The Original Matrix | The Trial of a Timelord | Doctor Who
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- Glitz fails to save the Doctor from quicksand, only to witness the Doctor resurrect himself. But as the Doctor explains all of this a bad joke in the un-reality of the Matrix. The Valeyard appears and explains to the Doctor why he needs to destroy him. Subscribe: bit.ly/SubscribeToDoctorWho
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This clip is now back! Apologies fans, there was a Glitz in the Matrix
Doctor Who LOL.
Doctor Who LOL Good joke 😂😂
Clever.
And the dumpster fire on 2020 doctor who must be a mega fuck up then
Yeah the glitch was saying The Doctor is the Timeless Child
Rest in peace Valeyard. Farewell Michael Jayston
The Matrix originally appears during the Tom Baker era, specifically the 1976 episode "The Deadly Assassin." Yes, six months before Star Wars came out, Dr. Who invented the Matrix.
I never knew that Tom Baker was in Doctor Who though I am fully aware of what the fourth doctor looks like
Umishiru Does Tom Baker look like William Hartnell?
Umishiru only in America. Dr. Who was on the map long before Tom Baker who is my personal favorite. Dr. Who did become the hit it is in America during Tom Bakers run. But it’s been on the map from the very beginning in 1963.
@@weirdofreak2505 Where else would you even know him from?!
Star Wars had no matrix so I dont see the relevance of comparison
Did you even watch this video, or the revelation of the Valeyard's true identity? Or any Sylvester McCoy story from 'Remembrance of the Daleks' onwards? Colin Baker did pretty good, considering the trouble the producers were giving him, and Sylvester McCoy sells his Doctor very well as a dark, manipulative entity who plays chess with the universe and uses everyone else as pawns. Don't let the garish costumes fool you, these truly are underrated Doctors.
Comment looks like a reply to another comment, unless you're seriously screaming at the BBC...
@@SStupendous yes it’s a reply to another comment. The comment above was made when there were no “direct replies” on UA-cam yet, like you and I having this conversation. The feature hadn’t been created.
@@bonehand87 Woah. I think I remember that. Then when they added the feature it would say "+" and then the username.
But that is all the Doctors
"You can stay here and build sandcastles! I'm sure if you think hard enough you can conjure up a bucket and spade!"
The literal best insult Colin Baker has ever given
RIP Michael Jayston.
The Valeyard was one of the Best things to come out of Colin Baker's Tenure as the Doctor.
So that's the Valeyard. Only ever read him before. God I have a lot of catching I'm to do, and it's taking forever.
Did you ever catch up lol
I miss Sabalom Glitz!!! Now that was a great character!!
i really hope they bring the valeyard into play again since it seems the timing is about right now.
I'd like to see the Valeyard actually become the Doctor's next regeneration and the Master, the very definition of whose character is to be the Doctor's opposite, become the reluctant hero after villainy loses its lustre in the face of the Valeyard's evil.
Yeah i expect this too....
Yeah bring Valeyard to new series , like he kills the 13th doctor , this would make great sense.
@Daniel Appleton this would be absolute masterpeace!
@Daniel Appleton 100% support this plot , the whole Doctor Who series would be very interesting then
RIP Michael Jayston 😢
Shame we didn't get much more of Glitz, he seemed like a cool character
R.I.P., Michael.
I've been on holiday to that beach. Aside from the quick sand, mustard gas and evil possible incarnation, it's a really nice holiday destination! ;)
They say the Valeyard is still teleporting around that beach to this very day...
The jump cuts of the valeyard are perfect. How did they do that?
Are you serious? I used to do that 40 years ago on my Super 8 film camera.
Transformers354 By using a mask and split screen. That way the other actors don't move when he disappears.
I would assume the same way they show the Tardis’ demateeializarion. They film one shot with him there and one shot without him, then edit it to so it immediately cuts from one to the other.
@@UnchainedEruption yup, they just skip the fade.
...how many times. The Valeyard is NOT a future incarnation, but was explicitly stated to be an "amalgation of his darker side", artificially extracted and given a form to basically screw him over. The Time Lords, of course, did not yet know they'd be granting him a new regeneration cycle (which they could've spared themselves if they hadn't executed him back in "The War games"), so they didn't pull the evil from further in the future.
He's basically like the dream lord. Hence why both have the identical bad sense of humor, love teleporting themselves around, and torment the Doctor by accusing him of getting the companions into danger.
Given the guilt complex that the Doctor has amassed by then, it certainly makes a lot of sense that his evil alter ego takes the form of a *court prosecutor*.
Veikko Elo until you find out that The Doctor was meant to die on Trenzalore without Time Lord interference since the Moment allowed the events(Last day of the Time War) to change and unlocked the Time Lock.
Veikko Elo Because the whole chain of events modifed by first the Moment and then the Time Lords. Moffart confirmed that the Moment allowed the events of the last day of the time war to change when someone asked about the time lock and the episode listen from a interview. Since the Valeyard exists and that the Doctor was destined to die on Trenzalore(without Time Lord interference) that the Valeyard is from the Doctor's first regeneration cycle.
TheArthasmenethril
Riddle me this: how does one thing happening to the Doctor prevent another thing from happening to the Doctor? Regenerations aren't some mystical magical powers that are connected to one's time-line, they are merely a survival-mechanisms. Getting a new cycle doesn't prevent a future the Doctor saw earlier. The Moment simply allowed the events of the Time War to change.
Besides, if anything then the Great Intelligence in the Name of the Doctor said that the Doctor would be the Valeyard before the end, even though the Doctor was on his last incarnation. I think that means a bit more than fan-speculation, now doesn't it?
PS: Love the way you misspelled Moffat's name. I'm not joking here, I'm going to use that later.
TheArthasmenethril Fair enough. I guess we'll have to wait.
Screw The Day of the Doctor, I say. It was 75 minutes of nonsense that made the canon way too complex for non-super-hardcore fans to follow and its climax was Steven Moffat jingling keys in front of the viewer's face, trying to distract the audience from the fact that it made no sense.
If 13 TARDISes are enough to lift Gallifrey away from the battle, why didn't the Time Lords do it themselves (they certainly had better machinery than type 40).
Say what you will about The Five Doctors (or any of the classic multi-Doctor stories), it at least made sense on its own merits, even though it did do really weird nonsensical stuff with the Second Doctor.
Veikko Elo If Gallifrey is under Siege you can guess they ran out of TARDIS's especially under that kind of bombardment.
okay.. that was freaking amazing. I have actually forgotten how good original Dr.Who was.
There is so much untouched meme material in the sixth doctor era
0:58 Wow, I love how brilliantly that was dubbed.
+Andrew Chapman It wasn't even dubbed; to get the effect, that footage was filmed backwards - he had to say that line backwards, which is why it sounds so strange.
***** Well either way, I still think it was brilliantly done.
Yeah, it's actually really well done, it has to be said.
@@Jobrooooo I'm pretty sure he mouthed it backwards and dubbed over it.
RIP Glitz.
ok i get that the Valeyard isn't a future version of the Doctor but he was formed or created in between his 12th and final incarnations so doesn't he need the doctor to get to that point to be created? This feels like a grandfather paradox.
I believe he's not actually from the future, he's a Matrix projection of a possible future incarnation. I'm guessing the High Council checked out a few and decided that was the most useful one to bring to life and replace the Doctor with.
Eleventh Doctor and Tenth Doctor created the Valeyard
I think the High Council looked at all the possible future timelines of the Doctor in the Matrix, saw the one in which he became the Valeyard, and used their powers to make that future projection temporarily real in the present. Therefore there's no paradox because the Valeyard is from a hypothetical future rather than the actual future.
New Who isn't canon.
I believe that the Valeyard is an entity created by the High Council using Matrix projections of possible future incarnations of the Doctor, rather than an actual person from the future.
I simply adore The Valeyard played by Michael Jayston!
It's great that he was able to return as the character in several Big Finish dramas.
This quicksand pseudo-death horrified me as a kid! Claustrophobic traps were a recurring theme in Dr Who. I've re-watched McCoy's Paradise Towers with the cleaner robots but don't get why I found them horrifying too. In the scene that scarred me the Doctor simply escapes down a vent as the robots come from either side! It wasn't even a cliffhanger bit but i played on my mind! I don't quite trust the street sweeper buggies to this day! I think I'd grown up a bit by the time Dr Who was trapped in the basement with the levitating Dalek but thank God I was older!
I always thought it was cool how Doc #6 struggles at first, then manages to get it under control and escape the sand, whereas the Valeyard is immediately in control and teleporting around with little effort. It really sells the idea that the Valeyard is the Doctor's future self--or at least a part of his future self. We witness the Valeyard's skill at navigating around in the Matrix at the same time as witnessing the moment he first began to learn how to do so.
Why doesn't the BBC release a box set of every old who series, they made one for the new who series.
Spider Rider They have I own a few myself.
I mean like what they did with every new who episode.
Spider Rider Again they have, however if you mean like with series 1 and series 2. The answer is is that many of the classic serials [specifically the first and second Doctors serials] are still missing or are destroyed so the BBC can't group them together until they're either found or are digitally restored through animation. Box sets do exist for them however: The Beginning containing the first three serials [The Unearthly Child, The Daleks and The Edge of Destruction] and The Dalek Wars containing Frontier In Space and Planet of the Daleks.
Because some morron at the BBC decided to burn/lose several episodes from the first 6 seasons, meaning the series will never be complete
they probably lost the originals
"All in all he wasn't a bad old codger."
The Valeyard is a left over Doctor, from one of the resets Gallifrey does, to survive and keep the Enemy, chained... The Enemy is the Original bodiless Doctor. Valeyard is his other form creates by time lord adjustments to time.
RTD NEEDS to bring back the valeyard. He would even be a bigger threat to Ncuti Gatwa's doctor.
Yes, and it could also teach us a lot about the timeless child.
If he is brought back, they'll unfortunately need to find a replacement for the Late Great Michael Jayston who passed away today.
That makes a lot of sense because he's also a timelord.
1:25 The Undiscovered Country ? Sorry mate, wrong franchise.
Shakespeare, Dimwit.
yeah, you got the franchise wrong, next thing you're telling me is that ''second star to the right, and straight on till morning'' isn't a Star Trek quote!
;P
henkman00 when you listen to it... It sounds like a babies version of the federations motto
I mean, you could think of Shakespeare as a Franchise. He never did an Endgame style crossover but it was a long time ago.
When I first heard of The Matrix in 1999 at the movies, I thought, "DOCTOR WHO!!!"
Loving the obvious use of green screen.
It was actually filmed on location at Brighton.
+Sidney Woolf-Hoyle I think he's referring to the part where Six rises out of the quicksand.
its still not greenscreen, its just weird backlight
I was going to say it was just en effect to make it look different jokingly but after a bunch of googling, it actually is just an effect they used
but just a practical effect
I would like to think that the Valeyard isn't just some random incursion. It's clear that by his own admission that he [the Valeyard] is incomplete, a half life if you will. I would like to add some headcanon regarding the Valeyard.
The Valeyard is an artificial incarnation of the Doctor that was created by the Time Lords during the Time War. Whilst he was unwilling and refused to comply with the call to duty from the Time Lords when the Time War first erupted, the Doctor still existed in some form that they could command, his mental imprint in the Matrix. The Time Lords pulled together the impression of the Doctor from the Matrix, cut out the parts that seemed less than valuable, embellishing those that were darker and more useful in a conflict situation, and made a version of the Doctor that was more cunning, ruthless, and merciless. This version of the Doctor they called Valeyard was sent to battle, but knew there was no surviving this conflict, not whilst multiple factions had the capacity to rewrite victories into defeats and vice versa, so travelled to a time in Gallifrey's past before the Time War, to a time when Gallifrey had held a position of reverence and omnipotence.
We could see the foreshadowing that the Time Lords were losing their exclusivity on time travel in the Two Doctors, with the Second Doctor seeing his friend Dastari, who accuses the Doctor of acting on the Time Lords' behalf to terminate his experiments for fear of opposition with time travel. Most forms were unsafe or crude, nothing quite matched the Time Lords in terms of finesse and refinement. Some of the actions the Doctor took in later incarnations could also have been seen as the Time Lords starting to lash out against the universe, abandoning their principles for fear that others were now capable of matching them, such as tricking the Daleks into acquiring Gallifreyan technology, which destroyed Skaro. And the rumours that some individuals had managed to actually poach secrets from the Time Lords themselves further threatened the impression the universe had of the Time Lords, especially when the Time Lords relocated the planet those thieves had hid on, a world that was unaffiliated and posed no threat, and bombarded it with cosmic radiation and devastated it, seemingly for no reason beyond fear, the universe started to revile the Time Lords.
Thus the Valeyard knew if the secret of the stolen secrets from Gallifrey remained that way, and the Doctor didn't survive to an incarnation that took actions which set into motion the Time War, he could prevent the Time War, rather than end it, as well as taking the Doctor's remaining lives and be complete. Trouble is about changing history though, you never know if you actually alter it or set it into motion.
Doctor: Where am I?
Valleyard: You are in the Matrix Mr. Doctor.
R.I.P Tony Selby
R.I.P. Neil Peart You have the greatest taste in music my friend.
And Now RIP Michael Jayston 😢
@@nekusakura6748 Our eternal Valeyard
Don't forget his speech to the angels at the end of "The Time of Angels".
"There's one thing that if you're smart you never put in a trap..."
:)
I don't see why most people like Tennant or Smith. Why not both? They are both truly amazing actors, and they each bring something special to their role as the Doctor.
we really need to see more of this guy in the new series
"Have a blast of this matrix"
1:29 ergo the sixth star trek movie :)
Damn...I must see every classics...
I met Colin baker the other day !!!!!!
They used rewind to rise him at 1:00
This is the first time i've seen this clip and his persona made me think of someone the 11th Doctor has met the 'Dream Lord' -- So im guessing this is showing that his 'Dark side' is still with him and will make himself known between his 12th regeneration and his last regeneration. Something to look forward too
I sort of thought he was both, like the doctor's immense rage of being near death and wanting to prevent it (as in his mind, he would have thought his death would be unjust) combined with a regeneration template or whatever type of thing that time lord can have a choice of
Thank you sir!
He wasn't the best cast for the role, he's said it himself. But he is a good actor, it's just that he's more of a theatre actor. He did the best he could with poor scripts, production problems, and having the BBC bosses trying to cancel a show they hated for years. His Big Finish adventures have more than redeemed him. I would really recommend them
I never thought he needed any redeeming. He shines no matter what he had to work with.
Now I know what episode I watched as a child, cuz that sinking mud really worried me
The Master said he was an "amalgamation" of the Doctor somewhere between his 12th an final incarnation!
As well as good acting, which Smith knocks out of the park he's so good.
*Looks at this episode, then at the summary for the Season Nine Finale.* Well, looks like someone from this serial is coming back in Season 9...
+Lumina Balderson Hell yeah! I've been waiting for Glitz to come back for years!
Oh, wait... you meant The Scrapyard! lol
Russell Tietjen
Indeed.
From the recent trailers, it looks like the Doctor is going Valeyard on the Time Lords.
Phineus Mikey a guy who works at BBC Doctor who Wales has hinted at his return
And you’re wrong.
The Valeyard was in Amy's choice
Well it seems like we finally understand where the valeyard came from!
I wish that BBC America/SyFy/Comet/some channel would air the old "Doctor Who"s!
I love you Michael Jayston. What a beautiful man you were and still now
Completely agreed. He just portrays the Doctor's darker side so well. He was easily the best thing about 'The Trial of a Time Lord', although imho, Colin Baker himself was equally great. Have you listened to 'The Sixth Doctor: The Last Adventure', where the two are reunited? Almost 30 years on, and he's still absolutely brilliant as the Valeyard.
"Doctor Who Unbound: He Jests at Scars" was quite a wonderful performance by him as well, as was "Trial of the Valeyard".
I hope we see the Valeyard back on the show sometime soon. Since too many retcons and unexplained changes in the new series would be the best suitable plot to use the Valeyard's tampering through time once again inside the Matrix..
Bah. I'll teleport where I please.
Just goes to show Colin deserved better
He's such a good actor
The Valeyard the original agent Smith.
This is what it feels like when you haven't slept. You just kinda slip into a different world.
"Could you just stay still a minute because I.AM.TAAAAAAALLLKKIIIIINNNNGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!"
so good doctor who
6 WAS GREAT and 7 is my favourite to this day! Have your opinions but don't be horrendous about their times as Doctor Who, you cannot change the fact that they played the Doctor, live with it.
At this point in time we still haven't witnessed the origin of the Valeyard. He's supposed to be formed between the 12th and final incarnation, so now that could mean at any point. My biggest question about the Valeyard is why did he choose to come back to try and kill the 6th Doctor specifically?
I don't think the Valeyard actually was from the future. I think he was created from a Matrix future projection after the 6th Doctor discovered Ravalox, so that the High Council could get rid of the real Doctor and replace him with a more useful one.
"Please Valeyard would you stop teleporting all around the place? It's very distracting when I'm trying to talk to you."
STOP MOVING ABOUT, VALEYARD!!
Luckily they are the best of friends nowadays and I am referring to the 6th doctor Colin Baker and the last doctor Michael Jayston also known as well as the Valeyard 😊
The Doctor's worst enemy... his dark side with every bad hair day thrown in and the Master was insulted.
Matt is my second favorite Doctor behind TOM
neil peart in a black robe lol
Haha, now you mention it I see it!
lol...
TO me the original show was getting its stuff together when ACE got with 7.
I also believe 6 would have been more loved if he had better scripts to work with. Once 6 got rolling, he was good as well. 6 and 7 were great Doctors. I like 7 more, but 6 was cool as well
Think that they'll ever bring the Valeyard back to resolve this? The whole thing felt very unfinished business!
that's insane enasni
SYNAX ERROR
Small resemblance to Peter Capaldi, other than the balding head.
Weird, maybe that was why they selected him as the 12th, and somewhere in the new seasons this amalgamation of the Doctor will occur. Peter does seem to look like the sort of person who would end up eventually playing a dark Doctor for a short while. I can't wait to see how he pulls the role off, if he does. :)
Good thing good old sixie had bright clothes
The movie basically mimics the plot of the Dr. Who show The Deadly Assassin.
Rossm3838
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What are you on about?
Rossm3838 this isn’t a movie. And just because the matrix is a plot point doesn’t mean it mimics the Deadly Assassin. The plots are completely different
The both of you.... quit thinking about it from the perspective of "Who is a better actor." We have a new Doctor coming now and we will love him just as we've always loved the Doctor. My journey started with Eccleston but then Tennant became a favorite, then I looked into to the other Doctors and began to love each one of them until my biology altered and I grew a second heart to contain my love and admiration of the single entity that is The Doctor.
I love all the Doctors. ALL of them. I hate when people insult my favorite characters. I think all the actors are brilliant, including Matt Smith. I look at the personality of the characters first, then how talented the actors are. And Matt is a very talented actor.
How about now? What about 12 and 13?
Colin Baker is one of my favorites!
"Valliard"!!!!!
Good video. :-D
2:22 - 2:50 Then do it already!
Glitz was the Cal Naugton Jr to the Doctor's Ricky Bobby
he easily could have had his own spinoff show if it was done in this century he was a fun character
"I walked in universes where the laws of physics were devised by the mind of a madman !"
Does 11 war refering to that moment ?
The Three Doctors
0:41 BLUB
I sincerely hope that Valeyard come back strong as a whole series, like i dont know kill the current doctor!
Yes, this is definitely the original matrix!
Of course there is nothing that screams "the Matrix ripped of a TON of material from Doctor Who" like The Deadly Assassins (Tom Baker era) episode. The Doctor literally 'jacks-in' to the computer to fight the Master. Furthermore, I suspect the Architect was slightly modeled after the White Guardian...but that may just be me.
Ah Trial of the Timelords, good memories. I miss the campy element. The drama in the re-boot along with the rabid fans who eat it up drives me nuts.
No, he is talking about the Anti-Matter Universe created by Omega in The Three Doctors.
Agreed!
I love Glitz :)
Apart from the one in the Deadly Assassin
Ben Adamek It's the same matrix?
Valeyard=Gelardine Husk
Valeyard has 0 chill
This ISN'T the "original" Matrix. The "original" Matrix was encountered by Doctor was in his 4th Incarnation (Tom Baker). Chancellor Goth, under the direction of the Master opposed him. Ah, it was in "The Deadly Assassin".
It's a reference to the movies of the same title.
coolsomeXD No, it's definitely not, this was way before the Matrix movies came out.
Even when I first heard of "The Matrix", I knew I had heard the term before. Despite being a dedicated fan of "The Doctor", I didn't make the connection, directly, until now. The word "matrix" is in the public domain because of its use in mathematics.
Anthony Constantini This reply is so tragically late nobody cares, but hohum.
It's titled _"The Original Matrix"_ precisely *because* it predates the Matrix movies.
Jim Farrell this is still the same matrix from the Deadly Assassin though. Just a different section of it
Is that country Wales?
Hamlet Act One Lol Baker
Oh no, a class full of tennant fangirls -.-". He was an amazing Doctor, not denying it, but get over him already!! And if it makes you happy, Matt Smith is leaving by the Christmas Special. fingers crossed for Chris Rankin XD
P.S.-Watch the speeches in 'The Pandorica Opens', 'Day of the Moon', 'A Good Man Goes to War', 'The Wedding of River Song', "the Angels take Manhattan', and 'The Rings oh Akhaten', Matt Smith's perforances are beyond EPIC!!!
Actually, it was the death of the original series, before ToaTL was written, some of the scripts for the next series would have been amazing, but the BBC decided to stop the show for a year and put it on trial, which ended up with Colin getting sacked because of poor scripts, the script editor resigning and the producer suffering from severe stress.
Kinda both!
Yes he is, he is my top favorite doctor. I love Colin Baker.
Brian Depastine Ditto
Reminds me of the Red Dwarf episode "Better than Life" which must have copied this
ojideagu what is there to copy? The ultimate foe was about the Doctor confronting his dark side in a surreal nightmare of a computer world whilst Better than life is about a fun VR game which gets corrupted by Rimmer’s negativity.
Why is collin baker considered the worst doctor his clips seem great?
colin baker + 2nd best doctor ever!