How To Add Stud Wall Cabinet Blocking For Kitchen Cabinet Installs

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  • @jeffmeyers7562
    @jeffmeyers7562 6 років тому +8

    Great video thanks for taking the time I'm gutting a kitchen down to the studs and wanted to install blocking for the cabinets the video was very clear on what to do good job

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  6 років тому

      jeff meyers Thanks I am glad to hear you enjoyed the video. It's always best to have the wall gutted just like you are doing , it should work out really good for you.

  • @1970Mrscott
    @1970Mrscott Місяць тому +1

    This is the only video that explains where to place blocking, so thank you

  • @albertmartinez8911
    @albertmartinez8911 3 роки тому +4

    I don’t comment on videos but you are a lifesaver for taking the time to make this video. I’ve framed other rooms but hesitant about kitchen. I now feel very comfortable demoing and re-framing my kitchen.

  • @Roy-ij1wq
    @Roy-ij1wq 10 місяців тому +4

    Measure between the studs at the sole plate to get the lenght of a block. This is becausd kiln dried lumber has about a 20% moisture content and is prone to warping in the middle of a stud as it dries. Also, the distance between studs may vary and/or the framing may be a little off. Measuring from the bottom will pull the wall together and straighten it. Also, you didn't mention this in your video but it appears you held your blocking about 1/8" in from the edge. This helps to keep your drywall flat.

  • @mpxz999
    @mpxz999 3 роки тому +1

    Crazy helpful!
    I feel silly now, cuz I had never imagined how to add the cabinet blocking between studs with a pipe between. Having that 1x piece screw in like it did, to the piece behind it - you just made my night so much better! I can finally finish my work with confidence!
    Thank you!

  • @badgn2002
    @badgn2002 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for covering these building basics and explaining things such as fire blocking

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  3 роки тому

      My pleasure Raymond, glad you liked it!

  • @julianatibbet1037
    @julianatibbet1037 3 роки тому

    Thank you so much crystal clear about the carpenter wanting blocks for cabinets

  • @rlwieneke-cf3xq
    @rlwieneke-cf3xq 6 років тому +3

    I put mine in with a corner bracket on each end. Overkill but super sturdy.

  • @Frrrrrunkus
    @Frrrrrunkus 6 років тому +3

    Extremely helpful! Thanks.

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  6 років тому

      Glad to help out thanks for stopping by to see our video

  • @sams2698
    @sams2698 2 роки тому

    You are the best for this sir!! Thank you!!!

  • @pRaider84
    @pRaider84 3 роки тому +1

    This video is amazing! Thank you!

  • @joey9068
    @joey9068 7 місяців тому

    great video. thanks

  • @tomhuggard1510
    @tomhuggard1510 Рік тому +1

    Plywood is effective but this is more cost effective. 👍

  • @Eger118877
    @Eger118877 2 роки тому

    Great video! With my luck I'd end up putting a screw through that drain. LoL

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  2 роки тому +1

      This is exactly why in situations like this when you have the walls down and you know where everything is I mark on the drywall where the pipes are you can either draw a pencil lines or put some blue tape so that you know to avoid the area don't think that you're going to remember where the pipe is though that's what I have run into in the past I put the drywall up and forget where the pipe was your only clue is where it pops out of the drywall

  • @thedogman2576
    @thedogman2576 Рік тому

    Blocking for chair and crown molding too.

  • @Jope1271
    @Jope1271 5 років тому +1

    Beautiful... thanks, sir!

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  5 років тому

      Joel I'm glad you liked it thanks for stopping by and feeling our video.

  • @daileisu
    @daileisu 3 роки тому

    Great instruction video. I'm about to relocate my kitchen to the backroom and this is so helpful for me to prepare the wall. Question: You mentioned 34" of the base cabinet height, where exactly the block goes? The middle or top of the block sits at 34"? Thanks in advance.

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  3 роки тому +1

      We usually try to use a 2 by 6 to give us the maximum margin and I make the middle of it be right at the 34 inches just in case something's off but typically if you look at the back of a cabinet you have a brace that goes side to side that you can screw through to get into the wall and that brace starts at the top of the cabinet and goes down about two to three inches down to about 41 inches off the floor . So apply your cabinet block appropriately and give yourself margin above and below that 34 inch height.

    • @daileisu
      @daileisu 3 роки тому

      @@jeffostroff awesome. Thanks for the advice. I got a dimension layout from our cabinet vendor and it shows 34 1/2" of the base cabinet and heights of other wall ones.

  • @Okie-Tom
    @Okie-Tom 2 роки тому

    Good info! One thing; instead of toe nailing the adjoining blocking where you can’t get three nails in the end, would it be better to put a little block behind the blocking board nail or screw it to the side of the stud and then nail or screw the blocking to that board? Looks to me like that would make it a much stronger attachment point for the cabinets, especially the upper cabinets? Thanks for the video. Tom

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  2 роки тому

      They don't want screws here, usually nails, but some inspectors might allow it since it is not structure. But stud walls they want nails

  • @toldt
    @toldt 4 роки тому +3

    That's a nail plate (Simpson, MiTek, etc). It's full of holes, for nails. You're supposed to use a protection plate, they're solid and generally thicker.

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  4 роки тому

      Yes! Good call!

    • @frederf3227
      @frederf3227 2 роки тому

      @@jeffostroff Is it legal to put the nail plate on the back of the block like you showed or does it have to go on the front?

    • @elemeno0pee
      @elemeno0pee Рік тому

      ​@@frederf3227 if you put it on the front, you'll block yourself from screwing into the wood. It goes on the back so screws can drive into the wood but not all the way through.

  • @christopherhuber2517
    @christopherhuber2517 Рік тому

    Nice

  • @cheesecheese8240
    @cheesecheese8240 2 роки тому +1

    CAN YOU ADD BLOCKING TO AN EXTERIOR WALL THAT WILL HAVE INSULATION?

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  2 роки тому

      Yes you can put blocking there as well

  • @jupiterjac6438
    @jupiterjac6438 Рік тому +1

    Can someone lmk if you can mount melamine cabinets on plywood? I’m installing a section of uppers this weekend and the wall has sheetrock AND plywood. So I’m a bit worried on the layers I need to go through to hit the stud, my backing is 3/4 the sheetrock 5/8 and the plywood 1/2 I think. Anyone have any suggestions? I usually use 3 inch screws when I install uppers to attach them to the stud. Please any help or ideas will definatly be appreciated!! TIA

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  Рік тому

      Yes you can install them on wood studs, metal studs, or brick walls, just like wood cabinets. Use the special flat head cabinet screws

  • @mattreeves7276
    @mattreeves7276 6 років тому

    If you can't get the other side of the studs for edge nailing (like if you only access to one stud bay), would you recommend toe nailing the blocking on both sides? If so, would you toe nail on the top and bottom for both sides? That would get you 2 fasteners per side, not quite the 3 you recommended per side with edge nailing.

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  6 років тому

      Matt, yes I toenail in from the top of the block piece down at an angle into the stud. Then I put the second toenail in from the underside of the cabinet block at an upward angle into the stud. With this scenario you can only get away with only 2 screws. If you can get to the back side of your stud wall, like we can here in the bathroom, you can fire in a 3rd nail as long as there will be no protrusions that would cause the drywall to bump out when you go to hang it.

  • @Mikey-zf4kg
    @Mikey-zf4kg 4 роки тому +1

    Would blocking be strong enough to hold floating shelves?

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  4 роки тому +1

      Yes, the blocking is structure, it is strong enough to hold cabinets and shelves.

  • @alexpagano6626
    @alexpagano6626 3 роки тому +1

    I did this fore my tv mount so all 4 lags were strong because I did not want the 65 inch tv to fall

  • @parmoni
    @parmoni 5 років тому +1

    if new construction, do i have the framers add it in, or wait until after plumbers put their piping in so that the blocks aren’t interfering with their pipes???

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  5 років тому

      Chris, I prefer to do it after the pipes, or you can check with the plumber and see if where they want to run pipes, and you can avoid each other.

    • @Raptor200637
      @Raptor200637 4 роки тому +6

      Don't worry the plumber'll cut all your blocks off to install his pipes.

  • @jackier7737
    @jackier7737 2 роки тому

    Wouldn't it be stronger to screw into the studs rather than a backer board attached by toe nailing?

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  2 роки тому

      Their backboards are as thick as studs they can handle the weight and there's a nail on the top and the bottom of the backboard. Which is more than enough to handle the weight that it would be expecting to carry. But we always shoot for a stud there are many times when you know you can't get to a studWhich is where the blocks come in handy for you.

  • @biracialbabes
    @biracialbabes 3 роки тому +1

    @Jeffostroff what size nails would I use on a 2×4 stud into a 1×4 across. Making a built in using the stud as side wall

  • @marphtwo
    @marphtwo 5 років тому

    N00b here....what kind of driver are you using for those screws? I need me one of those!

  • @Whosurdaddy71
    @Whosurdaddy71 4 місяці тому

    He said 5” plumbing pipe 😂

  • @sandywjo5
    @sandywjo5 6 років тому

    We need to put in a wood backing like this for a new pedestal sink, but because of where the water lines are behind the wall, we only have enough depth to fit wood that is about 3/4 inch thick between the studs. The sink itself will be supported by the leg of pedestal, but still want the top mounted with wood backing. Would the 3/4 inch thick wood be enough thickness for support?

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  6 років тому

      sandywjo5 That will work fine for you. What I recommend you do since you only have 3/4 of an inch to work with is to get maybe a 3/4 inch by 8" piece of wood block or 3/4 inch by 6" , just as long as it is something bigger than a 4" tall board. You can see how I used 6" tall boards. Just make sure you put in plenty of nails into the end of the board since it is taller. So if you use a 6" tall board shoot 4 or 5 nails into either end of it.

    • @sandywjo5
      @sandywjo5 6 років тому +1

      Thank you for such a quick response sir!! I suppose I am facing another dilemma, so this sink is going on a wall that is only 36 inches wide, there is ONE stud near the center of the wall, then on the left another stud about 16 inches away. But on the right hand side, the stud is all the way at the end of the wall, so How do you nail these wood planks in between the studs when you cant get behind them? I will also face this problem when I nail the two wood planks on both sides of the center stud of the wall, I will be able to nail the first from the back, but the second block install will be harder cause the first block i installed will be attached where I would need to screw in the second one. I am really stumped.

    • @sandywjo5
      @sandywjo5 6 років тому

      Woops, I just continued on further and see you do something called toenailing them in. if that is the only option for me then the wall will have to be opened even further to accomodate a drill coming in at an angles. I was hoping to avoid that, but I suppose it is what it is. lol

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  6 років тому

      Yup, toe nailing indeed! Whenever you have 2 blocks going in, one on each side of a stud, then one of them has to be toe nailed, and I prefer to do it from the top or the bottom of the wood piece into the stud at 45 degrees, in ordered to avoid any bumps on the front that could cause the drywall to bump out. If you still want to to secure more screws, then toe nail it from the back of the wood piece also, but make sure the nail does not shoot through the front of the stud wall.

    • @sandywjo5
      @sandywjo5 6 років тому

      I just remeasured (as I always do) and we can fit 1 inch depth wood block instead of only 3/4 like I originally thought. For a 1 inch depth do I still need to do atleast a 6 inch board in height, or would 4 be ok?

  • @iliketakingshowers
    @iliketakingshowers Рік тому

    It's 4 inch Jeff

  • @7381366
    @7381366 4 роки тому +1

    Size nail ?

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  4 роки тому

      I used Passlode 30 degree 3 1/4" long 12 D nails. My nailer is a 30 degree nailer, not the 21 degree like some others.

    • @7381366
      @7381366 4 роки тому

      What’s the difference from 30 and 21 ? What are the pros and cons ?

  • @austinroberson8
    @austinroberson8 Рік тому

    The amount of scrap wood in a build is way more than is needed for blocking. I also suggest you do the same to the bathroom where the toilet paper dispenser, towel racks, and hand towels will go. 9 times out of ten the builder is just gonna haul the wood to the dump so why not put it to good use. That drives me CRAZY.

  • @VRtechman
    @VRtechman 3 роки тому +1

    Edit: He mentions using plates to block nails.
    I thought he would've put a piece of metal facing that waste line to protect that.

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  3 роки тому

      The plumber will add whatever they think is necessary.

  • @raywright2401
    @raywright2401 Рік тому

    that's great until you are adding cab box's to an opposite or non designed wall.

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  Рік тому

      There were cabinets on the opposite wall it worked out great

  • @MAGAMAN
    @MAGAMAN 2 роки тому

    "You are guaranteed to hit wood"
    Or maybe that giant drain pipe right there. When installing your drywall, mark the studs so you know where they are.

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  2 роки тому

      The true professional drywall installers that do this for a living don't bother wasting time marking studs, because they know what they're doing. Once they screw that first sheet onto the stud they know the line of the screws and where they are located. Then the next sheet they just go straight up the lines. Also, the plumbing is supposed to be far enough back that using a one-inch or one and 1/4 inch drywall screw is not going to Pierce any pipes. The same goes with electrical Romex cables, they should all be in the center of the stud. But yes sometimes I will mark on the drywall where the pipes are to make sure I don't go near them

  • @daleon96
    @daleon96 5 років тому +3

    damn that gun is slow...

    • @toldt
      @toldt 4 роки тому +1

      Has to be the worst nail gun I've ever seen. I bet a good framing carpenter could hammer a nail by hand faster.

    • @TrumpsEarBandage
      @TrumpsEarBandage 3 роки тому

      Cordless

  • @SovietUnion848
    @SovietUnion848 5 років тому +1

    Stops at 00:21 won't play past that point.

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  5 років тому

      Remy, it works fine for me. Maybe try rebooting your PC or clearing cache, maybe your browser got into a weird state. Which version of browser and what platform are you on, PC, MAc, mobile?

    • @Skyrenx
      @Skyrenx 5 років тому

      Same happens to me at 21 seconds

  • @BrenQ99
    @BrenQ99 5 років тому +1

    Very helpful. Thanks for this!

  • @jupiterjac6438
    @jupiterjac6438 Рік тому

    Can someone lmk if you can mount melamine cabinets on plywood? I’m installing a section of uppers this weekend and the wall has sheetrock AND plywood. So I’m a bit worried on the layers I need to go through to hit the stud, my backing is 3/4 the sheetrock 5/8 and the plywood 1/2 I think. Anyone have any suggestions? I usually use 3 inch screws when I install uppers to attach them to the stud. Please any help or ideas will definatly be appreciated!! TIA

    • @tomhuggard1510
      @tomhuggard1510 Рік тому

      As long as your plywood is screwed into the studs, you’re good to go 👍

    • @tomhuggard1510
      @tomhuggard1510 Рік тому

      Sorry I just realized this was 4 months ago lol