Mrblipblop I definitely love my Flashpro, and that goes without saying. But I'd have to say my favorite mod thus far has been my full race 3" dp. I love how it transforms the sound of the car. Even if you aren't bolted up to a Catback it makes significant gains.
Love that you put the shifter bushing in this comparison, most people just put headers, exhaust, yadda yadda seen it all before, know about it already. Big thumbs up man
Damn really loved the video i just got a black 15 si and was planning on keeping it stock, besides k-tuned universal muffler just for a deeper tone. seeing how yours sits is perfect. I have read a lot of good reviews on H&R Springs with SPC camber kit. will def be getting these and the acuity bushings.
Ewwww that sound and pull on the GTI in the end though bro! Nice ..my first new car was 07 SI and lost it and am 42 now and picking up a Fiji blue one owner stock engine with 122k m with Tein springs and I can't wait cause he left the engine bone stock I talked him down to 4900 bucks man it's a clean SI got white wheels....dude had style with it I can't wait to get my baby back ....ohhh the joy and fun I am gonna have this time with the build...gonna go 3 inch full race, cold air, header, flashpro, flywheel, TSX cams, stage 2 clutch, tune, and leave it alone and have fun, if ever get bored then hello comptech rep on the phone.
Thats dope! The tune really helps dial in all the mods together for max power. Skunk2 has good bang for buck headers. maybe get it used and save a few $$. I also reviewed a comptech 8thgen, If you havent seen the vid id recommend to check it out!
@@JewelCity1 nice bro thanks Yeah Skunk2 makes some nice gear I will look into it.. I got a couple fabricator welder cnc guys here that wanna make me a downpipe..,the dude had BC coilovers on it and I made him slap the Tein back on. Loved the feel Tein gave but I'm gonna throw Tochiko shocks on instead of stock it has. Should be pulling around 240 whp with that build without breaking into the motor too much maybe some good pulleys but the ride is suck looking wish I could share a pic
@@JewelCity1 what do you think about me running Injen cold air? Just want a solid air delivery that can operate both N/A and F/I that way I don't have to replace and waste money but get something that delivers a strong dense airflow both ways? Thoughts?
definitely agree with what you said! man .... i've done a lot of stuff to my si but those bushings replacement were my 3rd favorite only behind coils then hondata ..... if i go back in time. 1) suspension/coils 2) wheels 3) retro fit headlights painted black 4) type r badge .. i would do it in that order then id replace the shifter bushings and add engine mods/hondata. but i would purchase exaust, downpipe for NA mods or turbo whichever you decide, and get them installed and tuned all in the same time.
From what I’ve witnessed, the shifter cables, bushings, and the entire assembly for that matter all need to be replaced to make this a hell of a car to shift better. Also make sure you adjust your clutch play to ensure you’re opening it all the way for better shifting. Made a huge difference for me. Hope this helps anyone struggling with their 8th gen SI :)
Does lowering springs sacrifice ride comfortability? What would be the best quality springs to go with? Thinking about putting some on my ‘14 si. Thank you!
it feels a bit stiffer but also in a way its more responsive. I went with HR springs bc it is a milder drop than other brands just to clean up the wheel gap
I agree with only the 4th mod. Opinion only Lowering springs in vt roads. Def no no lol For optimum performance full coilovers are recommended Shifter cable bushings compromise cable integrity (less play/flex in,bushing,more strain on cable) beware!!!!!
Trust Honda manufacturing guys. Lowering springs are not needed and you definitely compromise the integrity of the car. Plus risk negative camber which is going to cause you to go through tires alot more quickly. The Si is an amazing car. Honestly a good intake and exhaust will do just fine! Love my Si!
Loving_Lioness for longevity of the car, definitely agree. Most people just want to get rid of the wheel gap and have sportier handling which lowering springs definitely help to achieve
Just get thicker tire walls that also adds to ride quality and absorbs bumps a lot better. Or get 18in rims if you wanna go the most expensive route but worth it over time.
Scoobems depends. If you're tracking the car, go with coils. For a daily springs are less harsh and aggressive (for those who just want to get rid of wheel gap)
if you are going to lower the car, use coils. springs will give you a smoother ride but you drastically lower the weight you can carry in the car without scraping. You lose soooo much practicality lowering on springs.
Alex Farrell yes, vtec kicks in a bit earlier. Can be beneficial when tuning for a more linear power band. As long as it's not vtec at idle or something like 1500rpm.
And I assume no cel lights. Can you switch back to factory tune yourself say like for emissions testing? Also, how is the oil consumption on this motor generally?
flashpro actually helps to remove cel when you have certain mods like aftermarket downpipe or intake. you can switch between tunes or back to stock if necessary. oil consumption isnt bad in my opinion. the more you vtec the faster it will run through your oil life but that is expected in a high revving car like this.
hey guys, is it possible to put an aftermarket exhuast system on a 9th gen Honda Civic (VTI-L) Hatback? Havent seen much on youtube or the internet. Thanks in advance
its so lame i have a 2012 si and it the 9th gen just like the 13,14,15....... but the 12 looks so much different :( i honestly didnt know there was a difference in the body style of the 9th gen honestly i love how yours looks or 2013-14-15.... the tail lights look the best on the 2013-14-15.... do you know if you can put those body piece's on the 2012???
I just bought a 2012 civic si sedan. It honestly grew on me. I love the way it looks. The 13-15 body style are a dime a dozen so it kind of feels good to have something slightly different lol just wish Honda would have stuck with the higher revving K20 in the FA5’s
are these the OE sport springs, Sport Springs, super sport springs, or race springs? I am looking at the sport springs but they say its a 1.25-18" drop and your car seems to have a lower drop than that.
sport springs with a 1.5 ish drop. after springs settle for a while the car sits a little lower thats why it looks like that. it lowered even more after installing aftermarket shocks
on these civic SI's a tune makes a huge difference in how the car responds to throttle and shifting. It actually makes it more fun to drive and keeps you engaged.
So I am looking at buying a 2014 or 2015 si. I have an 06 Honda accord and my brother had a 2004 TSX. Both burn oil like muthas. Also have a coworker who had Honda replace the 2012 si motor due to consumption tests under warranty. Myconcern is the k series motor consuming oil. Would you say it's only BC your VTEC'ing often? I know another guy who doesn't beat on his 2014 si and oil consumption is normal. Sorry for the log message in advance
never really had an issue with the oil consumption. signs of low oil or worn oil (at least for me) would be the car feeling sluggish under normal/high acceleration. if you check your oil regularly you shouldn't even come to that point though.
ReyXtractor you should be changing your oil every 2500-3000 miles...if you want your honda to live forever then you gotta take care of it dude. Smh. Lol sorry
Yes they are, and the drop is really nice but i would suggest getting sport shocks with it so you dont have to install them later. lowering springs will reduce the life of the factory shocks/struts. Theres a vid on my channel that goes more in depth about the HR springs if you want to know more about it
If you get springs you will wear our your stock shocks a lot faster. Stock shocks are designed around stock ride height. Lowering springs causes the stock shocks to be under far more load than they were designed for. They might last 60k, they might last 10k, but eventually they will wear out. So if you buy springs I'd budget another $250 for Truhart shocks. These shocks are designed for a lowered vehicle. It will also make your car much more comfortable, I am on springs with stock shocks and I am bouncing all over the place. You also need SPC front camber bolts ($30) and a rear camber kit ($150-250). If you Do not get the camber bolts and rear camber kit your alignment will be off and you will wear out your tires much faster. It is cheaper in the long run to get the camber kit and a proper alignment than cheap out and eat up your tires. If you want you can do springs first and wait until your stock shocks fail to replace them. But you will likely spend more money in labor unless you can do it yourself. I hope this was helpful, I bought an Si with springs and stock shocks and am in the process of cleaning up the previous idiot's mistakes.
Im also on stock shocks and did not need the front camber bolts for alignment. From what ive noticed the 'toe' is what eats up your tires quicker. the negative camber in the rear will just eat the inner sides of the tires quicker COMPARED the the outer edges (depends on how low you are), but relatively at the same rate of normal wear
I disagree. Or rather guys on 9th gen forum have different experiences. Some say their rear tire life was not affected and some had to replace them far earlier than the manufacturer suggested. There's too many variables to predict what exactly will happen to an individuals car. I just know Chris at red shift motorsport recommends the camber kit with any drop over HFP, and he's modified more honda suspensions than just about anyone.
Mrblipblop that works. When's the next car meet? I would attend car meets but I was doing a lot of motorcycle riding before and I didn't have an Si then. So I would run with the Supremacy crew even though I was a biker. What's your IG? Here's mine. @strikedc_rr1k
Candle Jack not true, I installed springs on stock shocks before adding after markets and not only did it eliminate the unwanted wheel gap, the lower center of gravity made the steering more responsive and handling still improved a noticeable amount
Let me know what your favorite mod has been so far! Thanks for watching
Mrblipblop I definitely love my Flashpro, and that goes without saying. But I'd have to say my favorite mod thus far has been my full race 3" dp. I love how it transforms the sound of the car. Even if you aren't bolted up to a Catback it makes significant gains.
9th Gen Si Guy how does stock exhaust sound with dp?
I have full race dp too 😤😛
Dan S I got stock exhaust with skunk 2 cat less downpipe and setup feels sound awesome
Love that you put the shifter bushing in this comparison, most people just put headers, exhaust, yadda yadda seen it all before, know about it already. Big thumbs up man
We wanted to stay focused on the driving aspects. Thanks for watching!
Damn really loved the video i just got a black 15 si and was planning on keeping it stock, besides k-tuned universal muffler just for a deeper tone. seeing how yours sits is perfect. I have read a lot of good reviews on H&R Springs with SPC camber kit. will def be getting these and the acuity bushings.
Downpipe and tune
Ewwww that sound and pull on the GTI in the end though bro! Nice ..my first new car was 07 SI and lost it and am 42 now and picking up a Fiji blue one owner stock engine with 122k m with Tein springs and I can't wait cause he left the engine bone stock I talked him down to 4900 bucks man it's a clean SI got white wheels....dude had style with it I can't wait to get my baby back ....ohhh the joy and fun I am gonna have this time with the build...gonna go 3 inch full race, cold air, header, flashpro, flywheel, TSX cams, stage 2 clutch, tune, and leave it alone and have fun, if ever get bored then hello comptech rep on the phone.
Thats dope! The tune really helps dial in all the mods together for max power. Skunk2 has good bang for buck headers. maybe get it used and save a few $$. I also reviewed a comptech 8thgen, If you havent seen the vid id recommend to check it out!
@@JewelCity1 nice bro thanks Yeah Skunk2 makes some nice gear I will look into it.. I got a couple fabricator welder cnc guys here that wanna make me a downpipe..,the dude had BC coilovers on it and I made him slap the Tein back on. Loved the feel Tein gave but I'm gonna throw Tochiko shocks on instead of stock it has. Should be pulling around 240 whp with that build without breaking into the motor too much maybe some good pulleys but the ride is suck looking wish I could share a pic
@@JewelCity1 what do you think about me running Injen cold air? Just want a solid air delivery that can operate both N/A and F/I that way I don't have to replace and waste money but get something that delivers a strong dense airflow both ways? Thoughts?
@@aprildickerson2065 Hybrid racing or skunk2 3.5in intake
definitely agree with what you said! man .... i've done a lot of stuff to my si but those bushings replacement were my 3rd favorite only behind coils then hondata ..... if i go back in time. 1) suspension/coils 2) wheels 3) retro fit headlights painted black 4) type r badge .. i would do it in that order then id replace the shifter bushings and add engine mods/hondata. but i would purchase exaust, downpipe for NA mods or turbo whichever you decide, and get them installed and tuned all in the same time.
oh and i left out number 5) black out the chrome on the front grill
@@MJ-iq9hv agree that what i did with my 15 si coupe
Lilsanders yeah mine a chips a lil ... a body shop advised me to use vinyl wrap instead
From what I’ve witnessed, the shifter cables, bushings, and the entire assembly for that matter all need to be replaced to make this a hell of a car to shift better. Also make sure you adjust your clutch play to ensure you’re opening it all the way for better shifting. Made a huge difference for me. Hope this helps anyone struggling with their 8th gen SI :)
How did you adjust your clutch play? did you make it open with less travel?
The pull at the end tho ;0)
haha got his ass at the end
awesome review
I love my 9thgen
Clean race at the end
Getting lighter wheels and stickier tires this spring! Can't fucking wait!!! Must have more grip! The gti just wants to spin the factory peirellis.
Good video
Great video! Just got a fg2 looking for a few mods to do
Does lowering springs sacrifice ride comfortability? What would be the best quality springs to go with? Thinking about putting some on my ‘14 si. Thank you!
it feels a bit stiffer but also in a way its more responsive. I went with HR springs bc it is a milder drop than other brands just to clean up the wheel gap
tien coils ... look em up ... it's what i have they are cheap and great ... or bc coilovers
I need to pick some of these up. Besides FBO -RBC i only have a rear motor mount!
I agree with only the 4th mod. Opinion only
Lowering springs in vt roads. Def no no lol
For optimum performance full coilovers are recommended
Shifter cable bushings compromise cable integrity (less play/flex in,bushing,more strain on cable) beware!!!!!
Maybe upgrade to a steel cable for clutch
Trust Honda manufacturing guys. Lowering springs are not needed and you definitely compromise the integrity of the car. Plus risk negative camber which is going to cause you to go through tires alot more quickly. The Si is an amazing car. Honestly a good intake and exhaust will do just fine! Love my Si!
Loving_Lioness for longevity of the car, definitely agree. Most people just want to get rid of the wheel gap and have sportier handling which lowering springs definitely help to achieve
Just get thicker tire walls that also adds to ride quality and absorbs bumps a lot better. Or get 18in rims if you wanna go the most expensive route but worth it over time.
Wouldn't coils be better than lowering springs?
Scoobems depends. If you're tracking the car, go with coils. For a daily springs are less harsh and aggressive (for those who just want to get rid of wheel gap)
if you are going to lower the car, use coils. springs will give you a smoother ride but you drastically lower the weight you can carry in the car without scraping. You lose soooo much practicality lowering on springs.
impossible to agree on that.. Good brand coilovers are far superior to any springs for ride quality.
@@JewelCity1 lowering springs will make your shocks wear out a lot faster. Coils are the way to go or swap the shocks out for aftermarket ones.
coils all day ... there is a reason they are more expensive
When you say Hondata lowers the vtec, does that mean you can make it to where vtec kicks in at a lower rpm?
Alex Farrell yes, vtec kicks in a bit earlier. Can be beneficial when tuning for a more linear power band. As long as it's not vtec at idle or something like 1500rpm.
Lowering vtec without correct cam profile timing will just make the car slower.
Did flashpro negate things like traction control or any other factory feature? Also what type of gains did you get with the flashpro?
nope, you keep all factory features but gain more with hondata
Aye that Golf had a PrimalDriven vinyl on the back right?
recommended, don't get lowering springs, save your money and get coilovers.
Long term ownership, correct
@@JewelCity1 I just put Teins on my 9th gen, and I love it. I've owned the car for 3 years, and have 230k kms on it. Thing still runs like a beaut
That's good news I'll assume you in the states. How many miles on your civic?
I love my hondata
What are the check vsa, power steering, and emission lights for? I have the same on my 13 si
And I assume no cel lights. Can you switch back to factory tune yourself say like for emissions testing? Also, how is the oil consumption on this motor generally?
flashpro actually helps to remove cel when you have certain mods like aftermarket downpipe or intake. you can switch between tunes or back to stock if necessary. oil consumption isnt bad in my opinion. the more you vtec the faster it will run through your oil life but that is expected in a high revving car like this.
hey guys, is it possible to put an aftermarket exhuast system on a 9th gen Honda Civic (VTI-L) Hatback? Havent seen much on youtube or the internet.
Thanks in advance
ihave a question how did u paint the chrome parts? front gril and back?
its so lame i have a 2012 si and it the 9th gen just like the 13,14,15....... but the 12 looks so much different :( i honestly didnt know there was a difference in the body style of the 9th gen honestly i love how yours looks or 2013-14-15.... the tail lights look the best on the 2013-14-15.... do you know if you can put those body piece's on the 2012???
i believe some ppl have swapped the front bumper on their 2012 with a 14-15 bumper, not sure about tail lights
I just bought a 2012 civic si sedan. It honestly grew on me. I love the way it looks. The 13-15 body style are a dime a dozen so it kind of feels good to have something slightly different lol just wish Honda would have stuck with the higher revving K20 in the FA5’s
are these the OE sport springs, Sport Springs, super sport springs, or race springs? I am looking at the sport springs but they say its a 1.25-18" drop and your car seems to have a lower drop than that.
sport springs with a 1.5 ish drop. after springs settle for a while the car sits a little lower thats why it looks like that. it lowered even more after installing aftermarket shocks
ok cool, yea i saw another video where the guys settled at like 1.8-1.9". Thanks for the quick answer man!
How do you like the car tuned vs stock? Does it fee much better?
on these civic SI's a tune makes a huge difference in how the car responds to throttle and shifting. It actually makes it more fun to drive and keeps you engaged.
Lowering springs are trash. They will destroy your stock struts over time. Best to just get coilovers.
How much oil do you add between oil changes?
no more than 1 quart
I stand by falken,tires also!!! Lol again just my opinion
“I don’t spin in 2nd any more mmmmboi if you don’t lmaaao that si ain’t spinning in any gear
Low tq
So I am looking at buying a 2014 or 2015 si. I have an 06 Honda accord and my brother had a 2004 TSX. Both burn oil like muthas. Also have a coworker who had Honda replace the 2012 si motor due to consumption tests under warranty. Myconcern is the k series motor consuming oil. Would you say it's only BC your VTEC'ing often? I know another guy who doesn't beat on his 2014 si and oil consumption is normal. Sorry for the log message in advance
never really had an issue with the oil consumption. signs of low oil or worn oil (at least for me) would be the car feeling sluggish under normal/high acceleration. if you check your oil regularly you shouldn't even come to that point though.
ReyXtractor you should be changing your oil every 2500-3000 miles...if you want your honda to live forever then you gotta take care of it dude. Smh. Lol sorry
@@tymotoboy53 if you're running synthetic then 5000 is fine.
would changing the springs for lower springs void the warranty?
Most definitely. It sucks ass lol
Are h&r sport springs worth it?? I really don't have the money for coilovers at the moment, but desperately wanna get rid of the wheel gap already.
Yes they are, and the drop is really nice but i would suggest getting sport shocks with it so you dont have to install them later. lowering springs will reduce the life of the factory shocks/struts. Theres a vid on my channel that goes more in depth about the HR springs if you want to know more about it
If you get springs you will wear our your stock shocks a lot faster. Stock shocks are designed around stock ride height. Lowering springs causes the stock shocks to be under far more load than they were designed for. They might last 60k, they might last 10k, but eventually they will wear out.
So if you buy springs I'd budget another $250 for Truhart shocks. These shocks are designed for a lowered vehicle. It will also make your car much more comfortable, I am on springs with stock shocks and I am bouncing all over the place. You also need SPC front camber bolts ($30) and a rear camber kit ($150-250). If you Do not get the camber bolts and rear camber kit your alignment will be off and you will wear out your tires much faster. It is cheaper in the long run to get the camber kit and a proper alignment than cheap out and eat up your tires.
If you want you can do springs first and wait until your stock shocks fail to replace them. But you will likely spend more money in labor unless you can do it yourself. I hope this was helpful, I bought an Si with springs and stock shocks and am in the process of cleaning up the previous idiot's mistakes.
Im also on stock shocks and did not need the front camber bolts for alignment. From what ive noticed the 'toe' is what eats up your tires quicker. the negative camber in the rear will just eat the inner sides of the tires quicker COMPARED the the outer edges (depends on how low you are), but relatively at the same rate of normal wear
I disagree. Or rather guys on 9th gen forum have different experiences. Some say their rear tire life was not affected and some had to replace them far earlier than the manufacturer suggested. There's too many variables to predict what exactly will happen to an individuals car. I just know Chris at red shift motorsport recommends the camber kit with any drop over HFP, and he's modified more honda suspensions than just about anyone.
MasteryQuest16 go with eibach springs
Where did number 2 go ??
Hey you're in Anaheim!
Brian Kim 😝😝
Hey i got tha 8th gen fg2 i love it and i wanna shift bushing and intake spacers for my fg2 then bc coilers
which bf goodrich tires exactly ?
g-force sport comp-2 summer tires
Thanks for the quick response. Really like your channel.
I hav a 2013 si bone stock, how the hondata might benefit me?
Tcho2100 higher redline, vtec adjustment, no rev hang, etc. vid explains it more in depth
would hondata tuner be useful at all for my honda civic exl?
No
Seems like you live in LA. Let's meet up at Urth Cafe sometime and help me out with my 2012 Si.
I also go to car meets in the area. we could meet up at one, just let me know
Mrblipblop that works. When's the next car meet? I would attend car meets but I was doing a lot of motorcycle riding before and I didn't have an Si then. So I would run with the Supremacy crew even though I was a biker. What's your IG? Here's mine. @strikedc_rr1k
Mrblipblop the IG is actually @strikedc_rr1k
Megan coilovers or godspeed coilover?
The last true civic si was the 2011 the newers one are not that great
rafael rodriguez lmaooo the last true civic si was the 2015 wym
@@SneakerBrainz im talking about the high rpms the new ones only 7000 redline puffff its a normal civic with si badges 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@rafaelrodriguez7684 its all good no need for that ...its all about practicality . engine will last longer
@@sotorodrigo33 then you should buy the hybrid one last even longer the engine jajajajaaj
@@rafaelrodriguez7684 riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
Sick video, check out my tsx......
I got auto -_-
What
lmfao.....its a 4 door!!!
Springs won't do shit unless you have dampers
Candle Jack not true, I installed springs on stock shocks before adding after markets and not only did it eliminate the unwanted wheel gap, the lower center of gravity made the steering more responsive and handling still improved a noticeable amount