Shocking how lonely and unpopular attractive women are - I've known a few women who had major self-esteem issues due to being treated horribly by other girls all their lives to the point where they are convinced they are trash. The _Halo Effect_ is a double edged sword.
I hve divorced ALL of my Christian female friends...they use the prayer list like a gossip list...denigration of the other is the first step in genocide. Nietche warned us...never trust those prone to punishment...
and to that, you have to add mothers doing most DV on children, doing most SA and grape on men and boys(mtp SA), and most false accuses, other than half DV and IPV.
Women bullying other women is internalized misogyny and they learned it from men. So women bullying women is mens fault. Sounds ridiculous, but I've been told this numerous times.
@@aMessIam1 Well, if the majority thinks my compliment wasn't deserved you would subjectively be right. If the majority thinks my compliment was deserved, you would subjectively be wrong. From my perspective it was deserved, so out on the UA-cam it was sendt.
I have a daughter and a neighbor girl is in middle school. The way that they can befriend you, pretend to be your friend and then tell rumor lies to people about you all while still smiling is truly astonishing. I must have totally ignored all of this while it was happening when I was in school.
I (male, he /his) was in a girls class. I truly was shocked how mean these cute girls could be - and they were rather nice girls from stable and loving families, mostly. And still they could say the meanest things just for a cheap laugh.
@@kthxpls actually, I wasn't being serious about it. I hate that pronouns shit myself. Being "sarcastic" is my way of dealing with it. It Was supposed to look ridiculous, not to be taken serious.. 🤷
@@Kingcobra6699 Well your statement sounded too real towards the later half which means that the first half is taken along into seriousness as well. Just work on your sarcasm, you'll get there.
Before I retired, I watched the majority of middle management switch from older men to middle aged women. All I can say is, if you didn't like the patriarchy, just wait until you meet the matriarchy.
I was thinking about that this morning. Some of my past corporate jobs are now non productive and now completely controlled and managed by boss women. Narcissistic Jezebel spirt has consumed our society. Feminized men have destroyed what’s left
57 year old man here very few women in my life have ever shown empathy I've had more empathy from my male friends than I have ever had from a woman including my ex-wife
Sorry to hear that ♥️ I think a lot of women don’t realize how much their love can transform a person’s life. Unfortunately, they resort to resentment and bickering. Hope you find good women in your life someday 🙏🏻
You can’t ask or want the care… I know it’s very sad. However if you focus on your manly powers of body and posture and presence you’ll find many women become affectionate 🤗 however it’s only a response to your stronger cave man self. That said women in 3rd world countries SOMETIMES (not always) cherish being nurturing. Ultra different vibes-
Women are incapable of love. They tell you to share with them what's on your mind, or what is troubling you. But not because they want to help you. They just see you as vulnerable and think it is a good opportunity to trick you into sharing information they can use for gossip
Yes of course. But the poster of the video want us to believe "women are more empathetic" ! I say BULL SHIT. Women are heartless creatures and only care about themselves.
I learned early in life that someone who gossips about others will gossip about me too. So, I'm very cautious about what I say to gossips and I socially avoid them.
Saying that women have more emotional intelligence is, in my experince, inacurate. Being better at reading social cues does not make you more emotionally cognicent.
I think because women don't speak plainly they have had to develop these types of interpersonal skills to understand each other as referenced in the Mean Girls clip. Men tend to speak plainly so don't need to develop these skills to the same degree
@@MrPhixdIt Schroedinger feminism. A women is both empowered and a victim until the women decides what state serves her more. Women will not have any posture until they know what posture will give them clout.
This is a totally underrated comment. I had a great career and worked with thousands of people, half of them women. All the problems I experienced involved women playing the victim or needing some kind of special care and attention. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.
I remember a few girls saying this when I was in an English class in junior high school in ‘78/‘79 and I think it’s to my credit that I didn’t have an opinion, at the time… I mean, it struck me as a pretty big claim, I wasn’t about to agree, but I couldn’t disagree with confidence either…because I knew I was ignorant, and objective enough to admit it. It just struck me as strange that they could “know” such a thing, and with such confidence!
Lately I've been getting frustrated by the blindness around toxic femininity. Not necessarily because women are more toxic than men, but if we don't address problems they wont' get fixed. Problem behaviors shouldn't be protected. No one is above criticism. Both men and women should be able to own up to their flaws and try to improve. Instead we just hide women's problems like they don't exist. It's tiresome. Come to think of it, I was reluctant to click on this video. So many female youtubers seem to be so neurotic and manipulative. It's refreshing to see someone able to put the overwhelming negative emotions aside for a moment and talk sense. Thanks.
But expecting women to "own up" is laughable... sad yes, but laughable. I'm not saying they don't have the capacity for it, they do change 👍 but from my experience those are the rarest exceptions and that will stay like that 😢
it`s easier to hide your flaws when you`re the desired sex. Because the nature of relationships is attending to her needs and the nature of society is to teach her how to be in a relationship.
@@hasensaurus The problem is that the scale of this dynamic is way off balance. It used to be that a husband or boyfriend would meet most of a women's needs. Now women feel entitled to forcing BILLIONS of men meet their needs bringing nothing in return.
"men bad, unga bunga." ...yes, and women can be _just_ as bad, if not _worse,_ owing to how *theirs* is less likely to end up with telltale signs like bruising.
😢 😂just like masculinity the way it was considered by toxic fems redundant to say toxic before masculinity..thankyou for saying toxic before feminist....❤. It's not enough to say it's toxic. It's brainwashed co-opted self-harming and humiliating to a dangerous level. I'm embarrassed to be female rn. How awful that is..
I'm of the opinion that feminism, in general, is toxic. There are feminists that speak out about these toxic traits, but they, like Paglia, end up on the margins of the movement.
Here's a perspective: I'm a veteran with PTSD. I also served as a first responder, and burned myself out. Compassion fatigue. Lack of purpose, and more I haven't mentioned. Dark times. I got a female therapist who suggested that there is a "toxic" environment in the military, and she wanted me to express my emotions. I didn't know what she was getting at, and she kept insisting that I just open up and cry. My next therapist was male, and a marine. We identified that I put the responsibility of everyone else on myself, and worked on anxiety management. I started to identify codependent behaviors, and relate that to my addict parents. You know... actual progress. On my own, I sought to be more assertive through looking for masculine mentors, but no one really stood out as viable. Eventually, I found help in women's assertiveness training, accepting that not everyone's problems are my problems. Even the parts about gender expectations spoke to me, because the idea of the expendable man is not too different to the expectation on women to serve, and I was deeply rooted in the idea that I should be expendable. Everything about it seemed to relate to my issues. I'm also extremely empathetic. The point is that a feminist therapist wanted to treat a man through the lens of a modern feminist, but she might have actually done her job if she had treated me the same as she would have treated a woman, at least, in my case.
Thanks for the perspective! It resonates a lot. I really like when we can understand each gender's equivalent issues. Expendable man and women who serve is very interesting. As a man I have been put in position of leadership, even when I didn't necessarily wanted to. When I see the lack of leadership and emgagement in a group I try to fix the issues I see and it often comes at the expense of my peace of mind.
I can see your point. However, personally, I think it needn't be an issue to accept the fact that one is, indeed, expendable, and more so, due to the tendency to consume irresponsively, unnecessarily, even a burden to the very ecosystem we are relying on to survive as a species. In other words, not only does no one care if you or I or whomever wouldn't exist anymore, in the long run, but the environment the others live in would probably benefit a tiny bit, if you can believe it. That's hard to swallow, but it shouldn't hurt anyone's feelings. If anything, it should be taken as a means to humble oneself. To find joy, freedom and inner peace by reading to one's heart's content and shed the weight of an illusion of responsibility. There is nothing the world expects from us, we are free to be happy if we want to, and if that's a desireable outcome, we had best set our minds to it as our mission in this short life, that means everything to us and very little to anyone else.
My wife works in HR and was talking about the fights at work that she had to deal with. I asked her if the fights were male-male, male-female, female-female or a mix of them. She said they were 100% female-female.
Did you hear about the feminist strike in Europe, where the women all (or vast majority if we're being particular) stayed home from work. Productivity INCREASED because less drama, zero reports to HR that needed dealing with, and everyone just got on with it for a change?
So thats y the soyboys always are rejected by the feminine where they always have a deep admiration for destructive males that put them in a lower status and abuse them.
Ever notice how women will try to stop or distract you from trying to fix something? Almost as if they get enjoyment from watching you mess up or ruin the project.
Thank you for recognizing this for what it is. In an online forum last year, I responded to a post about toxic masculinity and responded with "Toxic masculinity exists, just as toxic femininity does." The pushback I received was extreme, incendiary and borderline abusive.
@@mariebussinger6565A coin actually has THREE sides, counting the edge, which has overview of the two other sides. The edge is (at best) unbiased towards the other sides.
What's funny is that the people who object the most strongly are usually the ones who believe that femininity is a social construct created by the patriarchy for nefarious purposes. They keep flip-flopping back and forth between "it's a social construct" and "you're not allowed to criticize it" based on which one is currently more advantageous. 🙄
You probably had to specify "hey, it's not like ___inity is inherently toxic, that's why we have to have a descriptor for it..." like I've had to do when discussing toxic masculinity with men. Guess we're not so different after all, huh? Toxic gender roles are like the patriarchy--they existed before us all and they hurt everyone.
@@WynneL "Patriarchy hurts everyone" is another way of saying "I don't hate men, but I blame them--and only them--for everything bad that's ever happened in the world." Which is a self-contradicting statement.
I'm so glad more women are calling this out publicly. Only women calling out other women can fix this in a truly productive way. If men have to fix this, a form of hell will unfold, and the longer this continues, the more likely that men will take this on.
True, but guys need to stop behaving like weak simps that happy go along with this toxic femininity. If guys learn that these women are predators not the prey, then you will find that alot of these women will slowly stop behaving like this. Besides we need stop calling ourselves incels, we just dont want be associated with these women.
I learned a long time ago that women police other women. Men cannot. We just cannot. Moliere wrote a play about this call The School for Women. It is funny, but is true in the sense men are unable to control women.
You know how men have fixed this for thousands of years in society? Patriarchy. And not the kind of patriarchy that women think exist in the western world right now. The ACTUAL patriarchy that exists in the middle east right now. And that existed in Europe during Christian times. Religion has been used forever to shamewomen and teach them that their role in society is to shut up, get married, have kids, and raise them.
And what's the result? Thousands of men, men who in their own words have experienced toxic femininity, men who believe they are victims of it, disadvantaged by it, had their rights stripped by it plus million variations of the above. Men who tell feminist women at every every opportunity that no one ever listens to them or care about their pain and suffering. After watching a video which was so well and carefully done, was entirely focused on negative female behaviors which she clearly tried to describe in ways other women would relate without a single negative comment about men. Thousands of men almost in perfect unison having to point out that women don't have the emotional intelligence that men do, some women don't have any intelligence at all. The vast majority of you have demonstrated on masse that some men and women are equally shit when it comes to emotional intelligence. You can't change negative behavior or traits in others (male or female) by mirroring the same behavior. All the effort Roni put in to this video and hope that it may help some girls/women develop positive traits earlier resulting in less toxic femininity, that might be good for all us men, I mean I'm guessing it must be because its normally all you talk about, You'll never know how many women and girls might have watched this video then saw 5000+ men rip into it and go on to compete with each other describing how shit females are at everything compared us men so obviously they cause the all problems. Every female left with a reinforced negative view of men and an even stronger belief that men actually hate women from the 5000+ examples. Be sure and give yourselves a kick in the teeth before you head back to the Whatever podcast, nothing beats the "choose your own confirmation bias" you get to pick over there.
My sister is a lawyer in a government dept. and she tells me she only employs guys in her team. She says they just shut up and work and don't cause drama. With women she said she spent half her time dealing with their in-fights.
it's not a male vs female issue, it's a culture issue many countries with robust social and political structures and safety nets don't have these problems everything is polarized to an extreme, centrism and moderation has been squeezed into subjugated silence
@@Potent_Techmology Bull...shit... I am Europeran (I suppose those are the countries you were referring to, right? Not North Korea or Cuba?) and it absolutely happens. It is female nature, nothing to do with the economy... I'm pretty sure it was also going on during the Cultural Revolution...
So, the result of her claiming she can't employ females because they will cause drama, she avoids hiring females, and thus, she avoids competition. Interesting.
Speaking from experiences as a dude, trust me you don't wanna get bullied by women, cuz the trauma stays for ever When they don't fear you physically like your female family members and gf, they attack you mentally, nagging non-stop When they fear you physically, they usually against you a group, talk bad behind you, destroy your reputation while leave no evidence, then you will realize how powerless you are when you mess with them
@@Bennie_x Getting physically abused can lead to that. Your comment saying "bullying" is only defending the behavior of women that would lie about it as continued forms of reputation destruction in an attempt to harm their victim. You're also ignoring the lives lost to self deletion by men from your overly echoed narrative as those toxic women play victim weaponizing the statistically smallest portion of abuse cases in an apex fallacy.
I work in a large factory that was mostly male workers. 5 years ago, there was a drive to have 50 percent of workforce female. Today there is always fighting between the women to the point that no two women are allocated to work together. There is also very high absenteeism nowadays
For those who dont get why "femme fatale" is toxic and evil - it is equivalent of aggreaive juvie or young man that likes to destroy stuff, bully and beat others just because it makes him feel powerfull - destroying things is fun.
Yeah? Which ones are being exploited? Which ones aren't being handed large sums of cash? When you behave reductively towards women like this, you essentially say they have no agency. This is just another form of simping, making sure nothing is a woman's fault. Which is how we got here in the first place.
It is their responsibility to face their conditioning by the devouring mother and transform that before they enter any relationship they assess as potentially long term. Same goes for women with parental trauma. I feel for the traumatized but they are accountable for their experiences. They chose this. Now let's make it count instead of crying like babies. You got me.
Thank You! This video is a fountain of knowledge that is free to the public which springs forth ideas that are so interesting and proper to address in our modern societies! How noble of you all to elucidate the public on such matters! Thanks again for the Wisdom!
Women aren’t more emotionally intelligent, they are more emotionally reactive. Emotional intelligence is the ability to recognise and process feelings in a healthy way. Just because you experience a larger fluctuation of changes daily does not equate to intelligently handling them.
At some point in human life men want to protect and provide and women want to provide sex for provision and protection (generally at the same age both sexes). Since males their age dont have attractive amount of provision and protection they find older males more attractive. Then older men who naturally are more attracted to youth of course take advantage of the situation, and women get into their heads just because they are with someone more mature, that that automatically makes them mature. That is the only reason there is myth women "grow up" earlier. Its feminist bs. Just because you are attracted to older people, does not make you adult, grown up or developed...
they're emotionally driven. it's the main difference between men and women is a default to rational problem solving for men and emotional for women. Emotional Intelligence is a learned skill we all start with no experience in.
@@Esperanzo77nope, they are just more social. The majority of smart people are male. It’s nice if you can socialise. It’s something different to do something intelligent socially.
imo there is no real difference in total emotional intelligence, it's just that day to day civilian life tends to favor female style emotion and socialising rather than male, particularly when everything is saturated with feminism. Put a woman in a warzone or a coal mine or, erm, needing to remove a spider, and watch that emotional intelligence crumble. It all goes down the drain when the emotional needs include stoicism, problem solving under high stress and overcoming cowardice as well as the right spirit of cooperation. These are all emotional skills that men are much better at than women.
This is eye opening. A girl who uses her sexuality to manipulate people is no less antisocial than a guy who throws a punch, though she can be far more powerful if attractive
The amount of mythology around this is insane... Obviously the Babylon whore is the most famous one, but no less significant is the lady of pondweed, a Japanese folk tale about a woman (who later turned out to be a fox) seducing the emperor of Japan (A real historical figure, not a made up emperor, although I forget which one) and slowly draining his life force, making him sick and killing him. The interesting thing about Tamamo no Mae, is that the Japanese syncretise her with other similar myths in China and India, saying that it's the same woman, Tamamo no Mae doing it. It's the homewrecker archetype, someone who spends their life fucking up marriages.
I think it's a bit different, because it's not like the people she's manipulating are physically incapable of making decisions in her presence (if that is what you're saying then that seems a bit sexist against men, honestly). I think it's more on par with men who manipulate by lying and toying with people's emotions (disingenuous flattery, etc)
I maintain it's not the same because you do have *some* control whether to resist the temptation of a seductive woman, but you likely have little control over avoiding a punch. Furthermore, a femme fatal may not do a whole lot of actual harm depending on what it is she's after (a free drink? a job? to wreck someone's family? There are levels..), whereas a punch definitely does physical harm. I'd put it on the same level as people who sell addictive and harmful substances, or people who are maliciously manipulative in other ways like flattery and fake friendship.
My ex-wife demonstrated 3 of these toxic womanistic behaviors. 25 years after our divorce I am still shuddered by her. She has destroyed lives and left one husband dead in her wake.
Mines doing most of this behaviour as we speak, really quite unbelievable, and shocking. I do not recognise her after 25 years of thinking I know her, its really so distractive on everyone especially me and my young son, he is shocked by his mothers behaviour
Messed up part is most feminists know men aren’t allowed to call them out on it. Even pop culture backs up this behavior. Thankfully, there are enough women who see thru this garbage and call them out. Unfortunately, they’ll be accused of “policing” other womens behavior 🙄
It’s a good thing this video came out. A few years ago if anyone asked the question of if toxic femininity exists to parallel toxic masculinity, people would scoff and say it either doesn’t or if it does it’s the conservative pick me girls who align themselves with toxic males. But I knew that sounded like a misdirection Toto shut down the conversation because I’ve dealt with so many toxic women (including my own mother) that weaponize being oppressed and weak and beautiful to their advantage but refuse to take accountability for it. And the fact that these types of psychos are influencing other impressionable young women to become parasites like them is awful. I’ve been shamed for not showing off my body, sleeping around and being monogamous. And I’ve been shamed for empathizing with men because I have healthy male figures in my life. I’ve also been bullied for speaking out against trans “women” unfairly competing in women’s sports and speaking out against only fans glorification and speaking out against the idea of “believe all women” regarding the metoo movement that functions off of a dangerous and flawed model of lawless mob justice. There’s so much that’s wrong with the direction modern women are going and it’s good that the scale is starting to balance back so they don’t end up destroying society and represent all women terribly. I’m thankful that so many men still care enough to want to save their people instead of going the Afghanistan route and oppressing their women to the point where their livestock are treated better. Because that right there is real oppression. The liberty that western women have is not unequal.
@@mochalotte4702 Wow I didn't know women like you existed. I'm a man and the reason I had to click on this video was because it seemed like a rare instance in which my main problem with modern feminism. I mean I hear about feminists clashing over issues, but when I hear feminists themselves even if they are talking about society at large, it is always directed at me. Like it's my fault that some dudes were rude to them on the subway, meanwhile I am constantly getting completely contradictory information from people who call themselves feminists. Some of them think that women should be allowed to walk around topless like men, while others think that any man who looks at a topless woman should be thrown in jail and put on a sex offender registry. Men aren't generally the ones extolling either of the values. From a battlefield perspective, it makes sense why women (well women and men) with two opposing ideas would want to team up and attack men. If women first fought amongst themselves over what feminism should be, there would only be a fraction of whichever force left to take on the men. The only thing that doesn't make sense is that after blaming men, male culture, and male dominance for everything wrong in their lives, rather than killing us all, they expect us to join them. Join who?! The godless who think prostitution should be legal, or the people who think having their breasts looked at is a deeply traumatic experience? Also, no not every man on the planet is at fault for what happened on the subway, men never agreed as a "culture" on ANYTHING let alone the approval of what some guy did back when I was 4! Anyway, I don't want to join a group of people who think it is more important that they are called feminists and can use feminist iconography (which admittedly is pretty cool with the fist in the female symbol) than it is that they address their only true public outspoken opposition. Look I'm not against siding with feminists, not at all. But in order for me to take any feminist seriously, they have to be very hard anti-feminist. I guess that was a lot of text just to say that I like what you're saying. Perhaps I should post this in the main comment section instead.
My experience is a lot of women assume they are always right even when they're wrong, particularly when it comes to relationship issue's between men & women. When you as a man attempt to use facts to correct them, that's when they start throwing out the insults calling you an Incel & everything else...
Everybody is right for themselves. The problem isn't that the women think they're "right" but that the men in these scenarios try to prove them wrong by using facts and logic. Usually the problem is that the hurt person has some emotional need that the other is trying to negate with cold facts and logic. And since more often than not men are thought that facts and logic are everything they are the ones trying to destroy the opponent with them. The whole mess is often resolved when the two people start addressing each other's needs not who's right. Throwing insults is not nice, of course, but hurt people tend to do it especially when they think they were insulted first by being denied their needs.
@@janiefallout8 Feasible, as in easily accomplished or to be done with ease. By putting "not" in front of "feasible" I'm indicating that something is unable to be done or accomplished, in this case the "everybody is right for themselves" argument could be used to defend some horrible actions that a majority of people would find as blatantly "wrong". Infidelity, SA, and child abuse just to think of a few topics your argument could defend with a toxic mentality making the argument, all of which are wrong (no quotations there because if you actually want to defend those things you know you're in the wrong.)
I'm only 25% through the video and I had to stand up from my bed, go to my office table to watch.... this is GOLD ! You really know your stuff. Thank you.
I was so bullied by a couple of mean girls starting in junior high school and going through to my high school years that it literally scarred me for life and changed the way that I feel about and relate to women, I never learned to like other women, I do not trust them And I don't think most women are very good people that could be due to my early experiences but as I've gotten older and the more women that I have known that opinion has never changed I don't usually share my feelings towards other women with anyone because it would be seen as pretty antisocial but whenever I have spoken of how I feel with another like-minded woman I see that I am not alone in my dislike and mistrust of women. Women have a reputation of not liking each other that men seem to pick up on easily and they actually find it amusing, you know the cat fights. But I just finally realize that I like men better I like how easy-going they are and how they are much less seething and evil and manipulative
Ive never met a woman who has had lifelong friends, even one longer than a few years. Every time i see my sisters. They always have a new bestie. Ask about the one from the year before and they dont have any contact anymore
@@redrustyhill2 I had some bad fights with my friends in the past and as a guy I am even surprised we got back together as friends like the fight didn't matter much. I think when women have a verbal fight they just hold grudges forever like it is a bigger deal than it should be.
I may be reading too much into your facial expressions on this video, but I came away feeling that this video was as much a gift to yourself while being equally a great gift to everyone. In any case, your presentation came across as heartfelt and in my humble opinion made the content even more impactful. Thanks!
It's the old Yin and Yang issue which is timeless. We need balance. Stray too far to either extreme and you are gonna have a bad time. This is true with politics, sociology, parenting, etc. The west has strayed too far in the feminine direction and the pendulum is finally starting to swing back. Any masculine qualities are "toxic", we coddle kids, we go soft on criminals, we value emotions over logic, etc. I think things will get better but I'm sure we will overshoot as usual and will be talking about the opposite problem again one day.
Dear person who dismisses ethics: Whatever you do, it's now something you do. You only need to murder once to be a murderer, and you only need to lie once to be a liar. But more than that.... every act you perform is also practice for that act. If you cheat or lie, you make it easier for you to cheat and lie more often. Even if you don't get caught, even if you "win" the prize you seek, you have *become* the kind of person who does what you did to win. Also, there is always one person who witnesses your every crime, and judges you for it, even if you get away with it... that witness and judge is you. If you think you have total control over your own mind, and your own conscience, you are dead dead dead wrong. You don't pick what thoughts go into your head, or what feelings you feel. They come to you whether you want them or not. That hidden "you" is your judge, and you can never hide from it.
@@GuruOfwisdom Furthermore it's not "men", it's Chad and Tyrone. "Men" generally don't get the chance to be sluts, because they're not human to most women.
I'm a victim of a devouring mother. I became a suragate partner to my mother when i was around 11. I didn't know about any of this until it suddenly stopped when I was around 35. It messed me up in a huge way. One of the reasons I was still a virgin until I was 40. It doesn't get talked about though. 😕
@@hippityhoppitus Thats gonna be the majority of men in a decade. Its insane how many more single moms there are on Tinder compared to the early days of the app.
The parentified child is 1000% a form of child ab*se. it’s truly heartbreaking you had to endure that 😢 I’m so glad you are free now, that must feel like such a weight has been lifted. I recommend you look up @patrickteahanofficial He talks a lot about this and other forms of childhood trauma. He helped me a lot.
The topic of toxic masculinity is being shouted down so much we often forget what Toxic Femininity is. Thank you for bring up that topic. I hope that there's more subscribers to your channel.
Exactly. It's to the point now (at least here in the West), that by virtue of just simply BEING a man, is enough for us to be denigrated to the point of absurdity.
Would that my 18 year old self could have listened to this! Some of my studies in college were so imbalanced toward demonizing men and perpetuating the image of the victimized woman. This is a nuanced exploration that is the antidote to the simplistic us vs them versions of women's studies. Your care in explaining that toxic traits can being found in institutions and are not strictly inherent in one sex or the other is helpful in gaining a healthier perspective towards adopting honesty and acceptance of ourselves and each other in light of what is actually present in our behaviors and motivations. Grateful for you clarity of purpose and articulations!
Believe me, I have the same feeling! I could have spared my 18 year old self a lot of grief ☺️ Really happy you enjoyed the video! Thank you for your kind words ♥️
2:22 Gosh, women almost can't stop themselves from believing something if makes them feel good. This is what all the men responding in the comments are talking about, women aren't more emotionally intelligent, they're just more controlled by emotions
This is a very thorough examination of the female psyche, sources included and all. I watched this while bottle feeding my daughter i the middle of the night, definitely will use this to guide her and raise her well rounded 🙏 Earned youself a sub instantly
I've done my best to make my daughters see things logically and rationally. Not to use emotions and manipulation. Sometimes biology comes through regardless of what I do. My 2nd daughter though will send humanity to the stars.
....if your wife lets you. Mine didn't. I remember the same experience as you describe, bottle feeding my daughter in the middle of the night, her clear eyes looking up at me and her holding my little finger in her tiny fist for comfort. I felt such love for her then. Now I don't see her. She hates me. Her mother did that out of spite. She told me she would and she did
This is beautiful to see a real woman standing up and telling the truth. I have been telling them this for years. I also have over 1100 adult girls blocked across multiple platforms because of these types of girls you describe. It is so nice to meet a woman again.
The fact that she's also a beautiful woman to boot doesn't eggsactly hurt either. Brains, beauty AND humility? Where can I find such a creature here in the West?! 😃
Your self awareness is impressive. Your wittiness is top-notch, I smiled at the Cardi B and Megan T stallion poet references. Also points to the organization of your space and the color coordination of the bookshelf. You rock
@@Emanon...What are you, a complete fucking idiot that you genuinely believe someone who color coordinates their books are the emotional equivalent of a 5 year old? lmao 😂
Well, I'm an educational psychologist and my mind is blown as the use of psychology, Sociology, the classics, in an incredibly persuasive way. Nice work!
Ain’t that the truth 😌 Will be doing a video on the history of radical feminism at some point. Let me know if you’re interested and I’ll bump it up the queue 😊
@@ronifouks The thing is that if you are lonely, single and unattractive as a male, you are a woman hater granted today's feminist agenda. However, if you are attractive, you will be labelled a womanizer, toxic and a mansplainer. You will end up being labelled a woman hater either way. Yet if you act nice, women will disrespect you. Men can do nothing right, given the current feminist agenda it seems, and all this feels strange, really. Because if women want men with confidence, that they speak so frequently about, I think it is a really bad idea to reach that goal by putting men down in the first place! And whats more, feminists make every problem to be about women. Talk about a narcissistic ideology!
I completely agree. I think the way forward for me in this regard is to be kind, but to have clear boundaries, standards, and self-respect. Self-respect is what we all should be aiming for - not "self-esteem" or "confidence". Kindness in men isn't the problem, it's the "nice guy", wishy-washy guy who exudes insecurity. But I promise you, a healthy woman who has worked on herself will naturally gravitate towards a healthy, responsible man with strong values and a kind heart.
@@ronifouks But think about it! If confidence in men is so important for women, is talking men down really the answer? What are feminists really trying to accomplish with all their attacks on men? If you are a chad you are a narcissist, if you are a nice guy you are a loser. Maybe a more positive approach towards men could be a key, if men's attitude towards women, and insecurity is such a problem in the first place.
I disagree that women are higher than men in so called "emotional intelligence". This garbage phrase came from the feminist book, "You just don't understand me." Men have very highly tuned emotions. Were it not so, men would not be as good as we are at being able to continue to track and react to a woman's moods "on the fly". Neither could a man hunt or track, as to do these things you have to be very deeply attuned to all of your senses and your "gut" feelings to be able to sense if there is a predator in the vicinity.
Women think they are so elusive and men are dumb. When in reality most womens behavior is so reprehensible, men arent "allowed" to call it out explicitly and are then led to navigate the dynamic implicitly leading to a misunderstanding that because men arent explicit like women are, men are just dumb. Stay golden kings. We will keep navigating womens ever changing emotions without freaking out
@@BaldurGunnarsson 1000% agree in a way. Women are perceived that way because narcissism and sociopathy are more common with them, which sounds counterintuitive, but Ted Bundy, Charles Manson etc had plenty of women in love with them and had zero capacity for feeling or understanding the emotions they would twist in others, so it is not surprising that so many women can be so good at faking empathy and manipulating emotions in men when they are usually unable to think beyond their own immediate selfish desires.
Why are you so smart and self aware??? Why are there so few women like you??? Thank you for your video. All I ask of you is that do not lose touch. Stay based. Your mere presence with this knowledge and demeanour is an example and shining light for other women to follow. And… I was a cop that chuckled how I lived the Basic Instinct lifestyle and ticked it off my “career checklist”. I never heard of the analysis you gave, and you hit deep inside me real hard. You shocked and stopped me in my tracks. You revealed me as a sucker in a heartbeat. If I knew you in my 20’s and 30’s, my life would be so different. When I married 24 years ago, I had the blue uniform (chick magnet), was a pro athlete and looked like a Demi-god, I had an extensive tertiary education, I had it all. A year ago when I was blindsided, my perfect white picket fence marriage suddenly crumbled in a day. I still didn’t know why. Your video revealed how I achieved everything, I was unstoppable and untouchable, yet I was a fool to the succubus. Thanks for enlightening me and try to give me the temporary energy to start my journey new… again. 😱😳😔
@@gerardo9052 me simp?? You missed the point. Because I was a vet, all the white Karen’s call me a toxic white male. I was once invulnerable but in less than a day the local marriage councillor convinced my wife that I was some sort of serial killer on the loose. The wife always had a personality disorder (bi-polar sociopathic narcissist) and it was this video that helped me put all the warning signs together. Along with support from a bad councillor then the feminist run Family Courts, I lost my family from 24 years in a day. In retrospect I was never educated to put the signs together, should not have trusted her and if I knew better I would have promptly left her the moment I met her. She played on the fact that in Australia, all Caucasian men are considered evil, they have NO voice and the white Karen’s run everything. If you don’t believe it, it will happen to you and if you live in Australia, the only question is when.
@@gerardo9052 thanks for asking. I was young and naive, and never met a person like my ex. She is from a gypsy family and had all the warning signs listed by the OP. Back then I could not recognise the red flags. Once this sociopathic/narcissistic bitch stole everything from me she left me via email. She stole my two homes, my career, my family, my friends and all of my money. I have not seen my daughters since they were 15 which was about 8 years ago now. It’s heartbreaking how the legal system is designed to destroy the very heart and sole of every white men as they are considered enemies of the matriarchy. To top it off, the day she left me I was due to receive corrective surgery on my back to get me out of a wheelchair (injury from deployment). Narcissistic sociopaths have no empathy for you and true to her form, she took advantage of my weakened physical/mental state and has now left me isolated, lonely and homeless. She took absolutely everything including my soul.
We exist❤!! and we're not even xtians or Republicans necessarily! I definitely WON'T be voting for superfun ladyboss who fell on her head riding the mechanic bull 29 years ago at Fridays from too many slippery nipple shots.. no thanks. I'll be voting for homeboy and I'm a feminist
Roni, I really wish you received the positive comments this video deserves and that overtime more and more people, both men and women with a better understanding of the intention behind it and who it's aimed at. As you mentioned, these topics are so hard to to discuss and I just wanted you to know that amongst all the background noise in the comments it will have a positive impact which spans the divide. This was really well done, it's not often to come across someone who wants to make a real contribution towards improving things, is aware of the pitfalls and can skillfully navigate them. So many levels to this, it's earned you at least one additional subscriber
Girls, we are not thinking of you 20 years later. We forget you and love our wives deeply as we both age. That's what adults do. That is the most fulfilling path through life.
Bravo. I'm happier than ever after 29 years of marriage. It's been both rewarding and challenging. But in spite of those challenges, I would never be preoccupied with any girlfriend/relationship that I had before. I recognize them mostly as the dodged bullets that they were. Only someone supremely narcissistic would think "you married June Cleaver, but in the back of your mind, you still dream of me." No, lady, I don't.
Well done Been trying to solve female intrasexual competition for a while. Solving the male side was one of the most important and life-saving realizations I've had.
Men can build their own house, and compete with each other to build a bigger house. Women have to compete with each other to get the man who builds the house. This initial competition is attractiveness. Though it isn't everything to track a mate, many women come to the conclusion it is because of the way men approach them. That and the commercial world hammers this. Women used to learn poetry or instruments and poise to get a husband, so society has skewed this. It doesn't matter how attractive you are if you don't have any other traits. If you want to test this competition, have an attractive guy approach a group of girls and randomly select one as .ore attractive and watch the fallout. Feminists are trying to cheat the system. This is why they demand thar you accept a degree as value because they can control and have access to unlikr an immutable characteristic. This is why they try to proclaim all women are 10s or beautiful. They are trying to remove have to compete with more attractive women by removing the scale, but deep down inside, they all know. But they actually accidentally show their hand here, because they want to be accepted as beautiful, which means they know the default is attraction. Instead of claiming being a 3 is acceptable. That is why this necrosis is a problem in western countries. The women are lied to and lie about each other. There is also far more wealth to compete for. Other countries or cultures don't lie. The Asians will straight up tell someone what their flaws are. While it may seem mean at the outset, in the end it is actually more kind because that woman can work with the or around the flaw and know where she stands, instead of constantly being gaslighted. Attractive women often end up alone because they have the worst of both worlds. Unrelenting attention from men, Unrelenting resentment from women. I just have a couple of attractive features and I am still attacked by other women to the point of employment discrimination. Women will resort to character attacks and do anything to take you out. They can even be married, but you can still steal their husband so you are a threat. It never stops. There is a movie called Malena that does a great job demonstrating the nightmare of being a really attractive woman and how women actually are.
♦Yes, MEN *"oppressed" women to the point of inventing, manufacturing, fixing things for them [including their toilets and collecting their garbage], constructing for them houses /roads/bridges..etc and even *prioritizing the women over MEN in life threatening rescue situations* since the time of Adam!
@@Potencylogic no, men oppress women by raping us, beating us, murdering us and treating us like objects whose only existence is for your pleasure. Your response will no doubt include more insults hurled at females. Have you ever looked into why you have such a strong bias towards women and honestly understand where your anger comes from?
Here's the cycle, and it could start with a man or a woman, but we'll just start with a man in this example. A young naive woman is lied to and tricked by a low moral value man, when she finally learns it was all a lie she says, "fuck men, I'm going to fuck up their lives like they did to me", so she starts her femme fatale arch. Somewhere alone that arch she meets a naive decent man, but she doesn't see that, she thinks he's just in it for himself like all the others, but since he's not, she does more damage to him than any of the low ethic selfish guys. This devastates him, and when he finally recovers from it a little, he says, "fuck women, I'm going to fuck up their lives like they did to me", and he becomes a low ethics selfish guy, then one day he meets a young naive women, but he does see that, he thinks she's a low ethics selfish woman, and he plays to win but getting want he wants without giving anything real in return.. and repeat and repeat and repeat. Each broken person making several more broken people. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, and a heart for a heart makes the whole world heartless. Also look up learned helplessness and how humans are able to learn learned helplessness just by watching other people, and apply that to children of parents who didn't stick together. Notice how often neither parent takes responsibility, acting as if they were helpless to the situation, thus teaching their children, there's no way to tell if a man or a woman is a ethical person or a predatory person. "they were perfect and then they just changed out of nowhere!" kind of teaches kids there's nothing you can do, thus they either fear love too much to even try, or they set aside reasonable fears and diving in with blind faith that fate will find them true love.
Very well said. All those creators, philosophers and psychologists coming up with new terms and theories that are not relatable and make no sense at all, and you managed to sum it up perfectly in the first paragraph.
The wolves caught all the rabbits and began to howl at the moon, hungry in this inhospitable world. This is all due to extremes and immoderation of appetites.
I think you hit the nail on the head with your initial statement - the poison is in the dose. These behaviors are natural or useful in a small amount, but become toxic when taken too far. My concern (also with discussion about masculinity) is that people begin to think that any amount of behavior that is similar to the ones discussed are wrong or toxic.
Agreed. Nick Freitas has a great breakdown of this - that the same masculine qualities of aggression can be used to hurt or protect. It all depends on how we channel our energies.
Agree, both masculine and feminine have shadow aspects, I think denial just leads to suppression and projection (incidentally, both women and men can express shadow aspects of the other sex, ironically especially when they reject the opposite sex, e.g. aggressive women, or bitchy men), whereas the healthier way is awareness and integration. You can be aware of your shadow traits and consciously decide not to act on them. Also, sometimes we may need to draw on our dark side a little, for example as Roni says, aggression can be used to attack or protect.
Empathy is not the same as compassion. Psychopaths are empathetically aware of, and rewarded by, the pain they are inflicting on others. Empathy is simply the ability to imagine what others are feeling. Compassion is the ability to suffer with others, and the primary motivation to prevent the suffering of others. The psychopath is empathetic, but devoid of compassion.
Thanks. People conflating empathy, sympathy, compassion, and care; are immature. Because these same people assume of course they're qualified to expound on these apparently elementary subjects, yet won't even learn to distinguish them because of course it's common knowledge and beneath reviewing. An illustration of empathy I like is that of the predatory cat, that's really considerate of what the mouse is thinking and what the mouse might do next. Such empathy to then play with the captured mouse, keenly learning all about its decision making process and just how the mouse feels about one swipe or another. Then finally the cat visibly grieves when the mouse is all played out. The cat got to know the mouse intimately. Sympathy was so elusive, until ten years ago we chanced to _see it_ on a brain scan. The so called "mirror neurons". When a neural pattern lights up as someone performs an action, and then another viewing the action has the same pattern of neurons light up... that's _the sympathy,_ like an organ made of meat that can be poked and stimulated with probes.
I'm a victim of a toxic feminist. This helped shed light into my ex-wife's behaviors. I'm concerned for my children with her because I'm not sure which toxic feminine trait she would have. But I have seen her use and abuse her own power to try and gain control over me, albeit in a different way since she is a lesbian now. The last quotes you shared from Carl Jung struck a chord with me concerning feminity as a whole or humanity to put it in a bigger perspective. David from Disturbed wrote about, in his songs, that it takes the darkness to see the light. We are all facing duality like never before and must choose where to turn. Light or dark, but neither is the wrong choice. It's just a choice. I hope to gain some additional insight as to how to interact with my ex since she and I share children, and I must find a way to help the tension between us loosen. I will never claim to be perfect, and I will definitely stumble along the way. But thank you, Roni, for posting this. I hope this helps others the way it needs to.
I hope this video gets well over a million views, and i hope (because i dont EVER seem to see most women watch this kind of self reflective and assessing content) the women truly take what you said to heart. Everyone can learn from this, period but i hope the women find their place in what you said and all men who have experienced or been victim to this kind of treatment can recognize where it comes from and hopefully heal. I can speak only from the experience of being a man with an overbearing mother which led to being bullied and abused a lot of girls and women- if you were to say this happened to you, a lot of people wouldnt believe you because they still think lack of physical harm means harmlessness. I think this video is very well done, i hope it gets the respect and awareness it deserves.
Often times it is those wounds we cannot see that cause the most lasting damage. A busted lip is a busted lip and it will heal easily enough. But to be tore down by your peers and made to hate yourself? that lasts far longer and is a much more difficult injury to properly treat.
I don't disagree. I was at Quora and some dude was saying feminism didn't destroy anything but MGTOW did. A-hem, MGTOW exists because thanks to feminism. Feminism is a cancer.
WOW! Im only at 15:49 and I just had to psuse it to say, what an eloquent and succinct way to convey the image of the so called "Modern Femine Empowerment"! The extreme with which some are pushing and living out this twisted version of Female Sexuality feels like they're retaliating for what they perceived as Female Oppression by Toxic Masculinity for centuries. We as empathetic creatures should KNOW that 2 wrongs do not make a right (that is if one agrees with the position of female oppression in the first place). Truly the way forward is not...whatever THIS is. (This being toxic femininity) Men and Women are equal opposites, we're built differently and as such have our own unique strengths and weaknesses which should be praised and accented by each other. TY for the informative and well thought out and eloquently delivered video! You gained a subscriber here luv! ❤
I feel the sad part is.... women are not going to watch this until there is a self perpetuated reason to change. It's very rare women watch these, just men. I hope to be wrong.
@@justsomenobody889 How likely is the UA-cam algorithm to send women (the ones you're trying to reach at that) to a video including Jordan Peterson? Ok, I think everyone gets those recommendations with a fresh account. But you're going to get a ton of checking out when that comes up. He should not have been mentioned in a discussion pretty much intended to sway liberal women.
@@vangadencia yeah I used to be a huge fan of Jordan in his early days, but it is honestly a little difficult to stay a fan when I come across him basically saying that there's something wrong with me because I wanted a career more than children (I'm a nerd so I need to be researching something or else I'll die like a fish out of water). I don't think it's necessary to make weirdos like me feel like they don't have value in society just because they don't fall into the normal pattern of human behavior, so it's not surprising he's an instant turn off to some people. That said, a lot of women do still like him quite a bit because there's just so much wisdom there. But I suspect as soon as UA-cam figures out that the user is a female, the JP suggestions will disappear like you're suspecting (I wouldn't know myself though honestly since UA-cam hasn't figured out what I am 😅)
@@justsomenobody889I have exactly the same issue with Jordan Peterson, I don't dislike him or demonise him but while I think he has good insight into how a majority operate, I don't think he makes enough allowances for individuality and the fact that some women really are better off on a different path than having a family (my brain also needs to be occupied) and that they can be fulfilled and content anyway. I think the reason why so many feel the need to shame or scare women into having children is because we need them to for society to perpetuate itself, and shaming is how societal rules are enforced, but that doesn't mean these rules are right for everyone.
I always thought that women congratulating, celebrating, and feeding into the negative traits of toxic femininity of other women was a subtle form of sabotage. A way to appear helpful and supportive while undermining the value of the other woman. The problem with that train of thought is that they actually seem to believe the nonsense they're spouting. So is it that they are actually undermining other women? And that they're so trapped in their own fear of ostracization, that they're following the other lemmings off the cliff for fear of being cast out? Or is it that they've heard their own lies and those of other so often, that they actually begun to believe it themselves? Or is it just that they are so miserable themselves, they really don't care what it takes to bring everyone around them down to their level? Regardless, it's all pretty self-destructive.
I thoroughly enjoyed this. I've recently seen some of the videos from Eryn Byrd about female immaturity and the reason why matriarchies fail. I can highly recommend them, they touch on some of the same subjects as you do, and are also very deep. It's such an important message to bring forward, and I think this will be a hot subject from women like yourself to bring forward as a response to the current state of feminism; where I think there will be a natural correction to a more balanced state. The message has to be of compassion and something emotionally understandable to have full impact om the majority of women, which I'm sure you are aware of; which is also the reason why channels like yours and Eryn, is what I think will be the true movement forward as opposed to those of Just Pearly things which has a more logical and perhaps too masculine approach.
Also perly things, has a "manly language" because she is a grifter. She just repeats what she learns from mens channels, to the people that just want to hear those opinions but in a softer voice. To be precise the males that need to hear his of opinions with a girls voice. She is incapable of her own points because she doesnt understands what she is talking, she just repeats, thats why she speaks the way you say she does.
If emotional intelligence wasn't coined by feminists to give women playing field against men when confronted with rationality.... And if emotional intelligence could be separated from intelligence itself, I'd posses woodworking intelligence, business running intelligence and so on.
The other "intelligences" were invented by the "feel good corporation". Why? People could not stand being called idiot, because they cant learn mats, but "hey i can paint and play the guitar" that "must be some kind of intelligence". These abilities have nothing to do with real, iq, spacial, mat/logic, intelligence but they called them "intelligence" for the clout. I find funny how real hard scintists wanted to test intelligence in a scintific way, only for fake social sciences to take their work and fuck it up, as always, with their pseudoscience.
Google the term Emotional Intelligence is "the ability to manage both your own emotions and understand the emotions of people around you." If that is the case, IMO men has higher Emotional Intelligence than women because men can manage their emotions better... Just saying.
Hey, I agree with you. There are different forms of proficiency and talent. Calling these concepts different forms of “intelligence” is often misleading. But highly respect woodworking and business running skills. I definitely have zero woodworking skills 😅
Quite honestly, this is the clearest, most genuine, most helpful exposition on this topic I have seen. Thank you, Roni, for your research, your work to create this video and your positive femininity.
Wonderful video, thank you. I am the "eternal daughter" and now at 41 I have missed my opportunity to become a mother, and I will always be less than whole. I pray for all young women to hear more messages like these to avoid so many painful paths.
You are whole as you are. You do not need to procreate in order to gain access to a higher purpose.... Not everyone is here to find purpose in procreation, there are so many other fields of generativity in life. I wish I could actually show you the extensive purpose and fulfillment you could get outta life without breeding. You have your unique one life, cherish it!
@@voccessbg5396 I would like to believe you; I told myself something like that for most of my life. But no, I think not participating in the cycle of life makes my life incomplete. I guess I'm still whole enough, I mean perhaps we are most of us incomplete in some way. Small children die, most acorns don't grow into oaks. It's all a part of things I suppose. Your use of the word "breeding" makes me think you have been the victim of some wrongheaded modern brainwashing. Are you a "feminist"? Thank you for your reply.
Hey there! I just wanna second the other reply and say that it’s completely okay that you never had children! I am 33, and never had children by my own choice. I am very happy and fulfilled in my life, and i really truly wish the same for you. i always knew that i didn’t want kids though (even hated baby dolls, loved my Barbies tho! They were more glamorous 💅🏻😂) the only time that I really start to second-guess myself is when I think about being older and the possibility that no one will be there to care for me, which in my opinion is not a good enough reason to bring children into this world. I have my family. I have my pets. I have a fulfilling job and lots of hobbies, i date and still hope to find my husband out there. Life is great without the responsibility of children holding me back. 😎💖my question to you is were you always sure that you didn’t want or is it something that you sort of convinced yourself later in life? I understand where you’re coming from with the whole circle of life thing. I’m sure it is a very beautiful thing to be a part of and there is no substitute, but again it is not necessary for a great life. If it’s really something in your soul that you want badly, there is still time! Or maybe you could adopt? (Not the same i know but still a great thing to do!) i’m just curious as to what made you change your mind from not wanting kids to feeling like you are missing out on some thing?
@@joymrsjoy hello. No i do not abide to any ideology. I just see things for what they are. Breeding is bleeding, lets not sentimentalise normal bodily functions. It is all experience, you sign up for this or that based on personal preference but all is with the goal of consciousness expansion. That could be achieved by numerous experiences and nothing is more important or valuable. Breeding included. Cheers.
In a crisis, what seems more intelligent? 1) Throwing a tantrum, going into panic and/or lashing out at everyone and anyone around you. Or 2) Getting your emotions under control, being pragmstic and problem solve. Asking for a friend.
The feminist narrative gets dropped REAL fast when there's a crisis. There is another side to that though: Men are pretty good at detatching from their emotions. We always were, and probably always will be. But fewer and fewer learn how to REattach to them. Leading to those emotions breaking out at the worst point possible and being completely beyond control.
@@michaelt.5672 bs. It is about design. Seems like you have never been in a shock situation to see how unlikely people rise up due to their design. Thats' what I gotta tell you as someone born in the crisis.
Thank you so much for producing this very informative video! You put into words what I've been thinking for the longest time! I will be forwarding this to my daughters, sisters, and female friends. ❤
This was such a great talk. I stumbled on you by accident and I think what really struck me is. I thought the femme fatale was a woman who was just too beautiful and seductive and I didn’t really see the destructive side at least not that it was intentional. I think the femme fatale is very romanticized through Literature and definitely Hollywood.❤
I've found any time you try to bring up how 'sexy women are taking advantage of men' everyone just says your a 'jealous jaded hater', rather then having a constructive conversation about how toxic it is for society overall; this is a complex issue that CANT just be ignored, because if women are allowed to just use their femininity freely for their own personal gain at the great expense of society, and it is left unchecked, what WILL happen is history will repeat itself. and if we ask ourselves what historical society has done in the past to control this, its not pretty. so, thank you for this excellent video!
Wow I just came across your channel today, this is now one of my favorite channels. I absolutely love that you embed your sources into your videos it helps for me to do a deeper dive into the subject afterwards, thank you.
I admire the deep research that underlies this video, as well as the excellent staging, presentation, editing, and lighting, The production values are absolutely on point. Kudos all around. I have only just found your channel, but will be following going forward. Well done!
I applaud you on what you covered in this video. However, the confluence of Cellphones/ social media/ feminism ideology/ and 'me too' have blown the boundaries off women's hypergamy and relative moralism. So 'looking within for moral values' is not something modern women can do... because their values are not absolute. And without the constraints of 'the village' their search for 'better' knows no limits.
This is really brave of you to do. Agree, women are just as harmful as men. Hate to see abuse against either. It’s best to be aware, these things tend to be more or less exaggerated at points in the cycle I think. It’s obvious they’ve taken to social media more effectively than men and used it to organize. Just the season I think. I’m glad to find someone so candid, thanks.
"Emotional intelligence" is not about successfully reading and manipulating others. They are indeed champions of that, for selfish and destructive reasons.
This hits deep. There is this girl who is older than me and she knows how pretty she is. I know I have no chance. She in the beginning seemed to check me out and found very soon that I'm uninteresting. I know and am into many many different things and that slowly came out, she noticed but also notice that I am odd and different and it pushed her away. She told me everyone has her cell phone number and I kinda pretend I didn't understand what that means. I respect her still as a person and didn't look down on her and now she is put off by me. Like I'm one of those guys. I know I'm not handsome but I'm not super ugly too. I felt like I wasn't respected and each turn felt abandoned ignored and looked down on. Iv turned into that women hater and it makes me sick and sad inside. Like I let myself down and let down the girl for me that's out there.
Just understand that you hate the archetype she embodies. It can be VERY easy to lose sight of that. Honestly if you haven't, sit down and meditate on it and help realign your world view with your values.
57 year old dude here... delving into any and all info i can gather to understand whats going on for myself, discovering alot about myself, and whats going on in my relationship of 33 year marriage..and ...women in general that are in my life...stumbled across this, didnt really want to listen ... but curiosity set in... glad i watched till the end..Very well done! This young woman did her homework..thankyou... this explains alot... Keep on keepin on young lady!
"Happy Wife, Happy Life" is the saying that we've bought into here in the West. But after 30 years of marriage, I now live by: Submissive Wife, Happy Life.
How about somewhere in the middle, mate? Does your wife want to live by that description or would she prefer a different term? A reasonable and well balance wife, happy life in my opinion. Additionally, I think you and many who use the turn or phrase, misunderstand what happy means. I am not happy if I get everything I want and people kowtow to all my selfish desires. I would become lazy and entitled and would not respect the other which in the end does not satisfy me. A truly happy wife or husband is one that gets checked on their bullshit and is held accountable for various responsibilities within the household because it gives you purpose. So in the end, Happy Wife, Happy Life if it is the right kind of happy.
My daughter is the Persephone type. Totally dependent on her mother, my ex, neurotic about her appearance, traumatised by a boyfriends svere brain damage, manipulates her twin brother into helpng her. It doesn't help that she also has ADHD! I try and help by being the strong father. I listen to her and empathise, then tell her she needs to grow up! Her mother tries to fix her (endless rounds of therapy) which will never work. She needs to take more responsibility for her future, and more accountability for her actions. Now her therapist has diagnosed her trauma she can use it as an excuse for everything!
Im not a father, so what the hell do I know disclaimer, but I do think you might have more luck not telling her that she has to grow up, but helping her grow up through nudges that guide her in the right direction. Not sure how helpful it will be with the ex's influence abound, but still think it's worth sharing if it resonates. Intuition being that if she's so sheltered by her mother to the point that it makes her persephone, she would most likely turn away at any push towards something that even remotely looks like it would mean leaving the safe, childlike, naive bomb shelter that she's made her world out to be. Not to mention that in general people don't like to be told what to do, especially when it's something they are actively avoiding. So if she's persephone, don't push or tell her to grow up so overtly, but push her towards a path or events that would result in her gaining more life experience, that can help slowly eat up at that bomb shelter. If Hades' Tartarus is what underdeveloped persephones fall into when they're not ready for the world, then what I'd do is guide her so that her naivety and infantilized image of herself will erode. Something that makes her uncomfortable, so that she learns it's okay to be uncomfortable and that she'll be better for it, but not so uncomfortable that it will traumatize her fragile sensibilities and push her further into her bomb shelter. In other words, help her pursue experiences that will provide a small taste of tartarus now, and slowly inch her towards gaining more experience so that eventually she'll actually want to be independent and break out of her shelled illusion of an everlasting spring. Like persephone, someone who is not prepared for winter and only knows spring, will experience a harsh awakening that is befitting of Tartarus analogies. Good luck, good fathers who care about their children's development are doing God's work.
Also speaking from experience, I was diagnosed with ADHD as an adult, and it was pretty severe for me. I went from a F-D student university dropout working as a janitor, to going back to a better even tougher university to finish my degree and doing so with straight A's. Despite this, ADHD should never be used as an excuse for your shortcomings, failures, or to not pursue growth. ADHD is a personal obstacle to overcome, and something you should want to overcome. I could have chosen to go get help, and work on my ADHD on my own before I dropped out, but I didn't back then because of my pride, and because I liked having an excuse to rely on.
@@charliedontsurf334 seeing men (guys) discuss it, isn't the same as seeing intelligent women (gals) covering it (from a female perspective). - Whatifalthist (fan)
So glad I come across your video Roni ! Amazing work on the video , simply amazing ! If only more women were like you , we all would be in a much better world ...
I coined the term “toxic compassion” which I think has flooded the minds of many women in the modern age who obsess over spreading society’s resources too thin across a myriad of issues ranging from social programs and taxing the rich to wars overseas while utterly ignoring other important things like cost of living. I’m no scientist but I theorize not having enough children greatly contributes to it.
Yep, they need to do something with those nurturing impulses. By turning it to politics, they get to feel good about "helping those poor people" without noticeably inconveniencing themselves. I'm not saying they don't experience any negative effects from their choices. I'm saying that they don't connect the "here and now" with votes cast 8+ years ago. Anything bad now is obviously the result of "evil" or "greedy" people and not at all connected to their choices.
They also need a "religion," something to stand for and believe in. Until they find out the ideology they are supporting would subjugate them even worse.
The bullying and pettiness I have seen girls do to other girls in high school, college, workplace, and my own lady friends is really incredible.
Incredible, yes. But not evil. They save evil for their own children and the fathers of their children.
Shocking how lonely and unpopular attractive women are - I've known a few women who had major self-esteem issues due to being treated horribly by other girls all their lives to the point where they are convinced they are trash. The _Halo Effect_ is a double edged sword.
I hve divorced ALL of my Christian female friends...they use the prayer list like a gossip list...denigration of the other is the first step in genocide. Nietche warned us...never trust those prone to punishment...
and to that, you have to add mothers doing most DV on children, doing most SA and grape on men and boys(mtp SA), and most false accuses, other than half DV and IPV.
Women bullying other women is internalized misogyny and they learned it from men. So women bullying women is mens fault. Sounds ridiculous, but I've been told this numerous times.
Did not expect this level of in depth explanation of a topic so many use just for clicks. Excellent work.
Thank you! 🙏🏻♥️
Really put in the effort to go deep in this one.
Simp!! Nah sry i just had too.
@@aMessIam1 Well, if the majority thinks my compliment wasn't deserved you would subjectively be right. If the majority thinks my compliment was deserved, you would subjectively be wrong. From my perspective it was deserved, so out on the UA-cam it was sendt.
@@steffen3382 ima be like watchu got how many money you b with huh?
@@ronifouks Giggity.
Also, good vid. Subbed.
I have a daughter and a neighbor girl is in middle school. The way that they can befriend you, pretend to be your friend and then tell rumor lies to people about you all while still smiling is truly astonishing. I must have totally ignored all of this while it was happening when I was in school.
I (male, he /his) was in a girls class. I truly was shocked how mean these cute girls could be - and they were rather nice girls from stable and loving families, mostly. And still they could say the meanest things just for a cheap laugh.
@@Kingcobra6699 Do you truly have to say pronouns bro? C'mon....
@@kthxpls actually, I wasn't being serious about it. I hate that pronouns shit myself. Being "sarcastic" is my way of dealing with it. It Was supposed to look ridiculous, not to be taken serious.. 🤷
I ignored most females in school,I see through their fakeness
@@Kingcobra6699 Well your statement sounded too real towards the later half which means that the first half is taken along into seriousness as well.
Just work on your sarcasm, you'll get there.
Before I retired, I watched the majority of middle management switch from older men to middle aged women. All I can say is, if you didn't like the patriarchy, just wait until you meet the matriarchy.
Truth 😂
I was thinking about that this morning. Some of my past corporate jobs are now non productive and now completely controlled and managed by boss women. Narcissistic Jezebel spirt has consumed our society. Feminized men have destroyed what’s left
You are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
Nothing knew about this.
Most women couldn't lead spilled water downhill, nor could they lead smoke up a chimney.
57 year old man here very few women in my life have ever shown empathy I've had more empathy from my male friends than I have ever had from a woman including my ex-wife
most wives are emotionayl at age 16 and they are accepted
Sorry to hear that ♥️
I think a lot of women don’t realize how much their love can transform a person’s life. Unfortunately, they resort to resentment and bickering. Hope you find good women in your life someday 🙏🏻
You can’t ask or want the care… I know it’s very sad.
However if you focus on your manly powers of body and posture and presence you’ll find many women become affectionate 🤗 however it’s only a response to your stronger cave man self.
That said women in 3rd world countries SOMETIMES (not always) cherish being nurturing.
Ultra different vibes-
@TheBiggerPicturePodcast, that’s some very AI type of response 🙄. The best thing for him is to stay away from women, they only bring pain and agony.
Women are incapable of love. They tell you to share with them what's on your mind, or what is troubling you. But not because they want to help you. They just see you as vulnerable and think it is a good opportunity to trick you into sharing information they can use for gossip
My mother’s gossip has destroyed lives. So, most women become friends with her and help her. It’s disgusting.
Yes of course. But the poster of the video want us to believe "women are more empathetic" ! I say BULL SHIT. Women are heartless creatures and only care about themselves.
All powerful tit eh?
It's called by psychology as
'Flying Monkeys'
@@EugeneMurray-z1b Do you care to elaborate? That title sounds wild, in an interesting way. I've never heard of it.
I learned early in life that someone who gossips about others will gossip about me too. So, I'm very cautious about what I say to gossips and I socially avoid them.
Saying that women have more emotional intelligence is, in my experince, inacurate. Being better at reading social cues does not make you more emotionally cognicent.
Women are not better at reading social cues.
I think because women don't speak plainly they have had to develop these types of interpersonal skills to understand each other as referenced in the Mean Girls clip. Men tend to speak plainly so don't need to develop these skills to the same degree
@@MrPhixdIt they haven't developed those skills
@@MrPhixdItThey Purposely don't like to speak plainly, because it's harder to have plausible deniability when they are the problem.
@@MrPhixdIt
Schroedinger feminism.
A women is both empowered and a victim until the women decides what state serves her more.
Women will not have any posture until they know what posture will give them clout.
"The world would be peaceful if women ruled" - said by someone who has never been around multiple women at the same time.
This is a totally underrated comment. I had a great career and worked with thousands of people, half of them women. All the problems I experienced involved women playing the victim or needing some kind of special care and attention. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.
Also said by power-hungry women who cynically play the game.
I remember a few girls saying this when I was in an English class in junior high school in ‘78/‘79 and I think it’s to my credit that I didn’t have an opinion, at the time… I mean, it struck me as a pretty big claim, I wasn’t about to agree, but I couldn’t disagree with confidence either…because I knew I was ignorant, and objective enough to admit it. It just struck me as strange that they could “know” such a thing, and with such confidence!
Indeed, we have the data of women ruling countries and their track record in history is... even more violent 😅
I worked half a year as the only man in a office with 5 women.
The Horror, the Horror!
Lately I've been getting frustrated by the blindness around toxic femininity. Not necessarily because women are more toxic than men, but if we don't address problems they wont' get fixed. Problem behaviors shouldn't be protected.
No one is above criticism. Both men and women should be able to own up to their flaws and try to improve. Instead we just hide women's problems like they don't exist. It's tiresome.
Come to think of it, I was reluctant to click on this video. So many female youtubers seem to be so neurotic and manipulative. It's refreshing to see someone able to put the overwhelming negative emotions aside for a moment and talk sense. Thanks.
Well put
But expecting women to "own up" is laughable... sad yes, but laughable. I'm not saying they don't have the capacity for it, they do change 👍 but from my experience those are the rarest exceptions and that will stay like that 😢
it`s easier to hide your flaws when you`re the desired sex. Because the nature of relationships is attending to her needs and the nature of society is to teach her how to be in a relationship.
@@hasensaurus The problem is that the scale of this dynamic is way off balance. It used to be that a husband or boyfriend would meet most of a women's needs. Now women feel entitled to forcing BILLIONS of men meet their needs bringing nothing in return.
@@user-ge2hp3qw3j it`s a normal female community behavior which the internet made into a global community behavior.
nobody told us because the topic is being censored by toxic feminists
"men bad, unga bunga."
...yes, and women can be _just_ as bad, if not _worse,_ owing to how *theirs* is less likely to end up with telltale signs like bruising.
😢 😂just like masculinity the way it was considered by toxic fems redundant to say toxic before masculinity..thankyou for saying toxic before feminist....❤. It's not enough to say it's toxic. It's brainwashed co-opted self-harming and humiliating to a dangerous level. I'm embarrassed to be female rn. How awful that is..
Just in divorce, depression and widespread loneliness?
I'm of the opinion that feminism, in general, is toxic. There are feminists that speak out about these toxic traits, but they, like Paglia, end up on the margins of the movement.
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Here's a perspective: I'm a veteran with PTSD. I also served as a first responder, and burned myself out. Compassion fatigue. Lack of purpose, and more I haven't mentioned. Dark times. I got a female therapist who suggested that there is a "toxic" environment in the military, and she wanted me to express my emotions. I didn't know what she was getting at, and she kept insisting that I just open up and cry. My next therapist was male, and a marine. We identified that I put the responsibility of everyone else on myself, and worked on anxiety management. I started to identify codependent behaviors, and relate that to my addict parents. You know... actual progress. On my own, I sought to be more assertive through looking for masculine mentors, but no one really stood out as viable. Eventually, I found help in women's assertiveness training, accepting that not everyone's problems are my problems. Even the parts about gender expectations spoke to me, because the idea of the expendable man is not too different to the expectation on women to serve, and I was deeply rooted in the idea that I should be expendable. Everything about it seemed to relate to my issues. I'm also extremely empathetic.
The point is that a feminist therapist wanted to treat a man through the lens of a modern feminist, but she might have actually done her job if she had treated me the same as she would have treated a woman, at least, in my case.
Good point. And truth for most psychotherapists. Feminists have no place there.
Female therapists are completely incapable of helping a man, most cant even help women.
Thanks for the perspective! It resonates a lot. I really like when we can understand each gender's equivalent issues. Expendable man and women who serve is very interesting. As a man I have been put in position of leadership, even when I didn't necessarily wanted to. When I see the lack of leadership and emgagement in a group I try to fix the issues I see and it often comes at the expense of my peace of mind.
I can see your point.
However, personally, I think it needn't be an issue to accept the fact that one is, indeed, expendable, and more so, due to the tendency to consume irresponsively, unnecessarily, even a burden to the very ecosystem we are relying on to survive as a species.
In other words, not only does no one care if you or I or whomever wouldn't exist anymore, in the long run, but the environment the others live in would probably benefit a tiny bit, if you can believe it.
That's hard to swallow, but it shouldn't hurt anyone's feelings. If anything, it should be taken as a means to humble oneself. To find joy, freedom and inner peace by reading to one's heart's content and shed the weight of an illusion of responsibility. There is nothing the world expects from us, we are free to be happy if we want to, and if that's a desireable outcome, we had best set our minds to it as our mission in this short life, that means everything to us and very little to anyone else.
That is a heroic message.
My wife works in HR and was talking about the fights at work that she had to deal with. I asked her if the fights were male-male, male-female, female-female or a mix of them. She said they were 100% female-female.
Did you hear about the feminist strike in Europe, where the women all (or vast majority if we're being particular) stayed home from work. Productivity INCREASED because less drama, zero reports to HR that needed dealing with, and everyone just got on with it for a change?
@@michaelsorensen7567 Oh, so thats driving divorce rates? :3
"Women will often bond over their failures, weaknesses and shortcomings." Hence, their resentment at men fixing things.
Wow. That is deep.
So thats y the soyboys always are rejected by the feminine where they always have a deep admiration for destructive males that put them in a lower status and abuse them.
Ever notice how women will try to stop or distract you from trying to fix something? Almost as if they get enjoyment from watching you mess up or ruin the project.
That’s why I’m so glad the rise of female accountability content is surfacing…at least in the black women community online😅 It’s been fantastic.
Very insightful! That makes so much sense 🤦🏻♂️
Thank you for recognizing this for what it is. In an online forum last year, I responded to a post about toxic masculinity and responded with "Toxic masculinity exists, just as toxic femininity does." The pushback I received was extreme, incendiary and borderline abusive.
@@mariebussinger6565A coin actually has THREE sides, counting the edge, which has overview of the two other sides. The edge is (at best) unbiased towards the other sides.
What's funny is that the people who object the most strongly are usually the ones who believe that femininity is a social construct created by the patriarchy for nefarious purposes. They keep flip-flopping back and forth between "it's a social construct" and "you're not allowed to criticize it" based on which one is currently more advantageous. 🙄
Hurts them when you tell the truth.
To quote a famous line from a movie, "You can't handle the truth!"
You probably had to specify "hey, it's not like ___inity is inherently toxic, that's why we have to have a descriptor for it..." like I've had to do when discussing toxic masculinity with men. Guess we're not so different after all, huh?
Toxic gender roles are like the patriarchy--they existed before us all and they hurt everyone.
@@WynneL "Patriarchy hurts everyone" is another way of saying "I don't hate men, but I blame them--and only them--for everything bad that's ever happened in the world." Which is a self-contradicting statement.
I'm so glad more women are calling this out publicly. Only women calling out other women can fix this in a truly productive way. If men have to fix this, a form of hell will unfold, and the longer this continues, the more likely that men will take this on.
It won't fix it, she'll be called a pick me or some derogatory term for doing anything other than blaming and villifying men somehow
True, but guys need to stop behaving like weak simps that happy go along with this toxic femininity. If guys learn that these women are predators not the prey, then you will find that alot of these women will slowly stop behaving like this. Besides we need stop calling ourselves incels, we just dont want be associated with these women.
I learned a long time ago that women police other women. Men cannot. We just cannot. Moliere wrote a play about this call The School for Women. It is funny, but is true in the sense men are unable to control women.
Nah, it's biology.
You know how men have fixed this for thousands of years in society? Patriarchy. And not the kind of patriarchy that women think exist in the western world right now. The ACTUAL patriarchy that exists in the middle east right now. And that existed in Europe during Christian times. Religion has been used forever to shamewomen and teach them that their role in society is to shut up, get married, have kids, and raise them.
As the son of a single mother, who was socialized primarily with other girls and women,
I really appreciate this video.
You as a man need other men around you
finally someone is talking about TOXIC FEMININITY, not 1000000000000000000000000 times about masculinity
You'd like Alexander Grace. He talks about this all the time. Happy Wife School, as well.
@@mikeexitsAlexander Grace recently vocalized the REAL problem in modern dating
And what's the result? Thousands of men, men who in their own words have experienced toxic femininity, men who believe they are victims of it, disadvantaged by it, had their rights stripped by it plus million variations of the above. Men who tell feminist women at every every opportunity that no one ever listens to them or care about their pain and suffering.
After watching a video which was so well and carefully done, was entirely focused on negative female behaviors which she clearly tried to describe in ways other women would relate without a single negative comment about men.
Thousands of men almost in perfect unison having to point out that women don't have the emotional intelligence that men do, some women don't have any intelligence at all. The vast majority of you have demonstrated on masse that some men and women are equally shit when it comes to emotional intelligence. You can't change negative behavior or traits in others (male or female) by mirroring the same behavior.
All the effort Roni put in to this video and hope that it may help some girls/women develop positive traits earlier resulting in less toxic femininity, that might be good for all us men, I mean I'm guessing it must be because its normally all you talk about,
You'll never know how many women and girls might have watched this video then saw 5000+ men rip into it and go on to compete with each other describing how shit females are at everything compared us men so obviously they cause the all problems. Every female left with a reinforced negative view of men and an even stronger belief that men actually hate women from the 5000+ examples. Be sure and give yourselves a kick in the teeth before you head back to the Whatever podcast, nothing beats the "choose your own confirmation bias" you get to pick over there.
My sister is a lawyer in a government dept. and she tells me she only employs guys in her team. She says they just shut up and work and don't cause drama. With women she said she spent half her time dealing with their in-fights.
it's not a male vs female issue, it's a culture issue
many countries with robust social and political structures and safety nets don't have these problems
everything is polarized to an extreme, centrism and moderation has been squeezed into subjugated silence
@@Potent_Techmology Bull...shit... I am Europeran (I suppose those are the countries you were referring to, right? Not North Korea or Cuba?) and it absolutely happens. It is female nature, nothing to do with the economy... I'm pretty sure it was also going on during the Cultural Revolution...
So, the result of her claiming she can't employ females because they will cause drama, she avoids hiring females, and thus, she avoids competition. Interesting.
@@Potent_Techmology Yeah I`ve worked in romania and in germany. My wife in france and my friends in italy and united states. Everywhere is the same.
@@happystoat99 way to generalize everyone
Speaking from experiences as a dude, trust me you don't wanna get bullied by women, cuz the trauma stays for ever
When they don't fear you physically like your female family members and gf, they attack you mentally, nagging non-stop
When they fear you physically, they usually against you a group, talk bad behind you, destroy your reputation while leave no evidence, then you will realize how powerless you are when you mess with them
That is because respect does not equal fear. When someone fears you they start to hate you and that leads to disrespect
Getting bullied by women can be devastating. Had my own taste growing up.
@@ronifouks getting bullied by a man could literally be a death sentence😮💨
Yep, full spectrum dominance.
@@Bennie_x Getting physically abused can lead to that. Your comment saying "bullying" is only defending the behavior of women that would lie about it as continued forms of reputation destruction in an attempt to harm their victim. You're also ignoring the lives lost to self deletion by men from your overly echoed narrative as those toxic women play victim weaponizing the statistically smallest portion of abuse cases in an apex fallacy.
I work in a large factory that was mostly male workers. 5 years ago, there was a drive to have 50 percent of workforce female. Today there is always fighting between the women to the point that no two women are allocated to work together. There is also very high absenteeism nowadays
For those who dont get why "femme fatale" is toxic and evil - it is equivalent of aggreaive juvie or young man that likes to destroy stuff, bully and beat others just because it makes him feel powerfull - destroying things is fun.
Or put simply, just as its wrong to weaponize your fists to get what you want, you shouldn't weaponize your sexuality to get what you want.
To call porn the femme fatal is a bit wrong though given that a lot of women are being exploited as opposed to them exploiting men
@@fnffnchfhc154 That may be, but it is still the same underlying effect: a woman's sex appeal being used to exploit men.
That IS actually true...I don't see men caring enough to give up porn for the sake of women's well-being. Its ironic.@@fnffnchfhc154
Yeah? Which ones are being exploited? Which ones aren't being handed large sums of cash?
When you behave reductively towards women like this, you essentially say they have no agency. This is just another form of simping, making sure nothing is a woman's fault. Which is how we got here in the first place.
Many men grow up and leave their devouring mother and marry a devouring wife.
From the frying pan to the flames.
Yes. Controlling narcasistic mommas is the only love they know. The brainwashing starts at birth.
Primus sucks!
@@welkijken oh yeah....... ;-)
It is their responsibility to face their conditioning by the devouring mother and transform that before they enter any relationship they assess as potentially long term. Same goes for women with parental trauma. I feel for the traumatized but they are accountable for their experiences. They chose this. Now let's make it count instead of crying like babies. You got me.
The dude who threw a punch can be held accountable by another dude.
And real quick
What?
@@skyWalk02470 because he's a dude. You're a dude. I'm a dude. She's a dude we're all dude
Whoa dude... a dude is a boil on a horses ass.
@@matthewatwood8641 dudeception dude.
Thank You! This video is a fountain of knowledge that is free to the public which springs forth ideas that are so interesting and proper to address in our modern societies! How noble of you all to elucidate the public on such matters! Thanks again for the Wisdom!
Women aren’t more emotionally intelligent, they are more emotionally reactive. Emotional intelligence is the ability to recognise and process feelings in a healthy way. Just because you experience a larger fluctuation of changes daily does not equate to intelligently handling them.
At some point in human life men want to protect and provide and women want to provide sex for provision and protection (generally at the same age both sexes).
Since males their age dont have attractive amount of provision and protection they find older males more attractive. Then older men who naturally are more attracted to youth of course take advantage of the situation, and women get into their heads just because they are with someone more mature, that that automatically makes them mature.
That is the only reason there is myth women "grow up" earlier. Its feminist bs. Just because you are attracted to older people, does not make you adult, grown up or developed...
I think the correct word should be "socially intelligent"
they're emotionally driven. it's the main difference between men and women is a default to rational problem solving for men and emotional for women. Emotional Intelligence is a learned skill we all start with no experience in.
@@Esperanzo77nope, they are just more social. The majority of smart people are male. It’s nice if you can socialise. It’s something different to do something intelligent socially.
imo there is no real difference in total emotional intelligence, it's just that day to day civilian life tends to favor female style emotion and socialising rather than male, particularly when everything is saturated with feminism.
Put a woman in a warzone or a coal mine or, erm, needing to remove a spider, and watch that emotional intelligence crumble. It all goes down the drain when the emotional needs include stoicism, problem solving under high stress and overcoming cowardice as well as the right spirit of cooperation. These are all emotional skills that men are much better at than women.
This is eye opening. A girl who uses her sexuality to manipulate people is no less antisocial than a guy who throws a punch, though she can be far more powerful if attractive
The amount of mythology around this is insane...
Obviously the Babylon whore is the most famous one, but no less significant is the lady of pondweed, a Japanese folk tale about a woman (who later turned out to be a fox) seducing the emperor of Japan (A real historical figure, not a made up emperor, although I forget which one) and slowly draining his life force, making him sick and killing him.
The interesting thing about Tamamo no Mae, is that the Japanese syncretise her with other similar myths in China and India, saying that it's the same woman, Tamamo no Mae doing it. It's the homewrecker archetype, someone who spends their life fucking up marriages.
I think it's a bit different, because it's not like the people she's manipulating are physically incapable of making decisions in her presence (if that is what you're saying then that seems a bit sexist against men, honestly). I think it's more on par with men who manipulate by lying and toying with people's emotions (disingenuous flattery, etc)
The femme fatale will cause men to fight each other.
I maintain it's not the same because you do have *some* control whether to resist the temptation of a seductive woman, but you likely have little control over avoiding a punch. Furthermore, a femme fatal may not do a whole lot of actual harm depending on what it is she's after (a free drink? a job? to wreck someone's family? There are levels..), whereas a punch definitely does physical harm.
I'd put it on the same level as people who sell addictive and harmful substances, or people who are maliciously manipulative in other ways like flattery and fake friendship.
Yeah but the youthful beauty has a very short shelf life.
There has been a lot of effort this young lady has put into making this content available. Good job!
Wow, thank you! 🙏🏻♥️
The bare minimum.
I think she's reading out her thesis from her degree
Thank you Roni. This is nice clarity; it is helping in me this moment to finally put an end to a 'fun' but misguided relationship.
My ex-wife demonstrated 3 of these toxic womanistic behaviors. 25 years after our divorce I am still shuddered by her. She has destroyed lives and left one husband dead in her wake.
Glad she's in the rear-view mirror, I'll bet..
Mines doing most of this behaviour as we speak, really quite unbelievable, and shocking. I do not recognise her after 25 years of thinking I know her, its really so distractive on everyone especially me and my young son, he is shocked by his mothers behaviour
NPD
It all comes back around, I've watched it. It may take a long time, and it will wait for the perfect moment to bring the karma to bear.
@@kengaroo5170 Acronyms cause misunderstandings. What does "NPD" stand for?
Messed up part is most feminists know men aren’t allowed to call them out on it. Even pop culture backs up this behavior. Thankfully, there are enough women who see thru this garbage and call them out. Unfortunately, they’ll be accused of “policing” other womens behavior 🙄
Unfortunately those women get called "pick me(s)"
@@MarcoFAlfaro Which is the standard way that W's bul lee each other.
It’s a good thing this video came out. A few years ago if anyone asked the question of if toxic femininity exists to parallel toxic masculinity, people would scoff and say it either doesn’t or if it does it’s the conservative pick me girls who align themselves with toxic males.
But I knew that sounded like a misdirection Toto shut down the conversation because I’ve dealt with so many toxic women (including my own mother) that weaponize being oppressed and weak and beautiful to their advantage but refuse to take accountability for it.
And the fact that these types of psychos are influencing other impressionable young women to become parasites like them is awful. I’ve been shamed for not showing off my body, sleeping around and being monogamous. And I’ve been shamed for empathizing with men because I have healthy male figures in my life. I’ve also been bullied for speaking out against trans “women” unfairly competing in women’s sports and speaking out against only fans glorification and speaking out against the idea of “believe all women” regarding the metoo movement that functions off of a dangerous and flawed model of lawless mob justice.
There’s so much that’s wrong with the direction modern women are going and it’s good that the scale is starting to balance back so they don’t end up destroying society and represent all women terribly. I’m thankful that so many men still care enough to want to save their people instead of going the Afghanistan route and oppressing their women to the point where their livestock are treated better. Because that right there is real oppression. The liberty that western women have is not unequal.
@@mochalotte4702 Wow I didn't know women like you existed. I'm a man and the reason I had to click on this video was because it seemed like a rare instance in which my main problem with modern feminism. I mean I hear about feminists clashing over issues, but when I hear feminists themselves even if they are talking about society at large, it is always directed at me. Like it's my fault that some dudes were rude to them on the subway, meanwhile I am constantly getting completely contradictory information from people who call themselves feminists. Some of them think that women should be allowed to walk around topless like men, while others think that any man who looks at a topless woman should be thrown in jail and put on a sex offender registry. Men aren't generally the ones extolling either of the values.
From a battlefield perspective, it makes sense why women (well women and men) with two opposing ideas would want to team up and attack men. If women first fought amongst themselves over what feminism should be, there would only be a fraction of whichever force left to take on the men. The only thing that doesn't make sense is that after blaming men, male culture, and male dominance for everything wrong in their lives, rather than killing us all, they expect us to join them. Join who?! The godless who think prostitution should be legal, or the people who think having their breasts looked at is a deeply traumatic experience? Also, no not every man on the planet is at fault for what happened on the subway, men never agreed as a "culture" on ANYTHING let alone the approval of what some guy did back when I was 4!
Anyway, I don't want to join a group of people who think it is more important that they are called feminists and can use feminist iconography (which admittedly is pretty cool with the fist in the female symbol) than it is that they address their only true public outspoken opposition.
Look I'm not against siding with feminists, not at all. But in order for me to take any feminist seriously, they have to be very hard anti-feminist.
I guess that was a lot of text just to say that I like what you're saying. Perhaps I should post this in the main comment section instead.
@@MarcoFAlfaroliterally.
My experience is a lot of women assume they are always right even when they're wrong, particularly when it comes to relationship issue's between men & women. When you as a man attempt to use facts to correct them, that's when they start throwing out the insults calling you an Incel & everything else...
Everybody is right for themselves. The problem isn't that the women think they're "right" but that the men in these scenarios try to prove them wrong by using facts and logic. Usually the problem is that the hurt person has some emotional need that the other is trying to negate with cold facts and logic. And since more often than not men are thought that facts and logic are everything they are the ones trying to destroy the opponent with them. The whole mess is often resolved when the two people start addressing each other's needs not who's right. Throwing insults is not nice, of course, but hurt people tend to do it especially when they think they were insulted first by being denied their needs.
@@janiefallout8 Not every situation is feasible for "everybody is right for themselves", especially in relationships regardless of the dynamic.
@@janiefallout8 aaand yeah exemplary example there
@@JustChillin-el9wt What do you mean by “feasible“?
@@janiefallout8 Feasible, as in easily accomplished or to be done with ease.
By putting "not" in front of "feasible" I'm indicating that something is unable to be done or accomplished, in this case the "everybody is right for themselves" argument could be used to defend some horrible actions that a majority of people would find as blatantly "wrong". Infidelity, SA, and child abuse just to think of a few topics your argument could defend with a toxic mentality making the argument, all of which are wrong (no quotations there because if you actually want to defend those things you know you're in the wrong.)
I'm only 25% through the video and I had to stand up from my bed, go to my office table to watch.... this is GOLD ! You really know your stuff. Thank you.
I was so bullied by a couple of mean girls starting in junior high school and going through to my high school years that it literally scarred me for life and changed the way that I feel about and relate to women, I never learned to like other women, I do not trust them And I don't think most women are very good people that could be due to my early experiences but as I've gotten older and the more women that I have known that opinion has never changed I don't usually share my feelings towards other women with anyone because it would be seen as pretty antisocial but whenever I have spoken of how I feel with another like-minded woman I see that I am not alone in my dislike and mistrust of women. Women have a reputation of not liking each other that men seem to pick up on easily and they actually find it amusing, you know the cat fights. But I just finally realize that I like men better I like how easy-going they are and how they are much less seething and evil and manipulative
So true. I’ve been there! Most of my female friends today are a bit on the tomboy side / intellectual / or have gone through the same thing.
Ive never met a woman who has had lifelong friends, even one longer than a few years. Every time i see my sisters. They always have a new bestie. Ask about the one from the year before and they dont have any contact anymore
@@redrustyhill2 I had some bad fights with my friends in the past and as a guy I am even surprised we got back together as friends like the fight didn't matter much. I think when women have a verbal fight they just hold grudges forever like it is a bigger deal than it should be.
Very well said 👍👌💖💖❤
Sounds like my life story
You Ar not alone 😍💝
@@redrustyhill2In Scotland my partner still has life long women friends it they grew up in the 90s different time
I may be reading too much into your facial expressions on this video, but I came away feeling that this video was as much a gift to yourself while being equally a great gift to everyone. In any case, your presentation came across as heartfelt and in my humble opinion made the content even more impactful. Thanks!
Definitely needed to get this out in a sense. Hope it was helpful 🙏🏻♥️
This should be mandatory for female college students to watch.
It should be taught in middle school.
Mandatory for all females age 12 to 40.
Much to late. After 18 the worst is over . Starts at 11,12
It should be mandatory for parents to teach their kids already before they enter their teens. ;)
Truer words have never been spoken.
It's the old Yin and Yang issue which is timeless. We need balance. Stray too far to either extreme and you are gonna have a bad time. This is true with politics, sociology, parenting, etc. The west has strayed too far in the feminine direction and the pendulum is finally starting to swing back. Any masculine qualities are "toxic", we coddle kids, we go soft on criminals, we value emotions over logic, etc. I think things will get better but I'm sure we will overshoot as usual and will be talking about the opposite problem again one day.
Dear person who dismisses ethics:
Whatever you do, it's now something you do. You only need to murder once to be a murderer, and you only need to lie once to be a liar.
But more than that.... every act you perform is also practice for that act. If you cheat or lie, you make it easier for you to cheat and lie more often.
Even if you don't get caught, even if you "win" the prize you seek, you have *become* the kind of person who does what you did to win.
Also, there is always one person who witnesses your every crime, and judges you for it, even if you get away with it... that witness and judge is you.
If you think you have total control over your own mind, and your own conscience, you are dead dead dead wrong.
You don't pick what thoughts go into your head, or what feelings you feel. They come to you whether you want them or not. That hidden "you" is your judge, and you can never hide from it.
@@tomdalsin5175 This is the realest sht I have read today 👊🏿
Amen and the world is not a globe. If your lucky it's a forge.
Unless you have the right psychological disorder, like psychopathy where that internal judge is just not existing.
@sunkeyavad6528 psychopathy is not a disorder.
@@sunkeyavad6528 If someone is a psychopath, they need more help than a youtube comment.
Nope. slut shaming needs to be protected and promoted. The 304 culture is more destructive than you imagine.
It's very destructive to the 304s themselves. Sadly, many of them never realize it.
Slut shaming women while oromoting promiscuity with men is hypocrital and detrimental to society. You are wrong.
@ who said promote it for men? 🙄
What does 304 mean?@@davidcox3076
@@GuruOfwisdom Furthermore it's not "men", it's Chad and Tyrone. "Men" generally don't get the chance to be sluts, because they're not human to most women.
I'm a victim of a devouring mother. I became a suragate partner to my mother when i was around 11. I didn't know about any of this until it suddenly stopped when I was around 35. It messed me up in a huge way. One of the reasons I was still a virgin until I was 40.
It doesn't get talked about though. 😕
Oh my God! they made a movie about you. Did Steve Carroll consult you at all?
Damn. You were what we call a son-husband. Hoping you're in a better place now!
@@michaelwaninger3155gfys
@@hippityhoppitus Thats gonna be the majority of men in a decade. Its insane how many more single moms there are on Tinder compared to the early days of the app.
The parentified child is 1000% a form of child ab*se. it’s truly heartbreaking you had to endure that 😢
I’m so glad you are free now, that must feel like such a weight has been lifted.
I recommend you look up @patrickteahanofficial
He talks a lot about this and other forms of childhood trauma. He helped me a lot.
Thanks!
The topic of toxic masculinity is being shouted down so much we often forget what Toxic Femininity is. Thank you for bring up that topic. I hope that there's more subscribers to your channel.
Thank you! 🙏🏻♥️
Exactly. It's to the point now (at least here in the West), that by virtue of just simply BEING a man, is enough for us to be denigrated to the point of absurdity.
True
@@ronifouks Excellent video.
Would that my 18 year old self could have listened to this! Some of my studies in college were so imbalanced toward demonizing men and perpetuating the image of the victimized woman. This is a nuanced exploration that is the antidote to the simplistic us vs them versions of women's studies. Your care in explaining that toxic traits can being found in institutions and are not strictly inherent in one sex or the other is helpful in gaining a healthier perspective towards adopting honesty and acceptance of ourselves and each other in light of what is actually present in our behaviors and motivations. Grateful for you clarity of purpose and articulations!
Believe me, I have the same feeling! I could have spared my 18 year old self a lot of grief ☺️
Really happy you enjoyed the video! Thank you for your kind words ♥️
2:22 Gosh, women almost can't stop themselves from believing something if makes them feel good. This is what all the men responding in the comments are talking about, women aren't more emotionally intelligent, they're just more controlled by emotions
This is a very thorough examination of the female psyche, sources included and all.
I watched this while bottle feeding my daughter i the middle of the night, definitely will use this to guide her and raise her well rounded 🙏
Earned youself a sub instantly
I've done my best to make my daughters see things logically and rationally. Not to use emotions and manipulation. Sometimes biology comes through regardless of what I do. My 2nd daughter though will send humanity to the stars.
You ought to down load this. There is no way to know it will remain on line in the future.
....if your wife lets you. Mine didn't. I remember the same experience as you describe, bottle feeding my daughter in the middle of the night, her clear eyes looking up at me and her holding my little finger in her tiny fist for comfort. I felt such love for her then. Now I don't see her. She hates me. Her mother did that out of spite. She told me she would and she did
This is beautiful to see a real woman standing up and telling the truth. I have been telling them this for years. I also have over 1100 adult girls blocked across multiple platforms because of these types of girls you describe. It is so nice to meet a woman again.
The fact that she's also a beautiful woman to boot doesn't eggsactly hurt either. Brains, beauty AND humility? Where can I find such a creature here in the West?! 😃
@@ST74UK I think that they might be lying low like us good men. Sorting through the trash is too much work unless you have nothing productive to do.
@@ST74UKstop simping.
@@user-ld6wo4rv8h I think you need to look up what 'simping' actually means. Paying someone a compliment ain't being a Simp, son 😉
@@user-ld6wo4rv8h that was pretty harsh but I do appreciate your direct candour 😏
Your self awareness is impressive. Your wittiness is top-notch, I smiled at the Cardi B and Megan T stallion poet references. Also points to the organization of your space and the color coordination of the bookshelf. You rock
Thank you!! Happy you enjoyed the sarcasm 😉
Color coordination on your bookshelf?
Seriously? What are you, five?
@@Emanon...What are you, a complete fucking idiot that you genuinely believe someone who color coordinates their books are the emotional equivalent of a 5 year old? lmao 😂
@@Emanon...Why fire an ad hominem attack? Do you not respect creativity, order, or behavioral cohesion?
Well, I'm an educational psychologist and my mind is blown as the use of psychology, Sociology, the classics, in an incredibly persuasive way. Nice work!
Toxic feminism is also an expression that is perhaps even more applicable!
the politicization of toxic femininity
Ain’t that the truth 😌 Will be doing a video on the history of radical feminism at some point. Let me know if you’re interested and I’ll bump it up the queue 😊
@@ronifouks The thing is that if you are lonely, single and unattractive as a male, you are a woman hater granted today's feminist agenda. However, if you are attractive, you will be labelled a womanizer, toxic and a mansplainer. You will end up being labelled a woman hater either way. Yet if you act nice, women will disrespect you. Men can do nothing right, given the current feminist agenda it seems, and all this feels strange, really. Because if women want men with confidence, that they speak so frequently about, I think it is a really bad idea to reach that goal by putting men down in the first place! And whats more, feminists make every problem to be about women. Talk about a narcissistic ideology!
I completely agree. I think the way forward for me in this regard is to be kind, but to have clear boundaries, standards, and self-respect.
Self-respect is what we all should be aiming for - not "self-esteem" or "confidence".
Kindness in men isn't the problem, it's the "nice guy", wishy-washy guy who exudes insecurity.
But I promise you, a healthy woman who has worked on herself will naturally gravitate towards a healthy, responsible man with strong values and a kind heart.
@@ronifouks But think about it! If confidence in men is so important for women, is talking men down really the answer? What are feminists really trying to accomplish with all their attacks on men? If you are a chad you are a narcissist, if you are a nice guy you are a loser. Maybe a more positive approach towards men could be a key, if men's attitude towards women, and insecurity is such a problem in the first place.
I disagree that women are higher than men in so called "emotional intelligence". This garbage phrase came from the feminist book, "You just don't understand me." Men have very highly tuned emotions. Were it not so, men would not be as good as we are at being able to continue to track and react to a woman's moods "on the fly". Neither could a man hunt or track, as to do these things you have to be very deeply attuned to all of your senses and your "gut" feelings to be able to sense if there is a predator in the vicinity.
Women think they are so elusive and men are dumb. When in reality most womens behavior is so reprehensible, men arent "allowed" to call it out explicitly and are then led to navigate the dynamic implicitly leading to a misunderstanding that because men arent explicit like women are, men are just dumb. Stay golden kings. We will keep navigating womens ever changing emotions without freaking out
Yap well said.
They think changing dirty diapers makes them more intelligent.
Agreed. Were it not so, the greatest poets and philosophers wouldn't be men. But they are.
@@BaldurGunnarsson 1000% agree in a way. Women are perceived that way because narcissism and sociopathy are more common with them, which sounds counterintuitive, but Ted Bundy, Charles Manson etc had plenty of women in love with them and had zero capacity for feeling or understanding the emotions they would twist in others, so it is not surprising that so many women can be so good at faking empathy and manipulating emotions in men when they are usually unable to think beyond their own immediate selfish desires.
Most of it just hog wash 🧽 it cases by case not a men or women is Better
Why are you so smart and self aware??? Why are there so few women like you??? Thank you for your video. All I ask of you is that do not lose touch. Stay based. Your mere presence with this knowledge and demeanour is an example and shining light for other women to follow.
And… I was a cop that chuckled how I lived the Basic Instinct lifestyle and ticked it off my “career checklist”. I never heard of the analysis you gave, and you hit deep inside me real hard. You shocked and stopped me in my tracks. You revealed me as a sucker in a heartbeat. If I knew you in my 20’s and 30’s, my life would be so different. When I married 24 years ago, I had the blue uniform (chick magnet), was a pro athlete and looked like a Demi-god, I had an extensive tertiary education, I had it all. A year ago when I was blindsided, my perfect white picket fence marriage suddenly crumbled in a day. I still didn’t know why. Your video revealed how I achieved everything, I was unstoppable and untouchable, yet I was a fool to the succubus. Thanks for enlightening me and try to give me the temporary energy to start my journey new… again. 😱😳😔
What happened Brother?
Don't simp
@@gerardo9052 me simp?? You missed the point. Because I was a vet, all the white Karen’s call me a toxic white male. I was once invulnerable but in less than a day the local marriage councillor convinced my wife that I was some sort of serial killer on the loose. The wife always had a personality disorder (bi-polar sociopathic narcissist) and it was this video that helped me put all the warning signs together. Along with support from a bad councillor then the feminist run Family Courts, I lost my family from 24 years in a day. In retrospect I was never educated to put the signs together, should not have trusted her and if I knew better I would have promptly left her the moment I met her. She played on the fact that in Australia, all Caucasian men are considered evil, they have NO voice and the white Karen’s run everything. If you don’t believe it, it will happen to you and if you live in Australia, the only question is when.
@@gerardo9052 thanks for asking. I was young and naive, and never met a person like my ex. She is from a gypsy family and had all the warning signs listed by the OP. Back then I could not recognise the red flags. Once this sociopathic/narcissistic bitch stole everything from me she left me via email. She stole my two homes, my career, my family, my friends and all of my money. I have not seen my daughters since they were 15 which was about 8 years ago now. It’s heartbreaking how the legal system is designed to destroy the very heart and sole of every white men as they are considered enemies of the matriarchy. To top it off, the day she left me I was due to receive corrective surgery on my back to get me out of a wheelchair (injury from deployment). Narcissistic sociopaths have no empathy for you and true to her form, she took advantage of my weakened physical/mental state and has now left me isolated, lonely and homeless. She took absolutely everything including my soul.
We exist❤!! and we're not even xtians or Republicans necessarily! I definitely WON'T be voting for superfun ladyboss who fell on her head riding the mechanic bull 29 years ago at Fridays from too many slippery nipple shots.. no thanks. I'll be voting for homeboy and I'm a feminist
Roni, I really wish you received the positive comments this video deserves and that overtime more and more people, both men and women with a better understanding of the intention behind it and who it's aimed at. As you mentioned, these topics are so hard to to discuss and I just wanted you to know that amongst all the background noise in the comments it will have a positive impact which spans the divide. This was really well done, it's not often to come across someone who wants to make a real contribution towards improving things, is aware of the pitfalls and can skillfully navigate them. So many levels to this, it's earned you at least one additional subscriber
Girls, we are not thinking of you 20 years later. We forget you and love our wives deeply as we both age. That's what adults do. That is the most fulfilling path through life.
Bravo.
I'm happier than ever after 29 years of marriage. It's been both rewarding and challenging. But in spite of those challenges, I would never be preoccupied with any girlfriend/relationship that I had before. I recognize them mostly as the dodged bullets that they were. Only someone supremely narcissistic would think "you married June Cleaver, but in the back of your mind, you still dream of me."
No, lady, I don't.
Well done
Been trying to solve female intrasexual competition for a while.
Solving the male side was one of the most important and life-saving realizations I've had.
How did you solve the male side?
@@FlamingCockatiel I have a vid about it
@@FlamingCockatielread the rational male by rollo. you'll see women's and men's nature.
@@Binyamin.Tsadik Is it the Categorical Thinking and Typology Video? I'm currently listening to it.
Men can build their own house, and compete with each other to build a bigger house. Women have to compete with each other to get the man who builds the house. This initial competition is attractiveness. Though it isn't everything to track a mate, many women come to the conclusion it is because of the way men approach them. That and the commercial world hammers this. Women used to learn poetry or instruments and poise to get a husband, so society has skewed this. It doesn't matter how attractive you are if you don't have any other traits.
If you want to test this competition, have an attractive guy approach a group of girls and randomly select one as .ore attractive and watch the fallout.
Feminists are trying to cheat the system. This is why they demand thar you accept a degree as value because they can control and have access to unlikr an immutable characteristic. This is why they try to proclaim all women are 10s or beautiful. They are trying to remove have to compete with more attractive women by removing the scale, but deep down inside, they all know. But they actually accidentally show their hand here, because they want to be accepted as beautiful, which means they know the default is attraction. Instead of claiming being a 3 is acceptable.
That is why this necrosis is a problem in western countries. The women are lied to and lie about each other. There is also far more wealth to compete for. Other countries or cultures don't lie. The Asians will straight up tell someone what their flaws are. While it may seem mean at the outset, in the end it is actually more kind because that woman can work with the or around the flaw and know where she stands, instead of constantly being gaslighted.
Attractive women often end up alone because they have the worst of both worlds. Unrelenting attention from men, Unrelenting resentment from women. I just have a couple of attractive features and I am still attacked by other women to the point of employment discrimination. Women will resort to character attacks and do anything to take you out. They can even be married, but you can still steal their husband so you are a threat. It never stops. There is a movie called Malena that does a great job demonstrating the nightmare of being a really attractive woman and how women actually are.
♦Yes, MEN *"oppressed" women to the point of inventing, manufacturing, fixing things for them [including their toilets and collecting their garbage], constructing for them houses /roads/bridges..etc and even *prioritizing the women over MEN in life threatening rescue situations* since the time of Adam!
Too logical my guy.. none of them has a good response to this facts 😊
@@Potencylogic no, men oppress women by raping us, beating us, murdering us and treating us like objects whose only existence is for your pleasure. Your response will no doubt include more insults hurled at females. Have you ever looked into why you have such a strong bias towards women and honestly understand where your anger comes from?
All those inventions made life so easy it gave people more time to watch soap opera and navel gaze.
@@dharmaqueen7877speak for yourself bro! It’s allowed some to build rocket ships, computers or the next marvels that will be created.
100 years ago women couldn't vote or own property
This was the best UA-cam video I watched this year! Literally everyone should watch it.
Here's the cycle, and it could start with a man or a woman, but we'll just start with a man in this example. A young naive woman is lied to and tricked by a low moral value man, when she finally learns it was all a lie she says, "fuck men, I'm going to fuck up their lives like they did to me", so she starts her femme fatale arch. Somewhere alone that arch she meets a naive decent man, but she doesn't see that, she thinks he's just in it for himself like all the others, but since he's not, she does more damage to him than any of the low ethic selfish guys. This devastates him, and when he finally recovers from it a little, he says, "fuck women, I'm going to fuck up their lives like they did to me", and he becomes a low ethics selfish guy, then one day he meets a young naive women, but he does see that, he thinks she's a low ethics selfish woman, and he plays to win but getting want he wants without giving anything real in return.. and repeat and repeat and repeat. Each broken person making several more broken people. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, and a heart for a heart makes the whole world heartless.
Also look up learned helplessness and how humans are able to learn learned helplessness just by watching other people, and apply that to children of parents who didn't stick together. Notice how often neither parent takes responsibility, acting as if they were helpless to the situation, thus teaching their children, there's no way to tell if a man or a woman is a ethical person or a predatory person. "they were perfect and then they just changed out of nowhere!" kind of teaches kids there's nothing you can do, thus they either fear love too much to even try, or they set aside reasonable fears and diving in with blind faith that fate will find them true love.
Very well said. All those creators, philosophers and psychologists coming up with new terms and theories that are not relatable and make no sense at all, and you managed to sum it up perfectly in the first paragraph.
yup. It's just a numbers game of who did wrong to whom.
U should have gotten more likes and feedback for this post bcuz it is more true to life experience
The wolves caught all the rabbits and began to howl at the moon, hungry in this inhospitable world. This is all due to extremes and immoderation of appetites.
I think you hit the nail on the head with your initial statement - the poison is in the dose. These behaviors are natural or useful in a small amount, but become toxic when taken too far. My concern (also with discussion about masculinity) is that people begin to think that any amount of behavior that is similar to the ones discussed are wrong or toxic.
Agreed. Nick Freitas has a great breakdown of this - that the same masculine qualities of aggression can be used to hurt or protect. It all depends on how we channel our energies.
Agree, both masculine and feminine have shadow aspects, I think denial just leads to suppression and projection (incidentally, both women and men can express shadow aspects of the other sex, ironically especially when they reject the opposite sex, e.g. aggressive women, or bitchy men), whereas the healthier way is awareness and integration. You can be aware of your shadow traits and consciously decide not to act on them. Also, sometimes we may need to draw on our dark side a little, for example as Roni says, aggression can be used to attack or protect.
Empathy is not the same as compassion. Psychopaths are empathetically aware of, and rewarded by, the pain they are inflicting on others. Empathy is simply the ability to imagine what others are feeling. Compassion is the ability to suffer with others, and the primary motivation to prevent the suffering of others. The psychopath is empathetic, but devoid of compassion.
Thanks. People conflating empathy, sympathy, compassion, and care; are immature. Because these same people assume of course they're qualified to expound on these apparently elementary subjects, yet won't even learn to distinguish them because of course it's common knowledge and beneath reviewing.
An illustration of empathy I like is that of the predatory cat, that's really considerate of what the mouse is thinking and what the mouse might do next. Such empathy to then play with the captured mouse, keenly learning all about its decision making process and just how the mouse feels about one swipe or another. Then finally the cat visibly grieves when the mouse is all played out. The cat got to know the mouse intimately.
Sympathy was so elusive, until ten years ago we chanced to _see it_ on a brain scan. The so called "mirror neurons". When a neural pattern lights up as someone performs an action, and then another viewing the action has the same pattern of neurons light up... that's _the sympathy,_ like an organ made of meat that can be poked and stimulated with probes.
I have to say.. Roni Fouks did an excellent job covering this topic.
I'm a victim of a toxic feminist. This helped shed light into my ex-wife's behaviors. I'm concerned for my children with her because I'm not sure which toxic feminine trait she would have. But I have seen her use and abuse her own power to try and gain control over me, albeit in a different way since she is a lesbian now. The last quotes you shared from Carl Jung struck a chord with me concerning feminity as a whole or humanity to put it in a bigger perspective. David from Disturbed wrote about, in his songs, that it takes the darkness to see the light. We are all facing duality like never before and must choose where to turn. Light or dark, but neither is the wrong choice. It's just a choice. I hope to gain some additional insight as to how to interact with my ex since she and I share children, and I must find a way to help the tension between us loosen. I will never claim to be perfect, and I will definitely stumble along the way. But thank you, Roni, for posting this. I hope this helps others the way it needs to.
Listen to The Players Handbook by Rollo Tomassi and also more videos from this wiser woman of beauty we have here.
I hope this video gets well over a million views, and i hope (because i dont EVER seem to see most women watch this kind of self reflective and assessing content) the women truly take what you said to heart. Everyone can learn from this, period but i hope the women find their place in what you said and all men who have experienced or been victim to this kind of treatment can recognize where it comes from and hopefully heal. I can speak only from the experience of being a man with an overbearing mother which led to being bullied and abused a lot of girls and women- if you were to say this happened to you, a lot of people wouldnt believe you because they still think lack of physical harm means harmlessness. I think this video is very well done, i hope it gets the respect and awareness it deserves.
Thank you!!! 🙏🏻♥️
Often times it is those wounds we cannot see that cause the most lasting damage. A busted lip is a busted lip and it will heal easily enough. But to be tore down by your peers and made to hate yourself? that lasts far longer and is a much more difficult injury to properly treat.
Femininity isn't toxic, feminism is.
I don't disagree. I was at Quora and some dude was saying feminism didn't destroy anything but MGTOW did. A-hem, MGTOW exists because thanks to feminism. Feminism is a cancer.
Feminism is steered by toxic femininity, which is why feminism is toxic...
Feminism is the declaration of war of women not on men but the entire universe
Nah feminity is really Toxxic.
Feminism is what femininity becomes when it isn't tempered by strong masculinity.
Damn good video. Definitely wish this had mention of ways to deal with these behaviors in a modern setting, but archetypes are very helpful
Finally someone willing to point out the elephant in the room and say right out that most women abuse their sexual power.
it only works on men who are slaves to the puss
WOW! Im only at 15:49 and I just had to psuse it to say, what an eloquent and succinct way to convey the image of the so called "Modern Femine Empowerment"! The extreme with which some are pushing and living out this twisted version of Female Sexuality feels like they're retaliating for what they perceived as Female Oppression by Toxic Masculinity for centuries. We as empathetic creatures should KNOW that 2 wrongs do not make a right (that is if one agrees with the position of female oppression in the first place). Truly the way forward is not...whatever THIS is. (This being toxic femininity) Men and Women are equal opposites, we're built differently and as such have our own unique strengths and weaknesses which should be praised and accented by each other. TY for the informative and well thought out and eloquently delivered video! You gained a subscriber here luv! ❤
I feel the sad part is.... women are not going to watch this until there is a self perpetuated reason to change. It's very rare women watch these, just men. I hope to be wrong.
I'm female watching this, but it doesnt seem like most commenters are (you can thank the UA-cam algorithm for that )
No need to hope, you are wrong 😀
@@justsomenobody889 How likely is the UA-cam algorithm to send women (the ones you're trying to reach at that) to a video including Jordan Peterson? Ok, I think everyone gets those recommendations with a fresh account. But you're going to get a ton of checking out when that comes up. He should not have been mentioned in a discussion pretty much intended to sway liberal women.
@@vangadencia yeah I used to be a huge fan of Jordan in his early days, but it is honestly a little difficult to stay a fan when I come across him basically saying that there's something wrong with me because I wanted a career more than children (I'm a nerd so I need to be researching something or else I'll die like a fish out of water). I don't think it's necessary to make weirdos like me feel like they don't have value in society just because they don't fall into the normal pattern of human behavior, so it's not surprising he's an instant turn off to some people.
That said, a lot of women do still like him quite a bit because there's just so much wisdom there. But I suspect as soon as UA-cam figures out that the user is a female, the JP suggestions will disappear like you're suspecting (I wouldn't know myself though honestly since UA-cam hasn't figured out what I am 😅)
@@justsomenobody889I have exactly the same issue with Jordan Peterson, I don't dislike him or demonise him but while I think he has good insight into how a majority operate, I don't think he makes enough allowances for individuality and the fact that some women really are better off on a different path than having a family (my brain also needs to be occupied) and that they can be fulfilled and content anyway. I think the reason why so many feel the need to shame or scare women into having children is because we need them to for society to perpetuate itself, and shaming is how societal rules are enforced, but that doesn't mean these rules are right for everyone.
It's so refreshing to see a woman say this and put it so well.
I always thought that women congratulating, celebrating, and feeding into the negative traits of toxic femininity of other women was a subtle form of sabotage. A way to appear helpful and supportive while undermining the value of the other woman.
The problem with that train of thought is that they actually seem to believe the nonsense they're spouting. So is it that they are actually undermining other women? And that they're so trapped in their own fear of ostracization, that they're following the other lemmings off the cliff for fear of being cast out? Or is it that they've heard their own lies and those of other so often, that they actually begun to believe it themselves? Or is it just that they are so miserable themselves, they really don't care what it takes to bring everyone around them down to their level? Regardless, it's all pretty self-destructive.
I thoroughly enjoyed this. I've recently seen some of the videos from Eryn Byrd about female immaturity and the reason why matriarchies fail. I can highly recommend them, they touch on some of the same subjects as you do, and are also very deep.
It's such an important message to bring forward, and I think this will be a hot subject from women like yourself to bring forward as a response to the current state of feminism; where I think there will be a natural correction to a more balanced state.
The message has to be of compassion and something emotionally understandable to have full impact om the majority of women, which I'm sure you are aware of; which is also the reason why channels like yours and Eryn, is what I think will be the true movement forward as opposed to those of Just Pearly things which has a more logical and perhaps too masculine approach.
Trash, still in the troupe that women arent selfish.
"Lets just tell them" will never work because they know what they are doing.
What an awfull take.
Also perly things, has a "manly language" because she is a grifter.
She just repeats what she learns from mens channels, to the people that just want to hear those opinions but in a softer voice.
To be precise the males that need to hear his of opinions with a girls voice.
She is incapable of her own points because she doesnt understands what she is talking, she just repeats, thats why she speaks the way you say she does.
Love this, thank you 🙏🏻 I really appreciate Eryn Byrd’s work as well.
If emotional intelligence wasn't coined by feminists to give women playing field against men when confronted with rationality.... And if emotional intelligence could be separated from intelligence itself, I'd posses woodworking intelligence, business running intelligence and so on.
The other "intelligences" were invented by the "feel good corporation".
Why?
People could not stand being called idiot, because they cant learn mats, but "hey i can paint and play the guitar" that "must be some kind of intelligence".
These abilities have nothing to do with real, iq, spacial, mat/logic, intelligence but they called them "intelligence" for the clout.
I find funny how real hard scintists wanted to test intelligence in a scintific way, only for fake social sciences to take their work and fuck it up, as always, with their pseudoscience.
Emotional intelligence and rationality aren't opposites tho
Google the term Emotional Intelligence is "the ability to manage both your own emotions and understand the emotions of people around you." If that is the case, IMO men has higher Emotional Intelligence than women because men can manage their emotions better... Just saying.
I have never felt like the two things are the same. I actually don't know anyone who thinks that. Take care. ❤
Hey, I agree with you. There are different forms of proficiency and talent. Calling these concepts different forms of “intelligence” is often misleading. But highly respect woodworking and business running skills. I definitely have zero woodworking skills 😅
Quite honestly, this is the clearest, most genuine, most helpful exposition on this topic I have seen.
Thank you, Roni, for your research, your work to create this video and your positive femininity.
Wonderful video, thank you. I am the "eternal daughter" and now at 41 I have missed my opportunity to become a mother, and I will always be less than whole. I pray for all young women to hear more messages like these to avoid so many painful paths.
You are whole as you are. You do not need to procreate in order to gain access to a higher purpose.... Not everyone is here to find purpose in procreation, there are so many other fields of generativity in life. I wish I could actually show you the extensive purpose and fulfillment you could get outta life without breeding. You have your unique one life, cherish it!
@@voccessbg5396 I would like to believe you; I told myself something like that for most of my life. But no, I think not participating in the cycle of life makes my life incomplete. I guess I'm still whole enough, I mean perhaps we are most of us incomplete in some way. Small children die, most acorns don't grow into oaks. It's all a part of things I suppose. Your use of the word "breeding" makes me think you have been the victim of some wrongheaded modern brainwashing. Are you a "feminist"? Thank you for your reply.
Hey there! I just wanna second the other reply and say that it’s completely okay that you never had children! I am 33, and never had children by my own choice. I am very happy and fulfilled in my life, and i really truly wish the same for you. i always knew that i didn’t want kids though (even hated baby dolls, loved my Barbies tho! They were more glamorous 💅🏻😂) the only time that I really start to second-guess myself is when I think about being older and the possibility that no one will be there to care for me, which in my opinion is not a good enough reason to bring children into this world. I have my family. I have my pets. I have a fulfilling job and lots of hobbies, i date and still hope to find my husband out there. Life is great without the responsibility of children holding me back. 😎💖my question to you is were you always sure that you didn’t want or is it something that you sort of convinced yourself later in life? I understand where you’re coming from with the whole circle of life thing. I’m sure it is a very beautiful thing to be a part of and there is no substitute, but again it is not necessary for a great life. If it’s really something in your soul that you want badly, there is still time! Or maybe you could adopt? (Not the same i know but still a great thing to do!) i’m just curious as to what made you change your mind from not wanting kids to feeling like you are missing out on some thing?
@@joymrsjoy hello. No i do not abide to any ideology. I just see things for what they are. Breeding is bleeding, lets not sentimentalise normal bodily functions. It is all experience, you sign up for this or that based on personal preference but all is with the goal of consciousness expansion. That could be achieved by numerous experiences and nothing is more important or valuable. Breeding included. Cheers.
@@voccessbg5396 Very, very well said. Sounds true to me. Thank you for replying.
this video will blow up one day thank you for this you don't know what you have done. keep on
I’m so glad to hear you resonated with it! Thank you 🙏🏻♥️
In a crisis, what seems more intelligent?
1) Throwing a tantrum, going into panic and/or lashing out at everyone and anyone around you.
Or
2) Getting your emotions under control, being pragmstic and problem solve.
Asking for a friend.
Hahaha. Just dripping with sarcasm. Well done 😂 my friend told me to say that 👏
That's a really good friend ya gotz there. 🧡
2.
The feminist narrative gets dropped REAL fast when there's a crisis.
There is another side to that though:
Men are pretty good at detatching from their emotions. We always were, and probably always will be. But fewer and fewer learn how to REattach to them. Leading to those emotions breaking out at the worst point possible and being completely beyond control.
@@michaelt.5672 bs. It is about design. Seems like you have never been in a shock situation to see how unlikely people rise up due to their design. Thats' what I gotta tell you as someone born in the crisis.
This woman just popped up randomly on my feed and it's genuinely thought provoking.
Would like to see her on Modern Wisdom.
Thank you so much for producing this very informative video! You put into words what I've been thinking for the longest time! I will be forwarding this to my daughters, sisters, and female friends. ❤
It's a good discussion of the topic, but I think it's too focused on Jungian perspectives. Jung is a bit of a one-trick pony.
@@grizzlygrizzle but hes not wrong tho. there is a reason why good scholars cite him. besides he had many great students too
This was such a great talk. I stumbled on you by accident and I think what really struck me is. I thought the femme fatale was a woman who was just too beautiful and seductive and I didn’t really see the destructive side at least not that it was intentional. I think the femme fatale is very romanticized through Literature and definitely Hollywood.❤
Really happy it resonated with you! 🙏🏻♥️
How is it possible to be healthy attractive and care about this at the same time. Great work. Thank you. You are an example for woman for our future!🎉
Thank you!!! 🙏🏻♥️
I've found any time you try to bring up how 'sexy women are taking advantage of men' everyone just says your a 'jealous jaded hater', rather then having a constructive conversation about how toxic it is for society overall; this is a complex issue that CANT just be ignored, because if women are allowed to just use their femininity freely for their own personal gain at the great expense of society, and it is left unchecked, what WILL happen is history will repeat itself. and if we ask ourselves what historical society has done in the past to control this, its not pretty. so, thank you for this excellent video!
*** A MUST, MUST SEE!!! THIS IS SO DEEP!!! WOW!!! Great job Roni! Liked and Subscribed (ALL)
Wow I just came across your channel today, this is now one of my favorite channels. I absolutely love that you embed your sources into your videos it helps for me to do a deeper dive into the subject afterwards, thank you.
Thank you so much! I have a lot more videos like this on the way ♥️
I admire the deep research that underlies this video, as well as the excellent staging, presentation, editing, and lighting, The production values are absolutely on point. Kudos all around. I have only just found your channel, but will be following going forward. Well done!
I applaud you on what you covered in this video. However, the confluence of Cellphones/ social media/ feminism ideology/ and 'me too' have blown the boundaries off women's hypergamy and relative moralism. So 'looking within for moral values' is not something modern women can do... because their values are not absolute. And without the constraints of 'the village' their search for 'better' knows no limits.
Very well said.
Great video. Made me realize that where masculinity is suppressed, men turn into toxic feminine
Spot on.
This is really brave of you to do. Agree, women are just as harmful as men. Hate to see abuse against either. It’s best to be aware, these things tend to be more or less exaggerated at points in the cycle I think. It’s obvious they’ve taken to social media more effectively than men and used it to organize. Just the season I think. I’m glad to find someone so candid, thanks.
Thank you! Happy that it resonated with you 🙏🏻♥️
"Emotional intelligence" is not about successfully reading and manipulating others. They are indeed champions of that, for selfish and destructive reasons.
This hits deep. There is this girl who is older than me and she knows how pretty she is. I know I have no chance. She in the beginning seemed to check me out and found very soon that I'm uninteresting. I know and am into many many different things and that slowly came out, she noticed but also notice that I am odd and different and it pushed her away. She told me everyone has her cell phone number and I kinda pretend I didn't understand what that means. I respect her still as a person and didn't look down on her and now she is put off by me. Like I'm one of those guys. I know I'm not handsome but I'm not super ugly too. I felt like I wasn't respected and each turn felt abandoned ignored and looked down on. Iv turned into that women hater and it makes me sick and sad inside. Like I let myself down and let down the girl for me that's out there.
She’s not worth your time. There is a good, honest woman out there for you ♥️
Just understand that you hate the archetype she embodies. It can be VERY easy to lose sight of that. Honestly if you haven't, sit down and meditate on it and help realign your world view with your values.
Epic essay, this is THE secret knowledge of our era.
🙏🏻♥️
The perfect modern example of a femme fatal is absolutely Angelina Jolie a woman who lures you with her beauty and then destroys your life
57 year old dude here... delving into any and all info i can gather to understand whats going on for myself, discovering alot about myself, and whats going on in my relationship of 33 year marriage..and ...women in general that are in my life...stumbled across this, didnt really want to listen ... but curiosity set in... glad i watched till the end..Very well done! This young woman did her homework..thankyou... this explains alot...
Keep on keepin on young lady!
As a 19-year-old man, thank you for the insight. ❤
"Happy Wife, Happy Life" is the saying that we've bought into here in the West. But after 30 years of marriage, I now live by: Submissive Wife, Happy Life.
How about somewhere in the middle, mate? Does your wife want to live by that description or would she prefer a different term? A reasonable and well balance wife, happy life in my opinion. Additionally, I think you and many who use the turn or phrase, misunderstand what happy means. I am not happy if I get everything I want and people kowtow to all my selfish desires. I would become lazy and entitled and would not respect the other which in the end does not satisfy me. A truly happy wife or husband is one that gets checked on their bullshit and is held accountable for various responsibilities within the household because it gives you purpose. So in the end, Happy Wife, Happy Life if it is the right kind of happy.
@jameshowell5365 you do you.
... I am 40 + and just realised my mom was a "devouring mother". Well, atleast learnt that it had a name
I had the Terrible Mother, hence my insecurity with myself.
Beware of the covert narcissisti mother-in-law 😅
Thank you for this channel ! Thank you for being like that. Our society needs it. This is getting out of control.
My daughter is the Persephone type. Totally dependent on her mother, my ex, neurotic about her appearance, traumatised by a boyfriends svere brain damage, manipulates her twin brother into helpng her. It doesn't help that she also has ADHD! I try and help by being the strong father. I listen to her and empathise, then tell her she needs to grow up! Her mother tries to fix her (endless rounds of therapy) which will never work. She needs to take more responsibility for her future, and more accountability for her actions. Now her therapist has diagnosed her trauma she can use it as an excuse for everything!
Therapists have become toxic. Psychiatrists always have been toxic.
Im not a father, so what the hell do I know disclaimer, but I do think you might have more luck not telling her that she has to grow up, but helping her grow up through nudges that guide her in the right direction. Not sure how helpful it will be with the ex's influence abound, but still think it's worth sharing if it resonates.
Intuition being that if she's so sheltered by her mother to the point that it makes her persephone, she would most likely turn away at any push towards something that even remotely looks like it would mean leaving the safe, childlike, naive bomb shelter that she's made her world out to be. Not to mention that in general people don't like to be told what to do, especially when it's something they are actively avoiding.
So if she's persephone, don't push or tell her to grow up so overtly, but push her towards a path or events that would result in her gaining more life experience, that can help slowly eat up at that bomb shelter.
If Hades' Tartarus is what underdeveloped persephones fall into when they're not ready for the world, then what I'd do is guide her so that her naivety and infantilized image of herself will erode. Something that makes her uncomfortable, so that she learns it's okay to be uncomfortable and that she'll be better for it, but not so uncomfortable that it will traumatize her fragile sensibilities and push her further into her bomb shelter. In other words, help her pursue experiences that will provide a small taste of tartarus now, and slowly inch her towards gaining more experience so that eventually she'll actually want to be independent and break out of her shelled illusion of an everlasting spring. Like persephone, someone who is not prepared for winter and only knows spring, will experience a harsh awakening that is befitting of Tartarus analogies.
Good luck, good fathers who care about their children's development are doing God's work.
Also speaking from experience, I was diagnosed with ADHD as an adult, and it was pretty severe for me. I went from a F-D student university dropout working as a janitor, to going back to a better even tougher university to finish my degree and doing so with straight A's. Despite this, ADHD should never be used as an excuse for your shortcomings, failures, or to not pursue growth. ADHD is a personal obstacle to overcome, and something you should want to overcome. I could have chosen to go get help, and work on my ADHD on my own before I dropped out, but I didn't back then because of my pride, and because I liked having an excuse to rely on.
this is the red pill .....men understanding these truths.
Red pill man are mastermanipulators that enjoy of cohersive control of previousely broken woman.
This is great.
It gives me a slight hope that maybe, just maybe "things will start to change for the better" (before I kick the bucket).
People always push something until it reaches absurdity and it collapses. Feminism is no different. Whatifalthist has a number of videos on this.
@@charliedontsurf334 seeing men (guys) discuss it, isn't the same as seeing intelligent women (gals) covering it (from a female perspective).
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I hope so too! ♥️
Im speechless. I have clicked on so many videos essays about toxic femininity and couldn't Finish .
But this is amazing .I subscribed ❤
So glad I come across your video Roni ! Amazing work on the video , simply amazing ! If only more women were like you , we all would be in a much better world ...
Thank you! ♥️ Trying my best ☺️
Lots more of these kinds of in-depth videos will be out soon!
I coined the term “toxic compassion” which I think has flooded the minds of many women in the modern age who obsess over spreading society’s resources too thin across a myriad of issues ranging from social programs and taxing the rich to wars overseas while utterly ignoring other important things like cost of living. I’m no scientist but I theorize not having enough children greatly contributes to it.
Yep, they need to do something with those nurturing impulses. By turning it to politics, they get to feel good about "helping those poor people" without noticeably inconveniencing themselves. I'm not saying they don't experience any negative effects from their choices. I'm saying that they don't connect the "here and now" with votes cast 8+ years ago. Anything bad now is obviously the result of "evil" or "greedy" people and not at all connected to their choices.
They also need a "religion," something to stand for and believe in. Until they find out the ideology they are supporting would subjugate them even worse.