Board Wipe Tier List for Commander | Which Board Wipes are the Best?

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  • We're ranking the most played board wipes in the format, tier-list style! Which wrath effects will make it to the coveted "S" tier and which ones are stuck in the "Poop" tier? You have to watch to find out!
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  • @Grooove_e
    @Grooove_e 2 роки тому +153

    Farewell is easily an S tier board wipe. The fact of having the choice of any number of the 4 options is what pushes it there

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  2 роки тому +40

      I love farewell! I think beezy is crazy comparing it to austere command

    • @mayonnaiseablaze9745
      @mayonnaiseablaze9745 2 роки тому +10

      @@NitpickingNerds EXACTLY! It’s nothing like austere command! Four choices AND exile for the same price! It’s no contest!

    • @siobhangraham7280
      @siobhangraham7280 2 роки тому +4

      YEP.
      Each of the four things it hits are relevant, and widely enough relevant that at least one is always going to be nice to have.
      And the ability to tailor it to as many as you want is just amazing.
      Add to that it sends things to exile, this is an S tier board wipe

    • @mayonnaiseablaze9745
      @mayonnaiseablaze9745 2 роки тому +1

      @@siobhangraham7280 factor in that it is 6 mana

    • @siobhangraham7280
      @siobhangraham7280 2 роки тому +2

      @@mayonnaiseablaze9745 Yeah I know the cost. That doesn't make it bad - the best board wipe around is 7 CMC.
      There's a lot of rocks in EDH that really smooth out mana, and make 6 CMC not a big deal

  • @chasm9557
    @chasm9557 2 роки тому +135

    I personally really like In Garruk's Wake. It's one-sided but still feels fair in low power levels because of the high mana cost, and money-wise it's affordable with my very limited disposable income.

    • @elipetrou9308
      @elipetrou9308 2 роки тому +7

      It’s cool in low power

    • @chas3btha1
      @chas3btha1 2 роки тому

      OIC....

    • @yotemanjohnson3875
      @yotemanjohnson3875 2 роки тому +2

      I like to cast it for 2 mana with titans nest and giggle as my friends scoop their cards

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  2 роки тому +16

      9 mana is just too much in our opinion. I never play that card personally

    • @starchaser6024
      @starchaser6024 2 роки тому

      Way too much mana

  • @vitormaione3797
    @vitormaione3797 2 роки тому +49

    I really missed Hour of Revelation. A 3 mana destroy all boardwipe seems very good.

    • @noobtuber10
      @noobtuber10 2 роки тому +1

      Hour of rev is great tbh

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  2 роки тому +3

      It is great especial in control list!

    • @arbunckle
      @arbunckle 2 роки тому

      agree!! this card is so insane, cheap, and very underplayed IMO

    • @Uefeti
      @Uefeti 2 роки тому

      Imho, the Hour is Strange, because it’s hard to play around it.
      Wrath’s are really good, then they are in some way asymmetrical, its not a good idea to waste a turn, solving the board problem. Just to allow your opponents to rebuild first.
      For example, Creature-Wrath’s are good, when your board is not that-affected by them (if your commander is prismatic bridge, theros gods, planeswalkers etc), while your opponent board is.
      I’d personally run Hour in some heavy-Landfall list’s, simply because it doesn’t harm my mana, while destroying opponents mana rocks and dorks.
      But i don’t really see any other place to run it

    • @fdtori
      @fdtori 2 роки тому +1

      Hour of Revelation is better than a lot of the board wipes on this list... 3 mana only almost guarantees you're the first one out of the gates or you can plan ahead and respond to it to make it one sided... I think they are trolling a bit with these lists by missing cards on purpose lol.

  • @jasonlevesque6340
    @jasonlevesque6340 2 роки тому +33

    And I gotta disagree. Meathook Massacre is amazing. It's an average at best boardwipe, but it's an enchantment. You can play it and not kill anything and it will still do a lot.

    • @MareczqZglos
      @MareczqZglos 2 роки тому

      But it cost a lot - you need to spend like 7-10 mana to board-wipe all.

    • @mjvane46
      @mjvane46 2 роки тому +2

      Say that again, but slowly...its an average...at best...boardwipe...
      Its a boardwipe review...

    • @morgoth2425
      @morgoth2425 2 роки тому

      as a boardwipe its not the best, as a blood artist effect, it's pretty good. both together makes it a bit nuts. i'm surprised they didnt put massacre girl on the list. fantastic boardwipe imo

    • @Lawler50431
      @Lawler50431 2 роки тому +1

      Yes, in Aristocrat style decks where you're sacrificing alot anyways. Which was their point: in decks that can take advantage of everything it offers to the fullest (like Aristocrat decks) it's probably A-S tier. But they're looking at its inclusion as a boardwipe in ANY deck that can run it, which drags it down a bit since there'll be decks that can't use it to the fullest and it becomes a high costed boardwipe, and so they gave it a B (which is still very good, I mean look at the company it's keeping there).
      And note they still rated it the best X mana cost boardwipe.

    • @twostepz4982
      @twostepz4982 2 роки тому

      It’s expensive. And, if players can’t stop most would scoop unless player can bounce back.

  • @sharpie11112
    @sharpie11112 2 роки тому +75

    I think Verdict is underrated by you guys because, yes any spell can be countered. But specifically in EDH, board wipes are pretty much the premier target for counterspells, especially for the player in the lead. A board wipe being uncounterable comes up a lot more often because more players would want those kinds of cards countered.

    • @FlowBerni
      @FlowBerni 2 роки тому

      Well a boardwipe can actually benefitor hurt more then 1 player, a targeted removal is against one player, I think that's also a reason why you don't see targeted removal get countered that often. Because not everyone cares.

    • @moonlandersgames
      @moonlandersgames 2 роки тому +4

      Supreme Verdict's niche is if the deck with counterspells is somehow running away with creatures, or a control player is out to get you killed. Most of the time when a control player is at the table unless they need one of their creatures for a future combo is more then happy to let a boardwipe resolve instead of countering it.

    • @jaredwright1655
      @jaredwright1655 2 роки тому

      Highly doubt the deck playing counterspells is going to have a board state thats better than someone else. Maybe Kykar (the bird that makes tokens on spell cast) would counter a board wile, but really, what other popular deck has an abundance of creatures and counterspells

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  2 роки тому +4

      We rated the card at B which I think is fair considering it is pretty standard in that it is 4 mana destroy all creatures:

    • @ArleighUnchained
      @ArleighUnchained 2 роки тому +2

      Missed the mark. Supreme Verdict wins as many games as Cyc Rift because it's uncounterable.

  • @ConstanceMists
    @ConstanceMists 2 роки тому +46

    Living Death, Evacuation, and Great Aurora were a few notable cards missing from this that Id be curious on your rankings. Notably because I play Great Aurora in my lands deck because of a video where you guys talked about it. Also I know you guys loooove living death and so do I, it always overperforms whenever I cast it

    • @dougfile6644
      @dougfile6644 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah. 100% agree that Living Death and Evacuation should have been on here.
      I don't really see The Great Aurora as a board wipe though

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  2 роки тому +9

      Living death is amazing! Being a wincon and a boardwipe

  • @sw33tshar3
    @sw33tshar3 2 роки тому +19

    As an Avacyn player I love how basically every set adds a white boardwipe

    • @Halsfield
      @Halsfield 2 роки тому +4

      I'm just waiting for a white "unable to be exiled" card to stop all these new exiling boardwipes like indestructible used to help with.

    • @rileyselman1312
      @rileyselman1312 2 роки тому +3

      @@Halsfield Teferi’s Protection

    • @V2ULTRAKill
      @V2ULTRAKill 2 роки тому

      @@Halsfield I'll still rift it

  • @mfitkin
    @mfitkin 2 роки тому +25

    Cleansing nova’s niche is now creature-heavy decks with green and white that don’t rely on many artifacts/enchantments. I’ve got it in my Kyler deck right now and I think that’s it. I’ve probably chosen the second mode half the time there.

    • @emerson685
      @emerson685 2 роки тому +3

      Agreed! I play a lot of Selesnya and Bant and I actually think it's very powerful in those decks. Basically any deck I'd put Collector Ouphe in, I'd play Cleansing Nova.

    • @joe.5103
      @joe.5103 2 роки тому

      Ngl, that still doesn’t sound super great. You’re already playing Farewell and Austere command?

    • @chrysalistening
      @chrysalistening 2 роки тому

      @@emerson685 Stop the artifact nonsense! Collector Ouphe/Null Rod 2024

    • @mfitkin
      @mfitkin 2 роки тому +2

      @@joe.5103 yes to austere command, no to farewell. I’ve got vanquish the horde in there as the only other wipe. Farewell I just put in Osgir because it has 0 enchantments and I can sac my board before exiling everyone else’s, but not sure I want it anywhere else. The best thing it does is exiling graveyards but I usually want to keep my own graveyard, so I’ll stick to hating graveyards other ways that can pinpoint or just hit opponents

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  2 роки тому +1

      @@mfitkin well I think osgir is a bad place for it as you play a lot of artifacts

  • @22freedom33
    @22freedom33 2 роки тому +62

    Toxic Deluge, Cyclonic Rift, Blasphemous Act, those will always be the top 3 in Commander

    • @ReoRayearth27
      @ReoRayearth27 2 роки тому +7

      Now to add Vanquish the Hoard to that list, an arguably better B-Act.

    • @giannibrannan4423
      @giannibrannan4423 2 роки тому +2

      @@ReoRayearth27 I think B-Act has more options to be one sided. Teferi's, Heroic intervention, and Akroma's Will stop both of them, but you can play around with stuff like vigor, overwhelming stampede, craterhoof, or similar effects to make it more of a one sided board wipe where as VTH is just destroy.

    • @MCvicRPG
      @MCvicRPG 2 роки тому +2

      Just wait untill they print a boardwipe that also lets you tutor for something and gains you 20 life for 3 mana. On instant speed ofcourse.

    • @fatboySRK
      @fatboySRK 2 роки тому

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    • @singularleaf3895
      @singularleaf3895 2 роки тому

      Cyclonic, isn't that good, it's more often then not just a win more card.

  • @gold_me
    @gold_me 2 роки тому +7

    I feel like by invitation only is one of those underrated board wipes because of the way it's interpreted. When you cast the card most people try to use that time on the stack to sacrifice their field to help their boardstate afterwards. But that means you don't even need to boardwipe anymore cause your opponents did it for you! Then you can sit back and relax, and watch the table get salty as you choose zero and keep your board.

    • @supremecourt4131
      @supremecourt4131 2 місяці тому

      Never thought about that - this is straight up genius

  • @kingginger3335
    @kingginger3335 2 роки тому +3

    So, I was watching your Tier list of EDH staples like an hour ago, and I left a comment saying, "we need more tier lists", and my wish was your command. Thank you for reading my future mind when you recorded this segment 🙌 🙏

  • @OnboardG1
    @OnboardG1 2 роки тому +7

    I have a fondness for Necromantic Selection. It’s very expensive but you can save your best creature (or your opponent’s best creature) and use it to get a head start on rebuilding. Saving a commander that costs four mana (which would actually cost six if it gets CZd) suddenly makes the res effect really useful.

    • @youngnikos9625
      @youngnikos9625 2 роки тому +2

      It's such a great card. Wiping the board and stealing your opponent's commander feels so good.

  • @BatCaveOz
    @BatCaveOz Рік тому +3

    As someone returning to MTG after 25 years... this list made me so happy... I love board wipes.

  • @macoelectrum4193
    @macoelectrum4193 2 роки тому

    This was a fun birthday video. Thanks guys 🤘

  • @tab021
    @tab021 2 роки тому

    Yesss!! Tier lists are always amazing!

  • @barrietomilson8796
    @barrietomilson8796 2 роки тому +5

    Planar collapse has been a sleeper hit for me. So good with enchantment synergies, makes your opponents plays really awkward if you can get it down early enough so it doesn't trigger, love it

    • @basicpigeonbee
      @basicpigeonbee Рік тому

      It's also hilarious with hall

    • @bart_ender6116
      @bart_ender6116 Рік тому

      Love planar collapse especially with graveyard retrieval

  • @BigDrew49
    @BigDrew49 2 роки тому +1

    Nice work as always guys....and just in time for me to start brewing my Zangief deck full of wipes (and PWs)

  • @BurnByMoonlight
    @BurnByMoonlight 2 роки тому +2

    No love for Descend Upon the Sinful? Exile-board wipe and get a (chunky) body after if you have delirium.

  • @07dmacari1103
    @07dmacari1103 2 роки тому +6

    I love resolving Ezuri's Predation while Vigor is out.

    • @willstebbins5338
      @willstebbins5338 2 роки тому

      This is a win con in my Adrix and Nev, Twincasters deck- makes Ezuri’s Predation even better when you get double the tokens from A/N’s trigger, you can stack the triggers so that only the first half that resolve even have to fight, and then Vigor on top of it?! Please. Follow that up with an End Raze Forerunners and nobody is stopping you

    • @jaredhuckstep20
      @jaredhuckstep20 2 роки тому +2

      Ezuri' Predation while Terror of the Peaks is out is also glorious

    • @timbombadil4046
      @timbombadil4046 2 роки тому

      Or Garruk's Packleader. So much draw.

  • @elliotthood1719
    @elliotthood1719 2 роки тому +3

    A note on Chandra’s ignition, it’s got crazy synergy with lifelink, deathtouch, curiosity effects, aegar the freezing flame, etc…

  • @NoobN00b
    @NoobN00b 2 роки тому +11

    I play All is Dust in my Eldrazi deck. But outside of that I would have a hard time finding a home for it.

    • @Halsfield
      @Halsfield 2 роки тому

      I have a colorless deck built around ghirapur that likes all is dust.

    • @jaredhuckstep20
      @jaredhuckstep20 2 роки тому

      It's a boss in tergrid

    • @Euphorb1um
      @Euphorb1um 2 роки тому +1

      That is mono red enchantment removal.

    • @lordflashheart3741
      @lordflashheart3741 2 роки тому

      It's pretty damn useful in all variants of the Grixis colours. You know, where good mass removal might be hard to find, especially against enchantments.

    • @skirtsftw
      @skirtsftw 2 роки тому

      I play it on omnath locust of mana and kruphix god of horizons. It's great in both

  • @randymotter51
    @randymotter51 2 роки тому +5

    Meathook is fine because you can tune its power down if you want to keep your stuff alive at that moment or just kill specific things like weak token spam, and even without the wipe for just two mana you are getting an enchantment that functions similarly to other two mana aristocrat pieces like Blood Artist or Zulaport Cutthroat. Still a solid card for the mana cost if you don't care how expensive it is. I think of it less as a boardwipe centric card and more of an aristocrat piece with optional boardwipe capacity when needed or wanted. Plan to get one for my Beledros deck, it would just add to the fun (and because he can turn its power up in a pinch, so it goes well with him).

    • @stfinalwrath
      @stfinalwrath 2 роки тому

      I think Meathook Massacre is honestly deserving of it's price tag, as it's just as good as toxic deluge if not better in black decks, where producing 40 black mana in a turn is pretty common at higher power level tables. And it has the aristocrat effect stapled on making it even better. If you don't have the life to pay then toxic deluge is a dead card in hand, but meathook will never be a dead card as long as one builds their deck correctly with plenty of mana efficiency. I run meathook in my Meren and every single time I've cast meathook, it's won the game. Every. Single. Time. It's such a good card. It got it's price tag not just because of standard, but because it's an incredibly powerful board wipe that sticks around and provides an extra effect. It's so good. 😆

  • @riverswater5688
    @riverswater5688 2 роки тому

    I just noticed that this is the most agreeable both of y’all have been to each other, haha. I enjoyed the concessions and compromises :)

  • @PawzBrownMTG
    @PawzBrownMTG 2 роки тому

    This is a great tier guys keep these lists going they are great

  • @LightningStryke27
    @LightningStryke27 2 роки тому +3

    A little surprised that the list wasn't broken down more. Cards like Duneblast, Doomsday, Blood on the Snow, Hour of Revelation, In Garruk's Wake, etc. I mean you included Fumigate.

  • @Cfeeney
    @Cfeeney 2 роки тому +1

    Hi there! I just saw your channel and have been binging all of your content, thank you for sharing all of this information. I am a huge fan!
    One of the videos, I just saw was the tier list of tribes. I am wondering if you could do a tier list within those tribes? Like for zombies who would you go with?

  • @JonReid01
    @JonReid01 2 роки тому

    Tier lists are my favorite of your videos.

  • @MummiPazuzu
    @MummiPazuzu 2 роки тому

    Meat hook massacre has only found a home in one of my decks: The Grismold deck that two nerds told me to build. (It's really fun to play, thank you guys)
    This video introduced some board wipes I didn't even know existed. I swear, every time I watch one of your videos I end up having to update my deck lists.

  • @jheu781
    @jheu781 2 роки тому +3

    You left, "Last One Standing" off the list. 3 mana board wipe with a slight down side.

  • @MikeTheElderMillennial
    @MikeTheElderMillennial 2 роки тому +1

    Hey, I love your channel - thanks for the awesome info! As an old 4th Edition / Ice Age player returning to the game to play with my son, it really helps to hear you two go back and forth on the relative value of the cards, the play strategies, build strategies, etc. Also the ‘nitpicking’ on every detail is purely entertaining.
    I have one suggestion that if you would consider doing it would make your channel a lot easier for us returning players to use. You make passing reference to a LOT of cards without showing them on screen, which means I need a second device always in hand to look up the cards you’re talking about. It’s funny because in this video, you actually took the time to put most of the cards on screen (at least the ones you were reviewing at that second), but throughout the video you took the cards down before you were done talking about them, so I’m having to constantly stop the video and go back a few second and pause to read (or re-read) the fine details of the card wording that you are commenting on. Would love to see you guys keep doing what you’re dining but anytime you refer to a card or a specific magic term, keep those details on screen!! Again, love what you’re doing!!

  • @-HASH
    @-HASH 2 роки тому +1

    👌❤ Love the video. Isn't Blood on the Snow good for Mono Black? A revival jutsu for creatures and any Liliana you might have laying around plus a boardwipe at the same time? It seems worthwhile to test it out.

  • @bfeldz1023
    @bfeldz1023 2 роки тому +10

    Meathook's price makes me sad. I'm really hoping that after it rotates out the price crashes so I can finally run it in my budget Teysa deck.

    • @spideysquestionablyusedcha5069
      @spideysquestionablyusedcha5069 2 роки тому

      Its 100% tanking after it rotates out of standard, its price rn is because its one of the best black wipes they have atm. Im just gonna wait till then and instant buy.

    • @CodeIguana
      @CodeIguana 2 роки тому +2

      @@spideysquestionablyusedcha5069 I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm curious how much standard really drives paper prices, since my understanding is standard is dead in paper. Is this being used in other formats maybe?

    • @spideysquestionablyusedcha5069
      @spideysquestionablyusedcha5069 2 роки тому

      @@CodeIguana Maybe so yeah, but im not too sure myself. Meathook is a great card, but as they state, not a 50$ card. In commander, black has many better board wipes, so i'd play it for the enchantment effects really, and idk about other formats, given commander is the most popular by far. Its so perplexing.

    • @masterale10
      @masterale10 2 роки тому +1

      do you have a decklist on teysa karlov to check out?

    • @Grooove_e
      @Grooove_e 2 роки тому +2

      It's amazing in modern too, I have a Modern deck that uses a brutal combination of Scute Swarm and Meathook Massacre. I predict that the value will hold

  • @XenoFireStar
    @XenoFireStar 2 роки тому +1

    Blasphemous act is my favorite board wipe of all time, but I might be biased because I play Ill-Tempered Loner. Wasiest way to make a board wipe into a win-con, and a great deterrent to others at the table.

    • @Clepto_and_Co
      @Clepto_and_Co 2 роки тому

      I'm here looking for good board wipes for nethroi. I get all my 0/0 etb with +1/+1 counters back anyways so why not destroy my stuff to destroy everything

  • @florivo2549
    @florivo2549 2 роки тому +2

    TERMINUS is my personal favorite in Aminatou, Miracle make it so good at one mana to get rid of everything.

  • @TheRawred
    @TheRawred 2 роки тому +1

    What would you say Consuming Tide is on the tier list? I'm trying to decide if I want to replace Supreme Verdict with it as a form of enchantment/artifact removal too, plus it can draw you up to 3 cards.

    • @rileyselman1312
      @rileyselman1312 2 роки тому

      Letting opponents pick for themselves is rough, but this card is really cool! I’ve never seen it before.

  • @phillipjo2131
    @phillipjo2131 2 роки тому +4

    Farewell is A+ to me- exile gets around indestructible and also has graveyard hate. Super friends? Choose all modes. Enchantments - All modes but enchantments. Creature deck and taxes got you down- choose all modes except creature.
    Have won with this card a dozen times already

    • @markasa6623
      @markasa6623 2 роки тому +1

      Farewell is A+/S - in my book.

  • @pumpkintime362
    @pumpkintime362 Рік тому

    Any suggestions for board wipes if I'm making a sliver commander deck?

  • @joe.5103
    @joe.5103 2 роки тому

    Have you guys made any dedicated videos on aggro commanders? I would appreciate a video specificity building around some aggro commanders, but a theory based one is also cool.

  • @morgoth2425
    @morgoth2425 2 роки тому +3

    My favorite boardwipes are the ones you cast from the command zone. child of alara and nevinyrral are crazy good especially with command beacon effects 😈

  • @apeturez1629
    @apeturez1629 2 роки тому

    Hey guys great video as always! I had a suggestion for shuffle scuffle maybe you guys could play Commander Cube on an episode I'd love to see that personally!

  • @robertbengel2689
    @robertbengel2689 2 роки тому +1

    You guys are right about Tragic Arrogance. I've been running it since magic origins, and I think I might've seen two whole other games since then where someone else used it

  • @matthewdavis7869
    @matthewdavis7869 2 роки тому +1

    I play time wipe and my yorion deck and it’s GREAT there. I want a way to retrigger the ETB anyways so bouncing it to my hand, destroying everything, and eventually replaying it to flicker all of my artifacts and enchantments is awesome

  • @brandoncreek5709
    @brandoncreek5709 2 роки тому +2

    I use Winds of Abandon, even though it's not that great. Essentially the fact that it exiles everything that's not yours, presumably you use it when you know you can win that turn.

  • @AndiParkour
    @AndiParkour 2 роки тому +3

    All is dust is great in helping out mono colored decks as well. To deal with stuff they normally cant deal with.

  • @BigIrish92
    @BigIrish92 2 роки тому

    Great list! I will be adding 3 cards from this to my boros deck.
    Two other wipes I thought about. What do you guys rate Obliterate and Doomskar. Don't think they made the list. We see Doomskar all the time in standard, and Obliterate cant work wonders with good timing.
    Another one I thought of that I currently use is Winds of abandon.

  • @jarendavidson5758
    @jarendavidson5758 2 роки тому

    NEW NITPICKING NERDS VIDEO!

  • @zilkay6558
    @zilkay6558 Рік тому +1

    10 months later, just built my aristocrats deck with elas-il lot at the helm, and I can't find a the meathook massacre for under $60CAD and it's been banned in standard for almost as long as this video was made. It's such a good card for my deck but I don't want to pay that much for it when it shouldn't be that much. I also run about 6 board wipes as ways to close the game off my death triggers when I don't have sacrifice outlets.

  • @mikem7662
    @mikem7662 2 роки тому

    Tragic Arrogance is a house is so many decks, love it. I'm still pretty high on Austere Command, especially if I'm playing tokens. Good list boys.

  • @Wrokzor
    @Wrokzor 2 роки тому

    how would you rank Hallowed Burial on the tier list? its a 5 mana boardwipe that gets around dies triggers. gets around indestructible, and makes the "destroyed" creatures unable to come back at a later point.

  • @TheCicloChannel
    @TheCicloChannel 2 роки тому +2

    Ezuri's predation sounds like a fun card to add on my Grumgrully deck since it has some cards like Aether Charge and Warstorm Surge so it kinda turns into a win condition if there are enough creatures. Janky as hell but fun

  • @sorbusmortis3222
    @sorbusmortis3222 2 роки тому +1

    I personally love playing with Cataclysm. Its such a fun card and goes great in an Orzhov tergrid deck

  • @titanlord2000
    @titanlord2000 2 роки тому

    Chandra's ignition is amazing and i'm glad joe cherries talked it up. I run it in my Kalamax deck, and forking it on your turn insta wins. It's also great outside of that instance

  • @alexhaenzi
    @alexhaenzi 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the nice birthday wishes :)

  • @Clearwatercollective
    @Clearwatercollective 2 роки тому

    You know the nerds gonna hook it up with a tier list !!

  • @meatrace
    @meatrace 2 роки тому +9

    Guys, Winds of Abandon I'm telling you! Solid B card, and you didn't even rate it? Way better than Merciless Eviction.

    • @randallstanaway7846
      @randallstanaway7846 2 роки тому +1

      I personally think its higher than B. That card has served me well in any deck that runs white.

    • @meatrace
      @meatrace 2 роки тому

      @@randallstanaway7846 I say B because it’s not ideal situationally. When it’s good it’s S, if you have a board state and can take advantage. But if you need a reset and are behind on board you’re probably not helping yourself by ramping everyone else.

  • @joshthompson3140
    @joshthompson3140 2 роки тому

    I've done such a good job over the last 5 years of not being "that guy" when it comes to content videos. I cannot hold it in here...
    Farewell is slam dunk S tier wipe and comparing it to Austere Command (a card that I LOVE!) is INSANITY!
    Fun content and enjoyed the video though!

  • @rexone9564
    @rexone9564 2 роки тому +2

    I appreciate to see Farewell in A tier. it's exceptional.

  • @chiefbedroom553
    @chiefbedroom553 2 роки тому

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

  • @DBanner16
    @DBanner16 2 роки тому +1

    Hour of Revelation almost always gets cast for 3 mana and pulls a lot of weight, and I never see it get mentioned. I've cast it turn 4 to cripple my opponents setup and I've cast it turn 10 to save my butt, it always performs

  • @rrrrjjjj3201
    @rrrrjjjj3201 2 роки тому

    Buddy of mine recently made a locust god deck and crush the weak has come in handy a couple times. Along with aetherspouts

  • @kingginger3335
    @kingginger3335 2 роки тому +1

    Joe is 100% correct about Farewell being miles beyond better than Austere Command. I mean it's not even close. Besides the Exile, what makes it better is it does everything Austere Command can do, except better. Command only hits up to 2 things while Farewell hits up to 4 types and its your choice in combination what to get rid of at the time. You could hit 1 thing or 3 things, or 4 things. The versatility is way beyond better than Command.

  • @jacobcockrell4181
    @jacobcockrell4181 2 роки тому +1

    I would like an hour long Amber supercut.

  • @joshuaadams5511
    @joshuaadams5511 2 роки тому

    Favorite play with cyclonic rift was using its 2 mana to bounce my opponents porphyry that’s sneak attack after he committed about 5 cards to the board.

  • @LeoBHD
    @LeoBHD 2 роки тому +2

    Where would you put hour of revelation?

  • @N0madic
    @N0madic 2 роки тому

    Curious where you'd put Fire Covenant, aka my favourite board wipe

  • @flangwang
    @flangwang 2 роки тому

    Another cool thing about all is dust is that you can get rid of enchantments in colors that struggle with that like mono black or mono red

  • @grillburgerdaq5121
    @grillburgerdaq5121 2 роки тому

    I have a golgari deck with a ton of ramp in it and I run a dread cacodemon as one of my board wipes. It’s basically an in garruk’s wake on an 8/8 stick.

  • @ericd1022
    @ericd1022 2 роки тому

    Thoughts on Oversimplify from Strixhaven? a Simic boardwipe

  • @mattabrams3841
    @mattabrams3841 2 роки тому +1

    It's niche, but Urza's ruinous blast in sisay is quite fun

  • @anonymoushealer1475
    @anonymoushealer1475 2 роки тому

    What about hour of revelation? Its 3 mana planar cleansing alot of the time so you can slam a followup right after

  • @robby6382
    @robby6382 2 роки тому +3

    I really wish you guys mentioned Winds of Abandon, I feel like it is criminally underrated

  • @FKOAOmega
    @FKOAOmega 2 роки тому

    Farewell is in my Atraxa Super Friends deck. It’s awesome.

  • @CecilAlucardX
    @CecilAlucardX 2 роки тому

    I was wondering where you put Oblivion Stone, since any deck of any color can run it (Even green!)

  • @bobanducci9315
    @bobanducci9315 2 роки тому

    Im pooping right now! Your analytics were right!

  • @masterale10
    @masterale10 2 роки тому +8

    I have just started watching, but i imagine mutilate being a B =Buildaround wich is the best qualifier for it, cause you need a heavy black or mono black to have it good, regardless im hyped cause i just ordered black cards for a mono black Syr Konrad Edh to tune up a little bit

    • @masterale10
      @masterale10 2 роки тому +1

      It is not ot the video

    • @Aerac
      @Aerac 2 роки тому +1

      @@masterale10 I also play it in my Vito deck over Damnation. It's really good in mono black as it gets through Indestructible just like Toxic Deluge.

    • @pizzapm
      @pizzapm 2 роки тому +1

      Mutilate is just as good as damnation most of the time (the 'cant be regenerated' doesnt come up too often), I'm also fan of Dead of Winter, I don't see anyone playing it but if youre willing to invest in snowlands, then it is essentially 3 mana destroy all creatures. Dead of winter is under a dollar, though the cost really comes from spending 1$ per snow covered swamp for your deck/ I play syr Konrad aswell, do you have a decklist I could take a look at?

    • @masterale10
      @masterale10 2 роки тому +1

      @@pizzapm no, but i've been thinking of uploading my decks to moxfield so, this wknd ima start that, and comment the link over here

  • @Halsfield
    @Halsfield 2 роки тому +1

    What do you guys think of winds of abandon? I think it could be S tier if it didnt ramp your opponents so hard. Still pretty good if you can win on the next turn or so. Or if your opponents only play a few basics.
    And did i miss toxic deluge? Pretty spicy in commander when you can easily pay a bunch of life , and then its a 3mana board wipe that cant be stopped by indestructible or protection from black.

  • @fastertthanyou8805
    @fastertthanyou8805 2 роки тому +7

    I just don’t understand no one talks about hour of revelation I have had it in a deck for 3 years I have never cast it for 6 I have never
    had it in my hand when I could not cast it for 3 it’s literally always 3 white pips destroy all non-land permanents. Mono white and 2 color I would highly recommend it.

    • @g4greed502
      @g4greed502 2 роки тому +1

      hour of revelation is underrated

  • @katanathewarrior9305
    @katanathewarrior9305 Рік тому

    Question, how would you guys rate Phyrexian Rebirth?

  • @bjoernlund85
    @bjoernlund85 9 місяців тому

    ezuris predation is sick, because its green, you can just ramp better and you need to build around it, like etb effects with creatures(garruks uprising e.g.), or giving tokens/creatures deathtouch and so on but in pure comparission its really expansive and "not that good" i play it in my aesi deck and it rocks.
    i love your tierlists really improved some decks of mine.

  • @sandman2953
    @sandman2953 2 роки тому

    Amber for the win!! That was an awesome tid-bit & was hilarious- cats are awesome hah

  • @Definitely_Not_A_Fish
    @Definitely_Not_A_Fish 2 роки тому

    beezy's "oh god" at 14:38 kills me

  • @StudieFelder
    @StudieFelder Рік тому

    As a white player I missed "Winds of Abandon" here - the white version of cyclonic rift which is overseen very often. Not that strong because it's sorcery-speed and you might give a huge amount of resources to your opponents, but in white you should be able to win the game emediatly when you force an empty board. Love that card!

  • @yumyumeatemup
    @yumyumeatemup 2 роки тому +1

    In before Vanquish the Horde S tier!
    Edit: To answer Beezy on Farewell, the cards absolutely ridiculous. If you control the board its a tidal wave that just helps you win. Played a game with my pod with one of our members playing Coven Counters and they cast Farewell. Since they had the best board state by far in terms of big beefy creatures they wiped out all artifacts, enchantments and graveyards and just started throwing haymakers left and right and no one in the game could recover. Its a wipe that can easily become your win condition depending on how its played.

  • @pokemastericon
    @pokemastericon 2 роки тому +2

    I run Merciless Eviction because my playgroup loves to run consistent mass indestructible, making normal board wipes difficult sometimes. Looking at you, Sliver Queen deck

    • @elipetrou9308
      @elipetrou9308 2 роки тому

      Please change it for farewell, it’s literally better in every single way

    • @pokemastericon
      @pokemastericon 2 роки тому +1

      @@elipetrou9308 lol. I absolutely will once I have a copy. I didn't open it out of the packs I got. Money's a bit tight at the moment though, so it will be a while before I buy singles again

    • @elipetrou9308
      @elipetrou9308 2 роки тому +1

      @@pokemastericon fair enough, good luck

  • @noypishinobi9205
    @noypishinobi9205 2 роки тому

    What about Devastating Mastery & Begin Anew??

  • @invokelegend
    @invokelegend 2 роки тому +6

    Uhmmm. You guys missed some of my favorite wipes. Blood on the Snow, Doomskar, Masacre Girl, Terminus, Jokulhaups, Martial Coup, Kaya’s Wrath, Bontu’s Last Reckoning, Flood of Tears, Black Sun’s Zenith, Life’s Finale, Nevinyrral’s Disk, Oblivion Stone, Mutilate. So so many enough for a whole other video :)

    • @noahcarroll4944
      @noahcarroll4944 2 роки тому +2

      No. Just no on the Jokulhaups.

    • @starmanda88
      @starmanda88 2 роки тому +1

      @@noahcarroll4944 big agree

    • @Dark-Pikachu1
      @Dark-Pikachu1 2 роки тому

      And Path of Peril

    • @noahcarroll4944
      @noahcarroll4944 2 роки тому

      @@Dark-Pikachu1 Eh, I don't feel like Path of Peril is on the same level as Jokulhaups. One is an infuriating card, the other is a mediocre card

  • @davidtilton6573
    @davidtilton6573 2 роки тому

    I'm waiting for the video of just the cut footage of amber jumping onto desk and walking in a circle. Talk about top tier content

  • @danielkelley7465
    @danielkelley7465 Рік тому

    well now I have to see what you just released on my birthday

  • @Useraccount85
    @Useraccount85 2 роки тому +1

    Blasphemous Act is great in a Stuffy Doll deck too.

  • @MSmithRacing
    @MSmithRacing 2 роки тому

    I personally have 3 board whips in my Chulane deck those being Vanquish the hoard, Farewell and Consuming tide (in place of cyclonic Rift at some point)

  • @papertiger982
    @papertiger982 2 роки тому +1

    I got back into Magic around Kaldheim. It's really interesting to me that Doomskar was talked about as a big deal because of foretell 1WW, but it doesn't even make it on the list.

    • @Uefeti
      @Uefeti 2 роки тому

      It was more of a big deal for standart, and 60 card formats,

  • @radiodemon5774
    @radiodemon5774 2 роки тому

    Are there any boardwipes in green that aren’t a million mana? Because I can’t think of a situation in a game where I’ve been playing mono green, and been at 8 mana where a fair not one sided board wipe would’ve been the best play.

  • @crawdaddy2004
    @crawdaddy2004 2 роки тому

    The thing about Earthquake effects is that you can tutor them up with Spellseeker.

  • @jacksudar6721
    @jacksudar6721 2 роки тому

    Where do you put perilous vault. I have it borderline A kn the right deck, and a solid B. Fits near every deck, and the exile all is just stupid powerful. This blows the 8 drop green out of the water to me.

  • @nebnesnah
    @nebnesnah 2 роки тому +1

    Where would you put Winds of Abandon? I enjoy playing this card even though I think it's B tier.

  • @IrrelevantGeOff
    @IrrelevantGeOff 2 роки тому +1

    Joe:
    More versatility puts Damn at an A
    Also Joe:
    Less versatility puts Farewell at an A
    Kidding of course, but I agree with Beezy on this one. Farewell is not THAT much better than AC especially in white. Lots of decks in white care more about getting many little creatures right? I think in any deck like that I’d rather have AC. I think farewell is a great card, but I don’t agree that it is “head and shoulders” above AC unless your meta is heavy on graveyard recursion.
    Thank you for the tier list videos! I love the discussion that you guys have and seeing those discussions continue on the discord.

    • @3N3MYKN1GHT
      @3N3MYKN1GHT 2 роки тому

      it's just that it's exile from the get go, austere command wont hit the artifacts and enchantments , and never graveyards, IF you want to hit ALL creatures, dodging dies triggers extremely undervalued, not even giving the option to send your commander to the graveyard, extremely underrated, every deck runs Eternal witness right?

  • @foxy_bl1784
    @foxy_bl1784 2 роки тому

    I love rolling earthquake someone ramps out with manna dorks turn 2 or 3 one sided board wipe. Just hold on manna, but that is in a meta with heavy dorks on the field.

  • @RazgrizAce67
    @RazgrizAce67 2 роки тому +1

    In the same vein as Earthquake, Magmaquake is actually a pretty good boardwipe. It is instant speed, can be one sided if all your creatures fly and kills off planeswakers as a little bonus.

    • @Dark-Pikachu1
      @Dark-Pikachu1 2 роки тому

      Or win cod with infinite mana but then I realize you might die to

  • @Jackaroo.
    @Jackaroo. 2 роки тому

    Today is my birthday! Thanks for the birthday wishes :)

  • @jeroenvaneekeren
    @jeroenvaneekeren 2 роки тому

    Can't have 'em all in such a list, I understand. But in my Simic deck I really have been appreciating Oversimplify.