Fishman Fluence Classic Humbuckers vs. Seymour Duncan JB & Jazz | PICKUP SHOOTOUT
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- Опубліковано 30 жов 2017
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Today I'm shooting out the Fishman Fluence Classic Humbucker Pickups against the Seymour Duncan JB & Jazz Pickups!
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Guitar: Epiphone Les Paul with Fishman Fluence Classic Humbucker Pickups
Bass: Fender Jazz Bass with EMG JX pickups
Tones: Line 6 Helix Rack with Rosen Digital IRs
Drums: Superior Drummer 2.0
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playing metal with jazz pickups. You must be pretty smart
Yeah, thanks for that man.
@@GerryTrevino e.e
Find me one jazz player that uses a JB. I'll wait ;)
I didnt know Jeff Beck was jazz artist
@@NickJennison Alex skolnick, he got 2 ltd signature guitars loaded with a JB in the bridge
I seriously doubt 99% of the commenters could tell the difference in a true blindfold test. For my money, the fact that you are getting 3 sets of pickups for ~$250 (Fishman added single coils) is a no-brainer.
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The fluence do have an unreal amount of note separation
That's why I love them so much!
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@@GerryTrevino I listened to it sounds great👍 i could be wrong but i feel i hear u used fishmans on it, sound was so clear. Is that correct?
@@Mrdude30 Good ear, I used the Tosin Abasi set for the whole EP!
Sort of reminds me of a G&L
MFD pickup when it comes to the degree of note separation
You made both sound absolutely fantastic, lol.
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Man it was so close between the two for me. I think I preferred the Fishmans because it sounded like it had a little more clarity but you can definitely tell they used the Jazz and Jb as an inspiration for the Classics. Phenomenal demo. I'm sold on getting the Classics now haha
Thank you! I love the classics \m/
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Tough call man. The Fluence set are obviously voiced to be very similar to the JBs. That said, the note separation is just magic on those Fishmans, especially under high gain. I think that's gonna be the decider for me.
Yeah, the note separation is unreal on the Fluence set. Love them!
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Seems like they're very similar, but the Duncan's have more balls on the low end, while the Fishman classics are tighter overall
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They both sound very very similar but I think the Fishman’s tracked your picking better. Tighter and more exact. That’s the beauty of active pickups.
I think i like the the jb more for the riffing they just have a more pronounced low end. Im a fishman guy but to me these classics sounded a little tinny for metal I think these are more intended for a classic rock type sound.....the cleans are a different story though...son of a bitch....they are just fucking incredible. Im glad i went with one of these in my neck position.
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But calling this technology “active pickups” is a misnomer. They only have a battery to run the preamp in the circuit. Not to make the coils charged higher like in actual active pups.
@@andrewsanchez4988 I think this "thin metal sound" problem is with all alconico magnet pickups. The palm muted power chords sound weak compared to ceramic. Old school thrash metal guys used JB but nowadays you can get thousand better metal pickups with tight low response in down tuned riffing
@@raakareiska9804 No this thin metal sound is from modern ceramics that designed to roll off the bass to make the sound "tighter" for modern down tuned guitars.
The passive pickups resonance shifts with the cable capacitance that terminates it. A short cable makes them sound shrill, a longer cable makes them sound jazz. The amps input impedance also matters. The most ingenious thing about the fishmans is that they took a PAF and terminated it so that the resonance always is at the same frequency and intensity. Then they use a built in amplifier to make it sound the same regardless whatever you connect to your guitar.
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Funny how a 35 year old designed pickup set is still giving modern pickups active and passive a run for its money.
That's part of the "problem." SD has had 35 years to persuade you they sound great and so you can't come to any comparison "clean" of that bias.
Everything I've seen about Fishman is about how clear the sound is and that's the appeal. Tone is subjective.
Douglas Bell You call it “bias” but is it bias when you can actually explain in detail why you like one over the other? Nope. That’s called an opinion.
Funny how an active pickup made out of PCBs is giving a beloved 35 year old staple of the pickup industry a run for its money.
The fact that these two pickups sound so comparable to each other is a testament to the Classic, not the JB. If you think they’re that close, then Fishman has succeeded in capturing the JBs sound in a single pickup which also produces convincing PAF and single coil sounds.
yea man I have alot of les Paul's an all different sets of pick ups but one of my two black customs with the jb.is still one of my road dogs
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I just replaced my Kiesel Lithiums with the SD Hot Rodded Set and am very happy that you posted this comparison. Many folks have raved about the Fluence as the ideal pickups for the Kiesel Vader, but I just do NOT like the added complexity and battery issues that come with active pups. YES there are slight differences between the Fishmans and Seymour Duncans, but they are very, VERY similar sounding, and both sound AWESOME! To me, the added battery to the rig just isn't worth the slight difference in sound. GREAT job with this! It obviously took significant effort and you have helped a lot of folks here! You have talent, skills and a heart for your fellow guitarists, so please ignore the few trolling bozos in the comments!
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Only one person commented on the fact that with the Fishmans you are getting tons more versatility. I am a huge fan of JB but I just played the classic opens and the tonal possibilities are much more vast with less hum/noise. Great vid by the way.
Thank you so much!
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Agreed as a Fishman owner and JB 59 owner I can back that up. Both are excellent pickups but the fishmans have so many voicing options and the "coil split" tones are also really good with the Fishman pups. In coil split mode they still take gain really well. I wired my modern set for inner or outer splits for each coil so I can mix the inner or outer coils on each pup or play them solo if I want(each pickup has a 3 way on off on dpdt toggle to accomplish this since my volume and tone push pulls select for voice one or 2 for each pup. So volume is bridge voice 1 or 2 and tone is neck voice 1 or 2 and l added another 3 way switch for voice 1 low gain. So it's full gain in the middle position low gain for just the neck on one side and low gain for both on the other side. With my tying and gauges I didn't notice a worthwhile difference with the HF tilt option so I just wired that to a slider switch on the control cavity and mounted the switch to the side wall in the cavity so if I want to use that feature on the future I can.). They really do have unreal note separation and way more power. With passive pups more power means less clarity which is why a lot of progressive metal guys are using lower output humbuckers these days like Mark Holcomb. But with fishmans you get both. I dont use 9v batterys with my Fishmans anymore and they are much better in my opinion that way. Instead I use a TRS cable that brings in 9-18v of variable dc power to the guitar on the extra wire and the other 2 are just like any other TS wire. So all I do is plug in and they are powered. Anyways I LOVE the Fishman moderns but it took me at least a year to get used to them. Now I can dial them in for every possible sound I could get with passives without thinking about it but that took time. I had to get my string gauges right etc. Now my amp eq for my passives and Fishmans stays the same but for a long time I had to tweak my amp for each one. Point being the Fishman pups have a learning curve in my opinion but they are everything they claim to be and more. Passives are great and I'll always have passive equipped guitars but if you only have one guitar and need versatility then the fishmans are for sure the way to go. The only downside is that the Fishmans dont react well with vintage fuzz pedals or pedals that dont like having a buffer before them. But the good news is that these days there are tons of fuzz pedals that work just fine with buffers and active pups.
I have both sets, and of course the Classics are a tad more defined, but after I put in the JB's and play them for awhile. I will say, but I really do love my Fishman Classics. They are beastly! Great side by side demo, thanks!
They're both great really! Thanks for watching, if you liked this consider checking out my new Mario cover! ua-cam.com/video/1CGeJQA-0UI/v-deo.html
I've had the JB/Jazz combo and own the Fishman Fluence, although they're the single "coils." I love the vintage combo of the SD's, but those Fishman Fluence are just amazing.
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Great comparison video. Your playing is spot on!!! Thank you.
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I am very very late to the party, but I've tried the Fishman on a somewhat similar setup as you did (Les Paul custom and high gain metal band), but I've always gone back to the EMG 57/66 set or the Duncans. I can't seem to handle the Fishman sound properly when I play them. They are so precise and crisp when other people play them, but when I do I feel...nothing. And the funny part is that that is exactly what people seem to say about EMG pickups, and yet my sound basically revolves around that compression that EMG gives.
So I ended my own internal debate around pickups : there's no bad pickup, tone is so subjective, it only depends on context and the dude playing them.
Great video though, we can hear the difference for sure!
Wow after all these years of publishinh JB And Jazz pickups they are still so versatile and their clarity and resonanse in feeling every note is gorgeous.
Fishman fluences are great combination of passive's dynamic And Active's High gain Outputs But for me still Seymour duncan is the deal.
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They sound almost EXACTLY the same. Even isolated.
Try running the DI's through your own setup! They're available in the description. Thank you for watching, if you liked this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e
And still the passives reign supreme for a lot less
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Very subtle differences. I'd be happy with either. I'd be even happier if I could play like you!
Aw, thank you for the kind words!
That right hand 👌👌👌👌 🔥
^_^
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Thank you very much for sharing the DI tracks.
When I first listened with my DT 770s, I thought the Fluence Classics were the clear winners. As I've played with the DI tracks using various plugins, I found that if I ran an EQ before the amp and honed in on slight cuts in the lows and mids, I could get the JB to sound incredibly close to the Fluence Classic. This increased the articulation and note separation. The Fluence Classics still seem to layer a bit better together however.
Both pickups sound great in your video and with reamping. Honestly, I think I still would pick the Fluence Classics, but it's much closer now. For the cleans, I think I actually prefer the Jazz.
Again, thanks for sharing and for making an excellent demo. Very helpful. Dig the riffing a lot too.
Thank you for the kind words and nicely done experimenting with the DIs! I love the Fishman Fluence stuff. I'm hoping to do a video on the Moderns in the near future!
Gerry Trevino please do
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Maaaaannn. I need that first tone on HELIX. Same guitar setup.
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Either way, I have both these sets and way more too, they both sound killer and you're a great player. Thanks for the excellent video!!!!
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Amazing comparison. Some sounds were almost equal. Sometimes the Fishmans sounded more brilliant. Sometimes the Duncans sounded more powerful. I prefer the Fishmans in the mix, and the Duncans on their own. I think it'll end up like comparing vinyl with CDs. One sounds better, the other one has more magic.
Haha nice analogy!
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Super tight playing! Nice bro 😎
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Wow, I was just looking for a review of these two setups. Good job!
Thank you!
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Exactly what I was looking for. Love the shirt! I miss them so.
Thanks for watching! They're my favorite band on the planet!
@@GerryTrevino No problem! Its funny I found your video because I've been following you on Instagram haha.
Mine too! One of the reasons I started playing music.
Thanks for the great video bro!
Thank YOU for watching bro!
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Excellent comparison! They sound very close to my ears.
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Awesome video, you rock! 🤘
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The fishman do it for me. Nice song too. 👍🏻 some good riffs.
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They sound fkn identical in the mix...Wait, the clean part at 3:15 I can actually notice a difference. The Fishmans are clearer. Same thing when you play them in isolation, but in the mix they're damned near identical. IDK maybe it's the quality of my desktop speakers, they're not too great, but then again they're probably around the same quality speakers that most average YT viewers have!
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The bridge pups are very similar on single note riffs, but I might enjoy the mid push of the JB more for that. For chords the fishman win hands down due to the wide range nature of the pup and the note separation. Also I think the SD 59 would have been more comparable to the fishman neck than the jazz
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A little more low end to my ear on the fishman and a shift from low end to low mid with the SD TB4, but very similar. Pretty awesome.
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I’d say fishmans are the best active pickup and Seymours are the best passive
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Active only in that the battery runs the preamp. They are not active like an EMG in which the battery is to make a stronger electromagnetic field.
I like them both about the same, they are really close. You can't beat the jb/jazz set for the money though, I have the jb/jazz set and just might have to get me some of them fluence classics. That's some kick ass playing there bro, those riffs are still in my head after you stopped playing, love it.
The Classics are great considering I only really showcased 1 voicing which is only a 3rd of the potential of those pickups. Thank you so much, if you liked this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e
dang that performance was tight! nice playing! :O
Why, thank you!
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Both sets sound awesome. Nice playing!
Thanks!
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@@GerryTrevino dude I’m so late to seeing this but I’ll check this out asap!
@@AlwayzTired Thank you so much, I appreciate that!
Clean seemed to be the biggest difference, its like the Fluence Classics are a less muddy version. Perhaps a little EQ would remedy it.
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Splitting hairs! If my life depended on being able to tell these appart, i'd be dead. On the single tracks I thought I heard a very high frequency sizzle on the JB, but other than that, in real life situations... yep. Good stuff!!!
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Love the song!!
Thanks!
G. Trevino which one is it? I didn't see it in your description :(
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Duncan's win. Much more organic-sounding and clean tones have life, whereas the Fishman's focus so much on consistency that they lose dynamics.
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They both sound good.
Agreed!
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Hello G!!! Just a little Inquery what brand/gauge are you using on this demo??? Keep making great stuff.
I'm pretty sure I was using Ernie Ball Skinny Top/Heavy Bottom 10-52 gauge strings in this demo. I use Ernie Ball strings for just about all of my guitars!
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I thought that the fish mans were gonna be better but the jb sounds better
agreed
The fishmans seem to be better suited for heavier tones. They're a little dirtier while the JB is more punchy. It's all personal preference to be honest.
There's a reason,why the JB is S.Duncan's most sold pickup,for almost 40 years.The thing gets the job done,simple as that.
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JB sounds like what the Fluence wants to be.
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Both PUs are awesome. But the JB sounds more old school and i love old school sounds.
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Love my Fishman Moderns and my JB an 59' set. They are both excellent pups. With that said I'm considering a set of classics or moderns for my new PRS.
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Very close, but the Duncans sound better to me especially in the mids.
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Great review and they both sound great! Fluence obviously has that clarity and response. Looks like when you go to the SD your body language changes a bit. Notice you're picking harder. I noticed that when I A/B sometime
Holy moly Ken Susi commented on my video! You're awesome, bro. Fluences definitely has the clarity hands down. Also, I agree on the picking harder with the SD's. I had to push a little harder to get to where the Fishmans can get you effortlessly. Not to mention I only showed one voice of the Fluences. There's a whole 'nother world to these pickups that I didn't even showcase in this video. Btw Ken, I do a ton of gear demos on my channel and I would love to work with you guys and showcase more Fishman Fluence stuff. If that's something that you're interested in, I'd love to hear from ya. Stay safe out there! contact@gerrytrevino.com
Wow! 10k views! I told ya, you'll get famous) Great melodic riffs, by the way!
Haha thank you for the support!
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As a casual listener, I couldn't tell the difference. I would go for the Fishman because they've got two voices, so for ~$100 extra you get more flexibility with no loss of tone.
Yeah, the two voicings are great and if you wire them properly, you can even get some split single coil sounds!
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The Fluence have the extra voices which is nice. They are not active pups like EMG are active. The battery is to operate the preamp, not to make a stronger magic field around the pup. I’ll take the Fluence all day.
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This guys playing reminds me that I’ll suck no matter what pickup I choose.🤦♂️🤦♂️
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The fishman neck pickup is incredible in both voices I have the set on a Jackson modern 7 string. It really sings on leads warm and fluid like a dream. The bridge I don't like as much as the fluence modern bridge but it's ok.
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Wow... The tones are INCREDIBLE!! Not to mention the AWESOME riffs too!
I first came for the comparison but I'm now here again for the song...
Is the song composed specifically for this vid or is it an existing song??
Thank you so much for the kind words! I wrote the song for this video, but I may rerecord it in Drop C instead of Drop D like I originally tracked it. Currently working on my first solo album and I'm still on the fence if I'm going to include this song.
@@GerryTrevino You really should! The song is AWESOME!
@@oco2203 The song did not make the album, but you can listen to it here! soundcloud.com/gerrytrevino/sage-fishman-fluence-classic-humbucker-pickups-vs-seymour-duncan-jb-jazz-pickups And here's that solo EP I was talking about! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e
@@GerryTrevino The riffs on the record are also killer man! Really liked the intro on Cry Havoc👍👍
@@oco2203 Thank you so much for the kind words! 🙏 That's one of my favorites!
I wish you would do this same video with the Moderns vs Classic fluence, or the Tosin Abasi signature 6 string fluences
I would actually love to demo all of those pickups! However, it would cost money on my end to do so. If you wanna see me demo more Fishman products, please contact Fishman or Ken Susi via socail media or private message and tell them that you want to see me demo a product!
That guitar tone is sick. What's the amp you're basing your tone off of?
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Hey, do you have those helix presets available? They sound really great and I’d love to try them
Not at the moment, but I will be working on that soon!
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It’s crazy, I think the Duncan’s sounded way better in the mix but in the isolated tracks they were allot closer 🤔
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Guess I won’t be stopping out my SD’s for Fishman’s then !!!
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There’s something about the Fluence Classic set that makes me think of the EMG 57/66 set, which is one reason why I enjoy the way it sounds so much.
On the other hand, if you were planning on playing with a passive pickup and still wanted to get some sick Metal tones to compete with an active pickup, the JB is the pickup to use.
Not a bad comparison, and yes the JB is still great after all these years!
Question. I just ordered an ibanez rg450dbx with quantum pickups, meranti body, and jatoba fretboard. If you were to upgrade the quantum (passive) pups, what would be your first pick?
It really depends on the type of music you play!
@@GerryTrevino what about a versatile all around pickup. That would allow me to play metal, rock, even pull out some chicken pickin when the need be :). Mostly metal though!
@@dalbyonemanband The Fishman Classic set is nice! They come with 3 voices now. If you like this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e
The Fishman seemed to have a little more clarity and I think sounded slightly nicer on most parts except the strummed chorus, where that clarity almost made it too busy. Certainly some very slight differences in the EQ curve of where there's emphasis in the pickups. Both are good pickups though. If I was just going to fix them in with just one voice then I wouldn't bother with the Fishman's, but if you have it set up to switch the three voices of the pickups, then they would add awesome versatility.
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Two thoughts; 1 I didn’t hear a hundred dollars worth of difference. 2 The harmonics on the Duncans were superior , sounded better clean and more “alive” in general.
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Both are great but the Fishman have a like more balance, clarity, & bottom end.
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When you installed the Fishmens do they have push/pull on that guitar?
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I think the only difference is $150.00 bucks more for the fluence and additional backpack battery
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it seems like the Clarity all these people are talking about is something like a little notch at i would say around 200 and 500 hz
the rest is very close to my ears.
what if find really interesting is the chance of hum reduction onstage oder in the studio.
is there a big differenve with hum?
crank the gain to the max and compare the DB´s of background noise if that is possible?
Great idea for a video!
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I love how they both sound for different reasons. The Fishmans have amazing clarity but almost too much with chords and heavy distortion. Single notes though, holy balls!
The Duncan's have such girth to them. Honestly the Fishman's sound like the Duncan's with a tube screamer up front. I'm willing to bet if you tried the screamer with the jb it would be extremely close. Awesome job
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Such an awesome comparison. Have the Fluences lasted for you, or have they come and gone? I'm coming back to this as I am reconsidering the Fleunce/Classics after not loving them 2 years ago, but that was more to hating the guitar I had them in. The EQ is obviously quite spot on. On the other hand, the difference in feel of the passives seems noticeable in some cases. It is like there is an added layer of depth and dynamics in the palm mutes. But outside of that I can't tell any other noticeable enough differences. I am going to try out the set of Classics that I still have lying around into my travel/writing guitar for the versatility, but I'll likely be keeping my Bare Knuckle sets in the rest of my collection for that extra bit of mojo for the times that I can really enjoy it. That said, I would go nuts over a Fluence set that has 3 voices that go from the Bare Knuckle Black Dogs and Holy Diver (or Alnico Nail Bomb) then the single coil voice would be the Voice 2 from the Greg Koch P90 set.
Thank you for the kind words! Great question, I actually sort of flip flop between Fishman and Duncan. Currently I have the Seymour Duncan Nazgul & Sentient set in one of my guitars and that's currently my favorite! The newer revisions of the Fishman Fluence Classic set actually have 3 voicing now including a single coil voice, so it might be worth exploring again! I hope that helped, if you liked this, consider checking out my solo EP! bit.ly/3dKJ6Fi
@@GerryTrevino Makes sense with the genre and general tone you are working with, and that SD pairing sounds great for that. Checked out your EP. Great stuff and definitely something to be proud of. Keep up the great work!
@@Tiger1016. Thank you so much for that!
In the mix they both sound great. However, The passives sound more full & rich on the solo tracks IMO
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Now that you have had a couple of years to play the Fluence pickups, what are your thoughts? Do you prefer them to the Seymour Duncans?
I don't really prefer one over the other since I feel like they're so different and suited for different applications. The Fishmans are definitely the next level technology that they claim and if you're looking for pristine signal, then that's the way to go. However, if you're looking to add some color that traditional pickups give you, then I'd go with the Duncans as I've been these days. Both are great! Hope that helps, if you liked this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e
@@GerryTrevino Thanks, man. Also, I just purchased your album. Looking forward to giving it a listen.
@@thomascampitelli3268 Thank you SO much for that, it really helps! 🙏
cool song dude
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idk why they sounded almost similar this are both great pick ups overall any would be an impressive set to have
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Voice 2 is like the JB with more treble
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Fishman remind me of the smoothness of ceramic in the lows and mid. Duncan's have Les punch but sound simply better on high mid (the cut through zone). They both sound good on the very tops.
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Nice work on this. I'm currently trying to figure out why my fluence modern tone is shitting the bed in my Prophecy. Battery is new and swapped the guitar to see if it was the guitar for sure and it definitely is. Both pickups seem effected. No idea what to do. Why does everything nice in my life have to turn to shit on a daily basis
Thanks! Oh no, I'm sorry to hear that. I'd probably contact Fishman to see if they can give you a hand!
I haven't heard a set of Fluence pups I like yet. They all sound thin and lacking in the low end, fizzy on the high end, and plasticky/unnatural in the mids. That's through quality tube amps. With amp sim tweaking, they're better, but I'll take EMG actives or Dimarzio passives over them any day.
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As a passive fan myself, I have always thought that "active" pickups were great for cleans and bass pickups. I like the growl of passive pickups more than the tighter active growl.
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They both sound really good, and I think a lot of it has to do with the tone you've got going on as a baseline for both pickups. Awesome metal tone. There's this certain "pop" you get on the single note riffs. If you're familiar with As I Lay Dying, they get that same kind of tone on their single note stuff, especially on their album Shadows are Security. I don't know how to better describe it as the notes just "pop" when they're fretted. It's got this weird "quack" like sound on the initial attack of fretting each note. Every time I go listen to AILD, I hear it right away. I think a lot of it is there playing style, they've also used 5150/6505s for a long time, most likely boosted which is standard with that amp for modern metalcore tones.
But yeah back to the pickups. The JB sounds like a JB. A lot of mids, rolled off highs and a lot of low end. The Fishman sounded more hi-fi, more treble response, less bass(but still plenty), and just as tight as the JB. I typically am not a fan of the Duncan JB. I've always thought they sounded way too harsh in the mid-range, almost like that stereotypical "cocked-wah" like description. I've played that pickup in a lot of alder body superstrat style guitars, and I never really jelled with it. I'd much prefer a Duncan Custom(SH-5) over a JB in pretty much any guitar. I'd say both pickups sound very similar despite everything. In the mix, I thought the fishmans sounded better. By itself, single track, I thought the JB sounded better. Most likely due to the extra low end punch of that pickup where as that usually gets lost or tuned out in a full mix anyway. I'd be content with either of those tones though, no question.
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I actually struggle with this a lot actives do have a an advantage where sonically they sound different than passives. I've tried so many actives and these sound great to me but my personal preference is passives just use to the natural sound i install push pulls and it was perfect for me. I have not been able to get to fully like actives I just like the sound I get with passives and I don't need to change batteries ever. Actives are pretty fun but I have been able to achieve the sound I like with passives.
Well said, they both have their pros and cons. Thanks for watching!
Honestly, the Fishman pickups sound just as good as the Seymour Duncans; it just depends on what tone you're looking for.
Note: The Fluences will be easier to work with in a DAW and are much, much more versatile than the Duncans. If you want a certain sound, get Duncans. If you want a wide variety, then get Fluences (but get the Tosin Abasi ones, take a listen and you'll see why).
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as I lay dying much?? lolololol
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JB won in the mix but the fisherman's shined when soloed. Best comparison video I've seen.
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OK I've been watching this video for an hour now and I need you to post this song on your SoundCloud so I can download this and blast it for a couple more hours. I honestly like both the full and drum less versions. I you can, post both lol.
I know I've been slacking on the SoundCloud uploads! I'll do my best get it updated!
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Hey man! How are the frets of your LP?
They were pretty great right out of the box, although I did get a fret level on it back when I still had that guitar. If you liked this, consider checking out my solo EP! li.sten.to/TnIWX1e
@@GerryTrevino thanks man! Keep it up!
@@charlesbelarminesilla5943 Thank YOU for watching!
Great comparison. Impressed by both but leaning towards the Duncan’s the clean is important also figure in coil tap etc
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Not to be picky, but it's coil *split* and a support person from Fishman told me it's possible with their humbuckers...
Yeah, you can split the fishman and get 4 tones per pickup. Versatility can't be beat
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I think the Fishmans sound better and would be more versatile for me. But those riffs!
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Hmm, seems like there's not a world of difference in the mix, but the Fishmans have more clarity while the SD's are slightly fatter. Anyway, awesome demo and song).
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Great vid, cool tune, ignore the haters.
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Fishman's are killer for clean tones. But I prefer Duncan's cause they sound warmer.
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Fishmans are clearer, brighter, more sparkly sounding in clean and distorted tones in this demo. I wonder how is the behaviour of those pickups when it comes to dynamics, which are the weakest point for active pickups. When you hit the strings hard and don't care about dynamics even a pair of EMGs would sound better than most pasive pickups. Versatility is often when active pickups fail
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I find Fishmans to be a bit on the sterile side. I prefer the JB/Jazz combo which I have in a few guitars. Been using it for years.
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How tall are you? That guitar looks massive on you!
I'm 3'4"!
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Xelent demo.
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What is the song man ? its awesome and the test is very nice even though i dont hear any difference
Thanks! I've been calling it "Sage" and it's up on my SoundCloud although that version uses the Fishman Fluence Classics for the entire track. soundcloud.com/gerrytrevino/sage-fishman-fluence-classic-humbucker-pickups-vs-seymour-duncan-jb-jazz-pickups
@@GerryTrevino so which set you prefer?
@@ariskoskinas The Fishmans by far!
Gerry Trevino any experience with emg 81 compared to fish man ?
@@ariskoskinas The EMG 81 sounds closer to the Fishman Modern Fluences than the Classics. The Fishman Fluence Modern Humbuckers give you everything you love about active pickups, like the EMG 81, without any of the baggage (i.e. compressed, dull sound).