Great Players of the Past: Bobby Fischer
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- Опубліковано 15 бер 2023
- Check out Ben's Chessable courses here! www.chessable.com/author/BenF... GM Ben Finegold's at his finest with this lecture on Bobby Fischer as part of the "Great Players of the Past" series.
4:44 Robert James Fischer vs. Lhamsuren Myagmarsuren, Sousse Interzonal (1967)
16:31 Robert James Fischer vs. Boris V. Spassky, World Championship, Reykjavik (1972)
27:08 Rene Letelier Martner vs. Robert James Fischer, Leipzig (1960)
36:33 Robert James Fischer vs. Bent Larsen, Portoroz Interzonal (1958)
45:40 Robert James Fischer vs. Efim P. Geller, Bled (1961)
Thanks to Nick Ragone, whose generosity made this video possible!
Recorded at the Chess Club and Scholastic Center of Atlanta on January 23, 2018, and originally posted on the CCSCATL Channel on January 29, 2018. So yes, you've probably seen this one before.
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Could you try to cover more recognizable players please
Bobby who? Frankly, terrible.
You don't recognize bobby Fischer?
@@brianjacob8728 literally who?
@@Chris.4345 wikipedia is your friend.
@@brianjacob8728 why would I Wikipedia some random dude? he probably wasn’t even that good
Thanks to Ben for bringing us this forgotten players series, very informative!
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I had no idea who this fischer guy was until ben told me about him. Its a shame that not a lot of people know him he seemd like a pretty good chess player
@@microblitz7635 pretty good at saying to much to the media as well! One of the best
@Agora 0000 Yeah too sad that many people have forgotten Fischer or don´t even want remember him when they hear he was "crazy" and mentally ill. Typical for our time, we ostrazise someone when they just have a little spot on them that we don´t like, allthough they´re also amazing at the same time.
I'm glad you re-uploaded this video, it's one of my favorite lectures of yours. Not just because it's about Fischer, but also because the banter and the commentary in this particular video are top notch in my opinion
The banter and commentary are paramount for Ben‘s video quality imo. Not that he isn‘t entertaining regardless, but it‘s what truly separates him from other chess UA-camrs
The bowdler attack, named after grandmaster attack
Lord knows how much they had to pay Ben for him to cover someone so recognizable. Dozens of dollars at least!
About National Master Ronald Barry Finegold
Ron Finegold joined the Michigan Chess Association in the late 1950's. His first major success was equal 2nd in the 1958 Michigan Open with 5.5 out of 7, behind former French champion Stephan Popel's perfect score. He was a National Master for a great number of years and is a Life Master.
In 1961, he took clear first with a 5-0 score at the Glass City Open in Toledo, Ohio, where the field of well over 100 players included several masters.
Ron was the 2nd Board prize winner at the 1962 Pan-Am Intercollegiate for Wayne State University's chess team, which finished in third place among several dozen teams at the Philadelphia event.
Earlier in 1962, he took a trip with other Michigan players to the U.S. Open in San Antonio, Texas. In this tournament, which featured many grandmasters such as Benko, R. Byrne, Lombardy, and Bisguier, as well as grandmasters and IM's from Europe and South America, Ron finished 15th with 8 points out of 12. Coincidentally, he had identical 8-point performances in the other two U.S. Opens in which he participated, Ventura (Calif.) 1971 and Dearborn 1992.
Ron played his best-known tournament game at the 1963 Western Open in Bay City. Bobby Fischer, irritated by perceptions of Soviet cheating and poor treatment by international organizers, accepted an invitation to the Western Open. Ron was paired with Bobby in Round Five in what turned out to be Bobby's longest game of the tournament. Fischer finally squeezed out a win in a complex ending.
Ron scored first place or equal first in three Motor City Opens. Equal first in the 1971 Flint Open ahead of many masters including Larry Gilden and Eugene Martinovsky. Winner of dozens of USCF-rated tournaments including at least four tournaments in 1980. First place in the Cleveland Open, scoring 5-0 over many masters from Ohio, Michigan and Illinois in the late 60s. Ron is a veteran of many Michigan and national events, including the Michigan Open, the Michigan Speed Championships, the Motor City Open, the World Open and the Chicago Open.
In the blitz side event at the 1991 National Open in Chicago, he defeated GM Walter Browne, founder of the World Blitz Chess Association. Later that year, Ron finished in clear 2nd at the Canadian Open blitz tournament in Windsor. He also holds the unique distinction of scoring an undefeated 24 wins and 4 draws in a series of Insanity tournaments that used to be held in Cincinnati, Detroit and Toledo in the 60's and early 70's, making him the Insanity Champion.
I love it when he adds a sentence with lower voice... "And in the analysis room..(if you can call it that)" 😄
Funny and Educational, Great Chess-lecture Ben Finegold-style 😄👍
25:14 Lichess says +1000 when it hits depth 40
By far the most enjoyabe chess youtube channel. I only study from chess books but Ben makes my chess journey much more enjoyabe. Best wishes mate.
Steinitz v Von Bardelelaben was the first game I ever memorised. Im so happy I got the referance! 😂
Another wonderful episode to the series. I'm a big Fischer fan and I already knew the games. But its nice to hear Finegold's thoughts on the games. Cheers!
Thanks Ben! 😊
Although the first game Ben shows is certainly one of Fischer's most famous victories, it does not appear in "My 60 Memorable Games." The only game from the 1967 Interzonal he includes in "My 60 Memorable Games" is his win vs Stein. And, yes, this is the Interzonal where he withdrew while leading.
That's a beloved myth. Fischer did NOT withdraw from Sousse while leading. To the contrary, he was a full 2 points behind Larsen when Larsen sat down to play Fischer for their Round 15 game (a game which Fischer forfeited).
@@GraemeCree Fischer had two fewer points when he was scheduled to play Larsen in round 15, but he had played four fewer games. His score at that point was 8.5-1.5, Larsen's was 10.5-3.5. Of the four unplayed games, one came from a bye round (Larsen's bye round would come later), one had been rescheduled for religious reasons, while the other two (versus Hort and Gipslis) were scored as forfeits when Fischer failed to show. Fischer had been given the ultimatum that the two forfeits would stand, which I suppose means his score going into round 15 would have been 8.5-3.5, with one game pending. Naturally, the forfeited games were part of his dispute with the organizers.
@@zanti4132 Everything you said is true. Fischer had already had his Bye, while Larsen hadn't. True. And Fischer had two forfeited games that were part of the dispute, that's also true.
But just as a matter of fact, he was not leading the tournament when he left it. Maybe he woulda, coulda, shoulda been leading if he had made up both those forfeits and won them both, and also scored in the extra game. But in actual fact, he was not leading.
Fischer actually tried to get to that last game with Larsen, but was unable to get there in time. Winning an interzonal is trivial, the only thing that matters is to qualify,, and Fischer surely would have qualified if he had finished. My own theory is that after failing in 1959 and 1962, he couldn't take another failure. He HAD to win the next time he tried, and he wasn't quite sure he had corrected all the flaws in his play that Curacao had exposed. So he made an excuse not to finish, the same way he made an excuse not to play in 1964. That's just a theory, but in the end he made the right choice. In 1970-1972 he was a clear cut above everyone else, but was not yet in 1967. 1972 was actually the perfect time for Fischer to try. Petrosian and Spassky were starting to get old, while the new generation hadn't arrived yet.
Fischer missed easy win against Stein 26:Knight f7! Fischer played Knight f3? Also against Geller in 1967 flawed masterpiece 17:Rook f6!! Fischer played 17:exf7?
@@RaineriHakkarainen Fischer did beat Stein in the interzonal. In fact, Stein and Reshevsky were the only two top players he beat in that tournament, the other wins were against weaker players (17th place or lower).
Fischer certainly would have qualified if he'd finished, but as a simple matter of fact, he wasn't leading the tournament when he left it. I don't blame people for thinking he was. The myth has been repeated thousands of times. But he just wasn't.
Glad Ben asked the Airplane questions... I wasn't getting many of the chess questions but that was a good ego boost with the audience at a loss... I AM serious, and quit calling me Shirley.
Man this Fischer guy was pretty good.
Who woulda thunk it?
Amazing lecture
LOLOLOL the intro "bit"
Ben: "the doctor told me I was special because I fell on my head, right?"
Kid: "duhhhhh"
Ben: "Yeah he remembers that"
You should make new videos about Great Players from the Past series. Fischer, Tal, Capablanca and Lasker would be awesome.
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27:04 Mike Kummer never living it down
04:32 -- Fischer vs. Lhamsuren Myagmarsuren (1967)
16:22 -- Fischer vs. Boris Spassky (1972 - game 6)
27:02 -- Fischer vs. Rene Letelier Martner (1960)
36:23 -- Fischer vs. Bent Larsen (1958)
45:36 -- Fischer vs. Efim Geller (1961)
this bobby fischer sounds like a pretty good player but he's no ben finegold
You can say that again sister
Benbob Fishgold
That's GM Finegold to you😊
"When I was your age, except younger"
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16:58 Ben.EXE has stopped working.
The whole reason that Chess Life & Review (not Chess Life) cover was funny was because it had already happened. Fischer had already deviated from P-K4 (not e4) a couple of times. Fischer played 1. c4 against Polugaevsky (a draw), and had played Larsen's Opening (1. b3) a couple of times, all in 1970.
This seems very familiar!
Also "What was your Dad's name?" ... "Finegold"
with regards to the Letelier game, I saw airplane. And every day at work for a few months I told my coworkers that "I picked a bad day to quit sniffing glue"
That's what Letelier said after Qxf4!!
Anticipating a “Crazy like Fox News” comment
Lmao 30 seconds in 😂
Crazy like CNN. And expected from someone who plays games for a living lol.
@@TheSummersilk imagine saying this even after the dominion case . How deluded are you ?. Secondly making a good living out of chess is hard lol
@@VARMOT123 there’s litterally no shot you think they’re not equivalents
Types a quick comment to answer the thumbnail and then gets distracted by "daily dose of Internet" within 30 seconds😅
Fantastic Ben
Please do one if these videos on dubov
I like how Ben describes the guy who requested the video with a fist pumping the air and then immediately makes plans to ignore the numerous stipulations about which games he should cover lolol!
i like this guy
The vid talks about "The Byrne Game", as though there was only one. In fact, Robert Byrne was Fischer's toughest US opponent after Reshevsky, maybe even tougher (He beat Fischer fewer times than Reshevsky did, but had a better overall record). Fischer had only scored 50% against Byrne until their last game, lost one game to Byrne in the 1965 Championship, and should have lost one other. Even in the big game, Robert was so good that he knew he was lost when nobody else except Fischer did.
Really great !!
Here for this classic
The board on position in the video at 13:05: It is not true that "the engine" (in my case Stockfish) does tell for black, hey, everything is cool. It says Ra8-a7 and -4.9, so it's lost - for the computer. No checkmate in the foreseeable future.
I am hanging around 1,1k or so, I am not a reference but what I would love is to understand is for example how to win with white in this position. It appears very complicated, black will sac material etc.
For a grandmaster the endgame may be a joke but for me queen against rook+something isn't that easy.
I would love to understand how to win when the positon is won 😅
Can anyone pls tell the board and pieces name he use in his videos and where I i find them?
Looks likes chessbase. Unless you got money to burn forget about it.
amazing vid
Never heard of him
Ahah, when the engine gives a number kids are too young to see! Didn't expect it'd go so high! Just after 24:40
This is peak Ben.
33:26 ...So now that five years have passed, what did you want to tell Karen, or whoever it was, here?
He picked a bad day to quit sniffing glue
Yes yes yes!!!
Hey Ben, love your lectures! Just wondered about the audio, I feel like it could really enhance the quality of the video if there would be applied some noise reduction, eqing, proper gating and compression, so if you need an audio guy for that hit me up! :) greetings!
this is a 5-year-old re-upload, probably min-maxing the audio fidelity is not a major priority. also very suspicious to end your comment with "greetings!"
In game 6 from 1972, Spassky played pawn to d4 on move 20. This is positional capitulation, incomprehensible from a world champion. Pawn to c4 instead offered much more resistance.
The jm got him
E4 ftw
I'm pretty sure I seen this before covid
Bobby vs Everybody else.
Is the video sped up?
How much does one need to contribute to choose a player for this lecture series
$5
If you really want to know, go to one of the more recent lectures to find Karen’s email and ask there
@@duaflip goods can
Did you get an answer?
@@MrSupernova111 I can't do it for a while anyway, so I haven't asked yet
8:29
Do Kramnik. Please.
love me some blobby fischer
The title could have been Greatest* player of the past but ok :D
I thought Donald Byrne vs Bobby Fischer was "the game of the century" among chess prodigies? Not overall
overall, but as ben said, it was a slow century.
The game was dubbed "the game of the century." Its universally known that way. Nothing to do with the audience.
Every winning position is a forced mate in theory.
Fries
Literally who?
D4 was definately the losing move...
Damn, I am 667. (likes to your channel). I even missed that!. I will be Morphy against the one who dared to be your 666. Aleister Crowley was a chess player...
I got the Airplane reference, don’t feel bad these kids don’t know stuff
This is a re-upload!
Shouldn't this be titled Greatest Player of All Time (it should)
an opinion almost as sane as some of those held by bobby
@@A51838 this but unironically
@@A51838 lol fischer is easily the greatest player ever. sorry, kid
@@A51838 . Clueless!
Since Fischer refused to defend his title, he does not deserve the benefit of the doubt. He was brilliant, and the best in the world for a short time; that's all we know for certain. Great champions prove their greatness over and over. Carlson won five title matches.
That comment about Giri winning Tata Steel didn't age well
Wait how old is this lecture?
Because one of Ben´s rules in chess is always retreat, he must be a fan of Megatron from Transformers, who always said " - Decepticons RETREAT!"
Hey Ben did you notice my exclam-mark after RETREAT? ;)
Until 50 years ago, Fischer's anti-Marshall was more popular than his anti-Semitism.
Later in life, Fischer kept talking about them Dirty Juice 🥤
he was juice. his mom was terrible. give him a break
Hopefully Ben didn't attack Bobby again while ignoring all the things that were done to him!
Lmao nigga you really a flat earther?
Maga
Luckily not crazy like msnbc though 😄 (just to name one)
That was your biggest takeaway from a video on Fischer?
Every single one of these Games are very well known I was hoping you would choose lesser known games.... All these games have been featured in many books...also he died 15 years ago, not 10
This is from 2018, you dummy
reupload from 2018
Feel free to donate for the next Fischer video.
Bobby Fischer is the greatest simply for speaking out against the tribe.
What tribe
@@WhiteThunder121 oy vey
Is this a Jewish conspiracy reference?
I think people underestimate Fischer's greatness for being his own man. Look at all the other players who live in fear of even mentioning Fischer in the GOAT conversation.
he did have one good point about the antisemitism... semites arent all jews and jews arent all semites, so probably antijudaism is what people mean. Other than that maybe not so many good points.
The term "anti-Semitism" was coined to refer to anti-Jewish activities in the late 1800s, so its conventional usage is supported by history.
@@GH-oi2jf so people have been using a word regardedly for a long time, so what. The fact is that something like 1% of semites are jews.
@@GH-oi2jf so what, people can use words blatantly wrong for a long time, it doesn't make it less regarded to use it in a blatantly wrong way.
@@GH-oi2jf to clarify, semites are about 99% Arab and 1% tiny hatted people
Also the hat thing is not my preferred term, but when I wrote the word that rhymes with whose my post got autocensored
funny guy. shame he's been brainwashed🤦♂
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@@MAGICBaNaNAz64 all i'll say is MSNBC has him right where they want him
@@PlayzBlanston if all it takes is one little joke to summarize Ben as brainwashed in your eyes, you're more brainwashed than anyone
@@MAGICBaNaNAz64 well yeah, that'd obviously be too rash
I´m surprised Ben's doing this despite his idiotic politics
You sure do like whining about Ben like a little bi**h troll, don't you?
Multiple comments, all of you being an a$$hole.
Something smells crazy ☝
@@palatusgames8800 Yeah...the guy whining about Ben.
@@johncee853 the index finger was the giveaway
ya i was shocked at his objectivity. the only video of his i've ever given a thumbs up to
You would think that the common love for chess could be free from your personal political bias, it's disgusting that you would use this platform to demonstrate your lack of logic. "Crazy like fox news" I'm offended and I don't even listen to fox news.
You must have picked a bad day to stop sniffing glue
@archsys307 How many commenters are you gonna accuse of sniffing glue?
@@inspectorlunge3887 I picked a bad day to quit sniffing glue.
Sac, sac, mate. Better as Hikaru takes, takes, takes, takes...