Great stuff 👏 I love what GoPro Labs are doing. I use 200mpbs and turned off the noise reduction and that already made a huge difference. I want to use the wide color more but I'm having trouble with color grading that footage in Premiere Pro, I can't seem to get nice vibrant colors afterwards 🤔
Thank you. Yes that's right! I work with the Qualifier in DaVinci Resolve. Without this tool it would often be difficult to get the maximum "color depth". In my opinion, the maximum result can be achieved in combination with the hdr color wheels.
@@M0LLER75 You need to install the GoPro Labs firmware in order to be able to turn off the noise reduction and it only works for GoPro 11 and 12. The automatic noise reduction leaves you with a really soft image especially on higher ISO, you lose all the details. If you turn it off, you'll get a really noisy image but it's very fine grain, it basically retains the details even on higher ISO. Using noise reduction in post you can achieve much better results. Before this i never went over 400iso...now i can go up to 1600 if necessary and i can still get usable footage. It makes the GoPro more usable in low light situations. Yes it's extra work in post but it's totally worth it.
Great video, thank you. Are you going to get the GoPro12? Your videos are already amazing on the GoPro 11 and I am guessing the new log profile isnt going to be any different than the GoPro Labs adjustments. The log on the 12 is the main reason why I would want to get it, but I am wondering if I should just save myself $100 and opt for the GoPro 11.
Thank you! I'm honestly a little disappointed with the GoPro 12, as I would have expected either a larger sensor or higher resolution. Actually the GoPro 12 has hardly any improvements compared to the GoPro 11. Also GoPro-Log doesn't interest me, because I can already set a very flat image profile with GoPro Labs, which you also wrote. Also the hdr mode is completely unusable for me. The price difference is 50 dollars. For 50 dollars you already get 2 additional batteries for the GoPro 11. By the way, I think that the dji Action 4 is also not so good, because then I can not set 200 Mbps. The only advantage is the slightly larger sensor. I would recommend to buy the GoPro 11.
Thanks this is great to know. What about horizon lock shold I have it on or do it in post? And what about GoPro 12 should I use the same settings as GoPro 11?
I've never used Horizon lock, but I would set the setting in the GoPro to on. I don't have a GoPro 12 and am rather disappointed with what the camera offers compared to the GoPro 11. If I had a GoPro 12, I would probably use the same settings. What you should test, however, is the combination of the new GP-Log profile and the GoPro Labs profile. In principle, it's not a bad thing if the camera has an extremely desaturated profile, but it could be difficult to get a high-contrast and colorful image in the editing program.
I use hero 11 on fpv drone, and I can't tell the difference between 120mbs nd 200mbs after rendering and uploading video somewhere, only major difference is in file sizes, that's why i switched back to 120 from 200 after few weeks of filming. Also WIDE=1 and locked white balance are important.
Sounds interesting, but with my GoPro I almost always see a difference between 120 Mbps and 200 Mbps. Even when I use the camera on a toboggan run, for example, I still see a difference. Maybe that's because I'm upscaling the resolution so my video isn't compressed as much. Yes, Wide=1 is definitely important, provided you want to color grade the footage. Thanks for your comment!
@@davidsilberhorn well, the bitrate helps when there's alot of moving particles in the frame, but really, who is switching to 8K on UA-cam when watching some clip from action camera 😅 Also I'm shooting at 30fps most times, there's basically no extra detail due to the optics with 2x bitrate... with higher fps, the bitrate definitely helps. Here's small sample ua-cam.com/video/K1uZsMKFc38/v-deo.html
The file size of the individual clips is probably too large and can no longer be viewed directly via the GoPro. However, if you move the clips to a PC, you can certainly play them back or at least edit them in a software program. Incidentally, you can set the maximum file size per clip in the GoPro lab settings. This allows the camera to play back all clips directly via the GoPro. I hope this solves the problem?
I have checked now, the files was on the SD card even though both in the camera and app said there where no files recorded on the micro sd card, and I could not play them back. Have you not experienced the same? Could this have something to do with my settings in 200?
@@M0LLER75 Unfortunately, I have never had such a problem with my GoPro 11. I can only recommend that you download the free version of DaVinci Resoolve or another editing program to try again. If that doesn't solve the problem, you could turn off the "permanent" checkbox in labs and scan the code again. Otherwise I would try to contact GoPro support as I don't have any other suggestions.
The GoPro Labs settings are applied to all GoPro presets. If you want to change the settings quickly and easily, I would recommend creating one or more printed GoPro Labs QR codes, which can then be held in front of the camera at any time. By the way, this also works underwater and is very helpful because the touch screen does not work underwater.
If I install GoPro labs will the Quick app work as usually? And if I do change in the app how will that effect changes in GoPro labs? And will I still get a message from the Quick app when new firmware is available?
I've used my GoPro 11 to record 5.3K 200Mbit video or a long time, now, it refuses to do so. When I record, it stops recording after 46 seconds and when trying with a brand new MicroSD card the exact same issue persists. I don't know if the GoPro somehow has become less performant, but when lowering to 150Mbit, it works.
Are you really using a sandisk extreme pro? Otherwise, could you set the bit rate to non-permanent? Maybe the GoPro support can help. Sorry I don't have a solution.
Thank you very much! In the video I show the three most important settings in GoPro Labs: maximum bitrate, flat image profile and an improvement of the flat image profile. The other settings in GoPro Labs are not important and I don't use them. I would be very happy about a subscription, have a nice day.
Sorry for the late reply. GoPro Labs also supports the GoPro hero 7, I don't think the camera can record in 180 Mbps. The other features should be possible, such as the flat image profile...
GoPro Labs can definitely be used on the GoPro 10. I also found a note on the internet that says you can increase the bitrate of the GoPro 10 to 200 Mbps. So everything should work as in my tutorial.
I will definitely not buy the GoPro 12, because the camera offers virtually no significant improvements compared to the GoPro 11. The cameras are actually completely the same. The HDR mode is not really HDR. The new log profile is not important because GoPro Labs offers exactly the same. I actually expected a larger sensor or higher resolution.
@@davidsilberhorn i really like the possibility to watch what you are recording while you are filming with GoPro 12 and the app. This is not possibly with 11 to 8 I think. Right? Or does the GoPro lab firmware fix this?
After I installed gopro labs, the image quality dropped drastically. You can do a test to convince yourself, especially when the light goes down slightly! Same settings !
I have been using GoPro labs for a long time and have never had any problems. Unfortunately, I don't know why you have this problem. Maybe you should reset the camera to factory settings or contact GoPro support. Unfortunately, I can't help you with that.
There is no setting that enables hdr. And if there were such a setting, it would just be a simple "offsetting" of three shots with different exposures. Real hdr can only be created by very special post-processing on a professional hdr screen.
You're comparing internet speed to the bitrate needed to record clips! An absolutely ridiculous comparison. 200 Mbps is actually quite low when compared to a Cinema camera for example. The more data you record per second, the more details you can see in the footage. If you were recording at 20, the footage probably wouldn't be usable.
Please do not download this, especially to the 12. I ruined mine because of it, and it’s not focusing right at all, and it glitches terribly. I am returning it for a replacement.
We own both gp11 and gp12 and we added Bitrate to 190, WIDE 1, Logb 800, histogram on, NR01 and having a ton of problems… glitching, overheating, camera stops recording mid record. Camera stopping mid record is the big one for us. Need it to work for jobs 😡
@@tadashimedia I'm sorry to hear that. It's really strange how some people have problems with their GoPro and some don't at all. For example, I once used the GoPro 11 for an hour with the same settings as you and everything worked fine. I think for longer shots than 30 seconds or so, you need constant airflow so that the camera doesn't overheat. Otherwise you could set the GoPro to 150 Mbps to perhaps prevent these problems. I hope you get these problems under control.
Great stuff 👏 I love what GoPro Labs are doing. I use 200mpbs and turned off the noise reduction and that already made a huge difference. I want to use the wide color more but I'm having trouble with color grading that footage in Premiere Pro, I can't seem to get nice vibrant colors afterwards 🤔
Thank you. Yes that's right! I work with the Qualifier in DaVinci Resolve. Without this tool it would often be difficult to get the maximum "color depth". In my opinion, the maximum result can be achieved in combination with the hdr color wheels.
@@davidsilberhornwould treating the wide gamut as HLG footage work? I’m yet to try this out, but it seems to be what you are doing.
@@boofandbloke Yes, that is possible in principle. I personally prefer to work in HDR10 or in Dolby Vision: vimeo.com/davidsilberhorn
How and why do you turn off the noice reduction?
@@M0LLER75 You need to install the GoPro Labs firmware in order to be able to turn off the noise reduction and it only works for GoPro 11 and 12. The automatic noise reduction leaves you with a really soft image especially on higher ISO, you lose all the details. If you turn it off, you'll get a really noisy image but it's very fine grain, it basically retains the details even on higher ISO. Using noise reduction in post you can achieve much better results. Before this i never went over 400iso...now i can go up to 1600 if necessary and i can still get usable footage. It makes the GoPro more usable in low light situations. Yes it's extra work in post but it's totally worth it.
Great video, thank you. Are you going to get the GoPro12? Your videos are already amazing on the GoPro 11 and I am guessing the new log profile isnt going to be any different than the GoPro Labs adjustments. The log on the 12 is the main reason why I would want to get it, but I am wondering if I should just save myself $100 and opt for the GoPro 11.
Thank you! I'm honestly a little disappointed with the GoPro 12, as I would have expected either a larger sensor or higher resolution. Actually the GoPro 12 has hardly any improvements compared to the GoPro 11. Also GoPro-Log doesn't interest me, because I can already set a very flat image profile with GoPro Labs, which you also wrote. Also the hdr mode is completely unusable for me. The price difference is 50 dollars. For 50 dollars you already get 2 additional batteries for the GoPro 11. By the way, I think that the dji Action 4 is also not so good, because then I can not set 200 Mbps. The only advantage is the slightly larger sensor. I would recommend to buy the GoPro 11.
Thanks David, I appreciate your advice! Another tutorial on your Davinci Resolve magic would be awesome@@davidsilberhorn
I have a GoPro color grading tutorial on my channel.
Thanks this is great to know. What about horizon lock shold I have it on or do it in post? And what about GoPro 12 should I use the same settings as GoPro 11?
I've never used Horizon lock, but I would set the setting in the GoPro to on. I don't have a GoPro 12 and am rather disappointed with what the camera offers compared to the GoPro 11. If I had a GoPro 12, I would probably use the same settings. What you should test, however, is the combination of the new GP-Log profile and the GoPro Labs profile. In principle, it's not a bad thing if the camera has an extremely desaturated profile, but it could be difficult to get a high-contrast and colorful image in the editing program.
I use hero 11 on fpv drone, and I can't tell the difference between 120mbs nd 200mbs after rendering and uploading video somewhere, only major difference is in file sizes, that's why i switched back to 120 from 200 after few weeks of filming. Also WIDE=1 and locked white balance are important.
Sounds interesting, but with my GoPro I almost always see a difference between 120 Mbps and 200 Mbps. Even when I use the camera on a toboggan run, for example, I still see a difference. Maybe that's because I'm upscaling the resolution so my video isn't compressed as much. Yes, Wide=1 is definitely important, provided you want to color grade the footage. Thanks for your comment!
@@davidsilberhorn well, the bitrate helps when there's alot of moving particles in the frame, but really, who is switching to 8K on UA-cam when watching some clip from action camera 😅 Also I'm shooting at 30fps most times, there's basically no extra detail due to the optics with 2x bitrate... with higher fps, the bitrate definitely helps. Here's small sample ua-cam.com/video/K1uZsMKFc38/v-deo.html
Hmm I installed GoPro lab on my 11 and 12 camera and it not possible to view the footage from the camera. It’s says no files on SD card
The file size of the individual clips is probably too large and can no longer be viewed directly via the GoPro. However, if you move the clips to a PC, you can certainly play them back or at least edit them in a software program. Incidentally, you can set the maximum file size per clip in the GoPro lab settings. This allows the camera to play back all clips directly via the GoPro. I hope this solves the problem?
@@davidsilberhorn okay the Clips are only some seconds…hope they are recorded.
I have checked now, the files was on the SD card even though both in the camera and app said there where no files recorded on the micro sd card, and I could not play them back. Have you not experienced the same? Could this have something to do with my settings in 200?
@@M0LLER75 Unfortunately, I have never had such a problem with my GoPro 11. I can only recommend that you download the free version of DaVinci Resoolve or another editing program to try again. If that doesn't solve the problem, you could turn off the "permanent" checkbox in labs and scan the code again. Otherwise I would try to contact GoPro support as I don't have any other suggestions.
do you have to do this for every single preset or does it apply to all
The GoPro Labs settings are applied to all GoPro presets. If you want to change the settings quickly and easily, I would recommend creating one or more printed GoPro Labs QR codes, which can then be held in front of the camera at any time. By the way, this also works underwater and is very helpful because the touch screen does not work underwater.
Dizęki. Super tutorial
Thank you very much
If I install GoPro labs will the Quick app work as usually? And if I do change in the app how will that effect changes in GoPro labs? And will I still get a message from the Quick app when new firmware is available?
Unfortunately, I can't help you at all with these questions because I have never used this app. Sorry.
I've used my GoPro 11 to record 5.3K 200Mbit video or a long time, now, it refuses to do so. When I record, it stops recording after 46 seconds and when trying with a brand new MicroSD card the exact same issue persists.
I don't know if the GoPro somehow has become less performant, but when lowering to 150Mbit, it works.
Are you really using a sandisk extreme pro? Otherwise, could you set the bit rate to non-permanent? Maybe the GoPro support can help. Sorry I don't have a solution.
i love it, thnk you
what about the other settings? you only showed two but your footage looks amazing
Thank you very much! In the video I show the three most important settings in GoPro Labs: maximum bitrate, flat image profile and an improvement of the flat image profile. The other settings in GoPro Labs are not important and I don't use them. I would be very happy about a subscription, have a nice day.
Will it work on my old gopro? hero7 black. thank you.
Sorry for the late reply. GoPro Labs also supports the GoPro hero 7, I don't think the camera can record in 180 Mbps. The other features should be possible, such as the flat image profile...
I have gopro hero 10 black edition, is this video applicable for GoPro 10?
GoPro Labs can definitely be used on the GoPro 10. I also found a note on the internet that says you can increase the bitrate of the GoPro 10 to 200 Mbps. So everything should work as in my tutorial.
@@davidsilberhorn - Thank you so much
any plans of purchasing a gopro 12 and comparing both?
I will definitely not buy the GoPro 12, because the camera offers virtually no significant improvements compared to the GoPro 11. The cameras are actually completely the same. The HDR mode is not really HDR. The new log profile is not important because GoPro Labs offers exactly the same. I actually expected a larger sensor or higher resolution.
@@davidsilberhorn i really like the possibility to watch what you are recording while you are filming with GoPro 12 and the app. This is not possibly with 11 to 8 I think. Right? Or does the GoPro lab firmware fix this?
@@M0LLER75 I've never used this app before, so I don't know if this is possible with the GoPro 8 to 11. And I don't think GoPro labs can fix it.
Does a higher bitrate help reducing digital noise/grain ?
I don't think so.
Yo debo scanear el QR cada vez que enciendo la camara ? O estos quedan grabados con solo escanear una sola vez?
Once you have scanned the QR code, the setting remains until it is changed again by another scan.
After I installed gopro labs, the image quality dropped drastically. You can do a test to convince yourself, especially when the light goes down slightly! Same settings !
I have been using GoPro labs for a long time and have never had any problems. Unfortunately, I don't know why you have this problem. Maybe you should reset the camera to factory settings or contact GoPro support. Unfortunately, I can't help you with that.
oh looks nice on oled!
Thank you very much!
But where do i set the hdr function?
There is no setting that enables hdr. And if there were such a setting, it would just be a simple "offsetting" of three shots with different exposures. Real hdr can only be created by very special post-processing on a professional hdr screen.
@@davidsilberhorn so all i do is set the camera to 10 bit and Birt to 200mps?
what does permanent bitrate do?
The camera then always records at a continuous bitrate.
Thank you
You're welcome
Hi. I did everything as in the video and after scanning the QR code I get the message invalid QR code. GoPro 12
Hi. Maybe you need to reinstall the firmware. Unfortunately I do not know. I do not have a GoPro 12.
Why is 200 Mbit better than 120? 4k streaming services like Netflix only use 20 or less.
You're comparing internet speed to the bitrate needed to record clips! An absolutely ridiculous comparison. 200 Mbps is actually quite low when compared to a Cinema camera for example. The more data you record per second, the more details you can see in the footage. If you were recording at 20, the footage probably wouldn't be usable.
thats why netflix looks like garbage, they use 20 because they have to cater to the millions who have slow internet speed.
In my opinion, the movies and series on netflix look very good! Especially in 4K HDR or Dolby Vision....
Please do not download this, especially to the 12. I ruined mine because of it, and it’s not focusing right at all, and it glitches terribly. I am returning it for a replacement.
Perhaps another reason not to buy a GoPro 12. I never had any problems with the GoPro 11 and the 11 is just as good as the GoPro 12.
We own both gp11 and gp12 and we added Bitrate to 190, WIDE 1, Logb 800, histogram on, NR01 and having a ton of problems… glitching, overheating, camera stops recording mid record. Camera stopping mid record is the big one for us. Need it to work for jobs 😡
@@tadashimedia I'm sorry to hear that. It's really strange how some people have problems with their GoPro and some don't at all. For example, I once used the GoPro 11 for an hour with the same settings as you and everything worked fine. I think for longer shots than 30 seconds or so, you need constant airflow so that the camera doesn't overheat. Otherwise you could set the GoPro to 150 Mbps to perhaps prevent these problems. I hope you get these problems under control.