Detroit 2 stroke is by far the most versatile diesel engine ever made period. There's still engines from the late 1930's still running around. Incredible engineering and a joy to work with. Screaming Jimmy!
Agreed! I've been a fan since the 70s, when my dad drove giant off-highway TRIPLE log trucks for Crown Zellerbach here in the Northwest. Kenworths with 12V-71s!
Detroit V series were popular.. But hardly "the best". NO major Diesel Manufacturer uses V config engines anymore.. they don't hold up like the Inlines. I wouldn't give you 2 cents for a V6 Detroit.
@Gay Benny Not better.. and not just my opionion. Had they been better their popularity would have propelled them to widespread use. They were rare in their era and rarer today. A 2 stroke is inherently more maintenence prone to a 4 stroke design. Modern 3406's and Series 60 Detroits clock 1 million miles before overhaul routinely.. V Series Detroits were lucky to last 1/2 that long before overhaul. Inline 4 strokes get better MPG, weigh less, cost less to operate, run at lower rpms.. the 3406E in 800hp config matched the 12v-92's power ratings.. and weighed 700lbs less while being more reliable.
I worked for a company for 30 years before retiring this past October. For nearly 30 years one of my responsibilities was maintaining the 4 Lawless-Detroit gensets we had to power our Mechanized Warehouse in the event of a power outage. 2 were 6-71s, one was an after-cooled 16V71 making 850hp, and the daddy was the 16V92 displacing 1472ci and making 960hp. I had to exercise those wonderful beasts every month. It was a pleasure to hear all 44 of those pistons purring in unison. Those 16V engines ran so smoothly you could stand a nickel on edge and the engine's vibrations wouldn't knock it over. Long live the Detroit 2-strokes.
The 2 stroke detroits are basically perfect analog engineering. They're a marvel, and they owned the industry for 90 years, until emissions regulations phased them out. They're still totally competitive with the "modern" 4 strokes, and in fact, make better power for their weight and size. Dad's boat has a pair of 1375hp 16V92 turbos. They sure do earn the name "screaming jimmy"
I have owned a truck repair shop for 45 years and worked on everything and by far the best truck diesel engine ever built is the Detroit series 60 . good power simple to work on and by far the best fuel mileage
My company back in the 90's pulled heavy on hwy 17 over Lake Superior, 136,000lbs on B trains and 6 axle flatbeds with the 14l Series 60's, 435 horse..... the little engines that could
I tore down and rebuilt caterpillar 3406 engines and after 12,000 hours of operating time they still had very little wear. One tough engine and dependable beyond belief
The Cummins N14 engiines were the best. I was on a tour at the factory and they had one set up in the "test room". They were trying to blow it up. Over-revving, no oil, etc. you get the idea. I watched it run for quite sometime and was totally amazed by the performance of the engine. That was in 1994 and electronic engines were new to trucking. Everyone was scared of them. But they made me a believer!
I had about 8 of those in my fleet. One driver managed to crack the nr 6 cylinder in it… at 2.1 million miles without any rebuilt. Got together all the disbelievers when I pulled the bearings out and they were dated January 1998.
5.9L Cummins in my 2001 Dodge 2500 no problem at all just change the oil, filters & general maintenance and you can’t go wrong I’m at 400,000 miles and a 20’ trailer loaded down with John Deere tractors all the time
I couldn't agree more, I have two 1st gen 12 valve 5.9 trucks both with over 500K on them and the valve covers have never been off. I'd trust mine to go anywhere, any distance, at anytime.
@@jzk3919 I never realized that about that Cummins myself, all that displacement not making more power than what it did??? Makes you wonder what was up with that.
The Caterpillar 3406E engine is good however the 3406B model was much better by far I know that very well because I drove my truck for over 10 years and I only retired that truck because of the strict air pollution control here in California which prohibits the use of those older engines without a smog filter but anyone who knows about diesel engines will agree with me on this the reliability of the 3406B cat is legendary
The briggs and stratton engines are indestructable, my engine is from 2005 and runs like new and if you see the video’s from project farm you can really see how durable they are. A miracle how some engines stil run after his tests. The new B&S engine are not really good, the B&S intek 7200 from my grandpa has 113 hours in 4 years and it is leaking oil.
Best engine ever built was a 671 Detroit I was a Firefighter went on the job when Engines went from gas to diesel we got a 671 ran the balls off it thousands of run on that rig never failed us most dependable thousands of pump hours
The oil leaks of the old 2-stroke Detroit's was simply oil getting past the oil ring on the piston. They were designed to have that oil leak out the air box whereas a 4-stroke engine would burn that oil instead during combustion. Detroit should have simply drained that oil back into the oil pan and they would have been as dry as any other engine out there.
@@kscotthoy since you are unable to comply to respect and are emotionally demanded, i can conclude, that you are completely dumb. you say taht English is a thing. learn it. lol. sorry, but the only mistake is a comma in between a word. that means for everyone with a low IQ, that it is typo from speed. and you conclude that it is something i havent learnt. your conclusions simply have shown what a sorryful sould you are. god, what are you for a loser, because you feel emotionally attacked and cant stand the truth. little child i tell you, if you maintain a russian engine it lasts 10x as long. you lost fully. and no go cry, because YOU are not able to improve anyways.
3208s are not that impressive. Perhaps non-turbo they're good, but turbocharged, they definitely like to crack heads and blow head gaskets. 2500 hours for a 375hp 3208TA in a marine application is good. Because they are not wet sleeve engines, they're basically disposable.
I took to scrap a 1975 Fiat Iveco truck that had been sitting for at least 15 years because truck mechanics couldn't get it to run on 6 cylinders, I kept the Fiat Iveco CP3 6 cyl engine, I tested the pump and injectors, primed it so fuel was getting to injectors, it started at the touch of the starter motor wire to battery, it didn't blow smoke runs on 5 cylinders, should be NO.1 as most of these best motors take ages to get started.
2 stroke detroits are the best. Brilliant engineering, execution and implementation. Owned the industry for 90 years. If you're a fan, I recommend you read the history of them, and how they were the brainchild of a very brilliant engineer/boss at GM named Charles F. Kettering - the namesake of the school where I got my engineering degree.
Space Ghost 53 looks like u dont understand on how bad other stuff really is like ur wireless internet or Bluetooth or smart meters that couze cancer comparte to an diesel engine!
DEF is worst for the environment, ever been in a truck shop behind those trucks with them running.... nasty, besides sure it may "Clean then up" however Diesel is not made to run restricted, Just like a Marathon runner needs lots of clean unrestricted air to run long distances, so do Diesels. My Engine is 27 years old with 970k miles preemission and gets the same/ better fuel economy as the new ones due to cleaner air and 2000+lbs lighter not having the emissions stuff. Used to get 12.7 loaded before they changed Fuel types and run this crappy new grade fuel, that acts more like gas. Personally which is worse? 1.) A truck that gets twice the fuel economy but is dirtier, or 2.) A truck that's cleaner but burns twice the fuel? A. #1 its releasing less emissions over time, besides C02 isn't a bad thing people tend to forget trees use this stuff to produce O2.
The Detroit 6V92 you're showing at the start of that section is a twin-turbocharged 6V92TTA and was built by Terry Shoebridge (aka Shoey Diesel) and went into a 1984 Silver Eagle motorhome. It's a DDEC electronic version and was mated to a Allison electronically controlled automatic transmission
Ever wonder why there isn’t anything out there to compete with it. Kind of makes you wonder why volkswagon got their hand slapped in the emissions thing.
Joseph Meeker it is not a piece of crap, the powerstroke 7.3 are the best engines ever made for pickup trucks and medium duty trucks. Maybe you had bad luck
The 3512’s I ran as a Motorman in the Bakken, 9 different units across 3 rigs- all of them were just minty 👌. I loved working with those diesels. Always came online, always delivered the goods when driller needed to pull a string out of a 21,000’ hole, that bent at 90 degrees. The 1325kW Kato’s behind them were just as dependable.
In reading all your comments on diesel engines your all basically right, every owner has there best opinion, but the number one key to engine reliability is maintenance, oil changes, all fluids. Drive belts on engines also. So keep up to date great maintenance record to hand to next owner if you sell your truck or car, it shows great care of the vehicle.
I can think of more than a few 2 stroke diesels that were reliable, took punishment readily and could be rebuilt over and over and over. Nevermind the complaints about noise and smoke, I would put them up against the 4 strokers.
Tony Mullins I was just about to ask the same question!!! N14 rocks I hade 2,000,049 miles and I just got remanufactured N14 so far so good runs great!!!
The Series 60 dominated the highway market in the 90s and 00s. Nothing came close to Detroit’s market share in class 8 trucks at that time. Leaving it and N-14/855s off this list was wrong.
We had a account who had 14 single axle GMC brigadiers with 6-71s. Over half of them hit the 1 million mile mark doing normal maintance. The ones thet didn't make the 1m mile mark useally needed a head & blower rebuild around 750,000 miles. Millons were made and around 25% are still in service around the world! Theres enough out there, in service that roger penske bought it and remarketed it. My most favorite engine ever. Still get calls for info and work in 2021.
When I worked at USF Holland, most of trucks had the Cat C15. What an indestructible engine . Someof the fuel island guys were very unmerciful. In the dead of winter, hard starting enginges were run to max govern . None of them ever broke
I am no expert on diesel engines, by any means, but I do love to hear them run and to smell the diesel exhaust. For my 2 cents worth; In my small amount of experience, The 45 hp Perkins 4 cylinder, on my early 60s Massey Ferguson tractor is the best starting diesel I have used, or seen. A good battery and it will start in any weather, almost at the click of the starter switch. Very dependable and fuel efficient, also. I have no idea how many hours are on it, but it has been used, a lot, in it's 60, or so years, and has never been rebuilt. There are so many different applications that use Diesel engines that I don't think the author of this post, or any one person, could, authoritatively, say which are the actual best 6 engines. Just to name a few, you have: OTR trucks, light to medium duty trucks, heavy equipment, heavier equipment, as in mining, automobiles, big ships, small ships. lawn mowers, generators, big tractors, small tractors, locomotives. The list goes on. I think generalizing, by manufacturer, is about the best any one, highly experienced, person could do.
Yes the Caterpillar 3406E/C15/C16 is an excellent engine. But-I think the most reliable engine ever made is the Caterpillar 3406B/C mechanical engine. It is so reliable, Caterpillar still makes the 3406C for countries that do not want an electronic engine and also make it in a natural gas version (along with the 3408G and 3412G).
Tom Christman Yeppers you must be an older fella like me. Pittsburgh diesel has done miracles with older mechanical 3406B/C Cummins big cam, newer> >Red top N-14, Cat 475 I almost messed myself with him calling a V 92 in the greatest categories. DETROIT DIESELS were a nightmare plus fuel hogs 3.5 MPG. 60 SERIES WAS THE Best thing Detroit came out with in 60 yrs. Except for bull gears going bad. Give me an older 3406 or 400 big cam or N-14 any day of the week. :)
This is why I'm converting my '85 KW 90" Aerodyne with 3406B JWAC into a motorhome. I took out the 13spd and installed an Allison 740-what a hot rod now!
I have said many times that I think the 3406B is the best engine ever made, BUT it wouldn't hurt my feelings if I never saw another 3412. The 3508 is much better than the 3412 and the c32 is garbage.
Took a Detroit 671 to 20,000 hours. It never breathed any dirt, just clean ocean air, and only got shut down ever 250 hours for oil change. Also, being a generator, always ran at constant throttle, which was all out!
Had a Buick with one of GM's 350 V-8's converted to diesel. 227,000 miles without a hitch! But then I had a master mechanic burn my user's manual and tell me how to take care of it. But to a great degree that's where it's at: fanatical maintenance!
Yeah no, internationals were trash and it really showed when you got to the 6.0 and you had to start pushing that outdated platform a little to compete. The 7.3 is loved because it was the only international v8 that you could reasonably expect to not take a shit on you and that's because it was detuned af
@@wizard_of_poz4413 in 96 the only reasonable trucks to buy for work were 12v pumped or a 7.3. lol. And it took gmc/chevy to catch up and even then they had the reliability issues of 6.0s... idk man you just seem a tinge derped and biased to me. The 6.5s were absolute butt
@@kieran8720 nah, I think all the pickup diesels were mediocre. I mean I guess the Cummins was fairly decent but I've never been impressed with them. Idk why ford couldn't put the 6.6 in the truck and be done.
The best diesel I have seen is the one Toyota they put on 1987 Land Cruiser HJ61.It only takes a complete revolution and a half to start it and fire right away! Quicker than any of my previous gas engine in comparison.In summer time it doesn't need the glow plug ,it starts right away.
The original 2.5 liter direct injection Diesel on the Ford Transit will do that as well, maybe even within one revolution. Not only doesn't need glow plugs, but doesn't have them.
My 1990 Dodge Cummins started fast. I bypassed the clutch switch so I could start with out pushing the pedal. I would sleep on the front seat and start the truck in the morning and get some heat before I would get up. One time the truck was in gear and it started, with a three car trailer fully loaded. He started hopping towards the fuel island, with me in a sleeping bag. Those were the days.
No mention of the Ford-Lehman 120 HP 6 cylinder diesel that started as a British tractor engine but when marinized, it powered thousands of trawlers and sailboats in the 70's and 80's, reputed to go up to 15000 hours before overhaul.
Also the 6BG1 and DA640 from isuzu. Those were great engines. The DA640 of ours didn't require engine rebuilt since it was bought during 1985. About a million kilometers on the clock.
The only one that was running properly (a few of them had bad glow plugs) was that Caterpillar 3406 which was the only one I would put in the top ten of all time.
The best engine would be a 1991 3406B super responsive and reliable next comes the cummins. Take it from me I have a fleet of 9 dump trucks and pickups.
Glad to see the 6.9/7.3 IDI made it, it's my fav. But damn could you find a worse video for one? There's a lot of epic IDIs out there these days, and plenty of them on UA-cam.
Howard Rourke i agree, the idi's are my favoeite diesel enigne as well. He also had the specs wrong in the video. He forgot that the 1993 and 1994 non-turbo made 360ftlbs touqe.
Really, the DT466 should be put before the 6.9/7.3 engines. Been around since the 60's in farm tractors before offering them in Medium duty trucks. A well proven reliable motor, thats until the emissions regulations killed engines....smh
Quick, yeah as of writing this I own 3 IDIs, one of which I just scored is a factory IDIT/ZF5 combo in a 94 F350 crew-cab 4wd. Another is a 4WD 7.3/E4OD combo in a Centurion C350 4-Door Bronco. You could say I'm onto these Fords, lol.
PMG, yeah I'd take a DT466 over a 6BT any day. But in a F350 size application the DT466 is too much motor with too little revs. Now in an application where I can put a 10+ speed transmission behind it but don't quite need a 3406 then heck yeah. EDIT... However wouldn't put it over the 7.3IDI, it has three things going for it that are unique attributes. 1. Being IDI it's not at all picky about fuel, 2. They spin, stock redline is 3700 but with some tweaking they'll really spin and like it. 3, They're light and compact by diesel standards, not much bigger or heavier then a gas 460.
Its a 2 stroke-- they're known for getting stuck wide open and the engine running away with no way to turn it off--- so it blows itself up. Go look up some of those videos. lol
Look at those so called great diesels, their performance is much weaker than a normal truck engine, where is the greatness of these things, I simply don't get it at all.
The N14 was my favorite by far. 3406 E ,C15 second same engine other than valve adjustments , Mack 235 third , 60 series fourth, b an c series Cummins, the Detroit 2 stroke v92 was ok , m11 cummins ok, ism is an egr version ok, isx signature series came out limited in 1999 rocked 600 hp then. least favorite any international engine including powerstoke.
I think they forgot to mention - this is 'best engines' from an American perspective. That's why you don't see most of the much better engines on here.
@@garethifan1034 i kinda doubt even that, there's no 12v straight 6 Cummins so i'm not sure what this guys view came from... mind maybe its just they forgot "in my mind" at the end of the title...
My short list of best diesel engines for heavy/industrial use would be the Cat C-12, Detroit 60 series, Cummins ISX 12, Detroit 8v92, Cat 3512C, and the Cummins QSK50. I would like to throw the Detroit 4000v and the DD15 in there as well, but the 4000v's I've worked with have been temperamental and the DD15 hasn't been tested long enough.
Cummins 12 valve 5.9L and 8.3L are the engines that paved the way. 8.3's are used in boats, generators, buses, excavators, trucks and motorhomes. 5.9's with Bosch 7100 p-pump set the land speed record in a Banks power dodge dakota.
Ive lost track of how many different diesel engines ive owned and ive never had a bad one. A lot depends on how you treat them, but the Cummins 8.3 has probably been the best. got a lot of time for the straight six fords, bullet proof for a light engine.
No other sound quite like a revving up Turbo Diesel truck, it's that whistle 😩👌 Subtle yet powerful, up there with the sound of "Ole Painless" from Predator.
"Of all time" should include Detroit Diesel 6-71. (I believe the -92 you feature is basically the same engine with more displacement, and in this case more cylinders/V-configuration.) This thing powered everything from WWII landing craft to the early semis. (I can still remember following these rigs up steep hills on Route 30 in Western Pennsylvania at about 13 mph.) Disassembling and reassembling a 6-71 was part of the Navy and Coast Guard "Engineman" training in the early to mid-70s. First came out in 1938 and still made - mostly boat engines now. Newer designs, many of which you have featured, are undoubtedly better truck engines.
Shinobi Shileno cummins just isnt as great as the american think 😂 the mercedes om606 is way better no rebuild is needed to convert an n/a engine with bigger pumpelements and a turbo to over 600hp.
Blinkered choice - Lister CS first cold start diesel - Peugeot / Citroen XUD series - the engine that brought diesel cars to the masses - I'm fond of the 1990's 2.5 lt 12 valve pre common rail PSA T9A van engine that's bulletproof with things like under piston spray jets and hydraulic tappets
Maybe someone on here can help me,I recall in late 1990's we had a roadgrader that was powered by an International UD?? series engine.The engine had what I thought was a very unusal starting system.By setting a control lever the engine which was equipped with spark plugs on one side of the engine could be started on gasoline.The machine was equipped with a very small gasoline tank,as soon as the engine started on gas,the controls were set and the engine operated as a Diesel.Only ever saw one other engine do that,it was used on an International bulldozer.The Roadgrader was very old,when we were using it,mainly to push snow off the road inside the plant.Anyone else remember these engines?
Yeah my dad had one of them in an old Galion Motor Grader back in the early 80's. If i remember right it was about a1952. Was the first grader i ever run. No matter how cold it was, if you could get that thing to start on gas, you get get it to run on diesel. I never could figure out why they quit making them. It was a hell of a design.
The International diesel that you are referring to was used in farm tractors and road graders and I believe it was first used in the late 1930's In the 1980's, I attempted to overhaul one in a road grader but had to abandon the project because both cylinder heads were cracked and new ones were not available.
......................................I had one of them 6.9's..........old' eye-burner.............................and the 7.3 died in Wyoming (weather was cold & engine was a 7.3, end of story).
Detroit 2 stroke is by far the most versatile diesel engine ever made period. There's still engines from the late 1930's still running around. Incredible engineering and a joy to work with. Screaming Jimmy!
Agreed! I've been a fan since the 70s, when my dad drove giant off-highway TRIPLE log trucks for Crown Zellerbach here in the Northwest. Kenworths with 12V-71s!
@@pookysdad4884 Detroit Diesels literally built modern america.
@@Adamz678 They sure did. My dad loved them, and so do I.
Detroit V series were popular.. But hardly "the best". NO major Diesel Manufacturer uses V config engines anymore.. they don't hold up like the Inlines. I wouldn't give you 2 cents for a V6 Detroit.
@Gay Benny Not better.. and not just my opionion. Had they been better their popularity would have propelled them to widespread use. They were rare in their era and rarer today. A 2 stroke is inherently more maintenence prone to a 4 stroke design. Modern 3406's and Series 60 Detroits clock 1 million miles before overhaul routinely.. V Series Detroits were lucky to last 1/2 that long before overhaul. Inline 4 strokes get better MPG, weigh less, cost less to operate, run at lower rpms.. the 3406E in 800hp config matched the 12v-92's power ratings.. and weighed 700lbs less while being more reliable.
I worked for a company for 30 years before retiring this past October. For nearly 30 years one of my responsibilities was maintaining the 4 Lawless-Detroit gensets we had to power our Mechanized Warehouse in the event of a power outage. 2 were 6-71s, one was an after-cooled 16V71 making 850hp, and the daddy was the 16V92 displacing 1472ci and making 960hp. I had to exercise those wonderful beasts every month. It was a pleasure to hear all 44 of those pistons purring in unison. Those 16V engines ran so smoothly you could stand a nickel on edge and the engine's vibrations wouldn't knock it over.
Long live the Detroit 2-strokes.
The 2 stroke detroits are basically perfect analog engineering. They're a marvel, and they owned the industry for 90 years, until emissions regulations phased them out. They're still totally competitive with the "modern" 4 strokes, and in fact, make better power for their weight and size. Dad's boat has a pair of 1375hp 16V92 turbos. They sure do earn the name "screaming jimmy"
The best device available for converting diesel fuel to noise....I have an 8v53 and a 6v71....love em to death....simple reliable design.
I love my twin 8V71TI's
1980 gmc general 8v92 screamer. Original owner, still use on the farm
I have owned a truck repair shop for 45 years and worked on everything and by far the best truck diesel engine ever built is the Detroit series 60 . good power simple to work on and by far the best fuel mileage
My company back in the 90's pulled heavy on hwy 17 over Lake Superior, 136,000lbs on B trains and 6 axle flatbeds with the 14l Series 60's, 435 horse..... the little engines that could
I tore down and rebuilt caterpillar 3406 engines and after 12,000 hours of operating time they still had very little wear. One tough engine and dependable beyond belief
The Cummins N14 engiines were the best. I was on a tour at the factory and they had one set up in the "test room". They were trying to blow it up. Over-revving, no oil, etc. you get the idea. I watched it run for quite sometime and was totally amazed by the performance of the engine. That was in 1994 and electronic engines were new to trucking. Everyone was scared of them. But they made me a believer!
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I had about 8 of those in my fleet. One driver managed to crack the nr 6 cylinder in it… at 2.1 million miles without any rebuilt. Got together all the disbelievers when I pulled the bearings out and they were dated January 1998.
Drove my 3406E for 5 years in the 90's, I miss it to this day
get you another ol son. we have a fleet of them in minty flat top 379s.
I love how this is about the greateat diesels yet nearly every one took forever to crank up
Agree! Ive experienced a 45hp perkins engine in a massey furguson 135 without heater plugs starting in one click at a cold start!
5.9L Cummins in my 2001 Dodge 2500 no problem at all just change the oil, filters & general maintenance and you can’t go wrong I’m at 400,000 miles and a 20’ trailer loaded down with John Deere tractors all the time
I couldn't agree more, I have two 1st gen 12 valve 5.9 trucks both with over 500K on them and the valve covers have never been off. I'd trust mine to go anywhere, any distance, at anytime.
Cummins 6BT? Only the most popular 6 cylinder diesel ever made.
Is it though?
the world not america
Needs to be titled "6 diesel engines "
"6 tired diesel engines"
"Cummins" 18.8 liter??? That`s about the displacement of ten other diesels...
@@jzk3919 I never realized that about that Cummins myself, all that displacement not making more power than what it did??? Makes you wonder what was up with that.
The Caterpillar 3406E engine is good however the 3406B model was much better by far I know that very well because I drove my truck for over 10 years and I only retired that truck because of the strict air pollution control here in California which prohibits the use of those older engines without a smog filter but anyone who knows about diesel engines will agree with me on this the reliability of the 3406B cat is legendary
Grew up on one in a w900. Still going to this day.
From 3406a to c15 acerts, most changes were emission related. Even the shade of yellow stayed the same.
I'm in love. Cat 3406 and Cummins KTA19 are lovely engines! Great power and fairly easy to work on.
The briggs and stratton 2 1/2 hp damn good motor hell of a grass cutter
And the ~12hp I/C engines are the best
The briggs and stratton engines are indestructable, my engine is from 2005 and runs like new and if you see the video’s from project farm you can really see how durable they are. A miracle how some engines stil run after his tests. The new B&S engine are not really good, the B&S intek 7200 from my grandpa has 113 hours in 4 years and it is leaking oil.
Best engine ever built was a 671 Detroit I was a Firefighter went on the job when Engines went from gas to diesel we got a 671 ran the balls off it thousands of run on that rig never failed us most dependable thousands of pump hours
this is correct. 671 was a extraordinary reliable engine. 6V92 mentioned here a BIG piece of shit !!!
Ran one in a 1955 PD4104 GMC 35ft Highway Bus for 20 yrs. 19mpg on stretch down the I-15 Idaho to LA. Started in stupid cold in Canada many times..
And you could never stop all the oil leaks, good in the rust belt keep the chassis from rusting.
also burned oil and fuel like crazy used in lots of boats here in south fl.
The oil leaks of the old 2-stroke Detroit's was simply oil getting past the oil ring on the piston. They were designed to have that oil leak out the air box whereas a 4-stroke engine would burn that oil instead during combustion. Detroit should have simply drained that oil back into the oil pan and they would have been as dry as any other engine out there.
Diesel mechanic since the early 80's, L10 Cummins and 3208 Cats were two of the best in my opinion.
US total bullsh engines. absolutely useless. dirty and high consumption, lou,d
I've got a marine Cat 3208NA in my boat, if properly maintained you can expect up to 20,000 hours from them.
@@MrTiti You are clearly talking out of your ass. Also, English is a thing, learn it.
@@kscotthoy since you are unable to comply to respect and are emotionally demanded, i can conclude, that you are completely dumb.
you say taht English is a thing. learn it.
lol.
sorry, but the only mistake is a comma in between a word. that means for everyone with a low IQ, that it is typo from speed.
and you conclude that it is something i havent learnt.
your conclusions simply have shown what a sorryful sould you are.
god, what are you for a loser, because you feel emotionally attacked and cant stand the truth.
little child i tell you, if you maintain a russian engine it lasts 10x as long.
you lost fully. and no go cry, because YOU are not able to improve anyways.
3208s are not that impressive. Perhaps non-turbo they're good, but turbocharged, they definitely like to crack heads and blow head gaskets. 2500 hours for a 375hp 3208TA in a marine application is good. Because they are not wet sleeve engines, they're basically disposable.
Cummins NTC/855- bulletproof motors!
I took to scrap a 1975 Fiat Iveco truck that had been sitting for at least 15 years because truck mechanics couldn't get it to run on 6 cylinders, I kept the Fiat Iveco CP3 6 cyl engine, I tested the pump and injectors, primed it so fuel was getting to injectors, it started at the touch of the starter motor wire to battery, it didn't blow smoke runs on 5 cylinders, should be NO.1 as most of these best motors take ages to get started.
My B model 3406s were they best engines I ever owned!
Deutz from 912 series and MWM cousins, perfect for tractors in small farm business, and Peugeot 1,9l XUD-9, perfect for hatchback under a metric ton.
Love that gorgeous 6v92. :D I am a Detroit 2 stroke diesel fan. Glad that motor got the respect it deserves and made the cut
2 stroke detroits are the best. Brilliant engineering, execution and implementation. Owned the industry for 90 years. If you're a fan, I recommend you read the history of them, and how they were the brainchild of a very brilliant engineer/boss at GM named Charles F. Kettering - the namesake of the school where I got my engineering degree.
12 valve cummins... hands down needs to be on here
It is
@@raymondshiver6068 no it isn't, no 5.9 6bt on here.
The 24 valve 5.9 is better in my opinion. It’s better for tuning and just as reliable
One of the best Cummins 8.3 6 in line,ummmmm one the best in the world!!
The old route master London bus engines
ALL diesel engines are great! Till they slapped emissions control crap on them!
Space Ghost 53 you get more cancer from a gas engine
. they pollute more than diesel.they need to come up with a better way than the dpf and def fluid
Space Ghost 53 looks like u dont understand on how bad other stuff really is like ur wireless internet or Bluetooth or smart meters that couze cancer comparte to an diesel engine!
DEF is worst for the environment, ever been in a truck shop behind those trucks with them running.... nasty, besides sure it may "Clean then up" however Diesel is not made to run restricted, Just like a Marathon runner needs lots of clean unrestricted air to run long distances, so do Diesels. My Engine is 27 years old with 970k miles preemission and gets the same/ better fuel economy as the new ones due to cleaner air and 2000+lbs lighter not having the emissions stuff. Used to get 12.7 loaded before they changed Fuel types and run this crappy new grade fuel, that acts more like gas. Personally which is worse? 1.) A truck that gets twice the fuel economy but is dirtier, or 2.) A truck that's cleaner but burns twice the fuel? A. #1 its releasing less emissions over time, besides C02 isn't a bad thing people tend to forget trees use this stuff to produce O2.
kubota is the cleanest and most reliable and environmental frirendly diesel engines in the world and cheapest on the market from 6.9hp up to 171hp
Michael Cuff dpf and egr killed the reputation diesels had.
The Detroit 6V92 you're showing at the start of that section is a twin-turbocharged 6V92TTA and was built by Terry Shoebridge (aka Shoey Diesel) and went into a 1984 Silver Eagle motorhome. It's a DDEC electronic version and was mated to a Allison electronically controlled automatic transmission
I bought a new VW Golf TDI in 2001. That car is still on the road and it has 340K miles on it. It also still gets over 45 MPG.
Ever wonder why there isn’t anything out there to compete with it. Kind of makes you wonder why volkswagon got their hand slapped in the emissions thing.
1.9 TDI AFN and PD engines no?
6-71 Detroit Diesel was the Best Diesel Engine of All time.
Close second was the DT-466 International.
3406 Cat was damn, damn good, as well.
Helve Hammer after D-12 Volvo engine!
International DT466 is a boat anchor it's a piece of crap
Joseph Meeker it is not a piece of crap, the powerstroke 7.3 are the best engines ever made for pickup trucks and medium duty trucks. Maybe you had bad luck
The 3512’s I ran as a Motorman in the Bakken, 9 different units across 3 rigs- all of them were just minty 👌.
I loved working with those diesels. Always came online, always delivered the goods when driller needed to pull a string out of a 21,000’ hole, that bent at 90 degrees. The 1325kW Kato’s behind them were just as dependable.
@@luisg8946 Nothing against the 7.3L Powerstroke - it was a good engine. But the 12V Cummins was the "best" diesel ever put into a pickup.
In reading all your comments on diesel engines your all basically right, every owner has there best opinion, but the number one key to engine reliability is maintenance, oil changes, all fluids. Drive belts on engines also. So keep up to date great maintenance record to hand to next owner if you sell your truck or car, it shows great care of the vehicle.
Detroit 60 series 12.7 another damn good motor
I can think of more than a few 2 stroke diesels that were reliable, took punishment readily and could be rebuilt over and over and over. Nevermind the complaints about noise and smoke, I would put them up against the 4 strokers.
Well this video is a lie were is the N14 and Detroit seires 60,
Tony Mullins I was just about to ask the same question!!! N14 rocks I hade 2,000,049 miles and I just got remanufactured N14 so far so good runs great!!!
The Series 60 dominated the highway market in the 90s and 00s. Nothing came close to Detroit’s market share in class 8 trucks at that time. Leaving it and N-14/855s off this list was wrong.
Yes, a big mistake to exclude Cummins N14 and Detroit series 60.
There are N-14 from early 90`s still working great!
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Amazing
how about the old 6-71,grand daddy of them all, they were built for about 60 years. all of these others are new commers
We had a account who had 14 single axle GMC brigadiers with 6-71s. Over half of them hit the 1 million mile mark doing normal maintance. The ones thet didn't make the 1m mile mark useally needed a head & blower rebuild around 750,000 miles. Millons were made and around 25% are still in service around the world! Theres enough out there, in service that roger penske bought it and remarketed it. My most favorite engine ever. Still get calls for info and work in 2021.
tbh allways loved the sound of a 671
When I worked at USF Holland, most of trucks had the Cat C15.
What an indestructible engine .
Someof the fuel island guys were very unmerciful. In the dead of winter, hard starting enginges were run to max govern .
None of them ever broke
I'll keep my Big Cam 3's Thankyou
Wow u skipped the Detroit series 60, the Cummins N14 and the 7.3 power stroke? Damn...
not having the 12v cummins but the idi, yikes and I like IDI's.
"Three Headed CAT" For some reason painting a Cummins yellow and putting a cat sticker on it makes it more drivable for too many truck drivers.
Glad to see the ol idi on here!!!
Why did you leave out the 6-71 Detroit and the 855 cu. in. Cummins????????
I am no expert on diesel engines, by any means, but I do love to hear them run and to smell the diesel exhaust. For my 2 cents worth; In my small amount of experience, The 45 hp Perkins 4 cylinder, on my early 60s Massey Ferguson tractor is the best starting diesel I have used, or seen. A good battery and it will start in any weather, almost at the click of the starter switch. Very dependable and fuel efficient, also. I have no idea how many hours are on it, but it has been used, a lot, in it's 60, or so years, and has never been rebuilt. There are so many different applications that use Diesel engines that I don't think the author of this post, or any one person, could, authoritatively, say which are the actual best 6 engines. Just to name a few, you have: OTR trucks, light to medium duty trucks, heavy equipment, heavier equipment, as in mining, automobiles, big ships, small ships. lawn mowers, generators, big tractors, small tractors, locomotives. The list goes on. I think generalizing, by manufacturer, is about the best any one, highly experienced, person could do.
Yes the Caterpillar 3406E/C15/C16 is an excellent engine. But-I think the most reliable engine ever made is the Caterpillar 3406B/C mechanical engine. It is so reliable, Caterpillar still makes the 3406C for countries that do not want an electronic engine and also make it in a natural gas version (along with the 3408G and 3412G).
Tom Christman so true.
Tom Christman Yeppers you must be an older fella like me. Pittsburgh diesel has done miracles with older mechanical 3406B/C Cummins big cam, newer> >Red top N-14, Cat 475 I almost messed myself with him calling a V 92 in the greatest categories. DETROIT DIESELS were a nightmare plus fuel hogs 3.5 MPG. 60 SERIES WAS THE Best thing Detroit came out with in 60 yrs. Except for bull gears going bad. Give me an older 3406 or 400 big cam or N-14 any day of the week. :)
tenemos 6 camiones CAT con 3406E ya superan las 25000hs !
This is why I'm converting my '85 KW 90" Aerodyne with 3406B JWAC into a motorhome. I took out the 13spd and installed an Allison 740-what a hot rod now!
I have said many times that I think the 3406B is the best engine ever made, BUT it wouldn't hurt my feelings if I never saw another 3412. The 3508 is much better than the 3412 and the c32 is garbage.
Took a Detroit 671 to 20,000 hours. It never breathed any dirt, just clean ocean air, and only got shut down ever 250 hours for oil change. Also, being a generator, always ran at constant throttle, which was all out!
Had a Buick with one of GM's 350 V-8's converted to diesel. 227,000 miles without a hitch! But then I had a master mechanic burn my user's manual and tell me how to take care of it. But to a great degree that's where it's at: fanatical maintenance!
All diesel engines sounds great!
Finally Cummins is there. Who others waiting for Cummins 🙋
Des monstres 👍👏🏻🤗
12v and 7.3psd were pretty good for the pickup truck class. Maybe just my opinion
He featured the 7.3 international harvester engine which is the same as the 7.3 in the IDI fords.
Yeah no, internationals were trash and it really showed when you got to the 6.0 and you had to start pushing that outdated platform a little to compete.
The 7.3 is loved because it was the only international v8 that you could reasonably expect to not take a shit on you and that's because it was detuned af
@@wizard_of_poz4413 in 96 the only reasonable trucks to buy for work were 12v pumped or a 7.3. lol. And it took gmc/chevy to catch up and even then they had the reliability issues of 6.0s... idk man you just seem a tinge derped and biased to me. The 6.5s were absolute butt
@@kieran8720 nah, I think all the pickup diesels were mediocre. I mean I guess the Cummins was fairly decent but I've never been impressed with them.
Idk why ford couldn't put the 6.6 in the truck and be done.
7.3L Powerstroke is badass
As soon as the cummins came to life it looked like it was trying to kill those guys
You sound like a dodge boy.
Nice. Really nice.
we have a 6-71 Detroit Diesel with over 15 million miles on it and it has never been rebuilt
Bucyrus Erie bullshit
Does he mean 1.5 ?
Either way it's Bull, part of what made the old 2strokes popular is they were cheap to overhaul
Bull Horse 🤣😂
Cool video, thanks!
The best diesel I have seen is the one Toyota they put on 1987 Land Cruiser HJ61.It only takes a complete revolution and a half to start it and fire right away! Quicker than any of my previous gas engine in comparison.In summer time it doesn't need the glow plug ,it starts right away.
The original 2.5 liter direct injection Diesel on the Ford Transit will do that as well, maybe even within one revolution. Not only doesn't need glow plugs, but doesn't have them.
12HT then.
My 1990 Dodge Cummins started fast. I bypassed the clutch switch so I could start with out pushing the pedal. I would sleep on the front seat and start the truck in the morning and get some heat before I would get up. One time the truck was in gear and it started, with a three car trailer fully loaded. He started hopping towards the fuel island, with me in a sleeping bag. Those were the days.
6 best diesel engine of all time
something miss
cat c15
cummins n14
scania v8
detroit series 60
mack e9
ford 7.3l powerstroke
No mention of the Ford-Lehman 120 HP 6 cylinder diesel that started as a British tractor engine but when marinized, it powered thousands of trawlers and sailboats in the 70's and 80's, reputed to go up to 15000 hours before overhaul.
I think you mean 150,000 hours, they’re not even run in at 15,000.
Also the 6BG1 and DA640 from isuzu. Those were great engines. The DA640 of ours didn't require engine rebuilt since it was bought during 1985. About a million kilometers on the clock.
This vid should be titled 6 diesel engines I had videos of. The 6 best? not by a long shot.
4thstooge All of the video are good diesel engines, but there are some missing
That is hilarious!👍🇺🇸
It would have been better to split them off into two groups: Ones that can fit in a car, and ones that are the size of a car.
The only one that was running properly (a few of them had bad glow plugs) was that Caterpillar 3406 which was the only one I would put in the top ten of all time.
The best engine would be a 1991 3406B super responsive and reliable next comes the cummins. Take it from me I have a fleet of 9 dump trucks and pickups.
agreed , power , durability , maintain it and maybe 1,000,000 miles
Glad to see the 6.9/7.3 IDI made it, it's my fav. But damn could you find a worse video for one? There's a lot of epic IDIs out there these days, and plenty of them on UA-cam.
Howard Rourke i agree, the idi's are my favoeite diesel enigne as well. He also had the specs wrong in the video. He forgot that the 1993 and 1994 non-turbo made 360ftlbs touqe.
Really, the DT466 should be put before the 6.9/7.3 engines. Been around since the 60's in farm tractors before offering them in Medium duty trucks. A well proven reliable motor, thats until the emissions regulations killed engines....smh
Quick, yeah as of writing this I own 3 IDIs, one of which I just scored is a factory IDIT/ZF5 combo in a 94 F350 crew-cab 4wd. Another is a 4WD 7.3/E4OD combo in a Centurion C350 4-Door Bronco. You could say I'm onto these Fords, lol.
PMG, yeah I'd take a DT466 over a 6BT any day. But in a F350 size application the DT466 is too much motor with too little revs. Now in an application where I can put a 10+ speed transmission behind it but don't quite need a 3406 then heck yeah. EDIT... However wouldn't put it over the 7.3IDI, it has three things going for it that are unique attributes. 1. Being IDI it's not at all picky about fuel, 2. They spin, stock redline is 3700 but with some tweaking they'll really spin and like it. 3, They're light and compact by diesel standards, not much bigger or heavier then a gas 460.
Seriously that was the second worst running IDI I've ever seen
Nothing sounds better!
Mercedes OM606 and Cummins 5.9 definitely belong to top five. But really... OM617, OM602, OM606... any of these will do.
But it was not in the MB 124 series car!
Nothing better than the Detroit
My clear favorite is the Detroit, it's the real thing! The other ones are just toys :-)
Its a 2 stroke-- they're known for getting stuck wide open and the engine running away with no way to turn it off--- so it blows itself up. Go look up some of those videos. lol
Can't believe that the DDA 6-71 and the Cummins 855 weren't included
I'm surprised the 7.3 and 6.9 idi was on there instead of the International 7.3 turbo. And no 12v cummins? shame
Diesels are great for pulling plenty of torque and sounds great with a big bore love em
and forgot a CAT 3408!!
Gardner, AEC, Perkins, Leyland, Rolls Royce, the Brits made some fantastic diesels as well...
....whoever posted this obviously has very little experience or knowledge of diesel engines
agree ....
Look at those so called great diesels, their performance is much weaker than a normal truck engine, where is the greatness of these things, I simply don't get it at all.
rick steele Thanks for saving me 7 minutes of my life I owe you one ☝️
Any big cam Cummins should be up there with the 3406
And who in the heck would think a aspirated engine would be good that Ford 6.9 was a big boat anchor
Great vid!
What do you diesel guys think of the Detroit 8V-71 non turbo for a motor coach application?
Supposedly the Ford passenger cars offered the BMW diesels in some of the cars though I never seen one.
The N14 was my favorite by far. 3406 E ,C15 second same engine other than valve adjustments , Mack 235 third , 60 series fourth, b an c series Cummins, the Detroit 2 stroke v92 was ok , m11 cummins ok, ism is an egr version ok, isx signature series came out limited in 1999 rocked 600 hp then. least favorite any international engine including powerstoke.
I love those ole Detroit's
Also didn’t mention the Inline 6 FORD Brazilian Diesel engine back in the 80’s or 90’s 👍🏼
@5:58 very useful indeed that exaust manifold!
Where is any kind of Gardner,6LW,6LX or 6LXB? Still thousands powering boats after retiring from life on the road.
I think they forgot to mention - this is 'best engines' from an American perspective. That's why you don't see most of the much better engines on here.
@@garethifan1034 i kinda doubt even that, there's no 12v straight 6 Cummins so i'm not sure what this guys view came from... mind maybe its just they forgot "in my mind" at the end of the title...
The 6.9 and 7.3 were probally the best diesels made... owned a few and regret ever getting rid of those trucks
International DT466 needs to be on that list.
I fully agree.
This motor is what’s sitting in my ol’ ‘49 International LF log truck here in Kelso. 👍🏽😈❤️
They were just about the best there ever was, TD15s, 515 loaders in town delivery ----- one of the best.
DT 466 mechanical is the best international engine
That's why it's referred to as "The Legend", even International reconizes it as such.
My short list of best diesel engines for heavy/industrial use would be the Cat C-12, Detroit 60 series, Cummins ISX 12, Detroit 8v92, Cat 3512C, and the Cummins QSK50. I would like to throw the Detroit 4000v and the DD15 in there as well, but the 4000v's I've worked with have been temperamental and the DD15 hasn't been tested long enough.
And the 5.9 Cummins 12v and Detroit Diesel Serie 60?
Love the tickover on the Cummings in the kenworth.
Both the Caterpillar 3406 and the 3208 should have been mentioned here...both set the pace for 'excellent diesels'...
Cummins 12 valve 5.9L and 8.3L are the engines that paved the way. 8.3's are used in boats, generators, buses, excavators, trucks and motorhomes. 5.9's with Bosch 7100 p-pump set the land speed record in a Banks power dodge dakota.
Ive lost track of how many different diesel engines ive owned and ive never had a bad one. A lot depends on how you treat them, but the Cummins 8.3 has probably been the best. got a lot of time for the straight six fords, bullet proof for a light engine.
that detroit sounded the best by far!
No other sound quite like a revving up Turbo Diesel truck, it's that whistle 😩👌
Subtle yet powerful, up there with the sound of "Ole Painless" from Predator.
"Of all time" should include Detroit Diesel 6-71. (I believe the -92 you feature is basically the same engine with more displacement, and in this case more cylinders/V-configuration.)
This thing powered everything from WWII landing craft to the early semis. (I can still remember following these rigs up steep hills on Route 30 in Western Pennsylvania at about 13 mph.) Disassembling and reassembling a 6-71 was part of the Navy and Coast Guard "Engineman" training in the early to mid-70s.
First came out in 1938 and still made - mostly boat engines now. Newer designs, many of which you have featured, are undoubtedly better truck engines.
They are also used on many a crew boats serving the oil & gas industry and a host of others too.
great vid
No diesel knowledge what so ever that posted this, deutz isnt anywhere in here when it should have been,...
I don't know much about duetz but I have one in my bobcat 863 and I love it
Cummins 12 valve and the 7.3 powerstroke should be on the list.
Where is the Cummins 6BT ? :'(
Great video by the way xD !
Excellent motor
Best os Caterpillar
Shinobi Shileno In my crewcab dually! Lol!
Shinobi Shileno cummins just isnt as great as the american think 😂 the mercedes om606 is way better no rebuild is needed to convert an n/a engine with bigger pumpelements and a turbo to over 600hp.
Nothing beats detroit series 60
4:40 THAT RADIATOR LEAK AAAAA
Blinkered choice - Lister CS first cold start diesel - Peugeot / Citroen XUD series - the engine that brought diesel cars to the masses - I'm fond of the 1990's 2.5 lt 12 valve pre common rail PSA T9A van engine that's bulletproof with things like under piston spray jets and hydraulic tappets
No Mack 672/E6???
Let me know when you learn something about Diesel engines.
That 2 cycle V6 Detroit sounds like music. Same with the red KTA( WHAT A BEAST).
Maybe someone on here can help me,I recall in late 1990's we had a roadgrader that was powered by an International UD?? series engine.The engine had what I thought was a very unusal starting system.By setting a control lever the engine which was equipped with spark plugs on one side of the engine could be started on gasoline.The machine was equipped with a very small gasoline tank,as soon as the engine started on gas,the controls were set and the engine operated as a Diesel.Only ever saw one other engine do that,it was used on an International bulldozer.The Roadgrader was very old,when we were using it,mainly to push snow off the road inside the plant.Anyone else remember these engines?
Yeah my dad had one of them in an old Galion Motor Grader back in the early 80's. If i remember right it was about a1952. Was the first grader i ever run. No matter how cold it was, if you could get that thing to start on gas, you get get it to run on diesel. I never could figure out why they quit making them. It was a hell of a design.
The International diesel that you are referring to was used in farm tractors and road graders and I believe it was first used in the late 1930's In the 1980's, I attempted to overhaul one in a road grader but had to abandon the project because both cylinder heads were cracked and new ones were not available.
......................................I had one of them 6.9's..........old' eye-burner.............................and the 7.3 died in Wyoming (weather was cold & engine was a 7.3, end of story).
Detroit 60,Cummins N14,Cat 3406b
Quinton Williams Detroit 60s are good for making noise and leaking that's about it
Alan 60 series the best diesel engine ever.
Quinton Williams cat 3406 is best engine
Arun Sharma agree to disagree but its in my top 3 so yeah
It's a cummins Jesus Christ by now people should know there is no fucking g!!!
Awesome engines