GoPro Jitter & Ghosting? In-Depth WHY It Happens & HOW TO PREVENT IT
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Have you ever experienced jitter and ghosting with your GoPro footage? If so, then you understand how frustrating and sad this can be as this usually results in that GoPro footage being unusable.
In this video I provide an in-depth explanation as to why this happens and, most importantly, I provide the solutions you need in order to prevent this jitter and ghosting from happening with your GoPro.
GoPro Labs Firmware is available here: gopro.github.io/labs/
GoPro Maximum Shutter Angle configuration link: gopro.github.io/labs/control/...
Table of Contents:
0:00 - Introduction
0:41 - In-depth explanation of WHY this happens
5:48 - Let's talk about solutions
6:08 - Solution #1 (Not a bad solution, but not ideal)
7:18: - Solution #2 Overview (The best solution)
9:04 - My partner for today's video
11:08 - Solution #2 (Step 1 of 2)
13:31 - Solution #2 (Step 2 of 2)
16:53 - Sample Clips using Solution #2 on a dark day
18:41 - Conclusion
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For ease of referencing and setting up the maximum shutter angles, this is the recommended max shutter angle/stop conversion math relative to the frame rate you are using. These QR codes can be created here: gopro.github.io/labs/control/maxshut/
▶24FPS or 30FPS use a 45° max shutter angle (this is 3 stops)
▶60FPS use a 90° max shutter angle (this is 2 stops)
▶120FPS use a 180° max shutter angle (this is 1 stop)
Great & Thanks. I’m still learning video. Do you have a recommended resource to read about what the shutter angles represent, what “stops” are, and the math involved? I’d like to better understand.
How did you create the reset code, and does the reset code only reset the shutter speed or does it clear all Lab settings?
Great questions. I created the reset code by putting the max shutter angle back to the GoPro default which is a max shutter angle of 360 degrees. Yes scanning the reset code will only reset the max shutter angle code and not any others.
Thanks, what if we are running it at 50FPS?
I would recommend a maximum shutter angle of 90 degrees. That would equate to a shutter speed of 1/200 or faster which should ensure Hypersmooth does not create issues.
Hallelujah! I've been battling this for several years! I'm a backpacker and am in and out of the dark woods and this is the one thing that has given me terrible grief. Thank you for showing this!
Yes I can totally relate to this! Before I figured it out I ruined some footage that I was really looking forward to having. Figuring this out has made my footage so much better in the forest.
How well did this work?
Thanks! Your videos are always so in depth. Great explanations and very helpful! Subscribed!
Thank you! I really appreciate your feedback and support!
Oh wow! Great job! I have recently been wild camping and I had exactly the same problems. Thanks so much for your efforts! Brilliant! 🙂
bro, i have been stressing about this for the last two weeks. thank you.
You’re welcome!
This is the best explanation video so far. Saved it.
Thank you and I’m glad you found this helpful.
Great video! I was watching another UA-cam video about this ghosting problem, and that video referenced your video, so I checked it out. Not only do you tell us HOW to get the Labs features, but you explain WHY we need them. I'm a new GoPro owner, got my Hero 11 for Christmas 2023 as a Costco bundle. I used it in January at a restaurant and got ghosting despite having hypersmooth turned on. Searching for ideas on how to prevent ghosting, I eventually found out about GoPro Labs. Your instructions were so easy to follow, that I felt satisfied just to get the software downloaded and installed. It wasn't until a week later that I decided to try the recommended setting, and I couldn't believe how easy it was! Just point the GoPro at the QR code on the screen!!! Wow, THAT is EASY! And now I get no ghosting, especially outdoors going from sun to shade. Thanks for a great, detailed tutorial.
Good info, good explanation! Thank you😊
I really appreciate it!
I'm very thankful for this video. And after applying the firmware update as suggested ( I used 60FPS use a 90° max shutter angle (this is 2 stops)), the recordings of my recent family trip to Goa was absolutely superb !!!
Excellent, I’m glad to hear this was helpful and that your footage came out well!
Great explanation and solution.
Thank you and I appreciate your feedback.
Excellent video, thank you very much for share your knowledge. It will be very helpful
I appreciate it.
Awesome. At last a complex subject explained and solved
Thank you.
Excellent presentation as always, thank you, I have purchased a Gimbal last week just not got round to learning how to use it yet as im still learning the GoPro....
Thank you! Gimbals do take a bit of practice and learning but once you’re familiar with it it’s a great tool.
awesome explanation & guide... just love love love how you have taken this super difficult stuff and explained it so easily and pragmatically. I've been struggling with this so much (Scotland is not the brightest of places outside of summer) and have found it quite hard to understand the solution. Thanks so much!
You’re welcome and I really appreciate your comment! I can relate to living in a higher northern latitude and cloudy climate much of the year for a time so I know what you mean.
@@GreatDayForAHike I tried this now for mountain biking yesterday and indeed the results are remarkable. It was so dark that I would normally not bother filming, and yet I go exceptionally good quality footage using this!
@Chris_Knopf This is great to hear! Yes, it can make a big difference. Before I applied these settings I lost many good clips while hiking in darker forests. After applying these settings my footage was dependably good even in dark forests.
I did this on my GoPro 11 and it looked terrible … close to unusable footage. Had to reset my camera and start fresh.
Not sure if I didn’t it wrong, but the footage had so many shadows in low light and overexposed on the sun
Thanks. Very helpful!
You’re welcome and thanks for your feedback!
Thanks for sharing, I will try this!
You’re welcome!
Spent a lot of time in settings trying to figure it out and I almost got rid of it. Then I found your video and it worked.
Thanks for your feedback and I’m glad this video was helpful to you.
Wow! Timely! I had this happen a couple of days ago when moving through an enclosed space and the footage was terrible. I'm definitely try this out. I'll watch the video a few more times though, to make sure I get the process right. Many thanks!
Excellent! You’re welcome! I got to put this into practice once again today when I did a hike in some really low lighting, including through an old train tunnel that was nearly a mile long. I’ll plan to share this adventure on the channel so you can see this max shutter angle setting in action there too.
@@GreatDayForAHike look forward to it!
Excellent video
Thank tou
You got my attention. Keep it up
Thank you.
Well Said! Thank you...
Thanks!
Thank You so much just installed the update
You’re welcome. Enjoy.
How well is it working!?
Good information
Thank you.
Love the results, but do you mind posting all the settings that you used?
Also, I'm still learning all the fps and related degrees. I couldnt find a complete list for the different degrees and its related fps.
Thank you!
Very well explained, thanks so much for this knowledge bomb! Got it installed, can't wait to shoot some footage in the forest tomorrow!✌
Question: I sometimes have an issue with light in the forest causing blue flashes, I tried ND filters without any luck. A hood might help solve it, any suggestions?
Thank you so much for this very helpful tutorial!
I would like to ask you in reference to the 'Maximum Shutter Angle': keeping the sensitivity at 1600 ISO, if for a video at 30 fps you suggest to set a Maximum Shutter Angle of 45°, for a video at 60 fps and one at 120 fps what values should I use? I didn't quite understand, you're talking about stops in your tutorial...but translated into degrees on the GoPro Labs conversion page you linked to, how many would that correspond to?
Thank you if you can help me.
This is the first place I have seen this explained and with an actual solution/workaround.
Thanks for this!
So if I want to shoot in 50FPS or 60FPS I would still just use the 45degree ?
i run with the cam head mounted... this was the best thing that came out of GoPro since the Labs released... id rather have the grain/noise and a closer to real-life lighting of the scene (if its dark, no need to turn it into day time), than have a completely unuseable footage that are a headache to watch on a big TV
Absolutely agree. This is a perfect example of the value of this max shutter angle QR code.
Thank you, this is very good. I wonder if you did additional settings or editing? I noticed on my end, my 4k video looked more like HD, not as good as yours for some reason.
Thank you. I filmed in 5.3K and exported as 4K. That would give a bit of a resolution boost.
You’ll want to make sure you have high bitrate turned on, on your GoPro. This will ensure it records the highest quality footage.
thank you
👀
You’re welcome
Thank you so much. I wanted to throw my Gopro11 in the bin.
I'm amazed though that Gopro doesn't do this automatically.... ah well... (Maybe that's why lots flip over to DJI Action 4 cause it seems to be the default of no ghosting)
For me the best solution was to get a gimbal, turn hypersmooth off and stabilize using reelsteady :) This way i have an even greater field of view, and don't have so much noise or dark footage because don't have to limit shutter speed. But of course it makes the whole set up a big bigger. For me it isn't' a problem though :) But for people who just want to use the gopro with hypersmooth this is a must (limiting shutter speed), and something that should have been incorporated into the normal Gopro firmware long ago!
Absolutely. I hope to see GoPro incorporate this as an option in the video menu. Maybe as soon as on the Hero 12. This option could have a simple label such as “Low Light Anti-Jitter” (ok, a bit lengthy of a label 😂) and be located on either the shutter speed or Hypersmooth menu options.
Yes, I find myself using both Solution 1 and Solution 2 depending upon the situation and scenario. It usually comes down to two questions: 1) Am I using ND filters or in really low light? If so then solution 1 is best. 2) How many miles will I need to carry this equipment?
Thanks for your feedback!
In more recent Labs firmware, you can directly set a minimum and maximum shutter speed (this sets limits on the Auto exposure.) EXPX directly set the maximum shutter speed, constant speed, variable angle for change frame rates. So if you did !MEXPX=250, you would have 1/250th of second for a maximum exposure time, but still otherwise full auto for all frame rates. Whereas EXPT sets a maximum shutter angle, the angle constant for change frame rates, but it alters the shutter.
Thanks for sharing. This is super helpful information.
Hi Buddy had the labs on me old gp 7 amazing stuff i have just learned about he use of the Quick Start option great for the Mtb Adventures very easy on a big day out My Question is does the gopro work in the same way with Quick start option on with the labs downloaded on to the cam thanks
It does look much better with those settings applied, I didn't fully understand why it is stated as 360 or 45 degree for the shutter speed
Great! Yes, those shutter angles are videography terms that are used to define the shutter speed relative to the frame rate. They are a bit confusing and take a while to understand.
Tnx 🤝
You’re welcome
Thank you so much for this video.... can you give me a hint on using ND filter after this setup
You’re welcome. So if you want to use ND filters for video you’ll likely want to remove the shutter speed max limit as you’ll likely want to use those filters for a slower shutter speed for that motion blur. If you’re using the ND filters for photos or time lapses you won’t need to make any adjustments as the shutter angle only applies to video mode.
Thanks again for this great video! In protunes I had my Max ISO set to 800 in my original Standard setting. Do have to change that now to 1600? Thank you!
You’re welcome! If you set the QR code to have a max ISO of 1600 that will override your settings. I do recommend a Max of 1600 when using the QR code since the GoPro may need to boost ISO in low light settings due to a slower shutter speed not being an option to allow more light.
I was thinking about it! if i want to use fitel 16 nd filter is this program suitable
I’m a bit of a minimalist. I think gimbals are too big for travel. I like to travel with just a carryon and slingbag for a personal. But I’ll try downloading the software.
Great video. Wouldn’t manually setting a shutter speed and letting Auto ISO work?
I’ve been wanting to know that as well. I have mine currently at min 100 max 400 and shutter on auto 🤔
manual updates and scanning qr codes like any of that will work!! those things barely works on my phone lol
I use Labs and QR codes almost every time I use my GoPro. Once the initial setup is done it’s pretty straightforward after that. You just need a means of displaying the QR code for the GoPro to scan it and read it. Doesn’t even have to be on a screen. The QR code could be printed on a piece of paper.
i have the issue with going from outside where there is good light to inside (for example a supermarket) i get a lot noise, do you have settings that give no noise in the footage?
Another informative video 👍. Would the manual settings( option 2) you advised work on the Action 3. I dont suppose there's a way to get the option of the app download on the Action 3 is there?
Thank you. Unfortunately, the Osmo Action 3 does not allow for the same level of control and fine-tuning and these specific options will only work on the GoPro.
@@GreatDayForAHike Ok thanks👍
Grateful for the help. Will this have any negative effect on slow motion mode?
It will not have any negative effect.
@@GreatDayForAHike thanks alot
I got this installed and looks to be working well. Does this just work for auto shutter?
If I set the manual shutter to 1/30, will it override the mod? There's one situation where I need to override.
📌I have recently started using 'GoPro Labs' and I have two questions: At Min. 15:02, when you suggest setting it to '2 stops' (for 60 FPS) or '1 stop' (for 120 FPS) and then creating two QR codes for these new FPS values, how should I set the 'SHUTTER Angle' if I had set it to 45 degrees for 30 FPS...? Do I need to modify this value and how? Or is it another value that I need to change for 60 FPS or 120 FPS? Unfortunately, I haven't understood this yet! 🤔😭
do you think this method works with road cycling when there is a lot of bump on the road?
Great videos! Will this work on a gopro 9? Thanks!
Thank you! Yes, you should be able to install the GoPro Labs firmware for the Hero 9 and then run this QR code.
So I'm running 4k at 25fps, Do I just leave the shutter in Auto and the Labs setting will stop if from going too low? or do I need to adjust something else in protune?
Helo , i cant view media in my gopro quick, always force close , why ? Thank u
Great video, thanx. 45 or 90 is it a big difference?
Thanks. Yes, this does make a big difference with the lower you go in FPS. For example, at 24 FPS, a maximum shutter angle of 90 is a shutter speed that can go all the way down to 1/96, whereas a maximum shutter angle of 45 is a shutter speed that can only go down to 1/192. If the shutter speed dips to 1/96 there will be ghosting and jitter, but at 1/192 the stabilization should be good enough to prevent nearly all ghosting and jittery.
If you're filming in 60 FPS on the other hand, you would be okay using a maximum shutter angle of 90 as this would be a shutter speed that can only go as slow as 1/240 and this would ensure good stabilization without ghosting or jittery.
Super video. Thanks = much better in low light now. Don’t see the reset QR code listed on GoPro Labs page - am i missing it?
Thank you and great question. So the code that I shared as the “reset” for the maximum shutter angle is also the same as if you were to set the shutter angle to 360 degrees (the default setting on a GoPro). So for ease of sharing that I set it and labeled it reset but the 360 degrees setting is the same as what I labeled reset. Thanks!
@@GreatDayForAHike Saw that on the QR code options as default. So selecting both defaults, gets you back to normal. Thanks so much
Exactly. You’re welcome!
Another great/informative video on a very important topic. I must admit, I've been too chicken to install the GoPro Labs firmware update. Couldn't you accomplish the same thing by just raising the minimum ISO to something like 800 ISO or higher? That would force the shutter speed to be faster. Right? It's too bad that while your filming the Hero 11 doesn't show what Shutter Speed and ISO it is choosing. You would think that would be an easy thing to add. They could put it on the shortcuts so you could easily turn it on/off.
Thank you and this is a great question. To some degree yes, you could do that. I have tried that before and had some success. The main problem I ran into with that method was I didn’t know when the shutter speed had dipped again too low that it was creating jitter without me being aware. It also meant I had to use a higher ISO than wanted at time where the camera could have had a lower ISO. Yes, it would be nice to have the live values able to seen.
@@GreatDayForAHike Thanks for the detailed reply. You have now pushed me to give GoPro Labs a try. 🙂
I’ve used a few other features under the Labs firmware and have really like those. Even if I don’t run features of it all the time it’s nice to have those features available to tap into at a short notice.
@@GreatDayForAHike You need to make a video about that! 1) How to quickly search for the various QR code settings options. 2) How to do it on your phone vs the web. I know I would be interested in learning that. But I'll admit, I'm being lazy. 😛
Or, you’re “working smarter, not harder” 😃 That is how I view learning how to do things like this quicker and more efficiently.
Great and informative video. A couple of questions, firstly, does this affect warranty in any way? Secondly, I am not clear how you would change between angles in the field when wanting to choose higher frame rates... I shoot almost everything in 60 or 120 (GP10).... I would have liked to see a visual demonstration of the process you described so well....
Great questions. For the first one I asked GoPro about this in the past and GoPro said this does not affect the warranty due to this being an official GoPro firmware that is maintained by GoPro.
For changing between max shutter angles in the field I simply keep a copy of the 3 stop (45 degrees), 2 stop (90 degrees), and 1 stop (180 degrees) QR codes on my phone so that I can easily bring them up and scan them with my GoPro. This has worked well for me.
@@GreatDayForAHike Thanks. I went ahead and did the firmware change, and have done some testing, I do note now when I look at the shutter speed (using QR Control as my source) is blank on the cam... is that wrong? I have manually changed it to 1/240 or 1/120 as per my frame rates... any thoughts?
The changes applied by the QR code will override the settings you see in the video preset menus. You can leave the shutter set to auto in your video presets and then apply the QR code and it will override these but it will not show the override since it doesn’t have a way to do this in the menus. However when you power on the camera it will tell you if/which QR codes are applied. It will say EXPT=3 when you power on the GoPro (or EXPT=2 if you’re using 2 stops).
@@GreatDayForAHike Perfect... thanks. I see a bit more noise indoors in the darker areas, but the jitter is gone. Thanks for sharing this info with us. Take care.
You’re welcome!
Will these settings after scanning QR code take effect in any profile set on the camera?
I would like to create only one profile with these shutter angel and ISO settings.
I want to buy a gp12 and am interested in this option with low light. Thanks.
Great question. These will apply to all presets on the GoPro in the video mode only. There is not a way to have these only apply to distinct presets in the video mode. These will apply universally in the video mode.
Thank you for this great explanation! Sorry my english is not the best. Can i change the FPS between 30 and 24 withouth problems with this settings? Is it possible to let this settings always on, so can i use it in normal daylight situations? Regards from Austria
You’re welcome and great question! Yes, you can toggle between 24 and 30 FPS and don’t have to do any other setting changes for this to work. The setting will remain always on even in normal daylight until you do the reset code or apply a different max shutter angle code. Thanks’
@@GreatDayForAHike thank you its great 👌
Great!
In QR code for Android, i cant find the setting "make this setting survive a power off" also i found that auto shutter angle is better in low light than auto shutter speed, do you have any experience in this?
I have applied your code on my GoPro Hero 10 but I notice that at the end of the recording there are some stripes that go from top to bottom when I am under white light, any solution?
Sorry, I realized that instead of iso max 1600 I had placed iso max 800, now it is noticeable but very little, it is still noticeable, it is very little. Thank you very much for your video now I will be able to record better
I tried this on GoPro 10 but I noticed that in dark indoor setting the camera bumps the ISO all the way up to the limit and there also seems to be some kind of pulsing, flickiering noise in addition to the standard grain. What could be the reason? I had to set the ISO much lower (400 max), otherwise the footage turns into a crushed, smeary, pulsing mess.
I'm confused about when shooting at 60 fps. You say set it to 2 stops instead of 3 stops. Where are these stops changed???? On the QR code webpage? If so, do I move the Maximum Shuttle Angle from 45 degrees to 90 degrees, which would be the correct stop? Thanks.
That is correct. For 60FPS set the max shutter angle to 90 degrees (2 stops) on the QR code page. For 1 stop (if filming in 120fps) set the max shutter angle to 180 degrees. I’ll list these out in a pinned comment on this video for ease of referencing. Thanks!
Thanks for the video! One question - after I scan the QR code to set my GoPro to a 45° shutter angle for when I am in low light, what should I do if I am later going to be recording in a more well lit or sunny area? Would I then scan the QR reset code so that my presets get restored to their usual shutter angle? Thanks again!
That’s exactly right. Yes, if you want to reset the max shutter angle to the default you would just need to scan the QR reset code I feature in this video. Thanks!
you don't need to do anything, it only limits how slow the shutter speed can go, when it's sunny the shutter speed will automatically adjust to something like 1/1000.
I have a Hero 7 and I notice when changing.... the cam will beep on the QR code but it doesn't always change without a nudge. Turning the cam off/on makes it change, sometimes rotating between photo and video changes it. If you take a video it will be what the screen showed in brightness. I switched between ISO 100 and 3200 in tandem with angle 360 to 22.5 to make sure the I could notice a change. To be sure on the more subtle changes, I will have to set it several times to make sure I got what I scanned I figure. Ever heard of this?
I do recall experiencing this a bit with the GoPro Labs firmware on an older GoPro model. I think what I did was reinstall the Labs firmware and/or did a full reset and then reinstalled it. That seemed to help at the time.
Dose this save to the presets individually & change when changing preset?
Great question. It does not. These QR codes will run in the background in the mode(s) they are applicable to. For instance, if one QR code applies to the video mode then that setting will apply in the video mode regardless of preset.
This is really helpful thank you. Two questions. So, with using a ND filter and a gimble you do not do the GoPro labs firmware correct? It’s one or the other right? Also when I shoot in 60FPS going around curves it’s like the footage does a hard pan not fluent. I guess that’s considered choppy? It’s like the footage slides left or right but in slight increments. Any idea what causes that?
Great questions! That is correct, if you're using an ND filter and a gimbal combined with Hypersmooth turned off you do not need to do the GoPro Labs firmware option.
That almost sounds like rolling shutter you are describing. This can be an issue on a lot of cameras, even higher-end cameras if panning motion is too rapid.
@@GreatDayForAHike I’ll look into that thanks! My gimbal arrives today Im hoping that will help.
@@GreatDayForAHike Gimbal did not work for my application so I’m going to apply GoPro lab. Does this add this universally or does this become an option just for just the mod?
GoPro labs enables you to run a bunch it different possible features but those features are only unlocked when you apply a specific QR code such as the one I discuss in this video
I have scanned 3 Stops 45 degree shutter angles QR code, my shutter speed is in AUTO, my question is do I have to adjust and set shutter speed to 1/240 ? Please reply 🙏
Once you have scanned the QR code it will override the respective setting in the menu. In this case you can keep shutter speed set to Auto and the QR code will automatically override this even though you won’t see the actual setting in the menu. It will show when you power on the GoPro though briefly in text across the screen.
Is the reset QR code you provided to revert only the Max Shutter Angle setting or to completely reset all Labs changes? Thanks
Just the max shutter angle setting. It will reset that setting only to the GoPro default.
@@GreatDayForAHike Thanks! Happen to know how to undo the others if needed? I don’t recall if they gave the defaults for the others.
Great question. Some of the others have defaults that can be used to reset the specific functions. If you have a lot of them programmed and want to clear them all a factory reset will do this as well but that will also wipe out any presets you have saved.
so i can't use nd filters ??
I really want to put GoPro labs into my GoPro 12, but I use my GoPro 12 every day for family videos and I’m really concerned that I’m gonna damage the GoPro somehow or void the warranty. Is there any chance of harming something? I know that’s probably a silly question, but I’m just curious. I trust you!
GoPro Labs is an official GoPro firmware and GoPro has stated this does not void or affect the warranty. You should be all good. I’ve used it for several years now and not had any issues caused by it.
gopro.com/en/us/info/gopro-labs
what if use Gopro mounted on FPV drone and want to have motion blur but eliminate ghosting and jitter from micro vibrations. What it can be done ?
For that type of scenario I recommend turning off Hypersmooth and then stabilizing the footage using ReelSteady or Gyroflow afterwards.
The video is great!
But generaly: It is strange for me that we talk about angles at a shutter speed, and then we have to make a small math. To devide 360 with this angle number and than the result must multiplied by the framerate... Why not simply 2x framerate, 4x framerate? Why is this useless angle and calculation is created? It is like instead of I would say: Turn right, I would say three times go 90 degrees to your left...
Yes, I get what you’re saying. Shutter angle math takes a bit of getting used to and yeah it’s not the easiest to calculate.
Yes, basically you have to set the shutter speed around 1/200th of a second to get rid off the jitter and ghosting. Thanks for the video, I'll try it.
Mint Mobile looks interesting and promising, but... it's North America only. Greetings from the rest of the world =)
😂 Valid point.
Thanks for the info! But please use a de-esser. Haha.
Yup, I’ve improved my audio setup a good bit since this video was filmed.
How many stops would you use for 240 FPS?
I would do 1 stop for a shutter speed of 1/480.
I use labs so familiar with how it works. Love the LogB. Anyway when I set the angle it does not change going into different lighting situations. For example at 24 fps at a 45 angle it just stays at 1/192. I got the impression from your discussion that this should change. What do you think?
If you use the maximum shutter angle QR code this should establish the slowest shutter speed allowed relative to fps. So 1/192 is the slowest the camera would be allowed to go at a 45 degree angle but it would be allowed to do a faster shutter speed such as 1/240, 1/480 etc.
If you go into really bright light the shutter speed should jump to a faster speed.
@@GreatDayForAHike That is just it, I went from inside to outside in bright lights. The shutter speed did not change and the shots were over exposed.
Is your shutter speed in that preset set to Auto?
@@GreatDayForAHike not sure what you mean. It is 1/192. IF I set the QR code to the angle of auto then it works fine but inside it drops down to 1/30. I have the ISO and Shutter Speed displayed on the screen (EXPS). So sorry if I am mis interrupting.
Hi, I installed the Go Pro Labs software per your instructions but need to remove it now in order to sell my Go Pro 8 and doing a manual install of the latest firmware does not remove the Go Pro Labs software. What can I do?
@@GreatDayForAHike Hi, how do I do that? I pressed reset on the Go Pro and Go Pro Labs still shows on the screen when I turn it on.
@@GreatDayForAHike Do you mean to do a factory reset under Preferences and then to do a manual reload of the Go Pro firmware from the Go Pro website?
@DaciaProject Try the steps shown in this video for the manual firmware update and make sure it’s the standard firmware and not the Labs firmware. This should do it: ua-cam.com/video/M9S1hiE1LZY/v-deo.htmlsi=7fhOr0K5ZZUq1qev
@@GreatDayForAHike Thanks! I was making the mistake on a Mac of copying the Go Pro standard firmware onto my SD card without the Update Folder and it was not erasing Go Pro Labs. Finally I just got the Go Pro Labs erased after watching your firmware update video that mentioned including the Update Folder. Now I can sell this Go Pro 8! I am buying two DJI Action 4 Cams immediately. Go Pros have been a genuine nightmare. I've owned five of them since 2017. . . No! Just no!
@DaciaProject Great, glad you got it figured out. Hope you enjoy your Action 4 cameras. I own one and like it as well.
What if filming 60 fps what shutter would I use ?
I recommend 1/240. If you use 1/240 there won’t be as much motion blur but you will also be able to keep Hypersmooth on without the risk of jitter and ghosting.
This sounds a bit scary. Is there any downside to this? Will it void any warranty?
According to the GoPro website, the Labs firmware does not void any warranty.
GoPro Labs is an official GoPro firmware release. It is run by David Newman, who is one of GoPro's head engineers.
im filming 60fps, how to set for 2 stops???
You’ll want to set the max shutter angle to 90 degrees on the max shutter angle page and then scan that QR code.
I'm confused :( I can reproduce the same results with setting the shutter speed to 1/200 (at 25fps) - What difference does it make to use shutte angle instead of the shutter speed (which is there in the stock firmware)
You can set the shutter speed manually but if your light is changing (going into brighter or darker) your footage is going to be overexposed in brighter and underexposed in darker if you don’t have a variable shutter speed. Setting the max shutter angle allows the shutter speed to still auto-adjust but it limits how slow the speed can go relative to the fps setting.
@@GreatDayForAHike Oh, that makes sense, thanks for the explanation :) In that case I might want to use angle too I guess, at least I try it out :) Thanks!
You’re welcome!
I find in app we can set maximum shutter speed, not better to set this 1/200 than change this angle all the time ?
If you set the max shutter speed to 1/200 this means this is as high as the shutter speed will go which would allow for lower shutter speeds. What I demonstrate in this video outlines how to set a maximum shutter angle which is a minimum shutter speed relative to frame rate. It would be the opposite of the setting you mention if I am understanding what you are meaning correctly.
You also don’t have to change the angle all the time. Once this setting is applied the GoPro will do the work for you.
@@GreatDayForAHike wait ! read again here 13:47 you set MAXIMUM SHUTTER ANGLE not minimum. So when we talk about set MAXIMUM shutter speed it is the same, default maximum shutter speed in video for hero is 1/30s minimum is 1/8000. I try set gopro to set maximum shutter 120 and it work really good, and it will works in all frame rate, with shutter angle when we change to 45 than for 24fps will be maximum 1/192, but for 1/60 will be 1/480 it is too dark for cloudy day, this is not necessary for stabilization (not sacrificing too much iso)
If setting a static shutter speed works for you then great. I find a static shutter speed of 1/120 to be way too bright on sunny days.
I followed the steps and it override my costume settings. Set shutter to auto ev comp to 0, white balance back to auto, iso 100/1600, sharpness high, RAW audio off and mics auto.... Not sure if this is what's supposed to happen. I had my settings set differently from another video I saw. Any tips or ideas?
When using the QR codes it shouldn’t change the actual settings you see in the menus but the code you apply will be present running under the hood until you reset that code (if you select to have the code survive a restart of the camera).
Thank you for replying and in such short notice too!! I have a trip tomorrow so I will make sure to have my gopro set up properly now. Thank you again @@GreatDayForAHike
You’re welcome!
Sorry i'm new to photography, what is that "2 stops" means? Sorry again, thank u for those who will answer
Great question.
A “stop” is the unit of measurement for the amount of light that makes up the overall exposure as determined by any of the three values of the exposure triangle. These values include the shutter speed, ISO, and aperture.
Changing the shutter speed from 1/120 to 1/60, the ISO from 100 to 200, or the aperture from 11 to 8 are each an example of 1 stop adjustments to the exposure.
Changing a shutter speed from 1/240 to 1/60 would be an example of 2 stops of adjustment to the exposure.
@@GreatDayForAHike thank you for this specific answer, ☺️ appreciate it.
Man I wish stuff like this worked for me. Can't get the extracted files on to sd card. Any suggestions?
Does it give you any type of error when you try to copy the extracted files to the card? Also, are you copying the “UPDATE” folder to the card or just the files within it? You’ll want to make sure to copy the whole UPDATE folder. Let me know if you need any further assistance.
@@GreatDayForAHike Thanks for the reply. The sd card just won't accept the file. Yes it is the entire update file I am copying. Cannot paste it or drag and drop it. I was just going to call gopro and have them walk me through it. Filmed on a cloudy day today, and it looked jittery. Found your video when searching for an answer. And no, I am not getting any error messages. Thanks again.
@aloveoutreach If you have any files off the microSD card that you need I’d recommend formatting the microSD card and then trying to copy the Update folder again. Formatting will of course delete everything on the card so a backup is necessary first if there is any data on it. When I’ve had weird issues like this with my microSD cards formatting sometimes helps.
@@GreatDayForAHike I will give that a try. Thanks again!
@aloveoutreach You’re welcome
The stops got a bit too technical for a noob like myself.
Sorry about not better defining that.
A “stop” is the unit of measurement for the amount of light that makes up the overall exposure as determined by any of the three values of the exposure triangle. These values include the shutter speed, ISO, and aperture.
Example: You can increase your exposure by one stop by increasing your ISO from 100 to 200, your shutter speed from 1/60th to 1/30th, or aperture from 11 to 8. Each of these is an increase of one stop to the exposure, which will brighten your footage or image by letting in more light.
I suppose for those that have problems with jitter and ghosting this would be a viable solution. As for me and my GoPro 10, I've not experienced jitter or ghosting, yet. I hope I don't ever because your solution is kind of technical beyond my understanding.
If you’re not filming in low light such as in a dark forest or indoors while using Hypersmooth you’ll likely not experience this issue.
If you do ever experience and want to prevent it, this will solve that for you.
@@GreatDayForAHike I’ve saved this video just in case! Thanks a lot GDFAH!
You’re welcome!
why you don't mention lowering exposure as a solution? i know it looks darker, but it's a solution
Thank you ! i feel like im a hacker
You’re welcome! It does feel a bit like hacking.
Can we just scan the qr codes you have put up here to make the change
Yes, this should technically work once you have the Labs firmware installed.
@@GreatDayForAHike I'm still very noob with go pro so hope this helps 😁
@jgarner447 I hope this help you as well.
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You have to scan the QR code every time you restart the camera, is there any way to make it remember these settings?
Yes, if you check the permanent box before generating the code and then scan it, the code will remain after a restart of the camera.
WTF, It didn't work. I downloaded onto my micro SD. It did nothing. I tried to scan the QR code. It did nothing. Okay I had to download a free unzip app on my computer and copy and paste it exactly as illustrated. It finally worked. Scanning the QR code gave a red ✓ which I thought should be green. Confusing but the GoPro shows on screen it worked. Not easy!
The QR code won’t work unless you get the GoPro Labs Firmware installed successfully first. Did you copy the entire extracted “UPDATE” folder to your MicroSD card, insert the card into your GoPro and then power the GoPro on so the firmware will install?
This behavior is not acceptable. With the GoPro Hero 7 and 8 I have never had this problem. Your solution is a remedy to a bad design of the Hypersmooth developed by GOPRO. The action camera was created to be used above all by those who have no photographic knowledge and, I repeat, for me this is a problem never recognized by GOPRO.
This is not unique to the GoPro. All action cameras-and larger cameras-that use EIS (electronic image stabilization) will experience ghosting and jitter at slower shutter speeds. This is because EIS needs fast enough shutter speeds in order to function properly. Hypersmooth is a type of EIS, just like RockSteady is a type of EIS on DJI action cameras, FlowState is a type of EIS on Insta360 cameras, etc.
Understanding how EIS works and doesn’t work is important in order to mitigate the weaknesses of EIS.
wish i found this before watching jordan boostmaster's garbage.
Glad you found this helpful.
I wouldn't call them "unusable" but yeah they look a little bad!
That’s a fair point. I’ve been able to rescue some of this footage with careful editing but some of it I’ve had to save in my “Messed Up Footage” folder 😂
@@GreatDayForAHike they are not Hollywood standards but for some amator youtuber like me, they are decent! 😁
@@GreatDayForAHike hmm do i have ti keep the Shutter on Auto? Evrything looks very dark and i can't find a way to fix it...
If you scan the QR code this will override the shutter speed of Auto in the menu. I added a pinned comment for ease of reference for which setting to set the QR code to depending on frame rate to ensure the maximum shutter angle is fulfilled depending on frame rate.
Do a video on how to stop light bulb flickering on go pros, and dont say change to 50 or 60 fps cos doesnt work
1/240 max shutteer speed for a 60 fps footage, you are crazy. I am not gonna do that.
Simply providing a solution for those who want to avoid ghosting and jitter without using a gimbal. If ghosting and jitter doesn’t bother you or if you don’t film in low enough light for that to be a problem then you’re set.
Small sensor?? Why does everybody make excuses for gopro. My cellphone has a tiny camera and sensor. The video quality is vastly better than gopro. Go pro is supposed to be a dedicated camera that only has one job and that is to have good video. And an old webcam has way better quality and is often smaller. I haven't seen even 1080 from a gopro. They claim to have 4k and beyond and mine often looks like 640 x 480.
Relatively speaking, action cameras have some of the smallest camera sensors of any camera. Most action cameras also use electronic image stabilization. I see the job of the GoPro as being a camera that provides the ability to capture action in high-quality video. A GoPro does this well when used with the right settings. I expect most would not want to use their cellphone or webcam when participating in action sports. Which old webcam has way better quality than the GoPro? I want to know so I can buy one.
@@GreatDayForAHike My Microsoft webcam had better quality than a gopro and it's smaller. Do you know of any halfway decent gopro footage besides the gopro channel with their team of editing professionals? Ive been searching. When I pause any video it looks blurry and washed out. Looks like 640 x 480 and not even 1080. Yet they claim 4k and better
@adamr8628 Part of this is probably because of the bitrate that UA-cam compresses many videos to and/or when individuals have uploaded the footage it may have had a lower bitrate.
My most recent video with sample footage from a GoPro is here. This is from the Hero 12. If you view that video in 4K with the samples I think you’ll find the footage looks better than 1080p: ua-cam.com/video/BKraBoGjn0I/v-deo.htmlsi=Edoka_5q_DeASQkr
I know this is off topic but LogB 400 and using Leemings new LUT Pro III GoPro 11 - wide gamut log400.cube is great.
Yes, I love it that GoPro has QR codes that help expand dynamic range that can be brought out in the footage when grading it. Huge props to GoPro for this.