Stalker 2 Isn't Looking too Good...
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2023
- So with Gamescom starting earlier this week we got a look at Stalker and suffice to say it isn't looking so good...I really hope my concerns all turn out to be unwarranted but at the moment things are looking a bit bleak.
"What mod is that level from?" Stalker Anomaly New Levels Addon: www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-an...
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#stalker2 #stalkeranomaly #stalker - Ігри
I don’t know the only thing worrying me is that maybe it have a more linear story and not a “ sandbox” style of game, but until it not come out I will never know
I would imagine it would be similar to the originals in that there will be a more story focused game with freeplay elements.
You have to remember Anomaly is not what vanilla stalker was.
@@BrokenCircle1 I know in fact I just play vanilla game, and you can even forget about main quests and focus on upgrade your character or explore and make money, do sides quest and have a little bit of role playing. Example on clear sky I pass a lot
Of time trying to upgrade my weaponry cause vanilla aim of guns without upgrades is ridicolous ahahah you aim at head and shoot against you ahahah
@@BiancaPrimavera Ah Clear Sky gun physics lol.
Pretty sure I've missed point blank with buckshot.
Once had someone tell me Stalker has the most realistic bullet physics of any game from its time lol
It will probably be pretty linear ish but modders will definitely make it more sandbox like
Well in FAQ it is Stated that your actions will influence long term and short term effects of the zone, so i doubt it will be linear, but who knows what was changed
The people who played the demo at gc said it was surprising that a 15 min one felt solid and good
While that's good 15 minutes isn't much to go off of.
I mean for example I've played some Stalker mods and they run fine for 15 minutes...after that they're crashing, freezing my whole computer, ect.
Not saying Stalker 2 will be anywhere near that extreme but all I'm saying is 15 minutes isn't much.
@@BrokenCircle1 Thing is as well, 90% of the trailer is what was in the demo.
Is it? Oof.
@@BrokenCircle1 Yeah, my expectations remain unchanged unlike others. You have to consider that this could've been an underpowered PC trying to run it on max graphics, 4K while recording 4K. People who played the demo said that it was fluid and I'll prob only be playing it at 1080p.
I have something else badly. The environment seems to be great but the weapon feeling and IA seems to be bad
I've not played the Stalker Games, but they do look cool. I liked the Metro games which were Stalker -light experiences, so I might check out a few of the Stalker games and give them a playthrough at some point.
If you get the originals play SoC first. They are clunky but well worth it.
If you can get all three then by all means go ahead, but if you can only afford one then I recommend just skipping straight to Call of Pripyat as it has all the intended mechanics and features GSC wanted to have in their games
Yes is like metro, Chernobylite
@@BrokenCircle1to clunky to play nowadays. I played them all for thousands of hours. Now going back you feel like it's an fps about being a building with hands
@@zyourzgrandzmaz SoC isn't bad. CoP is ok to Lcear sky on the other hand...
At 2:42 and a little before when the player drops off of ledges they almost teleport onto the lower surface, thats fucking weird
I didn't even notice that. Thanks for pointing it out.
You do realise that's a video of old Stalker? It's not Stalker 2.
@@nd15music73 never said it was stalker 2, i simply mentioned it it was weird.
no thats kind of just regular gravity
That's just how the gravity works in stalker games.
Story seems interesting at least. For me the biggest worry is the ai quality and I know people make fun of the og games ai but I find it very fun to fight against even if flawed. Anyways I expect a late 2024 or 2025 release date.
The AI in the old games are either the dumbest or smartest AI you'll ever see no in betweens lol.
Thanks for watching.
I mean, after that who NFT debacle.. I'm just going to wait until it launches to see if they're hiding a screwed up mess or not.
Just a shame we have to be worried about something that was once so coveted.
Yeah its sad but like I said with their history with Clear Sky I'm not surprised at this point.
I had even heard most of CoP was stolen from some ancient mod.
@@BrokenCircle1 I'm honestly more upset that it just doesn't surprise me, like, how hard is it to not be shitty, y'know?
The original trailers were at this point, very obviously in engine and only concept trailers, what we are getting now is actual gameplay, yes there is a downgrade because these arent scenes perfectly tailored to look good, but i fail to see how people think the game looks "like is from old gen", aside from the framerate issues which are actually concerning, the game does look pretty damn faithful to the ogs.
I don't see how the original trailers were concept. The ones with cutscenes I can see but the ones that showed gameplay do look way better than what we currently are seeing.
Just my take. Either ways though I appreciate you watching and thanks for speaking your mind.
@@BrokenCircle1 I mean we’re not 100% sure, but devs always like to use tons of cgi in early trailers, so it makes sense to me, but if it were up to me, I’d hope they still give it more time in the oven, given the delays
@@prodELOKX Using CGI is one thing but these clearly all looked like they featured actual gameplay in them.
the gameplay does look last gen and it looks soulless and nothing like stalker. it looks shittier than the originals
@lilpullout I wouldn't go that far but yes I do think it looks dated.
By the way, the developers all left Ukraine, they are working from Poland.
No? They are in Czech Republic, not Poland
@@perkele7192my bad, so they are even further from the war than I thought.
The studio moved to Malta years ago & it'a always worrying when you hear excuse after excuse & delay after delay...
Loved the vid! and hope the studio isisnt falling apart or anything like that, I wish them great success
Thanks for the support. And yes I hope they do well also.
“Nasa computer”😂😂😂
They need to polish more like see the weapon smoke , anomaly animations and graphics upgrade
Yeah the anomalies did look a dated
Yeah, you're right. I'm glad it exists, but I'm not particularly excited about it. I mean, they had a Herculean task before them to begin with even prior to the war. The expectations on this game have been set impossibly high with the amazing mods the trilogy have got for nearly two decades. I feel like people hear "STALKER 2" in their minds and build up fantasies about its possible potential. But this ain't 2007 anymore, and the gaming landscape has changed significantly.
For me, I find myself more excited when a new Anomaly mod is announced than for STALKER 2.
mic is sounding crisp
I thought it sounded different but worse. Not sure what happened, I did tweak some settings though. Been super busy and admittedly had to rush this one out a bit.
i have a feeling that history is gonna repeat itself cause also the first stalker was notorious for its bugs and very bad running release version that got patched later on ... well sorta, the wonky ai system was still a thing even after that and funny glitches or unexpected behaviours of the physics engine persist to this day, yet is also somewhat also what makes stalker... well stalker. but i gotta say I expect better in 2023, even though I also have sympathy for the devs regarding the current situation. I honestly wouldnt mind if they delay and take their time and go for a 2025 or 2026 release frame but I fear the way the business works is they want to sell (just like cybeprunk did) cause investors expect ROI not in 2 years but like... RIGHT NOW. which is speculation on my part right now, but i think tha was also the reason for such a rushed cdpr red release. they are by no means an inexperienced game studio, but the ambition and the amount of investment they did while overpromising and underdelivering was something they had to go through with since they probably literally could not afford a delay, even when they probably knew it would suck and players would catch on and eventually they also did. the poor souls really are the devs who probably nver had anything to do with this or wanted it to go this way, but poor manacement and exec level decisions, which just reflects badly on the industy as a whole. I think the system is broken somehow. maybe with mod support, stalker 2 can do the same as its predecessor and cp 2077 again as an example. an unfortunate state of affairs at this point for games, but I probably then wait a few years until it reached "gold status" so to speak, finally. just remember kids, no matter how beloved or underground your favorite dev studio, never pre-order! I learned my lesson with deus ex mankind divided back in the day and sort of un-learned it with cp 2077 (although I have to say, my release version apart from a few minor bugs ran surprsingly smooth compared to seemingly everyone else) to now re-learn it with games again.
3:07 what kind of area is that, it's definitely a mod because it's not presented in the vanilla Anomaly
It's the new levels addon. They recently added a new level just today for three new ones total!
I have done two videos on it if you are interested. Links are in the descriptions.
Tnx bro, good video regarding Stalker 2 too. I am a bit concerned too of how the final product is gonna look like but I guess we'll have to wait and see@@BrokenCircle1
a game developer killed in action and their country ravaged by war and they are still making the game. god damn
Games compared to their trailers never look as polished anyway, it's always for presentation and hype.
You might be seriously underlooking the story element, even on bolts and bullets old port i'd still want to enjoy the story because it comes first for me.
Did you like the Strider trailer? 😏
those orig trailers looked like... 99.4% hi-rez SQUAREENIX level quality/animation(which can probably be interpreted as placeholder) and 0.6% game-engine being used.
Still looks good enough to me, hate linear games though.
Yeah obviously not pre ordering this game, last time was Star Citizen but did get a 20% discount 😂
the devs are all in czech republic, theyve benen there for a while
Haven’t played the stalker games just here to support the content
Thanks so much for that I really appreciate it.
Stalker Anomaly is a free fan game. It isn't perfect but I highly recommend giving it a try.
bro just play the originals
I wish we had more 8-bit games tbh. I've always loved the 8-bit visual style of games like the older Pokémon games and Doom and Marathon
Also I wish the devs luck. It's amazing that they keep working on Stalker 2 under the circumstances they're in. I haven't played Stalker ngl
Also Jesus. One of their devs was KIA?
Yes. I highly recommend playing Wolrdbox it is a fantastic game. Doing a video on it probably next week.
As for Stalker try Anomaly. It's free.
@@BrokenCircle1 I have so many games to play. Rn I'm playing Bioshock 1. I think my Adhd causes me to not finish games lol. It's rare that I do
@intuitionedits2.032 I get it. That's awsome. It's funny I just started replaying Bioshock the other day.
Fantastic series.
@@BrokenCircle1 it's kind of a creepy game ngl.
@intuitionedits2.032 Bioshock? Yeah big time especially the early game.
I love the Stalker games and wish nothing but the best for the devs, but man this is one drastic downgrade. This doesn't look remotely close to what was shown before. Like a different game.
Hope gameplay stays intact...
Yeah that's what I'm saying. Thanks for watching.
I don’t get how yall see so much of a difference
The cutscenes worry the most tbh.
That sorta thing breaks my immersion usually, I'm not fond of being railroaded or being forced along a scripted story.
But I'll enjoy the story either way most likely.
For me the cutscenes didn't bother me that much but I see what you're saying.
I've been playing Stalker since 2010, I've waited since the first version of Stalker 2 was cancelled over a decade ago, and I must say, this game looks pre-alpha. I feel betrayed, to say the least.
I wouldn't go that far but there are definitely some issues but like I said I'm not all that surprised given GSCs history of broken games. Cool games but broken nonetheless.
The first of it's reveal trailer looked soo good, it looked like the generational leap for open world fps games but always seemed fishy , and now it's true
Those devs will now play the Ukranian conflict card and try to justify the massive downgrade. Pretty sure it always was this level, the earlier trailers were just presented as vertical slices to generate hype.
This will be yet another visual plus poor 30 fps game for Xbox.
Hopefully by the time it launches on PS5, it's performance is worked on (some leaked document mentioned 3 months Xbox exclusivity I think)
Xbox exclusivity? That's absurd.
Yeah it can be hard to tell these days what is genuine difficulties and what is hiding behind current events in any case.
I remember 343 tried to play the war card...even though they aren't even based in Ukraine. They tried to say it was the wars fault there game wasn't working right lol.
didn't the studio move to Czech Republic
Agree with you
Not much hope’s
It is like metro, Chernobylite
It will eventually be cancelled and not released. Ive seen this before. Its the lazy devs syndrome. They give themselves wo much time to finish it they do nothing until they are behind schedule than try to rush and finish it. This will be jankier than 2077
I don't know about that but it definitley is concerning.
Bro they are making it during a war. One of the main devs died on the frontlines of Ukraine
@@Noah-dj7zpwasn't that guy an ex-dev who worked on clear sky before the whole "ceo firing the entire company instantly" incident
Well, modders can fix the visuals up. This shouldn’t be needed but oh well, look at Bethesda games.
Let’s hope the ai and story is great.
"Graphics aren't everything."
I can relate. Pokemon Sword and Shield look cartoonish, even by Game Freak's standards, but that's not the problem with the games. The issue was the story, which wasn't bad, but honestly should've been better.
“Bad graphics” are a thing in 2023? I’m sorry, I’ve been playing games since 1986 and yeah…there is no such thing
Ugh that anomaly or whatever stalker footage, I always hated the TERRIBLE aliasing implementation on that games. Couldnt bare to play them.
I always notices the trees looked terrible though Anomaly does improve them.
@@BrokenCircle1 Anomaly does improve alot. But the aliasing is really a turn off for me.... You'd have to play at 4k I guess? But the engine is too demanding at 4k?
arent they owned by microsoft?
GSC? I don't think so. I think they have some kind of deal with Microsoft to release it on Xbox but other than that no I don't think they are owned by them.
Big red flag for me is the UI - all three games had very nice looking UI with icons, menus, inventory etc… this looks too sterile to me. We definetly need to see at least 5 mins of pure gameplay demo footage so we can truly see what the game is like
Also the atmosphere…. I don’t feel it. Something is not right.
Yeah it seems like things are too easy almost like too much of a Call of Duty campaign rather than the bleak, open, and exploratory type we had in the originals.
Its because the graphics are actually good and the people speak fluent english. We stalker fans just dont really have that
nice joke, the og trilogy's hud wasn't nice at all. CoP's was fine, but the rest, nahhh
this game's hud looks way better. about the atmosphere, it's just because we aren't used to stalker having great graphics like this.
TBH, when it comes to trailers I just assume it's all a bullshit tech demo.
Fair enough.
I got the chance to play the demo and i can say game is great but demanding for PC, even doe they say 1080 ti for 60fps at 1080p, well already at 1440p you need rtx 3090 to run full settings and keep in mind RT was off during the demo at gamescom that's why the game looks like that :)
and that's probably the reason why they downgraded ..... its very demanding and they want it to make it work on x box as well . the multi platform release on day one is going to draw back the quality of textures and effects .
I still don't understand what happened with the animations ....that scene exiting the tunnel where the Makarov in his hand pop's up instantly
no animations at the search scene .... just a menu pup up
and men that car with the stash .... 250x250 pixel textures ...in 2024
At the end of it i'm still going to buy the game and play it just because is STALKER ... i 've played every single stalker and mod up there for tausends of hours ....so HELL YEAH i will play this one to !!!
keep in mind only console with have less things, pc will have everything @@LAURKAMY
Multiplayer that isnt open world oriented is a MAJOR red flag.... even worse is skins for it. it really feels like too much developing is probably going to money grabs like multiplayer crap, when it should be going towards AT MOST co-op (2 to 4) open world...
Also i really really really hate the American sounding voiced protagonist.. HES NOT EVEN FUCKING SLAVIC SOUNDING
I don't mind the voice acting, I thought maybe he was an American character.
Everything else yeah....they've already said there will be no coop which sucks and the multiplayer while it was in the originals just seems very...'why?' At this point.
Stalker Isn't known for multiplayer its known for its story, immersion, and environments.
At first glance, it looked like a graphics mod made by Dimitri on the MOD DB for Stalker anomaly but still, I don't care, i love Stalker too much the best game that consists of a mixture of emotions, depression, relief, sadness and loss, but never joy... and that my friends, is Stalker.
I agree with all except that last bit. There's plenty of joy in the Zone, it just comes in small ways. Sitting by a campfire with your team, enjoying marshmallows or sausages roasting on the open flame, one of your teammates playing a tune from his guitar. Perhaps we all just got back from a successful artefact hunt and used our hard earned rubles on shots of Vodka, before using the rest to touch up our gear and stock up on supplies, off again for another haul. Udachnoy okhoty, Stalker.
They lied to us about graphics with their first trailer and tried to sell us NFTs. No thanks, I don't byu games from scammers.
Fair enough. Like I said things aren't looking too good right now and while I really want things to be good at the moment it needs alot of work. I definitely wont be pre ordering I'll wait and see how the game it.
Thanks for watching.
It's sad that judging by the comments, people in the West are very naive and gullible. They ready to forgive all deliberate lies. GSC failed to make a good game. Cinematic trailers are getting worse and worse every time, and unfortunatly, these is how game exactly looks like.
But, may be im wrong about community :)
Yeah it is sad and so many people got so mad that I pointed this out.
I have been a Stalker fan for years and I am not too optimistic about Stalker 2. First of all there is insane hype and love for the original games with an insanely active and talented community still pumping out conversion mods to add to the games replayability to this day, not sure if any new addition can stand up to such nostalgia and hype.
Secondly, while the people have put the Stalker trilogy on a pedestal due to it delivering a different experience than most games, and love revisiting the same places in the Zone in every new game addition they won’t accept a simple game reskin with a few added features after such a long wait. Yet that is exactly what the studio has been consistently doing to the Stalker franchise, and I suspect they think 'that' is still a viable winning strategy to conquer the videogame market at this time.
Thirdly, the game will fail if it focuses on fancy graphics and adds two or three new, visually impressive anomalies to justify the setting and pretend it is innovating and adding to their legacy. On the other hand Stalker 2 will become a success if it focuses on the lore and the survival setting and enriches the experience with faction interactions, new secret lab lore and new interesting locations to be explored. Not sure if they can pull this off without deluting their vision when the books the Stalker games was based on and was used as a guide for them used aliens to explain unnatural things. If the developers manage to involve the community and the modders and have them cooperate with them as testers and lore advisors for the final product the game will become a huge success. If it tries involving aliens we will retreat like an emission is about to hit.
Last but not least, if we are talking graphics, the standalone mod Anomaly looks more impressive and intuitive than what we have seen in the trailers of Stalker 2. My biggest fear is that Stalker 2 will be form over substance and try to be a AAA Call of Duty with sparse danger areas, and when the game fails the company will blame the Anomaly modders for cutting off on their profits, starting a witch hunt, putting an end to the mods sustaining their playerbase and alienating the community in one fell swoop. Let’s hope that I am wrong, still it isn’t a good sign that most members of the original team chose to part with the company and that loot boxes are getting involved.
Yeah I share many of the same concerns.
I don't know about focusing too much on the survival stuff though.
Personally I think Lost Alpha did survival mechanics the beat. More in depth than the vanilla games but not as tedious as Anomaly.
I've grown tired of the games where you are basically required to spend hours learning just how to play. I'm a guy with a busy life with things to do with my family, my job, my house, car, etc. I don't have the time or the motivation to spent 45+ minutes watching tutorials on how to fix my guns.
I can do that in real life.
As for the devs leaving...yeah I had done a video maybe about a year ago now maybe a bit less where I talked about just that. The guy who runs GSC is rumored to not be a particularly good guy which explains the microtransactions and NFTs they tried to push and well...the original team that made stalker what it is being gone.
Yeah I'm very skeptical to say the least.
Thanks for watching.
@@BrokenCircle1 By focus on survival I meant more the scavenging aspect of limited resources, avoiding confrontations to save ammo, patching up stuff that are falling apart, jamming guns and so on. Although I 100% agree the medication and crafting/repairing system in anomaly is blown out of propotions and I didnt even bother reading half what all those pills and syringes do or cared about trying the new cooking system.
Thank you as well, for the informative and interesting coverage.
Looking at all trailers you never see any real gameplay. The last one looks like it but it is spliced so much that you can't ascertain how the game works proper. The NPCs are still dumb as rocks and most of the trailer are canned animations and cutscenes. hmmmmm
The graphics aren’t everything kind of misses the point here.
In the examples you brought up, they specifically were going for that style. It’s not like they were trying to get a certain level of graphics but it wasn’t working as they had hoped.
That actually is the case here. I’m nearly 100% the devs intend for the graphics to be better, but roadblocks are in the way.
It would be different if they were going for an older-game look. But if they were the case, the graphics wouldn’t be getting worse each trailer.
Not blaming them, I understand the reason. But the “graphics aren’t anything” misses the point I just made.
I have been worried about stalker 2 since that first goofy ass trailer and since most of the devs who made the orginal stalker game left gsc because of internal politics and financial abuse (see sergys underpayment of employees whilst boasting of sales) i am not surprised this product will be nothing but stalker themed game that will be a visual upgrade from OT but a mechnical downgrade in every sense.
I share all your concerns and I have heard about that.
Thanks for watching.
@@BrokenCircle1 metro 2033 was the stalker 2 all along
@@567sinclair While I like Metro I wouldn't go that far.
Exodus was a disappointment for me, might make a video about it some day.
Its gonna be a “woke” mess. I also think its gonna be some sort of 20 hours stalker wanna be theme park with microtransactions. Basically a cod game with a stalker skin.
Stalker doesnt have forced in game cutscenes, except the endings in SOC. they could easily take advantage of new ai technologies and create a living breathing world. But nah i dont think its gonna happen.
@@PsycosisIncarnatedthere are more cutscenes than that in soc tho
I believe in these devs. I think the game is going to be amazing..
who cares man graphics dont matter as long as the gameplay is good
In all honesty. I dont want it to be “just enough”.
The modders have done a ton of work in conceptualising what the zone could be in a game. Just look at GAMMA for gods sake. Yes yes im gonna get all the whiney dudes bellow commenting “but gamma aint stalker wahwahhhh”. Oh shut it. Its literally in the zone, its a modpack based on STALKER. Its STALKER. And the devs should be learning from the community instead of going against it.
The fact that they wanna release dlc and microtranscations with a preorder is also very concerning. Most games that do this end up being bad cash grabs.
Yes I had made a video on that a while ago and got alot of shit for it. Day 1 DLC just a few years ago was viewed as unacceptable yet for some reason now everyone seems fine with it. Gaming industry today is disgusting but then again people tolerate it.
@@BrokenCircle1 I totally agree with you, im from the early days of gaming and such a concept was ridiculous, and i still think its utterly ridiculous and a bit disgusting as well.
They could literally just copy everything the community did and put it within the u5 engine with much more intelligent and modern AI, (think FEAR AI on steroids), plus new combat and rpg mechanics, and it would be the game of the century. But nope, microtransactions bruh.
@PsycosisIncarnated Yeah. There's something wrong with this younger generation of gamers and the manchildren that are ok with all the modern BS.
Literally I can think back to 2015 when all the day 1 DLC really started to take off with Destiny and BF4 and the like and it was almost unanimously agreed that it was an awful and scummy practice to do.
Yet for some reason people today defend it rigorously sticking up for these corporations like its they're their girlfriends or something.
@@BrokenCircle1 dlc for us back in the day used to be EXPANSIONS, and literally new worlds/items to unlock and keep forever. Now its all loot boxes, microtransactions and all this total nonsense like knife opening with csgo, and battle passes on cod. Just total cancer man.
Last game i bought and felt scammed was mw2 cause of the hype. and look how that turned out. not doing the same mistake with stalker or any other modern game anymore. the industry has turned into a total joke.
@PsycosisIncarnated Yes it has.
I remember back in the day getting Yuris Revenge expansion for Red Alert 2 and it included two or three new campaigns, an entire new faction, LOADS of new maps, a new soundtrack, and new units for existing factions.
That was maybe 40 bucks back then. That expansion had more than most modern games do.
It looked interesting to me when I first saw it, but after how long its been and what has been released I dont think it is worth it. Ukraine has been in Civil war since 2014, and it probably wont end for another 10 years. It is basically the same situation as what I saw when boots on the ground in Afghanistan.
Game still looks good visually. And at least they made an honest trailer
People the OG trilogy was not haveing the best graphics at the time when it came out in 2000s and it came out great and also what is a stalker game without bugs
Bugs shouldn't be accepted as the standard just because the old games are full of them.
@@BrokenCircle1 yeah i know but its a running joke that they are not bugs but anomalies
So what is the reason for the visual downgrade?
I have Ultimate pre ordered for a year now. I support them fully!
All the reviews said that the gameplay is fun, i really dont think the graphics are the biggest concern, especially when you take into account that the studio had to relocate because of the war, and a few of their devs being sent to battle and sadly passing away, i trust the developers to deliver a solid gameplay experience over graphics.
Did you watch the video?
It looks fine.
Bro the game looks fine, graphics unironically peaked in the PS4 era. As long as we can get a good 60 fps at 1080p that’s fine in my book lol. Elden Ring isn’t the highest graphical fidelity but the game has good art direction and has an immersive atmosphere. It looks like STALKER 2 has both in my opinion too. Also Microsoft is funding this game so in theory they have pretty much unlimited resources. If Microsoft wants to, they could give them A LOT of money to hire more people to assist with development. But I guess Microsoft has to decide how much they want to help fund. The DLC thing does suck and it’s too bad that it’s a common thing in the industry. So greedy lol 😂 Also, I don’t think there’s any problem with the game being on Consoles instead of exclusively PC. The consoles are not holding back game development any more like they did back when the original stalker was being developed.
At the cost of being verbally mauled to death by a certain faction in the stalker community, my unpopular hot take is the people that have the biggest issues with Stalker 2 right now, is the Stalker: Anomaly part of the community. They're kinda like the Arch Linux users of the stalker community. They gotta remind you every 15 seconds how awesome their version of stalker is and that it's the only way a stalker game should be made/designed. Not to say that there isn't any valid criticism anywhere, but that they're most vocal of the group out of the bunch is all.
anomaly is kinda trash and i still think stalker 2 has a disturbingly high amount of red flags to where I'm convinced GSC is grifting their own fans in ways even todd howard wouldn't touch, so while i get that anomaly fans are babbies i don't think it is actually as much of a core issue here as others do
Gee, it couldn't possibly have to do with the fact that the original trailer showed off all the wet texture effects while the newest one doesn't, could it? It couldn't possibly have to do with the fact that the previous trailer showed off lighting effects at sunset while the latest only shows off day and night lighting, now could it?
If the artstyle is good, graphics are not important. People keep forgetting how dated the graphics of the original STALKER trilogy are, but the fans keep showing interest and love TO THIS DAY. Making mods out of passion, so there must be something to it.
Regarding the visual downgrade, I think it's a bit disappointing they may not be able to optimise it and keep the same visual fidelity. It's a big open world and it may have required RTX4090s to run smoothly. So, fingers crossed the developers actually deliver a good game in the end.
Stalker fans are the last that shoud care about graphics dude
Lol why? Where's the logic in that?
I don't know what you people have going on in your heads sometimes. The game companies routinely make vertical slices of their games so that they can crank the graphics all the way up and add a little extra flare to show off their game. It is still also very possible that the game can look as good as that initial trailer that you're carrying on about. When making a game and play testing they, of course, have to play the game with various graphics settings, etc. It's entirely possible that the footage you seem to be so worried about is a screen cap from an internal play test where the person playing is doing so on an average machine with more "true to life" settings and hardware. Personally, I think the game looks great. You are comparing footage of the game during the day, in a "wasteland" type setting with drab foliage to the game, at night, with all kinds of lighting, reflections, chromatic aberration, etc. I think you are complaining about nothing. The game has, at least, 6 months before release. And you're complaining about some supposed performance issues in footage of a game that is most likely undergoing optimizations as we speak. I don't know man... I loved all of the other Stalker games. If this game follows that trend, then it will be a great game as well. I'm just so tired of all the doom and gloomers shouting that the sky is constantly falling, etc. It's just weak.
i think you're forgetting that this was shown on gamescom, a public event where companies show trailers that will hype up their games. If there is a significant difference in graphical fidelity between one trailer and another, would it not be a cause for concern? Would YOU not be concerned? I appreciate how much people like you care for GSC and the games they create but please do not be a blind follower. You are allowed to criticize them. For instance, like you said, they may be fixing these graphics and the somewhat noticeable performance dips right at this moment as there is still plenty of time left until the game is to be released. But... do we know that for sure? This is an obvious cause for concern because nobody is sure if the game will release as well as people like you expect. Not to mention that if it were the case that they would be using test footage from some graphics settings that don't bring out the game's full potential, then why would they use that as a way to get people hyped? Would it not make more sense to show the best qualities of your game? No disrespect but please tell me you at least notice the difference between the two trailers.
Best way for the game to be in its best possible state is for them to delay it and for us to support them.
I hear what your saying man but you have a couple of misconceptions about a game coming out on PC/Xbox together. The Xbox is literally a Pc for the last 2 generations. Stalker 2 being on UE5 its using DX12 just like the Xbox. If anything aside from the war is causing trouble for Stalker 2 I think it might fall to the Youth and under development of Unreal Engine 5. Word from digital foundry is the gamescom build was running on Pc using no image reconstruction techniques not even DLSS or FSR are being used in this build. From Ue5s release history at the moment its seems all devs are having to fall back to DLSS and FSR to get their games running at acceptable levels on both console and PC.
Graphics aren't everything but in a game like stalker? atmosphere is, and good atmosphere needs good graphics not next gen but good artistic style and not just the generic nanite ue5 look
Very true but I think you missed my point. There has been a clear downgrade in graphics from what was originally displayed. That's the issue. All while there's still pre order stuff well over $100 for a game that who knows of it will even come out at this point.
mate have you even played the original stalker trilogy... those games had bad graphics even for the time they were released because they were being developed on a engine from 2001 yet they still have insane atmosphere and hold up great to this very day. good atmosphere doesnt rely on good graphics whatsoever.
Im still thinking this is just a console downgraded version for the series x and series S no idea of its the same for PC wonder why people wont just ask Gsc they seem to be fairly open to talk to fans
Honestly its not a huge problem if stalker 2 releases in an unfinished state with loads of bugs.
*The modding community will make do*
Yes, unless Stalker 2 is a generic westernized shooter like Chernobylite and the company starts hunting down the modders thinking they are the ones to blame for Stalker 2 not making a profit.
Loads of irrelevant stuff ... Graphics in the trailer are nowhere near those of 2009 game and graphics are also the easiest things to bump up.
Very shortly after release there's going to be tons of ENB mods with additional shaders and 4k/8k textures and so on...
I'd trust what the people who played the 15 minute demo say instead of someone who haven't touched it and just tries to soft shit on the game.
Wah wah wah.
Never said it was from 2009.
Also it should not have to be the responsibility of modders to make a game serviceable.
I wasn't even shitting on it in any capacity just expressing concern.
Take your angry little fanboy attitude somewhere else.
Everything will be fine, I think this downgrade is planned so that everyone will get down with their expectations because we talk about STALKER, which is not about all these 3A games trash-talking but about the ZONE.
Why would they plan a downgrade? Nah
@@BrokenCircle1 Because a lot of renders don't correspond with previous materials they have shown, I will not believe that they have issues with shadows and lights development at this point, another thing is random items on the screen render almost perfectly in some views, when others look like have not been loaded yet in UE5 kind of cache for it to be rendered on the screen. Based on people who got to play the game at the demo event, what we got on the YT gameplay trailer lacks a lot of things, just my thoughts.
Hmm that seems very deceptive. Its one thing to have a pre rendered cutscene but showing something that looks like gameplay that definitely isn't actual gameplay seems scummy to me. @@amn3siacx
Major copium. Keep huffing.
Am I the only one who thinks it looks fantastic? Like, what are you on about. Saying it looks like something from 2016 is just silly.
I'm tired of hearing the ''they're in the middle of a war'' excuse,the devs moved to the Czech Republic over a year ago. The game getting delayed yet again for 6 months at best (q1 2024) is a bad sign considering how poor the latest version of the game performs even after the huge downgrades,dropping below 30 fps frequently.
The below 30 fps thing I can get behind.
As for the war...I normally don't defend companies at all anyone who watches me knows that.
I have been critical of GSC in the past and I stand by that criticism however some of their staff is actively in the army so when alot of your staff is missing I can understand some issues.
Like I said as long as they delay it until it's ready I'm fine with it I guess.
On the other hand to a point I do think the war should not be (as many in the comments of my last Stalker 2 video were) used as a justification for scummy business practices. (NFTs, day 1 DLC, Microtransactions)
We can acknowledge the hardships faces by the devs but also call trouble out when we see it.
Thanks for watching.
at least they're taking their time and not rushing to release the game and have it end up like a dumpster fire like Cyberpunk 2077. Stop shitting on GSC so god damn much people, it's not like GSC is a multibillion-dollar game studio.
@@BlyatifulButter they sure want to act like a big game studio when it comes to the monetization of their game.
No they didnt. Most of the devs are still in Ukraine, and men are not allowed to leave the country. Maybe they have an office in Prague and house some staff, but most of their development (if not all) is taking place in Ukraine. They even released a devblog showing them still in Ukraine.
@@RoKBottomStudios Fair point.
Well, GSC games is very well known for its empty promises and fals advertising: we've seen it before in Stalker 1. I'm not even going to discuss dubious morality of the CEO and the fact that the company has been harassing many Russian speaking game journalists lately, trying to take their YT channels down.
The guys are trying to make a game, but we shouldn't expect much of them. Not because of their tough situation, but because of the company itself. Unfortunately, just like Blizzard, this company doesn't have a good reputation 😢
Well I don't know about the journalist thing but I have heard about the CEO before.
That's what I'm saying they don't have a good reputation.
The original games are good if you can get them to run properly but I can aknowledge there are alot of issues with them and that's what I see happening with Stalker 2 sadly.
Why people get angry at me for pointing that out is beyond me.
It is coz its demo
A demo is supposed to showcase the best of what you have and if this is the best then I am concerned.
@@BrokenCircle1 i think that they sacrifice visuals in order to make playable demo in time for gamescom
Christ the game doesn't need to look next gen to be good, its all about art direction, story and gameplay
You missed the point of the video then. It's not just about the visuals. It's about the company history, the delays, the downgrades signifying issues.
@@BrokenCircle1 I don't know anything about the company history, I was just frustrated because I heard so much complaints about games like AC6 and Stalker 2 not looking next gen so I kinda lost it lol
Stop using the so called war as an excuse man !! They have been making this game years before it all started.
Shhhhh
PC for chads.
I cannot understand why anyone would stay on console anymore. I switched to PC around 2015 and never looked back.
Maybe because not every can afford max expensive pc machines
and yes, the developers have been working for 2 years in the Czech Republic don't feel sorry for them ;)
I still do. Worrying about your families being blown up and having to move countries to work like that must be very stressful.
do not trust the developers the game will not be released in 2024 .I won't be surprised if the Metro game comes out earlier xd .Old stalker developers are working on games METRO. the best stalker is made by fans For example stalker anomaly gamma mod )
GAMMA is the most overrated mod I have ever seen. I played it and tried so hard to like it but honestly it kind of sucks IMO.
I wouldn't call it the best at all. Not even in the top 10/
The mods are fun but they turn Stalker into Tarkov lmao. Feels like a good chunk of people view Stalker as Single Player tarkov
Yeah that is annoying. @@yonkers6816
@@BrokenCircle1 seriously. Give it another go. You’ll be surprised how good it is. You can even tweak it to your liking(no campfire saves for example, and no gamma economy). Thats how modular the modpack is.
Gamma does so many things well its impossible to even talk about in one comment. Its too vast and complex that one play-through can last hundreds of hours.
@PsycosisIncarnated I tried to tweak it once or twice and it broke.
I've tried it about 3 or 4 times never liked it.
First Stalker was over ambitious and poorly managed and was severely downgraded at launch. Seems like Grigorovitch sadly learnt nothing, or thought that it all wasn't that much of an issue 1st time. I understand that they're not biggest studio, but learning to make your amibitions to come in terms iwth your resources is an important part of management.
Itll be the modding community who brings the game to its full potential a few years after release. I think the game will be okay at launch but with some glaring flaws that are hard to look away from. The day one DLC cash grab dogshit and multiplayer that wont be supported and will end up like crysis 3s multiplayer doesn't boad well with me either.
Its like Bethesda without the time and budget, kick out an unfinished game and just let the fans finish it.