Classically Abby: 'Family Strife is God's Design'
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2024
- Today we're checking out the faith section of Classically Abby's new podcast. Turns out that family strife is an integral part of God's perfect design, who knew?
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00:00 Intro
02:56 Jacob's story
12:58 Family Struggles are part of the plan
15:18 What About Marriage Rules
21:55 Why isn't the Torah clearer?
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Hello lovely people, thanks for watching! You can see a silly video where I followed Abby's "modest yet hot" fashion advice here: ua-cam.com/video/2UB4dIlIvk0/v-deo.html
You want help those modern western godless and souless idiot to remove the idea they will be Nothing once death and to believe again in God.
But they are too stupid to get and continue to make questions as babies (that what they can only do).
Let them be western godless and souless idiot and think they will Nothing once they die
May God bless them all.
Yes, Jacob got punished for his deception. He was punished by being given a father in law, who repeatedly deceived Jacob. Jacob fell victim to the same sin that that he committed. Jacob's cowardice & lack of faith were also required to be confronted by him, when he returned to face his brother Esau. Jacob had to have faith that God would provide him with the future his inheritance would have been given to him for, & believe that God would not allow his brother to spoil God's plan, by killing Jacob.
Joseph being sold into slavery was definitely not ambiguous. It created strife in Abraham's family. Abraham suspected his son's of murdering Joseph, which had been their first plan. Abraham lived fearing that his son's might also kill his son Benjamin, because they saw how he loved him as well. The possibility of trust being part of their household, had been destroyed. Their betrayal was clearly shown as wrong & evil. Joshua's rising through the ranks was in spite of their betrayal, not because of it. Without God gifting Joshua with deciphering dreams, he would have spent his life in prison.
I used to be a religious Jew, so I can provide a bit of context.
One of the things that I like about Judaism is its emphasis on personal interpretation. Whereas Christianity focuses a lot on finding the "true" meaning of the texts, the idea of the Torah is that it can be read and understood in different ways by different people. While a rabbi may view it from a more scholarly perspective, there are plenty of times in Jewish texts where respected rabbis learn from humble farmers who were able to read something differently, and most modern synagogues put emphasis on discussion among everyone, no matter the level of formal Jewish education. The exceptions are extremely clear sentences such as "don't eat pigs." There's not a lot of interpretation there.
A Jewish person will never question another's faith or say that they're interpreting something incorrectly, since that's not really a thing. While that can be great (and is why religious Jews tend to be more progressive than religious Christians), it also means that people like Abby often feel safer hiding behind Judaism as they spew their bigotry, because no one can say that they're wrong.
Emma, just looked at Willo the Wendigo and there is a very pleasing comment the good "doctors" channel has been taken down... Devine intervention lol 👹
I believe that marriage is between one man, one woman, her sister, and two of their handmaids
Sounds like Sister Wives.
GOD didn't make Strife, that was Rogue Entertainment. GOD made Railroad Tycoon.
TRUTH ❤🎢
And then nightdive rereleased it, and that made god very angry.
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in UA-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
@@kikipocalypse imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in UA-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
@@icravedeath.1200 imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in UA-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
"The people in the bible are just so real. Nobody's perfect. They are all real human beings who make real mistakes... who deal with real tragedies and each struggles, just like we do."
Like when Lots daughters get their father drunk in order to sleep with him. So relatable :)
xD THIS this is often the one that gobsmacks me!!
Don’t forget about Jeptah burning his daughter as a sacrifice!
Well you see, someone brought up all the raping of women in the bible so they decided to change it up for once to even things out... because that's how that works. /s
moments like those really let you know who wrote it
@@wilberwhateley7569 I mean we all made hasty promises or bets and ended up messing up right?
Like a little mishap like burning your daughter is not a biggie
There’s no such thing as a “perfect family”, but trying to justify abuse & manipulation as “part of God’s plan”… yeah that’s f**ked up.
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in UA-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
Everything she claims to be true is F is anyway.
I wonder how far she'll go, but it's ridiculous...
What about a future-perfect or pluperfect family? _Familia fuerit_ or _Familia fuerat_ ?
@@FocusedFighter777 You want help those modern western godless and souless idiot to remove the idea they will be Nothing once death and to believe again in God.
But they are too stupid to get and continue to make questions as babies (that what they can only do).
Let them be western godless and souless idiot and think they will Nothing once they die
May God bless them all.
Sentience is part of God's plan. That allows ppl to be evil, & forces us to deal with evil people & evil behaviors. Redemption requires slogging thru those evils, because judgment would end humanity.
"Why would an all-powerful god be so vague about such important ethical problems?" Thank you Emma.
Exactly...
Because god is all knowing I guess.
@@stevenredpath9332 nah. The god of the Old Testament is just an immoral thug, treating his children like little puppets. LOL
Many of the things that seem vague R made clear in Leviticus. Because humans R stubborn, insane, & intolerant of God's authority. It took generations to teach moral lessons that would be forgotten in a single generation.
@@coda821, stop talking about the Bible as if it's perfect, because here's Jesus' prophecy in Isaiah chapter 7 verses 14-25.
'Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know know to refuse the evil, and choose the good.
For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings.
The Lord shall bring upon thee, and upon thy people, and upon thy father's house, days that have not come, from the day that Ephraim departed from Judah; even the king of Assyria.
And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall hiss for the fly that is in the uttermost part of the rivers of Egypt, and for the bee that is in the land of Assyria.
And they shall come, and shall rest all of them in the desolate valleys, and in the holes of the rocks, and upon all thorns, and upon all bushes.
In the same day shall the Lord shave with a razor that is hired, namely, by them beyond the river, by the king of Assyria, the head, and the hair of the feet: and it shall also consume the beard.
And it shall come to pass in that day, that a man shall nourish a young cow, and two sheep;
And it shall come to pass, for the abundance of milk that they shall give he shall eat butter: for butter and honey shall every one eat that is left in the land.
And it shall come to pass in that day, that every place shall be, where there were a thousand vines at a thousand silverlings, it shall even be for briers and thorns.
With arrows and with bows shall men come thither; because all the land shall become briers and thorns.
And on all hills that shall be digged with the mattock, there shall not come thither the fear of briers and thorns: but it shall be for the sending forth of oxen, and for the treading of lesser cattle.'
Sure does sound like him... I'm honestly losing my patience with you people, because you've got no clue what your own book says, plus, it's been used to support a whole list of shit that you might even disagree with, such as slavery, unequal rights for women, etc. I've seen my own nan talk about how boys were able to do what they wanted, but women were not, she hasn't got a clue that her own religion played a part in it...
What's sad is that she agrees that women should be stay-at-home mums and that that's all she wanted to be and that she's got no clue why women would wanna go against what God had made for them by being focused on career, etc, she also thinks that being gay or trans isn't natural and that it's the chemicals in the food and water that's got their brains messed up and that being gay or trans shouldn't be legal, because it goes against the Bible.
Sure, the Bible was also used to support equal rights for women and slaves, but a holy book that can be used to support both positions is not a holy book, it's just a book, that's all there is to be said about it.
It always feels like Abby is right on the cusp of realizing the implications of the things she says... maybe that's why she stutters so much here
“She puts Christian before Jew in her language”. I can speak on this too! Part of this has to do with the overlap of Christianity and conservative politics in the US. The second part is that a lot of US Jewish people have unintentionally absorbed Christian values and Christian ideas of God and Heaven through cultural osmosis. We’re a religious minority and some assimilation has already happened. Also, we’re used to deferring to Christian Americans to make them feel comfortable about the difference in beliefs.
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in UA-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️.
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I think marketing is primary, but she is so comfortable with it because conservative politics has blended Christianity and Judaism, and Christianity is supreme. I did not realize Heaven and Hell had come to overlap so.
My 2 pennies. The "moral" stances are purely political. The use of religion is just for rationalization.
great point
Sounds like Abby is trying to reconcile why she's so deeply unhappy and how it's not her fault.
yes, I imagine none of it has anything to do with being Jewish in the USA right now! /s D:
she has plenty reasons to be miserable, but the rise in antisemitism should worry everyone
@@aazhie Well...I'm sure the Evangelical Christian fanbase that she's courting will have her back should things turn south. Also /s.
@@Explodington but i thought it was a given that it's not "our fault", it's all because of the FALL... isn't it? ^^ (i mean i can't even imagine how she justifies the view that it was made broken from the start.)
@@irrelevant_noob That's where she got it wrong. God is merely an incompetent, vindictive doofus. Adam, Even, and their talking snake pal outsmarted god and ruined his plans. So now everything's bad all the time and god's hands are clean.
@@Explodington Don't you find it strange that Ben Shapiro courts that same base? I don't get it.
If I try to overcome strife in my family, am I working against god's plan? Asking for... a friend.
You're cruising for a smiting...
“asking for a friend” works better when you keep the subject in the statement vague
(ie. “if _someone_ tries to overcome … are _they_ working against … etc etc”)
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There’s always an out. They’d say that was God pointing you to a solution. But if you make a mistake, that’s all you you sinful human.
Screw God's plan. Pursue your happiness as long as it does not cause unneeded pain.
every story i've heard about real life "striving for perfection" has always ended up with people being diagnosed with severe anxiety lmao
Lol as someone with anxiety seizures, that feeling of imperfection is definitely in that mix.
We strive for the archetypical vision outline Biblically and refined by extensive religious scholarship. We do not demand perfection, but rather we admit to our inevitable shortcomings, and the journey we take with Jesus is a compassionate one and not one of self-hatred or cruelty
@@maxbrown8044what archetype? There are several models of perfection.
My later thought was that this acceptance of strife, can very easily slide into acceptance of abuse.
And there are many many examples of that in their book
Yeah I noticed that too, she really doesn't say anything about when strife is healthy and when it's not. Like sure it's normal to argue with your family now and then, or go through a hard time, but it's also not good if it's always hard and painful
Yeah, when people talk about it like this it always makes me a bit uncomfortable. Chances are it's just them trying to mesh biblical horrors with a loving god, but I always worry that there's some abuse going on. Either an abuser trying to excuse their own actions, or a victim trying to stockholm their way through it.
Or the acceptance of religion.
It depends how you define acceptance. Regardless of how bad a situation is, I think it is still positive when one can derive comfort and a sense of empowerment to best navigate it. By saying essentially that people "are not alone," in that they are a member of a plan orchestrated by a higher authority, it can at least grant individuals a sense of purpose and place, perhaps better enabling them to carry on and maybe even make things better
When Abby was giving examples of family strife in Genesis, she missed Cain and Able. Now there's some strife for you!
Apparently orchestrated by god's plan?
@@Eric_01 of course, how else would he create vampires : So the lord put a mark on Cain, so that no one would kill him at sight.
Jelly B Peanutson would put out a hit on her if she stole his content
@@Eric_01 That's what intrigues me the most about the whole olan thing. If it fits their mindset then everything is part of his plan, yet when I say that Judas' betrayal was also God's plan, suddenly I'm being blasphemous
@@Hanatatami If one reads the Gospel of Judas, it portrays that disciple as the only one among the rest who understood the plan.
So comforting that there's a god out there that wants us to suffer
There isn't. Find even more comfort in that.
Religious fundamentalists: "What if Gnosticism, but we worship the Demiurge responsible for all suffering :)"
Many many moons ago I married the eldest son of a polygamist. Two of his wives were sisters but by the time I entered the family both of them had left their husband (after 30 years of marriage). I once asked them what it was like being sisters and wives and they both just kinda shrugged and said it was easier to deal with each other than the other wives as they had already grown up together and knew how to communicate. The church they used to attend would try to push the men to marry sisters because it was easy to convince them and they were less likely to fight.
Gross
And yet while the Bible does not prohibit polygamy, it does prohibit a man from marrying a woman and her sister. (And yes, Jacob did that, but the law had not been given yet).
This is literally just like someone strategizing during a video game-run to complete all the side quests simply to say they finally beat the entire game.
It's not even about anyone enjoying themselves or gaining anything from it, they're just doing it for the sake of saying they did it.
I drink Polygyny Pilsner - "When you aren't satisfied with only one."
That is a true beer lablel from Utah.
So in Abby's mind, her god promotes family abuse.
I mean, have you read the bible?
I don't care what culture they lived in back then,giving your daughter to a man without her consent is enabling rape! Giving your "hand-slave"to your husband to have his child is also rape and a most grievous form of slavery!
P.S.-How cold hearted were these biblical men,anyway?
Most of it is about how we need to turn to old men to tell us how to live.
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in UA-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
The Old Testament is very weird, especially considering how prophets were able to kill indiscriminately and get away with it. Elijah torched 100 men for no reason whatsoever, and Elisha killed 42 kids for poking fun at him. Good times...
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in UA-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
And so? Why do you even care? Why do you care in a book you do not even believe in? Let me guess another western godless and souless idiots that wants follow only his own instincts but they change all the time???
In the Bible, if a woman was found not to be a virgin on her wedding night(?)she would be stoned to death in front of her father's house! (Deut.22:20-21) That's straight-up cold-blooded barbarrionism!
Actually, god killed those kids for making fun of the bald idiot. Even better, don't you think? I mean, when you call down a curse in the name of the lord, isn't it the lord that does the deed after that?
"To the people that created our faith..." So close, yet so far away lol
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in UA-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
2:47
the old geezers sitting around the fire in the desert minding their goats, knowing nothing about the world beyond their noses.
@@cocobunitacobuni8738 What? Let me guess another western godless and souless idiot?
@@Mar-dk3mp yes godless and soulless and definitely not following some palestinian middle eastern bronze age religion that condones slavery and capital punishment
Wait. So does that mean that Abby thinks happy healthy families that don’t fuck each other over are Not a part of “god’s plan?!”
Different plan. :)
yes, hardcore christians try to tell themselves the kids will grow up to be psychopaths without violence to keep them in line, and the husband is a cuck who lets his wife walk all over him (does what she wants without needing his permission like an adult)
25:40-25:50
I think it's obvious that Abby is struggling to reconcile what she knows to be true with what she's been taught to believe is true. But I get the sense that she's also struggling with something else,something deep down inside her heart that she doesn't want to admit,especially to herself.
My first thought in this video was that Abby sounds *_tired._*
With all the attempts at justifying stuff and saying "It's all part of God's plan; it's all part of God's plan; it's all part of God's plan," it started to sound like she was talking herself into staying in an abusive relationship.
She is clearly struggling with the script
@@Sableagle yeah, that's what I thought too! She looks and sounds exhausted. I'm pretty sure she's got a toddler running around so that can make you want to jump off the roof. But she usually at least pretends to be chipper and happy, and makes it a point to look impeccable. But in this video she just looks and sounds all out of sorts.
Do you think she's trying to convince others, or herself?
Yes,@@andrewjenkins9965.
I have so many major personal issues with the "all part of the plan" mentality.
And that's why everyday I do the work and almost every day I get better.
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in UA-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
If the shit my family has gone through or done to each other is all part of the plan it's a lousy plan and I feel justified ignoring it. Besides, if it's ALL part of the plan anything we do is part of the plan and we might as well do what we see as best.
@@sarahr8311 I hope you are well and finding positive outlets.
I always sound more serious than I intend to, I have found a very good path for myself.
Still, I appreciate the reminder that other people understand. Thank you.
Besides, didn't god's plan get thwarted by the very first two humans and a talking snake? I wouldn't put too much stock in that guy's machinations.
@@Explodington that's the balance:
Weak God or terrible God
Classically Abby: Citation needed for all your assertions, especially for your god.
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in UA-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
God: n. ref *see God*
@@paulpinecone2464 western godless and souless idiot response... How to pity those idiots?
But May God bless them anyway
@@Mar-dk3mp Message received. Operation Western Godless commences at midnight. If any of your agents are caught or martyred, the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of your deity.
Source: Dude, just trust me.
I love Genesis too, especially after Phil Collins took over vocals
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in UA-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
Your opinion is popular and understandable, and also wrong. Prog rock is delightful loopy fun and Peter Gabriel was at the top of his game as a story teller and showman.
@@joelpartee594 BUT...if he had stayed with Genesis, would we have gotten the album "So"? No "So", no "In Your Eyes, no Loyd Dobler standing in the rain with a boombox, and the very FABRIC of the universe would have eventually unraveled.
To me, it sounded more like she was trying to reassure her own self because of some strife in her life.
Abby: "What I find so fascinating of Genesis is [...] the relationships with the children."
Me: *flashbacks of Lot's daughters r-wording their dad*
dude, don`t talk about Genesis that way! that is sacrilege! they are one of the best prog rock bands in history, mainly because of Phil, but they are amazing!
""The Phantom of the Opera is a romance. So is Dracula." -- Abby
"As an Orthodox rabbi" is a really pretentious way to start a sentence, but I'm more offended as someone who loves this portion. It's all about reconciliation, facing family trauma, accepting difference. Somehow Abby makes it about looking up to people we shouldn't look up to.
often when someone presents a topic off-the-cuff like Abby's doing, they're suddenly aware of the gaps in their understanding or in the material. Maybe thats why she seems to struggle awkwardly in this format? Here's hoping!!
When I was “traditional”, I was unmarried and videos like this always made me feel so unworthy because I wasn’t married. I have always hated the “idolatry” of the family within Christian traditions.
I've known people who stick with horrible people because they are family. I would have flipped them the middle finger long ago.
@@snowqueen51 I'll dump anyone who doesn't respect me in a heartbeat. Family doesn't mean anything to me other than who I share genetics with. Haven't spoken to my father in 3 years, mother in 19 years, and brother in 20 years. Never will again.
The family is the most important sphere in a human being's life, which has been demonstrated extensively in sociology, anthropology, psychology, etc. It's the source of most of life's fulfillment, an integral aspect of the continuation of our species, and the very bedrock of civilization. That doesn't mean that someone who is not married should be vilified, but it does mean we should encourage people to prioritize their families and create healthy ones for themselves and within their communities.
I think what’s extra sad about Leah’s story is that it wasn’t just that she was made to marry Jacob, but back then the fact that she’s the one who slept with him on the wedding night (which is kind of a double SA situation on the father’s part if you think about it - Leah’s consent isn’t taken at all into account and Jacob did not consent to have sex with Leah) meant that she would be considered unmarriagable from then on if Jacob rejected her because she wasn’t a virgin anymore. So whether or not she wanted to be there at all, this was the only security she was going to be allowed.
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in UA-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
Yeah the whole story is absolutely terrible
its an awful message from a supposed benevolent god
Not to mention Jacob was so drunk he couldn’t tell that he was marrying and sleeping with the other sister 🤦♀️
Even as a very young kid, when I hadn't even thought about questioning religion yet, and also didn't yet know what sex was, I remember thinking what a horrible situation this whole story was.
1:30 I don't go much for Genesis. I much prefer The Hobbit, even over LoTR. However for anyone considering reading Genesis, I _do_ recommend the version by R. Crumb, fully illustrated in his usual style. He doesn't change a word of it. He just adds the much needed illustrations.
6:30 Yes, some of the family relationships in Genesis were quite interesting. Let's not forget Lot and his daughters. Genesis 19 : 30-38 That was an interesting episode.
16:30 Emma, it's interesting to hear you talk about the position of slaves and women at the same time. The daughters, women given to the men as "wives", effectively have no more freedom than the handmaidens, the slaves. The only difference is that the wives can have slaves as well as be slaves, whereas the slaves have virtually no possessions.
21:50 She sounds like she's struggling in her own life. It sounds like she's talking about herself. It will be interesting to see if she's able to maintain this "traditional role" and if not, how the threads come unraveled.
HBO needs to do a series in the spirit of Game of Thrones based on the Old Testament. It's not all that different in tone.
Wasn't that GoT? I thought it was a biblical drama!
Some microphones or recording software have settings that attempt to cut out background noise by not recording any sound if the decibel level is below a certain threshold. If it's not well implemented, it has the effect you hear in Abby's video, where you hear the background noise cutting in and out as she speaks.
Oooh! This reminds me of one of my favorite books: *The Red Tent* by Anita Diamant!!
Such a good book, I *HIGHLY* recommend it. Diamant created a beautiful life story about Dinah, the daughter of Leah, the only daughter in the whole Jacob-Leah-Rachel-Billah-Zilpha family.
Dinah is such a small character in the Bible, she has no voice of her own, her little blip of a story isn’t even from her POV. And I love what Diamant did with this biblical character, what she did *for* Dinah’s story. Actually made her the main character and narrator of her own life.
Diamant herself is Jewish, but there’s nothing religious about this book (meaning no religious agenda, teachings, etc.) I say this so that no one is deterred from reading it, worried that religious beliefs might be forced on the reader. The beliefs and gods of Dinah’s parents are talked about, who they are, and sacred rituals practiced, but that’s it.
So, with that said, go read it if you haven’t yet, and if you have, leave a comment about it! I’m hoping there are lots of people who love this story as much as I do (but I’m certainly open to listening to any literary criticisms, lol!) ❤❤❤
Funnily enough this is one of the books that was deemed "acceptable" and "safe" for "good Christian girls" to read by my Church and one of the books that actually broke my faith the hardest. LMAO
@@kokkeibunni07 oh my goodness, that’s hilarious and crazy! If you don’t mind me asking: In the book, what was it that broke your faith?
Read a bit of it a while ago, not my cup of tea but I can see the appeal :)
"Don't worry about the strife in your family, worry about the all-powerful being who did that to you on purpose."
Didn't Abby mention that her podcast would be unedited? Maybe she should rethink that.
3:44 The sound is likely the resonant frequency in the room, which is one of the frequencies in Abby’s voice. If there is a constant hum, it’s very subtle and possibly reduced, but that pitch was too powerful. Altering microphone’s position and gain could reduce that, I think…
I find it so troubling that there's an element of "rape's okay as long as the woman is a slave". It feels so icky.
There are certain moments in Abby's video that she seems in genuine emotional distress. Like,,, family trauma kinda distress.
Re: Abby's background noise. She's using a noise filter for her mic. My money is on the RNN noise filter in OBS. It sounds an awful lot like that. The end result is it sounds like OBS is just cutting off the microphone whenever speech is not detected, and when speech is detected, the microphone comes back on, background noise and all.
She's unhappy. She has serious doubts about her life and relationships. She's desperately trying to justfy herself - to persuade herself that actually everything is how it ought to be.
You know, for an all loving and good God, his followers sure blame him for an unbelievably high amount of bad things
The part of God's plan that brings strife into the world, is when he gave us free will.
I mean, he created the world so he is technically ultimately responsible for everything, good and bad, under Christian doctrine. Human beings, however, are the proximal cause of all of this, including the commission of acts of sin
“Abby, do you have your own family struggle? Blink twice if you need help…”
i always thought the rachel-leah situation WAS jacobs cosmic punishment for deception. 7 more years of labour bc his uncle did the same switcharoo to him that he did to his father
Yes, I thought that was well established too.
The Torah portion she chose is based on a regular calendrical cycle through the Torah. There's a different reading each week starting from Rosh Hashanah. The one she went over was the reading for the last week of December, which I'm guessing is when she filmed/taped.
This is why audio should be done by professionals, There is probably a noise in the room. Heater, fridge, air con, whatever, and they're using a noise gate to quiet the parts between the words, but the gate is opening slowly when she speaks and goes over the gate threshold, and it's cutting off the beginning of her words.
It sounds to me like a ground loop hum or similar, and nobody figured out how to remove it with a filter.
My headset amp has a 3.5mm plug for an external mic and if I don't ground it or connect it, it picks up interference.
It's easy to get interference, but someone who has all kinds of money and probably a producer ought to fix this before recording for the public.
@@fluffysheap that is definitely not a ground loop hum.
*advocates for traditional (religious) values* : "let me, a woman, read from the Torah and explain what it means"
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in UA-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️...
@@Mar-dk3mp oh hi, Mark!
There are hundreds of women rabbis in America.
@@SC-jh9qp imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in UA-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
@@SC-jh9qp Orthodox rabbis? How very progressive of them...
When Cain killed Able, for punishment God sent Cain to the nearest Village to take a Wife, where did all those people come from when there are only 3 people left ?
"Blame Abby, Not Me!" Sounds like a great merch idea! I love Genesis too! A Trick of the Tail is one of my favorite albums! LOL! Spot on analysis of Abby's podcast.
What she's displaying is the fascist belief in essentialism. Fascists like herself and her brother have a core belief that "Things are the way they are, because that's the way it is ". The very opposite of progressivism.
Thank you.
It is sad that so many fail to realize that the way things are aren't the way they should be.
Well, imperfection itself is essential to our being, in that we should never realistically envision a society in which, for instance, "familial strife" is non-existent. That doesn't mean that we should not work to improve or navigate things, personally or societally, nor is anyone arguing otherwise
i can swear abby is sooo unhappy but cant prove it
Emma this video is spot on …. Classically Abbie is a strange and bizarre person….
The way you pull her apart with your usual humour and sarcasm is an absolute joy…..
And the outfit really suits ya Emma ….
"Go back talking about your hair"
-Emma Thorne January 21 2023
That buzzing sound is the flies buzzing around in Abby's head.
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in UA-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️.
@@Mar-dk3mp I have never said a god does not exist - I would happily believe in one if anyone could present some good evidence he exists. I don't know what you mean about having "no community" - there is a great Atheist community around the whole world. Why do you suggest not having a god makes us sad or lacking somehow? I presume you are talking about the Biblical God? Even if I found he did exist I would never worship such an evil, genocidal monster.
God doesn't exist in much the same way Santa doesn't exist. Except most adults accept that Santa is fictional.
The flies are attracted to all the bullshit.
@@DruncanUK what you did not get about the fact if you exist that means ( that beside your parents) someone had created you and this universe??? What?
But you western godless idiots are highly hipocrite therefore you would not answer or accept those as evidences...
How to pity you?
And no you got no actually community and who said the opposite is a western godless ipocrite
But may God bless you anyway
Off topic, but I just want to say how much I admire your clear communication skills! Watching your videos is always a treat!
My theory: she's secretly hinting at a divorce
Dang... you may be on to something
Or her husband brought home a handmaid 🤣
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in UA-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
@@killallrobots2001 imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in UA-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
@@DrElementary imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in UA-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
16:42 _"There's quite a bit of struggle, that's built into & baked into the Torah."_
> Only if you take it seriously / as doctrin & not as a myth.
The problem is that a lot of people take this literally and not allegorically as it was likely intended to be
@@Uneclipsed True, but even the _allegorical_ take of the stories is (almost) always bad.
Which doctrine? Christian? Jewish? Jewish doctrine being read from a christian understanding of what doctrine is?
I think of her, and those like her, as basically "Americhristian" Jews(or my father and I have also used the term "Born Again" Jewish). Basically because of their societal environment growing up, they're really extreme/evangelical/American born again(whatever term you wanna go with) Christians, except being from Jewish backgrounds they identify as Jewish, and basically just ignore any directly Jesus stuff.
In other words, they're technically Jewish by faith, but they're culturally evangelical Christians.
I always get exited when you post, love the great content 💖
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in UA-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
Heh - I got about half-way through Genesis, then thought "This is just plain crazy", and gave up.
This whole "strife is just something you need to deal with" thing can actually be quite harmful, especially when combined with typical religious opposition to divorce, because that means someone can be convinced that they should stay in a bad relationship.
Of course things won't be perfect, and you should fix some problems, and accept others, but sometimes you also just need to get out of there.
I guess some people have more 'strife' than others, huh Abby?
Has anyone ever seen Abby and Ben at the same time?
This really feels like “are the straights okay” lol
The answer to why does we have debates, why does God not just tell is might be 'well, he did. And then we munched from the tree'.
Maybe?
I really don't think she knows how utterly damaging and traumatizing it is to tell people that god not only knows your family strife but made it happen. My mom and I were victims of DV last month, my dad beat the shit out of us for the first time in my 29 years of life. I'm not religious because I already got that catholic trauma, got the t-shirt, left. But in that post-catholic traumatized state, hearing someone hint that the trouble in my family is god's design? I feel like that ripped my emotional stability for the day to shreds. If god is real and it was his idea for my dad to punch me in the teeth, he's going to answer to me someday.
Abby seems to have a very shallow comprehension. Hope U haven't been harmed permanently.
amen!
If I was a sibling of those two I might think that too...
and not understand that conflict resolution and working towards bettering our families is possible.
Some people have the “gift” of saying a lot of words without actually saying much at all.
The humming is because she has her laptop on a table and the microphone on the same table without using a spring-suspended mike stand. The microphone picks up the vibrations of the laptops fan and struggles trying to filter them out. That means the automatic noisegate is dialed up to eleven and produces these extreme cutoffs every time she stops to speak. Even if she doesn't know how to use the noisegate settings, she could have easily fixed it by just putting the microphone on a mousepad (which would have stopped the tables vibations from being passed on to the microphone).
"She can't name any of the mothers."
Oof, that's brutal.
But true.
Trutal.
...
THORNE WINS! TRUTALITY!
Okay, I'm done.
This was a weird thing to say because the names of all of the mothers are recorded in Genesis.
@@fluffysheap
Sure, but Abby didn't name any specifically after giving all those specific names of male characters. To be fair, she named some later in the video, so it's not accurate to say that she didn't know them. But it definitely implies that she sees them as more secondary.
The weirdness with her voice is probably because she's using a noise remover. It can remove background noise, but struggles to do so when you're speaking.
I guess the humming sound is her AC. The recording equipment suppresses all noise when she is not talking, so the humming disappears when she pauses. At least that's what I believe it is.
Not until this episode did I realise Emma is saying "colossal quackers" not "colossal quokkas" - it makes so much more sense!
I love Genesis too! Selling England By The Pound is my favourite album of theirs.
Never apologise for interrupting ol' Classically Abby!
My favorite from Genesis is "Jesus He Knows Me".
Jesus knows everyone, yet, kinda like the shy geek at the disco/night club, just can't pluck up the courage to introduce himself to everyone he 'knows'. Though reading the bible, when people 'know' each other, I wouldn't feel comfortable 'knowing' Jesus. Maybe that's why he chose not to marry, 'Knowing' billions around the world, he is a bit of a tart in my book.
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in UA-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
@@briannewton3535 imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in UA-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
@@briannewton3535 why western godless and souless idiot makes stupid jokes? Because they Do not have an Holly books or God
So sad people.
But May God bless them as well
@@Mar-dk3mp I am curious, what is the difference between western godless people, and eastern godless people? Are the differences significant, or is it simply that the western godless and eastern godless simply laugh at different doctrines? Is it that a godless eastern person laughs at the idea that an eastern god gets seriously upset that when eastern women are in a public place with bare arms or shoulders, and that she has really offended Allah and has sinned terribly, whereas a godless western person laughs at the idea that an eastern god feels that if western people eat shrimp, or wears poly-cotton socks that Yahweh is deeply offended that they have done these terrible things, and have sinned terribly?
I don’t have to imagine being godless and soulless, as technically, I’m both godless and soulless. It has not been demonstrated that either exist. I don’t believe that any supernatural beings exist, do you believe that fairies, pixies, and goblins exist? I certainly don’t.
Once you can demonstrate that anyone/anything other than my parents had a hand in creating me then you will have a point, until then, I will ignore your silliness.
Are you suggesting that I don’t have community? The photo club community that I am part of are fun, some are quiet and geeky, and there is also a Christian in our community, a nice lady actually. The cycling community I am part of is fun also, though I don’t get out as often as many there. It is fun as there is a real mix of characters.
I don’t understand what you are trying to convey when you state *"imagine to… deny God and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in UA-cam”* Personally, I view 'atheist' as simply a descriptor for who I am, I had no choice in being described in this way. _My_ take on being an atheist is, it's not _MY_ idea. I’m an atheist because of someone ELSE'S belief, not mine, it has nothing to do with me. I don't even want to be atheist.
With regard to you saying "May God bless you anyway.” I would rather I didn’t get blessed by a racist, bigoted, misogynistic god with a penchant for genocide, and who advocates for slavery. If getting blessed by a supernatural being, I would prefer it being someone with better morals. Santa Clause would be better, he loves kids from all races and backgrounds, and additionally doesn’t subjugate those who don’t believe that he exists, to an eternity of torment in the hell.
I hope you get blessed by your particular god, however immoral it may be.
[edit] Sadly @Mar has chosen to delete their comments, so this was what I was replying to:
@Brian Newton imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in UA-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺...
We have literally no idea the culture people today are superimposing their beliefs on. The funniest part is when you dig down and find out what certain things and phrases meant in their own cultural context it just makes the religious that much more of a satire.
Religious texts have been refined through many centuries of translation and religious scholarship. Translators have created countless interpretations of the text befitting of certain chronological and geographical contexts, and then contemporary scholars have dedicated their lives to compiling all this work and creating comprehensive compilations and adjoining commentary to educate the religiously learned. Many people practice religion superficially, but those with the care and intelligence certainly have the resources to understand a good bit of the Bible and see how it relates to the real world and the church's teachings
I totally agree with you, Genesis is ... umm... intriguing, and errm entertaining.
No hate like christian love.
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in UA-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
Not hipocrite as western godless hipocrite that love to talk behind our back...
But May God bless them as well
"You see jim, the reason I drink the dizzy water and beat you senseless everytime I get home. Is because the good god designed it to be that way."
“God made strife” wow. That’s a way to never smash the status quo if I ever heard one.
God made strife when he granted us free will.
Thank you for a really good video. I must say that the more I listen to Abby go on and on about familial strife and how that is just normal and okay -cuz god- the more it seems to me that her family is in a state of strife and she is trying to rationalize it. Makes me wonder how her marriage is going.
abby must spend more on her hair in a week than i spend on beer in a year.
Then you're going to have to try harder.
A bald man spends more on his hair that I do on beer.
Numbered list!
1) Yes, you pretty much nailed it -- the person who processed the audio (or perhaps just a default setting in the recording software) used a noise gate to attempt to quiet things like the refrigerator compressor or an AC vent or the laundry machines in the next room. If you don't pay attention to the settings you get this result (noise under speech, clipped off word starts), which is often more distracting than just leaving the environmental noise stand!
2) She's not a Christian or a Jew, she's part of the converging religion called "Conservatanity", which is pretty much just that same post-War vibe that you mention, anti-feminist anti-progress "golden age" that their kind get turgid for, all wrapped up in a vague monotheistic sky-daddy candy shell, easy to swallow, and that absolves one from the accountability of individual choice.
3) So much of the lives of their kind is wrapped up in the avoidance of discomfort. They like distinct binary systems, or at least ones that can clearly be classified. But here we see the intense aversion to cognitive dissonance. Of course family strife is sh!tty, so why would God allow it? He's infallible, after all! How can these BOTH be true? Well, umm... AHA! That must mean that it's all part of His design! All part of The Plan!
4) People like this are unconvinced of their own mediocrity, and overestimate their abilities. It's not so much that she's under-confident in her abilities as overconfident and reaching beyond her grasp. She figured, "All I need is a topic and I can wing it". Sure, first-timers can get this wrong and soon learn to write a script, but the fact that she still put this rambling mess out kinda indicates that she thinks it went swimmingly.
I'm glade I'm not the only one who sees that acting like strife in the family is God's design just comes off as an excuse for abusers to use instead of holding them accountability for their actions
I can definitely see an abuser making that interpretation, & exploiting it. Confronting abuse is a source of strife as well though.
Feels like she's self reporting.
"child abuse is fine actually" -- Abby probably
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in UA-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
@@brookehansen6973 imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in UA-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️.
@@Mar-dk3mp I'm gonna rebuke your blessing because I don't want that nastiness on me.
When I was a believer, I was the worst version of me and I was miserable. I struggled liking things or being happy in my own skin. Religion was also used against me as a weapon of abuse.
Atheists do have a difficult time building a community but they do exist. A big one is the Atheist Community of Austin in Texas and they have some ways you can find support and even therapy without the taint of religion.
If there is a god -- And I'm not convinced there is -- he is the most *immoral* being in existence and I want nothing to do with him until he appears and makes a personal apology for the life of non-stop suffering I've experienced.
So until that happens, there is no god and I decide my own purpose and direction. I am my own person.
At least I don't have an imaginary friend hanging over my shoulder to judge my every breath, which you do have.
But I wish you a gentle deconversion anyway.
The noise was there the last time. I blame her God
It was his plan all along.
God intends us to have some strife in our audio.
God: Abby... shhh... stop talking... there's a bit in my Best Selling book about this... Abby
1:30 - I love Genesis as well. I'm partial the period between Peter Gabriel's exit and Steve Hackett's departure.
This was a pretty nice deconstruction of all the contradicting things that some religious people want to use as living "correctly".
As for the thing you mentioned at 24:22 : Noise reduction through the use of noise gates, with noise gates' settings being set way to strict causing that type of "swallowing the first letter of every word".
We had a company built a new speech amplifying system in city hall (we broadcasted the town council meetings with local television) and even though the old system was also not adjusted properly, it got way WAY worse with the new system: it almost sounded like the noise gate was set so strict that it was swallowing the letters of each word someone was saying because it adjusted absolutely always because a pause had to be so short in order for it not to intervene, it would require someone to talk so much it would be a stupid tempo.
A lot of people are incapable of critically listening to the sound of what they record and just throw a noise-gate or noise reduction plugin on their audio track and think they are done. It's probably also why her voice sounds like a low-bitrate MP3: most default settings of noise reduction plugins cause this when filtering for hums and hisses.
Life is hard and relationships are no exception. I’d think an attitude of “we can work it out” is healthier and more helpful than “whoops strife is god’s plan”. Also that outfit looks nice imo.
Kinda like a cool modern twist with some 90’s Jean vibes. It works.
I might be biased about the jean jacket though. They are big in my family XD
True. We all have flaws. Getting rid of them when we don't have a family, is complicated enough. When we have a family, everyone else's flaws & conflict is involved too.
Whatever happened to "God doesn't give you too much that you can't bear"?
"I LOVE Genesis! I really like the part when they turn on the lights!"
I didn't notice the humming sound that happens when she talks until you mentioned it Emma! lol
Emma, thank you, as always, for watching this sort of content so that we don't have to. ♥♥♥♥
i couldnt agree more
Pity God. He sees all of UA-cam. Think about that.
@@paulpinecone2464 skill issues
@@NIHIL_EGO "Uh, Satan? I know you are seriously evil but this is just..."
"Sorry my dude. Can't take credit for this one. I took a page from your book and tore my eyes out months ago."
Archangels: "FLOOD FLOOD FLOOD FLOOD!"
I love Genesis! Duke was the best album.
Nice. If I had to choose one album, it'd be Seconds Out.
Second vote for Seconds Out
Some say it wasn't the same after Peter Gabriel left.
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in UA-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️..
@@floepiejane imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in UA-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️...
I think Abby’s worldview endorses the song Hasa Diga Eebowai
I think the background hum when she talks is because her microphone is probably set to automatically mute itself when she isn't speaking, but because she isn't in a soundproof environment there's additional background noise that can only be picked up when the mic is on which is really jarring
yea, Genesis is a pretty great band. Phil Collins rules.
The hum is 50 or 60 Hz plus their harmonics, because of making a blog with a cheap mic in a kitchen. Your vocals, Emma, are excellent. You have a good voice, a good mic, good acoustics and you post-process them very good.
60 hz because us power is 120v 60hz
It is definitely not 60 Hz power supply hum.
Emma has such a nice voice she really ought to consider a side gig narrating audio books.
It's a fairly inexpensive USB mic but I use those all the time and they just don't randomly pick up 60 Hz hum. And her house looks very contemporary and modern and I'm guessing the wiring and grounding is fine. So no, it's definitely not a 60 Hz issue. It's an ambient sound in the room.
@@Wizardofgosz I've checked it with an audio spectrum analyser, it's 120 Hz, the second harmonic of 60 Hz. There's also a gate used to silence it between the sentences.
I love Genesis too! But not since Peter Gabriel left...
I was not expecting the rockin' outro music! :)