Ran 5 miles in them yesterday and 17 today with a pretty hard Parkrun. So far, I like them. They’re quite soft, quite responsive and very comfy. So far my only very minor gripe is the laces are too thin and the eyelets are hard plastic making it tricky to get a decent lock down. I’ll swap them if necessary so no big deal. Perfect for everything from easy to intervals to long runs. I also have ASICS Magic Speed 4, the ZF6’s are much better imo. These will defo be in my rotation.
I bought the Zoomfly 6 last weekend and went for a 3 mile run loved it.. I went for a 7 mile tempo run with my group of friends and loved the shoe. It took while for me to feel the groove because it was cold that night to feel warmed up but after mile 4 i was flying. Still breaking them in by loading more mileage but I was amazed by it almost reminded me of the Vaporfly 3..
When you said "Vomero 17 with a carbon plate" that is exactly my thoughts before seeing it in person. I really enjoy the Vomero so if it has that little extra pop from the plate would be nice. I have the Zoom Fly 5, and although ai don't hate it, it is certainly lacking in ride and response. A Vomero 17 with a plate would be a great quick trainer with a decent amount of support. A lot of the super trainers I have ran in still feel unstable. This combo sounds solid.
It's great to hear that you're a fan of the Vomero! The addition of a carbon plate could really enhance the experience. It sounds like you're on the right track with your thoughts on what makes a solid trainer.
It’s a great shoe and I love it especially at that price. The Kipchoge version looks fantastic. It has me running much faster with less effort. My feet feel comfortable and protected with loads of response from the foam and geometry.
Was initially turned off bc of the Flyplate but it looks extremely flexible (like the speed series plastic plate from saucony) Not a Nike fan, but this could be a competitor for the endorphin speed.
Just bought it this and taken it on a 10 mile run. I’m definitely a Nike loyalist so have the set up now that you suggested (Vomero, ZF6, VF3) and can see this trainer fitting in well for tempo & long runs in half marathon training. Enjoyed watching the review!
@@WildOutdoorLiving I own ASICS magic speed 4, adidas Takumi sen 10, ASICS Superblast 2, and Nike invincible 3. Strangely enough the SB2 is the shoe I wear the least. Maybe just doesn’t work for me, but I find it’s seriously over rated. I guess that what I get for buying into the internet hype.
Tried out the fly 6 the other day in shop treadmill. Works for a mild over-pronator like me. Quite comfortable felt good in warm up and when moving up through the paces. I prefer my Speed 4’s but thought fly 6 was good value for money.
will let you know on the performance review as i said in the video very transparent i am coming back from a marathon so this week mileage was not a usual week
Great review as always! But you have forgotten one thing Fordy: The original Nike Zoom Fly and Zoom Fly SP, was the start of the super trainers. It was very good. But then came the Saucony Endorphine Speed 1 (the best shoe ever made) and Nike never seemed to catch up. For one reason they thought super and heavy is the same thing.
Thanks for your input! The Nike Zoom Fly and Zoom Fly SP definitely made waves in the running community, and it's interesting to see how the market has evolved with the emergence of shoes like the Saucony Endorphin Speed 1.
The og zoom fly, zoom fly with flyknit and endorphin speed 1 were some of the best shoes ever. I miss that flyknit zoom fly, ran several marathons in those. And Endo speed 1 got me a 50k pr.
Thanks for your review! I loved my ZF 3 (3 pairs) and ZF 4 (4 pairs), they were so good next to my AlphaFly 1 and later my VaporFly’s. But then the ZF 5 came and I was not impressed and skipped these and moved fully to NB (incl. the Elite). But seeing these ZF 6 I might return to Nike for my carbon trainers. Hope they are as durabele as the 3 and 4 which I easily took to 1100km.
I'm glad you enjoyed the ZF 3 and ZF 4! It's always interesting to see how each iteration evolves. Fingers crossed that the ZF 6 lives up to your expectations!
Ugh. It looks they fixed the Zoomfly but I wish they didn't bring back the Zoomfly 3 upper. I liked that shoe but the upper was soooooo warm. Especially in summer conditions.
Fordy can you use a orthotic in the Fly 6, Nike shoes have a high arch which means your foot is too high in the shoe? Are you going to review any shoes for orthotic wearers?????
Why buy this over the streakfly? I'm on my 2nd pair of Streakfly this year. They're really comfortable, light and responsive for everyday runs. Don't see why I'd buy these over the streakfly.
Great question and I look forward to the comparison. I’ve only been running 7 months now and the B12 is my favourite shoe. I have these also with the Nike Vomero 17 which I also love. I use both of these shoes for all types of runs
The Peg Turbo NN and this thing are in completely different categories simply due to the massive difference in stack heights. 32mm/22mm Vs. 42mm/34mm. One is approaching racing flat territory w/ the Peg's teeth rattling 22mm forefoot (which quickly packs down during a long run). The other is a legit max stack shoe that violates World Athletics 40mm regulation limit.
Is the arch better or worse than that of the AF3, Chris? Any shoe got Kipchoege's touch has the arch sensation or what. I hate his feet. Wait, I hate my feet !!! My Alphafly 3 has about 80km. I've done 2-h long run in it, but i dont think I can race a FM in it because of the arch ...I can feel it...
The arch of the shoe can definitely feel different for everyone! It's important to find what works best for your feet, especially when it comes to long runs or races.
Quite like that colour and decent for time of year, entered raffle for sl evo which I s a deffo non winter colourway sure some Nike haters will slag it. Have this in my basket can’t decide if I need it. Side note wakey thorne park run fordy takeover was a great event today especially for the 0-5kers
Does look like Nike was a tad stingy with the ZoomX on this one. I think, maybe, the Vomero 17 has more ZoomX in the mid sole. Guess that may make sense since V 17 is non plated.
You can find the Pro 3 in old colours for around £150 - I think it’s hard to justify super trainers when last years super shoes are cheaper on discount.
@vincewarne228 Fully agree. Except Superblast and Adidas Prime X, the rest of the super trainers are nonsense in my opinion. And maybe Saucony Speed but only if you get it on discount. Its original price makes no sense. Pro 3 so much better shoe.@@vincewarne228
Nike running is lacking behind Adidas and other brands in all ways... They finally decided to catch up in 2024 and start making shoes for ordinary runners. Expecting Zoomfly 6 is much better than 5 as Zoomfly 5is probably one of the worst running shoes I've ever had, at least they remove the suction cup design at the bottom and stop using rubbish... literally...scraped ZoomX foam... Hard to believe a billion dollar company can come up with that idea in midsoles foams.
It's definitely been a wild ride with Nike's running shoes. Let's hope they take feedback seriously and deliver something truly impressive with the Zoomfly 6!
@@FordyRuns It looks like they are going to at least put more effort in non elite runners, briefly tried on the Vomero Plus, they are really good (Superblast level good), looking forward to it.
Never buy a shoe that has it's performance intentionally held back by the manufacturer. Everybody now knows that Nike intentionally turned the Zoom fly series into a dogsh!t shoe so that Nike fans would train and race in Vaporflys.
@@ATREU850 Nike would disagree with you and Nike stockholders would say the performance of the stock over the last several years has been a 'disaster'. Before the CEO resigned last month he conceded (his words) "they underinvested (and innovated) in the running category in favor of lifestyle & basketball". Elliott Hill, the new CEO recently told stock analysts that Nike is diving headfirst into its running “comeback". Nike does not argue that the products (overall & in general) have not served the running community well - that's Nike's view of themselves.
Ran 5 miles in them yesterday and 17 today with a pretty hard Parkrun. So far, I like them. They’re quite soft, quite responsive and very comfy. So far my only very minor gripe is the laces are too thin and the eyelets are hard plastic making it tricky to get a decent lock down. I’ll swap them if necessary so no big deal.
Perfect for everything from easy to intervals to long runs. I also have ASICS Magic Speed 4, the ZF6’s are much better imo.
These will defo be in my rotation.
It sounds like you’re really enjoying those shoes! It’s great to hear they’re performing well for both your long runs and intervals. Happy running!
I bought the Zoomfly 6 last weekend and went for a 3 mile run loved it.. I went for a 7 mile tempo run with my group of friends and loved the shoe. It took while for me to feel the groove because it was cold that night to feel warmed up but after mile 4 i was flying. Still breaking them in by loading more mileage but I was amazed by it almost reminded me of the Vaporfly 3..
When you said "Vomero 17 with a carbon plate" that is exactly my thoughts before seeing it in person. I really enjoy the Vomero so if it has that little extra pop from the plate would be nice. I have the Zoom Fly 5, and although ai don't hate it, it is certainly lacking in ride and response. A Vomero 17 with a plate would be a great quick trainer with a decent amount of support. A lot of the super trainers I have ran in still feel unstable. This combo sounds solid.
It's great to hear that you're a fan of the Vomero! The addition of a carbon plate could really enhance the experience. It sounds like you're on the right track with your thoughts on what makes a solid trainer.
as a vomero user, i found it very comfortable but slow, so i agree (and hope) this is what nike tried to do to make the foam combo a little faster.
It’s a great shoe and I love it especially at that price. The Kipchoge version looks fantastic. It has me running much faster with less effort. My feet feel comfortable and protected with loads of response from the foam and geometry.
Hi Chris, I'm looking for a 10K/half-marathon race shoe. What would you recommend? I have the Adidas B12 and Brooks Glycerin Max.
Asics Edge or Sky Paris
puma elite 3
Great review mate, how you finding the stability in the heel? 👍
It’s not the best vs others
Is it good for hell strikers?? because they are like the alpha fly 3 and those are bad for me
No
@@FordyRuns okay thanks you for responding i will probably look for the zm5 or something else!
Was initially turned off bc of the Flyplate but it looks extremely flexible (like the speed series plastic plate from saucony)
Not a Nike fan, but this could be a competitor for the endorphin speed.
Just bought it this and taken it on a 10 mile run. I’m definitely a Nike loyalist so have the set up now that you suggested (Vomero, ZF6, VF3) and can see this trainer fitting in well for tempo & long runs in half marathon training. Enjoyed watching the review!
Glad it’s worked for you and thank you
What’s your opinion of this vs ASICS Superblast? Especially for long marathon runs with uptempo intervals at marathon pace
Superblast smashes this to pieces
Just a shame that Asics have limited the supply of the SB2 so much that it’s nearly impossible to buy in UK! 😢
If that’s true this shoe must be terrible as I found the superblast 2 to be a huge let down.
Honestly cant stand Asics foam right now. Different preferences I suppose
@@WildOutdoorLiving I own ASICS magic speed 4, adidas Takumi sen 10, ASICS Superblast 2, and Nike invincible 3. Strangely enough the SB2 is the shoe I wear the least. Maybe just doesn’t work for me, but I find it’s seriously over rated. I guess that what I get for buying into the internet hype.
would you recommend these for daily slow run training?
Tried out the fly 6 the other day in shop treadmill. Works for a mild over-pronator like me. Quite comfortable felt good in warm up and when moving up through the paces. I prefer my Speed 4’s but thought fly 6 was good value for money.
It's great to hear that the Fly 6 worked well for you! Comfort is key, especially when you're pushing through the paces.
fordy are u not doing a review on adidas pro 4
i get it in a few weeks so not long to wait
Always getting helped from your honest review. Thank you always for the hardworking review
I'm so glad to hear that you find my reviews helpful! Your support means a lot to me.
@@FordyRuns Thank you :)
What was it like for harder intervals and tempos? Did it help?
will let you know on the performance review as i said in the video very transparent i am coming back from a marathon so this week mileage was not a usual week
Please compare it to the Hoka Mach X2.
Thanks
No that thing ripped my heel to pieces watch my video
@@FordyRuns compare the plates?
Why didn't they put a big SR-02 logo on the side?
Yeah I know right
As a companion with similar feel its the most important thing in my opinion
cool thanks
Great review as always! But you have forgotten one thing Fordy: The original Nike Zoom Fly and Zoom Fly SP, was the start of the super trainers. It was very good. But then came the Saucony Endorphine Speed 1 (the best shoe ever made) and Nike never seemed to catch up. For one reason they thought super and heavy is the same thing.
Thanks for your input! The Nike Zoom Fly and Zoom Fly SP definitely made waves in the running community, and it's interesting to see how the market has evolved with the emergence of shoes like the Saucony Endorphin Speed 1.
Yes indeed! @@FordyRuns
The og zoom fly, zoom fly with flyknit and endorphin speed 1 were some of the best shoes ever. I miss that flyknit zoom fly, ran several marathons in those. And Endo speed 1 got me a 50k pr.
Looking forward to more comparison between this one DN3 ES4 and MS4. Cheers
Next week
@@FordyRuns 🙏👍
Thanks for your review! I loved my ZF 3 (3 pairs) and ZF 4 (4 pairs), they were so good next to my AlphaFly 1 and later my VaporFly’s. But then the ZF 5 came and I was not impressed and skipped these and moved fully to NB (incl. the Elite). But seeing these ZF 6 I might return to Nike for my carbon trainers. Hope they are as durabele as the 3 and 4 which I easily took to 1100km.
I'm glad you enjoyed the ZF 3 and ZF 4! It's always interesting to see how each iteration evolves. Fingers crossed that the ZF 6 lives up to your expectations!
Thanks for the helpful info but i have a question
Is zoomfly 6 legal for half marathon?
Check the stats. If stack is below 40, it is.
yes
@@FordyRuns hmm..limit of 40 is only for full marathon?
@@FordyRuns thought these were 42mm though
Will wait for the evo sl that seems to be the best of all worlds
I’m worried but let’s see
Fordy.. would you go SC trainer over Elite?
yes as its the more complete shoe ie versatile
Ugh. It looks they fixed the Zoomfly but I wish they didn't bring back the Zoomfly 3 upper. I liked that shoe but the upper was soooooo warm. Especially in summer conditions.
Good point
Fordy can you use a orthotic in the Fly 6, Nike shoes have a high arch which means your foot is too high in the shoe? Are you going to review any shoes for orthotic wearers?????
I was thinking you'd pick up some of the longer/faster training in the Vaporfly if you had just it and the Peg.
yeah you can
Double the price of the SL2 on offer! But is it double the shoe?
maybe get the evo sl which is cheaper
Why buy this over the streakfly? I'm on my 2nd pair of Streakfly this year. They're really comfortable, light and responsive for everyday runs. Don't see why I'd buy these over the streakfly.
This or Boston 12?
will do a vs next week
Great question and I look forward to the comparison. I’ve only been running 7 months now and the B12 is my favourite shoe. I have these also with the Nike Vomero 17 which I also love. I use both of these shoes for all types of runs
Is this better than the puma deviate nitro 3s?
Same tbh
If you had the Peg Turbo and the Vaporfly, wouldn't they cover all the use cases well enough?
Yes it’s whether you want a plate although can go longer in the zoom fly
The Peg Turbo NN and this thing are in completely different categories simply due to the massive difference in stack heights. 32mm/22mm Vs. 42mm/34mm. One is approaching racing flat territory w/ the Peg's teeth rattling 22mm forefoot (which quickly packs down during a long run). The other is a legit max stack shoe that violates World Athletics 40mm regulation limit.
Thanks for a straightforward review.
Welcome and thanks for watching
It's actually ZoomX above and below the plate, with SR-02 used as a carrier foam (like the Zoomfly 5).
SR-02 is never used as a main foam.
That’s what I said
@@FordyRuns 4:08 sorry sounded like you are saying it's SR-02 under the plate.
Is this suitable for underpronation & wide foot ?
No
Nice review in what has become a complicated market choice for runners.
Very much
I have a Nike voucher - This vs the Peg Plus (turbo)?
depends what you want to do with it tbh
Is the arch better or worse than that of the AF3, Chris?
Any shoe got Kipchoege's touch has the arch sensation or what. I hate his feet. Wait, I hate my feet !!!
My Alphafly 3 has about 80km. I've done 2-h long run in it, but i dont think I can race a FM in it because of the arch ...I can feel it...
The arch of the shoe can definitely feel different for everyone! It's important to find what works best for your feet, especially when it comes to long runs or races.
Sounds really promising. Being the most accessible brand where I'm from, that's it ... I'm buying.
Let me know how you get on
Quite like that colour and decent for time of year, entered raffle for sl evo which I s a deffo non winter colourway sure some Nike haters will slag it. Have this in my basket can’t decide if I need it. Side note wakey thorne park run fordy takeover was a great event today especially for the 0-5kers
That color really is perfect for this time of year! Good luck with the raffle for the SL Evo; it's always exciting to try something new!
just get an asics superblast 2, or saucony endorphin speed 4.
Sure why not
Does look like Nike was a tad stingy with the ZoomX on this one. I think, maybe, the Vomero 17 has more ZoomX in the mid sole. Guess that may make sense since V 17 is non plated.
Yeah it’s a combo of the two
Be interesting when the Adizero SL Evo comes on the market
Absolutely! The Adizero SL Evo is definitely generating a lot of buzz, and I can't wait to see what makes it stand out!
@@FordyRuns I ordered the Fly 6 Thursday night and tried to order the Evo SL Friday morning, but all sizes sold out really fast.
Couldn’t they have just combined this and the Turbo into one versatile shoe that could do everything?
I agree
Wait until Jan when Adidas Pro4 hits the market. Adidas Pro3 will be on discount. Voilà - here is your super trainer. The best ever.
Yep
True. But for longer runs I prefer a non plated shoe. Very keen to buy the evo sl, once it launches
@@daniellangford5497 Evo SL is my next shoe, for sure.
You can find the Pro 3 in old colours for around £150 - I think it’s hard to justify super trainers when last years super shoes are cheaper on discount.
@vincewarne228 Fully agree. Except Superblast and Adidas Prime X, the rest of the super trainers are nonsense in my opinion. And maybe Saucony Speed but only if you get it on discount. Its original price makes no sense. Pro 3 so much better shoe.@@vincewarne228
It seems underwhelming, Chris, considering the alternatives. Thanks for another great review.
Gonna vs video coming
It’s looks a bit rough, as in cheaply made.
It’s Nike so it’s as expected
Was thinking about this as a possible return to the Swoosh … then you bring up all those other great shoes.🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
It's always tough to choose between such iconic options! The Swoosh definitely has some stiff competition out there.
@@FordyRuns Agreed. …and then there’s that new Adidas Evo SL also.
Nike running is lacking behind Adidas and other brands in all ways... They finally decided to catch up in 2024 and start making shoes for ordinary runners. Expecting Zoomfly 6 is much better than 5 as Zoomfly 5is probably one of the worst running shoes I've ever had, at least they remove the suction cup design at the bottom and stop using rubbish... literally...scraped ZoomX foam... Hard to believe a billion dollar company can come up with that idea in midsoles foams.
It's definitely been a wild ride with Nike's running shoes. Let's hope they take feedback seriously and deliver something truly impressive with the Zoomfly 6!
@@FordyRuns It looks like they are going to at least put more effort in non elite runners, briefly tried on the Vomero Plus, they are really good (Superblast level good), looking forward to it.
Excellent information. Like to Fordy. A nice weekend for everyone.
Thanks, you too!
Don’t like that black colour way. It kind of looks tacky and sticky.
its a nike so as expected
the quality of the shoe look very cheap
its not great but its nike
What a dreadful colourway though Chris!
🤣🤣🤣 I don’t mind it too much tbh
22mil surely in no time
Prob be 40 next week
155 Pounds!!! I weight 115!
?
@@FordyRuns it was a joke, American vs British terms
Never buy a shoe that has it's performance intentionally held back by the manufacturer. Everybody now knows that Nike intentionally turned the Zoom fly series into a dogsh!t shoe so that Nike fans would train and race in Vaporflys.
You’re absolutely right! It’s frustrating when manufacturers hold back performance. We deserve the best from our gear!
When you say improvement over previous shoe means in Germany it's 💩.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Didn't get the flames colorway? 😂
Looks like the flames are too hot to handle! Maybe they need to cool down before the next drop!
Zoom fly 5 was mile above every other super trainer it was an amazing shoe
I’m glad it worked for you
You need to lay-off the crack pipe 😂
Nike can't afford another disaster
Nike hasn’t had a single “disaster” only crappy runners with bad form dont like Nike
Exactly!
@@ATREU850 Nike would disagree with you and Nike stockholders would say the performance of the stock over the last several years has been a 'disaster'. Before the CEO resigned last month he conceded (his words) "they underinvested (and innovated) in the running category in favor of lifestyle & basketball". Elliott Hill, the new CEO recently told stock analysts that Nike is diving headfirst into its running “comeback". Nike does not argue that the products (overall & in general) have not served the running community well - that's Nike's view of themselves.
Wow, that looks like complete junk
looks can be decieving
That’s one ugly looking shoe
Like a first prototype 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Looks are subjective. I actually like them.
@@ulipeterson6112I have to agree. Looks actually quite nice.
It’s like the Emperor’s New Clothes…
Fordy can we pls stop using term " super trainer " - it is so annoying
What should i use? Over priced crap? How that work?
@@FordyRunsdefenetly that be more accurate 😅😂😂
There is simply no reason to buy Nike in 2024.
100% agree.
lots better out there
Facts
You thought it looks good? I think this is the ugliest Nike for ages.
Fair enough
@@FordyRuns I just checked the Kipchoge colorway though and that does look good. That colorway looks good on any model.