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Atheism vs. Creationism: 7-12-2024

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  • Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
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    BN President Mandisa Thomas debates Kent Hovind at Dinosaur Adventure Land on July 12th, 2024
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 442

  • @ShangoSankofa
    @ShangoSankofa 27 днів тому +74

    That guy is dangerous he is the definition of a cult leader

    • @gowdsake7103
      @gowdsake7103 26 днів тому +4

      Agrees

    • @freddan6fly
      @freddan6fly 25 днів тому +6

      Not only that he is a criminal.
      Children has died and been raped on his facility, which shows what moral standard he has, and how much he cares about other people.

    • @TheAmazingJimmy
      @TheAmazingJimmy 21 день тому

      Not one thing you said it correct.

    • @freddan6fly
      @freddan6fly 21 день тому

      @@TheAmazingJimmy Do you have evidence for that claim? Or are you lying?

    • @TheAmazingJimmy
      @TheAmazingJimmy 20 днів тому

      @@freddan6fly You're the one making the claim, I'm coming from skepticism, so do you have any evidence for your claim or are you lying?

  • @CorissaTheChimera
    @CorissaTheChimera 27 днів тому +47

    Mandisa ate! Also, she really did well in holding her composure through all his childish behavior in the debate, as well as dispelling his ridiculous fallacies!! He cracked so hard at the end!

    • @mikerodgers7620
      @mikerodgers7620 26 днів тому

      Actually he conducted himself nicely. Not childish. Atheist fool.
      Learn how to see and listen.

  • @David_Goza
    @David_Goza 27 днів тому +19

    Peak cringe! Kent Hovind likening our obligation as citizens to pay taxes to *slavery* in the presence of his Black interlocutor made my innards tie themselves in a knot!
    Well done, Ms. Thomas. You waded right through that swamp without getting any on you.

    • @peterwyetzner5276
      @peterwyetzner5276 25 днів тому +4

      It sounds like he can't acknowledge someone else's suffering without asserting his own as well.

  • @lr1698
    @lr1698 27 днів тому +34

    We know who made the computer (man), we know who made gods… oops (man) again. It’s the willful ignoring of actual facts for me. Mandisa was excellent and on point!!

    • @DartNoobo
      @DartNoobo 26 днів тому +1

      We know who created the universe! Man!

    • @freddan6fly
      @freddan6fly 25 днів тому

      @@DartNoobo Nope.

    • @DartNoobo
      @DartNoobo 25 днів тому

      @@freddan6fly It’s the willful ignoring of actual facts for me.

    • @freddan6fly
      @freddan6fly 25 днів тому

      @@DartNoobo The question is loaded. We don't know if there was a cause to the beginning of the current incarnation of the universe or not. It definitely is a loaded question to claim there was a who. And it is silly to claim man.

    • @DartNoobo
      @DartNoobo 25 днів тому

      @@freddan6fly man created computer. So there you go. Facts. Checkmate believers

  • @ComeToCORT
    @ComeToCORT 27 днів тому +43

    WRONG photo?! Sheesh. What a poor start. Well done, Mandisa! You were great!

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas 26 днів тому +5

      i be it was deliberate, he wants people to go off at tangents to the argument.

    • @mikerodgers7620
      @mikerodgers7620 26 днів тому

      Fools are great.

  • @thescreengeek8915
    @thescreengeek8915 26 днів тому +16

    "we can certainly discuss it but I'm right"
    Kent walks this line between confused racist grandpa and toddler extremely well

  • @ottomaddoxx5360
    @ottomaddoxx5360 26 днів тому +10

    The word of the day is "disingenuous." That's Kent. Mandisa did a great job of calling his behavior disingenuous. He's not an honest man in any way.

    • @peterwyetzner5276
      @peterwyetzner5276 25 днів тому +1

      Watch for words like "probably"- he uses then when he wants to make a bald assertion.

  • @TrevonFoxxx
    @TrevonFoxxx 27 днів тому +54

    Not even 15 seconds in and I’m screeeeaaaaming, the wrong picture is just agonizingly hilarious this dude couldn’t even do the simplest research 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Capt.Pikles
      @Capt.Pikles 26 днів тому +5

      I paused, but I’m BETTING Kent blames his staff.
      Edit nope, he just said, “that’s what came up” 💀

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas 26 днів тому +3

      @@Capt.Pikles he doe this on purpose, he enjoys baiting folks.

    • @ottomaddoxx5360
      @ottomaddoxx5360 26 днів тому +1

      Oh man. I usually skip the introductions, because I already know who the people are, so I had to go back. Mandisa- "But that's not me."
      That whole bit is like a scene from an 80's sitcom.

    • @mikerodgers7620
      @mikerodgers7620 26 днів тому

      Folks bait themselves by ignoring creation facts. Something CAN'T come out of nothing. Life has a creator.

    • @MrWillheim
      @MrWillheim 26 днів тому +7

      @@mikerodgers7620 Why do theists present the 'something from nothing' argument and then claim atheists make it?

  • @sutubeism
    @sutubeism 27 днів тому +24

    Phew chile this was a journey. I deconstructed from Kent’s camp and it’s so painful to watch him spew the same outdated nonsense I used to as well. Well done Mandisa for taking the time to engage with this disingenuous nonsense. Still watching but I would have brought up that early church fathers taught a literal interpretation of genesis was foolish because chapter 1 and 2 contradict each other. Additionally I’d love to see Kent’s response to endogenous retroviruses.

    • @mikerodgers7620
      @mikerodgers7620 26 днів тому

      What's painful is him educating know-it-all atheists with selfish godlike complexes.

    • @parkplaceproperties4818
      @parkplaceproperties4818 13 днів тому

      @@sutubeism Still laughing🤭?

    • @parkplaceproperties4818
      @parkplaceproperties4818 12 днів тому

      ⁠In other words it would be factually correct to call a race inferior if inferiority is defined as having a lower capacity for intelligence. Looks like you have no reason to complain…😮

  • @aaronmclaughlin4745
    @aaronmclaughlin4745 27 днів тому +25

    Eleven of the thoughts I had during the video:
    1. We observe MAN-MADE objects being made by a person...but...we've never observed NATURAL objects being made by a person.
    2. The Bible specifically states to kill witches and people who work on the Sabbath...so it's right up there with the Koran concerning believe-or-die.
    3. What's wrong with the moon being closer billions of years ago? Lungs are only ~500 million years old, so there weren't too many things that would care about crazy tides.
    4. If a dog not being observed to produce a non-dog is evidence against evolution, then what about not observing a person live over 150 years?
    5. We've only ever seen life arise automatically from natural processes.
    6. If God needs a book to communicate, it's because (like all writers) he was just a guy who knew he was going to die one day.
    7. Design is the signature of necessity. The universe could only have been designed if it can be shown that every part of it fulfills a need beyond it.
    8. Cows & butterflies are just different kinds...of cells. All cells make cells and come from cells. All life is just a variation of the first living thing. The proof is they all have genes in common.
    9. The standard & origin for right and wrong is empathy and the order it brings.
    10. People have never made natural life in a laboratory. Then why does Kent believe a supernatural person created natural life in a supernatural laboratory?
    11. I'm an atheist, my moral standard is empathy, therefore I believe slavery is wrong. Where in the Ten Commandments does a Christian find that slavery is wrong without appealing to empathy to reinterpret the Bible.

    • @danford6678
      @danford6678 26 днів тому +1

      1. Is a non sequitur. We have never observed a god doing anything ever. Biological systems can be really complex isn't an argument for god.
      2. The bible also says to kill gays as well. Also it says in many places you shouldn't kill ever. Pretty mixed messaging for an in errant book.
      3. Yep
      4. The dogs not giving birth to non dogs is also a non sequitur it is also an argument from ignorance. Only YEC people ever try and misrepresent evolution like this they are fully aware this is not how it works they do it hoping their faithful sheep will not do further research proving the statement wrong and stupid at the same time.
      5. Agree a god doing anything still has 0 proof to show for anything and 0 working models to explain their stance.
      6. I would also add an all powerful all wise all knowing god could have made his book actually inerrant instead of it reading like the goat herders guide to life.
      7. Biologic design is much less caring and cruel than that. Does it function? Will it keep function long enough to reproduce? Versus thinking an all powerful all knowing all wise being designed how birth in our species worked, it was an actual death sentence for many women until science came far enough to do something about it.
      8. Don't even get me started on retro viruses that are present in our closest ape cousins that could only be there if we had a shared common ancestor.
      9. There is no such thing as objective morality. It is a completely subjective thing which is why so many cultures have so many different stances on what is right and wrong.
      10. Origin of life research is making progress its one of the last gaps for god to hide in.
      11. The bible is full of atrocities. The old testament clearly states who you can own ( people from surrounding countries), how long you can own them ( for life ), and how close to death you can beat them ( if they recover in 2 days you are good )

    • @freddan6fly
      @freddan6fly 26 днів тому +3

      11) Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife or his slaves, or his animals, or anything of thy neighbour
      Opsie. That just say that women are property, just as animals and slaves.

    • @debbieessack5902
      @debbieessack5902 25 днів тому +1

      1. For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse
      2. Where can I find the bible verse that states to "kill witches and ppl who work" on the sabbath?? And a man was there with a withered hand. And they asked him, "Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?
      3. You completely missed the point here
      4. And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good
      5.Where? What natural processes? I am interested in these natural processes.
      6. The book is a creation of men. For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.
      7. ???
      8. EXACTLY! Read 4! and then read about the "junk DNA" that is so called junk, but actually a necessity for you being able to read what I'm writing.
      9. Explain why the standard & origin for right and wrong is empathy and the order it brings? What constitutes empathy? And why does it bring order?
      10. Straw man argument!
      11. Another straw man!

    • @freddan6fly
      @freddan6fly 25 днів тому

      @@debbieessack5902 Nope. There is less evidence for god than for _The Invisible Pink Unicorn_ in _My Garage_
      Who cares about bible verses? You have to prove that the bible has anything to do with reality, otherwise it is just a badly written self contradictory fantasy.
      If you claim arguments are straw man arguments, you have to show how, otherwise you are a liar.

    • @lasseaukio626
      @lasseaukio626 25 днів тому +1

      @@debbieessack5902 1. What specific part about the natural world do you think implies a creator, invisible or otherwise? In what manner are the qualities of 'eternal power and divine nature' seen in the world?
      2. skip
      3. The point is that the _creationist math is wrong_ when it comes to the moon and the distance thereof. Or rather, based on assumptions that aren't true.
      4. What is highlighted here is Kent's misunderstanding of evolution. In evolutionary view, any and all future descendants of dogs are *always* going to be dogs, regardless of their shape and size. A dog producing non-dogs would disprove evolution. However, there's no issue of a non-dog Carnivoran producing a dog Carnivoran.
      5. I imagine aaronmclaughlin4745 was referring to procreation and reproduction. Abiogenesis, life coming from nonlife, is as of yet unsolved. All the components have been shown to come about fine under lifeless conditions, and their ability to assemble is also demonstrated to an extent. There appears to be no insurmountable barrier in moving from nonliving to living systems.
      6. Does this include where God gave false prophecies to the prophets that were wrong?
      7. What is being said is that the universe shows no sign of having been designed. (I suppose it depends on a given definition. My definition of a designed thing is 'material in shape or composition that does not occur naturally.' So in case of the universe we can't determine for sure if it is or isn't designed.)
      8. You know that the 'there's no junk DNA' is bunk, right? In that there are things we know that DNA does. For parts of DNA, we have determined that it does do one of these things. For parts of DNA, we have yet to determine if it does any of those things. And for well over half of all DNA, we know that it does none of the so-far known functions of DNA. Maybe there are functions we don't know about, that's possible. But so far 'junk' seems apt.
      And we know that other animals, at least, have vast swaths of DNA that does nothing thanks to 'knockout' tests, where a part of the genome is removed, and the animals develop and live just fine without it. (Not done to humans for obvious ethical reasons)
      9. Having a sense of right and wrong causes order by creating a society that acts on that sense of right and wrong. Whether a given society with it's particular standards is successful or not depends on the standard.
      10. Probably fair to call it a strawman.
      11. Which of the ten commandments forbids slavery? Or which among all the commandments forbids owning another person as property? I'll wait.

  • @thescreengeek8915
    @thescreengeek8915 26 днів тому +29

    I'm 10 seconds in and Hovind already went in with the "all black ladies look alike" mentality.

    • @Idontanswerquestions.-yf8uh
      @Idontanswerquestions.-yf8uh 25 днів тому +6

      Yeah, as a white man myself that was very embarrassing. I spoke to Kent on the phone after I saw this and let him know that that was embarrassing. He just said he'd never met her before blah blah blah and it was not intentional etc.etc. I personally don't think it was intentional. Kent says a lot of stupid 💩💩💩💩...

    • @crollinsphoto
      @crollinsphoto 19 днів тому

      Sheeshhhhhh. pull her up on the internet and that IS her picture, if she says it isn't, then it is not Kent's fault. It is the fault of whoever put up the info, they used the only picture they have. Did you ever think that picture is awful to her and she doesn't want to admit it? Black people lie too you know..sheesh.....

    • @meltorme-ntor2933
      @meltorme-ntor2933 16 днів тому +1

      Yes! I immediately noticed that! It was pretty disgusting.

  • @AlphaDynamics22
    @AlphaDynamics22 27 днів тому +14

    "for blacks"....Yikes...already

    • @JaneDoe-vd7gs
      @JaneDoe-vd7gs 27 днів тому +2

      Right?! That was out of pocket #1 in his long list of them in this video!

    • @Ktmfan450
      @Ktmfan450 26 днів тому +4

      "Lincoln wasn't qualified to free the Blacks" - Kent Hovind

    • @jamesjohnson2157
      @jamesjohnson2157 21 день тому +1

      I cringed at that as well!

    • @parkplaceproperties4818
      @parkplaceproperties4818 14 днів тому

      Dont you believe in evolution?

  • @joshuajamie
    @joshuajamie 26 днів тому +10

    “There are older records than the Bible that have the golden rule”
    “Just because it’s older doesn’t mean it’s better.”
    So the golden rule isn’t better? Lmao.
    That’s the “older thing” that we are talking about. The golden rule. Which shows that it’s more likely your religion took the idea from regular human behavior, rather than humans taking it from a god

  • @ssppo4703
    @ssppo4703 26 днів тому +21

    so rude to put up the wrong picture and not apologize profusely.

    • @MegaeffinGarchomp17
      @MegaeffinGarchomp17 25 днів тому +6

      Not surprised from a dude who said "blacks"

    • @meltorme-ntor2933
      @meltorme-ntor2933 16 днів тому +2

      And he did it several times!

    • @Chronic_Relapser
      @Chronic_Relapser 9 днів тому

      Why does there need to be “black not believers” in the first place? Why not just “non believers”? Black is fine but blacks is not?

  • @ss4bardock777
    @ss4bardock777 26 днів тому +12

    Not even a minute in, and he couldn't even get your picture right. 🤦🏾‍♂Better strap in.

  • @nickburns8096
    @nickburns8096 26 днів тому +3

    The bible fully endorses slavery and NEVER makes a single condemnation of the practice

  • @electricflesh4534
    @electricflesh4534 27 днів тому +26

    Watching this video poses a conundrum. On one hand I love watching anything with Mandisa and want to watch this. But having to listen to Kent Hovind is gonna be a real struggle. I think I can get through it.

    • @Idontanswerquestions.-yf8uh
      @Idontanswerquestions.-yf8uh 25 днів тому +3

      I love listening to Kent Hovind he's my favorite believer, he reminds me why I'm an atheist.🤣🤣🤣

  • @robinhood20253
    @robinhood20253 27 днів тому +32

    You are the Queen Mandisa‼️💯♥️. You smoked him.

    • @mikerodgers7620
      @mikerodgers7620 26 днів тому

      You should leave the drugs alone as well. She's an educated fool.

    • @robinhood20253
      @robinhood20253 26 днів тому +7

      @@mikerodgers7620 lol. She is awesome and you are indoctrinated.

    • @missdani5566
      @missdani5566 26 днів тому

      @@mikerodgers7620 and Kent Hovind is an uneducated narcissist. Have a beautiful day.

    • @baonemogomotsi7138
      @baonemogomotsi7138 26 днів тому

      ​@mikerodgers7620 Ah, yes, the so-called educated fool 😂.
      Go back to school, pal.

    • @freddan6fly
      @freddan6fly 25 днів тому +3

      @@mikerodgers7620 "She's an educated fool." - How so? I bet you are projecting about the fool thing. I bet you are not educated though.

  • @UnderAttack524
    @UnderAttack524 26 днів тому +6

    Did this dude just compare paying for peoples healthcare to slavery????? Nim Wit

  • @sutubeism
    @sutubeism 27 днів тому +12

    To the last commenter spewing the lies on biblical slavery not being chattel slavery I present the following
    Leviticus 25:44-46
    44 As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you.45 You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. 46 You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly.

    • @parkplaceproperties4818
      @parkplaceproperties4818 14 днів тому

      Im confused, dont you believe in evolution?

    • @sutubeism
      @sutubeism 14 днів тому

      @@parkplaceproperties4818lol are you trying to imply that slavery is a result of evolution? Just want to clarify that before I enjoy this laugh.

    • @parkplaceproperties4818
      @parkplaceproperties4818 14 днів тому

      Im implying that evolutionists believe organisms evolve to higher degrees from previous levels, do you have a logically coherent reason to believe that there cant be higher degrees of evolution within the human species? Meaning one race or group of people are more evolved than another? I’ll wait😁…….

    • @parkplaceproperties4818
      @parkplaceproperties4818 14 днів тому +1

      @@sutubeism Im saying that according to evolutionists, organisms evolve with varying degrees of change. Is it plausible for one race of humans to evolve with a greater capacity for intelligence or with a lower capacity for intelligence? If no, can you provide a logically coherent explanation for why that is *not* plausible?

    • @parkplaceproperties4818
      @parkplaceproperties4818 14 днів тому +1

      @@sutubeism So eager to hear your explanation as to why one race cannot possibly be less intelligent than another race based on evolution’s framework

  • @stephicath
    @stephicath 27 днів тому +19

    Strong opening there, Mandisa, and strong throughout.

  • @SpartacusMA1
    @SpartacusMA1 26 днів тому +4

    Oh god. I can't believe Kent is still around.

  • @cjgt77
    @cjgt77 26 днів тому +7

    Paying for somebody else's healthcare and welfare is "enslavement"? 🤦 I wonder if he feels the same way about his Social Security, because we sure are paying for that right now.
    Nobody's really forced to pay anything. It's a social contract when you get a job and you're taking advantage of certain benefits the society afforded you, like roads, schools, bridges etc to get to that job. The society at large offered you that job with the help of everyone in that society. No way to get around that because no one is an island living scott free off the system. Don't want to contribute to society, fine, live with Grizzy Adams in the mountains somewhere, but don't pretend that you're a slave to a system that gave you a job and with that job you're able to get a house or a car and everything that comes with it, especially if you're rich. They're benefiting more so and taking advantage of more resources than the average person to get their wealth.
    The way they set up the politics in this country, they really think they're entitled to that 100 million dollar yacht and they don't have to pay the extra tax for the waterways it's taking up space in and the bridges that have to be remade for.
    People who actually say that they're being "enslaved" are the ones who really want to mooch off society. Not people on welfare who are trying to either better themselves or trying to survive. These right-wing types need to stop acting as if they're the victim. Hovind has the nerve to sit there and talk about being "enslaved" after being jailed for fraud (or something along those lines I forget now) and now is benefiting from a society who's giving him a second chance. 😡 He's doing better than most who went to prison and society shuns them, even when they want to be contributing members.

    • @alexanderingraham8255
      @alexanderingraham8255 25 днів тому +2

      Nailed it! Edit: Also, who would Jesus deny healthcare to?

    • @cjgt77
      @cjgt77 25 днів тому

      @@alexanderingraham8255 , the right even changed the idea of Jesus to stay in power. Remember, Jesus now a gun-toting capitalist who wants closed borders and make Trump a king. The "feed the hungry and poor" Jesus is now a communist socialist plot devised by the left.
      That's how bad the RW has become.

  • @belterglj
    @belterglj 27 днів тому +10

    Ham claimed that the geologic column, that he doesn't believe in, has to all be the the same age because matter can't be created or destroyed. He can't possibly be that dumb.

    • @lr1698
      @lr1698 27 днів тому +4

      He’s allowed to be dumb. Faith is the only requirement.

    • @belterglj
      @belterglj 27 днів тому +3

      @@lr1698 I'm implying that he's lieing.

    • @gowdsake7103
      @gowdsake7103 26 днів тому +1

      Of course he can

    • @belterglj
      @belterglj 25 днів тому

      @@gowdsake7103 let's say that either he's that dumb or lying, and I think he's lying.

  • @masterofthecontinuum
    @masterofthecontinuum 26 днів тому +14

    Kent continuing to complain about paying taxes despite going to prison for a decade for not paying his taxes will never not be funny. He's still real mad about that...

  • @alexanderingraham8255
    @alexanderingraham8255 27 днів тому +10

    It’s always a pleasure watching a Kent get wrecked. Especially when they’re as articulate and intelligent as yourself.
    Also, mad respect for actually going to DAL. I’d love to see a video of you and Grayson (BasedTheory) do a video comparing your experiences there!

    • @freddan6fly
      @freddan6fly 25 днів тому

      Yes, a co-op with Grayson and perhaps Atheist Junior who also travelled to Kents facility.

    • @alexanderingraham8255
      @alexanderingraham8255 25 днів тому +1

      @@freddan6fly AJ went? When? He and Kent HATE each other lol

    • @freddan6fly
      @freddan6fly 25 днів тому +1

      @@alexanderingraham8255 AJ has the video on his channel. It is perhaps 6-8 month ago.

    • @alexanderingraham8255
      @alexanderingraham8255 25 днів тому +1

      @@freddan6fly Thanks! I'll check it out

  • @traythomas6463
    @traythomas6463 27 днів тому +20

    Love you Mandisa ✊🏾❤

  • @SeedsnStems63
    @SeedsnStems63 26 днів тому +5

    This was wild 😅 Kent keeps accidentally making light racist jabs the same way he intentionally makes homophobic jabs at other debaters. Did NOT care for Kent’s attitude

  • @MarkReidAtheism
    @MarkReidAtheism 24 дні тому +1

    Great debate by Mandisa - She would not let Kent railroad her and absolutely stomped on his BS. Great job!

  • @AaronWilkerson
    @AaronWilkerson 27 днів тому +14

    Love to see it, Mandisa! You have the patience of a saint.

  • @sramas757
    @sramas757 26 днів тому +4

    Chattel slavery does not equal paying taxes.

    • @nullverba856
      @nullverba856 26 днів тому

      Paying Taxes Is Like Slavery is a top-shelf bit of douchebaggery. Why am I not surprised it got trotted out by Kent @#$% Hovind?

  • @TheOldstufffan
    @TheOldstufffan 19 днів тому +4

    I’m a theistic evolutionist and watched a reaction on a Kent/ creationist/ fundamentalist debunking Chanel, AthiestJr. Kent is an awful “preacher” and a cringy, gross, narcissist. And not that bright. You fought him with some great knowledge, while being put together and kind when you probably wanted to scream. Few people who oppose him go to DAL. Kudos, brave one.

  • @stevenholmes78
    @stevenholmes78 12 днів тому +2

    I love the way Mandisa handled herself. She is an articulate, well-educated woman. Well done

  • @jonymatis792
    @jonymatis792 27 днів тому +10

    This could have all been shut down by asking, "who created god?"

    • @lr1698
      @lr1698 27 днів тому +4

      I don’t know, these non theological scholars, have a ready made answer which is silly. She got em though. Real scholars whose whole occupation is teaching religion- many are atheists themselves! He started wining that she was picking on him. He’s not a thinker at all.

    • @Capt.Pikles
      @Capt.Pikles 26 днів тому

      He always refers to his god as a “he”. Just ask old Kent if he’s seen a divine penis and watch him turn red.

    • @FrikInCasualMode
      @FrikInCasualMode 26 днів тому +3

      "My God is so special nobody made him! He's eternal hurr durr."

    • @prodebates9182
      @prodebates9182 26 днів тому +1

      Who created God is entry level conversations. This never works with an apologist because God doesn't require a creator. Listen to people like Alex O'Connor and you'll quickly learn that in a theological discussion, this is one of the worst "Gotchas".
      Go with Problem of evil (Logical).
      Go with Divine Hiddenness.
      There are better ways to show them their God doesn't exist.

    • @FrikInCasualMode
      @FrikInCasualMode 26 днів тому

      @@prodebates9182 Excuse me, but how exactly would you demonstrate that God doesn't require a creator? By asserting that God is eternal and as such doesn't require a creator? It's nothing else than defining God into existence.

  • @Idontanswerquestions.-yf8uh
    @Idontanswerquestions.-yf8uh 25 днів тому +2

    Great job talking to my personal favorite believer, Kent. I spoke to him on the phone after I saw your debate with him and I challenged him to have a discussion about the Bible but he wanted nothing to do with that, he only wanted to talk about evolution. I think that is because he knows the Bible has way too many holes in it and he wants to poke holes in evolution so he can feel good about himself. Hope to see more debates like this, you do a really good job in my opinion.👍👍👍

    • @Orsonfoe
      @Orsonfoe 10 днів тому

      the reason for that is cause kent doesn't have a script ready for that sort of thing. kent relies on the same stuff from 30 years ago. look it here in this debate. she asks kent what promts him to belive in his version of god and he goes straight into the already disproven Starwman argument of evolution. not one did he bring anything close to evidence for god outside of a quick 'the bible says so"

  • @meltorme-ntor2933
    @meltorme-ntor2933 16 днів тому +3

    3:23 Kent actually said "Tell us what the atheist religion teaches"! Wow, he is immediately trying to push the idea that atheism is a religion.

  • @calldwnthesky6495
    @calldwnthesky6495 19 днів тому

    thank you for what you do Mandisa. we so very much need you (and others) to push back on dogma and be in the spotlight while you do it... to keep this country from those who are want theocratic governance (tho they won't always admit it). i continue with my small recurring donations to BNB and i encourage anyone who can to do the same. you and all the BNB team do great work - not only for American people of color but for ALL backgrounds, everywhere in the world. you are a hero... no hyperbole.

  • @jamesjohnson2157
    @jamesjohnson2157 21 день тому +1

    Thank you Mandisa for being the voice of rational logic. You handled Yourself very well given the circumstance.

  • @JTFtheTheoPhPoliticalHistorian
    @JTFtheTheoPhPoliticalHistorian 26 днів тому +2

    1:21:04 As somebody from Louisiana which is what you're most likely talking about regarding the ten commandments, while I think it should not be in public schools, the thing is when you said Jewish people don't agree with it, that's not true because the 10 commandments is Jewish, not just Christian.

  • @onepunch9203
    @onepunch9203 26 днів тому +4

    I'm only ½ way through this. The gish galloping and the strawmanning and the stoopid corny "jokes" from 1977 are too cringy to bear! 🤦‍♂️
    I'm gonna stick it out and endure the rest of it because I love Mandisa. 🖤
    I'm surprised that you went into the serpent's lair, sister. You are either brave or foolish. I'm going with brave. 🤔

  • @49perfectss
    @49perfectss 14 днів тому +3

    Every reply from her is a fatality against what Kent just said! Every time! This is hilarious.

  • @Captain_Gargoyle
    @Captain_Gargoyle 26 днів тому +2

    I wonder if Kent - Dr Dino - Hovind can define what a dinosaur is yet...

  • @nickburns8096
    @nickburns8096 26 днів тому +1

    Inanimate objects can't evolve, but, if you bury that pen in the ground, natural processes will eventually break that pen down into its constituent parts, either by osmosis, which happens naturally without any input, or through biological means, which requires some living organism

  • @darthplagueisthewise5145
    @darthplagueisthewise5145 24 дні тому +1

    Thank you for all you do Mandisa!

  • @ShangoSankofa
    @ShangoSankofa 27 днів тому +9

    Wow idiocracy at a all-time high

  • @no_sht_sherlock4663
    @no_sht_sherlock4663 26 днів тому +4

    Hey Peeps! That Science junk isn't be true! Have you considered MAGIC 🎩 ✨️ 😂😂😂 Nice Job Mandisa!

  • @ericdunthorne1981
    @ericdunthorne1981 20 днів тому +2

    Kents willful ignorance knows no bounds.

  • @user-cl3zu7kp2v
    @user-cl3zu7kp2v 25 днів тому +1

    It is genuinely disgusting to hear him compare social welfare to slavery. Wow.

  • @sle2470
    @sle2470 26 днів тому +3

    Great job, Mandisa! 👍❤

  • @blade_warrior_blue
    @blade_warrior_blue 26 днів тому +3

    Don't feel bad about them getting your picture wrong Mandisa! They also refer to Kent Hovind as a doctor. 😅 At least the picture is somewhat believable.

    • @discontinuedmodel232
      @discontinuedmodel232 22 дні тому

      I'll have you know that Dr. Kent Hovind had to buy THOUSANDS of boxes of Cracker Jack to find one with an academic degree inside it! 🤪

  • @coachfrankie1112
    @coachfrankie1112 24 дні тому +2

    Mandisa simply asks where he got his degree and he replies that its an Ad Hominem attack. 🤦‍♂️ Right after he was bragging about his qualifications. Double 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  • @Stephen-yw9sn
    @Stephen-yw9sn 22 дні тому +3

    45:34 Did he just say national pornographic instead of national geographic? lol.

    • @Stephen-yw9sn
      @Stephen-yw9sn 22 дні тому +3

      He said it again at 1:13:10 and Mandisa actually called him out on it. 🤔

  • @sillybanks33
    @sillybanks33 26 днів тому +1

    SHE SLAYED, OH MY GOODNESS SMH!!!!! SHE IS PRESIDENTIAL, SALUTE !!!!!

  • @ajlau9481
    @ajlau9481 26 днів тому +2

    kent talking about being against racism but there is a clip out there of him saying the "wrong side" won the civil war. granted that's many years ago but idk if kent ever changed position over the years

  • @stevingtonia1
    @stevingtonia1 26 днів тому +1

    The reason the moon is moving away from the earth is because Kent is on it. No one needs that

  • @prodebates9182
    @prodebates9182 26 днів тому +1

    Mandisa,
    Are you aware that Cindi Lincoln (Ex-wife 3) claims that Kent slammed her to the ground? It's also claimed he abused a child and it's a fact a child died on his property.

  • @rstehlik100
    @rstehlik100 24 дні тому +1

    Much love Mandisa! You rock!

  • @FrikInCasualMode
    @FrikInCasualMode 26 днів тому +1

    Kent Hovind doesn't debate - he's taking the opportunity to read his script again.

  • @jacketrussell
    @jacketrussell 25 днів тому +1

    Did Hovind deliberately make Mandisa's audio poor quality?

  • @oIIIAdamIIIo
    @oIIIAdamIIIo 27 днів тому +3

    To Hovind's geological column question': The "new" material is coming from the places where material is being removed.

    • @edb8830
      @edb8830 26 днів тому +1

      He's been taught all this before. He doesn't care about reality.

    • @ottomaddoxx5360
      @ottomaddoxx5360 26 днів тому

      @@edb8830 That's why it was so nice that Mandisa told Kent directly that behavior like his "...would be considered disingenuous." She was referring to something slightly different, but it was still disingenuous.

  • @Piochanel2
    @Piochanel2 22 дні тому +2

    As much I liked how You wiped the floor with Kent - I do not like that he gets a platform. He is just not worthy.

  • @SeedsnStems63
    @SeedsnStems63 26 днів тому +1

    “Dogs only produce dogs” 🤦‍♂️ Kent knows better than to tell this lie. Mr. Anderson has thoroughly debunked this stupid assertion just recently

  • @Cliveygee3422
    @Cliveygee3422 26 днів тому +4

    Nice work Mandisa👍🏾

  • @antiochiaadtaurum3786
    @antiochiaadtaurum3786 23 дні тому +1

    he knows he's lying, that's why he said at one point ' i deserve to go to hell'

  • @meltorme-ntor2933
    @meltorme-ntor2933 8 днів тому +2

    "There is no geologic column". Wow. That is just sad! All you have to do is dig a little and you see layers. Go to the Grand Canyon or any other large formation and you see layers. This is either willful ignorance from this man or complete dishonesty.

    • @Orsonfoe
      @Orsonfoe 3 дні тому

      It's Kent so it's both.

  • @pandemus1
    @pandemus1 26 днів тому +1

    The GWOAT of this! OG Mandisa! #HaveANiceDay

  • @ib368
    @ib368 24 дні тому

    Mandisa, you’re by far the best debater I’ve ever seen!! Keep slayin' ❤

  • @Stephen-yw9sn
    @Stephen-yw9sn 22 дні тому +1

    Why is it filmed like this? It looks like they are in 2 different places, talking via zoom. When in fact they are both in the same room, sitting next to each other.

    • @ThatNerdyTrucker
      @ThatNerdyTrucker 22 дні тому

      Because every tech guy that he has ever had is an idiot who is on drugs.....don't know if this latest tech guy is using but he certainly isn't very bright

    • @JakeStrange66
      @JakeStrange66 15 днів тому

      ​​@@ThatNerdyTruckeri don't think they're even on drugs. Kent wouldn't allow it (or so he says. Or maybe Kent didn't know.) They're probably just that dumb. 😂😂😂

  • @mattikaronen7728
    @mattikaronen7728 23 дні тому +1

    You did great, Mandisa! This was fun! (Actually hilarious because ”not a dr” Hovind is soo dumb) 😂🤣

  • @dr_ned_flanders
    @dr_ned_flanders 26 днів тому +1

    If you fast forward through all of Kent''s speech, this was a great debate.

  • @bigtom4709
    @bigtom4709 23 дні тому

    No, two dogs don't mate and produce a cat, but sometimes ... statistically, through mutation those two dogs will produce something slightly "other than" dog.
    Dogs have 4 legs, but occasionally dogs have been born with 3 legs. Still a dog? or does the definition of dog get alterered to include the 3 legged dog-like creature?
    What happens when 3 legged dogs mate with each other? Do they produce 3 legged offspring? Are they still dogs?

  • @thegroove2000
    @thegroove2000 24 дні тому

    If a determined hardworking scientific team built bacteria from scratch would that be a product of intelligent design?

  • @lakersrule35
    @lakersrule35 27 днів тому +9

    Mandisa 🔥

  • @simonl1135
    @simonl1135 26 днів тому +1

    "People are getting dumber! You should sit in my classroom!" (I think I _saw_ Mandisa thinking "I can see that").

  • @Wulfspyder
    @Wulfspyder 26 днів тому +1

    Wish Kent would take that one little, toddler step further than just taking the first things that pop up when he googles something.

  • @emekonen
    @emekonen 25 днів тому +2

    Stop giving this man airtime

  • @yellowdudeswarthy9303
    @yellowdudeswarthy9303 24 дні тому +1

    I dunno if you have yet, but you should have a talk with Athiest Jr. AJ is the guy to go to when debating Kent Hovind

  • @Rogue.Rainbow
    @Rogue.Rainbow 13 днів тому +2

    First time viewing this channel and I just got to say it.
    Mandisa ate kent alive.

  • @melmay7874
    @melmay7874 18 днів тому +2

    Ooh this man 😳 He needs therapy to see/connect with reality

  • @gnjoeyhowell
    @gnjoeyhowell 26 днів тому +1

    Kent starting out strong by not being able to literally identify his opponent in a photo. What a 🤡

  • @DartNoobo
    @DartNoobo 26 днів тому +2

    Huh, the guy is still going! Saw some videos of him like 15 years ago.

    • @ottomaddoxx5360
      @ottomaddoxx5360 26 днів тому +2

      And the content is all exactly the same. He hasn't changed it in response to any of the hundreds of corrections he's received over the years.

  • @freddan6fly
    @freddan6fly 26 днів тому +3

    Kent and his "the more fonts I use in my presentation, the more right I am"
    Mandisa rocked, and refuted all the idiotic claims from the fake dr.

    • @ottomaddoxx5360
      @ottomaddoxx5360 26 днів тому +1

      I swear, Kent has never upgraded any of his demo software. His presentations are probably just an old Geocities page.

  • @tayonbrown737
    @tayonbrown737 22 дні тому +1

    This man knows better then the nonsense he puts out. Literally taking every word she says out of context, he should be ashamed.

  • @sramas757
    @sramas757 26 днів тому +1

    He starts off by playing victim😂😂😂

  • @zecuse
    @zecuse 26 днів тому +1

    "Somebody had to create it" That presupposes that a mind with intent. Therefore, when your gutters get clogged, there must have been "somebody" that clogged them.
    "When you force people to give, that's not Christian charity" Matthew 25:31-45 (parable of the sheep and goats). Threats involving eternal damnation instill forced compliance regardless of how they're stated. And that's suppose to be from Jesus' mouth.
    Regarding Godwin's Law, Darwin's books were also thrown into the fires.
    About that mess with the lion and zebra, last time I checked, they're different species. Does Kunt not eat meat?
    LA 10 Commandments law: Importantly, these are the *Protestant* version of the commandments which differ ever so slightly from the *Catholic* version. Catholics have to tuck the one about graven images into the end of the first to skirt passed it and their practices and then split the one about coveting into two separate commandments where one hilariously splices the other!
    Regarding the slavery question: Leviticus 25:44-46, aka racial, permanent, chattel slavery. Jesus remains silent on the issue of slavery and Paul states slaves should obey their masters.

  • @nickburns8096
    @nickburns8096 26 днів тому +1

    "Kind" is a meaningless word, in terms of science, that Kent doesn't even use the way it's used in the bible.

  • @missdani5566
    @missdani5566 26 днів тому +4

    Hovind spends so much of his speaking time insulting his opponents. I automatically distrust everything he says because of that. Rather than present his evidence and/or argument, he wastes time mocking anyone who disagrees with him.
    Also, does anyone else get the impression he was deliberately mispronouncing Mandisa's name?

    • @edb8830
      @edb8830 26 днів тому +3

      He absolutely does. His debate style is: ad hom and gish gallop.

    • @gowdsake7103
      @gowdsake7103 26 днів тому +1

      He is an insult to humans everywhere

    • @missdani5566
      @missdani5566 26 днів тому +1

      @@edb8830 and in typical narcissistic fashion, he denies it while accusing his opponents of the same crap he does.

  • @iloshwdgac9213
    @iloshwdgac9213 26 днів тому

    Did not think Kent would quote Mega Mind @19:30. Does he know that Titan was the villain?

  • @joncraven6524
    @joncraven6524 26 днів тому +1

    If you've heard Hovand once you've heard him a 1000 times. Same script same song and dance. Same faulty claims like atheists claim we came from a rock when that's not what they claim and atheism is a religion when atheism in no way fits within the definition religion.

    • @discontinuedmodel232
      @discontinuedmodel232 22 дні тому

      You're correct that atheism is not "a religion". It is "a relationship" with REALITY. 😊

  • @ataho2000
    @ataho2000 26 днів тому

    Kent doesn't understand that we cannot say that the Moon is moving away from earth at a constant rate. He didn't provide evidence for that hypothesis.

  • @Proudstepdad
    @Proudstepdad 27 днів тому +1

    Is anyone going to talk about the ghoul shot on 30:53???

  • @mud-uc2il
    @mud-uc2il 26 днів тому

    1.2million years ago... Was that when the impact occurred that created the moon? Seems ken was right about the distance thing but wrong about what it implies.

  • @tekkaman65535
    @tekkaman65535 22 дні тому +1

    Kent actually compared having to pay for science to be taught in schools to slavery… wooooooow…

  • @nickburns8096
    @nickburns8096 26 днів тому

    Complex inanimate machines require a designer. Not so for simple collections of rocks and other materials or living things

  • @BrooksDingus
    @BrooksDingus 21 день тому +1

    Love Mandisa; can't stand the Hovind!

  • @AkanoWire
    @AkanoWire 26 днів тому

    to quote from his favorite show: "wah! what are you doing on this planet!"

  • @user-gr3oo5ux9x
    @user-gr3oo5ux9x 26 днів тому

    Creationism, atheism.there are no other explanations? How about considering there has never been a creation in the first place?

  • @jrojala
    @jrojala 25 днів тому

    That has to be the best I’ve ever seen him behave… did Mandisa tame Hovind!?
    All hail the Queen!

  • @shockman8014
    @shockman8014 23 дні тому

    Kent says the flood came some 4,000 odd years ago and everything that is fossilized was fossilized then. If that was true then humans and dinosaurs would be found in the same place at the same level.

  • @LDrosophila
    @LDrosophila 25 днів тому

    Great debate