More Games of Paul Morphy, with GM Ben Finegold

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  • Опубліковано 3 лип 2023
  • Check out Ben's Chessable courses here! www.chessable.com/author/BenF... GM Ben Finegold discusses games of Paul Morphy. This lecture was recorded March 11, 2018 at CCSCATL in Roswell, Georgia.
    Games Discussed:
    Morphy, Paul vs. Le Carpentier, C
    New Orleans (1849)
    Morphy, Paul vs. Morphy, Alonzo
    New Orleans (1849)
    Mc Connell, James vs. Morphy, Paul
    New Orleans (1850)
    Morphy, Paul vs. NN
    New Orleans (1850)
    Morphy, Paul vs. Meek, Alexander Beaufort
    New York Blindfold (1857)
    Morphy, Paul vs. Schulten, John William
    New York Blindfold (1857)
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  • @infantiltinferno
    @infantiltinferno 8 місяців тому +25

    I won't stop until Ben has talked about every Morphy game on record. Someone should put up a roadmap.

  • @andylee3114
    @andylee3114 10 місяців тому +86

    I'm ROFLing over here at Ben's expressions when the kid is talking. 😆😆😆

  • @samuelrosenbalm
    @samuelrosenbalm 10 місяців тому +151

    I realize it's just a little kid, but Ben Finegold has much patience.

    • @anybodykill6666
      @anybodykill6666 10 місяців тому +9

      Had, had so much patience.

    • @Ramin2340
      @Ramin2340 10 місяців тому +29

      it's a very annoying little kid lmao

    • @rocksolid6494
      @rocksolid6494 10 місяців тому

      If I was W.C.Fields, I would rather be in Philadelphia

    • @wkusam123
      @wkusam123 10 місяців тому +7

      I was coming to the comments to type this word for word.

    • @thanks5832
      @thanks5832 10 місяців тому +20

      i have a question… what?

  • @brendanhcarroll
    @brendanhcarroll 4 місяці тому +19

    Kid: NAKAMURA WON MAGNUS CARLSEN
    Ben: Did he take him home?
    Priceless

  • @ZsebtelepHUN
    @ZsebtelepHUN 8 місяців тому +9

    I think there was a moment where Ben was wondering whether its him teaching the class, or that kid.

  • @Grayback1973
    @Grayback1973 6 місяців тому +9

    OMG, that kid! Ben's interactions with him were just priceless.I didn't even care about the Morphy games after a while.....good grief!

  • @TheRadicalCentrist.1776
    @TheRadicalCentrist.1776 8 місяців тому +11

    20:15. It was at about this point I found myself more interested in Ben managing the mouthy kid than anything going on in the chess games.

  • @danielgautreau161
    @danielgautreau161 10 місяців тому +25

    Immanuel Lasker used to play casual chess with a friend. Lasker gave knight odds and always won. When asked how, he said, "He never moves his QR or QN. So I am not giving him N odds. He is giving me R odds."

    • @12jswilson
      @12jswilson 10 місяців тому

      Was his friend Albert Einstein? I know they were friends, and I saw a game of Einstein's once and he was right to stick with physics.

    • @NS-mm6jq
      @NS-mm6jq Місяць тому

      What is qr and qn?

    • @danielgautreau161
      @danielgautreau161 Місяць тому

      @@NS-mm6jq queen rook and queen knight

    • @danielgautreau161
      @danielgautreau161 Місяць тому

      @@12jswilson I dk Maybe. Einstein did not like competitive games.

  • @ernlrb
    @ernlrb 10 місяців тому +29

    “I have a question, what?” Ben Finegold, March 11th, 2018.

    • @MrBonified66
      @MrBonified66 10 місяців тому +1

      That's making me laugh every time

  • @PaulFurber
    @PaulFurber 10 місяців тому +34

    I'm a simple man: I see Grandmaster Ben Finegold talking about Paul Morphy, I watch.

  • @chesswithivan8346
    @chesswithivan8346 9 місяців тому +2

    Ben discussing this game at St Louis with GM Ken West is the highlight of my youtube chess learning career

  • @48wallace
    @48wallace 2 місяці тому

    The kid is a testament to BenFingold's great teaching, that little guy knows his stuff. So, enjoy Ben's classes and I have become a Morphy fan.

  • @Derrickthepeng
    @Derrickthepeng 10 місяців тому +6

    For those of you who don’t get it, ben said AB Meek would inherit the earth in reference to a Bible quote, which says the meek shall inherit the Earth

  • @NeoJackBauer
    @NeoJackBauer 9 місяців тому

    Thanks - very informative video!

  • @jordancobb7553
    @jordancobb7553 2 місяці тому +1

    Hi, im Troy maclure. You may remember me from lectures in Grandmaster Benjamin Finegolds lessons on Paul Morphy

  • @zacharyheflin6794
    @zacharyheflin6794 10 місяців тому +3

    I appreciate all free chess content but the kids in the background really are a distraction for anyone old enough.
    I tip my hat to you sir! Far more patience than myself

  • @CalebJNelson
    @CalebJNelson 3 місяці тому +1

    I thought the kid was unbearable at first. But in time, I came to admire his “Yeah!”.

  • @MetalShadow3142
    @MetalShadow3142 10 місяців тому

    Thank you for your work all these years Ben, Happy Fourth of July!

  • @danjeory3659
    @danjeory3659 9 місяців тому +2

    "Or you could retreat like a Frenchman... because it's in New Orleans!"
    Kid: "YEAH! BECAUSE NEW ORLEANS WAS OWNED BY FRANCE!! THEN IT PASSED TO SPAIN BEFORE IT PASSED TO THE US!!"

    • @garrysmith1029
      @garrysmith1029 8 місяців тому

      At one time people spoke French they're trying to bring that back now.

  • @u.v.s.5583
    @u.v.s.5583 10 місяців тому +3

    "Paul, I am your father!"
    Darth Alonzo Morphy, ca. 1840

  • @snookslayer4559
    @snookslayer4559 9 місяців тому +2

    I used to question why a piece can have influence over squares, that it can't LEGALLY move to because it's pinned to a king (like that rook pin). I posted that question on a chess forum and some really smart dude answered showing how absolutely convoluted the game would become if that was allowed (pins everywhere). So, I understand the logic of the guy asking why the king couldn't move to a square that a pinned rook was covering... but alas - not allowed and now it makes sense why.

    • @dsrguru
      @dsrguru 8 місяців тому +6

      Another way to think about it is to remember that pins aren't defined in the rules but rather a mental shortcut derived from the rules. In the position at 9:34, if it were white's turn, the reason the rook can't be moved off the first rank is not ultimately because we call it pinned, but because black would be able to capture our king, and it's against the rules to let the opponent do that / that would end the game if playing with "clock move" rules. So we know black cannot move their king onto the e-file because the white rook would capture the black king before the black queen could capture the white king.

    • @infantiltinferno
      @infantiltinferno 8 місяців тому +4

      @@dsrguru Exactly. Imagine an early version of chess where the kings can be captured and it all makes sense. Much like _en passant_ makes perfect sense if you remember the pawn double move is a convention to speed up the opening.

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 7 місяців тому +2

      @@dsrguruThat's the wrong way to think about it. The correct way to think about it is to understand the King fundamentally can't be captured, and that it's all about the inability to move into check. It's not a pin. It's illegal for the King to move into check, the same way it's illegal for a Queen to move as a Knight.

  • @jsj297
    @jsj297 10 місяців тому +6

    That kid should be Ben’s normal sidekick for all future lectures. Kid is 🔥🤣🥊 “what?”

  • @Antipodeano
    @Antipodeano 10 місяців тому +1

    Morphy is one of the greats. Happy 4th of July Ben & Karen, hope the poker Gods are smiling down in the WSOP currently!

  • @shadowfantasiesf8556
    @shadowfantasiesf8556 2 місяці тому

    Hooray, more Morphy.

  • @lukecackett4566
    @lukecackett4566 2 місяці тому

    “Who’s turn is it?” “Exactly” 😂
    Also, great lecture and so forth. Mostly and so forth

  • @WhizzerdSupreme
    @WhizzerdSupreme 10 місяців тому +8

    "Hickaroo Nakamura" 🤣💀

  • @Compassiron1
    @Compassiron1 10 місяців тому +7

    They failed to obey the only 2 rules of chess club

    • @1CO1519
      @1CO1519 8 місяців тому

      They probably never raised their hands.

  • @jamesp6376
    @jamesp6376 10 місяців тому +8

    This video is great birth control

  • @negativenancy3738
    @negativenancy3738 10 місяців тому +6

    7:10 “I have a question, WAT?”

  • @Admiralmeriweather
    @Admiralmeriweather 8 днів тому

    that kid is surprisingly knowledgeable. 2 knights italian?!

  • @dodiad
    @dodiad 9 місяців тому +3

    Nobody has ever told this kid he isn’t the center of the universe.

    • @DLB-po6nn
      @DLB-po6nn 5 місяців тому

      bad pushy parent.

  • @salvadorsabateromero9707
    @salvadorsabateromero9707 9 місяців тому

    19:00

  • @VFomalhaut
    @VFomalhaut 10 місяців тому +1

    Im a big fan of Morphy

  • @liquidghost
    @liquidghost 10 місяців тому +7

    these kids are hilarious!!!😂😂

    • @MarcFromBerryland
      @MarcFromBerryland 10 місяців тому +2

      I was just about to leave a similar comment but I see you already beat me to it

    • @u.v.s.5583
      @u.v.s.5583 10 місяців тому +2

      I agree, love the kids!!! They make this lecture an even better experience. So wholesome!

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 7 місяців тому

      @@u.v.s.5583I wouldn't describe it as wholesome

  • @DrDeuteron
    @DrDeuteron 10 місяців тому +2

    Hickory knock a more a sounds like he can play

  • @executivelifehacks6747
    @executivelifehacks6747 8 місяців тому

    I play handicapped this way with my kids.

  • @VitoYedda
    @VitoYedda 10 місяців тому +9

    So glad Ben's back to his old format. I really didn't like his streaming videos I think these are so much more entertaining and instructive

    • @santos1827
      @santos1827 10 місяців тому +21

      these are just reuploads this videos from 2018

    • @chucknola484
      @chucknola484 10 місяців тому +1

      I think him and Karen are still in Vegas as the WSOP. These are just re-uploaded content from several years ago.

    • @danbrooks5060
      @danbrooks5060 10 місяців тому +1

      while this is an old video, new Great Players lectures are still being recorded, you just gotta sponsor one😅

  • @davekent6851
    @davekent6851 10 місяців тому +8

    New Orleans was indeed founded by the French, ruled by the Spanish and then bought by the U.S.

    • @BREAKocean
      @BREAKocean 10 місяців тому

      Ooh explains the cajuns

  • @adilbrohi2799
    @adilbrohi2799 10 місяців тому +6

    Im a simple guy, I see morphy i click like

  • @fuselwuselmusel2164
    @fuselwuselmusel2164 10 місяців тому +7

    I'm not certain, but it seems to me that the kid didn't understand the first two rules, maybe.

  • @turtle2poop
    @turtle2poop 10 місяців тому +3

    woohoo , more Morphy from grandmaster Ben Finegold.

  • @u.v.s.5583
    @u.v.s.5583 10 місяців тому

    - I swear to god I can give rook odds to Magnus.
    - No fucking way!
    - Yes, I can give rook odds to Magnus, and I don't even need to cheat.
    - Come on!
    - Perfectly true.
    However, I did not say who would win.

  • @SomeRandomNameOrOther
    @SomeRandomNameOrOther 10 місяців тому +7

    Children - you can't beat them. It's the law.

    • @u.v.s.5583
      @u.v.s.5583 10 місяців тому

      Unless you are Master Skywalker in his Revenge of the Sith phase.

  • @mariocasas322
    @mariocasas322 Місяць тому

    hahaha this video is hilarious with the kid interrumpting 🙂

  • @davidhead9083
    @davidhead9083 10 місяців тому +3

    The kid made the video for me, so annoying but it's hilarious how random it is. Glad you posted it.

  • @reggiemustard
    @reggiemustard 10 місяців тому +6

    Ben lecturing on Morphy games is probably my favourite content on UA-cam. But I can’t sit here and listen to this kid.

  • @anonymousAJ
    @anonymousAJ 10 місяців тому

    31:40 if Kb6 isn't the black queen hanging with check?
    I don't think Black is OK there

  • @NS-mm6jq
    @NS-mm6jq Місяць тому

    Nobody saw that kid after the lecture 😂

  • @MrCupidd
    @MrCupidd 10 місяців тому

    What?

  • @e4e5nc3
    @e4e5nc3 10 місяців тому +1

    I have many classes as this, most of the time its 5 year, they got many stories. I have the class wait for them to say there story.

    • @chrisSo91
      @chrisSo91 10 місяців тому +8

      I have a question. What?

    • @e4e5nc3
      @e4e5nc3 10 місяців тому +3

      @@chrisSo91 I wrote it too fast. Kids age 5, they like to talk about things, sometimes not even about chess. We wait for them to finish.

    • @A51838
      @A51838 10 місяців тому +1

      @@chrisSo91 tell me you've never spoken to someone who speaks english as a second language without telling me you've never etc

  • @luxwutang
    @luxwutang 10 місяців тому +1

    kids classes are the best LMAO

  • @TheGrandmaMoses
    @TheGrandmaMoses 5 місяців тому

    What I don't understand: In the era of Morphy, the era of being cavalier, of respect, of well-mannered people - why would anyone with a bit of self-esteem left in his body play Morphy with a piece down?
    Either they win, to which everybody says 'you were up a rook, ofc you win!', or they loose, to which everyone would say that this was a very thorough beating. So why accept at all? Makes no sense. I know that if someone comes to me and offers me rook odds, chances are very high that I am not ready to face that player. And even if I were, winning a rook up means exactly nothing in the grand scheme of things; so I can't even win anything by accepting the odd offer. So why waste time on it? To let the other guy stroke his ego? Nope...
    At the end of the day, odds are plain stupid. It's like saying 'I'm only gonna bowl with my left hand' to your children, then proceeding to beat them. Well done you, but what you actually did was beat a bunch of children and that's nothing to be proud of, even if you only used your left hand.
    That's what odd games feel like - adults beating up children, but with one minor inconvenience self-imposed to not make it look as ridiculous. After the game, Morphy isn't happy with winning as he wants to be challenged, and the enemy is very unhappy with loosing as he lost a rook up - poison for his self-esteem.
    So yeah, games with odds never made much sense to me, they aren't that interesting ( I've yet to see a game with odds given that wasn't won by the superior player - which is always the one giving the odds ) and benefit none of the two players. So, all in all - a bad deal.

    • @matthewkoveleski9131
      @matthewkoveleski9131 3 місяці тому +2

      Probably because there was lots of gambling, I’d guess. They probably thought it would be easy money.

  • @MuhammadIqbal-dp2es
    @MuhammadIqbal-dp2es 10 місяців тому +1

    Always play bishop F8, Never Play F6

    • @schyllic
      @schyllic 10 місяців тому

      That’s only after casting 😅

  • @Nutslap
    @Nutslap 9 місяців тому +1

    If that kid talked 1/10 of what he did it would be entertaining...maybe 1/20

  • @gustalumos4430
    @gustalumos4430 10 місяців тому

    Morrrrrphyyyyyyyyyy

  • @zetacrucis681
    @zetacrucis681 7 місяців тому +2

    The jokes going over the kids' heads is funny. Confusing the audience indeed

  • @sublimeade
    @sublimeade 10 місяців тому

    Hickaroo

  • @matthewkoveleski9131
    @matthewkoveleski9131 3 місяці тому

    Lmao at your two rules hahaha

  • @Deucely
    @Deucely 10 місяців тому +1

    All thanks to the ApPauling requests of the public, we were forced to retire Morphy's law and bring you yet another banger from the past featuring Gen Pinegold! Take care everyone. I'll see myself out, I know the way, some say I was made to leave, etc. Mainly, etc.

  • @klausfiedler64
    @klausfiedler64 10 місяців тому +4

    Must be a car trunk out in the parking lot to throw the kid into?

  • @Yusuf_K7
    @Yusuf_K7 10 місяців тому

    @12:27 Ben's students are taking after him.

  • @MundusTransit
    @MundusTransit 10 місяців тому

    he used to tell the kids to stop talking. whos hick-a-roo?

  • @schyllic
    @schyllic 10 місяців тому

    No talking

  • @michaelwright8896
    @michaelwright8896 10 місяців тому +4

    ban that kid and his children's childrens.

  • @ayechanpaing6949
    @ayechanpaing6949 10 місяців тому

    Ben, refund that kid. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @sheikmanzoor5003
    @sheikmanzoor5003 7 місяців тому

    Kids are horrible 😅😅😅

  • @skakdosmer
    @skakdosmer 10 місяців тому

    Why is that kid shouting all the time?

    • @hispls
      @hispls 7 місяців тому +1

      Probably because he doesn't have parents who teach him any manners.

    • @DLB-po6nn
      @DLB-po6nn 5 місяців тому

      @@hispls That's exactly why. They'll also be the parents who think their kid is good enough to be the best and have to learn the hard way. Goes without saying if you're pushing your kid into learning chess from a GM in a class - you have more money than sense.

    • @hispls
      @hispls 5 місяців тому

      @@DLB-po6nn
      I can't imagine chess camp with Ben is any more than parents would spend on music lessons or sports or most other youth activities. That said, chess may not be the best outlet for a boy who can't contain verbal outbursts.

    • @DLB-po6nn
      @DLB-po6nn 5 місяців тому

      @@hispls Pretty sure most parents can't afford to send kids to chess classes.

    • @hispls
      @hispls 5 місяців тому

      @@DLB-po6nn
      A quick google search shows chess camps for youths range from 250-450$ per week which is on the very low end of estimated cost of any youth sport and only around double what parents would be paying for daycare in Georgia.
      Not sure what "most parents" can and can't afford, but I don't believe the cost of chess camp is any worse than fishing camp, horse riding camp, or a summer athletics program.

  • @TalsBadKidney
    @TalsBadKidney 10 місяців тому +3

    that kid must be a really annoying teenager now

  • @mikecantreed
    @mikecantreed 10 місяців тому

    I’m Ben Finegold and you’re not

  • @randallhenzler5807
    @randallhenzler5807 10 місяців тому

    Your a comedy genius......perhaps better than your elo?

  • @thedigitalnerds
    @thedigitalnerds 3 місяці тому

    The child was not very accurate. And frankly childish.

  • @Henskill
    @Henskill 10 місяців тому

    what