As a student of science, but raised ‘Christian’, my faith was always weak and conflicted. Hugh’s teachings completely unlocked my heart, now I’m a born-again Holy Spirit filled weapon for the Most High. I’ve seen/participated/received so many miracles since then..! 🎉🎉 Thank you, Hugh!!!❤ God is AMAZING and so GOOD!!
Evolution is a fact as well as a theory, fossils, genetics especially beneficial mutations, meteorology, geology, paleontology, dendochrontology, anthropology, archeology, zoology, mythology, chemistry, physics and pretty much every science sreams evolution.
Many Christians have rejected their faith because of science even though they do not have a science background. I am glad to see scientists themselves are defending the Bible and educating people like me who are vulnerable.
I have a master's degree in physics, member of Sigma Pi Sigma. I think it is extremely important to save people from years or even decades of being agnostic or atheist, as I was
@OrangePumpkin150 Science is so-called . But because of the courage and objections of prominent Scientist who profess the faith likeJames Tour has made it possibly to dispute with pedlers of evolution and question their asumptions.
@@kevinrtres you know science means knowledge, you assume that a translation can only have one meaning. If you did as much research as Dr. Ross you would know more
I was reading Exodus 31, the other day, about how God gave Bezaleel and Aholiab a special anointing in all manner of workmanship, to build the tabernacle and the things within. That came to mind, as I was watching this and I began to think that God has given Hugh Ross a special anointing to understand science and how it aligns with what scripture says.
Perhaps you've rejected the young earth creation story as clearly told in the bible. Even right here in this video Ross confesses that there were 6 days of creation - then he goes off the rails to bend the texts to fit in with the big bang tale. You make your bed - you have to sleep in it. Choose well. So by the way re-read Exodus 20:8-11 carefully - again and again - and examine the context in which it appears.
If you want to know about Ross, get the book Refuting Compromise A biblical and scientific refutation of ‘progressive creationism’ (billions of years) as popularized by astronomer Hugh Ross by Dr Jonathan Sarfati. Ross plays a game, and pretends to exude humility and sincerity, but he is proud, puffed up and arrogant. He deludes himself, and is greatly deceived, and deceives far too many who should know better. He obviously thinks he is some kind of gnostic. He writes a book titled "Why the universe is the way it is" as though he has all the answers. Ross is a Trojan horse to the church. He rejects the creation account, and contaminates scripture with Big Bang secular philosophies that directly contradict scripture. He rejects the global flood and says it was just a local flood, and believes there was death before Adam's sin, which is an attack on God’s goodness and character. Very serious ! He claims there were "pre-adamites". (people who supposedly lived and died before Adam). His faith is in Big Bang, and he has constructed a religious cult that conforms to it. Scriptural meaning is twisted to accommodate it. Don't be so easily deceived, people...Gods word warns of these types in the last days.
@@kevinrtresbig bang was a theory by a priest but atheists hated it so much they mocked it by calling it the big bang and it stuck. You've been indoctrinated in thinking it's a atheist idea
Just be careful not to make the age of rocks your god instead of having your feet firmly planted on the Rock of Ages! Ross puts great trust in the age of rocks. Hunt down the creation websites to check the counter points to Ross' argument regarding the interpretation of Genesis 1. Don't just take his word - critically examine it in the light of GOD's word!
Finally, someone is talking about my thoughts 12 years ago... I brought this point of being on the 7th day that covers until now and my teacher didn't take my point. Thank you brother Ross.
@Mr196710 I'm from bundok part of Philippines, never heard about this, just reading my Bible when this thought came to me. It's amazing how The Holy Spirit works.
@@TeacherZia-m2o The 7th day lasting till now is just bollocks - we go in week after week and every day is just another day. This man places more trust in the age of rocks than in the Rock of Ages hence his emphasis on the science of man instead of the plainly understood Word of God as spoken in the bible.
Dr. Ross , I truly enjoy your explanations as they make sense to my mind and much more context and background information is available . I just found this channel and seek out new videos all the time ! I’m also interested in getting some of your books , very informative as well . Again , thank you !
Don't let this remain book learning only...his answer to the first question SHOULD compel you to give your heart and soul to Christ- like he did. Do not procrastinate to enjoy sin longer. God may reject YOU for your laziness towards His mercy bringing you this man's teachings.
Some of the most intelligent, well-read, mind blowing Biblical scholars, experts, writers, and teachers are from Canada: Hugh Ross, Gary Wayne, Wesley Huff, etc. God bless these men.
I came to my faith for about a year, truly believe in God, and have a desire to read the Bible, the story somehow feel so natural for me, and when I finished chapter 2, I got the feeling we're are still in the seventh day of creation. Great to have someone have the same idea 😊😊😊
I believe we are at the end of the 6000 Years of mankind and we are coming up to the Rapture, the 7 year Tribulation of Christ's Judgement on His created earth and the beginning of His 1000 year reign, starting and finishing the 7,000 years of mankind. The as Revelation say, He, Jesus Christ, Father and Holy spirit will destroy the old and create a perfect new earth. Book of Revelation spells this out quite well, IF one takes the time to study it. Spectacular book. Go into it without thinking it hard to understand, there are many great resources to help. But Revelation is the Lord's great piece of information to everyone on what to expect and be warned of.
Thank you Sir, the mystery is always unfolding into the purpose of Gods great plan. There is much more man does not understand that can be reasoned . Fascinating! God in fact and he has a great love for all his creation.🙏🏻❤️❤️❤️
Listening to Dr Ross because I heard his testimony, and any scientist who is also a Christian is worth giving some time to, to hear him speak. But while he has some faith in the Biblical account, it is also clear he has an equal amount of unbelief. Let all do the Berean thing and go and study the Word for ourselves.
Doing "the Berean thing" is indeed noble and obedient to God's direction. So I must ask you, please specify how you calculate the "equal amount of unbelief" in the Bible, that you claim for Dr. Ross?
@@gregrice1354 I'll be brief or else it will turn into a sermon. Wherever the Bible indicates a time period, unless it says otherwise, (such as in the books where symbolism is used........namely Daniel and Revelation, and in both books the angel tells the writer the meaning of the symbols, it is literal time. IE, a day means just what it says. Moses was clear that the creation days were 'evenings and mornings' so the reader would know exactly how long it was. 24hrs. To a Hebrew every day begins at sunset, hence the evening is followed by the morning. To not believe this from Genesis 1, will lead to many erroneous theological ideas. The movement of the planets give us our time in months, seasons and years, (Gen 1:14), but the only place we get the seven day cycle is from the first week on this planet. About 2500 years later when the commandments were repeated and written in stone by the Great Lawgiver, the fourth one reminds all to Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. Six days work and then Shabbat. IE rest. The first seventh day was made holy (Gen 2) and that sets the pattern for all subsequent time. Much more could be said and many verses compared hence the Berean principle. Hope that helps.
That’s the exact argument that was used when the Christian worldview was geocentric. It took the church Almost 100 years to admit the science observations were correct,and a simple reading of the text was skewed. The earth is not stationary etc, and if we didn’t have the science ,exegetically geocentricity would win the day.
Our kids grow up with religions. As much as they can learn science and all its extensions, god will survive within their works. And we get to savor them
Lovely interpretation. *_Kudos!_* And we should all feel free to interpret until we find *_God's Truth!_* Personally, I currently think Genesis 1.3 is about God ALLOWING the functional reason for Light to exist -- that of *_Awareness!_* 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯
One of my great loves is science. Particularly physics. I've always struggled with creation in Genesis. Most Christians have gotten it wrong, including my pastors. Hearing Dr. Ross' explanation has given me the understanding I've always wanted.
On day 4 scripture speaks of God creating plants with seed within itself. But then it says that the earth brought forth plants. My thinking is that God planted the seeds and they remained dormant until the things needed for germination and growth were in place.
Hey Dr. Ross - I really like that term you applied to yourself at the beginning of the lecture - I'm also a "think-a-holic" and that gives me an idea for the name for the apologetics group that we're hoping to start as a replacement of the now discontinued local RTB chapter.
I always thought that animals grew and shed the hair because of the weather. But I noticed my horse shedding his winter hair while it was still cold weather. It was then that I was told that they start shedding according to the position of the sun and the length of daylight.
I am a Christian and believe in creation, but I'm still struggling with the day 4 plants, day 5 sun/moon and stars. If it's about fog, how could plants that depend on photo tropic behaviors grow and orient themselves, let alone get enough sunlight to grow?
Scripture says that the earth brought forth plants. My thinking is that God created the seeds. These seeds remained dormant until the things needed for germination and growth were in place.
If the days in Genesis are long periods of time how did animals die off and go extinct before sin enters the world? How did plants survive without insects and animals to pollinate the. If their creation is separated by long periods of time?
I appreciate this presentation and Dr. Ross’ attitude. I object to what he said at the end about creeds. Why elevate Catholic creeds to the level of “essential Christian doctrine“? Nevertheless, he made a good point about Christian history regarding the age of the Earth, etc..
Hugh Ross might be a wrong teacher as others said it but I believe that he is a believer of the Lord Jesus Christ. He believes in his birth through virgin Mary, his life, death, and resurrection and he hopes for Christ's second coming. So don't be surprised if you find him in heaven.
Churches everywhere have Christmas nativity set featuring the first two people to question the virgin birth. Think of it! How scandalous: Mary and Joseph were the first two to question the virgin birth. They must have had the Hebrew Biology 101! Wow! Even backwards, Wow!
In the scriptures it says that God divided the light from the dark before He spoke the sun into existence. That tells me there was some form of light that was intermingled with darkness. Doing this dividing made way for the creation of the greater light or the sun. It was God making way for the sun--a greater light. John the Baptist came out of the wilderness. The wilderness represented the former light that was given by Moses'writings including the law and by the prophets and kings such as David who were anointed by the Holy Spirit. But the true light got mixed up with man's sinfulness, false gods of the heathen and even God's own chosen people's straying. John shouted, " Make Way for the Lord! "He exhorted men to repent! He wanted them on a higher road with all the stones-- the stumbling stones-- cast away to prepare the way for the Messiah. He washed them in baptism from their former ways. And then the greater Light came... The son of God, the Light of the world that lighted every man. John was called the most righteous man that ever lived. But the Son of man was Righteousness! The Truth had dawned and It would experience an eclipse and then shine on for eternity. This is my prayer: "Lord let me separate the Light from the darkness and fully experience the eclipse of your death that I might pass from darkness to Light and walk in the Light as you are in the Light and have fellowship with You, Your blood cleansing me from all sin." Amen.
I have a problem with people saying that the Earth was under the water when they Bible says Gen 1:6-8 and God called the firmament Heaven Then let the waters under the firmament gather together and the dry land appear My understanding is that he compressed the waters under the firmament untill it solidifies to form dry land and the seas
Romans 5:12 “Through one man sin entered into the world, and through sin death, and so death passed to all mankind in turn.” This is clear death came to “all mankind”, not animals. Why would God kill animals due to man’s sin? This is YEC teaching not Bible teaching: animals killed due to man's sin.
@@djsarg7451Slander? You claim God killing all land animals (in Noah's flood) is young earth creationist teaching, not the teaching of the Bible?! Gen. 3 Cursed is the ground because of you. Gen. 6: 3 "And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, ... for it repenteth me that I have made them." And Romans 8: 20-22, "For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now." The entire creation was cursed and put into bondage to await God's final redemption. It is pretty simple Bible teaching. I'm left wondering how you explain millions of years of death before man's sin in your (and Ross') old earth philosophy?
What is the Jeremiah 33 scripture he’s referencing in the Q&A? I can’t find it, maybe he memorized a different translation than what I’m reading from (HCSB)
The laughter at the man asking about the firmament and simply not acknowledging with a few sentences his question tells me all I need to know. There is a pompous nature disguised in many intellectual types. God uses whatever method he can to bring his people to him, it seems. But I have a hard time swallowing intellectualism when it is used as a way to elevate oneself above others - you don’t have to think that’s what you’re doing, Mr. Ross and audience, but it’s shows. What isn’t said is louder than what is.
However, Hugh, before He made the choice "whether they needed to suffer", He made it available that they did not have to, if they ATE of the tree of life, which He made available to them also.
Christians are not hard to find in Canada!! Oh my hahaha there are churches on every other street corner and many many Christians, including myself!! :) However, probably in comparison with the US, this would be somewhat true! :)
Truth=truth. God cannot lie. Science is fact. Bending science to fit a mis-translation of Hebrew into some bizarro story only chases away rational people to an eternity in hell. To say God’s science (yes, He created it!) is a lie and is to accuse Him of being a liar. I urge you to be cautious here. The far greater creation miracle and the greater love is shown through how God meticulously prepared this world for His man.
@jony3775 God's word is the Authority. Science is actually not "fact", there are facts involved in science, but science changes all the time. Some aspects of science are facts, but what's called "historical science " is unproovable and, at best, a theory. The Christian has to weigh scientific theories against God's word, which is the authority , not the other way around. That's my whole point. If we have to jump through hoops to make the bible match what we accept as scientific facts, they may not actually be facts, then we are in error. The plane reading of scripture brings about the young earth model and the rest of the bible lines up with that model.
Exodus 20:11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy. I don't think He cohld make it any clearer. Yet people still push for more time.
If Adam had not sinned, he would have continued to live in a perfect earth. God said it WAS very good. The Earth would not have run down. God put man on the Earth to live forever, which is why we are told in scripture that the Times of Restitution of ALL Things is coming, on the earth. The old world social order gives way to Christ's kingdom.
Help. What did I miss? Plants were on earth millions of years before the sun was in the sky? I must have missed how they thrived without sunlight. What did I miss?
Sunlight can penetrate atmospheric fog. It's just not translucent. Foliage grows on the floor of the Amazon, and some of the sea bottom, where there is way less sunlight.
The sun was there on day 1 . Even today there is no light on the surface of the planet Venus. It does not mean there is no sun ,but that the atmosphere is too thick for light to reach the surface.
How does Hugh Ross explain the fact that death was in the world before sin? This would be the case if fossil records were dated to the time before Adam and Eve. This contradicts Rom. 6:23. No Sin, No Death! I guess, when people try to marry evolution and creation, then the whole biblical teaching flies up in their faces.
I applaud your desire to defend the bible record and wholeheartedly agree,that it is a sure,truthful reference on whatever subjects it touches on. Personally, i have found i have to take great care not to do two things. 1.To not take well corroborated scientific truths,as automatically being adversarial to the bible. What is called science,is in truth,the attempt to uncover truth,about reality.It is a gradual progressive process,but it is,whether its practioners believe in god or not,a methodical search for uncovering truths regarding how god builds a universe, it is not my enemy. People within it may try to distort or mess with things within that body of knowledge,but,the truths are there,and it is up to people who love truth,whether they're god fearing or not,to call out when it is straying from that grand goal of pursuit of truth. Fundamentally though, clear scientific truths will only add to the bible account, no matter what people may try to do. We have no reason to fear science itself. 2.I must, use the bible correctly. This takes much effort,but i find it helps by being careful not to take things out of context,its so easy to focus on a verse in order to prove my own thought or point of view,,and to ignore the previous verses,or chapter, which set that verse in the proper context. Another thing ive learned,is to also collect all the rest of points the bible may make about that same subject matter,in the other bible books,this gives a clearer view of gods flawless thinking on the given subject. I learnt this way of careful study,from great god fearing men,who more than a century ago used these methods to get clear views of bible truths. It is easy for us to misunderstand what god is saying,and we dont want to stumble those who already doubt him. 3.Be patient,things aren't always quickly apparent. In Rom chapters 5,6, god is using Paul to address the matter of where human sin and death originated from,he was not making a statement regarding death in reference to all living things.In fact the whole theme of the bible,is written regarding this grand purpose that god has for mankind,and how it will be achieved. In chapter 5 he specifically address the origin of human death,as being the fatal decision Adam made in Eden,and the consequences this has for all of us. God reveals his response to this dire situation ie,supplying a ransom that will pay the price of bondage, and release mankind from this situation they are stuck in.Sin brings death,just as night follows day. In some of gods final words to mankind in Rev:21:4 god paints a picture of all things he will remedy,or reverse for mankind,outcry,mourning,pain and death, are the things he promises to reverse for mankind. When he sent his chief representative,Jesus,you will recall he resurrected and cured people,not pets or cattle,as a way to demonstrate to those people,and to us,the things which he would do at a future time globally.He further stated there would be a grand ressurection of humans in John:5:28,29. So,we can see the picture that is forming right? Nowhere does the bible suggest that animals did not expire before Adam,or that they only started dying, after the fall. The ransom was provided to remove humans from endlessly being born into a dying race, it is a provision only for those made in gods image. I personally thought that the gentleman who gave this talk,is a man who sincerely loves the book of creation,and the bible,and he gave a very reasonable,compelling talk. My hope,is that as people who are in awe of this amazing creator,as i believe you are,that together we can learn and grow from each other.
Imogene is ‘exhibit B’ (I was going to say exhibit A, but I guess Hugh holds that position) of the mental gymnastics people will go through to explain away the clear teaching of scripture.
Animal death, unlike human death, did not result from sin. Romans 5:12 says that sin came into the world through one man and spread to the human race, not to the animal kingdom. When God declared that his creation was good at the end of the sixth day, he must have had in mind the complex relationships within ecosystems, where predators, prey, scavengers, and pollinators all play specific roles. The life cycles of animals, including birth and death, contribute to the overall functioning and health of the earth’s ecosystems. Psalm 104:21 describes how “young lions roar for their prey, seeking their food from God.” Lions are carnivorous predators, which means they primarily eat meat from prey. That is how God designed them. 2 Peter 2:12 says that animals are “creatures of instinct, born to be caught and destroyed.” Humans, on the other hand, are different. We were made in God’s image. We have the potential for eternal life through faith in Christ. Being creatures of instinct, animals are unable to put faith in Christ and receive eternal life.
@@jollyrancher521 I see it differently, my friend. Look, Romans 20-22 make it clear that the Fall is not just limited to humanity, but has an impact on all of creation. Creation suffers from corruption and death, and this is directly linked to the Fall. Greetings from Switzerland and blessings, my friend.
@@BolzGue Thanks for your reply. I would just point out that although the Greek term "creation" in Romans 8:22 can refer to the creation in general, including animals, "creation" in this context refers exclusively to the human creation. Romans 8:19 says that "the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God" and verse 21 says that "the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God." (ESV) Only humans are waiting for that time when they will be set free from sin and become children of God. Colossians 1:23 also uses the term “creation” in reference to humans. It says that the gospel “has been proclaimed in all creation under heaven.”
Bible - This is the inerrant Word of God from the creator of all things. Hugh Ross - Buy my books and they will tell you the truth about the things that God got wrong in his eyewitness testimonies.
God didn't create the sun, moon, and stars UNTIL day 4, not in the beginning [time line 44:35]. The scriptures doesn't state exactly how the light came about. But God himself is light, however, light could have just appeared by his word .
Dr Ross is awesome and I agree with him on a lot of points. But when it comes to the account of the flood I believe he is unequivocally incorrect. Genesis 6:7 says "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air.." Genesis 6:13 "And God said unto Noah, The end of ALL FLESH is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth." Genesis 7:21-23 " And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man. All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land died. And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark". The Bible is reeeeaally going out of it's way to make sure there is no misunderstanding: IT'S THE WHOLE WORLD. So anything else in the Bible that Dr Ross is pulling from to claim otherwise is, with all due respect to him, being stretched very thinly to fit the narrative he wants.
An astrophysicist speaking the language of the lost sounds so hard on the ear. Creationism cannot be reconciled with science because it has no science in it.
Aren't we supposed to be testing science with Scripture? If you're using science to.test Scripture you're already admitting that your actual religion and the foundation of your life is science, not the Bible. Christian syncretism is alive and well in the West.
What you are saying has no sense. God gave us intelligence and that results in science. When you use science to prove the truth of the Bible you are doing what God wants us to prove. God doesn't need to avoid challenge... Because He & hos word IS TRUE... He challenges us in many passages to prove his word... He's not afraid of putting his word to proof... Blessings from Caracas, Venezuela... God bless Dr Hugh Ross... God & His word IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE... GLORY TO OUR ONLY GOD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST!
God does not want us to be ignorant of the marvels he has created. Pointing out that we are finally capable of understanding the observational proof of creation, through His Word written well before anyone had any clue about the science we know today, is not replacing the Bible with science. In fact it’s a maturing of faith and equipping to go out and disciple to people.
To Our family ucu. If God created all things including science, does it really matter. In other words scripture supports science therefore in reverse science supports scripture. Keep in mind Genesis wasn't necessarily a scientific account but rather a story that the audience could understand . However it does convey truth at the same time. So if you remove God or an intelligent being please explain how everything came from nothing? God bless, you welcome to believe what ever you like.
Why would it take God a long time to create the universe? He spoke it into existence. How long could that take? Why did he have to rest? Better yet, what was he doing for the eternity before creating the universe? Sitting around? Playing solitaire? When did God create the angels? Did he create them before creating the universe, or after? Why did he create Satan? What was the point of doing that?
Aww , and Luke 10:18.. and of course you know from a research standpoint even though I delivered you the scriptures still look at the whole text so that you can get the whole for understanding of what it is saying
The title of this presentation says it all in a nutshell about Old Earth Creationism--- ‘science’-- in your minds-- is the ultimate arbiter of Truth. Wherever ‘science appears to be at odds with the bible, it is the bible which must give way. The gymnastics and gyrations you go through in your efforts to ‘save’ the bible from itself are the result.
The earth is not 6,000 years old and the Bible does not teach this. Hebrews 4:9-10: "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." This tells us that the 7th day has not ended. Thus day 7 is a long time span, thus day 1 to 6 must be a long time span. Each believer are to enter into day 7. Also there no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended. Biblical Hebrew has a limited vocabulary, with fewer words compared to other languages, such as English or Spanish. This means words often have multiple meanings determined by context. Day - yom is commonly rendered as day in English translations, but the word yom can be used in different ways to refer to different time spans thus literally is: Sunrise to sunset Sunset to next sunset Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ). We use the word day the same today: In my grandfather’s day cars did not go very fast. Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains". The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hour.
@@djsarg7451 wrong--the sabbath rest spoken of in Hebrews refers to salvation--not an era. We can only be saved by giving up our works--(since no sacrificial system remains now that Christ is the ‘once for all’ lamb)--- there was a literal seventh day and it is a picture of God’s rest--which we can only enter by faith--not works
@@johnbullard902 1) :sabbath rest spoken of in Hebrews refers to salvation" Yes, those saved, are told to enter into the 7 th day. 7th day started after Eve was created, and continues today. Gen 1 day is Day is not the same as 24 hours, not in the past and not today. The earth is not 6,000 years old and the Bible does not teach this. Hebrews 4:9-10: "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." This tells us that the 7th day has not ended. Thus day 7 is a long time span, thus day 1 to 6 must be a long time span. Each believer are to enter into day 7. Also there no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended. Biblical Hebrew has a limited vocabulary, with fewer words compared to other languages, such as English or Spanish. This means words often have multiple meanings determined by context. Day - yom is commonly rendered as day in English translations, but the wo rd yom can be used in different ways to refer to different time spans thus literally is: Sunrise to sunset Sunset to next sunset Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ). We use the word day the same today: In my grandfather’s day cars did not go very fast. Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains". Gen. 2:4 “in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens” The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hours. Have you entered into the 7th as Hebrews 4:9-10 asks you to? Creationism does not equal young Earth. There are many Old Earth creationists.
Deut 32 4..Psalms 111:2-3, Isiah 45:18, Jeremiah 4:23.. even though there is a lot more these scriptures show that God did not create a Genesis 1:2 Earth and that Genesis 1:2 Earth was something that happened and not that the way that God had created it
God "rested" from His Creation. Right? How many thousands of years ago was that? We are still in the 7th day. Why do you need to twist and distort the text?
Mr Ross,l you are missing the main point of Genesis 1:2 and it is a Hebrew phrase called tohu va boho.. I am so sure that with the work and what you have already done with your knowledge of scripture that if you look for these points right here you will one understand that your view of how you saw things was wrong and to will change and spread a different message of how God, or you will start explaining the characters of God, and how it is scientifically ifits in the Bible
Testing Science with Genesis: Genesis 1, [1] In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. God didn't create in time. He created with time. Proverbs 1, [7] The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: But fools despise wisdom and instruction. Colossians 2, [2] that their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; [3] in whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. [4] And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words.
This is only if the correct frame of reference is not set. Gen1:1 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. It was dark over the water on Earth. No light can get to earth. Job 38 also writes about creation and helps us understand the darkness and water cycle. The Bible tells why the earth was dark and why God said “let there be light”: Job 38:9 When I made the clouds its garment and wrapped it in thick darkness. So the two tell use the clouds went from dark to lighter. The clear sky does not come till " moon to mark the seasons" now with have blue sky
"Water above and water below" - means we are in the watery abys. The universe is drop of water in the boundless light. You are the reflection of the light locked in the drop.
I greatly admire and respect this man. However, there is little need to check scripture with science, instead we need to be checking science against scripture.
Mr Ross in Genesis 1:2 why would an all-knowing all order systemic God create a earth that was Null and voided.. I would say that one of the very first things you are missing in Genesis 1:2 is the characteristics of God and that he would not have created a world that look like this.. and I will send you the scriptures in the Bible that says that he did not create earth like this
" put genisis to the test with modern scientific discoveries " I think he meant to say is let's put to test these latest scientific discoveries to Genesis. Science doesn't prove biblical claims, the bible proves science.
"Look at all 66 (sic) books of the Bible, and interpret them all literally.." Except -- you should say -- John 6, where Jesus says repeatedly in different ways that we have to gnaw on his body. This is when the proto-protestants first appear and walk away from such a "hard saying." Read it.
The earth is not 6,000 years old and the Bible does not teach this. Hebrews 4:9-10: "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." This tells us that the 7th day has not ended. Thus day 7 is a long time span, thus day 1 to 6 must be a long time span. Each believer are to enter into day 7. Also there no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended. Biblical Hebrew has a limited vocabulary, with fewer words compared to other languages, such as English or Spanish. This means words often have multiple meanings determined by context. Day - yom is commonly rendered as day in English translations, but the word yom can be used in different ways to refer to different time spans thus literally is: Sunrise to sunset Sunset to next sunset Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ). We use the word day the same today: In my grandfather’s day cars did not go very fast. Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains". The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hour.
Dr Hugh Ross seduces through his 'Progressive Creationism', but is responded to in a biblical and scientific fashion in Dr Jonathan Sarfati's book : 'Refuting Compromise !' once and for all !😢
@@Mario_Sky_521 Why would I need to match my "grey matter" with the Fraud Hugh Ross? Creationism is a fairy tale. There is no evidence for any god, no evidence for magical creation.
As a student of science, but raised ‘Christian’, my faith was always weak and conflicted. Hugh’s teachings completely unlocked my heart, now I’m a born-again Holy Spirit filled weapon for the Most High. I’ve seen/participated/received so many miracles since then..! 🎉🎉 Thank you, Hugh!!!❤ God is AMAZING and so GOOD!!
Watch the videos of Aron Ra for a REAL education on evolution.
Hugh Ross has his head up his ass.
@@howardpalys6929 lol ah yes, snail to whale evolution. Gotta love fairytales! Jesus loves you! ❤️
Evolution is a fact as well as a theory, fossils, genetics especially beneficial mutations, meteorology, geology, paleontology, dendochrontology, anthropology, archeology, zoology, mythology, chemistry, physics and pretty much every science sreams evolution.
@@howardpalys6929 can science be wrong or the facts be misinterpreted?
Dr. Ross is amazing. Love his scientific approach to all Biblical topics. Thank you! All glory to God!
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Many Christians have rejected their faith because of science even though they do not have a science background.
I am glad to see scientists themselves are defending the Bible and educating people like me who are vulnerable.
I have a master's degree in physics, member of Sigma Pi Sigma. I think it is extremely important to save people from years or even decades of being agnostic or atheist, as I was
I believe, God help my disbelief.😊
@skeeterburke Thank you Mr. Burke. Go for it!😊
@OrangePumpkin150 Science is so-called . But because of the courage and objections of prominent Scientist who profess the faith likeJames Tour has made it possibly to dispute with pedlers of evolution and question their asumptions.
@@skeeterburke What exactly have you been saved from?
I followed Dr Ross for more than 30 years,and read many of his books. I learned a lot and my faith is stronger than ever
You faith in the science of men? Or the Word of God? choose carefully.
@@kevinrtres you know science means knowledge, you assume that a translation can only have one meaning. If you did as much research as Dr. Ross you would know more
Praise God, i am so glad to hear that this man's work has kept your faith strong for 30 years, never let that fire be quenched, God bless you.
I was reading Exodus 31, the other day, about how God gave Bezaleel and Aholiab a special anointing in all manner of workmanship, to build the tabernacle and the things within. That came to mind, as I was watching this and I began to think that God has given Hugh Ross a special anointing to understand science and how it aligns with what scripture says.
How in the world is this my first time hearing this man?
Perhaps you've rejected the young earth creation story as clearly told in the bible. Even right here in this video Ross confesses that there were 6 days of creation - then he goes off the rails to bend the texts to fit in with the big bang tale. You make your bed - you have to sleep in it. Choose well.
So by the way re-read Exodus 20:8-11 carefully - again and again - and examine the context in which it appears.
I heard few weeks ago and tought the same thing.. but all happens in Gods time and the time has come for us.
If you want to know about Ross, get the book Refuting Compromise
A biblical and scientific refutation of ‘progressive creationism’ (billions of years) as popularized by astronomer Hugh Ross
by Dr Jonathan Sarfati.
Ross plays a game, and pretends to exude humility and sincerity, but he is proud, puffed up and arrogant. He deludes himself, and is greatly deceived, and deceives far too many who should know better. He obviously thinks he is some kind of gnostic. He writes a book titled "Why the universe is the way it is" as though he has all the answers.
Ross is a Trojan horse to the church. He rejects the creation account, and contaminates scripture with Big Bang secular philosophies that directly contradict scripture. He rejects the global flood and says it was just a local flood, and believes there was death before Adam's sin, which is an attack on God’s goodness and character. Very serious !
He claims there were "pre-adamites". (people who supposedly lived and died before Adam). His faith is in Big Bang, and he has constructed a religious cult that conforms to it. Scriptural meaning is twisted to accommodate it. Don't be so easily deceived, people...Gods word warns of these types in the last days.
I think he has been off the radar with illness. I use to follow him alot in the past, and he does look a lot older now. Wiser too maybe.
@@kevinrtresbig bang was a theory by a priest but atheists hated it so much they mocked it by calling it the big bang and it stuck. You've been indoctrinated in thinking it's a atheist idea
He is definitely a gift from God❤️
At last, I heard a scientific and theologically sensible presentation of creation with an eschatological perspective. Thank you Hugh.
What a great revelation!!! Thank you Lord God for this new information that you revealed to us through the speaker. To God be the Glory!!?
Just be careful not to make the age of rocks your god instead of having your feet firmly planted on the Rock of Ages!
Ross puts great trust in the age of rocks.
Hunt down the creation websites to check the counter points to Ross' argument regarding the interpretation of Genesis 1. Don't just take his word - critically examine it in the light of GOD's word!
Truth zingers are like a BOLT of lightning. It is so refreshing to hear one present his point of view without huge sponsor dollar strings.
Where is the TRUTH in this?
Finally, someone is talking about my thoughts 12 years ago... I brought this point of being on the 7th day that covers until now and my teacher didn't take my point. Thank you brother Ross.
Time to seek different teachers. This gent has been speaking on these topics since the 1980s.
@Mr196710 I'm from bundok part of Philippines, never heard about this, just reading my Bible when this thought came to me. It's amazing how The Holy Spirit works.
@@TeacherZia-m2o The 7th day lasting till now is just bollocks - we go in week after week and every day is just another day. This man places more trust in the age of rocks than in the Rock of Ages hence his emphasis on the science of man instead of the plainly understood Word of God as spoken in the bible.
Good man Dr Ross and thank you and God bless you and yours.
Dr. Ross , I truly enjoy your explanations as they make sense to my mind and much more context and background information is available . I just found this channel and seek out new videos all the time ! I’m also interested in getting some of your books , very informative as well . Again , thank you !
Don't let this remain book learning only...his answer to the first question SHOULD compel you to give your heart and soul to Christ- like he did. Do not procrastinate to enjoy sin longer. God may reject YOU for your laziness towards His mercy bringing you this man's teachings.
For getting more confused.
Some of the most intelligent, well-read, mind blowing Biblical scholars, experts, writers, and teachers are from Canada: Hugh Ross, Gary Wayne, Wesley Huff, etc. God bless these men.
I came to my faith for about a year, truly believe in God, and have a desire to read the Bible, the story somehow feel so natural for me, and when I finished chapter 2, I got the feeling we're are still in the seventh day of creation. Great to have someone have the same idea 😊😊😊
Its better to stay true to the bible than to your feelings. Listen to Ken Hams take on this from AnswersinGenesis.
I believe we are at the end of the 6000 Years of mankind and we are coming up to the Rapture, the 7 year Tribulation of Christ's Judgement on His created earth and the beginning of His 1000 year reign, starting and finishing the 7,000 years of mankind. The as Revelation say, He, Jesus Christ, Father and Holy spirit will destroy the old and create a perfect new earth. Book of Revelation spells this out quite well, IF one takes the time to study it. Spectacular book. Go into it without thinking it hard to understand, there are many great resources to help. But Revelation is the Lord's great piece of information to everyone on what to expect and be warned of.
Beautiful
Hallelujah!
I’m going to get reading.
We are so blessed to have you Hugh🙏
Thank you Sir, the mystery is always unfolding into the purpose of Gods great plan. There is much more man does not understand that can be reasoned . Fascinating! God in fact and he has a great love for all his creation.🙏🏻❤️❤️❤️
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This has helped me start to understand the six days of creation, like many Christian’s I struggled with young earth vs old earth.
So why did you reject the biblical timeline?
Listening to Dr Ross because I heard his testimony, and any scientist who is also a Christian is worth giving some time to, to hear him speak. But while he has some faith in the Biblical account, it is also clear he has an equal amount of unbelief. Let all do the Berean thing and go and study the Word for ourselves.
Doing "the Berean thing" is indeed noble and obedient to God's direction. So I must ask you, please specify how you calculate the "equal amount of unbelief" in the Bible, that you claim for Dr. Ross?
@@gregrice1354 I'll be brief or else it will turn into a sermon. Wherever the Bible indicates a time period, unless it says otherwise, (such as in the books where symbolism is used........namely Daniel and Revelation, and in both books the angel tells the writer the meaning of the symbols, it is literal time. IE, a day means just what it says. Moses was clear that the creation days were 'evenings and mornings' so the reader would know exactly how long it was. 24hrs. To a Hebrew every day begins at sunset, hence the evening is followed by the morning. To not believe this from Genesis 1, will lead to many erroneous theological ideas. The movement of the planets give us our time in months, seasons and years, (Gen 1:14), but the only place we get the seven day cycle is from the first week on this planet. About 2500 years later when the commandments were repeated and written in stone by the Great Lawgiver, the fourth one reminds all to Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. Six days work and then Shabbat. IE rest. The first seventh day was made holy (Gen 2) and that sets the pattern for all subsequent time. Much more could be said and many verses compared hence the Berean principle. Hope that helps.
That’s the exact argument that was used when the Christian worldview was geocentric. It took the church Almost 100 years to admit the science observations were correct,and a simple reading of the text was skewed. The earth is not stationary etc, and if we didn’t have the science ,exegetically geocentricity would win the day.
God bless you Dr. Ross.
Great calmness.
Beautiful information and knowledge depth.
Appreciated the presentation. Commenters: The measure you use will be measured back to you. A law like gravity.
Our kids grow up with religions. As much as they can learn science and all its extensions, god will survive within their works. And we get to savor them
God said in the end times no one can deny the existence of God.
Should be ‘testing science with the bible’
God Bless you Dr.Ross
Interesting when you mention about the 8% oxygen....
May be its related to the 8 people in the flood...that's why I'm here today
Lovely interpretation. *_Kudos!_* And we should all feel free to interpret until we find *_God's Truth!_* Personally, I currently think Genesis 1.3 is about God ALLOWING the functional reason for Light to exist -- that of *_Awareness!_*
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Dr. Ross❤️🙌
One of my great loves is science. Particularly physics. I've always struggled with creation in Genesis. Most Christians have gotten it wrong, including my pastors. Hearing Dr. Ross' explanation has given me the understanding I've always wanted.
This is what happens when you value "science" over what the bible actually says
Dr. Ross is the best I've ever listened to concerning our Creator and His creation and preaching the gospel within his message on this.
On day 4 scripture speaks of God creating plants with seed within itself. But then it says that the earth brought forth plants. My thinking is that God planted the seeds and they remained dormant until the things needed for germination and growth were in place.
The word of God is Truth. We should test science with Genesis!
Hey Dr. Ross - I really like that term you applied to yourself at the beginning of the lecture - I'm also a "think-a-holic" and that gives me an idea for the name for the apologetics group that we're hoping to start as a replacement of the now discontinued local RTB chapter.
I always thought that animals grew and shed the hair because of the weather. But I noticed my horse shedding his winter hair while it was still cold weather. It was then that I was told that they start shedding according to the position of the sun and the length of daylight.
I am the first to comment!🙂
I am a Christian and believe in creation, but I'm still struggling with the day 4 plants, day 5 sun/moon and stars. If it's about fog, how could plants that depend on photo tropic behaviors grow and orient themselves, let alone get enough sunlight to grow?
Scripture says that the earth brought forth plants. My thinking is that God created the seeds. These seeds remained dormant until the things needed for germination and growth were in place.
No test nessesary the bible reveals truth before science finds it , and science continues to realize the bible is correct all along .
If the days in Genesis are long periods of time how did animals die off and go extinct before sin enters the world? How did plants survive without insects and animals to pollinate the. If their creation is separated by long periods of time?
Go to the website, they answer your questions in detail.
I appreciate this presentation and Dr. Ross’ attitude. I object to what he said at the end about creeds. Why elevate Catholic creeds to the level of “essential Christian doctrine“? Nevertheless, he made a good point about Christian history regarding the age of the Earth, etc..
Hugh Ross might be a wrong teacher as others said it but I believe that he is a believer of the Lord Jesus Christ. He believes in his birth through virgin Mary, his life, death, and resurrection and he hopes for Christ's second coming. So don't be surprised if you find him in heaven.
Churches everywhere have Christmas nativity set featuring the first two people to question the virgin birth.
Think of it! How scandalous: Mary and Joseph were the first two to question the virgin birth. They must have had the Hebrew Biology 101! Wow! Even backwards, Wow!
In the scriptures it says that God divided the light from the dark before He spoke the sun into existence. That tells me there was some form of light that was intermingled with darkness. Doing this dividing made way for the creation of the greater light or the sun. It was God making way for the sun--a greater light. John the Baptist came out of the wilderness. The wilderness represented the former light that was given by Moses'writings including the law and by the prophets and kings such as David who were anointed by the Holy Spirit. But the true light got mixed up with man's sinfulness, false gods of the heathen and even God's own chosen people's straying. John shouted, " Make Way for the Lord! "He exhorted men to repent! He wanted them on a higher road with all the stones-- the stumbling stones-- cast away to prepare the way for the Messiah. He washed them in baptism from their former ways. And then the greater Light came... The son of God, the Light of the world that lighted every man. John was called the most righteous man that ever lived. But the Son of man was Righteousness! The Truth had dawned and It would experience an eclipse and then shine on for eternity. This is my prayer: "Lord let me separate the Light from the darkness and fully experience the eclipse of your death that I might pass from darkness to Light and walk in the Light as you are in the Light and have fellowship with You, Your blood cleansing me from all sin." Amen.
I have a problem with people saying that the Earth was under the water when they Bible says Gen 1:6-8 and God called the firmament Heaven
Then let the waters under the firmament gather together and the dry land appear
My understanding is that he compressed the waters under the firmament untill it solidifies to form dry land and the seas
I congratulat DR Hugh Ross on his olympic level mental gymnastics.
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I learned the Gap theory in Bible School in the 80's - It never made sense to me. He totally debunks it! Wow - that was great!
How does old earth theology explain that death didn't occur until the fall of man - after creation ended?
Romans 5:12 “Through one man sin entered into the world, and through sin death, and so death passed to all mankind in turn.” This is clear death came to “all mankind”, not animals. Why would God kill animals due to man’s sin? This is YEC teaching not Bible teaching: animals killed due to man's sin.
@@djsarg7451Slander? You claim God killing all land animals (in Noah's flood) is young earth creationist teaching, not the teaching of the Bible?!
Gen. 3 Cursed is the ground because of you.
Gen. 6: 3 "And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, ...
for it repenteth me that I have made them."
And Romans 8: 20-22,
"For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now."
The entire creation was cursed and put into bondage to await God's final redemption. It is pretty simple Bible teaching.
I'm left wondering how you explain millions of years of death before man's sin in your (and Ross') old earth philosophy?
@@djsarg7451So... God didn't kill a whole bunch of animals because of the sin of mankind during the flood of Noah?
What is the Jeremiah 33 scripture he’s referencing in the Q&A? I can’t find it, maybe he memorized a different translation than what I’m reading from (HCSB)
Verse 25
The laughter at the man asking about the firmament and simply not acknowledging with a few sentences his question tells me all I need to know. There is a pompous nature disguised in many intellectual types. God uses whatever method he can to bring his people to him, it seems. But I have a hard time swallowing intellectualism when it is used as a way to elevate oneself above others - you don’t have to think that’s what you’re doing, Mr. Ross and audience, but it’s shows. What isn’t said is louder than what is.
Does the crater pattern on the moon explain the timing of the flood when the depths open up?
Why or how can the trees and the plants exist before the sun and moon
They can’t .
I scanned the QR code and there is no "free book". What is going on???
A day is a day in the Hebrew and Greek. It is not an epoch. It was literally created in 6 days not 6 epochs
What is the book that he was handing out that he said answered the flat earth/round earth debate (since he chose not to answer the question publicly).
Dr. Ross PhD has addressed the flat Earth nonsense publicly, multiple times.
39:40 - Rescuing inerrancy.
You could not figure that out on your own?
Jeremiah 3
Restoration of Israel.
11 Then the Lord said to me: Faithless Israel has shown herself less guilty than false Judah. 12 Go, and proclaim these words towards the north, and say:
Return, faithless ISRAEL - Oracle of the Lord.
I will not look on you in anger,
for I am merciful, Oracle of the Lord.
I will not be angry for ever.
13 Only acknowledge your guilt,
that you have rebelled against the Lord your God,
and scattered your favours among strangers under every green tree,
and have not obeyed my voice, says the Lord.
14 Return, O faithless children,
for I am your master;
I will take you, one from a city and two from a family,
and I will bring you to Zion.
15 I will give you shepherds after my own heart, who will feed you with knowledge and understanding. 16 And when you have multiplied and increased in the land, in those days, says the Lord, they shall no longer say, "The ark of the covenant of the Lord." It shall not come to mind, or be remembered, or missed; nor shall another one be made. 17 At that time Jerusalem shall be called the throne of the Lord, and all nations shall gather to it, to the presence of the Lord in Jerusalem, and they shall no longer stubbornly follow their own evil will. 18 In those days the house of Judah shall join the house of Israel, and together they shall come from the land of the north to the land that I gave your ancestors for a heritage.
19 I thought
how I would set you among my children,
and give you a pleasant land,
the most beautiful heritage of all the nations.
And I thought you would call me, My Father,
and would not turn from following me.
20 Instead, as a faithless wife leaves her husband,
so you have been faithless to me, O house of Israel - Oracle of the Lord.
21 A voice on the bare heights is heard,
the plaintive weeping of Israel’s children,
because they have perverted their way,
they have forgotten the Lord their God:
22 Return, O faithless children,
I will heal your faithlessness.
‘Here we come to you;
for you are the Lord our God.
23 Truly the hills are a delusion,
the orgies on the mountains.
Truly in the Lord our God
is the salvation of Israel.
24 "But from our youth the shameful thing has devoured all for which our ancestors had laboured, their flocks and their herds, their sons and their daughters. 25 Let us lie down in our shame, and let our dishonour cover us; for we have sinned against the Lord our God, we and our ancestors, from our youth even to this day; and we have not obeyed the voice of the Lord our God."
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However, Hugh, before He made the choice "whether they needed to suffer", He made it available that they did not have to, if they ATE of the tree of life, which He made available to them also.
Christians are not hard to find in Canada!! Oh my hahaha there are churches on every other street corner and many many Christians, including myself!! :) However, probably in comparison with the US, this would be somewhat true! :)
He was speaking of when he grew up. I suspect he is much older than you.
Church attendance is very low in Canada. We also have governments who are hostile to Christianity.
Church attendance does not equate Christianity. Many are merely bench warmers, Laodicean whom God will spew from His mouth
Go examine how many of those "Christian" churches have succumbed to the rainbow madness.
The earth is young.
Yes. We don't have to compromise. Huge Ross is a nice guy and a brother in Christ, but he's wrong on the age of the earth.
Truth=truth. God cannot lie. Science is fact. Bending science to fit a mis-translation of Hebrew into some bizarro story only chases away rational people to an eternity in hell. To say God’s science (yes, He created it!) is a lie and is to accuse Him of being a liar. I urge you to be cautious here. The far greater creation miracle and the greater love is shown through how God meticulously prepared this world for His man.
@jony3775 God's word is the Authority. Science is actually not "fact", there are facts involved in science, but science changes all the time. Some aspects of science are facts, but what's called "historical science " is unproovable and, at best, a theory. The Christian has to weigh scientific theories against God's word, which is the authority , not the other way around. That's my whole point. If we have to jump through hoops to make the bible match what we accept as scientific facts, they may not actually be facts, then we are in error.
The plane reading of scripture brings about the young earth model and the rest of the bible lines up with that model.
@@jony3775Fact? Depend on the honesty of the scientist. Also upon what they started their suppecision. A false premise will lead to a false "fact."
Whatever helps you sleep at night, Mary…
Exodus 20:11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.
I don't think He cohld make it any clearer. Yet people still push for more time.
Lord, please humble your pride filled servant, Hubris Ross. Do not let him reduce your miracles to what he can explain! 🙏🏼 God is great!
Where does Adam fits into the fossil record of homo sapiens?
Were the Neaderthal prototypes for Adam?
Quiet man you may wake up god from resting !!
If Adam had not sinned, he would have continued to live in a perfect earth. God said it WAS very good. The Earth would not have run down. God put man on the Earth to live forever, which is why we are told in scripture that the Times of Restitution of ALL Things is coming, on the earth. The old world social order gives way to Christ's kingdom.
Coloque legendas em português, pois meu inglês não é muito bom. Gostaria de saber o que ele está falando.
What about the other saviour God stories that are identical to the Jesus Christ story? there were 15-20 of them
Help. What did I miss? Plants were on earth millions of years before the sun was in the sky? I must have missed how they thrived without sunlight. What did I miss?
Sunlight can penetrate atmospheric fog. It's just not translucent. Foliage grows on the floor of the Amazon, and some of the sea bottom, where there is way less sunlight.
The sun was there on day 1 . Even today there is no light on the surface of the planet Venus. It does not mean there is no sun ,but that the atmosphere is too thick for light to reach the surface.
11:59 "Psalm 95 says that God's Seventh day continues????? Are you just hoping that no one looks this up?
I think he is talking about Psalm 95 in conjunction with Hebrews 4.
@@elmarcentral I think you're right. Hebrews 4 clearly references Psalm 95 so you need to read the 2 together to get the full meaning
How does Hugh Ross explain the fact that death was in the world before sin? This would be the case if fossil records were dated to the time before Adam and Eve. This contradicts Rom. 6:23. No Sin, No Death!
I guess, when people try to marry evolution and creation, then the whole biblical teaching flies up in their faces.
I applaud your desire to defend the bible record and wholeheartedly agree,that it is a sure,truthful reference on whatever subjects it touches on.
Personally, i have found i have to take great care not to do two things.
1.To not take well corroborated scientific truths,as automatically being adversarial to the bible.
What is called science,is in truth,the attempt to uncover truth,about reality.It is a gradual progressive process,but it is,whether its practioners believe in god or not,a methodical search for uncovering truths regarding how god builds a universe, it is not my enemy.
People within it may try to distort or mess with things within that body of knowledge,but,the truths are there,and it is up to people who love truth,whether they're god fearing or not,to call out when it is straying from that grand goal of pursuit of truth.
Fundamentally though, clear scientific truths will only add to the bible account, no matter what people may try to do.
We have no reason to fear science itself.
2.I must,
use the bible correctly.
This takes much effort,but i find it helps by being careful not to take things out of context,its so easy to focus on a verse in order to prove my own thought or point of view,,and to ignore the previous verses,or chapter, which set that verse in the proper context.
Another thing ive learned,is to also collect all the rest of points the bible may make about that same subject matter,in the other bible books,this gives a clearer view of gods flawless thinking on the given subject.
I learnt this way of careful study,from great god fearing men,who more than a century ago used these methods to get clear views of bible truths.
It is easy for us to misunderstand what god is saying,and we dont want to stumble those who already doubt him.
3.Be patient,things aren't always quickly apparent.
In Rom chapters 5,6, god is using Paul to address the matter of where human sin and death originated from,he was not making a statement regarding death in reference to all living things.In fact the whole theme of the bible,is written regarding this grand purpose that god has for mankind,and how it will be achieved.
In chapter 5 he specifically address the origin of human death,as being the fatal decision Adam made in Eden,and the consequences this has for all of us.
God reveals his response to this dire situation ie,supplying a ransom that will pay the price of bondage, and release mankind from this situation they are stuck in.Sin brings death,just as night follows day.
In some of gods final words to mankind in Rev:21:4 god paints a picture of all things he will remedy,or reverse for mankind,outcry,mourning,pain and death, are the things he promises to reverse for mankind.
When he sent his chief representative,Jesus,you will recall he resurrected and cured people,not pets or cattle,as a way to demonstrate to those people,and to us,the things which he would do at a future time globally.He further stated there would be a grand ressurection of humans in John:5:28,29.
So,we can see the picture that is forming right?
Nowhere does the bible suggest that animals did not expire before Adam,or that they only started dying, after the fall.
The ransom was provided to remove humans from endlessly being born into a dying race, it is a provision only for those made in gods image.
I personally thought that the gentleman who gave this talk,is a man who sincerely loves the book of creation,and the bible,and he gave a very reasonable,compelling talk.
My hope,is that as people who are in awe of this amazing creator,as i believe you are,that together we can learn and grow from each other.
Imogene is ‘exhibit B’ (I was going to say exhibit A, but I guess Hugh holds that position) of the mental gymnastics people will go through to explain away the clear teaching of scripture.
Animal death, unlike human death, did not result from sin. Romans 5:12 says that sin came into the world through one man and spread to the human race, not to the animal kingdom. When God declared that his creation was good at the end of the sixth day, he must have had in mind the complex relationships within ecosystems, where predators, prey, scavengers, and pollinators all play specific roles. The life cycles of animals, including birth and death, contribute to the overall functioning and health of the earth’s ecosystems. Psalm 104:21 describes how “young lions roar for their prey, seeking their food from God.” Lions are carnivorous predators, which means they primarily eat meat from prey. That is how God designed them. 2 Peter 2:12 says that animals are “creatures of instinct, born to be caught and destroyed.” Humans, on the other hand, are different. We were made in God’s image. We have the potential for eternal life through faith in Christ. Being creatures of instinct, animals are unable to put faith in Christ and receive eternal life.
@@jollyrancher521 I see it differently, my friend. Look, Romans 20-22 make it clear that the Fall is not just limited to humanity, but has an impact on all of creation. Creation suffers from corruption and death, and this is directly linked to the Fall. Greetings from Switzerland and blessings, my friend.
@@BolzGue Thanks for your reply. I would just point out that although the Greek term "creation" in Romans 8:22 can refer to the creation in general, including animals, "creation" in this context refers exclusively to the human creation. Romans 8:19 says that "the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God" and verse 21 says that "the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God." (ESV) Only humans are waiting for that time when they will be set free from sin and become children of God. Colossians 1:23 also uses the term “creation” in reference to humans. It says that the gospel “has been proclaimed in all creation under heaven.”
Bible - This is the inerrant Word of God from the creator of all things.
Hugh Ross - Buy my books and they will tell you the truth about the things that God got wrong in his eyewitness testimonies.
What is science but man trying to explain God's creation.
God didn't create the sun, moon, and stars UNTIL day 4, not in the beginning [time line 44:35]. The scriptures doesn't state exactly how the light came about. But God himself is light, however, light could have just appeared by his word .
One question, Dr. Ross: why would YHVH even bother with Genesis 1-12? You know God believes His Word is Accurate. Hmm... Fine Tuning is His Truth
It is proof that God created the universe, earth and life. Also "and it was good" tells us of God's joy in making a home for mankind, like an artist.
Dr Ross is awesome and I agree with him on a lot of points. But when it comes to the account of the flood I believe he is unequivocally incorrect.
Genesis 6:7 says "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air.."
Genesis 6:13 "And God said unto Noah, The end of ALL FLESH is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth."
Genesis 7:21-23 " And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man. All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land died. And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark".
The Bible is reeeeaally going out of it's way to make sure there is no misunderstanding: IT'S THE WHOLE WORLD.
So anything else in the Bible that Dr Ross is pulling from to claim otherwise is, with all due respect to him, being stretched very thinly to fit the narrative he wants.
Hubris Ross is a deceiver. Can't know his heart but I know God can use him to increase his kingdom despite his prideful and misguided arrogance.
Try testing it with faith! And shake the dust off at the reprobate fools (Psalms 14:1 & 53:1)
"reprobate fools"?
Shame on you!
An astrophysicist speaking the language of the lost sounds so hard on the ear. Creationism cannot be reconciled with science because it has no science in it.
What about the other christianties very different from the Pauline Christianity stuff
Aren't we supposed to be testing science with Scripture? If you're using science to.test Scripture you're already admitting that your actual religion and the foundation of your life is science, not the Bible. Christian syncretism is alive and well in the West.
What you are saying has no sense. God gave us intelligence and that results in science. When you use science to prove the truth of the Bible you are doing what God wants us to prove. God doesn't need to avoid challenge... Because He & hos word IS TRUE... He challenges us in many passages to prove his word... He's not afraid of putting his word to proof...
Blessings from Caracas, Venezuela... God bless Dr Hugh Ross... God & His word IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE... GLORY TO OUR ONLY GOD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST!
God does not want us to be ignorant of the marvels he has created. Pointing out that we are finally capable of understanding the observational proof of creation, through His Word written well before anyone had any clue about the science we know today, is not replacing the Bible with science. In fact it’s a maturing of faith and equipping to go out and disciple to people.
To Our family ucu. If God created all things including science, does it really matter. In other words scripture supports science therefore in reverse science supports scripture.
Keep in mind Genesis wasn't necessarily a scientific account but rather a story that the audience could understand . However it does convey truth at the same time.
So if you remove God or an intelligent being please explain how everything came from nothing?
God bless, you welcome to believe what ever you like.
Why would it take God a long time to create the universe? He spoke it into existence. How long could that take? Why did he have to rest? Better yet, what was he doing for the eternity before creating the universe? Sitting around? Playing solitaire? When did God create the angels? Did he create them before creating the universe, or after? Why did he create Satan? What was the point of doing that?
Now, I know why I never catch any fish. They are running from my sinful nature. Cuz I knew I'm an amazing fisherman. That really does explain it.
Before you keyboard warriors get all upset I was just making a joke not criticizing Hugh.
Lol
@@julesverne2509I caught that and you're funny.😂
His answers to the questions ASTOUNDED ME.
Aww , and Luke 10:18.. and of course you know from a research standpoint even though I delivered you the scriptures still look at the whole text so that you can get the whole for understanding of what it is saying
The title of this presentation says it all in a nutshell about Old Earth Creationism--- ‘science’-- in your minds-- is the ultimate arbiter of Truth. Wherever ‘science appears to be at odds with the bible, it is the bible which must give way.
The gymnastics and gyrations you go through in your efforts
to ‘save’ the bible from itself are the result.
Absolutely!
You didn't listen to his answers to the first two questions did you. For Shame! Blind and deaf...
The earth is not 6,000 years old and the Bible does not teach this. Hebrews 4:9-10: "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." This tells us that the 7th day has not ended. Thus day 7 is a long time span, thus day 1 to 6 must be a long time span. Each believer are to enter into day 7. Also there no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended. Biblical Hebrew has a limited vocabulary, with fewer words compared to other languages, such as English or Spanish. This means words often have multiple meanings determined by context. Day - yom is commonly rendered as day in English translations, but the word yom can be used in different ways to refer to different time spans thus literally is:
Sunrise to sunset
Sunset to next sunset
Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ).
We use the word day the same today: In my grandfather’s day cars did not go very fast.
Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains".
The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hour.
@@djsarg7451 wrong--the sabbath rest spoken of in Hebrews refers to salvation--not an era. We can only be saved by giving up our works--(since no sacrificial system remains now that Christ is the ‘once for all’ lamb)--- there was a literal seventh day and it is a picture of God’s rest--which we can only enter by faith--not works
@@johnbullard902
1) :sabbath rest spoken of in Hebrews refers to salvation" Yes, those saved, are told to enter into the 7 th day. 7th day started after Eve was created, and continues today. Gen 1 day is
Day is not the same as 24 hours, not in the past and not today.
The earth is not 6,000 years old and the Bible does not teach this. Hebrews 4:9-10: "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." This tells us that the 7th day has not ended. Thus day 7 is a long time span, thus day 1 to 6 must be a long time span. Each believer are to enter into day 7. Also there no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended. Biblical Hebrew has a limited vocabulary, with fewer words compared to other languages, such as English or Spanish. This means words often have multiple meanings determined by context. Day - yom is commonly rendered as day in English translations, but the wo rd yom can be used in different ways to refer to different time spans thus literally is:
Sunrise to sunset
Sunset to next sunset
Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ).
We use the word day the same today: In my grandfather’s day cars did not go very fast.
Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains".
Gen. 2:4 “in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens”
The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hours.
Have you entered into the 7th as Hebrews 4:9-10 asks you to?
Creationism does not equal young Earth. There are many Old Earth creationists.
Is Genesis history the name of documentaryit's the greatest documentary about the great flood
Deut 32 4..Psalms 111:2-3, Isiah 45:18, Jeremiah 4:23.. even though there is a lot more these scriptures show that God did not create a Genesis 1:2 Earth and that Genesis 1:2 Earth was something that happened and not that the way that God had created it
on the seventh day....a long period, of time, so since then no work has been done....are you enjoying your sabbath....
God "rested" from His Creation. Right?
How many thousands of years ago was that?
We are still in the 7th day.
Why do you need to twist and distort the text?
Mr Ross,l you are missing the main point of Genesis 1:2 and it is a Hebrew phrase called tohu va boho.. I am so sure that with the work and what you have already done with your knowledge of scripture that if you look for these points right here you will one understand that your view of how you saw things was wrong and to will change and spread a different message of how God, or you will start explaining the characters of God, and how it is scientifically ifits in the Bible
Richard Dawkins enjoys hymns n Christmas carols. He just can't accept the virgin birth. I've been praying for him n others for a few yrs.
Wow!
Testing Science with Genesis:
Genesis 1, [1] In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
God didn't create in time. He created with time.
Proverbs 1, [7] The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: But fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Colossians 2, [2] that their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; [3] in whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. [4] And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words.
Bible. is. Holy. Bible is. Sceince.. bible is. History.. d. Best. Book. Of. All time.
He forgets that the lights were after the earth and recent discoveries are putting into question about the big bang
This is only if the correct frame of reference is not set. Gen1:1 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. It was dark over the water on Earth. No light can get to earth. Job 38 also writes about creation and helps us understand the darkness and water cycle. The Bible tells why the earth was dark and why God said “let there be light”: Job 38:9 When I made the clouds its garment and wrapped it in thick darkness. So the two tell use the clouds went from dark to lighter. The clear sky does not come till " moon to mark the seasons" now with have blue sky
"Water above and water below" - means we are in the watery abys.
The universe is drop of water in the boundless light.
You are the reflection of the light locked in the drop.
I greatly admire and respect this man. However, there is little need to check scripture with science, instead we need to be checking science against scripture.
The Earth was without form and void.. should be .. the Earth was laid waste.
Our sympatric friend is wrong, on day 2 there was no sun yet.
You can't serve 2 masters, it's God, or the world. No compromise
Mr Ross in Genesis 1:2 why would an all-knowing all order systemic God create a earth that was Null and voided.. I would say that one of the very first things you are missing in Genesis 1:2 is the characteristics of God and that he would not have created a world that look like this.. and I will send you the scriptures in the Bible that says that he did not create earth like this
Pls let's have the scriptures so we can look it up.... If your claims are true.
" put genisis to the test with modern scientific discoveries " I think he meant to say is let's put to test these latest scientific discoveries to Genesis. Science doesn't prove biblical claims, the bible proves science.
"Look at all 66 (sic) books of the Bible, and interpret them all literally.."
Except -- you should say -- John 6, where Jesus says repeatedly in different ways that we have to gnaw on his body. This is when the proto-protestants first appear and walk away from such a "hard saying." Read it.
So how much time did God spend creating the trillions upon trillions of planets in the universe ? Personally I have no problem with the 24 hour day
The earth is not 6,000 years old and the Bible does not teach this. Hebrews 4:9-10: "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." This tells us that the 7th day has not ended. Thus day 7 is a long time span, thus day 1 to 6 must be a long time span. Each believer are to enter into day 7. Also there no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended. Biblical Hebrew has a limited vocabulary, with fewer words compared to other languages, such as English or Spanish. This means words often have multiple meanings determined by context. Day - yom is commonly rendered as day in English translations, but the word yom can be used in different ways to refer to different time spans thus literally is:
Sunrise to sunset
Sunset to next sunset
Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ).
We use the word day the same today: In my grandfather’s day cars did not go very fast.
Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains".
The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hour.
Dr Hugh Ross seduces through his 'Progressive Creationism', but is responded to in a biblical and scientific fashion in Dr Jonathan Sarfati's book :
'Refuting Compromise !'
once and for all !😢
No, ALL of creationism is utterly refuted by science. There is NO evidence for any creationism.
@@Mario_Sky_521 Why would I need to match my "grey matter" with the Fraud Hugh Ross? Creationism is a fairy tale. There is no evidence for any god, no evidence for magical creation.