Onboard lap with the Martini Racing Porsche 936 driven by Jurgen Barth at Le Mans 1977. www.racing-underground.com "Racing torrents all over the place" ....
Thank you so much for posting this video. Amazing, awesome, fantastic, terrific!!! I was just a kid back in '77, but was already a fan of Le Mans, playing with Le Mans toy cars, etc. I've seen videos, but this is breathtaking, considering the age. Did you notice that the cars being lapped usually keep to their racing line, and I can't see the driver of the 936 complaining...unlike today's spoint F1 drivers!
So it was.This noise recalls me of my 911/S and brings me back of years...of no speed limits times! 936 had basically a stock aircooled turbo 911 engine extr.uptuned and the"family sound "was clearly still there!
back in the days when racing cars were real racing cars, no computers onboard, just man and machine, an era lost forever that our kids will never experience, that speed scares me,he is an amazing driver,no doubt.
Vive le Mans ! The old circuit was ridicoulously fast. I have a friend that told me that the hardest thing with those long straits is not to fall asleep !
Thanks for putting this up - lovely wiggle on the exit of Arnage. The closing speed to the 911s looks scary - especially the two overtaking eachother on the approach to Indianapolis. I have took my midget round the Circuit on a parade lap and it seemed really narrow in places. Now the cars are even wider there can't be much room for three abreast if needed.
It's the german driver Jurgen Barth as mentioned in the video description commenting on his own lap. The last sentence spoken by a commentator is also in german. Greetings from Germany ;)
My favorite version of the Circuit de la Sarthe in terms of layout. Before the Dunlop curve, Tertre Rouge and Mulsanne corner were altered and chicanes installed on the exit of Dunlop curve and on Mulsanne straight, but after the Porsche curves were added. In terms of safety though, let's just say it was lacking...
A lower quality version of this is on Porsche's official UA-cam channel. Why they don't have anything of the even more successful 917, 962, or even the 956 is beyond me.
@bere5de The 917 LH (langheck) was clocked doing 390km/h on LeMans in 1971. That one had a 650hp 4,9 litre flat 12 The Can-Am 917-30 had a turbo-charged engine and 1100hp in racetrim in 1973. For qualifying it reportedly had 1500hp. Unofficial reports claim that the 917-30 reached 409km/h in Le Castellet (Paul Ricard) in 1975.
Think you might find the 2.1 litre 936 here was based on the even older 908 chassis. These vehicles last one at Le Mans 1981 with a 2.65 litre (Updated from a shelved Indianapolis Project) engine.
@samiurrahmanshah In F1, I'm pretty sure they have launch control, plus they have that overtaking feature where they push a button on the steering wheel that gives the engine a bit more power and lowers the rear wing to creat less downforce. (i may be wrong about the launch control)
936 in long term engine trim had a 500/550 bhp output - no more - in practise trim they could obv.uptune the turbo engine but these were long term races= equally they had to choose an average aerod. downforce/speed ratio so to have performance on the straight and a still good cornering without excessively stressing the drivers in a 24 hours race= Still impressing 30 years later!
@terminator363GAMES The two chicanes at Hunaudieres were not the only changes, Maison Blanche and Porsche curves, Ford Chicane, and the section from Dunlop to the esses have changed too since 1967 and before ´32 the north of the track had a totally different layout.
The 936 had a top speed of 217 MPH. And the way the lap was filmed (large POV crammed into a small one) which makes the viewsomewhat faster, only adds to the effect that it's at top speed on the Mulsanne. The 917 raced at the beginning of the '70s, so it can't be a 917.
What I found almost frightening was the closing speeds with the 911s down the Mulsanne. They might have been doing 160mph+ and he went past them liking they were doing half that
How fast did they go on the Mulsane straight then? I know the Group C cars in the 80s were doing over 250 mph!!! But I love this shot of how long the Mulsane was without the chicanes!
Porsche 917 is the Fastet Porsche ever build. 1100 bhp in race 1500 in qaulifing... Top speed in Musolmune was 407kph. in 1971, 12 seconds to 320 kph (200 mph)
@xrayracer1 I can't be too sure about launch control, the way rules are evolving, it's hard to follow. I do remember that they had a type of anti-stall control, which disengaged the clutch whenever the ECU sensed the engine was about to stall. As for these LMPs, I think the only electronic aids are the traction / launch control, oh and pit lane speed limiters. They all work by modulating engine power.
When you’re passing RSR’s like they’re standing still you know you’re moving quickly.
Outstanding thanks
It's so cute the way the Porsches stick to the "slow lane". Gotta love the snap oversteer and dabs of opposite lock. Nice rhythm.
My all-time favorite onboard...old LeMans.
Thank you so much for posting this video. Amazing, awesome, fantastic, terrific!!!
I was just a kid back in '77, but was already a fan of Le Mans, playing with Le Mans toy cars, etc. I've seen videos, but this is breathtaking, considering the age.
Did you notice that the cars being lapped usually keep to their racing line, and I can't see the driver of the 936 complaining...unlike today's spoint F1 drivers!
Wow,thats fast,listen to that sound!I collect all these models, the history and reminder of the sport.
So it was.This noise recalls me of my 911/S and brings me back of years...of no speed limits times!
936 had basically a stock aircooled turbo 911 engine extr.uptuned and the"family sound "was clearly still there!
some serious skills involved in this
back in the days when racing cars were real racing cars, no computers onboard, just man and machine, an era lost forever that our kids will never experience, that speed scares me,he is an amazing driver,no doubt.
Classic stuff - I wanted to go to Le Mans since I was a kid in the 70s, finally made it to Le Mans in 2005
God i love these porsche racing engines from the old days
That's awesome!! I'd like to see Porsches again kicking some ass at LeMans!!
Passing Carreras like they were parked. Absolute animal.
One of the absolute best videos on you tube....
I enjoy this hot lap a little too much!What a sweet engine sound. Martini and Rossi...yeah.
This car now owned by Dave Morse in CA. It won overall in 1977 driven by Jackie Ixxs and Mass I believe. 1 of 4 cars built.
what a beautiful sound
Vive le Mans !
The old circuit was ridicoulously fast. I have a friend that told me that the hardest thing with those long straits is not to fall asleep !
Mega. Brilliant, Fantastic. Three words that suit the video.
It's almost unbelievable how brave drivers were in the days before carbon safety cells etc
Barley a seat belt on tube frame
One minute and ten seconds at full throttle, God bless auto racing.
YWNA
USA
Incredible video!! Thx for sharing.
What an amazing track the good old Le Mans!
Nice, love the 936 - great car...
Thanks for putting this up - lovely wiggle on the exit of Arnage. The closing speed to the 911s looks scary - especially the two overtaking eachother on the approach to Indianapolis. I have took my midget round the Circuit on a parade lap and it seemed really narrow in places. Now the cars are even wider there can't be much room for three abreast if needed.
It's the german driver Jurgen Barth as mentioned in the video description commenting on his own lap. The last sentence spoken by a commentator is also in german.
Greetings from Germany ;)
My favorite version of the Circuit de la Sarthe in terms of layout. Before the Dunlop curve, Tertre Rouge and Mulsanne corner were altered and chicanes installed on the exit of Dunlop curve and on Mulsanne straight, but after the Porsche curves were added. In terms of safety though, let's just say it was lacking...
2:42 = amazing control. And balls.
Jürgen Barth!... A living legend!
absolute classic
Listen to that engine, music to my ears!
And they did this at night to. Absolutely amazing!
What a ride.WOOOOHOOOOO.
The speed going down the Mulsanne is just epic.
Fun fact: modern cars are just as fast and they have to take the extra chicanes
All cars for the people !
I love the sound of this Porsche 936 and to see the differences in the 1977 track and now.Just to tell u im a ferrari guy
Old Hunaudières = 6 km or 3,7 miles...
Best Track of the world with the Nordschleife, but Le Mans' legend is still alive.
The great Jurgen Barth, Porsche legend tested every car from the 917 on-wards as well
jürgen barth won the race in 1977 with the porsche936 and when you see the clip you understand why !!! great driver
Beautiful.
verry good video!! i like that car!
@alphenchick Absolutely...and to keep 911s/930s that are going all out moving aside to let you go by at almost twice their speed, is pretty amazing.
Very awesome!
the monster of all cockpit open cars of porsche.
recorded on film man pure retro
very impressive how fast he overtakes the "normal" Porsches which actually are very fast too
super Video !
Awesome dudes...Thanks. .
wow very good quality
wow imagine the G force going into a corner with this car... freaking bad ass car from hell.. thumbs up.
A lower quality version of this is on Porsche's official UA-cam channel. Why they don't have anything of the even more successful 917, 962, or even the 956 is beyond me.
to me these were the real race cars! no traction control, no abs, no stability control, no bullshit!!!
@bere5de
The 917 LH (langheck) was clocked doing 390km/h on LeMans in 1971. That one had a 650hp 4,9 litre flat 12
The Can-Am 917-30 had a turbo-charged engine and 1100hp in racetrim in 1973. For qualifying it reportedly had 1500hp. Unofficial reports claim that the 917-30 reached 409km/h in Le Castellet (Paul Ricard) in 1975.
sehr geiles video!
it looks like the video in the museum by main entrance of the track
Think you might find the 2.1 litre 936 here was based on the even older 908 chassis.
These vehicles last one at Le Mans 1981 with a 2.65 litre (Updated from a shelved Indianapolis Project) engine.
need for the speeeeeed...dammn..incredible..
Martini!
thats why i watch GT500! JGTC fr life!
nice video
like it was yesterday, awesome
Amazing. Mulsanne straight without chicane !
awesome```!
And it looks like a perfect day to take the porsche out for a spin too!
How do you dislike this video ?
acelerate video... no it's original
amazing how fast these trees fly by.
It certainly says something that every car on course was a Porsche!
Epic.
Great! Classic race car.
Super neat !!...Is this the best video on UA-cam ??
guys... this keeps going for 24 hours......... i got respect for the drivers
The Mulsanne straight without chicanes they reached speeds over 400 km/h (250 mph). The chicanes were built in 1990.
at 0:48 he's breaking the sound barrier? hehehehehehe
I miss the old Le Mans circuit without the chincanes on the big straight...
GREAT VIDEO!
@samiurrahmanshah In F1, I'm pretty sure they have launch control, plus they have that overtaking feature where they push a button on the steering wheel that gives the engine a bit more power and lowers the rear wing to creat less downforce. (i may be wrong about the launch control)
f1 in those days wasn't really boring. believe me !!!
@GTXMAN
Yes, I am.
The Porsche 936 only had up to 620hp, but there were cars with over 1000hp (Porsche 917 for example) and top speeds up to 400 km/h
936 in long term engine trim had a 500/550 bhp output - no more -
in practise trim they could obv.uptune the turbo engine but these were long term races=
equally they had to choose an average aerod. downforce/speed ratio so to have performance on the straight and a still good cornering without excessively stressing the drivers in a 24 hours race=
Still impressing 30 years later!
Madness....
Fantastic Hunaudiers.......
Mulsanne is awesome... "slower traffic keep right"!!
owning!
WOW!
@terminator363GAMES
The two chicanes at Hunaudieres were not the only changes, Maison Blanche and Porsche curves, Ford Chicane, and the section from Dunlop to the esses have changed too since 1967 and before ´32 the north of the track had a totally different layout.
@ :50, thats a nice straight line to do a little big of race! ;)
@JUMPMAN23MCM He has passed also 934 RSR (~480 hp) and 935 turbo (~560-590hp) Porsches, while the lightweight 936 has "only" 540hp.
Agreed. They need to enter the LM-P1 class (or whatever it'll be called next)
The LMP1 cars would be doing around 220-230. Group C cars were hitting nearly 250 in the late 1980s.
THE BEST!!!!
@poralentierno He was passing Porsche 911 Carrera RSRs. Basically 800-900 HP 936 vs. 300-400 HP 911 RSRs.
@BaronBoy100 He actually mentions this himself in the video: "Oh, das war etwas weit..."="Oh, I am running a little wide..." at 2:44.
It looks real easy from here but it sure isn't like a Sunday drive in the park!
reliquia esse
@adyolive Bring it back.No chicane at mulsanne,FANTASTIC.
The 936 had a top speed of 217 MPH. And the way the lap was filmed (large POV crammed into a small one) which makes the viewsomewhat faster, only adds to the effect that it's at top speed on the Mulsanne.
The 917 raced at the beginning of the '70s, so it can't be a 917.
What I found almost frightening was the closing speeds with the 911s down the Mulsanne. They might have been doing 160mph+ and he went past them liking they were doing half that
How fast did they go on the Mulsane straight then? I know the Group C cars in the 80s were doing over 250 mph!!! But I love this shot of how long the Mulsane was without the chicanes!
Porsche 917 is the Fastet Porsche ever build. 1100 bhp in race 1500 in qaulifing... Top speed in Musolmune was 407kph. in 1971, 12 seconds to 320 kph (200 mph)
Jojo, ¡cómo adelanta a los otros Porsche!
The Jurgen Barth/Jackie Ickx car, and winner
@xrayracer1 I can't be too sure about launch control, the way rules are evolving, it's hard to follow. I do remember that they had a type of anti-stall control, which disengaged the clutch whenever the ECU sensed the engine was about to stall. As for these LMPs, I think the only electronic aids are the traction / launch control, oh and pit lane speed limiters. They all work by modulating engine power.
Yeah it was great :P. Imagine how it would be today without the chicanes :)
He is Johann Mass (if I spell it right). I still have the 8mm film(!)