The fact they can afford caravans, Vehicles, Horses, new trainers clothes and gas, They can afford to all chip in and rent a few porta potties and waste bins
@@LambyMcChop Not good to slanger blanket-statement entire Ethnicity and bunch ROmani and British Traveller and Irish Traveller groups. Uneducated Non-Traveller working class people in Manchester etc also commit crimes. The land to encamp on should be either banned or regulated somehow like in the US where people have to pay to live on a lot. Then Traveeling People could move freely and have amenities and bathrooms on campsites.
I had thought modern caravans had toilets inside. I think most people haven't got an issue with them living in caravans - the issue is that they don't clean up after themselves and neither do most not keep the land clean and rubbish free.
I was brought up next to a gypsy site, unfortunately my thoughts about gypsies are compared to this!. They eventually broke up and left, the cleanup crew went in. One of my friends dad was part of the crew.His findings led him to a breakdown,he discovered children buried on the site as well as human waste mounded as high as himself together with animal remains and their excrement.These memories remain 40 years later, and whilst friends and family are struggling to make ends meet ,we still remain humane!
I see a LOT of child abuse in these communities...my grandad was an Irish traveller and his mother took them away because my grandad and great man used to be beaten.
It’s like the homeless people in our California cities! When you come to California, I’ll show you! Some areas have thousands of homeless and it’s literal dumps, in the middle of our cities! 😔
Every now and then we get original Romania gyspys by us in old traditional wooden horse cart homes, they dont leave no rubbish and are respectful of our land and neighbours.
Yes, my mum said way back in her family tree there were gypsies and real gypsies don't leave a thing behind, they leave it like they've never been there. Not like travellers.
THIS! Its people like that who are really getting the shaft because of the actions of these trash-leaving people. Because of the actions of families like those shown in shows like this for sensation and views, they get a bad name and experience prejudices that do not apply to them. It's always the few who ruin it for the many :(
I used to work at a restaurant and a group of Romani Gypsies would come through maybe once or twice a year. Some are nice and some act like animals, but they will ALL attempt to not pay and will steal every single thing not nailed down. They train the children to do the stealing because you can't really confront someone's child. They even go around to chat other tables to distract while someone else is going through coat pockets and purses. It's a way of life and very organized. They once got 11 salt/pepper shakers. That's just stealing for sport.
@@ambrr_lily That reminds me of when I was a ice cream man mid 90s, my gaffer said pop down to the new camp they set up, ild make loads and so I did so except it ended up costing me 40 quid at wholesale prices, I was going out 99 flakes left right and centre then it acquired to me, hang on where's the money, at that point I jumped into drivers seat and they were grabbing all the bubbles and were even in the freezer grabbing what they could as I accelerated slowly away in a w reg Bedford,they done me over proper,me gaffer just laughed at me, fucking cunt!
@@ambrr_lily reminds me of when I was an ice cream man mid 90, me gaffer said go down thre you will make loads, robbed me blind, I ended up owing me gaffer 40 quid wholesale, kids were stealing the bubbles and ice creams out the freezer as I accelerated away slowly in my w reg Bedford
They should bring a port a potty on its own trailer everywhere they go - I’m sure the city would help install a couple if it meant sanitation for all parties
They won’t let them get electricity and water/sewage the just don’t want them there they’ve been discriminating against these people for hundreds of years
They don't provide anything and then they moan that there's bags of rubbish everywhere we get them never any issues yeah they leave a mess but so would you if the council didn't provide anywhere for you to put your bags
Mary the Horse is adorable and I’m glad he loves her and didn’t want to abandon her. I do believe a tiny garage is not the best life for a horse though. In the U.S. we have to own a farm and a barn or rent a stall to board horses on someone else’s farm. I wish this family luck - they seem like a lovely family.
When I was driving through Bradford moor estate 40 years ago I nearly crashed because of what I saw. A horse was looking out of an open kitchen window of a council house. I thought I was hallucinating until I drove back to take another look. 😆
I was at my mates house a few years ago watching the TV and being a summer night he had the front window open, we looked round and one of the Gypsies horses had it's head through the window and was watching the telly as well. I knew where it come from and knew it had slipped it's chain so I took it back to the encampment on the field. I tried to tell them off but we all ended up laughing about it.
Andrea and Johnny, what a lovely couple. Both very likeable. What really strikes me is how many sacrifices they've both made to fit into each others world. I had to laugh seeing the horse in the garage. Even though I understand Johnny wanting to bring a little bit of home with him, I think it's best for the horse, and poor Andrea's anxiety if the horse stays in a paddock lol.
I can understand the non travelers views. Reminds me of the U.S. where we have ppl who complain they aren't respected while disrespecting everyone. They made sure to film the kids, with no real experience, to get sympathy but nothing is more gross than making a mess and leaving it for others KNOWING that's not okay. Doesn't matter how "nice" you are as a traveler you should respect others areas.
There are plenty of decent travelers out there, there's only a few that give them a bad name and this show likes to show the shit side of them, def not the good side!!
I lived half life surrounded by gypsies,real Roma gypsies not like these cute white ones and never seen any shit left behind.Never any gypsy has done anything bad to me or anyone I know.They have their rules and we have our laws.I don’t have nothing negative to say about gypsies at all,brave,courageous,adventurous people with traditional values when it comes to family who face loads of undeserved discrimination.Treat them with respect as equals and they will respond with same On other hand my neighbours now on one side are basic,white Brits who have all backyard filled with mounts of garbage,kids all time throwing wrappers all over the place and wind brings it in my back yard and all over the place,rude,cruel kids when playing football,aim to kick my dogs,they have broken all fences couple times,I’m not even repairing them anymore,constant screams,weekends are parties till 3 at night with fireworks aimed at my(and other neighbors) windows included and then empty bottles flying from second floor,smacked in my yard into bunch of shards of glass.I miss my life with gypsies,atleast they don’t pretend to be better and they know well that if they mess up they end up paying for it,will need to move,run away-bad behaviour of one all community pays consequences.So fear single mother hoes who have one child from every man who cross their path-White trash who live on You’re tax money and talk posh,pretend like they better than you and you’re nobody to say their kids,,please don’t kick my dogs,, gypsies never would dare to behave like that and would be first to put their kids to place and if they would get that council house trust me they would behave better cos wouldn’t want to be evicted,would be more cordial neighbours
@@tammiep9628_Obviously not_ or they'd be booted out sooner. They're usually in public land. I lived on campsites outside of Paris and Amsterdam. There were gypsies living there. They were polite and respectful, but kept to themselves. Loaned us tools when we needed. Y'all have to keep in mind that "reality TV" *isn't* reality. It's heavily edited, scripted, and produced just like _every_ other TV show. Ask yourself if you'd watch this if there was no drama? Would you watch if the girls weren't scantily clad and over the top? Would you watch if the men weren't fighting occasionally? Honestly, would you watch if it were just regular families doing regular things? Having tea, working a regular 9-5, and being boringly polite to everyone?
I just have to say, I adore Johnny! He is willing to do whatever necessary for his family, while clinging to his roots. He could bring that horse to my neighborhood. All the kids would love it ❤!
See if you would still love it when you are in your garden trying to enjoy the sun and have horse flies and stench all around you. So much fun right? 😂
We kept our horses in the backyard when we wanted them closer than the stables. Weird? Is it stranger than a dog shitting in the yard the kids play in or a box of litter indoors where the cat shit? I’m just sayn!
@@xxxx-qo9dh Do any of your neighbours have compost heaps, dogs or cats! The latter are the best because they are protected and come and shit in your garden and bury it so you can collect it later when weeding.
I'm sorry but I don't really see why a majority of people have to deal with human waste and trash just because a small minority wants to have a "certain" lifestyle?
They should not - and these are a minority case, thankfully... but unfortunately they are making such a bad name for the rest! That even 1-5% of the UK traveller population may be like this is sad as it is though! I just remind myself that these are the "bad eggs" who are abusing their freedoms and being disrespectful to the land and neighbors, making it more difficult for the rest. Reality TV likes to spotlight those kind, because they're far more entertaining to watch 😆 It's not discrimination to want people who ruin the land and neighbourhood to be chased off... If they were polite, respectful, quiet neighbors who didn't leave feces and trash and destroy public property, I'm sure they'd be welcome enough. Big yike!
@@freddiebiscuit9703 Nowhere in my metaphorical example did I say they knocked or asked permission, just that it’s possible to not own the land yu live on and not be trespassing. I’m not a land owner……I just manage some.
@@oldvale3686 And I don't disagree but with due respect, what exactly is you point other than stating the obvious Of course, If the landowner offers up some land for a family to camp on that is fine and I know someone who does this for a perfectly decent travelling family every year toward the end of summer regular as clockwork and they stay a month and then vanish as if no one had ever been there. Sadly that is not usually the case A farmer we knew had to fork out £30k after an entire tribe broke the lock on the gate and entered one of his big fields and it took quite a while to have them evicted which also meant he could not use that field. If you manage land you will know the detrimental impact this can have.
Growing up in the 70's, I had a horse in a paddock in the suburbs in Melbourne Australia. One day the horse got an injury and Dad said to bring it home to our backyard so we could tend to the injuries. The horse got so tame he pinched apples from the open kitchen window and tried to get on the sun lounge with us. We were in a middle class suburb, the neighbours did not complain, rather they all loved having the horse in the street. We used to take it for walks with others that had dogs. Dad even came home one day to see the horse being taken out of the house via the front door! People just smiled. Yes it was strange. There was no problem until the horse healed up and then wanted to run around a bit more. By then he was well enough to go back to his bigger paddock. Storm remained a favourite pet in the street. We used to bring him home weekly for a wash and brush and even a ride around the suburb. Everyone knew him. No one complained except Dad. His lawn suffered but we were having fun so that was ok.
We just want them to obey the law, that's all. The man with the rich friend just needed to pay a lawyer for advice to see that only one trailer was allowed on that plot. The rest of us have to obey planning law so why not they?
It’s kind of a grey area there the trailers are mobile homes it’s not really a permanent structure the neighbors just don’t want them there and neighbors can be douche bags
Exactly the same in Cardiff many years ago, I know they don't wash because if your in a radius of 100 meters you can smell them, it's a very distinctive smell of in-bread shit !!!!!
I did work in local government as an environmental health officer and i have to say that they costs the council millions on cleaning up after they have left and the amount of flytips is ridiculous and relentless, we would have to clean up every week the minimum of 9 fly tips, when they move into a piece of land all the time they are there they defecate everywhere and when they are forced to move on there is tons and tons of green waste building rubbish again costing us cost to clean up every time they move on, they get a bad name for themselves because it's what a lot of them deserve but not all, it's a shame that they don't look after places where they tip everywhere and keep there static Council run site's spotless as it's tipped all over our countryside.
Most councils do not provide the legally required infrastructure that would allow Travelers and Gypsies to live a life without so much mess left behind.
A group of travellers recently decided to move in near me. They cut down a bunch of trees and cleared out an area to park their caravans (no the land was not theirs, obviously.) A year on and they’ve expanded, built a fence, managed to get the school bus to stop at their site, and are now getting Mail delivered there. It’s completely unbelievable how people can just ‘claim’ land that isn’t theirs, illegally cut down a bunch of trees and build a fence, and be allowed to live there! I am not prejudiced towards any groups as every person is their own and people shouldn’t be stereotyped together however it does seem unfortunately common that more often than not, traveler groups cause a lot of trouble.
From what I have read, councils around England have been closing down on gypsy's living in caravans, so there are less places for them to go. Around 70% of Gypsy's live in houses because of this. The gypsy lifestyle is being squashed by the public and councils around England. I feel this is a real shame.
90% of Britain is owned by aristocracy. You, me, and everyone else should have free access to public land. Google land justice movement. Educate yourself.
@@Tanias112 I feel it is fcuking excellent and contrary to what you say many of these so-called "travellers" choose to live in houses just like the settled people they call Gadje. My great-grandfather was gypsy had a horse and travelled. My parents were not and I am most certainly not though I share the love of horses. The modern day ones steal, break the law, and are pikey scum IMO
Lmao that’s what you Anglos did in North American! You came, cleared land that wasn’t yours, and proceeded to geno.cide our Native American people, 30 million!! We never told you Anglos to come to North America!! We never invited you!!
I can empathize with both sides and if both sides worked together the situation could be significantly improved. Maybe if they started by asking land owners and local government to establish a few places for the gypsies/travelers to go in exchange for them agreeing to call ahead and let the appropriate party know they plan to stop in. Whoever is charged as being a contact will give the travelers/gypsies written paperwork clearly describing the dos and donts expected for free access to the land. Once that's done they would be able to establish the individuals responsible for the problems and start charging them a security deposit. It sounds like a lot to do but they have an awful lot to do now anyway. It seems like it's worth trying in the hope that it may make things easier and much more pleasant for both sides. Thank you for sharing and God bless. 😊❤️
Agreed! I said much the same! While I don’t agree with them trespassing I do think the situation would be greatly improved if they had access to a designated area where they’re not bothering anyone because then they wouldn’t have to!
@@jade7249 Stop being disrespectful to everyone around them (these specific ones) by leaving trash, feces and destruction behind them... 😆Its more awful for the rest of the traveller population who are NOT rude, messy and destructive and thus do deserve to have some space made for them in some way. They're a much maligned people, but not without SOME justification to the people that have been used or disturbed because of the actions of a small % of that minority population. There's a large negative sentiment in the country underpinning the communities affected by these families of travellers who are destructive like this. It keeps policies from passing that could aid the traveller people as a whole, because they've alienated the people who make the policies and vote on laws and things by leaving the destruction and filth in their wake for others to clean. Unfortunately, if you're going to abuse the use of the area, and inconvenience the people who are the ones needed to agree for the change to ever happen... it won't happen. People will not side with your cause if you are troubling to them, and leaving feces, trash and WORSE (there've been some stories from awhile ago about bodies being found in the wreckage of children and animals), in the wake of your camps comings and goings. It's very sad for the majority of the traveller people who are, actually, fairly low-key and respectful (from what I have heard in general, lol).
🥰What a beautiful horse .🥰 Much more environmentally friendly than a car in your garage .🥰 I remember the Rag n' Bone man having a beautiful horse .🥰 We, as children, loved making a fuss of that horse in our street ! 🥰
"It's discrimination" Yes,because not wanting human shit smeared where kids play,horses cramped into tiny garages(animal neglect let's be real here) and not wanting the potential of literally anybody with a dangerous criminal past just piling onto some land is discrimination 🤡
"Literally anybody with a dangerous criminal past" - you're kind of assuming all travellers have 'a dangerous criminal past". Not fair. Racist. Ps I'm not a traveller.
@@KatieM786it's not racist because they're not even another race. It's literally what they're proud of and they'll tell you. It's yt trash being yt trash.
ok well peoples dogs shit in a park are you screaming out for all white people with dogs ruin the world, criminal record oh yeh because only if a traveller moves in will this happen in your street mmmm
@@KatieM786 Explain to me how not wanting to live close to criminal are "racist"? _YOU are telling us that all criminals looks different. I think I know who the racist is here..._
Jonny is a very nice guy and FairPlay to him for living the way he wants and not having everyone else telling him how to live his life with his family,, Lovely horse Jonny mate god bless you and your family,,,,,
Come to think of it; The canal/boating community are travellers. Many have been inspired to go "off grid" ..Vans converted to tiny homes (save on rent/first time buyer difficulties) Go on youtube and see the comments section for these lifestyles, inspiring recycling, grow your own on the move etc. Some home school their children. Good old fashioned caravan holidays (nod to the 70,s) gives the "gorger" a sound idea of the daily needs for caravan living.. Retro caravans are a thing now- bow tops too, evolved into "glamping". Down sizing to "tiny eco homes" for those with more pennies. Some of those are on wheels. Gypsies are off griders. Inside their caravans = spotless.. They have toilets but strictly used for storage only. So many youtube vids showing sites before, during and after occupation- the costs of clean ups !! Even if they want to- land owners have no incentive to "help" gypsy travellers for the same reason. Rather the further expense of boulders or fencing to keep them out. Gaslighting us into believing its discrimination? That is offensive to me, cant speak for anyone else. Sorry, rant over.
@@ldvconvoy4063 or .... dispose of their waste in the same way that everybody else who uses a caravan has to... at a designated sewage disposal location.... dumping human waste in hedges and peoples land is absolutely vile
.. would be totally chuffed, to live next door or on the same street as Mary. In fact, when I was a kid, did everything in my power to persuade my parents to let me have a pony. Had it all figured out, keep it in our backyard, exercise it in the laneway etc.. makes me happy to see someone doing it ❤ 🙏🏽 Mtl, Qc (Canada)
Its nice to hear them talk slowly. I must admit this is a interesting insight into the life Not all gypsies are bad there just trying to get by. Like any of us. I have gypsies friends althought not being one myself ive never pissed them off and vice verser. I can understand the annoyance with stuff they do and leave but as a world its gotta be not a hard fix to sort something out for travellers.
I’d say most people have issues with travellers because they pay nothing into the system but expect to get everything out of it. We pay taxes for local services and education, plus National Insurance for National Health Service. They want all that for free & they get it because they work for cash in hand deliberately so they can keep every penny. That’s the main issue, alongside them leaving the areas the live as an absolute 💩 hole. Rats all over the place too. I have plenty of experience with this. Also in my experience, the travellers aren’t the ones being bullied in school, it’s the opposite way round.
They don't take out of the system they make money to feed their wives and kids and they don't sit in a living room watching television moaning all day n nite
You are aware that this just ain’t true anymore. Travellers and gypsies do pay tax, just like everyone else. They have to pay rent on permanent sites as well as council tax. There is no transit sites in the uk only permanent ones so the few travellers that do still travel have to do it this way.
I love the horse family. My best friend when i was little had a horse in her garden so its not that strange to me. She wasnt in a garage her dad built a stable for her.
Tony’s had a few problems in his life I believe.. he’s trying his hardest to be a good parent.. it’s a tough situation and I hope it works out for him..
the mayor of my gran's village has been welcoming on a regular basis a family of gypsies for a long time now. just a few caravans at a time. they are apparently a well known family for several generations in this village , so they are not really considered outsiders. I have never seen any littering. the kids don't go to school, but are always playing OUTSIDE! (I love to hear kiddos screams). common sense is what it takes to live in harmony
What do you think- do the Gypsy’s only leave rubbish and human excrement around the property because they’re discriminated against or do you think that’s just how some of them are conditioned to live??? 🤔
I lived half life surrounded by gypsies,real Roma gypsies not like these cute white ones and never seen any shit left behind.Never any gypsy has done anything bad to me or anyone I know.They have their rules and we have our laws.I don’t have nothing negative to say about gypsies at all,brave,courageous,adventurous people with traditional values when it comes to family who face loads of undeserved discrimination.Treat them with respect as equals and they will respond with same On other hand my neighbours now on one side are basic,white Brits who have all backyard filled with mounts of garbage,kids all time throwing wrappers all over the place and wind brings it in my back yard and all over the place,rude,cruel kids when playing football,aim to kick my dogs,they have broken all fences couple times,I’m not even repairing them anymore,constant screams,weekends are parties till 3 at night with fireworks aimed at my(and other neighbors) windows included and then empty bottles flying from second floor,smacked in my yard into bunch of shards of glass.I miss my life with gypsies,atleast they don’t pretend to be better and they know well that if they mess up they end up paying for it,will need to move,run away-bad behaviour of one all community pays consequences.So fear single mother hoes who have one child from every man who cross their path-White trash who live on You’re tax money and talk posh,pretend like they better than you and you’re nobody to say their kids,,please don’t kick my dogs,, gypsies never would dare to behave like that and would be first to put their kids to place and if they would get that council house trust me they would behave better cos wouldn’t want to be evicted,would be more cordial neighbours
@@EB12581 right but that doesn’t mean they can’t be discreet about it- they could bury it or something, not smear it around and leave it for others to clean up.
This shows people the true heart of the Gypsy's. Beautiful people who will do ANYTHING for their families. My heart honestly breaks for them, I grew up with a gypsy family as a child and they were so welcoming and omg the food!!!
Yeah most leave crap everywhere, start fights in towns, steal dogs and cut microchips out of them, when leave rubbish everywhere. Rip vulnerable people off. Steal. Yet they claim people are prejudiced against them. HA. Of they were respectful, we wouldn’t mind would we.
In my country they have their whole own area and neighborhood. Some have caravans and some have whole houses, but all in the same area. Hard workers here and the girls always finish school and even college.
In the US this is called “van life” or living nomadic. But there is also a fine line between living nomadic and being homeless. The trash, human waste and drugs is that fine line for us here. But even those with $150,000 Sprinters and rvs get push back too. Trailer parks and campgrounds provide these services. There are also dump stations in every county. Burning trash is not okay in a neighborhood or at all. If you live rural you can burn wood and piles during approved days. I’m a rule follower because I’m black. Lots of these rules are made to discriminate, but many are made to keep things clean and keep of home values for those who own homes. Which housing prices and mean residents have made impossible. I get both sides. We have to respect cultures and learn to communicate. Not always ask if some is against the law.
I wouldn’t consider van life people even close to this… the hip sets have a whole culture of marring young and only dating other Gypsies - have traditions and get together every so often - van life people have none of that
Travellers are totally unrelated to people who are living ‘van life’. In Britain & Ireland; travellers are recognised as an ethnic minority group, distinct from the local/ native population. A low intellect attempt at metaphor might go like this: Van life folks are like me with a sun tan, the tan will fade if I don’t sunbathe periodically… a sun tan doesn’t turn me from a European Celt into a ‘person of colour’… my tan is really just cosmetic…. I wasn’t born with it and it’s a choice, temporary by nature. Being born a traveller is NOT a temporary or cosmetic thing. Just like every human ever born- nobody gets to choose what nationality, religion or ethnicity they are born into. We just adapt and grow into our surroundings and culture. There are lots of Irish Travellers in the US. Some live on big sites that are like small towns. Some families are wealthy and run successful businesses. Can’t think of the title but a YT search for ‘ Irish Travellers in America ‘ should find it. Very interesting documentary, made around 2010 if memory serves me. British production documentary called ‘ my big fat gypsy wedding ‘ is another good program. Well worth a watch if you find traveller documentaries interesting.
Living full time in a van or an actual RV is VERY different than being in a traveler or Roma community. They are a distinct culture with centuries-old traditions. In the middle of the last century, they were persecuted and rounded up and murdered in Hitler’s concentration camps. So with those traditions and history, that is very different than simply choosing to live permanently or not,in RVs, vans, or travel trailers. It does seem to me that the travelers and gypsies face in the British Isles is part and parcel of the British class system.
As someone who experienced the discrimination living nomadically, I assure you the vanlifers are privileged and DO NOT experience discrimination AT ALL.
If you’re living grossly-leaving garbage and literal waste everywhere-can’t blame others for not wanting you around. We have those types of people here in Appalachia -we also have travelers
They don't have to pay for rent, mortgage or utilities majority of the time. And prior to that generation that got the car as a gift, the rest of the generations didn't need to pay for education either among other things..it adds up to a lot of savings over the course of time.
They work hard for good money and that car would’ve been cheap for them as maybe a mot failure or payment for a job it’s not more that a few hundred quid
I accidentally drove into a traveler car park which they had been given permission to stay in by the local council. They were really defensive and its no wonder as they get treated like they are less than. Once they realized I meant no harm they completely changed and were really nice. I would like to see designated sites for them and real discussions about how it can work where everyone is happy. God bless them and keep.
Your comment shows intelligence and critical thinking. I really appreciate that. Most people make judgements based on stereotypes without having ever known or met a traveler. And those who have met a smaller few, discriminate based on one bad experience. Your lovely response makes me hopeful others can see the light instead of choosing blind hate.
Gypsy people are great family oriented people i had a big traveller community around my shop in bulkington had no problems great people always glad to see them ❤
At what cost? They are messy, noisy and disruptive to residents where there pitch up. If they want to be treated with more respect then they need to be more respectful. They can't expect the red carpet treatment. I've seem the mess and dirt and crap travellers cause first hand. I have no respect for them. Change their ways of f*ck off. Simple.
Nothing wrong with living in a camper and traveling. Everything wrong with animal cruelty, destroying land everywhere you go and only taking taking taking never giving back.
i had a bestfriend traveller come to our school they bullied and bullied he left over it saw him again good wile after out clubbing in town he saw them boys offerd the boys out one on one all i can say is he must of been working on his craft boxed the shite out of them the people sanding round were like "pikeys starting fights again" i realised you never know whats gone on to make people the way they are.
And imagine being hated without any reason EVERYWHERE you go. Everyone is fighting battles we know nothing about. There's many ways to be discriminated against, we only see the tip of the iceberg.
The one living on the side of the road saying she clears up the rubbish and doesn't leave a mess, all the while piles of rubbish thrown over the stone wall behind her. Yeah righto love, that just magically appeared.
I don't know why the travelers don't buy a parcel of land in the country for them all to live on. Why on earth do they want to be right up beside people in town anyway?
@MegaSid19 Why do they more often than more outstay their "welcome" on private land. They should just keep travelling and not set up camp then when it suits amd when and where their anti social behaviour is not wanted.
Think about Tony Giles and Johnny. They want what’s best for their family. One thing you can guarantee is you’ll have no gangs or Ned’s in your street with them in it. Can’t believe Tony had to demolish his home. Council should have bought it for the homeless
As long as Mary is happy, that's all that matters. As an ex Irish traveller slave I know too much! As far as Gypsy weddings go - I have attended a wedding reception with free bar & lots of Irish music.
Interesting the neighbors @ 16:08 have a trailer & other has a large van themselves. These people really just need some designated spots, why is that so hard? I understand NMBY but this is why they things are so bad. If they wanna live on the go, downsized, make them pay for campout sites or something instead of taxes (which are a ridiculous scam anyway.)
Johnny should clean his horse up and let the kids pay to take photos sitting on it. I did that 60 years ago and I am not a traveler but one of my first photos I sat on a horse just like that.
From Canada. We love UK with all our hearts. Countries that take care of there own ! Health care paid through taxes ! If USA had that they would be golden ! Its so expensive in USA for health care its just "sick".
Municipalities should put signs up that says Gypsies welcome and start charging for waste cleanup and plot or land camps. Make it legal and charge for it. Do it for all open lands, parks and so on. So when they break the laws they can be arrested for not paying and have their caravans impounded.
I live in a national forest in the Appalachian Mountains. We have problems with homeless wanting to settle in the forest. Problem is we have bears and other creatures around and they are attracted to garbage which makes them fear people less and it litters the woods/roads badly. Fire is another major concern as it could burn 1000s of acres and our cabins. That poor horse needs a pasture to run ! Sad and angry that the gypsies lied and arrogantly left a mess.
Are there no campsite in the uk? Like you can find pretty much find campgrounds all over the US. Idk I just feel like it would solve a lot of issues. And it’s quite easy to find cheap campsites like national or state preservations and parks. Idk just an idea
@ Megan, here in the UK, the Government are so controlling and oppressive, they don’t want people living free, it might give those that have submitted their freedom to the state ideas… You would think it would be easy to buy some land and live on it, but the mafia Government will not let you build houses, it’s got to be a commercial business of some kind I think ?? It’s very wrong but most people are asleep here and side with their oppressors
@@graceroxburgh8891correction,we can’t afford all administration parasites who eat the cake and just put sticks in wheels.NHS was working much better when head nurses where running hospitals and there was 0 of useless administrators.Now we have more administrators to do all in their powers we can’t get basic appointments than Doctors.NHS is run so badly we can’t get proper diagnosis and treatments.NHS is run down on purpose to take it away from us,normal people,like if bastard elites don’t make enough with their scam contracts.we have enough resources for us all,but we never will have enough even for one of those endlessly greedy bastards
Believe it or not theres a place called Haverton Hill near Middlesbrough and they actually had a Horse living in the Parlour of the house and they werent even Gypsies
The thing with horses pisses me off. Until a century ago horses and buggies were common everywhere. My flat in Edinburgh was built 8 step up from street level in the 1800s to account for how much horse puckey there was expected on a nightly basis from an average of 4 horses and a carriage per flat for hundreds of flats in town centre but now it is all an issue? To the travellers, if you are in my neck of the woods and you are respectful and pick up after yourself including your shite, you are welcome here.
Couldn't the council collect tag numbers on all those trailers on the illegal sites and then each one is responsible for their portion of the cleanup or they take trailers? Im not sure, but i feel like they are only doing it to be spiteful so maybe if they realized they couldn't do it consequence free.
The BD boy getting a car is he even old enough to drive? Can’t help noticing it seems his parents wanted to show off & u can see it makes the other boys envious & makes their parents feel bad & be pressured to do the same not all parents can afford too, they could have given him a car privately in order not to embarrass the other parents 😮
I have a question here in America we have tins if sites for anyone who wishes to park their rv homes and camp their of course their are rules like hook up to the sites utilities and such and they might charge you a but of money why don't you have those things there
Where I live we get a lot of travellers in the summer and they do get on car parks, playing fields etc and it is a problem if people want to use the car park or play sport on the field. But also the town is surrounded by heathland and other common land and the council place great big rocks and boulders so they can't get on there. Why?, that's where they want to be, that's where the residents would prefer them, and up until about 50 years ago that's where they went.
I like travellers i meet a couple of them and they are kind the older generation and the young plus i think you need to know them to learn there thoughts and feelings and calling them gipscy as my grate grandfather was a irish traveller/ gipcy but i preferred traveller less demining to the culture from then and now simlire just little changes
@@ambrr_lily What being stabled? I doubt it is left there all day, race horses on the other hand spend a lot of their lives boxed as do many high end competition horses.
The fact they can afford caravans, Vehicles, Horses, new trainers clothes and gas, They can afford to all chip in and rent a few porta potties and waste bins
Agreed
Afford 😂 they just steal everything
@@LambyMcChop😂
@@LambyMcChop Not good to slanger blanket-statement entire Ethnicity and bunch ROmani and British Traveller and Irish Traveller groups. Uneducated Non-Traveller working class people in Manchester etc also commit crimes. The land to encamp on should be either banned or regulated somehow like in the US where people have to pay to live on a lot. Then Traveeling People could move freely and have amenities and bathrooms on campsites.
Yup the fifth they leave Behind own
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I had thought modern caravans had toilets inside. I think most people haven't got an issue with them living in caravans - the issue is that they don't clean up after themselves and neither do most not keep the land clean and rubbish free.
They do have bathrooms inside but the culture is not to go to the toilet close to where they cook, eat and sleep.
Would u shit where u eat?
@@lorrainebennett7528so just dump it outside then?
@@lorrainebennett7528” never shit in your own caravan”
Yeah i have no issue with gypsies but it's really annoying when they leave a mess
I was brought up next to a gypsy site, unfortunately my thoughts about gypsies are compared to this!. They eventually broke up and left, the cleanup crew went in. One of my friends dad was part of the crew.His findings led him to a breakdown,he discovered children buried on the site as well as human waste mounded as high as himself together with animal remains and their excrement.These memories remain 40 years later, and whilst friends and family are struggling to make ends meet ,we still remain humane!
Fucking liar
I see a LOT of child abuse in these communities...my grandad was an Irish traveller and his mother took them away because my grandad and great man used to be beaten.
You never saw any gypsy people leave rubbish anywhere, Irish travellers ain’t gypsys . There’s no Irish gypsy
It’s like the homeless people in our California cities! When you come to California, I’ll show you! Some areas have thousands of homeless and it’s literal dumps, in the middle of our cities! 😔
@@LewisC-t1fGo back to Europe where your ancestors came from. You're squatting on unceded Indigenous land, colonizer
Every now and then we get original Romania gyspys by us in old traditional wooden horse cart homes, they dont leave no rubbish and are respectful of our land and neighbours.
Yes, my mum said way back in her family tree there were gypsies and real gypsies don't leave a thing behind, they leave it like they've never been there. Not like travellers.
THIS! Its people like that who are really getting the shaft because of the actions of these trash-leaving people. Because of the actions of families like those shown in shows like this for sensation and views, they get a bad name and experience prejudices that do not apply to them. It's always the few who ruin it for the many :(
I used to work at a restaurant and a group of Romani Gypsies would come through maybe once or twice a year. Some are nice and some act like animals, but they will ALL attempt to not pay and will steal every single thing not nailed down. They train the children to do the stealing because you can't really confront someone's child. They even go around to chat other tables to distract while someone else is going through coat pockets and purses. It's a way of life and very organized. They once got 11 salt/pepper shakers. That's just stealing for sport.
@@ambrr_lily That reminds me of when I was a ice cream man mid 90s, my gaffer said pop down to the new camp they set up, ild make loads and so I did so except it ended up costing me 40 quid at wholesale prices, I was going out 99 flakes left right and centre then it acquired to me, hang on where's the money, at that point I jumped into drivers seat and they were grabbing all the bubbles and were even in the freezer grabbing what they could as I accelerated slowly away in a w reg Bedford,they done me over proper,me gaffer just laughed at me, fucking cunt!
@@ambrr_lily reminds me of when I was an ice cream man mid 90, me gaffer said go down thre you will make loads, robbed me blind, I ended up owing me gaffer 40 quid wholesale, kids were stealing the bubbles and ice creams out the freezer as I accelerated away slowly in my w reg Bedford
They should bring a port a potty on its own trailer everywhere they go - I’m sure the city would help install a couple if it meant sanitation for all parties
They won’t let them get electricity and water/sewage the just don’t want them there they’ve been discriminating against these people for hundreds of years
They won’t even provide bins never mind toilet or hygiene facilities
@@juicyluce5615 Lmao this, I was just about to say...
You get all this on regulated campsites which gypsies don't use because they have to pay and follow rules!@@juicyluce5615
They don't provide anything and then they moan that there's bags of rubbish everywhere we get them never any issues yeah they leave a mess but so would you if the council didn't provide anywhere for you to put your bags
The horse in the garage is hilarious 😅. I definitely would not mind that it's better than having noisy neighbours lol 😅
Imagine the smell though?😭
Thats no life for a horse.
Stench and horseflies when you try to enjoy your garden right? You’d be delighted?
I've heard of travellers keeping ponys in flats!
Mary the Horse is adorable and I’m glad he loves her and didn’t want to abandon her. I do believe a tiny garage is not the best life for a horse though. In the U.S. we have to own a farm and a barn or rent a stall to board horses on someone else’s farm. I wish this family luck - they seem like a lovely family.
When I was driving through Bradford moor estate 40 years ago I nearly crashed because of what I saw. A horse was looking out of an open kitchen window of a council house. I thought I was hallucinating until I drove back to take another look. 😆
I was at my mates house a few years ago watching the TV and being a summer night he had the front window open, we looked round and one of the Gypsies horses had it's head through the window and was watching the telly as well. I knew where it come from and knew it had slipped it's chain so I took it back to the encampment on the field. I tried to tell them off but we all ended up laughing about it.
A regular Mr Ed lol watching the shows lol
Andrea and Johnny, what a lovely couple. Both very likeable. What really strikes me is how many sacrifices they've both made to fit into each others world. I had to laugh seeing the horse in the garage. Even though I understand Johnny wanting to bring a little bit of home with him, I think it's best for the horse, and poor Andrea's anxiety if the horse stays in a paddock lol.
I can understand the non travelers views. Reminds me of the U.S. where we have ppl who complain they aren't respected while disrespecting everyone. They made sure to film the kids, with no real experience, to get sympathy but nothing is more gross than making a mess and leaving it for others KNOWING that's not okay. Doesn't matter how "nice" you are as a traveler you should respect others areas.
There are plenty of decent travelers out there, there's only a few that give them a bad name and this show likes to show the shit side of them, def not the good side!!
I would like to know if these travelers are living on other peoples land that bought and pay taxes on?
I lived half life surrounded by gypsies,real Roma gypsies not like these cute white ones and never seen any shit left behind.Never any gypsy has done anything bad to me or anyone I know.They have their rules and we have our laws.I don’t have nothing negative to say about gypsies at all,brave,courageous,adventurous people with traditional values when it comes to family who face loads of undeserved discrimination.Treat them with respect as equals and they will respond with same
On other hand my neighbours now on one side are basic,white Brits who have all backyard filled with mounts of garbage,kids all time throwing wrappers all over the place and wind brings it in my back yard and all over the place,rude,cruel kids when playing football,aim to kick my dogs,they have broken all fences couple times,I’m not even repairing them anymore,constant screams,weekends are parties till 3 at night with fireworks aimed at my(and other neighbors) windows included and then empty bottles flying from second floor,smacked in my yard into bunch of shards of glass.I miss my life with gypsies,atleast they don’t pretend to be better and they know well that if they mess up they end up paying for it,will need to move,run away-bad behaviour of one all community pays consequences.So fear single mother hoes who have one child from every man who cross their path-White trash who live on You’re tax money and talk posh,pretend like they better than you and you’re nobody to say their kids,,please don’t kick my dogs,, gypsies never would dare to behave like that and would be first to put their kids to place and if they would get that council house trust me they would behave better cos wouldn’t want to be evicted,would be more cordial neighbours
@@tammiep9628_Obviously not_ or they'd be booted out sooner. They're usually in public land. I lived on campsites outside of Paris and Amsterdam. There were gypsies living there. They were polite and respectful, but kept to themselves. Loaned us tools when we needed. Y'all have to keep in mind that "reality TV" *isn't* reality. It's heavily edited, scripted, and produced just like _every_ other TV show.
Ask yourself if you'd watch this if there was no drama? Would you watch if the girls weren't scantily clad and over the top? Would you watch if the men weren't fighting occasionally? Honestly, would you watch if it were just regular families doing regular things? Having tea, working a regular 9-5, and being boringly polite to everyone?
I’d love to know, where are you like to live in. I am from Yorkshire gypsies run the white and brown rounds, scumbags of the Earth.
I just have to say, I adore Johnny! He is willing to do whatever necessary for his family, while clinging to his roots. He could bring that horse to my neighborhood. All the kids would love it ❤!
See if you would still love it when you are in your garden trying to enjoy the sun and have horse flies and stench all around you. So much fun right? 😂
@@xxxx-qo9dh god forbid you move to the countryside...
this isnt the countryside though? these are people who have paid for their homes and have to live beside this mess@@squaresman1031
We kept our horses in the backyard when we wanted them closer than the stables. Weird? Is it stranger than a dog shitting in the yard the kids play in or a box of litter indoors where the cat shit? I’m just sayn!
@@xxxx-qo9dh Do any of your neighbours have compost heaps, dogs or cats! The latter are the best because they are protected and come and shit in your garden and bury it so you can collect it later when weeding.
I'm sorry but I don't really see why a majority of people have to deal with human waste and trash just because a small minority wants to have a "certain" lifestyle?
They should not - and these are a minority case, thankfully... but unfortunately they are making such a bad name for the rest! That even 1-5% of the UK traveller population may be like this is sad as it is though! I just remind myself that these are the "bad eggs" who are abusing their freedoms and being disrespectful to the land and neighbors, making it more difficult for the rest. Reality TV likes to spotlight those kind, because they're far more entertaining to watch 😆
It's not discrimination to want people who ruin the land and neighbourhood to be chased off... If they were polite, respectful, quiet neighbors who didn't leave feces and trash and destroy public property, I'm sure they'd be welcome enough. Big yike!
So you haven't been to San Francisco have you
@@karlaolson6238got gypsies over there?
Because they play the victim. They’re cry bullies.
where else are they suppose to go. Yall are racist.
If you're living on land that you don't own, don't pay rent or taxes, it's called trespassing.
Clearly you have no knowledge of the Native American philosophy to land ownership-it does not exist. The land belongs to Planet Earth you twat!!
Someone else owns*…..
If I owed land and let someone live on it are they trespassing because they don’t own it?
@@oldvale3686 Reality check warning. As a landowner, I can tell you that usuallu they do not knock and ask permission first or offer to pay rent.
@@freddiebiscuit9703 Nowhere in my metaphorical example did I say they knocked or asked permission, just that it’s possible to not own the land yu live on and not be trespassing.
I’m not a land owner……I just manage some.
@@oldvale3686 And I don't disagree but with due respect, what exactly is you point other than stating the obvious Of course, If the landowner offers up some land for a family to camp on that is fine and I know someone who does this for a perfectly decent travelling family every year toward the end of summer regular as clockwork and they stay a month and then vanish as if no one had ever been there. Sadly that is not usually the case A farmer we knew had to fork out £30k after an entire tribe broke the lock on the gate and entered one of his big fields and it took quite a while to have them evicted which also meant he could not use that field. If you manage land you will know the detrimental impact this can have.
People complain about everything man!
"it's too hot, it's too cold... theres a horse in the garage"
😂😂😂
Think before saying thing
😂 😂 😂
Growing up in the 70's, I had a horse in a paddock in the suburbs in Melbourne Australia. One day the horse got an injury and Dad said to bring it home to our backyard so we could tend to the injuries. The horse got so tame he pinched apples from the open kitchen window and tried to get on the sun lounge with us. We were in a middle class suburb, the neighbours did not complain, rather they all loved having the horse in the street. We used to take it for walks with others that had dogs. Dad even came home one day to see the horse being taken out of the house via the front door! People just smiled. Yes it was strange. There was no problem until the horse healed up and then wanted to run around a bit more. By then he was well enough to go back to his bigger paddock. Storm remained a favourite pet in the street. We used to bring him home weekly for a wash and brush and even a ride around the suburb. Everyone knew him. No one complained except Dad. His lawn suffered but we were having fun so that was ok.
love it
I used to do that too with my horse Charlie in Brisbane in the 1970s
We just want them to obey the law, that's all. The man with the rich friend just needed to pay a lawyer for advice to see that only one trailer was allowed on that plot. The rest of us have to obey planning law so why not they?
Entitlement. People like that think someone owes them something.
It’s kind of a grey area there the trailers are mobile homes it’s not really a permanent structure the neighbors just don’t want them there and neighbors can be douche bags
Gypsies are happy tho they're not sat in a living room watching a television moaning all nite😂😂😂
@@JohnFarrell-jo2sw, Would you like them camped outside your home? I'm guessing you wouldn't be a douchebag.
@@kjp1232 No, they are doing it in a box on wheels.
I love the horse in the GARAGE they seem a lovely family I wish them all the best ❤
They built a travellers camp in Inverness UK many years ago , within a week all the copper piping and brass connectors in the wc block were gone !
Homeless camp
Exactly the same in Cardiff many years ago, I know they don't wash because if your in a radius of 100 meters you can smell them, it's a very distinctive smell of in-bread shit !!!!!
Do you not think this happens in all communities?
I did work in local government as an environmental health officer and i have to say that they costs the council millions on cleaning up after they have left and the amount of flytips is ridiculous and relentless, we would have to clean up every week the minimum of 9 fly tips, when they move into a piece of land all the time they are there they defecate everywhere and when they are forced to move on there is tons and tons of green waste building rubbish again costing us cost to clean up every time they move on, they get a bad name for themselves because it's what a lot of them deserve but not all, it's a shame that they don't look after places where they tip everywhere and keep there static Council run site's spotless as it's tipped all over our countryside.
Well said, definitely true!!
It's what they deserve?! To be treated as less than human? Yikes. You're not very kind or intelligent, are ya?
Most councils do not provide the legally required infrastructure that would allow Travelers and Gypsies to live a life without so much mess left behind.
She was so agressive to the couple picking up litter.
Right, they were just doing a good deed and she took it wrong.
A group of travellers recently decided to move in near me. They cut down a bunch of trees and cleared out an area to park their caravans (no the land was not theirs, obviously.) A year on and they’ve expanded, built a fence, managed to get the school bus to stop at their site, and are now getting Mail delivered there. It’s completely unbelievable how people can just ‘claim’ land that isn’t theirs, illegally cut down a bunch of trees and build a fence, and be allowed to live there! I am not prejudiced towards any groups as every person is their own and people shouldn’t be stereotyped together however it does seem unfortunately common that more often than not, traveler groups cause a lot of trouble.
If you look into that, that is exactly how private property was created, occupying and enclosing land that was once common
From what I have read, councils around England have been closing down on gypsy's living in caravans, so there are less places for them to go. Around 70% of Gypsy's live in houses because of this. The gypsy lifestyle is being squashed by the public and councils around England. I feel this is a real shame.
90% of Britain is owned by aristocracy. You, me, and everyone else should have free access to public land. Google land justice movement. Educate yourself.
@@Tanias112 I feel it is fcuking excellent and contrary to what you say many of these so-called "travellers" choose to live in houses just like the settled people they call Gadje. My great-grandfather was gypsy had a horse and travelled. My parents were not and I am most certainly not though I share the love of horses. The modern day ones steal, break the law, and are pikey scum IMO
Lmao that’s what you Anglos did in North American! You came, cleared land that wasn’t yours, and proceeded to geno.cide our Native American people, 30 million!! We never told you Anglos to come to North America!! We never invited you!!
I can empathize with both sides and if both sides worked together the situation could be significantly improved. Maybe if they started by asking land owners and local government to establish a few places for the gypsies/travelers to go in exchange for them agreeing to call ahead and let the appropriate party know they plan to stop in. Whoever is charged as being a contact will give the travelers/gypsies written paperwork clearly describing the dos and donts expected for free access to the land. Once that's done they would be able to establish the individuals responsible for the problems and start charging them a security deposit. It sounds like a lot to do but they have an awful lot to do now anyway. It seems like it's worth trying in the hope that it may make things easier and much more pleasant for both sides. Thank you for sharing and God bless. 😊❤️
Agreed! I said much the same!
While I don’t agree with them trespassing I do think the situation would be greatly improved if they had access to a designated area where they’re not bothering anyone because then they wouldn’t have to!
UK weather is cold rainy and muddy. I camt imagine raising small kids in a trailer. Must be hard. Respect to the mothers who make it work
I’ve known Johnny since I was a young girl , I know Andrea too. This absolutely cracked me up 🤣😂🙈🤣😂🙈
Are you Roma?
The family that moved into the house with the horse in the garage, he reminds me look wise of Russel Crowe!
More like Gerard Butler.
I thought he looked like Gerard Butler!
Its criminal to just cut down a fence and move into a public park! 😂
Imagine if one of us tax paying law abiding citizen just cut down fencing like that, Wonder what would happen to us?🤔
What else are they suppose to do when no one will put up with them being around
@@jade7249 stop living like there in the 1200s a ton of them are millionaires also.
@@jade7249 Stop being disrespectful to everyone around them (these specific ones) by leaving trash, feces and destruction behind them... 😆Its more awful for the rest of the traveller population who are NOT rude, messy and destructive and thus do deserve to have some space made for them in some way. They're a much maligned people, but not without SOME justification to the people that have been used or disturbed because of the actions of a small % of that minority population.
There's a large negative sentiment in the country underpinning the communities affected by these families of travellers who are destructive like this. It keeps policies from passing that could aid the traveller people as a whole, because they've alienated the people who make the policies and vote on laws and things by leaving the destruction and filth in their wake for others to clean.
Unfortunately, if you're going to abuse the use of the area, and inconvenience the people who are the ones needed to agree for the change to ever happen... it won't happen. People will not side with your cause if you are troubling to them, and leaving feces, trash and WORSE (there've been some stories from awhile ago about bodies being found in the wreckage of children and animals), in the wake of your camps comings and goings.
It's very sad for the majority of the traveller people who are, actually, fairly low-key and respectful (from what I have heard in general, lol).
Fuk the fence its a free world
I didn' t know this series existed! Im loving it. 😀
Horse in the Garage, genius actually !😅
🥰What a beautiful horse .🥰 Much more environmentally friendly than a car in your garage .🥰 I remember the Rag n' Bone man having a beautiful horse .🥰 We, as children, loved making a fuss of that horse in our street ! 🥰
"It's discrimination"
Yes,because not wanting human shit smeared where kids play,horses cramped into tiny garages(animal neglect let's be real here) and not wanting the potential of literally anybody with a dangerous criminal past just piling onto some land is discrimination 🤡
"Literally anybody with a dangerous criminal past" - you're kind of assuming all travellers have 'a dangerous criminal past". Not fair. Racist.
Ps I'm not a traveller.
@@KatieM786it's not racist because they're not even another race. It's literally what they're proud of and they'll tell you. It's yt trash being yt trash.
ok well peoples dogs shit in a park are you screaming out for all white people with dogs ruin the world, criminal record oh yeh because only if a traveller moves in will this happen in your street mmmm
@@KatieM786and don't seem to know what bad neighbours pikies make...
@@KatieM786
Explain to me how not wanting to live close to criminal are "racist"? _YOU are telling us that all criminals looks different. I think I know who the racist is here..._
Jonny is a very nice guy and FairPlay to him for living the way he wants and not having everyone else telling him how to live his life with his family,,
Lovely horse Jonny mate god bless you and your family,,,,,
Johnny you remind me of my dad ❤ good man❤ I love you family ❤ stay blessed. The settled will love you ❤
This has been a good episode, you realise not all travellers are bad.❤ thank you.
Truthfully, having my horse live in my home in the garage is dream goals.
6f u 6gv
Why not?
But horses should always have a horse buddy. Never alone. They need proper exercise, too. In proper fields.
It's sad that the gypsies that clean up after themselves and do right get punished by the ones that dont
Come to think of it; The canal/boating community are travellers. Many have been inspired to go "off grid" ..Vans converted to tiny homes (save on rent/first time buyer difficulties) Go on youtube and see the comments section for these lifestyles, inspiring recycling, grow your own on the move etc. Some home school their children.
Good old fashioned caravan holidays (nod to the 70,s) gives the "gorger" a sound idea of the daily needs for caravan living.. Retro caravans are a thing now- bow tops too, evolved into "glamping".
Down sizing to "tiny eco homes" for those with more pennies. Some of those are on wheels.
Gypsies are off griders. Inside their caravans = spotless.. They have toilets but strictly used for storage only.
So many youtube vids showing sites before, during and after occupation- the costs of clean ups !!
Even if they want to- land owners have no incentive to "help" gypsy travellers for the same reason. Rather the further expense of boulders or fencing to keep them out.
Gaslighting us into believing its discrimination? That is offensive to me, cant speak for anyone else.
Sorry, rant over.
"People moan about everything. It's too hot. It's too cold. There's a horse in the garage".
Pooing in the hedge how is that not disrespectful. Disgusting. Vile
Maybe they should dump it in rivers instead?
@@ldvconvoy4063 or .... dispose of their waste in the same way that everybody else who uses a caravan has to... at a designated sewage disposal location.... dumping human waste in hedges and peoples land is absolutely vile
@@_year-sb6sy it ends up in the rivers anyway is my point
.. would be totally chuffed, to live next door or on the same street as Mary. In fact, when I was a kid, did everything in my power to persuade my parents to let me have a pony. Had it all figured out, keep it in our backyard, exercise it in the laneway etc.. makes me happy to see someone doing it ❤ 🙏🏽 Mtl, Qc (Canada)
I love how some boomers call Facebook "The Facebook" 😂
Guilty! Lolol
Its nice to hear them talk slowly.
I must admit this is a interesting insight into the life
Not all gypsies are bad there just trying to get by.
Like any of us.
I have gypsies friends althought not being one myself ive never pissed them off and vice verser.
I can understand the annoyance with stuff they do and leave but as a world its gotta be not a hard fix to sort something out for travellers.
I’d say most people have issues with travellers because they pay nothing into the system but expect to get everything out of it. We pay taxes for local services and education, plus National Insurance for National Health Service. They want all that for free & they get it because they work for cash in hand deliberately so they can keep every penny. That’s the main issue, alongside them leaving the areas the live as an absolute 💩 hole. Rats all over the place too. I have plenty of experience with this. Also in my experience, the travellers aren’t the ones being bullied in school, it’s the opposite way round.
True but traveler’s do get bullied in schools
They don't take out of the system they make money to feed their wives and kids and they don't sit in a living room watching television moaning all day n nite
You are aware that this just ain’t true anymore. Travellers and gypsies do pay tax, just like everyone else. They have to pay rent on permanent sites as well as council tax. There is no transit sites in the uk only permanent ones so the few travellers that do still travel have to do it this way.
@@PINKZUSHI1so do plenty of non-travellers..
@@misshipster98 they don’t get bullied for being gorjas tho do they, gypsies and travellers get bullied for being gypsies and travellers.
I love the horse family. My best friend when i was little had a horse in her garden so its not that strange to me. She wasnt in a garage her dad built a stable for her.
Tony’s had a few problems in his life I believe.. he’s trying his hardest to be a good parent.. it’s a tough situation and I hope it works out for him..
I bloody well love the horse in the garage, good for you
the mayor of my gran's village has been welcoming on a regular basis a family of gypsies for a long time now. just a few caravans at a time. they are apparently a well known family for several generations in this village , so they are not really considered outsiders. I have never seen any littering. the kids don't go to school, but are always playing OUTSIDE! (I love to hear kiddos screams).
common sense is what it takes to live in harmony
I love the horse in the grage story and that steampunk looking neighbour was so cool!
I think someone should tell Tony his Bow is strung back to front!😂
What do you think- do the Gypsy’s only leave rubbish and human excrement around the property because they’re discriminated against or do you think that’s just how some of them are conditioned to live??? 🤔
No one needs shit anywhere because of oppression. Ever. It's about showing respect to where one is, easier to be made welcomed back.
I lived half life surrounded by gypsies,real Roma gypsies not like these cute white ones and never seen any shit left behind.Never any gypsy has done anything bad to me or anyone I know.They have their rules and we have our laws.I don’t have nothing negative to say about gypsies at all,brave,courageous,adventurous people with traditional values when it comes to family who face loads of undeserved discrimination.Treat them with respect as equals and they will respond with same
On other hand my neighbours now on one side are basic,white Brits who have all backyard filled with mounts of garbage,kids all time throwing wrappers all over the place and wind brings it in my back yard and all over the place,rude,cruel kids when playing football,aim to kick my dogs,they have broken all fences couple times,I’m not even repairing them anymore,constant screams,weekends are parties till 3 at night with fireworks aimed at my(and other neighbors) windows included and then empty bottles flying from second floor,smacked in my yard into bunch of shards of glass.I miss my life with gypsies,atleast they don’t pretend to be better and they know well that if they mess up they end up paying for it,will need to move,run away-bad behaviour of one all community pays consequences.So fear single mother hoes who have one child from every man who cross their path-White trash who live on You’re tax money and talk posh,pretend like they better than you and you’re nobody to say their kids,,please don’t kick my dogs,, gypsies never would dare to behave like that and would be first to put their kids to place and if they would get that council house trust me they would behave better cos wouldn’t want to be evicted,would be more cordial neighbours
They said they don’t have a toilet in the caravan, and not allowed to use it anyway.
@@EB12581 right but that doesn’t mean they can’t be discreet about it- they could bury it or something, not smear it around and leave it for others to clean up.
@@brookebixler1040 I agree, I was just explaining why?
This shows people the true heart of the Gypsy's. Beautiful people who will do ANYTHING for their families. My heart honestly breaks for them, I grew up with a gypsy family as a child and they were so welcoming and omg the food!!!
Yeah most leave crap everywhere, start fights in towns, steal dogs and cut microchips out of them, when leave rubbish everywhere. Rip vulnerable people off. Steal. Yet they claim people are prejudiced against them. HA. Of they were respectful, we wouldn’t mind would we.
In my country they have their whole own area and neighborhood. Some have caravans and some have whole houses, but all in the same area. Hard workers here and the girls always finish school and even college.
If they took their rubbish away n tried to get on with people, maybe they'll get more support. Trashing land is costing a fortune to clear.
In the US this is called “van life” or living nomadic. But there is also a fine line between living nomadic and being homeless. The trash, human waste and drugs is that fine line for us here. But even those with $150,000 Sprinters and rvs get push back too. Trailer parks and campgrounds provide these services. There are also dump stations in every county.
Burning trash is not okay in a neighborhood or at all. If you live rural you can burn wood and piles during approved days. I’m a rule follower because I’m black. Lots of these rules are made to discriminate, but many are made to keep things clean and keep of home values for those who own homes. Which housing prices and mean residents have made impossible. I get both sides. We have to respect cultures and learn to communicate. Not always ask if some is against the law.
I wouldn’t consider van life people even close to this… the hip sets have a whole culture of marring young and only dating other Gypsies - have traditions and get together every so often - van life people have none of that
Travellers are totally unrelated to people who are living ‘van life’.
In Britain & Ireland; travellers are recognised as an ethnic minority group, distinct from the local/ native population.
A low intellect attempt at metaphor might go like this: Van life folks are like me with a sun tan, the tan will fade if I don’t sunbathe periodically… a sun tan doesn’t turn me from a European Celt into a ‘person of colour’… my tan is really just cosmetic…. I wasn’t born with it and it’s a choice, temporary by nature.
Being born a traveller is NOT a temporary or cosmetic thing. Just like every human ever born- nobody gets to choose what nationality, religion or ethnicity they are born into. We just adapt and grow into our surroundings and culture.
There are lots of Irish Travellers in the US. Some live on big sites that are like small towns. Some families are wealthy and run successful businesses.
Can’t think of the title but a YT search for ‘ Irish Travellers in America ‘ should find it. Very interesting documentary, made around 2010 if memory serves me.
British production documentary called ‘ my big fat gypsy wedding ‘ is another good program. Well worth a watch if you find traveller documentaries interesting.
Traveller people are born traveller people it’s in their blood
Living full time in a van or an actual RV is VERY different than being in a traveler or Roma community. They are a distinct culture with centuries-old traditions. In the middle of the last century, they were persecuted and rounded up and murdered in Hitler’s concentration camps. So with those traditions and history, that is very different than simply choosing to live permanently or not,in RVs, vans, or travel trailers. It does seem to me that the travelers and gypsies face in the British Isles is part and parcel of the British class system.
As someone who experienced the discrimination living nomadically, I assure you the vanlifers are privileged and DO NOT experience discrimination AT ALL.
If you’re living grossly-leaving garbage and literal waste everywhere-can’t blame others for not wanting you around. We have those types of people here in Appalachia -we also have travelers
Another question, where does the money come from to be able to buy a car for the boys birthday. Am confused and would like to understand.
They don't have to pay for rent, mortgage or utilities majority of the time. And prior to that generation that got the car as a gift, the rest of the generations didn't need to pay for education either among other things..it adds up to a lot of savings over the course of time.
They work hard for good money and that car would’ve been cheap for them as maybe a mot failure or payment for a job it’s not more that a few hundred quid
Why buy him a car when he can’t drive it for a few years???
I never felt closer to my Irish roots till I saw them turning a garage into a horse stall! Maybe there’s some traveller in me yet.
Don't blame people not wanting to be around them. Look at the way they leave everywhere they've been. Absolute dirt
Their victim mentality is over the top. Anytime they face consequences for their actions they claim it's discrimination.
The horse in the garage is unusual but to be fair they are very respectful and friendly who are happy to interact with non travellers.
I accidentally drove into a traveler car park which they had been given permission to stay in by the local council.
They were really defensive and its no wonder as they get treated like they are less than. Once they realized I meant no harm they completely changed and were really nice.
I would like to see designated sites for them and real discussions about how it can work where everyone is happy.
God bless them and keep.
Your comment shows intelligence and critical thinking. I really appreciate that. Most people make judgements based on stereotypes without having ever known or met a traveler. And those who have met a smaller few, discriminate based on one bad experience. Your lovely response makes me hopeful others can see the light instead of choosing blind hate.
Gypsy people are great family oriented people i had a big traveller community around my shop in bulkington had no problems great people always glad to see them ❤
At what cost? They are messy, noisy and disruptive to residents where there pitch up. If they want to be treated with more respect then they need to be more respectful. They can't expect the red carpet treatment. I've seem the mess and dirt and crap travellers cause first hand. I have no respect for them. Change their ways of f*ck off. Simple.
Nothing wrong with living in a camper and traveling. Everything wrong with animal cruelty, destroying land everywhere you go and only taking taking taking never giving back.
I think everyone should have a Horse in their garage!! Fairplay to him! :)
Horses need Freedom, Forage and Friends. No doubt they are feeding Mary but the other elements are missing.
i had a bestfriend traveller come to our school they bullied and bullied he left over it saw him again good wile after out clubbing in town he saw them boys offerd the boys out one on one all i can say is he must of been working on his craft boxed the shite out of them the people sanding round were like "pikeys starting fights again" i realised you never know whats gone on to make people the way they are.
You're well named. That didn't happen, did it?
@@wullymc1 London drama school lol
And imagine being hated without any reason EVERYWHERE you go. Everyone is fighting battles we know nothing about. There's many ways to be discriminated against, we only see the tip of the iceberg.
It costs the average council in England £3000 per week for the clean up. And it's discrimination apparently!! They just don't get it!!
The one living on the side of the road saying she clears up the rubbish and doesn't leave a mess, all the while piles of rubbish thrown over the stone wall behind her.
Yeah righto love, that just magically appeared.
And now my girl wants a horse in our garage 🇬🇧
paulknight3793 so go out and get her one you old skinflint 😆
Carol, if you finding it hard to pull up anywhere, come to chipping Norton and pull on the site
Hahaha I see what you did there..
Gypsies have been here for hundreds of years. Modern ways, living in big homes,not so long. Live and let live ❤
And let them steal as well ? No get a job like the rest of us
Agreed
Last time I checked you can buy plots for your caravan to be on...do they just not want to pay like everyone else?
Naw the council and neighbours don't want travellers there so even if they do by a site from someone they soon get run off by council
I don't know why the travelers don't buy a parcel of land in the country for them all to live on. Why on earth do they want to be right up beside people in town anyway?
LOL, they are called "TRAVELERS" for a reason kiddo.
@MegaSid19
Why do they more often than more outstay their "welcome" on private land. They should just keep travelling and not set up camp then when it suits amd when and where their anti social behaviour is not wanted.
They owned the land at Dale Farm but were still evicted because they didn't have planning permission.
@@lorrainebennett7528and rightfully so, why should we have to abide by the law and they don’t?
@@xxxx-qo9dh Maybe we shouldn't abide by crazy planning laws.
It makes me sad that they don't think it's bad to trespass on land and deface it. It's insane.
Think about Tony Giles and Johnny. They want what’s best for their family. One thing you can guarantee is you’ll have no gangs or Ned’s in your street with them in it. Can’t believe Tony had to demolish his home. Council should have bought it for the homeless
Yes this is why Tony was in Prison because he is so nice person! LOL!!!
As long as Mary is happy, that's all that matters. As an ex Irish traveller slave I know too much! As far as Gypsy weddings go - I have attended a wedding reception with free bar & lots of Irish music.
So it’s okay to leave a site a dump if the owners of the land hurt your feelings? Lmaooo
Glad I wasn't the only one who thought that was ridiculous to say 🤣. Like, have some self respect, clean up after yourself.
Haha that horse is gorgeous n so amazing haha the family is super cute!!!😊
Interesting the neighbors @ 16:08 have a trailer & other has a large van themselves.
These people really just need some designated spots, why is that so hard?
I understand NMBY but this is why they things are so bad.
If they wanna live on the go, downsized, make them pay for campout sites or something instead of taxes (which are a ridiculous scam anyway.)
Johnny should clean his horse up and let the kids pay to take photos sitting on it. I did that 60 years ago and I am not a traveler but one of my first photos I sat on a horse just like that.
From Canada. We love UK with all our hearts. Countries that take care of there own ! Health care paid through taxes ! If USA had that they would be golden ! Its so expensive in USA for health care its just "sick".
Municipalities should put signs up that says Gypsies welcome and start charging for waste cleanup and plot or land camps. Make it legal and charge for it. Do it for all open lands, parks and so on. So when they break the laws they can be arrested for not paying and have their caravans impounded.
I live in a national forest in the Appalachian Mountains. We have problems with homeless wanting to settle in the forest. Problem is we have bears and other creatures around and they are attracted to garbage which makes them fear people less and it litters the woods/roads badly. Fire is another major concern as it could burn 1000s of acres and our cabins.
That poor horse needs a pasture to run ! Sad and angry that the gypsies lied and arrogantly left a mess.
Are there no campsite in the uk? Like you can find pretty much find campgrounds all over the US. Idk I just feel like it would solve a lot of issues. And it’s quite easy to find cheap campsites like national or state preservations and parks. Idk just an idea
@ Megan, here in the UK, the Government are so controlling and oppressive, they don’t want people living free, it might give those that have submitted their freedom to the state ideas… You would think it would be easy to buy some land and live on it, but the mafia Government will not let you build houses, it’s got to be a commercial business of some kind I think ?? It’s very wrong but most people are asleep here and side with their oppressors
We don't quite have the amount of space that you do in the US.
There is actually 1000's of them but they don't accept travellers because of the way they behave..
Maybe the government should create special parks for gypies around England .
We can hardly afford to fund our healthcare system
@@graceroxburgh8891correction,we can’t afford all administration parasites who eat the cake and just put sticks in wheels.NHS was working much better when head nurses where running hospitals and there was 0 of useless administrators.Now we have more administrators to do all in their powers we can’t get basic appointments than Doctors.NHS is run so badly we can’t get proper diagnosis and treatments.NHS is run down on purpose to take it away from us,normal people,like if bastard elites don’t make enough with their scam contracts.we have enough resources for us all,but we never will have enough even for one of those endlessly greedy bastards
There are permanent sites in England
@notme1345 the land kinda just gets taxed , and then accepted.
‘Don’t hate the player, hate the game’🤪
@notme1345 if they was allowed to buy their own land and put all their family on there they would. But they’re not allowed 🤔….
37:10 “I’m not being funny but can you do this then” just trying to confirm if he can call the council up and get the result he wants😂😂
Tonys neice is adorable. 💜
13:14 he’s got the bowstring on the wrong way round! 🤣🤣🤣
Bless the little girl and her dad, she is a darling. From the mouthes of babes.
I hope it resolves for them.
This all makes me sad.
Believe it or not theres a place called Haverton Hill near Middlesbrough and they actually had a Horse living in the Parlour of the house and they werent even Gypsies
The thing with horses pisses me off. Until a century ago horses and buggies were common everywhere. My flat in Edinburgh was built 8 step up from street level in the 1800s to account for how much horse puckey there was expected on a nightly basis from an average of 4 horses and a carriage per flat for hundreds of flats in town centre but now it is all an issue?
To the travellers, if you are in my neck of the woods and you are respectful and pick up after yourself including your shite, you are welcome here.
This. ❤
Couldn't the council collect tag numbers on all those trailers on the illegal sites and then each one is responsible for their portion of the cleanup or they take trailers? Im not sure, but i feel like they are only doing it to be spiteful so maybe if they realized they couldn't do it consequence free.
The BD boy getting a car is he even old enough to drive? Can’t help noticing it seems his parents wanted to show off & u can see it makes the other boys envious & makes their parents feel bad & be pressured to do the same not all parents can afford too, they could have given him a car privately in order not to embarrass the other parents 😮
That car was probably cheaper than the other boys game console
Pls enlighten me, where do they get their money from?
They work, painters, decorators, plumbers, electricians, carpentry, mechanics, landscapers....they are tradesmen
Nothing like being your own worst enemy. Doing what you want is not how things work.
I have a question here in America we have tins if sites for anyone who wishes to park their rv homes and camp their of course their are rules like hook up to the sites utilities and such and they might charge you a but of money why don't you have those things there
God bless yous all ❤, wish yous love, luck, happiness for new years ❤❤❤
I want a horse in my garage! Brilliant haha
The thing is, I never had a bad or negative opinion of travellers, until I realised they do of non travellers
Where I live we get a lot of travellers in the summer and they do get on car parks, playing fields etc and it is a problem if people want to use the car park or play sport on the field. But also the town is surrounded by heathland and other common land and the council place great big rocks and boulders so they can't get on there. Why?, that's where they want to be, that's where the residents would prefer them, and up until about 50 years ago that's where they went.
I like travellers i meet a couple of them and they are kind the older generation and the young plus i think you need to know them to learn there thoughts and feelings and calling them gipscy as my grate grandfather was a irish traveller/ gipcy but i preferred traveller less demining to the culture from then and now simlire just little changes
Arthur bold af walking up to strangers 😂
Horse in the garage is alright by me. Let the man do what makes him happy. Who cares what anyone else thinks.
But that's not a suitable life for a horse. THAT'S the bigger issue.
@@ambrr_lily What being stabled? I doubt it is left there all day, race horses on the other hand spend a lot of their lives boxed as do many high end competition horses.
That’s the problem they never care.. where’s the compromise