I was there on the pit wall while it was happening, watching on the multi-panel TV feed behind the Ferrari team as they came around that last lap - we lost sight of them on the trackside cameras as they came through 17 due to the dust and haze at night, so this feed right here is what we were all watching. Needless to say when Jaime made that pass on Jorg the Ferrari team exploded, it was pretty epic "down-&-dirty" GT racing.
I was standing above the _Risi Competizione_ pits watching this unfold before my eyes. I could see their headlights as the two cars made their way around turn 17 coming onto the front straight. It was difficult to tell which car was which, or who was ahead, but I could definitely see them touch each other as they went wide around the final turn. I thought it was going to result in a huge accident just before the finish line! Absolutely incredible racing moment.
i was there up in a pit box for the first time in the 5 or so years i've been going. it was def pretty exciting finish. at the end you cna barely see that the porsche got into him right before turn 1 after the race was over.
In my opinion, the best finish to a road race EVER. (Ricky Craven and Kurt Busch at Darlington in 2003 beats it out for the best ever... but only by the slimmest of margins. And Sebring was a better race--and this coming from someone who started out with NASCAR!) No penalties were issued; the officials ruled it hard, clean, take-no-prisoners racing. THIS is why I love this sport.
Ahh good point... just checked the video again, it's Melo who fought for the win. My bad - the rest of my statements still stand, though. I was standing next to the winning Audi R-10 on pit lane snapping pictures at the time, so I didn't see the battle first-hand, and I didn't see who got out of the Ferrari when it pulled up behind me; there were many people in a very small space! Anyway, Melo, Salo, both are world class drivers (and Jorg in the Porsche too, for that matter).
To me, this announcing team (Leigh Diffey, Dorsey Schroeder and Calvin Fish) reminds me of the Page/Posey/Unser team at the Indy 500, it's a similar style and passion for the sport.
What a great lap and an even better last pass. Both drivers were driving aggresively it was Jorge race to lose and he lost it, but not running a tighter line through the last turn. You people complaining of the bumping are either not familiar with racing or are HPDE weenies who aren't familiar with any aspect of racecraft. Ask any driver in the paddock if they would have done the same, and I guarantee you they will say "heck yes".
In the end Jaime Melo Cheated. You can see how his car unloads to impede the Porsche when they were next to each other. Bergmeister held the outside line. It was deliberate. The race stewards decided it would be too controversial to penalize Melo. It was adorable how a simple illegal move was permitted to win that race.
I'm referring to the first contact, at 2:07 - Jorg clearly comes in. There's nothing wrong with that move, totally fine, but with Melo still fighting that led to contact. When they track out at 2:10 and hit door-to-door...remember, Melo was on double-stint tires, which didn't have much grip left, so I see Melo simply running out of track, with Jorg's Porsche in the way. Holding his line AFTER the contact, forcing Jorg to pull in behind, is the really aggressive part. Still legal, though.
when it came down to it, no matter what, GREAT FINISH. I dont care wether either the Porshe and/or the Ferrari was racing dirty, great finish. Shouldn't of protested at all!
I believe you are referring to contacts at 2:07 and 2:10. At 2:07, the Ferrari's LF fender hits the Porsche's RR fender - that's wheel-to-wheel in a turn, and legal. Jorg tried to cut of Melo's line, and Melo stayed on it (Melo cornered from a better turn-in spot, but had worn-out tires). The contact at 2:10 is completely DOOR-TO-DOOR...fully legal, too. You say it was illegal, but IMSA has NOT overturned the results, declaring otherwise. It's simply a classic GT last-turn battle.
Don't call anyone an ass before you know all the facts. This is not a privateer class only. There's heavy Porsche and Ferrari (and Panoz) factory support in GT2. For a while Porsche provided factory-supported drivers for teams adhering to Porsche's 'winning formula'.
"By your logic, Jorg should have tapped Melo a few times" ... No, THAT would be illegal if it was intentional. From what I see in this video, Jaime was faster out of the turn, and Jorg was there, still holding on to the outside of the turn, pushed wide by the contact at 2:07. When they hit at 2:10, JAIME is on the racing line, and JORG is wide. The track wall then narrows there on the left by just over a car width, so Jorg had no place to go without ducking back in. That's racing.
Dang 500 char limit. At 3:13, I see them touch, also, but there's nothing wrong with that contact, either. Melo was to the outside, and Jorg came out on him. Where Melo turned in immediately after that contact shows you the line through 17. I see Jorg trying to push Melo wide on the entry to 17, and Melo ducking back underneath. If Melo HAS to turn in or be in the marbles, he did the right thing...he MAKES room for himself, classic GT driving. That's why sportscars are my favs, even over F1.
The Porsche did get knocked around by the Ferrari and I'd be pissed if I were the Porsche driver, but I would have done the same thing if I were the Ferrari. Good race. And F1 drivers do NOT scratch each other up... it's open wheel racing. In all the close finishes I've ever watched they will get close to knocking, but flinch off at the last second... same desired effect, but definitely not bumping.
so, who has the best TV coverage? Anyway, that was a great finish. I think the Ferrari went overboard. The bumper hit was fine, but he did about run the Porsche in the wall coming to the flag.
The Ferrari deserved to go into the wall ;). If Bergmeister would have driven like Melo, Melo would have been in the wall much earlier in the lap. But a lot of the times it's the driver that is the most brutal that will win. Sadly gentleman drivers don't always win.
nascar is stagged in comparison with this amazing stuff. there were just two freaking caution periods in this endurance race and a finish like this took place.
2009 Sebring 12 hours is almost here...I will camp out there all four days...I hope I am sober enough to remember the finish...Ohh well there is always Tivo...heheheh
+Starky513 There's an expression in GT racing: 8 wheels turn better than 4. The marshals there deemed it "fair racing contact" in that final corner, because if you look the Porsche comes in some on the Ferrari's line mid-corner (right when the camera angle changes as they pass under the bridge) probably to make Jaime in the Ferrai check up some and fall back... and that mistake by Jorg caused him to go wide when Jaime stayed in the slot and tapped the Porsche's rear right corner. Then Jaime just capitalized on that like any good GT racer should do and drove the Porsche to the outside where the tire wall comes in and the Porsche had to check up and duck under. Jaime's tires were totally shot on that Ferrari by that time too, so it was very impressive that he held his position going through 17 against Jorg in the Porsche, and then kinda "turnabout is fair play" when he drove the Porsche outside the line afterwards.
Dear 1bangkok in Cina Porsche GT3 was excluded from the results (was lower then legal ride height)and Ferrari won. F430 won also in Silverstone and Bucarest. In FIA Championship 2006 F430 won 9 times on 10 races and won also American lemans series. GT3 997 is not able to match a Ferrari F430. This is a fact.
ever recall when robin liddell was driving a Panoz Esperante GTLM at Road Atlanta in spring, 2005 and got hit by a porsche? there has been much more dirty racing tactics in ALMS before. as for the Fiat/Ferrari comment, a porsche would be a rebadged vw in that sense. Jaime Melo and Mika Salo have the first four races of the ALMS season with their # 62 F430 GTC. If Ferrari domination continues in FIA GT, LMS, and ALMS, Porsche should reconsider the rear engine layout.
no it was not. this race had just two cautions and the second was over three hours from the finish. plus, the American Le Mans Series has real production-based GT cars and exotic Le Mans Prototypes.
@FlyingLizard44 Wat I when did I diss NASCAR?! I wish more people would open their eyes and realize that NASCAR is more than turning left, and what real racing needs is a good drivers, guts, a race track, and guts!
"in the sole opinion of the Race Director and/or Stewards" ... Thank you. Couldn't have said it better than the GCR myself. So, by that definition, the RACE DIRECTOR or STEWARDS decide what is "avoidable contact" and what is a legal "racing incident" - i.e. NOBODY on this FORUM. THEY didn't call it a foul, so it is NOT. Done. End of discussion. That was my point all along, using the reasoning I gave for it. THEY have their own reasons, but I don't know if they're the same as mine or not.
Yeah, IMSA is playing favorites. You've got it. [/sarc] If it was avoidable, and not simply the case of two drivers competing for the same area of race track (which is like 99% of all incidents) or not of Jorg attempting to shut the door on Jaime... then where is the penalty from IMSA? I like Jorg, he's fast, but he didn't get "wronged." What do I know about racing? I've grown up around and involved in it my entire life (so not much according to you I guess).
@FlyingLizard44 I don't, but I was defending NASCAR because an ignorant dude commented about it so I commented back. Then 240SSONLY complained how bad touching is then I told him (I meant to tell him) racing isn't about driving as long as you can without scratching your car. I admit was a little ignorant on the Fergmister thing sorry if I offended any of his fans.
Well, of course the Porche car was in better shape, they had a new driver and new tires. The Ferrari triple stinted the driver and double stinted the tires. But a great race none of the less.
did the see the race at Laugna Seca last weekend. Watch what the porsche driver did at the finish line. I'm not saying his action was wrong. I would've done the same thing if I was in the prosche
Bah, that's called GT2 racing for the WIN at the 12Hrs of Sebring! You must not watch much Le Mans or ALMS racing if you think contact in fierce battles is rare. The 3+ body kits the teams keep in the pits with them say differently. I was there, on pit lane, for much of the race...contact is common. This move was aggressive, but allowable. The fact that IMSA did not overturn the result proves this point. GT racers have to be able to slug it out sometimes, and ex-F1 Salo certainly did that!
Take your Ferrari Derangement Syndrome elsewhere... not one driver on the grid would have done any differently than Salo. He gets paid to WIN, within the rules. That IMSA did not overturn the results shows that this move was completely within the realm of door-to-door racing. Mika forced Jorg to take a shallow entry line into 17, and came back underneath...classic move. He just needed Jorg's car to help him finish the turn! Very common in GT. Very nice driving by both, in any case!
I do know all the facts, and there is no factory teams, only ones with, as you've pointed out, factory 'Support'. So there can be no 'Shenanigans' as he put it. There is a big difference between Factory and factory 'Supported'. And yes GT2 is ONLY privateer. go check the rules
Wow, that hit at the end, such garbage. It's one of those situations where if the Porsche had crashed they'd have docked the Ferrari for an obvious shunt, but since he saved it it's easier to ignore.
@alexalvesjr If they were fat they wouldn't be able to get in the car, and ovals are exciting if you actual sit down and watch it! Before you say they're wreckless I want to just tell you it's mainly the guys up North in the sport and foreign drivers that wreck people, and 240SSONLY Le Mans is racing not driving your car as long as you can without getting a scratch, but I admit the Porsche dude Fergmister (sorry if I pronounced it wrong) is like Juan in NASCAR. (CRASHER!)
Jorg was right about one thing " He had the lead" but you lost.Ferrari lead the last hour right !!Like cypuga said "can't handle it drink milk.Ferrari was as quick as a hic..cup
about the previous comments, I've got the same opinion as hammet411 , nascar sucks a lot , BTW I hope it will be even more exciting in le mans in about one week, 16-17juin , off course between porsche and ferrari, but let the porsche win now !
I'll agree with that, the bumnping there was crap. That was done on purpose, dirty driving, there should have been a penalty. But what are you gonna do? That's a Ferrari being driven and F seems to carry weight in every class they run in, like a get out of jail free card.
I don`t know why any one would even mention Nascar. Nascar is a different league. A much lower league that uses 1950`s technology. There is nothing in a Nascar "car" that will trickle into future consumer vehicles. Porsche and Ferrari makes street legal cars today with the racing development of yesterday, Nascar is a joke.
usual ferrari attitude of racing.... but thats racing.... i would get out, in the middle of the after conference and i would throw my helmet at him... I DONT CARE ABOUT THE 10,000 DOLAR FINE..... as long as he tastes the side of my helmet as he did to my car... this little event of ferrari nearly killing other drivers is SO COMMON in their 50 years of Motorsports... so much for great fast cars ha? i hear stories of this ALL THE TIME... the duitch have pride in clean racing
I watched this whole race live and I still think about this finish every few months or so.
Here I am, back again.
I was there on the pit wall while it was happening, watching on the multi-panel TV feed behind the Ferrari team as they came around that last lap - we lost sight of them on the trackside cameras as they came through 17 due to the dust and haze at night, so this feed right here is what we were all watching. Needless to say when Jaime made that pass on Jorg the Ferrari team exploded, it was pretty epic "down-&-dirty" GT racing.
Here in 2019 feeling the same way.
feel you bro
Here in 2021 to relive this again, I watched it live like it was yesterday.
One of the best finishes ever at Sebring!
I was standing above the _Risi Competizione_ pits watching this unfold before my eyes. I could see their headlights as the two cars made their way around turn 17 coming onto the front straight. It was difficult to tell which car was which, or who was ahead, but I could definitely see them touch each other as they went wide around the final turn. I thought it was going to result in a huge accident just before the finish line! Absolutely incredible racing moment.
That was freaking amazing! That is the kind of racing that I love to watch!
Still one of the greatest finishes ever in motorsports
i was there up in a pit box for the first time in the 5 or so years i've been going. it was def pretty exciting finish. at the end you cna barely see that the porsche got into him right before turn 1 after the race was over.
I remember this course from Forza 3, Loved it
In my opinion, the best finish to a road race EVER. (Ricky Craven and Kurt Busch at Darlington in 2003 beats it out for the best ever... but only by the slimmest of margins. And Sebring was a better race--and this coming from someone who started out with NASCAR!)
No penalties were issued; the officials ruled it hard, clean, take-no-prisoners racing. THIS is why I love this sport.
I love both makes but DAMN !!! that was racing !!!
LolaJudd thank you for remind results to everybody. F430 GT is doing a gret job. Great Post
that´s real RACE!!! nice drive MELO!!
Thank you for being the voice of reason. I think there is more bashing going on in the comment section than in the video.
Ahh good point... just checked the video again, it's Melo who fought for the win. My bad - the rest of my statements still stand, though.
I was standing next to the winning Audi R-10 on pit lane snapping pictures at the time, so I didn't see the battle first-hand, and I didn't see who got out of the Ferrari when it pulled up behind me; there were many people in a very small space! Anyway, Melo, Salo, both are world class drivers (and Jorg in the Porsche too, for that matter).
ah yes this was fantastic
The best finish at Sebring
To me, this announcing team (Leigh Diffey, Dorsey Schroeder and Calvin Fish) reminds me of the Page/Posey/Unser team at the Indy 500, it's a similar style and passion for the sport.
What a great lap and an even better last pass. Both drivers were driving aggresively it was Jorge race to lose and he lost it, but not running a tighter line through the last turn. You people complaining of the bumping are either not familiar with racing or are HPDE weenies who aren't familiar with any aspect of racecraft. Ask any driver in the paddock if they would have done the same, and I guarantee you they will say "heck yes".
nascar wishes they could have a race this good
In the end Jaime Melo Cheated. You can see how his car unloads to impede the Porsche when they were next to each other. Bergmeister held the outside line.
It was deliberate. The race stewards decided it would be too controversial to penalize Melo. It was adorable how a simple illegal move was permitted to win that race.
Proves NASCAR and ALMS are pretty similar: you get close and exciting finishes!
I'm referring to the first contact, at 2:07 - Jorg clearly comes in. There's nothing wrong with that move, totally fine, but with Melo still fighting that led to contact. When they track out at 2:10 and hit door-to-door...remember, Melo was on double-stint tires, which didn't have much grip left, so I see Melo simply running out of track, with Jorg's Porsche in the way. Holding his line AFTER the contact, forcing Jorg to pull in behind, is the really aggressive part. Still legal, though.
EPIC FINISH!
I wish we could have seen the last 5 laps! Bergmister made up like 2 seconds in 3 laps!
and NASCAR doesnt have 12 hours to race. Which is pretty exciting watching a 12 hour race and see it that close at the end.
as a nascar fan, i agree 100%
Bergmeister got his revenge the following year. The Flying Lizard Porsches finished 1st & 2nd in their class in the 2008 race.
+VMIFerrari Then Risi won in 2009 and 2010...
+PttyBlue43 You're right! Dyson Racing & the Risi team were my personal favorites, but I like them all.
I miss speed channel
when it came down to it, no matter what, GREAT FINISH. I dont care wether either the Porshe and/or the Ferrari was racing dirty, great finish. Shouldn't of protested at all!
I believe you are referring to contacts at 2:07 and 2:10. At 2:07, the Ferrari's LF fender hits the Porsche's RR fender - that's wheel-to-wheel in a turn, and legal. Jorg tried to cut of Melo's line, and Melo stayed on it (Melo cornered from a better turn-in spot, but had worn-out tires). The contact at 2:10 is completely DOOR-TO-DOOR...fully legal, too. You say it was illegal, but IMSA has NOT overturned the results, declaring otherwise. It's simply a classic GT last-turn battle.
Got that Porsche Livery at 1/18 Scale.
Don't call anyone an ass before you know all the facts. This is not a privateer class only. There's heavy Porsche and Ferrari (and Panoz) factory support in GT2. For a while Porsche provided factory-supported drivers for teams adhering to Porsche's 'winning formula'.
"By your logic, Jorg should have tapped Melo a few times" ... No, THAT would be illegal if it was intentional. From what I see in this video, Jaime was faster out of the turn, and Jorg was there, still holding on to the outside of the turn, pushed wide by the contact at 2:07. When they hit at 2:10, JAIME is on the racing line, and JORG is wide. The track wall then narrows there on the left by just over a car width, so Jorg had no place to go without ducking back in. That's racing.
Dang 500 char limit. At 3:13, I see them touch, also, but there's nothing wrong with that contact, either. Melo was to the outside, and Jorg came out on him. Where Melo turned in immediately after that contact shows you the line through 17. I see Jorg trying to push Melo wide on the entry to 17, and Melo ducking back underneath. If Melo HAS to turn in or be in the marbles, he did the right thing...he MAKES room for himself, classic GT driving. That's why sportscars are my favs, even over F1.
The Porsche did get knocked around by the Ferrari and I'd be pissed if I were the Porsche driver, but I would have done the same thing if I were the Ferrari. Good race.
And F1 drivers do NOT scratch each other up... it's open wheel racing. In all the close finishes I've ever watched they will get close to knocking, but flinch off at the last second... same desired effect, but definitely not bumping.
thats what i want to see out of a rivalry.
so, who has the best TV coverage?
Anyway, that was a great finish. I think the Ferrari went overboard.
The bumper hit was fine, but he did about run the Porsche in the wall coming to the flag.
crazyfun! racing cars is my dream!
Damn, that was exciting...
ignore the typo's in the above post
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we do ..... darlinton 2003..
The Ferrari deserved to go into the wall ;). If Bergmeister would have driven like Melo, Melo would have been in the wall much earlier in the lap. But a lot of the times it's the driver that is the most brutal that will win. Sadly gentleman drivers don't always win.
Oh man every time I watch this it makes me angry as a Flying Lizard Fan. Berg had it until Melo pushed him! Unfair man but still an awesome race.
nascar is stagged in comparison with this amazing stuff. there were just two freaking caution periods in this endurance race and a finish like this took place.
this is racing
2009 Sebring 12 hours is almost here...I will camp out there all four days...I hope I am sober enough to remember the finish...Ohh well there is always Tivo...heheheh
Forcing him to the wall... what a clean finish. Fucking bullshit move. Porsche caught up and earned the win.
+Starky513 That Porsche then proceeded to spin a Corvette into a wall on the last lap of a race at Laguna Seca two years later...
Probably because he learned from this race that you can shove/wreck someone out of the way and nobody will do anything about it.
+Starky513 There's an expression in GT racing: 8 wheels turn better than 4.
The marshals there deemed it "fair racing contact" in that final corner, because if you look the Porsche comes in some on the Ferrari's line mid-corner (right when the camera angle changes as they pass under the bridge) probably to make Jaime in the Ferrai check up some and fall back... and that mistake by Jorg caused him to go wide when Jaime stayed in the slot and tapped the Porsche's rear right corner. Then Jaime just capitalized on that like any good GT racer should do and drove the Porsche to the outside where the tire wall comes in and the Porsche had to check up and duck under.
Jaime's tires were totally shot on that Ferrari by that time too, so it was very impressive that he held his position going through 17 against Jorg in the Porsche, and then kinda "turnabout is fair play" when he drove the Porsche outside the line afterwards.
Dear 1bangkok in Cina Porsche GT3 was excluded from the results (was lower then legal ride height)and Ferrari won. F430 won also in Silverstone and Bucarest. In FIA Championship 2006 F430 won 9 times on 10 races and won also American lemans series. GT3 997 is not able to match a Ferrari F430. This is a fact.
ever recall when robin liddell was driving a Panoz Esperante GTLM at Road Atlanta in spring, 2005 and got hit by a porsche? there has been much more dirty racing tactics in ALMS before. as for the Fiat/Ferrari comment, a porsche would be a rebadged vw in that sense. Jaime Melo and Mika Salo have the first four races of the ALMS season with their # 62 F430 GTC. If Ferrari domination continues in FIA GT, LMS, and ALMS, Porsche should reconsider the rear engine layout.
Get your 2008 Sebring tickets for the Porsche-Ferrari rematch. Ferrari will likely need to bring some dent fixer.
trading paint is part of racing and racing legend senna knew that well xP so no bitchin'
no it was not. this race had just two cautions and the second was over three hours from the finish. plus, the American Le Mans Series has real production-based GT cars and exotic Le Mans Prototypes.
@FlyingLizard44 Wat I when did I diss NASCAR?! I wish more people would open their eyes and realize that NASCAR is more than turning left, and what real racing needs is a good drivers, guts, a race track, and guts!
@BlackC5Z06 lol what can i say.... racing is racing.... and almost any thing goes... fair enough
Happy Motoring
@heyjunjin1 cant agree with you any more... wise words
Happy Motoring
ferrari's own.
"in the sole opinion of the Race Director and/or Stewards" ... Thank you. Couldn't have said it better than the GCR myself. So, by that definition, the RACE DIRECTOR or STEWARDS decide what is "avoidable contact" and what is a legal "racing incident" - i.e. NOBODY on this FORUM. THEY didn't call it a foul, so it is NOT. Done. End of discussion.
That was my point all along, using the reasoning I gave for it. THEY have their own reasons, but I don't know if they're the same as mine or not.
If he was a true gentleman driver he would have been two laps in front and coasting! :-)
Yeah, IMSA is playing favorites. You've got it.
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If it was avoidable, and not simply the case of two drivers competing for the same area of race track (which is like 99% of all incidents) or not of Jorg attempting to shut the door on Jaime... then where is the penalty from IMSA? I like Jorg, he's fast, but he didn't get "wronged."
What do I know about racing? I've grown up around and involved in it my entire life (so not much according to you I guess).
@FlyingLizard44 I don't, but I was defending NASCAR because an ignorant dude commented about it so I commented back. Then 240SSONLY complained how bad touching is then I told him (I meant to tell him) racing isn't about driving as long as you can without scratching your car. I admit was a little ignorant on the Fergmister thing sorry if I offended any of his fans.
Well, of course the Porche car was in better shape, they had a new driver and new tires. The Ferrari triple stinted the driver and double stinted the tires. But a great race none of the less.
shutup about nascar dang.i love american le mans and nascar there both great series.don't forget that nascar runs at infineon and watkins glen
@spazracing94 Translates to 'Go Ferrari'. He's not referring to the game.
@allfantasticimages I wasn't responding to that post believe it or not
did the see the race at Laugna Seca last weekend. Watch what the porsche driver did at the finish line. I'm not saying his action was wrong. I would've done the same thing if I was in the prosche
Bah, that's called GT2 racing for the WIN at the 12Hrs of Sebring! You must not watch much Le Mans or ALMS racing if you think contact in fierce battles is rare. The 3+ body kits the teams keep in the pits with them say differently. I was there, on pit lane, for much of the race...contact is common. This move was aggressive, but allowable. The fact that IMSA did not overturn the result proves this point. GT racers have to be able to slug it out sometimes, and ex-F1 Salo certainly did that!
NASCAR can suck it; this is real racing!
i believe both are in forza
fuck man this is epic
Take your Ferrari Derangement Syndrome elsewhere... not one driver on the grid would have done any differently than Salo. He gets paid to WIN, within the rules. That IMSA did not overturn the results shows that this move was completely within the realm of door-to-door racing. Mika forced Jorg to take a shallow entry line into 17, and came back underneath...classic move. He just needed Jorg's car to help him finish the turn! Very common in GT. Very nice driving by both, in any case!
Okay, my comment regarding the HPDE guys is uneccessary... maybe should have said Porsche drivers (as they seem to love the 13/13 rule).
I do know all the facts, and there is no factory teams, only ones with, as you've pointed out, factory 'Support'.
So there can be no 'Shenanigans' as he put it. There is a big difference between Factory and factory 'Supported'. And yes GT2 is ONLY privateer. go check the rules
i do it's called NASCAR......
ever heard of roadcourse
5 People are Nascar Fanboys! xD
@240SSONLY Seriously? Usual Ferrari attitude? Then I guess Laguna '09 was typical Porsche attitude, huh?
It's racing, dude.
but the 2007 Mobil 1 Twelve Hours of Sebring had a much better finish in the GT2 class.
Melo ... -____-'
Wow, that hit at the end, such garbage. It's one of those situations where if the Porsche had crashed they'd have docked the Ferrari for an obvious shunt, but since he saved it it's easier to ignore.
i did not say this race was bad either...
no they wouldnt. he drove like a 6 year old on playstation. thats not fair. the porsche driver was really the best one of them
everyone would've done the same if they are the Ferrari driver.
@alexalvesjr If they were fat they wouldn't be able to get in the car, and ovals are exciting if you actual sit down and watch it! Before you say they're wreckless I want to just tell you it's mainly the guys up North in the sport and foreign drivers that wreck people, and 240SSONLY Le Mans is racing not driving your car as long as you can without getting a scratch, but I admit the Porsche dude Fergmister (sorry if I pronounced it wrong) is like Juan in NASCAR. (CRASHER!)
Great driving, b ut man, that was some dirty driving by the Ferrari...
Jorg was right about one thing " He had the lead" but you lost.Ferrari lead the last hour right !!Like cypuga said "can't handle it drink milk.Ferrari was as quick as a hic..cup
But that doesn't mean you can just rubbing through the race, it is very unsportsmanlike...
about the previous comments, I've got the same opinion as hammet411 , nascar sucks a lot , BTW I hope it will be even more exciting in le mans in about one week, 16-17juin , off course between porsche and ferrari, but let the porsche win now !
cant handle it? drink milk
I'll agree with that, the bumnping there was crap. That was done on purpose, dirty driving, there should have been a penalty. But what are you gonna do? That's a Ferrari being driven and F seems to carry weight in every class they run in, like a get out of jail free card.
ferrari push porsche in the wall, he's a fucking dangerous driver!!! the should must win the race!
rubbin is racin. This wasn't a sissy F1 race.
^^ :)
well, you would protest if you are the porshe driver right? You don't lose nothing by protesting.
LOL, reckless driving? Yeah, it's not like the Porsche have done anything worse than this recently...
This is racing guys, not like the fat drivers from NASCAR on ovals hehehehehe Go MELO!!!!!!!
LOL! I love milk, but I can still handle it. =-P
I don`t know why any one would even mention Nascar. Nascar is a different league. A much lower league that uses 1950`s technology. There is nothing in a Nascar "car" that will trickle into future consumer vehicles. Porsche and Ferrari makes street legal cars today with the racing development of yesterday, Nascar is a joke.
usual ferrari attitude of racing....
but thats racing.... i would get out, in the middle of the after conference and i would throw my helmet at him... I DONT CARE ABOUT THE 10,000 DOLAR FINE..... as long as he tastes the side of my helmet as he did to my car...
this little event of ferrari nearly killing other drivers is SO COMMON in their 50 years of Motorsports... so much for great fast cars ha? i hear stories of this ALL THE TIME... the duitch have pride in clean racing
Wanna try that again? In English this time.