Can we play with you? Like do you guys actually play and like this game? I understand if not, you gotta get your sponsorships where you can, but it seemed worth asking.
This game is not worth it. It's a repetitive grind, even if you can spend. The missions also repeat (go here, kill this ship that looks nothing like what we say it is even though we have the model) go over here, kill X hostiles, go home. Oh, and use your federation ship and crew to *kill everything everywhere, all the time.*
Let Picard become a Borg - forever. Let Data regenerate into another actor. Let Spock remain dead after WoK and recon all the movies - bad any way. Let Season 4 of Enterprise be so. Let
A Season long year of hell would have been epic but they are probably right that some people would not take it well when the reset button was hit and the entire season never happened. That Chakotay episode with him hunting voyagers across the multiverse also sounds really interesting.
If only Janawey somehow could remember what happened in that year of hell (I dunno, Q doing her a "favour"), it would be awesome. And give more depth to her character. Because she would know what's really at stake. And what she's capable of. Would make her decision in the End Game seem more logical as well.
I'm glad Year of Hell was just a good two-parter. Pushing the reset button on an entire season would have been hard to stomach. That said, I really wish Voyager had allowed for consequences from previous episodes to carry over, such as damage to the ship, etc. It was always in too good of shape given their situation.
I wanted the Year of Hell to NOT be reset. AND as you say, show the accumulation of damage, the issues they have to face from episode to episode. The ship should have been totally unrecognizable by the time they encountered Starfleet or the Federation, and the crew very likely acting far outside the scope of regulations of either.
I really wish Voyager had cared about continuity more. They should have had to deal with material and supply shortages on a regular basis. Battle damage should have stayed visible - even if only as burn marks around repaired parts of the ship. The Maquis members should have kept their individuality, rather than becoming defacto Star Fleet officers.
I really dig the concept of the number one entry here---"The Beginning." They should really consider retooling it as a Paramount Plus limited series that'd serve as the Enterprise reunion we all wanna see. It could work. Not sure how they'd work in Trips character (because we all know they would want to do that), but it wouldn't be impossible to pull off. I still really hope we do get to see the Enterprise cast members get their due in one way or another. I didn't watch Enterprise when it was on (between DS9 and Voyager, I was really burned out on Trek...like many other viewers most likely), but after revisiting the entire series years later, I realized just how good it actually is. I'd love to see them get one more day in the sun.
There's a novel where Trip's death was a fakeout and he become a S31 agent. I thought it would've been cool to do a short ten episode limited series where Archer and the crew discover he was still alive and have to foil some plot. Heck, maybe they influence S31 into becoming the more open and prominent organization we see in Discovery?
In a alternate timeline we got a Star Trek series building up to the Earth - Romulan War. Written, shown and similar to the style of DS9, with exploring, great story and space battles). That would have been awesome.
The best thing is, though, that this one can still be done. It's a time-period where no characters we know were around - with the exception of perhaps an aging Archer (Scott Bacula is still around thankfully!) so it would be a perfect candidate for a new series completely separate and distinct from all the others full of brand-new characters.
@@joshuaboniface hell yeah, that would be perfect, especially a cameo from Scott and some others. Let's hope CBS picks up on that idea sticks to the source material from the prime and some ideas from fans 🖖
@@AndersonNeo12 I thing they are planning on more limited run shows like Picard. A Enterprise one focusing on the Romulan war could be great. I really would like to see them adapt the novels narrative. Which could tie in great with their plans to do more with section 31. The only real story I can come up with for the Voyager is that Neelix is kidnapped by someone, the Think Tank, Voth, the Vaadwaur, someone new, and they have to take Voyager- B, Federation first slipstream capable vessel to go hunting for him. It turn out to be some sort of trap and they wanted Voyager in the quadrant. Just because I want to see them again, may have it that species 8472 invasion of Borg space, it turn out that their extermination plans were already moving on from the Borg and that they were attacking other species, have it be that someone took Neelix to lure Voyager back to the Quadrant so they can get hold of their weapon an exterminate species 8472 for destroying their home planet. Something along those lines.
Kirk and Archer accidentally creating the mirror universe is an interesting concept. Though I prefer the origins of the mirror universe as laid out in an epilogue at the end of William Shatner's mirror universe novels (the Shatnerverse, gotta love it): a short scene between Zefram Cochrane and Lily Sloane, the day after the Vulcans landed. Dr. Crusher had given everyone a drug to erase their memories of the past few days, so as to not pollute the timeline; the drug didn't work on Cochrane, and he remembered everything: the crew of the Enterprise, the Borg, all of it. He was trying to decide whether or not to tell the Vulcans about the Borg and the threat they posed, and finally opted to let a coin flip decide whether he told them or not; heads, he tells the Vulcans about the Borg, tails, he doesn't. The scene ends with the coin spinning in the air; the implication being that is the point where the mirror universe diverges from the universe we know. On one path, he tells the Vulcans about the Borg and the two parties, Earth and Vulcan, focus on building their military power so the Borg will not be a threat to them; building an Empire rather than a Federation. That is the timeline that becomes the Mirror Universe. On the other path, he doesn't tell the Vulcans about the Borg, keeping his knowledge of the future to himself; that is our universe, the universe of the Federation. I LOVE that depiction. The creation of an entire universe, the fates of every single living being in it, coming down to one random act of chance by one man. Fantastic.
My thoughts on the origin of the Mirror Universe- in the opening of “In A Mirror, Darkly”, Zefram Cochrane greets the Vulcans by blasting them instead of shaking hands. The reason he shook hands is due to the influence of the time-traveling Enterprise crew, giving Cochrane a vision of what the future will- or could- be. Had they not interfered, Cochrane’s first instinct would have been to take over the Vulcan ship, and thus the Mirror Universe is born. In other words, the Mirror Universe- our universe- is the prime universe!
@@stephenkehl7158 To me that doesn't really work, the Mirror Universe culture of violence is much longer. Personally I always thought they should have started in 20th century with the creation of the augments and they won the war.
*the full season of dealing with the time ship only to have it resolved at the end of the last episode would have been the equivalent of the Dallas who shot J.R episode...in short...jumping the space shark* *and while i thought the Xendi arc of Enterprise was very good it did get a bit tedious during a few episodes although i still enjoyed how they were woven together across the overall narrative and context of the events taking place*
Season 6 was far removed from the "Who shot JR" plot line 4 seasons earlier. Season 6 made the unforgivable sin of replacing a deceased regular character, after his death was made a part of the plot. Bringing back Jock Ewing was a mistake that needed a serious fix. Plus getting Patrick Duffy back on the show was also a bonus since his character died in that "dream" season.
@Bill Keith Channel Remember after bringing Patrick Duffy back as Bobby and writing off all of Season 6 as Pam’s dream the Dallas writers doubled down on bringing back Jock Ewing with the Wes Parmalee storyline of Season 7
@@RobertJohnson-hq6jq Hmm. That's not what I remember. I recall that they went back to Jock being dead and not found in South America. If that is not how it is now then I blame Mandella and not my memory. ;P
With Wesley and Korae working together, there is room for an eventual Assignment: Earth series. We could even see an older Gary Seven and Roberts Lincoln in it.
I love Q, but they were 100% correct to not have him be a full time crew member, if the thumbnails is indeed accurate, an episode or 2 a season where they can do anything? Great. Every episode? Show destroying.
I did wonder if Ellie was going to ask if "Once more, with feeling" had been translated back into its native Klingon, not turned into a stage show - that threw me a little.
Sean, you are incredible. I have a learning disability. I graduated from high school 11 years ago, plus i can read and write at a 10th grade level. Being part of the Star Trek fanbase helps me forget about the global issues and be with the smartest people. Star Trek is my drug. 😜 no pun intended.
The aborted Tantalus Device/Mirror Universe episode with Jim Kirk; the planned Borg arc and the musical episodes of TNG/DS9/Enterprise would’ve been great to have seen. For DS9 they could’ve made Badda Bing, Badda Bang as the episode and made it a musical Ocean’s 11 caper homage. The Q arc might’ve worked but with Q covertly keeping tabs on Picard and crew throughout season 2; intervening only when Jean-Luc and the gang learned they were WAY over their heads in a situation, or realize that they do need higher intervention to resolve a scenario. Even Captain James T. Kirk recognized and acknowledged the existence of God; as he told Apollo in Who Mourns for Adonais: “We find one God sufficient.” Unlike Picard he was never an athiest.
Enterprise continues to be a show with such lost potential over a decade after it finished 😅 that first season would have been perfect for modern 10 episode series
Beta canon (the novels) did the Earth-Romulan War, and did introduce the ancestors of a certain Captain as well, sadly poor Columbia Class Enterprise SS-01 (it was upgraded with the new secondary hull) was severely damaged and replaced as the flagship by the Endeavor. (Admiral Archer felt it was too soon to have a new Enterprise). Also introduced various retcons, yes transporters were a thing, but they were not fully safe, too much usage caused brain damage (akin to really bad sea sickness if you were outside of a planetary gravity well) and of course the big spoiler: Trip was NOT dead, he was undercover working for Section 31 to try to stop the Romulans from building faster propulsion than Earth had at that point, he later tried to take down Section 31, which did lead to several key people in the organization being scapegoated and killed, but he could not touch the core leadership who went on to rebuild in secret.
Voyager ending up in the alternate universe after the year of hell would have been compelling. The Romulan ending up on voyager would have been somewhat interesting, being stuck on a star fleet vessel.
YEAR of hell? I always thought Voyager should have been a LOT more brutal in general, and not just one year. They should have been losing main cast members at random (through both death and them just giving up and deciding to settle down on a random planet.) There also should have been new crew members added as Voyager picked up those who were in need or desolate. (Maybe even start with more Ocampa than just Kes.) There should have been more struggle and trouble from some of the Maquis crew. Maybe even some of the initial Voyager crew starting to sympathize with them. (And some just abandoned when they became too much trouble.) The ship's limited resources should have been more obvious. (As in the crew visibly struggling not just "replicator limitations") Finally, it would have made a great season finale at some point to end with the entire ship destroyed and the (then remaining) crew stranded on a barren, uninhabited world. They'd find a way out of it and back to their journey in the next episode three months later, of course, but that could have rivaled "Best of Both Worlds" for Star Trek cliffhangers.
I think the "Year of Hell" for Voyager basically is what Season 3 of Enterprise became, with the ship being battered and beaten over time, but instead of a big "Everything's all peachy again" reset like Voyager, the ship ended up in that different timeline fighting space-nazis (ugh!!!) to restore the future, and all that, cos, time travel, yay...
How they ended it was really terrible. Also wish there was more ships involve in the battle to save earth. The third season shouldn't have ended on a cliff hanger.
Whenever ST is broken down like this Amazing Stories always comes to mind. Anyone else old enough to remember the show? I've ALWAYS wanted a Star Trek TV show with an Amazing Stories outline. IE No full time cast. Every week is a different crew, ship, race and ear with a few 2 part episodes here and there. Episodes could mention crews and ships from all the shows. They could even take part in events with those shows but they can NEVER include or interact with them. How many we will check on you in a few years missions were never realized. This show could do that. Writers would have all of Star Trek to work into their episodes. That is a TON of good well received content to start a solid plot. Never could get into Discovery. Picard is ah well I watched it. Lower Decks please go away. At last. Strange New Worlds nailed it!
Hold on there at 0:57 Ellie popping out of James T Kirk's grave? T? Whatever happened to R? Whatever, it's hilarious, I died from laughing so hard at that image, it's priceless. Hey, whatever happened to Brie?
I thought I better correct it 😂 glad you spotted it. Brie is back very soon, some behind the scenes changes but I've personally submitted a video of her for upload 👍
Definitely should see the musical ep. Even if it's just the deck of Discovery's Star Fleet/Federation HQ and Tilly doing/learning the key canon points (like how Arya joined the street troupe in Braavos in ASOIAF from GRRM and depicted in GoT and played out scenes of history and such). If they reintroduce a Ferengi plotline anywhere the gene therapy for strength would be excellent to see evolve into a rivalry amongst them vs Klingons maybe a underground "boxing" racket
they could go meta and have Ferengi hawking a herbalife style promise with the marketed dream that of "The Whey" and many signs indicate that this indeed is the greatest whey 😅 complete with latinum armor suits and upgrades
They keep casting musical theatre talent in the shows, and then not giving them a musical! It's nuts! Especially as it would be so easy to justify in-universe!
You missed Harve Bennett's Star Trek III: Return to Genesis. Romulans were the major baddies and the story had more of a political intrigue element to it. Love what became Search For Spock, but this other version would have been fascinating.
That was being set up in TNG with the Conspiracy story, where those parasite things were taking over Admirals and captains. Right before Riker and Picard kill the mother being, it sends a message out. That was supposed to be the message that brought the Borg into contact with the Federation. You can see that story line was entirely dropped.
Q joining the Enterprise crew could have been really fun. Q is an ancient being with godlike powers, he knows all sorts of secrets about the universe. There'd be scientists, engineers, doctors, historians, etc. all over the Federation, all of the galaxy, going to the Enterprise to ask Q questions about everything. I can see Q liking all the attention at first but quickly getting annoyed by all the questions people ask him. How do you cure Bendii Syndrome, are these equations for transwarp drive correct, what happened to the Iconians, how do you stabilize the Genesis Effect, what created the galactic barrier. Eventually Q would be so annoyed, he'd willing leave the Enterprise.
I always play some head canon in my head where Picard accepts Q's request to join the crew. Sure Q is "next of kin to chaos" but in my head canon I imagine Picard taking that risk and seeing so many amazing things in the universe with Q protecting them.
Good evening Ellie, I am SADDEN that I did not get to see your lovely smile as you spoke, I am think that most of the ideas are not good. But I would have like the Enterprise series to bridge the gap into the Romulan war Then a good three part episode to finish the series with the most of the crew surviving But some lost.
Omg Klingon Voyager!!!! Hellz yeah!!!! Why was this not made??? ...in its five year mission to conquer new worlds, to seek out new life and subjugate their civilization. To boldly expand the empire to worlds no Klingon have gone before! Sigh, a man can dream...
9:40 Err... I mean WASN'T SHE? "Hey let's destroy our only means of getting home the most quickest way (like we were just transported here, by the Caretaker)." I get the point that Janeway wouldn't want the Kazons to get their hands on the Array and cause harm to the Ocampas. BUT don't tell me that by the 2370s engineers forgot how to make A TIMER! Wouldn't it have been easier to rig the torpedoes with a timer? Transport the explosives to the Array, set the timer for like 5 minutes and start the countdown, activate the send-us-home-device, and be back in the Alpha Quadrant like 3 days after they disappeared.
@@tetravega567 They should have put Harry behind the trigger then. And after they got home, they would have given an honorary posthumous promotion to the Ensign of Eternity. (Two birds with one stone.) 😊
No, she wasn't. I don't know why even the writers in later seasons seemed to be under the impression that Janeway was responsible. It's explicitly said in the pilot episode that the Array wasn't working and the repair would take longer than the Kazon reinforcements to arrive. Janeway had no chance to use the device to get back home. It was basically out of her hands at this point.
That Worf vs big Ferengi plot sounded great! Do y'all have any news on that new Trek game people actually wanna play? The one where they had that old Spock showcase a few months ago.
A season long Year of Hell was also nixed because of costs. They would have been unable to use any stock footage of USS Voyager because of the increasing damage on the hull, necessitating new flyby footage for each and every episode.
The buffy episode has been adapted into a stage play by many fans actually. I saw a production of it in 2004's buffy convention in Oakland. They actually did a great job tbh.
He did manage to make "All Along the Watchtower" a prominent ongoing plot point, and in the finale it was the music of Starbuck's father that gave her the coordinates on the final jump. So while he didn't get his musical episode he did work musical themes in, and quite well in my opinion. But yes, a duet between Six and Baltar would have been epic too.
One of the main problems with the Star Trek multiple series beginning with Star Trek TOS and up to Star Trek Enterprise, is that similar plot lines kept showing up in individual episodes from one series to the others. It looks like the show runners kept resurrecting the same plot lines over and over because they were running out of ideas for plot lines. Plot lines reoccurring were the main ship about to blow up, individual characters being kidnapped, failure of the ship's transporter systems, characters being sent to past or future times, etc. It seems to also be occurring to the current versions of Star Trek, like Star Trek Picard and Discovery.
When showing that other video, about TOS, it gets shown so briefly that one has to click on pause. Her name also covers some of its name. Seems like it is '10 Star Trek: The original series episodes that were almost made". (Another one anyway is "10 Star Trek episodes that never got made".)
#10. Similar idea. Q Continuum members that have committed crimes but are redeemable and must spend time in Starfleet without there powers. #9. How about a story arc of the Dark past between the Borg and the Bi-Nar? #8. Worf and Quark are equal strength. And Quark would not be scared to fight him either. I would however, be more interested in Quarks' Klingon children. On The Next Generation Episode, "The Last Outpost. During a one on one fight: A Ferengi fought with Data, one fought with Worf and a third one put a beat down on Riker. #7. A Musical. Not enough of a twist. These ideas have been used before. The computer is tampered with by Data, he has a program damaged and was experimenting with musicals at the time. There is a virus with the crew and the ship is malfunctioning. To get the vaccine for the crew they have to fix the ship first but they have to go through the Holodeck to do so and guess how it has been reprogrammed. Yes, they have to preform a musical. ?Shakespearian? ?With past crewmen? #6. I agree, that would have been too much. However, there could be another episode that The Department of Temporal Investigations would have to attend to this to change the event that led to it. #5. Why not? It would have to rewritten however. #4. I like this one too. Just rewrite it for a different crew, like #5. #3. An Earth based Sector 31? #2. The Nth Degree? Only it led to another Race. Hello. #1. How about a Prequel Series instead? To the very birth of the idea to the yhe experimentation that led up to Archers Enterprise?
The Borg as insects was a good idea but having them mechanical gives you something you can't argue with. I could see ants as a communication barrier, but technology can simply have a "there will be no negotiation" that is more final. Voyager had to invent a villain just to give leverage to make the Borg stop and talk. I also would have liked to have seen more Chakotay. That Voyager episode would have been nice to see!
Too much Q would have diluted the sheer awesomeness of the character. They got the amount perfect… I even loved it when he was in DS9 and Voyager (DS9 knockout punch and VOY “What are you doing with that dog… and I’m not talking about the puppy”).
A musical episode of Star trek? This in a manner of speaking has been done, in 2013 a community theatre in the UK performed a production of HMS Pinafore entitled HMS Pinafore : The Next Generation and set aboard the Enterprise D. The character of Dick Deadeye was played as Worf. It was done again in 2018, the full performance of this is on UA-cam.
@@farpointstation I don't know her that well, all I know is she she's dropped some time at work and is doing voice overs again. I've edited one and I know there's about 3 others. Very few people at WhatCulture are on a salary, it's mostly freelance so when things happen and you need to focus on something else then you gotta do that. Like I said I don't know her that well but from what I've seen she's now putting more time into TC.
I am an Avid Viewer of the show 8:45, and I am HERE TO TELL YOU!!! That is an Insult to Kurtwood Smith, Who was Promised The Season for "Year of Hell" to its Ultimate Climax. It Could Have work, even along the lines of bringing Jennifer Lien back for that being her return season on the 2nd halfway point, and most likely make "ST:Voyager" the first 8 season series, behind Stargate: SG-1's 10 seasons.
Year of hell was a great change of pace for Voyager, honestly it would have been better if Voyager leaned into that more over the span of the entire show. I don't mean that in "This show needs to be dark and everything is terrible" kind of way. But more forcing the crew to have to work/trade with these new races to get things they were lacking. Getting torpedoes and hull would have been great for showing the desperation and things like shuttlecraft could have led to misunderstandings and interesting story arcs. They get a new shuttle, it's great! Next season, the shuttle is under attack because the alien species they ran into hate that race and now Voyager is having to deal with the consequences of their trade. Perhaps have to get the crew to work on the shuttle to be more federation looking to avoid trouble. Voyager arriving home looking pristine and perfect was a very weak ending and naturally other reasons didn't help it either. But the show really could have benefited from more Year of Hell...but lighter.
We did get the musical episode in Strange New Worlds and, personally speaking, it was great. Problem is, episodes like this are a one-and-done kind of thing. Cheers....
Everyone noticed the new graph on the player timeline? The one that shows you which bit of the video people watch the most? Notice how it's dead flat during the "fleet command" "chapter"?
Yes, actually, Once More with Feeling has been made into a stage show. A friend of mine was caste as Anya opposite Nicholas Brendon reprising his role as Xander.
It would have been fun if Q were a crew member. But not announced, or explained he'd just be an extra that stood on camera in the background a bit longer than they should
Apologies if anyone has already said this but the only way we are going to get a musical episode in the foreseeable future will be on Lower Decks. Perhaps Q will team up with the evil Coombsputer for... to borrow a word from Spock... hijinks.
0:57 oddly appropriate that the wrong initial is on the tombstone, taken from "Where No Man Has Gone Before". The first ep ever shot w/ Capt Kirk in it, his middle initial was still 'R'...before it was abandoned ;)
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Or a better game.
Can we play with you? Like do you guys actually play and like this game? I understand if not, you gotta get your sponsorships where you can, but it seemed worth asking.
@@GabePuratekuta My better game is a preordered game I get to play on Thursday - Sonic Origins 😁😁😁 Gotta go warp speed! Chili dog, Earl Grey, hot!
This game is not worth it.
It's a repetitive grind, even if you can spend.
The missions also repeat (go here, kill this ship that looks nothing like what we say it is even though we have the model) go over here, kill X hostiles, go home.
Oh, and use your federation ship and crew to *kill everything everywhere, all the time.*
Let Picard become a Borg - forever. Let Data regenerate into another actor. Let Spock remain dead after WoK and recon all the movies - bad any way. Let Season 4 of Enterprise be so. Let
A Season long year of hell would have been epic but they are probably right that some people would not take it well when the reset button was hit and the entire season never happened. That Chakotay episode with him hunting voyagers across the multiverse also sounds really interesting.
in a way discovery is doing this. when u make one main plot the topic of a season u always risk people who dont like the main story.
The season long year of hell style arc was very perfect for ReBoot's third season, that started a few months before this two parter was aired.
The problem with Voyager was nearly every episode undid the entire episode within the last five minutes
If only Janawey somehow could remember what happened in that year of hell (I dunno, Q doing her a "favour"), it would be awesome. And give more depth to her character. Because she would know what's really at stake. And what she's capable of. Would make her decision in the End Game seem more logical as well.
I do remember Kes, right before she left, giving the Voyager crew information to AVOID the Kremin.
I'm glad Year of Hell was just a good two-parter. Pushing the reset button on an entire season would have been hard to stomach. That said, I really wish Voyager had allowed for consequences from previous episodes to carry over, such as damage to the ship, etc. It was always in too good of shape given their situation.
A 3-parter would have been nice to fill in some of those time jumps.
I wanted the Year of Hell to NOT be reset.
AND as you say, show the accumulation of damage, the issues they have to face from episode to episode.
The ship should have been totally unrecognizable by the time they encountered Starfleet or the Federation, and the crew very likely acting far outside the scope of regulations of either.
I really wish Voyager had cared about continuity more. They should have had to deal with material and supply shortages on a regular basis. Battle damage should have stayed visible - even if only as burn marks around repaired parts of the ship. The Maquis members should have kept their individuality, rather than becoming defacto Star Fleet officers.
@@jcspoon573 Unfortunately CGI budget wouldn't have allowed that. These shows were only avoidable at the time because of the use of stock footage.
@@jcspoon573the 2003 reimagined Battlestar Galactica did that. Battle damages were patched but results of the abuse was accumulating.
I really dig the concept of the number one entry here---"The Beginning." They should really consider retooling it as a Paramount Plus limited series that'd serve as the Enterprise reunion we all wanna see. It could work. Not sure how they'd work in Trips character (because we all know they would want to do that), but it wouldn't be impossible to pull off. I still really hope we do get to see the Enterprise cast members get their due in one way or another. I didn't watch Enterprise when it was on (between DS9 and Voyager, I was really burned out on Trek...like many other viewers most likely), but after revisiting the entire series years later, I realized just how good it actually is. I'd love to see them get one more day in the sun.
There's a novel where Trip's death was a fakeout and he become a S31 agent. I thought it would've been cool to do a short ten episode limited series where Archer and the crew discover he was still alive and have to foil some plot. Heck, maybe they influence S31 into becoming the more open and prominent organization we see in Discovery?
If they wanted to revisit that era and that crew, I would watch it. I thought the original idea for ENT S1 was good one too.
@@coltonvanessa5096 sounds like a terrible decision to be a physical organisation 😆
The minefield must be Reed’s idea
@@susanscott8653 I think a show where a team struggle to launch Earth first interstellar ship has great potential.
In a alternate timeline we got a Star Trek series building up to the Earth - Romulan War. Written, shown and similar to the style of DS9, with exploring, great story and space battles). That would have been awesome.
The best thing is, though, that this one can still be done. It's a time-period where no characters we know were around - with the exception of perhaps an aging Archer (Scott Bacula is still around thankfully!) so it would be a perfect candidate for a new series completely separate and distinct from all the others full of brand-new characters.
@@joshuaboniface hell yeah, that would be perfect, especially a cameo from Scott and some others. Let's hope CBS picks up on that idea sticks to the source material from the prime and some ideas from fans 🖖
@@AndersonNeo12 I thing they are planning on more limited run shows like Picard. A Enterprise one focusing on the Romulan war could be great.
I really would like to see them adapt the novels narrative. Which could tie in great with their plans to do more with section 31.
The only real story I can come up with for the Voyager is that Neelix is kidnapped by someone, the Think Tank, Voth, the Vaadwaur, someone new, and they have to take Voyager- B, Federation first slipstream capable vessel to go hunting for him.
It turn out to be some sort of trap and they wanted Voyager in the quadrant. Just because I want to see them again, may have it that species 8472 invasion of Borg space, it turn out that their extermination plans were already moving on from the Borg and that they were attacking other species, have it be that someone took Neelix to lure Voyager back to the Quadrant so they can get hold of their weapon an exterminate species 8472 for destroying their home planet.
Something along those lines.
I hope we get a follow up of "10 Abandoned Star Trek Ideas that would have been awful'
Love the clip of Scott Bakula singing on Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia!
Kirk and Archer accidentally creating the mirror universe is an interesting concept. Though I prefer the origins of the mirror universe as laid out in an epilogue at the end of William Shatner's mirror universe novels (the Shatnerverse, gotta love it): a short scene between Zefram Cochrane and Lily Sloane, the day after the Vulcans landed. Dr. Crusher had given everyone a drug to erase their memories of the past few days, so as to not pollute the timeline; the drug didn't work on Cochrane, and he remembered everything: the crew of the Enterprise, the Borg, all of it. He was trying to decide whether or not to tell the Vulcans about the Borg and the threat they posed, and finally opted to let a coin flip decide whether he told them or not; heads, he tells the Vulcans about the Borg, tails, he doesn't. The scene ends with the coin spinning in the air; the implication being that is the point where the mirror universe diverges from the universe we know. On one path, he tells the Vulcans about the Borg and the two parties, Earth and Vulcan, focus on building their military power so the Borg will not be a threat to them; building an Empire rather than a Federation. That is the timeline that becomes the Mirror Universe. On the other path, he doesn't tell the Vulcans about the Borg, keeping his knowledge of the future to himself; that is our universe, the universe of the Federation. I LOVE that depiction. The creation of an entire universe, the fates of every single living being in it, coming down to one random act of chance by one man. Fantastic.
My thoughts on the origin of the Mirror Universe- in the opening of “In A Mirror, Darkly”, Zefram Cochrane greets the Vulcans by blasting them instead of shaking hands. The reason he shook hands is due to the influence of the time-traveling Enterprise crew, giving Cochrane a vision of what the future will- or could- be. Had they not interfered, Cochrane’s first instinct would have been to take over the Vulcan ship, and thus the Mirror Universe is born.
In other words, the Mirror Universe- our universe- is the prime universe!
@@stephenkehl7158 To me that doesn't really work, the Mirror Universe culture of violence is much longer. Personally I always thought they should have started in 20th century with the creation of the augments and they won the war.
*the full season of dealing with the time ship only to have it resolved at the end of the last episode would have been the equivalent of the Dallas who shot J.R episode...in short...jumping the space shark*
*and while i thought the Xendi arc of Enterprise was very good it did get a bit tedious during a few episodes although i still enjoyed how they were woven together across the overall narrative and context of the events taking place*
Season 6 was far removed from the "Who shot JR" plot line 4 seasons earlier. Season 6 made the unforgivable sin of replacing a deceased regular character, after his death was made a part of the plot. Bringing back Jock Ewing was a mistake that needed a serious fix. Plus getting Patrick Duffy back on the show was also a bonus since his character died in that "dream" season.
@Bill Keith Channel
Remember after bringing Patrick Duffy back as Bobby and writing off all of Season 6 as Pam’s dream the Dallas writers doubled down on bringing back Jock Ewing with the Wes Parmalee storyline of Season 7
@@RobertJohnson-hq6jq Hmm. That's not what I remember. I recall that they went back to Jock being dead and not found in South America. If that is not how it is now then I blame Mandella and not my memory. ;P
With Wesley and Korae working together, there is room for an eventual Assignment: Earth series. We could even see an older Gary Seven and Roberts Lincoln in it.
I don't know Robert drove a Lincoln.
I love Q, but they were 100% correct to not have him be a full time crew member, if the thumbnails is indeed accurate, an episode or 2 a season where they can do anything? Great. Every episode? Show destroying.
The Voyager muiltiverse episode would have been awesome! And honestly, I’d much rather had Star Trek XI: The Beginnings that the JJ verse movies.
The name is rubbish, but Star Trek XI: The Beginnings sound like it had some potential.
"this Chakotay had been convinced that janeway was responsible..." narrator: SHE WAS
There were plans in the early 90s (after Star Trek VI) for an Excelsior series led by George Takei and it was really a missed opportunity.
Says who? Lol I don’t believe this was ever a real thing that could happen
The Slipknot Iowa cover was CLASSIC
Glad you spotted it 👍😂
I did wonder if Ellie was going to ask if "Once more, with feeling" had been translated back into its native Klingon, not turned into a stage show - that threw me a little.
Someone eventually got their wish with the Musical episode in Strange New Worlds this year.
Sean, you are incredible. I have a learning disability. I graduated from high school 11 years ago, plus i can read and write at a 10th grade level. Being part of the Star Trek fanbase helps me forget about the global issues and be with the smartest people. Star Trek is my drug. 😜 no pun intended.
The aborted Tantalus Device/Mirror Universe episode with Jim Kirk; the planned Borg arc and the musical episodes of TNG/DS9/Enterprise would’ve been great to have seen. For DS9 they could’ve made Badda Bing, Badda Bang as the episode and made it a musical Ocean’s 11 caper homage.
The Q arc might’ve worked but with Q covertly keeping tabs on Picard and crew throughout season 2; intervening only when Jean-Luc and the gang learned they were WAY over their heads in a situation, or realize that they do need higher intervention to resolve a scenario.
Even Captain James T. Kirk recognized and acknowledged the existence of God; as he told Apollo in Who Mourns for Adonais: “We find one God sufficient.” Unlike Picard he was never an athiest.
I think a mortal Quinn staying on voyager would have been a cool idea.
Enterprise continues to be a show with such lost potential over a decade after it finished 😅 that first season would have been perfect for modern 10 episode series
I can see the musical episode title now, "Once more at warp speed."
It ended up being called Subspace Rhapsody
Would one of the alternate Voyagers destroyed be the "Terror of the Delta Quadrant"?
I can almost certainly envision one such version being the Warship Voyager, most definitely
Beta canon (the novels) did the Earth-Romulan War, and did introduce the ancestors of a certain Captain as well, sadly poor Columbia Class Enterprise SS-01 (it was upgraded with the new secondary hull) was severely damaged and replaced as the flagship by the Endeavor. (Admiral Archer felt it was too soon to have a new Enterprise). Also introduced various retcons, yes transporters were a thing, but they were not fully safe, too much usage caused brain damage (akin to really bad sea sickness if you were outside of a planetary gravity well) and of course the big spoiler: Trip was NOT dead, he was undercover working for Section 31 to try to stop the Romulans from building faster propulsion than Earth had at that point, he later tried to take down Section 31, which did lead to several key people in the organization being scapegoated and killed, but he could not touch the core leadership who went on to rebuild in secret.
One idea that was bounced around during TOS' time: "Harry Mudd, Space Pirate"
The editor of this video is great! Loved the Slipknot Iowa reference too :-)
You're welcome 👍
Voyager ending up in the alternate universe after the year of hell would have been compelling. The Romulan ending up on voyager would have been somewhat interesting, being stuck on a star fleet vessel.
YEAR of hell?
I always thought Voyager should have been a LOT more brutal in general, and not just one year.
They should have been losing main cast members at random (through both death and them just giving up and deciding to settle down on a random planet.)
There also should have been new crew members added as Voyager picked up those who were in need or desolate.
(Maybe even start with more Ocampa than just Kes.)
There should have been more struggle and trouble from some of the Maquis crew. Maybe even some of the initial Voyager crew starting to sympathize with them. (And some just abandoned when they became too much trouble.)
The ship's limited resources should have been more obvious. (As in the crew visibly struggling not just "replicator limitations")
Finally, it would have made a great season finale at some point to end with the entire ship destroyed and the (then remaining) crew stranded on a barren, uninhabited world. They'd find a way out of it and back to their journey in the next episode three months later, of course, but that could have rivaled "Best of Both Worlds" for Star Trek cliffhangers.
I think the "Year of Hell" for Voyager basically is what Season 3 of Enterprise became, with the ship being battered and beaten over time, but instead of a big "Everything's all peachy again" reset like Voyager, the ship ended up in that different timeline fighting space-nazis (ugh!!!) to restore the future, and all that, cos, time travel, yay...
Prey was a fantastic 2 part WW2 throwback where the crew were fighting Nazis.
How they ended it was really terrible. Also wish there was more ships involve in the battle to save earth. The third season shouldn't have ended on a cliff hanger.
I see that SLIPKNOT poster! 😆
It was Maurice Hurley's fault that the show lost Gates McFadden for Season 2. Thankfully he left!
Also, considering Season 3 is when the show improved, I doubt it would have been better if he'd stayed.
I wish McFadden had never been brought back
Whenever ST is broken down like this Amazing Stories always comes to mind.
Anyone else old enough to remember the show? I've ALWAYS wanted a Star Trek TV show with an Amazing Stories outline. IE No full time cast. Every week is a different crew, ship, race and ear with a few 2 part episodes here and there. Episodes could mention crews and ships from all the shows. They could even take part in events with those shows but they can NEVER include or interact with them. How many we will check on you in a few years missions were never realized. This show could do that. Writers would have all of Star Trek to work into their episodes. That is a TON of good well received content to start a solid plot.
Never could get into Discovery. Picard is ah well I watched it. Lower Decks please go away. At last. Strange New Worlds nailed it!
Thank you for getting that theme song stuck in my head again.
That Star Trek: The Beginning movie idea sounds a whole lot better than letting JJ Abrams crap all over your franchise.
Once More With Feeling is perhaps my favorite episode of the Buffy tv series
I once heard the idea of Porthos being featured in episode of enterprise. I was liked that idea
Hold on there at 0:57 Ellie popping out of James T Kirk's grave? T? Whatever happened to R? Whatever, it's hilarious, I died from laughing so hard at that image, it's priceless. Hey, whatever happened to Brie?
I thought I better correct it 😂 glad you spotted it. Brie is back very soon, some behind the scenes changes but I've personally submitted a video of her for upload 👍
an extra point for the 7:07 clip of Scott Bakula singing being cut from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
ZIGGY ...leap me far from here....
Definitely should see the musical ep. Even if it's just the deck of Discovery's Star Fleet/Federation HQ and Tilly doing/learning the key canon points (like how Arya joined the street troupe in Braavos in ASOIAF from GRRM and depicted in GoT and played out scenes of history and such).
If they reintroduce a Ferengi plotline anywhere the gene therapy for strength would be excellent to see evolve into a rivalry amongst them vs Klingons maybe a underground "boxing" racket
they could go meta and have Ferengi hawking a herbalife style promise with the marketed dream that of "The Whey" and many signs indicate that this indeed is the greatest whey 😅 complete with latinum armor suits and upgrades
They keep casting musical theatre talent in the shows, and then not giving them a musical! It's nuts! Especially as it would be so easy to justify in-universe!
God, the beginning sounds way more interesting then what Abrams put out
You missed Harve Bennett's Star Trek III: Return to Genesis. Romulans were the major baddies and the story had more of a political intrigue element to it. Love what became Search For Spock, but this other version would have been fascinating.
The insect Borg sounds HORRIBLE
That was being set up in TNG with the Conspiracy story, where those parasite things were taking over Admirals and captains. Right before Riker and Picard kill the mother being, it sends a message out. That was supposed to be the message that brought the Borg into contact with the Federation. You can see that story line was entirely dropped.
That's what those bugs from Conspiracy were supposed to lead up to.
The lovely Ellie in another lovely video
Q joining the Enterprise crew could have been really fun. Q is an ancient being with godlike powers, he knows all sorts of secrets about the universe. There'd be scientists, engineers, doctors, historians, etc. all over the Federation, all of the galaxy, going to the Enterprise to ask Q questions about everything.
I can see Q liking all the attention at first but quickly getting annoyed by all the questions people ask him. How do you cure Bendii Syndrome, are these equations for transwarp drive correct, what happened to the Iconians, how do you stabilize the Genesis Effect, what created the galactic barrier. Eventually Q would be so annoyed, he'd willing leave the Enterprise.
I always play some head canon in my head where Picard accepts Q's request to join the crew. Sure Q is "next of kin to chaos" but in my head canon I imagine Picard taking that risk and seeing so many amazing things in the universe with Q protecting them.
Ellie, you have the most beautiful voice perhaps in the history of all time!
Good evening Ellie, I am SADDEN that I did not get to see your lovely smile as you spoke, I am think that most of the ideas are not good. But I would have like the Enterprise series to bridge the gap into the Romulan war Then a good three part episode to finish the series with the most of the crew surviving But some lost.
Sean: "And Lt. La'an Noonien Singh who I would follow into battle in a heartbeat."
Star Trek Fleet Command: "UNFIT TO LEAD"
Omg Klingon Voyager!!!! Hellz yeah!!!! Why was this not made???
...in its five year mission to conquer new worlds, to seek out new life and subjugate their civilization. To boldly expand the empire to worlds no Klingon have gone before! Sigh, a man can dream...
I would love to see Star trek - The Borg how it all Started?
Pls give us Ellie in an Uhura dress ;)
Sure, if I work on an Ellie list that's TOS centric I can fit that in for you 👍
Someone pulled a George Lucas and changed Kirk's tombstone!
9:40 Err... I mean WASN'T SHE? "Hey let's destroy our only means of getting home the most quickest way (like we were just transported here, by the Caretaker)." I get the point that Janeway wouldn't want the Kazons to get their hands on the Array and cause harm to the Ocampas.
BUT don't tell me that by the 2370s engineers forgot how to make A TIMER! Wouldn't it have been easier to rig the torpedoes with a timer? Transport the explosives to the Array, set the timer for like 5 minutes and start the countdown, activate the send-us-home-device, and be back in the Alpha Quadrant like 3 days after they disappeared.
A few shakes from light hits always takes out the timer so someone has to make a sacrifice... :(
@@tetravega567 They should have put Harry behind the trigger then. And after they got home, they would have given an honorary posthumous promotion to the Ensign of Eternity. (Two birds with one stone.) 😊
No, she wasn't. I don't know why even the writers in later seasons seemed to be under the impression that Janeway was responsible. It's explicitly said in the pilot episode that the Array wasn't working and the repair would take longer than the Kazon reinforcements to arrive. Janeway had no chance to use the device to get back home. It was basically out of her hands at this point.
Ehhhh.... I think the producers made the right decision in every single one of these cases.
That Worf vs big Ferengi plot sounded great!
Do y'all have any news on that new Trek game people actually wanna play? The one where they had that old Spock showcase a few months ago.
A season long Year of Hell was also nixed because of costs. They would have been unable to use any stock footage of USS Voyager because of the increasing damage on the hull, necessitating new flyby footage for each and every episode.
I would have loved to see the Star Trek movie with the Earth Romulan War
The buffy episode has been adapted into a stage play by many fans actually. I saw a production of it in 2004's buffy convention in Oakland. They actually did a great job tbh.
5 - That one seems interesting.
The original concept for the VOY episode "Mortal Coil" sounded utterly terrifying. Like Star Trek meets Pet Sematary.
You got a link to the original outline for mortal coil?
I’m now… suddenly very disappointed that RDM didn’t do a musical episode of Battlestar Galactica. That would’ve been frakkin’ hilarious!
I would have loved a duet between Admiral Adama and President Roslin...or Colonel Tigh leading a drunk version of All Along The Watchtower. LOL
He did manage to make "All Along the Watchtower" a prominent ongoing plot point, and in the finale it was the music of Starbuck's father that gave her the coordinates on the final jump. So while he didn't get his musical episode he did work musical themes in, and quite well in my opinion. But yes, a duet between Six and Baltar would have been epic too.
@@michaelstern1217 _“🎶 You called me a toaster, then stuck your bread in my slot! Though I gotta admit… that_ was _pretty hot! 🎶”_
One of the main problems with the Star Trek multiple series beginning with Star Trek TOS and up to Star Trek Enterprise, is that similar plot lines kept showing up in individual episodes from one series to the others. It looks like the show runners kept resurrecting the same plot lines over and over because they were running out of ideas for plot lines. Plot lines reoccurring were the main ship about to blow up, individual characters being kidnapped, failure of the ship's transporter systems, characters being sent to past or future times, etc. It seems to also be occurring to the current versions of Star Trek, like Star Trek Picard and Discovery.
When showing that other video, about TOS, it gets shown so briefly that one has to click on pause. Her name also covers some of its name. Seems like it is '10 Star Trek: The original series episodes that were almost made". (Another one anyway is "10 Star Trek episodes that never got made".)
Give me number 5!
A few episodes of Sliders would be fun.
Knowing what happened with Gates and now hearing about his plans to axe the whole bridge crew, I'm more and more happy that Maurice Hurley left.
As much as I love year of hell, I think I love it because they got it just right. It told its story and didn't need to continue for any more episodes.
#10. Similar idea. Q Continuum members that have committed crimes but are redeemable and must spend time in Starfleet without there powers.
#9. How about a story arc of the Dark past between the Borg and the Bi-Nar?
#8. Worf and Quark are equal strength. And Quark would not be scared to fight him either. I would however, be more interested in Quarks' Klingon children. On The Next Generation Episode, "The
Last Outpost. During a one on one fight: A Ferengi fought with Data, one fought with Worf and a third one put a beat down on Riker.
#7. A Musical. Not enough of a twist. These ideas have been used before. The computer is tampered with by Data, he has a program damaged and was experimenting with musicals at the time.
There is a virus with the crew and the ship is malfunctioning. To get the vaccine for the crew they have to fix the ship first but they have to go through the Holodeck to do so and guess how it
has been reprogrammed. Yes, they have to preform a musical. ?Shakespearian? ?With past crewmen?
#6. I agree, that would have been too much. However, there could be another episode that The Department of Temporal Investigations would have to attend to this to change the event that led to
it.
#5. Why not? It would have to rewritten however.
#4. I like this one too. Just rewrite it for a different crew, like #5.
#3. An Earth based Sector 31?
#2. The Nth Degree? Only it led to another Race. Hello.
#1. How about a Prequel Series instead? To the very birth of the idea to the yhe experimentation that led up to Archers Enterprise?
Some of those ideas could still be worked into upcoming Star Trek shows (like the musical episode, and the last TOS one).
The Borg as insects was a good idea but having them mechanical gives you something you can't argue with. I could see ants as a communication barrier, but technology can simply have a "there will be no negotiation" that is more final.
Voyager had to invent a villain just to give leverage to make the Borg stop and talk.
I also would have liked to have seen more Chakotay. That Voyager episode would have been nice to see!
The movie Phase 4 found a way to communicate with the ants.
And, with those alternate Voyages, also hearing that there should have also been other Voyages but those had already reached home.
Too much Q would have diluted the sheer awesomeness of the character. They got the amount perfect… I even loved it when he was in DS9 and Voyager (DS9 knockout punch and VOY “What are you doing with that dog… and I’m not talking about the puppy”).
A musical episode of Star trek? This in a manner of speaking has been done, in 2013 a community theatre in the UK performed a production of HMS Pinafore entitled HMS Pinafore : The Next Generation and set aboard the Enterprise D.
The character of Dick Deadeye was played as Worf.
It was done again in 2018, the full performance of this is on UA-cam.
A musical Star Trek episode would have been a delight. For cryin' out loud, Power Rangers Zeo had a musical episode with "Song Sung Yellow"!
Didn't Brie produce a handful of videos then go MIA for like a year? She did the same thing at TrekCentral
She's back very soon 👍
@@farpointstation I don't know her that well, all I know is she she's dropped some time at work and is doing voice overs again. I've edited one and I know there's about 3 others. Very few people at WhatCulture are on a salary, it's mostly freelance so when things happen and you need to focus on something else then you gotta do that. Like I said I don't know her that well but from what I've seen she's now putting more time into TC.
There was also the idea of Equinox was supposed to stay with Voyager.
I am an Avid Viewer of the show 8:45, and I am HERE TO TELL YOU!!! That is an Insult to Kurtwood Smith, Who was Promised The Season for "Year of Hell" to its Ultimate Climax. It Could Have work, even along the lines of bringing Jennifer Lien back for that being her return season on the 2nd halfway point, and most likely make "ST:Voyager" the first 8 season series, behind Stargate: SG-1's 10 seasons.
Which Enterprise episode was @12:07 ? I don't remember that Fireball XL-5 takeoff ...
First Flight 👍
Year of hell was a great change of pace for Voyager, honestly it would have been better if Voyager leaned into that more over the span of the entire show. I don't mean that in "This show needs to be dark and everything is terrible" kind of way.
But more forcing the crew to have to work/trade with these new races to get things they were lacking. Getting torpedoes and hull would have been great for showing the desperation and things like shuttlecraft could have led to misunderstandings and interesting story arcs.
They get a new shuttle, it's great! Next season, the shuttle is under attack because the alien species they ran into hate that race and now Voyager is having to deal with the consequences of their trade. Perhaps have to get the crew to work on the shuttle to be more federation looking to avoid trouble.
Voyager arriving home looking pristine and perfect was a very weak ending and naturally other reasons didn't help it either.
But the show really could have benefited from more Year of Hell...but lighter.
It's strange that she didn't bring up the lower decks when talking about the godhead episode
We did sort of get the multiple Chakotays and voyagers in both shattered and relativity
I have actually considered doing a stage version of Once More With Feeling.
We did get the musical episode in Strange New Worlds and, personally speaking, it was great. Problem is, episodes like this are a one-and-done kind of thing. Cheers....
Thanks. 🖖🏻
The Borg as a colony of alien roaches.....now that would have been interesting.They're hard to kill anyway and would make it much more scarier.
Everyone noticed the new graph on the player timeline? The one that shows you which bit of the video people watch the most? Notice how it's dead flat during the "fleet command" "chapter"?
Yes, actually, Once More with Feeling has been made into a stage show. A friend of mine was caste as Anya opposite Nicholas Brendon reprising his role as Xander.
Sounds like two of the worst elements of early TNG were Gene Roddenberry and Maurice Hurley.
The Year of Hell two-parter was so good! I would have loved if they made that into an entire season.
I honestly need a star trek musical now
“The Beginning” trilogy couldn’t possibly be worse than the big steaming dump that Abrams took on the franchise.
It would have been fun if Q were a crew member. But not announced, or explained he'd just be an extra that stood on camera in the background a bit longer than they should
Wasn't there a planned spin off for Gary7 in the 60s? Set on earth.
yes there was
Gary Seven.
@@terminat1 Any relation to Blake Seven ?
Assignment Earth
I don’t think anyone could make a giant Ferengi terrifying, when you could trigger their horror with a photo of a clothed female.
😂
Cue a planet of Ferengi Amazons.
Rule 34 🫣🤮
The Year of Hell storyline should've spanned an entire season.
0:56 But that gravestone read "James R Kirk."
Yup, fixed it 👍
would have loved to seen that Ferengi episode
A stage version of Once More With Feeling was attempted in San Francisco (with Joss Weedon's approval), but Fox shut it down at the last minute.
13:25 - Elements of this story idea made it into the _Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda_ episode "Harper 2.0".
Paramount + needs to do their own 'What If...' series
Apologies if anyone has already said this but the only way we are going to get a musical episode in the foreseeable future will be on Lower Decks. Perhaps Q will team up with the evil Coombsputer for... to borrow a word from Spock... hijinks.
0:57 oddly appropriate that the wrong initial is on the tombstone, taken from "Where No Man Has Gone Before". The first ep ever shot w/ Capt Kirk in it, his middle initial was still 'R'...before it was abandoned ;)
I though I better correct it 😉👍
01:20 Was it cold in the studio when you shot this?