hell do you blow up a bull barrel?
@@MilsurpGarage no idea, dad never told me how but have the fluted on it ever since. Leaving it to my 23 yr w daughter who loves to shoot.
Ive always been intrigued by Hi Powers. Neve owned one, yet.
I have to say I have enjoyed your info videos for years.
Very cool and ive learned alot.
Thanks
Nice of you to say......thanks for tuning in.
Thank you for sharing.
Appreciate it. Glad to have you.
U2 Pilot (Captain) Gary Powers had one of the silenced high standards in his survival tool kit. It influenced silencer design in the ussr, as they apparently were quite impressed with it.
OSS baby.
I am in Australia and have just purchased a High Standard Sharpshooter_M, Number ML 49653, excellent condition, at time of writing haven't sighted it in, very happy with it so far, thanks for the video.
Glad to see you guys can own .22 pistols…..for now.
I also have a 104 and prefer that grip angle to the newer models. I bought a new magazine from Brownells ( order a 'slant grip' style for the 104). It wouldnt feed reliably until slightly bending the front of the feed lips (tighter) so that the nose of the bullet is just barely above them. I found an obscure old magazine article online that gave the width meaurement in thousandths of an inch for the feed lips. It now works like the original factory mag, but is not of the same overall fit and finish. Its a bit harder to load, now it feeds correctly. Brownells had a new recoil spring for it too - which is a bit fussy to install - so be patient and dont wreck a beautiful target pistol!!! Mine shoots like a dream and I will never sell it.
I bought a Supermatic Citation model 106 Military in 1977 for $135. I've never had a bit of trouble with it. Beautiful crisp trigger, great balance and the most accurate pistol I have ever had. You won't find them at that price anymore but if you get a chance to buy one think hard before you walk away from it. They will only get harder to find as the years go by and this kind of quality will only go up in value.
They certainly have a huge collector following. Thanks for tuning in!
Good, thx
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My first handgun was an R-101 nickel Sentinel. Over the years I’ve tried to collect every model. I have most except the GB. Well, all the Hamdens anyway. I’ve also acquired the S&W 41s in the different barrel lengths. And…all the Woodsman models. I cherish them all but I agree with you…the slant grips over the the military and the push button over the lever take downs.
Sounds like an awesome collection.
Just got the Military model of this . 1911 style grips. I think I need to replace the recoil spring the firearm has over 20k rounds through it. Great video as usual
Thanks.
I have a model 103 citation with an 8” and 10” barrel. I also have a supermatic trophy military with the same barrel as your citation.
I would like to get another barrel just for kicks. I saw one that looked like a Buck Rogers barrel. Would that fit and what is the model number or name to look it up? What barrel would you suggest I get to compliment the one I have?
Both my barrels on my 103 are the buck rogers looking ones. They would definitely work on your gun. Unfortunately I don’t know the barrel model numbers
Amazing I Have The Same Pistol 😀😊😀 Made in 1960’s My Uncle Won It and 1st Place in The Timed Fire and Rapid Fire Categories I’ve Also Got The Medals in Plexiglass With The Pistol in It 😀😊😀 High Standard Was The Only Pistol Shot By Lt Col William McMillian Won A Medal in The Olympics 😮😀😊 There Some of The Finest Target Pistols Ever Made 😀
Now THAT’S a fine endorsement.
Yesterday I bought a Citation of 1974 vintage. Having trouble with feeding on my first range session. But man what great condition. $599.00.
Is it the original mag or aftermarket?
@@MilsurpGarage That is a great question. I really don't know.
@@125saito These pistols are known for their smooth action and precise function. Aftermarket mags are notorious for the opposite.
Please only use standard velocity ammo in it. Hi velocity will eventually crack the frame
I use CCI Standard Velocity or Quiet .22 LR almost exclusively in every .22 except revolvers. Still hasn't stopped things from breaking! (Reising)
Iv'e been lucky though with that area and have learned to stay away from "hot" ammo regardless of caliber.
I have a friend who reloads and always goes to the limit in the book....and prides himself on it.....then complains about all the "junk" for sale out these when he breaks guns.
People will be people....some beat on cars, some care for them....
I also reload, I always start at the bottom of the “safe” load. Rarely do I need to go hotter. Great job on the video!
Got a H.S. SMC model 3 Space Gun excellent .22's...... be well.
I want one of those barrels. My disintegrator gun...... What’d a ya know.....it disintegrated.
Very interesting, I recall when I was shooting on a US Navy pistol team (long ago) the High Standards were the king if the hill except for the S&W model 41, I have always been interested in them. but never found a decent used one at a reasonable price. I believe after the company went out of business, there was manufacturing in Texas by a separate group, but the original quality was never attained.
Being an older firearm, can you get replacement parts if needed?
Yes, as they were very popular and still have a huge following. Not cheap though......
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@@MilsurpGarageI got replacement springs from Brownells, and a magazine (slant grip not military grip) there too. and from time to time I see extractors and firing pins on ebay. so yes, common wear parts are available. replacement magazines frequently need to have the feed lips adjusted to quite narrow, so that the nose of the bullet appears very low. once that is done, they will feed correctly. just do Not feed hot ammo ever through these. they are meant for standard velocity target rounds, and are a delight on the firing line.
The Screw For the Trigger Pull is On Right Side of Frame The Screw on The Rear of The Slide is For Recoil Spring Adjustment For Shooting Different Power Target Loads So It Will Still Cycle Normally My Trigger Is Silver and a Model 103 Supermatic Citation
You sure?
www.histandard.info/manuals/lpbpistols/0277D150R.pdf
ASSEMBLY AND LOADING
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@@MilsurpGarage You May Be Right It’s Been a Long Time Since I’ve Only Ever Adjusted It Once 20 Years ago Now I’m Thinking I’m Backwards What Does It Call The Flat Bladed Screw By The Trigger Guard on The Frame On The Right Side Maybe That’s The Recoil Adjustment The Breakdown in This Is Only The Left Side of Frame
@@MilsurpGarage Mine is also a Model 103 Might Be Slightly Different
I don't have a screw on the right side.....
The manual for the model 103 shows the screw on the rear of the frame to do the same thing as the 104.....trigger stiffness adjustment. For what it's worth......it doesn't seem to have much of an effect, if any, when I turn it.
I am looking for a magazine for mine
My advice, be sure to get an original HS mag.....aftermarket will be easier to find, cheaper, and they will try to market it as an original so be careful.
They are nice pistols. First auto pistol I ever had was a nickel model 103 Sport King. On the down side, our local gun smiths all say that they are a dirty little bitch to try to work on if something goes wrong with them.
Seems like every job is described like that by every gunsmith.....they are a dramatic bunch.
@@MilsurpGarage I think they really mean it on the Hi-Standards. At least the old early 50s Hi-Standards. I have a HD Military that has developed headspace problems. Most of the time it takes 2 firing pin hits to get a round to go off. At first I thought it was a firing pin problem. But it turned out to not be that simple.
Of the 3 local gunsmiths we had at the time, none of them even wanted to try working on it.
Read this….
www.rimfirecentral.com/threads/light-primer-strikes.513771/
I have a 103 Citation and it is a dream to shoot now. It's an old dog, so I replaced all the springs in it. It does not like some ammo! I did find an obscure printout of how to adjust the magazine lips to factory standard. And - got a replacment mag (maybe from Brownells) - after adjusting to spec, now works great. Depending on how dirty the ammo is, I have to clean the chamber/barrel about every 1000 rounds. You can get suspicious light primer strikes as mentioned in comment below. Brownells does have springs and some parts for these magnificent pistols.
It appears that your takedown button did not return all the way out when you reassembled it.
Thanks....it was locked in but not fully returned, you're right. A little jiggle and it popped out. That's a pretty robust locking system.....seems like it is connecting a trailer hitch for goodness sake!