Games of Mikhail Tal and Bobby Fischer, with GM Ben Finegold

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  • Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
  • Check out Ben's Chessable courses here! www.chessable.... GM Ben Finegold discusses three games between Mikhail Tal and Bobby Fischer. This lecture was recorded February 24, 2021, at the Chess Club and Scholastic Center of Atlanta (CCSCATL) in Roswell, Georgia.
    2:43
    Fischer, Bobby - Tal, Mikhail
    Bled (1959)
    17:47
    Fischer, Bobby - Tal, Mikhail
    Bled (1961)
    31:24
    Tal, Mikhail - Fischer, Bobby
    Herceg Novi blitz (1970)
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 46

  • @ActionInHD
    @ActionInHD Рік тому +39

    2:28 - "as we all know, Fischer was such a nice guy" had me laugh out loud

    • @slythespacecat
      @slythespacecat Рік тому +3

      it's funny because he was frankly, terrible

    • @broken1394
      @broken1394 Рік тому +4

      Not entirely true. Frank Brady and John Donaldson have plenty of good thing's to say about him.
      Later on sure, Lot's of unsavoury episodes and some stuff he said was terrible.
      It's not the whole story to just to describe someone as terrible. Unless it's Ivan the terrible or maybe Stalin.

    • @slythespacecat
      @slythespacecat Рік тому +3

      @@broken1394 the joke is that “frankly, terrible” is one of Ben’s catch phrases…

    • @Tasmanaut
      @Tasmanaut Рік тому +4

      fischer knew the truth about the J's

    • @vigilante8374
      @vigilante8374 Рік тому +3

      ​@@Tasmanaut Fischer mother was Jewish (making him according to Jewish law) and his father probably was at well, plus he was personal friends of the Polgars and others. It was just hot air nonsense. I think at least 95% of it was him being pissed at the antics of Reshevsky, who did use his religion as a further excuse to be an asshole.

  • @jayyy5270
    @jayyy5270 Рік тому +41

    Great players of the past might be my favorite chess series at this point. It's up there with Simon William's longer games, John Bartholomew's chess fundamentals/climbing the rating ladder, and it's almost as entertaining as a Chessbrah sub battle.

    • @andress4780
      @andress4780 Рік тому +7

      If you don't already know about it, you may like GM Naroditsky's speedrun series. They are brilliant and extremely informative.

    • @aaronaragon7838
      @aaronaragon7838 Рік тому +1

      The Ginger GM 60 Greatest Games.

    • @WhizzerdSupreme
      @WhizzerdSupreme Рік тому

      What @andress4780 said. Sensei Danya's series are tailor-made to explaining games at the level of the speedrun's current rating.

    • @ChessScholarOfficial
      @ChessScholarOfficial 4 місяці тому

      How about the beginner to master series by ChessNetwork?

  • @rikardotoro
    @rikardotoro Рік тому +20

    the nakamura sneeze cracked me up 🤣

  • @thenewstyle8704
    @thenewstyle8704 Рік тому +5

    Couldn’t ask for a better topic, and with Ben lecturing… guaranteed to be good

  • @germanchris4440
    @germanchris4440 Рік тому +12

    It is said that Fischer didn't spend more than two to three minutes on any game in the 1970 blitz tournament. This would suggest that probably Tal thought longer in this game and thus reached a winning position, but then had no time to convert the advantage into a win, while Fischer still had plenty of time left to counter victoriously (although Fischer obviously didn't really exploit his eventual time advantage!?). Sort of like that, maybe. I would have loved to see that live.

  • @diabmbaideen4976
    @diabmbaideen4976 Рік тому +3

    Mr. Finegold.. thank you for the great content and this amazing series ❤
    Appreciate your efforts and my apologies about not being able to support and donate..

    • @NS-mm6jq
      @NS-mm6jq 6 місяців тому +1

      Press like and share then

  • @samuelhumphrey5908
    @samuelhumphrey5908 Рік тому

    Oh wow! This just came up on my feed, can't wait to watch this!!! ❤

  • @FloydMr0709
    @FloydMr0709 Рік тому +1

    Herceg Novi - Montenegro and Bled - Slovenia

  • @JasonKifner
    @JasonKifner Рік тому

    I literally spit out my coffee on, "...because as we all know, Fischer was such a nice guy." Perfect timing.

  • @jonassteegmans2537
    @jonassteegmans2537 Рік тому +9

    28:40 made me laugh out loud

    • @tvens1
      @tvens1 Рік тому +1

      Only Nakamura isn`t 15th, he`s 5th now in classical, which is impressive, giving how little he plays classical.

    • @Rspknlikeab0ssxd
      @Rspknlikeab0ssxd Рік тому

      ​@@tvens1This video is a reupload. Also, his point still stands, regardless🤣

    • @andress4780
      @andress4780 Рік тому +1

      @@tvens1 isn't be number two now after the Norway chess tournament?

    • @tvens1
      @tvens1 Рік тому

      @@Rspknlikeab0ssxd I know it's an upload. How does it still stands?

    • @maciekGTR
      @maciekGTR 12 днів тому

      And now he somehow got to 2nd place lol. Only proves Ben's point I guess if Nakamura is no.2 in classical at 36

  • @peterbauer7271
    @peterbauer7271 11 місяців тому +2

    Rare Ben finegold

  • @MrHeroicDemon
    @MrHeroicDemon 10 місяців тому

    "risk it to get the biscuit" hahaha also it's in a movie, fired up, good movie.
    It woulda been Gold to say "As us Genius Grandmasters would say "" risk it to get the biscuit."" " then shake your head no and disappointed look.
    I swear AI Ben finegold would be wild.

  • @scottwarren4998
    @scottwarren4998 3 місяці тому

    @GMBenjaminFinegold 2800? fischer was at the level of 2900 elo in the year 1972. They measured elo differently in that time, that's why fischer had a lowers rating at that time compared to today's players.

    • @baoboumusic
      @baoboumusic 2 місяці тому

      Elo is not a measurement, it's a statistical calculation based on results devised by professor Elo in the 1960s and implemented by FIDE in 1970. So Fischer's rating of 2780 was Elo.
      Now there are various reasons why you cannot compare ratings from period to period as an objective yardstick, but it's not a different calculation. There was a fairly continuous inflation in the late 80s and 90s; and even a bit of deflation since 2000 according to some.

    • @scottwarren4998
      @scottwarren4998 2 місяці тому

      @@baoboumusic right u are. but fischer's elo today would be 2900 if he was born 1990. Look at his gap to the opponents he had.

    • @RaineriHakkarainen
      @RaineriHakkarainen 28 днів тому

      We can not trust these 1960s elo ratings! Stupid Arpad Elo tough wrongly that the chess rating average is 1400 and standard devotion SD=282,8 the correct numbers are the chess rating average is 1650 and SD=256 Chess metrics founder Jeff Sonas used SD=166??? How stupid Arpad Elo got this wrong SD=282,8 So we get 200x200+200x200=80000 and we get square root 80000 is 282,8! The Hard truth is that Capablanca 1918-1924 was 2850 Fischer in 1967-1972 2850 Kasparov 2850 Carlsen 2850! Only we do know is that the highest tournament elo rating score is Fabiano Caruana 8,5/10 StLouis elo 3080! Karpov 11/13 Linares 1994 elo score 3040! Alekhine in San Remo 1930 elo score 3040! Fischer and Kasparov their Best tournament scores only 2990!!

  • @u.v.s.5583
    @u.v.s.5583 Рік тому +1

    - Nakamura!
    - Bless you!

  • @WHAT-gm1xm
    @WHAT-gm1xm Рік тому

    Hey make a video on opening strategy and mistakes and how GM think in chess

  • @AG-ld6rv
    @AG-ld6rv Рік тому +3

    Nice pwnage, brother. Keep up the good work. Praise Christ as I know you love religion so much.

  • @jiaan100
    @jiaan100 Рік тому +1

    first for fischer was only like 60% crazy
    can you say first on a 2 years old reupload? yup just did

  • @Deucely
    @Deucely Рік тому

    EKssssssssssqcuse me???!?!?!? Score.

  • @TommyLikeTom
    @TommyLikeTom 10 місяців тому

    All of the respect I have for Ben Finegold's chess, humor, and tutelage is offset by his poor physical health and appearance. He tugs on his shirt like that parody commercial by Tim Robinson TC tuggers. I just don't understand how someone born into such wealth and someone who is clearly intelligent is able to allow themselves to deteriorate so much.

    • @independentnature295
      @independentnature295 9 місяців тому +7

      We all have our own shortcomings, better to concentrate on fixing your own.

    • @pranaytopgun047
      @pranaytopgun047 4 місяці тому

      Is that you chokamaru?