Xenoblade Chronicles 3 - Ending Explained
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2022
- Xenoblade 3 is another fantastic game in the series, but like any good Xeno game ends in a confusing, potentially unsatisfying way. Thankfully, explaining confusing things about the series is now something I do a lot, and arguably pretty well, so let's see what new light I can shed on this latest Monolith masterpiece!
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“Im telling you guys, i have a catgirl girlfriend from another universe!”
I feel you, Noah.
‘I have a girlfriend! You guys just don’t know her, she goes to a separate universe!’
i am afraid noah already loss his memory about mio... that explain why he is smile in post credit scene while listen to mio flute like he just remember something sweet in his life...
“Her ass was like THIS big, your highness!”
😂
@@tylercoon1791 Eunie: yeah and I have a boyfriend who uses paper dolls as weapons
Joran:and I'm dead. . . Wait,
I still can't get over Nia's photo during the end credits. Rex probably had the happiest ending of any protagonist in history.
I have seen people saying "Rex fans are delusional if they think that's what the photo implied lol", but it's the only way I see it making sense, why would Rex be behind the 3 girls if the babies were someone else's?
@@Fermin-hw5pd What's even more is that Rex got to bed 3 babes at the same time and everyone was cool with it.
@@Fermin-hw5pd i hated rex, but your idea is the one that holds the most water
Yup that picture 😂
Giga chad Rex lol
One thing I'd like to say is that we know from Mio's side story that an off-seer's melody resonates with people's emotions and can affect people's memories, even if they should be "scoured clean." Noah hearing Mio's song in the post credits scene could definitely be him recalling something about his time in Aionios, he seems like he recognizes the tune as he smiles and walks off towards it, rather than joining his friends. That could be the song resonating with feelings and experiences they all went through in the back of his mind or something.
One thing to add:
The melody playing at the end isn't Mio's off-seeing tune, it's the combined tune Noah and Mio would play together.
THE FLUTE MOTIF STRIKES AGAIN YEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Poppi is the gate keeper of my emotions. Having her pop out of that machine on loop and suddenly tears are streaming out of my face.
I dint cried after watch the ending. But i legit shed a tear after seeing the monado and the picture of the old crews 😂
I laughed with watery eyes out loud in my room by myself. That shit was so emotional idk why.
That was one of the most waterworks moments for me, specially seeing Nia smile like that when she sees Poppy. It was so human, so organic. I loved it. 😭😭😭
I squeed when she just suddenly appeared with no warning whatsoever, grinning her previous head off ❤
I do hope the DLC is an epilogue rather than a prequel around the founders. Would love to see the gang find a way to reunite and potentially work alongside Rex and Shulk
Agreed and honestly I think Monolith chose not to focus on the founders or a lot of past events in a significant way outside of side content and npc dialogue not for a dlc story, but to serve as references and callbacks to previous characters or things for fans of the Xenoblade series (like how no one questions why the Kevesi and Agnians are composed of multiple species except for a few scenes). Even events such as N destroying the original city or N and M’s child are barely touched upon in the story unless you look around and do side content and at that point you should be able to piece together an idea of what happened
we all do man
@@TARDISES honestly I always found it weird that we never at least see Mio, Sena or Taion as children in the XC2 world. Mio I get and maybe Sena due to theories but Taion doesn’t easily look like he’s related to anyone from the XC2 cast
The more I read peoples takes on the dlc, the more I’m torn.
I see the prequel being rex and shulk fighting to save the queens and freeing some children from the pods, one being noah, and then fighting against z. X and y are the two founders who were mentored who betrayed them. It could be a really cool way to just fill in gaps in the creation of aionios and a way to see the three protagonists fighting together (which is the meaning of the three swords picture for the dlc).
On the other hand, a sequel dlc could deal with the fog and could still lead to the three protagonists fighting together to stop the last threats to their universes. Heck, the fog could even be some lingering hate or malice from Klaus to tie it all together.
The only reason I’m more inclined to think of the dlc as a prequel is it makes more sense with gameplay mechanics. 7 party members that can interlink and again, have all three protagonists in the party. A sequel would have rex and shulk as heroes and yeah, they could fight together, but seeing them all on the field would be ultimate fanservice.
Sorry for this long post and thanks to anyone reading. Luxin, great video and analysis as always.
Both is a win win because I want to learn more about the mobius and Z from a prequal
43:26 I can think of a way this might go.
Mio: "MOM! Please call Queen Melia and ask her to put Noah on the line! PLEASE!"
Nia: "Alright, alright! Sheesh."
*Nia calls Melia and Melia sends out a search party to track down Noah*
Then she finds him and puts him on the line. Then Noah and Mio can talk to each other again through the light communicator thingy :)
F it sure, but there’s gonna be a lot of Noah’s in that room depending on how common of a name it is
I too had a similar idea that Mio would be the one to get things rolling via mama Nia. Mio would tell Nia, who would then get some memories or emotions bleeding over. Nia would then reach out to Melia who would then get some memories or emotions from their talk. Then Melia finally tells the guards to not turn away that crazy boy who keeps showing up every day, asking for Melia because "there was this whole world, and we were all there! I was a hero with a super cool welsh catgirl girlfriend" lol.
@@Xeno-The-Wanderer well considering that no one shares in 3 shares a names with another character, other than the Vandam family, Aizel is the only names that makes a comeback and at least for me if Melia's child as Aizel (Xc1) died protecting her and she wanting to go to their families could make that a connection and that Crys is apparently another ways to spell Chris
@@Nelsito99 Also Yew and Zuo from XC2, don't remember if they are from the Vandham family
@@Fermin-hw5pd would need to look at their eyepatch emblem to see what house they are from then that would give the last name
Honestly this makes me feel so much better about the ending.
I'm so happy Noah and Mio will finally get the chance to be together properly. Excellent analysis as always, bro.
Also, the possibility is now open that we gonna meet up with Rex and Shulk again in the DLC, at least one of them proud fathers. And, most importantly, we may have the possibility of Zeke von Genbu, Bringer of Chaos, meeting Reyn.
@@samt3412 AHHHH GOD I HOPE SO
@@samt3412 if you remember Zeke is a Blade eater so his lifespan is actually very long
@@ashade2877 only further proves my theory
What could possibly be the conflict to justify such a DLC? Can they really come up with a more dangerous threat than the embodiment of the collective desire to reject the future that Xenoblade protagonists strive for?
“I see you peacefully, you’re in your dreams” might refer to Mio back in her world as at the end of the game she thanks Noah for making her dreams come true.
No matter if prologue or epilogue, I do hope we see Mio‘s perspective of the worlds colliding in the DLC.
Though her contacting her queen would probably be quite a bit easier for her than Noah.
I fucking love this series. Just the mere possibility of Noah and mio interlinking across worlds gives me chills 😭
I think it’s also worth pointing out that Feature Connected shows the start of the worlds’ merge. It’s a story about an interdimensional rift involving Black Fog, after all, and it’s likely that Klaus’s “gift” at the end of 2 involved starting the reunification process. Klaus probably didn’t realize that his way of accomplishing this would destroy both worlds, but he isn’t exactly known for being responsible when it comes to messing with reality. If all of that turns out to be true, then XC3 taking place 25 years after FC is perfectly reasonable. The merge started all the way back in FC, but it wasn’t enough of a problem for either party to be concerned, or for Nia and Melia to communicate, until ~10-15 years later after Mio and Noah had both been born.
Omg! This would actually explain the connection between the black fog in FC and the black fog of Aionios! That was one thing that bothered me and that I wish the game would have explained, but this makes sense. Thank you!
Good call on the Fog, although I have to wonder if FC was even cannon though. The writing was just not very typical of the franchise and it seemed very pointless. "Nothing works! We need to figure out this mystery" "Cast a bigger spell!" "Yay us! We defeated the big bad through brute force, and all the other problems fixed themselves automatically".
I think the worlds are trying to unite because the Conduit left the planet. Nia or Melia said the worlds yearned for each other, and the fact that they didn't annihilate each other in the tens of millions of years that Klauss was the god of both worlds, tells me something was keeping them apart, rather than something is just now setting them on course.
25 years? There are cutscenes in 3 showing battles and such from 1000 years ago.
@@Htbaa The whole of Xenoblade 3 takes place inside what basically amounts to a pocket dimension while time is stopped in the real worlds. Aionios had been active and alive for thousand(s) of years, but the XC1 and XC2 worlds had been paused.
@@TestSubject06 yeah I realized that later as well, but couldn’t find back my comment anymore. It’s good to know that the XC1 and 2 worlds aren’t ancient history in 3 :-).
I would like to imagine that in my headcanon, that the catalyst for them starting work on bridging the worlds, is Eunie finding the tea book Taion made while looking for fortune clovers and knowing it is for her... basically a physical memory of their time in Aionios, proving that those memories where not just a dream.
i think if the story goes there , all of our cast in 3 will be those catalyst, probably also uniting the two previous cast members
And Mio's journal, of course.
Would origin remember the tea book?
@@hasargel I feel as if there was some reason Taion was so confident in himself, aside from him making it from things in XC1's world, which he wouldn't even know himself. He probably double and triple checked with Melia that it was possible.
I personally believe that the heroes of each game make up a triumvirate.The biggest triumvirate in modern religion also happens to line up perfectly with the stories of the series, the Hindu Triumvirate, and these parallels could be worth considering.
The Bionis is dying in Xenoblade 1. Our entire journey is, in essence, the death throes of the dying world. Zanza intends to recreate the world, to revive the Bionis. But, in defeating Zanza and becoming the world's new God, Shulk gains that power, and takes on the mantle of Brahma, the God of Creation.
Alrest is a decaying world, and will soon fall to ruin. But, rather than curse the world and vow to destroy it to create something new, Rex wants to simply solve the problem, to find more land, to protect the world. And, in defeating Malos, refuting his conclusion that the world should end, Rex (albeit only because of Klaus) takes on the mantle of Krishna, the God of Preservation.
Lastly, Aionios. Aionios is a world that is not dying. It is an endless world. But it is not boundless. It is not a good world. It is a world of endless strife. And so, we vow to end the world. And, in defeating Z, that is exactly what we do, and Noah takes on the mantle of Shiva, the Benevolent God of Destruction, as we tear down this rotten world, and allow the worlds to be set to rights by Origin, which Shulk had a hand in the creation of, allowing the cycle to continue anew, as it should.
Sparks that makes a lot of sense
Except Aionios is absolutely a decaying world. The annihilation events are eating away at the world and eventually everything will cease to exist. Maybe not within the timespan of the game but it's an absolute certainty that the two worlds' mutual destruction would have eventually happened one way or another.
One thing I will always question in these types of medias is why does eternity always have some kind of bad catch? In Xeno 3 the Moebius try to achieve eternity by stealing life from others and repeating the cycle over and over. In Xeno 1 Zanza does essentially the same thing with the Telethia.
But why not a world where they can all live forever, young, healthy, happy and no catch? No weird repeating cycle or anything. Just you enjoying your life with your loved ones for however long you want.
Like, it's too easy to say that what N did was bad, cuz his actions had bad consequences for others and his choice made everyone else lose their ability to have a choice. But what if everyone had that choice of eternity, but no bad consequences as a side effect for others if you decide to choose it?
@@TopHatLucario That’s a complicated question. Essentially, living involves taking. We need water, we need food to survive. If everyone could live forever, while creating new life, then the need for resources would quickly outpace the supply. And, without new life, the possibility for things to stagnate becomes very likely, as more and more people see things as just “the way the world works”.
And not just that, but there’s also a more religious/ethical side saying that “death is natural”, although I have my issues with that argument.
There’s also just… contemplating the idea of forever is just scary. Not seeing the people you care about grow old while you’re young (that’s not your premise), but… life is hard. It’s really hard. I’ve been through a lot in the past two years (and even more just pushing two more years back). So… the idea of me being able to stop and rest eventually… it’s nice. Of course, that’s a long, long way away (and I do have a lot of things I want to do), but… the idea of accruing centuries of pain… I’d probably end my own life at some point.
Y’know, i was going to nitpick and point out that Krishna himself isn’t the god of preservation, as he is just an avatar (the eighth one, specifically) of Vishnu, the actual god of preservation… however, Krishna was also a god of love who once duplicated himself to sleep with 60000 princesses at once, so maybe he really is the most accurate fit for Rex
I'm just saying, Z was really sitting comfy for a long time for a reason. The only way for him to feasibly lose is from Ouroboros, which requires strong emotions from people from both universe. That strong emotion leads to a desire for those 2 to stay together, which is just what Z and Moebius in general are. Pretty safe plan, to beat him you have to give in to him in a way.
Beating him practically requires the situation with N, Noah, M and Mio to happen. And Z went out of his way to try and stop that.
Literally if Annhilation Events hadn't been a thing his plan had been PERFECT.
It's why you needed, not just Ouroboros, but for all of them to fall in love with eachother. They needed to love eachother enough to have a strong interlink... And to love eachother enough to let go when the time came. And that's hard, not even our Ouroboros could really do that in the end. But by that point, it didn't matter.
@@adamrhodes9533 well, not that perfect, considering he did lose eventually lol.
@@Cman04092 he lost in part because of the annihilation events like they said
I think it's worth noting that Noah's memories are probably a bit more than "in the back of his mind" - we see with Miyabi that the off-seeing melodies can bring back people's memories assuming they had strong emotions tied to them. With Crys it seems reasonable to assume the reason he was disappointed with the cycle was because whenever he becomes an off-seer he recalls the original form of homecoming. So it seems likely to me that Noah's memories were "sent on" to his original self a lot more concretely. It's not something in the background, but more like he was woken up.
I do think the same
he basically gets about 1000 years of his past incarnation's memories beamed directly to his brain but being a -Co... I mean Fei he survives who had it much worst.... having 10000 years of his reincarnations lives beamed directly to his brain
The ending broke me. I just lost my cat (who was my best friend) 3 weeks ago. Had to have him put down. This game helped prop me up with Noah and Mio being off-seers. I felt like I was an off-seer for my Rascal Buddy. But when they start running towards each other at the end, gaining no ground... I couldn't hold any long. I miss my friend, but this game helped me to understand that I can't stay in the endless now; that I have more love to give and more lives to enrich.
Mio being Nia's and Rex's daughter is quite insane actually. Kind of explains the power of the punch against the Moebius after the Ethel and Cammuravi Scene in Chapter 4.
Honestly this is a video i needed. Thanks Luxin
When they say that mio is the daughter of nia and rex, just asking?
@@checob224 Its heavenly implied in the aftergame.
@@checob224 we know nia and rex had a child based on a group photo. Nia behavior towards mio is more loving and biased. Mio looks very similar to nia. Its not flat out said but there is alot of nods and implied moments
That has to suck so bad. Meeting a reincarnated version of your kid.
It makes so much sense
EPILOGUE DLC WITH LANZ AND TAION GETTING THEIR HIGH FIVE IM BEGGING YOU MONOLITH SOFT
AND SHIRTLESS TAION! GIVE US WHAT WE NEED
WE GOT ROBBED IN THE ISURD QUEST, ROBBED
@@stricknit WE GOT IT
"We'll throw Kyrie in there. 'Cause Kyrie is sort of the 'Joran' for the Agnus trio."
* sad Miyabi noises *
I love the way Luxin says “simply invent inter-dimensional travel”
Considering how Shulk created a weapon that can replicate the power of a weapon that can change reality to a much smaller degree and yet it still has enough power to drag an intangible being into the material world yeah dimensions travel should be easy.
I mean they made Origin, a device capable of restoreing their worlds exactly as they were. Creating interdimensional travel is not that much of an impossibility in comparison.
@@shinysamurott613 yeah, travel shluld be cake consider origin was so amazing.
It's literally like a god in machine form. It stores memories and souls, and also can recreate not just 1, but 2 universes. It then can add back all the souls into new bodies that match their originals to start shit rolling again. Plus, doing all this while surviving through the complete destruction of 2 whole universes. If they can't figure out simple travel after making the God Machine 5000, then they're just slacking off lol.
shulk practiacly invneted the hilbert effect in a day. so yeah.
@@JoseSanchez-fk9dg Damn, Tora has competition. Hell, I could just imagine Shulk and Tora trading notes on all kinds of engineering feats.
Thank you so much for making this video Luxin, it helped to fill in a lot of gaps that I had missed on my playthough.
I'm a lot more hopful for the future now.
You hopping boi
Who else cried?
Who didn't???
Tbh I think Chapter 5 destroyed me too much I regrew too resilient. So instead a dumb smile for these loveable characters. Still touched my heart nevertheless.
After spending 3 hours with Z's unskippable cutscenes and oneshots in the last phase, I kinda didn't care at the end :(
We all cried whether truly or on the inside
Honestly just the song gets me. It reminds me of the scene too much.
‘I don’t know if Noah watches Mio sleep’
Dude is part N. Of course he does.
Agreed on most of the points you made Luxin, just want to add something:
1) About making a "gate" between the worlds, in the Japanese version of the game, the Conduit is actually call a Gate. Which leads me to my second point
2) I don't think the world merging is something out of Klaus doing, but rather the disappearance of the Conduit. By being activated by Klaus, it actually split Earth into two inter connected worlds: being xc1 and xc2, and it keep them separated and stable. Without the Gate, the worlds would collide, trying to become one again. It's not an accident, the worlds are actively trying to unify into one whole earth like it once was, so I think they won't go their separate way after passing through each other like the video had speculated. Imo, they will instead try to collapse onto one another again to become one. So Origin is only a method of buying more time.
=> So not only will making a gate between the worlds a vital way for xc3 casts to reunite, it is also the only way to permanently solve the issue of the annihilation events.
With that said, that's my theory for the upcoming DLC / future of the franchise
100% agree. Nia's ch7 lore dump has her compare the nature of the worlds to positive and negative charges, which are attracted to each other.
The two worlds are basically like giant magnets; they will forever try to combine together and no amount of universal resetting via origin is going to stop this, only delay it.
The ending heavily hints at Noah, Mio, and the rest of the two worlds meeting again, so maybe this isn't the end yet. I surely hope it isn't.
Klauss said he witnessed an endless array of empty parallel worlds. If there were only the two and they were created/split then, I'd say yeah it's definitely the conduit that was keeping them apart all this time. If there are an infinite number of worlds, then why these two? and why now after millions of years? Both worlds that Klauss/Zamza arrived on were empty at the time, except the Land of Morytha and Orbital Elevator/Station came with him to Alrest. There's presumably an infinite number of these things, if they are drawn to collide in the absence of a conduit, it should be happening all the time. The only in-universe connection these two worlds are known to have is that they were where Klauss ended up after the Conduit incident. Is that really enough to cause a collision event to occur, possibly tens of millions of years later?
@@WeirdDNA well, if you watched the cutscenes in xc2, the Conduit - Gate unleash a wave of light that engulf earth, wiping out the entire eco system. And before that moment of "experiment" Klauss was observing the artifact in its idle state. I mean, earth took most of the hit because the Conduit was stored there, a top the Beanstalk, so it's safe to speculate that's what happen. And it's the basis of my theory.
But well, this is just my theory of what'd happened :v
I feel like a XC4 should involve the stories of EVERY main cast member from the xenoblade series. It should be a revolving story with each seperate party having the goal of connecting the worlds together. Then, they can end the Klaus saga on a full crossover event and a satisfying ending where the xc3 cast gets to meet again with their previous memories of each other.
So, in other words, a "bridge" is not only a 2 way win solution, it's actually what they had before I the first place. This continues to thrill me.
Damn, the idea that the soldiers of Aionios are all children in the generation that comes _after_ XC1 and 2 really helps explain why the races all look how they do. I was so confused as to why, without exception, all of the Machina in the game have hair and standard human body shapes, and why all the blade-y are also pretty "standard-human" looking. They're all half "regular" human. The merging of societies on the Bionis and Mechonis resulted in a lot of half Homs, half Machina children, and presumably, in Alrest, something occurred that allowed blades to have children with humans, perhaps linked to some sort of effort to make blades able to live independently from drivers. It would also partly explain why some of the High Entia's wings are so tiny, they're from a generation with even more mixed ancestry than the survivors from XC1.
It would have been interesting if Noah got some visible scars along his knuckles from his month of trying to get out of the prison and much like Ashera, they would effectively become scars on his soul. Sometime around him being 18-19, he would experience phantom pains and all of the emotions he felt at the time. This could have been how he finally fully remembers Mio after the recreation of the worlds.
An intersting thing I thought about is how, when compared to the keves squad, the way the agnus squad met is super disjointed. While Eunie, Lanz, Noah, and Joran were all together since childhood in both worlds, Mio, Sena, Taion, and Miyabi all met at other times. So it would be interesting to see where they all were before the worlds merged
i agree i dont think it really explained why taion was there or such a big part of there party.
@@SENATORPAIN1 They met at Gamma, I guess
Most likely Mio was with her family. As Nia would fear something could help and if anything, Rex, Pyra, Mythra and others would be there to protect their kids
Going back and watching Nia’s explanations in 6/7 in the event theater really helped me get a better sense but I was still confused exactly how the Origin reboot works even after that so I am taking in as many interpretations as I can and appreciate them all.
I do hope, that Ashera doesn‘t regain her neck pain.
Luxin just wrote Chapter 8. Thank you for the beautiful retelling of the story and the path towards the future. I really hope DLC caps this off, it HAS too!
I needed this. I was so certain that the end goal was to fuse the worlds together, and the ending left me hollow because they split again. Obviously I misunderstood Nia's explanation of what Origin was meant to do, but she also says "The worlds yearned for each other." This implied to me that no matter what they did to prevent the worlds from colliding, it would happen eventually, and knowing that they made a way for this inevitable catastrophe to work out in their favor. I was fine with a bittersweet ending, I was just upset that I got the bitter when it looked like I was only getting the sweet because of my flawed understanding. I do still think this could have been more clearly explained.
I misunderstood it as well.
I thought it would essentially revive the people from 1 and 2 in the world that originally existed.
Prior to the experiment. I was expecting something more like the ending of FF13 Lightning Returns.
After playing Future Redeemed you're absolutely right. I understood that from Nia as well so I was glad our understanding turned out to be the case
@@amadeussentre8567 It's a fairly reasonable conclusion to come to. Even before Threenoblade was announced people were theorizing whether or not the worlds fused based on just XB2's ending.
I think the real reason N and M had to sacrifice themselves is, while they are born of regret, by defeating N, both literally and philosophically, N was given hope. He took his despair, his regret, his fear, and used it to fuel his hope for a better tomorrow. M was like that after she swapped places with Mio, as well. They are still moebius, they are still based on that regret that Z is a conglomeration of, but by taking that a step further and also emodying the hope of Noah and Mio, they became anathema to Moebius. Their very existence refutes Z's entire existence. So, when they join with Z, that is what kills him.
I was thinking something similar. That by finally rejecting the fear that Z embodies, they were able to corrupt him in a sense and finally take him down.
I know it’s silly adding a spoiler warning on a video that says “Ending explained” but I have to personally thank you for including it anyway. I was watching a video on Sherlock Holmes and UA-cam auto play automatically started this one somehow and didn’t realize what video was playing. So thank you for being considerate in the respect of allowing everyone to experience the end for themselves :)
29:25 Noah does watch Mio sleep. In fact, every parry member has watched every other party member sleep because that's how standing guard works
A really great explanation to the ending and showing that it’s really not as bittersweet as people thought it was.
I do want to say I thought the ending scene where Noah hears a flute playing was implied to be Mio playing. I’m just basing this off the beginning of the melody which sounds a lot like the one he plays for Crys. It sort of just fits more in line with Mio’s final diary entry basically stating she’s forgetting how he looks but promises to not fully forget him, remembering him through the melody he always played.
After I finished the game I was desperate to see them back together, but after a while, I realised that I don't really have to see it because it is absolutely certain, that they will meet again. To quote Klaus, "It is fated to happen, it cannot but happen..."
We have to consider that after all, Xenoblade is still a Japanese series, even if it seems this is often forgotten or ignored by Western fans. It is (or was at least till XC2) still mainly targeted at the Japanese market as seen in the budget calculation by estimated Japanese sales only. And while Takahashi sure takes a lot of inspirations from myths and legends all over the world, for the understanding of the ending, we have to see the Japanese / Far Eastern legends, especially the Legend of the Red Threat of Fate. Those who are bound by it are destined for each other, they will meet through space and time, no matter what lies between them. In this light, the red thread both Mio and Noah have in their hair is more than a fancy accessory but a clear sign of them and the two worlds meeting again and getting a happy ending.
Well, we will likely see it though. Cause the expansion pass art hints at it (as they stated in a japaese only devlog 6) And there are litteraly no major chracters *within 3* that need any sort of backstory arc, as they all unanimuosly want to move forward. not a one. (except riku i suppose but nopon age isnt even clear in any game , so i think he is just what he says for the most part)
@@Paradox1012
Japanese devlog 6? I'll try and find it myself, but could you post a link to it? I'm interested in reading it.
@@justarandomperson3700 There , i put some spaces in there so youtube wont delete my comment. its at the bottom under the expansion image, use a translate tool.
@@Paradox1012
UA-cam deletes links now? That's news to me. Also I don't think your comment went through.
It's fine if it won't work. I'll just have to look for it myself then.
@@justarandomperson3700 yeah sorry I guess it deleted the second comment I tried to post even when Breaking up the link. Its Nintendos JP website in topics
That was a pretty amazing video.
I personally thought the Noah's first and final scenes were in the exact same moment but I didn't understand how right on the nose Origin worked. It literally put the people back as they were at the point of collision none the wiser, wow.
I said it in another video and I will say it here too. Noah and Mio are probably one of the best examples of "soul mates." No matter how many incarnations Noah and Mio went through they always found eachother, and in atleast one case started a family with what little time they had. Which by your summary is going to happen again because Noah and Mio's kid was also a soul in Origin that was just born in Aioneos like the people of the City.
44:27 you are forgetting that I left her in the world tree collecting data when it fell so maybe she didn’t make it 💀
Depends, a space elevator doesn’t always collapse entirely, usually it’s the middle and top portions due to gravity tension launching the top and the tether of the top not supporting the middle leaving the bottom portions still in tact, I forget where Adenine is but if she’s toward the bottom she should be fine
This ending took me a while to really enjoy my first time seeing it because it felt super melancholic but I absolutely love how simplistic the post credits scene is. It is such a well executed vision for how the endless now ending feels like. I also like that it gives closure of everything after the post-credits scene with Mio's flute playing. SO good
Must be sad being Noah after the ending. Trying to explain mio to his friends is basically just like "I have a girlfriend but she’s at a different school"
Yeah I got the sense that the post-game side quests maybe were initially intended to be part of chapter 7 but it was maybe too bloated with hero/ascension quests already and worked as a nice bonus, especially when they are both going on about their friendship with the cast at the ends of their quests when you’ve spent like maybe 1 hour in-game with them at that point
No. Seems very obvious they were always post game.
I instead felt that those were left for the post-game so those characters could give us a surprise when they join the fight in person.
Still wonder why Seeker and Triton final quests were post-game. I mean Triton I kinda get as a nice callback to an earlier cutscene but Seeker’s is actually important for colony relations cause without it the City and Agnus Castle are in hostile status when you beat the game the first time
I just need to be real: I lost track of EVERYTHING in the ending, when I saw The Picture™.
I mean that's fair.
12:27 The only thing I'm confused by is where Triton is. But my current headcanon is that he's wondering if the worlds separating will affect the Gyaark population
I hope he didn't die with Z
@@totalradlad He’s Mobius. He did. But like everyone else he’ll be reset
So outside of Z, and probably X and Y, all the mobius were once human. i feel like Triton also had to do what N and M did and so he also has to sacrifice himself. However he still exists in the previous world because his data is stored in Origin. I assume in The Xenoblade 1 world because the soul hacker class has a keves icon in the class selection screen.
@@SJrad that, and you can tell which world the character came from by which eye their iris is in- aka which eye glimmers in a chain attack
triton's right eye glimmers during chain attacks, same as noah's, eunie's, and lanz's, everyone else in keves's- meaning triton is from the xenoblade 1 world
i feel like Mobius people will not be granted the "privilege" of remembering aionios if that is indeed a plot point in the DLC. Kind of likean inverse punisment to "rembering" everything within aionios.
I know it's almost a meme at this point but all the Moebius, Origin and N and M emotional power type stuff really is so much like Xenogears. I feel like I understood the ending and it hit harder thanks to playing Xenogears while waiting for XC3.
Thank you for doing this video, it makes the context of the ending much clearer for me and now i have a much more optimistic outlook on it. I didn't even realise how confused I was about the ending until I watched this.
Fantastic video, Luxin! It's so good to have you back, man! I've been damn near as excited to hear your thoughts on the game as I was to play it myself! They really did a hell of a job with this one, and I'm so excited to see what comes with all the DLC. I finally beat the game at 180 hours, and now I have like 10 ascension quests and who knows how many other side quests left.
You hit it on the head once again my dude, always love watching you Xeno content. This vid really helped clarify and even recontextualize a lot of things. Well done as always!
“If you don’t think the ending of XC3 is a happy ending you don’t understand the ending”
No, it’s still sad that the party is separated lmao. I also hope that one of the dlc is based after the events of the main game and they are reunited.
Great video! Sums up most of my thoughts on the ending as well.
One thing though is I do think this maybe downplays how much they might remember a bit, especially since we know that Miyabi got her 100% of he past life memories back that she had the previous cycle.
I think even if most people are foggy on the details, their will be a way for them to remember in more exact details via flute playing and weird Origin shenanigans like Miyabi did.
I just assumed Miyabi never died. She’s the only example of someone remembering that much after she would have been reborn
@@sato-lr2ln this is something that maybe was the case
Miyabi never died. If you look at the affinity chart you'll see that she's still in her 9th term, which shouldn't be possible considering Y's device is supposed to age people to a state right before homecoming. I'm guessing that Y kept Miyabi alive to experiment with the effect her melodies have on soldiers, as demonstrated in the fight against her.
(In case you're wondering why Mwamba called out Noah's name just before passing out, it's most likely just some memories of his past life coming back to him temporarily, in response to Noah's offseeing melody.)
@@SoirirSoirir but cammuravi and ethel died and remember eachother so clearly the memories are just tied to their souls. Miyabi definitely died and was just brought back.
@@RedTheWeeb If you do Cammuravi's hero quests it's clear that they don't remember each other, but rather they get glimpses of memories from their past lives, like how Cammaravi could remember the name Silvercoat Ethel, but not its significance. Also if Miyabi died there's no way she should be a 9th termer, since Y's machine can only age people to their 10th term.
Thank you so much for making this video ^_^
I know so many people that have such bizarre takes/opinions/understandings of the ending, a deep dive like this prom a prominent xeno youtuber is exactly what was needed
I caught most of it on my first run, and knew what to expect of the ending in that regard / understood what it was going for, but I will absolutely admit that rewatching Nia's origin explanation (and seeing her postgame scenes after the ending) really helped clarify it further
Thanks again for making this, can't wait to see more XC3 content from you in the future!
(Also i just realized that by creating Origin, Tora basically did what Klaus couldn't and im losing my mind over it)
Honestly I had a crack theory going, after Nia’s line about Tora, that Poppi would somehow have volunteered to power Origin or something, because saving the memories of the world is definitely something a precious girl like her would be willing to do
Have been looking forward to this video for so long now
Thank you for making so good videos explaining my favourite series of all time
While I understand why the postgame quests can only be accessed in the postgame, I really feel like it would have made a little more sense if Our Welsh Lady of the Bannana's quest had been in the main game.
Can I just say I love how her dress is a mixture of her jumpsuit and Mythra's Dress?
10:38 That's actually pretty similar to the Lifehold in Xenoblade X isn't it?
Taion and Sena are probably definitely Princess Mio's retainers/Best friends.
31:40 Hopefully Ashera, who's definitely Dunban's Daughter, won't have to deal with the whole thing where she always remembers getting her head cut off. Because that, and the physical scar from that, is a thing that apparently persists throughout her lives and get's really bad as she approaches Homecoming.
Since Origin will reboot the worlds to a time before anything in Aionios happened, Ashera won't have the scar or the pain from it. Hopefully no memories either, but if the dreams of the past and fragments of memories some people experienced in Aionios are any indication, she might still remember something.
45:00 I truly hope that we'll get to see it in the DLC. Not really a fan of stories where a happy ending is implied. I NEED to see it happen with my own eyes.
I don't think it would happen in a flashback in a future game because Takahashi stated that Xenoblade Chronicles 3 was the end of the Klaus saga, so if that's true, any future Xenoblade title shouldn't be connected to 1, 2, or 3.
But, hey, this is the same guy who told us that 2 wouldn't have any direct connection to 1. So we should take his words with a grain of salt lol
Just because its the end of a saga doesnt mean it will be the end of this story.
2 examples.
Kingdom Hearts - KH3 ended the dark Seeker sage, but the next game was the Dark Seekers backstory, but gives context for the next saga, presumably called thenlost masters saga, but the name and theme is unconfirmed at this point, just some hints and plot threads that are still open.
And my favorite games, The trails series. The 1st arc bleeds into the 2nd and 3rd, and the 2nd and 3rd happen simotaniously at first, then kinda collide to continue on together at some point. The 3rd arc ends that saga, but all 3 first arcs bleed into the 4th arc and second saga.
Not saying Xeno should connect back again, but its possible to start a new saga without making the old one irrelevant.
That being said, i do hope the dlc gives us more after the ending, over a founders prequel or mobieus prequel, or Z prequel, or any other prequel tbh.
@@Cman04092 Yeah I think future games will probably still take place in the same universe, but may have little or no connection to prior characters or stories. However Klaus also says at the end of XC2 that there are infinite worlds side by side, so it's also possible XC4 could take place in another parallel world. Could be the world XCX takes place in, maybe they'll return to Mira or find a way to connect it to the worlds of 1 and 2 as well.
@@joeydestructo yeah, the possibilities are endless tbh, which is part of the fun. I just hope we get a little more to go off as far as the direction the future is headed. I mean, Takahashi even said they'd give us hints about the future and the next saga, so I hope he didn't lie or change his mind.
Imo they should just have this world and story continue. Xenoblade is very lucky to have the freedom to create new and original stories while also connecting them to what came before, not having to sever all ties to previous title (like final fantasy seems to do). I want to see a world where the xc3 gang connect the universes and build a bright future in place of our previous heroes from xc1 and xc2!
Technically, 2 didn't have any "direct" connection... except for a voiceline that unless you understand the connotations of it... wouldn't mean a whole lot. Most of what Klaus says is also vague, but he drops enough information, that if you ever played 1, you could connect the dots.
in the Xenoblade 3 artbook, there's a design for child Mio that was not used in game.
FINALY A LUXIN VIDEO. I've been very exited for the XC3 luxin content to start rolling out.
You helped clear a few things up for me and also helped me to notice things I never noticed before. Thank you for this video :)
Thank you Luxin for explaining it, i have waited for weeks.
Man you made me cry at that theory about Noah interlinking to see Mio again. I have high hopes for the final DLC scenario, it could be such a banger to have both worlds meet again.
Great video, touches on mostly facts stated throughout the game, and your head cannon actually makes sense.
That was incredibly useful, with the DLC out now this has provided a great refresher and lots of stuff i missed! Looks like you were spot on
I've been waiting for this lets goooo!
I like how you treat Melia and Nia on Zoom like elderly queens discussing pre-boomer stuff.
Waiting for your analysis for years. God, it's all worth it. There are still millions of questions I have. Looking forward to your future videos.
Thanks for this video! I was a bit confused and heartbroken at the ending. This really helped clear things up and confirm some things that I thought might true.
Isn‘t the Joran of the Agnes trio more Miyabi? I mean, she is the friend who was lost on Mio‘s side
Honestly Hackt is the mwamba for the agnus trio rather than Joran
My view was that "time" didn't stop really, but that Origin was used successfully, but recreated the 2 worlds overlapping in the way they did according to Z's desire
Great work with this video. I only wish it was out sooner since it would have saved me a lot of grief when trying to explain the ending to the many streamers that just didn’t seem to get the ending and thus were not nearly as emotionally invested in it as they should have been.
Also, I think Miyabi better fits as the Agnian equivalent to Joran, being a healer class that struggles with actual combat and is more suited to the arts, as well has having a tragic death that got them mixed up with Moebius.
This video was wonderful. Thank you so much for putting this all together! ❤
Firstly amazing video, you clear up and explain a ton of important points for the ending.
I will say I do still take issue with how the city/Nopon traders etc are dealt with and how the ending impacts the community aspect of the game.
So the lattermost point could def be amazing if your theory that people will remember holds weight, if everyone from Aonios begins to remember, all the community building, a massive part of XC3's side-quests and story will hold more weight again, even if they aren't in the same situation.
People like Kite and Juniper will remember each-other and the experiences the party led them through and will create relationships again, it'd give everything a reason again while still erasing "technically" what happened.
Now the city stuff bothers me on a few levels,
1. the weight behind the fact that they are essentially committing genocide on tons of generations of people isn't really made a big or really any deal out of, in fact the ending handwaves this big decision away.
While it's correct to assume they can be reborn 1000's of years down the line, this'd be almost impossible practically, for one we're veering very closely into pre-determinalism, a concept XC1's entire plot was against, it'd mean every generation of people for 1000's of years, is pre-dermined for their couples and furthermore will remember each-other, this doesn't even take into consideration the wildly different circumstances this new world would have outside of Aonios, all it takes is one disease, one misplacement or accident etc to throw 100's of generations off course.
2nd. I think we can safely assume no one but the Queens and Party had any say in this or assumed it'd do this, throughout the game there are many people talking about their plans post Moebius, asking the party to continue and win so they can hold celebrations or next years city homecoming, none of this would make sense if these people knew they were walking towards oblivion.
I don't blame the party for this course of action, Aonios was a doomed world, but this whole point, the genocide of 1000's of generations of people on the vague, tiny chance they might be reincarnated is given the weight of a wet fart and that's not something the game should've treated so likely and in fact is possibly an amazing missed opportunity for another faction of "villains", opposing the party perhaps one wishing to control rather then outright destroy Moebius.
I think overall the ending has the possibility to be very special, the best in Xenoblade history, but a lot of this rides on there being a good epilogue to me, which I think given the games themes, the overt hints and even the three swords for the dlc hints at heavily.
It's also the perfect place for a more fanservice or crossover style dlc, with Aonios and the new cast fully realized, they can now delve deep into 1 and 2 as well to give people the crossover that some people were(imo unjustly) looking for.
The games Kind of set up the crossover conclusion reallly, it would have been fine if it was far past the times of Xenoblade 1 and 2, but here we are with further eluding and blue balling, so i feel as if it was always intended to happen one way or another since after the release of Xenoblade 1.
Also, feel like its not hard determinism. i think origin as a database will insert them into the world at diffrent points, maybe a major theme of another xenogame will be maintenance on origin across generations, cause now the entire world is essentaliy integrated with the Matrix. so they gotta accept that and move foward even if it causes difficulty.
What timing!!! I beat the game earlier today and i swear, I have not cried like THAT in a while
Right in time for dinner man! Been looking forward to this for quite a while now.
You're probably already working on a lot upcoming content at the moment but I'd definitely suggest looking into how Moebius could be considered an allegory for depression while Ouroboros represents overcoming that depression and moving forward. I feel like there's a lot of context clues that definitely prove a connection.
I feel like after Origin successfully worked, the Xenoblade 1 planet would end up in the main universe, maybe orbiting around Earth, rather than going back to the other dimension. My interpretation is that the reason the worlds were colliding in the first place is because without the conduit's power, the Xenoblade 1 world couldn't be supported anymore, which is something Origin definitely couldn't undo. This wouldn't be a big difference, but if we get an epilogue, I'm expecting to see the two planets in the same sky, like what is shown in that one ending scene.
I was hoping you'd make a video on this, cuz there are so many different interpretations from people with regards to the ending here, and it's kinda frustrating considering how important it is to the overall lore & story & future of the series.
a new long luxin lore video, we are EATING GOOD!! i adore your vids bro keep it up
Wow, this helped explain a lot. Thanks Luxin.
This makes the ending so much better than it already was, thank you
When you were talking about Ethel and the ending cutscene, I just wanted to point out that they did leave my boy Triton out from what I've seen. Not like that really changes the fact that making different cutscenes depending on who you have unlocked would still be a ridiculous ask, I just thought it was interesting.
Which side would Triton be on? he was moebius, maybe he just disintegrated with Z
He is Moebius, so he's probably gone as result.
Triton likely gave up his existence when N and M did to bring a end to Z and the Endless Now. However he may have had a chance to be reborn on one of the worlds during the ending or eventually some time after it.
A thought direct to our favorit pirate after sponge bob's one. He lived a great life.
Oh, i didn't think about that, that he might disapear with Z. This kinda makes sense.
Also, if he were there, I think he would be on the Kevis side though, he had the Kevesi circle arts, so he was probably a Kevesi originally. Luckily our favorite cap'n will be in the world again, because like N and M, he was once a regular person, so he was a person before and after origin. I think Z and possibly X and Y are the only mobeius who weren't real people stored in origin or born in aionios.
fantastic video, love this game and series so much. thanks for putting this out
I loved this video and I love your theory. It filled my heart with joy I really hope we get to see this ourselves but even if we don’t I’m happy thinking of this future
This game was a masterpiece, the ending was very emotional. This game reminds me of the beauty there is in the world.
Thanks, this was a great video. Luckily, the only thing i needed clarified was that the world were never meant to combine. I though origin was supose to safely merge them for some reason, so thanks for clarify. Still got a lot out of this video, i especially enjoyed your theories and speculation at the end.
Same. I get that it was stated, but it kinda just ... faded away. Then I got sad :(
@@Kuuribro I think it was Melia who confirm that Origin was never suposed to merge the worlds. I think that was just misunderstand and wishful thinking by fans. It kinda fit in my mind because originally o though aionios was actually the start of the merger and Z paused time, but the worlds were always suposed to be destroyed and then remade.
just to let you know, ive been waiting for a video like this, i kinda understood the ending but i wanting a deeper understanding of it, and youre very good at picking up shit i dont
I can't wait for more of your videos mate!
This video made the ending feel much better, more wholistic, and sweet for me. You’re right, there’s a lot more story that isn’t stated in this game than the others, so in the moment I felt that it was kind of anticlimactic and confusing. That was just because I didn’t understand though, so I really appreciate you going through the details and explaining this😊 it genuinely feels like I can remember the game more happily rather than feeling sad😂
The ending was way more beautiful than I could initially have imagined. I'm literally blown away.
Not that I didn't understand the ending of Xenoblade 3, I just had a bunch of questions of how and why certain things were. This video literally answered everything I was looking for. Thank you so much and amazing video here!
I never played a Xeno type game before, but I randomly bought a switch a couple months ago and bought this game on a whim. I didn't know what to expect, but as I finished the campaign I'd be lying if I said I wasn't an emotional wreck. No other game has affected me as much as this game has.
That said, your explanation of the ending helped me reconcile some of that sadness. This game has to be the best game I've ever played and it most definitely deserved Game of the Year.
Thanks for this video. You did a great job with the narration and explaining things.
38:50 I thought it to be a coincidence but to back this up, while we don’t know the exact length of time XC1 and XC2 took, The fall of Zanza and the fall of Aion line up to a T since it Klaus died with Zanza before Rex could get to Elysium, Alrest probably would have been screwed. Figured it was worth pointing out
I just finished the game today and my goodness I loved it.
Time to actually talk with people about the game.
Great video. Couple things you should look into, theories ive had that are constantly being reinforced.
All the xeno games are part of the same universe, the blade games take place inside the imaginary number domain.
The consules/moebius are a variant of the testaments from saga.
The overarching purpose of the blade series is about solving the gnosis problem.
The oriboros is the will of the collective unconscious. (The symbol of the UMN, which was created from the collected unconscious, is an oriboros)
And finally (as of this moment) the identity of Z is Krelian. Within the final boss song is the theme of Deus from Xenogears, or the main theme during the intro scene. So Z already has a connection to gears. The character he looks the most like is none other than Krelian.
I'd love to go into great detail about why i believe these theories, but that'd take up the size of a small novel. So ill just leave these as little teasers for possible lore.
Thanks for clearing all that up. Top work mate.
Nia and Melia having Zoom calls across dimensions is so funny and cool in a way.
Bionis and Alrest internet is busted man
It's so good that you can talk with people from different planets lol(actually it's not dimensions, it's implied that they were planets from the same universe that eventually would collide, or i got it wrong)
I didn't wonder why N and M had to sacrifice themselves, I wonder why it had to look like a background from the first season of Pokémon. That scene hurty eyes
Beautifully done Luxin!
This is just all speculation lol
good video that can help explain stuff. A lot of theorycrafting and speculation but that's just how it is with this game. Def more analyzing needed than previous entries to fully understand the concepts.
I just had to pause and comment when I saw this part again but man how great are Eunie’s facial expressions when she’s talking to Taion at the end? If you want a great example of why the games went to this art style, point to that.
I was in depression after finishing the game.... and thanks to you and this explaination i feel much better now. thank you.
Weirdo
in the final pre credits cutscene, its implied that even the ink and paper of taions recipe book would disappear from eunie when the worlds separated if it was made of materials from the xenoblade 2 world, so noah still having mios flute once the worlds have separated is interesting, although maybe it would've disappeared once they separated further
The best explanation you can find on the internet for the ending of XB3 is right here. You've done God's work Luxin, thanks so much. Everything is so clear now. Now we'll wait for the hopefully 'promising' DLC in 2023/2024 to end this story once and for all with a sweet ending.