Paul Morphy won because he was not only a brilliant tactician, but also understood development and controlling the center. He was a player ahead of his time.
Some people's brains are just wired for chess. It's really strange but there are some people who can just look at a board and understand it in a way that we could never even imagine.
Got into chess about a month ago, trying to learn as much as I can but most informative videos are just so boring. This guy gives good ideas, humiliates you for bad ideas, and is hilarious if you appreciate his sort of comedy. Well done
So i was reading the wiki page out of curiosity. Morphy only ever played on and off. Never had any formal training. never a day in his life took the game seriously. He never played competitive matches due to his families moral code against gambling. Stopped playing all but entirely as he went to u of louisiana. Graduated early (because obviously hes a fucking genius) and had some 'free time' on his hands before he hit the minimum age for a legal servant, so he just decided to go become world chess champion? Im speechless.
Wasn´t his name Adolf Anderssen? And wasn´t he from Germany? If I remember correctly it was him who played "The Immortal Game" and "The Evergreen Game", where he played such sharp openings as the King´s gambit and the Evans-gambit. Both games was with White I think.
I knew this because I watched the other Morphy video here from Finegold, which he made a few months before this one and he talks about Anderssen, Stainitz, and Morphy
Anderssen was my thought as well. He was a pure tactician...making him a beast against players of the time...but meant he'd have no consistent shot against Morphy, who had an understanding of position and strategy.
Morphy was also known for his soft, kissable lips and his toned muscular figure. He would flex and whisper sweet nothings whenever he gave double check.
Yes! And the lecture is all about teaching his rules. "Never play f3, always play Bf1, never trade, always play Kb1" etc etc. Oh and most importantly: "Never try."
Morphy was pure talent and it is talent in what we have to think if we want to compare him with today's players, if we bring morphy to the present day in order to be fair we should fill his brain with today theory or if we pick any gm from the present and take him or her to the past we should empty gm's head of theory and once we've done that see who is better.
Morphy might never have become the attacking genius he was if someone had feed him thousands of computer lines, canned defenses and ready made draws. And all the time modern players spend on preparing computer lines and studying old games could have been spend on developing their own lines. We know without the shadow of a doubt that Morphy was brilliant, but we can't compare him to modern players because the scene has changed too much for a valid comparison.
Thanx to GM Finegold for mixing humour n teaching helps me remember alot n thanx to the producer Ben Simon for giving us access to the videos keep up the good work👏👏👏
17:37 "Oh, Kc6? I missed that. Okay. But that blocks the knight, that's ridiculous." He was messing with that dude, right? That's a mate in one with Nd8. Moments like this are why Finegold is my favorite lecturer.
theres 2 reasons why I watch chess club & SCoSL videos: to get better in chess and to laugh about ben's jokes :-) thank you..!! waves from switzerland...
I didn't like him when I first seen one of his lectures, but then I started to notice that his trash talk isn't malicious. And even though he is corny, he seems like a good, humble, honest, funny guy.
Hello GM Finegold, I like your lectures and am a great fan of your teaching. One lesson that stuck with me from your lessons is 'use all your pieces'. Below is a game where I used all my pieces(sacked most of them, dare I say Morphy style) , and checkmated my opponent, who didn't move three of his pieces. I know the game is 'very suspicious' , but I thoroughly enjoyed playing it, thanks to you. [Event "Live Chess"] [Site "Chess.com"] [Date "2015.01.06"] [White "puttaloo"] [Black "Dan-27"] [Result "1-0"] [WhiteElo "1475"] [BlackElo "1550"] [TimeControl "30|0"] [Termination "puttaloo won by checkmate"] 1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4 3.Nf3 h6 4.d4 g5 5.Bc4 Bg7 6.b3 c6 7.Ne5 Bxe5 8.dxe5 b5 9.Bxf7+ Kxf7 10.Qh5+ Kg7 11.Bb2 Qe7 12.Nd2 Qe6 13.Nf3 c5 14.O-O-O Kf8 15.Rd6 Qe8 16.Qg4 Rh7 17.Nxg5 hxg5 18.Qxg5 Qf7 19.Rf1 Rg7 20.Qd8+ Qe8 21.Rxf4+ Rf7 22.Rxf7+ Kxf7 23.Rf6+ Nxf6 24.Qxf6+ Kg8 25.e6 Qxe6 26.Qg7# 1-0
28:32 "They're like _'Wow, a pawn_! Wow!'" LOL! I almost choked to death on my sandwich laughing at that. GM Finegold is seriously hilarious. He should do stand up.
Fantastic stuff....the thing that struck me ....was the accuracy of Paul Morphy.......calculating through to mate leaving captures and avoiding seemingly powerful short term advantages while making his moves in the face of weaker opposition is the kind of thing computer engines do routinely against weaker human opponents.....only there were not computers then calculating with brute force or enjoying the breath of a data base to work from. back then............or were they (cue twilight zone theme : ).....there is no question given recorded history.....that he was well ahead of his time....great lecture Mr Finegold.....
Hey, in the last game, isnt it R4f3? With R1f3, it makes no sense because after h5 black could play Nxf4, and after Bg4 white could just play Rxg4 both instantly winning. It makes sense if the rook is on f1 in stead of f4 though.
Very instructive even with Ben's sarcasm overload...lol. I genuinely feel that GMs before the age of computers are not given enough props. Unbelievable stuff from Morphy.
Are you talking about Anderssen in the video? The immortal of the immortals lol, with the famous Kings gambit game v kieseritzky featuring the pretty minor piece checkmate after sacrificing all the major pieces? I don't know morphy and steinitz's respective scores against Anderssen, but I believe morphy crushed him during his European tour. I think Anderssen was kinda old by the time steinitz was peaking, though, so it's a little bit unfair to compare.
Murphy didn't hate chess after 1859. He just had no competition. And as for his disregard of chess as a profession... I wrote a paper on this in my PhD program. It was a common thing in the mid 19th century. Chess was considered akin to whist.
ahh.. what a shame that the bronstein lecture is unavailible! I really like his style, and I bet gm finegold showed some awesome moves and combinations of his.. Well, you can't have everything I guess.
I allow myself two corrections: the date of the match Morphy-Maurian and 1857 and the match attributed to Thomas Herbert Worrall in reality he was never in New York in 1857 it is about some other opponent this match was played during the 1st american Chess Congress and Worral was never there
There IS a rating system for backgammon, (4:50) it's called Performance Rating (PR). It measures, on average, how much a player loses per move as compared to eXtreme Gammon. (BG program). For instance Mochy is about 2.5., so he's 97.5% perfect.
Yes, but probably Morphy didn't expect his opponents to see more than 1 move ahead xD jokes appart now, yes Morphy did blunder, he should have checked with Nd6 and not play Nf5 so that now the black queen wont fall back to Qb4+ Nf5 was a blunder but who cares? Morphy could have won that game even if he blundered!
Aaaack! Second game at about 15:20 Morphy plays a blunder, Nf5??. Finegold doesn't mention it so I figured there was something I didn't see about it but there's really not: just removing the defender. After Qb4+! the knight on e4 has to retreat and black can indeed grab the rook for a weak pawn.
This actually reminds me of ChessNetwork's Thunderhorse tournament videos. Down a piece, opponent plays awful and gets mated quickly, funny comments, on to another game.
Morphy best ever. Morphy became the best player in the world playing chess as a hobby. The only reason he toured the globe playing chess is because he couldn't practice law until he was 21. Let's send Kasparov to college and then law school and then play Morphy. Morphy would crush him.
***** His opponents weren't THAT bad LOL. They have done computer analysis on his moves and rate him about a 2600 GM . Remember this is 2600 without opening theory, without computer analysis, without coaching, without good opponents to practice against and all done while just playing as a hobby. I'd say he could beat Magnus if he had all of the above.
JohnnyBrutalUSA That sounds like a crock. Ratings exist as a comparison from one player to another, as a ranking. Without high rated opponents increments would be tiny, and 2600 would literally be impossible for the time even if he was genuinely that strong (but he wasn't). Let's face it, Morphy was never forced to play defensively even as black, and defensive technique is of a ridiculously higher standard these days. "They have done computer analysis on his moves" is just more internet garbage. Link or it didn't happen. Even then it would not be likely realistic.
lollipophugo Chess Life magazine had an article about Morphy with computer analysis. Today's chess players are a joke. The game is mostly pre-analyzed computer moves. The opening theory and endgame technique are all computer analyzed and players spend a large portion of each game trying to remember their preparation. It is not them playing. It is one's computer preparation versus the other's computer preparation. At least Morphy's moves were his.
Morphy is only able to get away with "his" moves because his opponents were rubbish. You understand that the level of opening analysis and preparation is only necessarily so thorough now due to normal methods of trying to gain advantage being insufficient, right? Even before the advent of the computer, in the era of Botvinnik incredible levels of preparation became necessary. If literally any of his opponents played reasonable developing moves and didn't cross their fingers and grab every piece of material offered morphy would not have been able to play in this way. He had no endgame technique because he never needed it. I think it is ludicrous to try and compare him to the grandmasters of today as though more than a hundred years of development in every area of the game has been unearthed. Morphy was good for teaching new players to develop their pieces. He might have been good for more than that if he was ever forced to grow beyond piece sacrifices for easy wins against fleeing kings.
JohnnyBrutalUSA Forgot to tag. Also, do you not think any modern grandmaster wouldn't be able to absolutely crush any amateur in the same way? Or that the only thing that makes a modern grandmaster is opening preparation, as if a 2500+ rating can be earned through memorization alone? If you truly believe all that crap you just said then you are living with rose tinted nostalgia goggles on, wishing that all accumulated knowledge would go away so we can enjoy mindless kings gambits. It's entertaining to watch a good player destroy a poor player but it doesn't make for correct chess, and it definitely wouldn't cut it for a modern super gm to go into a world class tournament and nobly not do any preparation hoping that the others with shake on some kind of gentlemen's agreement to play inferior chess and hope. Chess doesn't get played for the spectator, if that's what you want then espn is the place for you.
As a beginner, I so much enjoy watching a good game to the end. I hate draws, and I hate retirement. I hate it when a game is ended and I have no idea why. Maybe they don't play to the end anymore, so we can't "reverse engineer", (for the lack of a better phrase), what they were thinking to achieve the end? I can't stand watching grand master games today. They all quit. The "end game" has been eliminated,----AND THAT IS THE BEST DAMN PART!!!!!!! :)
"Or, it's move 38 and they have 1 minute on their clock and they blunder, and then somebody wins." Is he taking about Nakamura vs Carlsen in the 2014 Zurich Chess Challenge, Round 3 (the Swiss Miss), with Nakamura's d6 blunder?
GM Finegold has the perfect mix of cocky, funny, and instructive. I love this guy.
i agree :)
That's Mister GM Finegold to you
He's also grandmaster in dad jokes.
D rider
Paul Morphy won because he was not only a brilliant tactician, but also understood development and controlling the center. He was a player ahead of his time.
Morphy understood material better than most modern grandmasters. One of the, if not THE best attacking players of all time imho
Morph was not get and master
He was not only ahead he was a century ahead and if he played up to 30y maybe would be 150 y ahead.
"It's not clear how he got good." That's actually an extremely interesting question.
Extremely suspicious I think.
Some people's brains are just wired for chess. It's really strange but there are some people who can just look at a board and understand it in a way that we could never even imagine.
It's very clear. He was a genius.
Obviously used an engine
A time machine
Got into chess about a month ago, trying to learn as much as I can but most informative videos are just so boring. This guy gives good ideas, humiliates you for bad ideas, and is hilarious if you appreciate his sort of comedy. Well done
I have watched most of the Finegold lectures and only now realized Ken West is not a GM.
Haha I think most would keep that to themselves!
Wait, What!!???
Me too
Ken west is not a gm he is an idea
Ken West is a force of nature and a dream made flesh. His greatness transcends norms.
"If you play g5 check, suggested by Ken West in his head ..." Killed me!
I thought about g5 while he said that... I felt personally attacked.
ikr XD
So i was reading the wiki page out of curiosity. Morphy only ever played on and off. Never had any formal training. never a day in his life took the game seriously. He never played competitive matches due to his families moral code against gambling. Stopped playing all but entirely as he went to u of louisiana. Graduated early (because obviously hes a fucking genius) and had some 'free time' on his hands before he hit the minimum age for a legal servant, so he just decided to go become world chess champion? Im speechless.
Unofficial WCC*
He did play some serious chess, but there weren’t many to play in those days. He won the serious games as well.
he played serious games, just never accepted money for winning
'And then he died... Coz that's what happens when u r born 1837.'-GM Ben Finegold
And it is still happening ...
Xdddddd dudes hilarious
The guy who play with Morphy and Stainitz was Anderssen.
Agustin Ronconi and most impressively, Andersson got better than ever after playing Morphy.
Eyyy, my 19th century chess trivia is still solid
Wasn´t his name Adolf Anderssen? And wasn´t he from Germany? If I remember correctly it was him who played "The Immortal Game" and "The Evergreen Game", where he played such sharp openings as the King´s gambit and the Evans-gambit. Both games was with White I think.
I knew this because I watched the other Morphy video here from Finegold, which he made a few months before this one and he talks about Anderssen, Stainitz, and Morphy
Anderssen was my thought as well. He was a pure tactician...making him a beast against players of the time...but meant he'd have no consistent shot against Morphy, who had an understanding of position and strategy.
Morphy was also well known for his subtle intense smile appearing during a lot of his middle games realizing he still had his rook on a1
no way really??
Morphy was also known for his soft, kissable lips and his toned muscular figure. He would flex and whisper sweet nothings whenever he gave double check.
If I taught a Legends class, it would be on GM Ben Finegold.
Yes! And the lecture is all about teaching his rules. "Never play f3, always play Bf1, never trade, always play Kb1" etc etc.
Oh and most importantly: "Never try."
Jimmy Lundberg And of course allways play C4.... Because it's explosive.
double question mark
Aaron Kari terrible
Knife f5
And Ben Finegold is the Paul Morphy of chess lecturers. Great stuff, as always!
Ben: "He's threatening mate. Which one is it, Ken?"
- "That one"
"Correct"
I love how I have no idea who Ken West is, but Finegold shits on him every lecture, so I have this image in my head of him being an awful player.
+bobbyfearfactor not just an awful, but also the one who is playing for long time and does not really improve :D
+BTDroad 2TOP I wonder why he is called 'Grandmaster' Ken West. :):):):):):):D
+Ryan Zheng I think sarcasm.
Yeah, that's what I meant
Hahahaha good!
I like the humor Ben Finegold. People who don't appreciate Paul Morphy don't understand chess.
Morphy was pure talent and it is talent in what we have to think if we want to compare him with today's players, if we bring morphy to the present day in order to be fair we should fill his brain with today theory or if we pick any gm from the present and take him or her to the past we should empty gm's head of theory and once we've done that see who is better.
Exactly.
Morphy might never have become the attacking genius he was if someone had feed him thousands of computer lines, canned defenses and ready made draws. And all the time modern players spend on preparing computer lines and studying old games could have been spend on developing their own lines.
We know without the shadow of a doubt that Morphy was brilliant, but we can't compare him to modern players because the scene has changed too much for a valid comparison.
Your "Legends of Chess Lecture Series" are outstanding!
~ Thanks GM Ben!
Morphy: most entertaining chess player
Ben finegold: best entertainer when talking with peeps
Thanx to GM Finegold for mixing humour n teaching helps me remember alot n thanx to the producer Ben Simon for giving us access to the videos keep up the good work👏👏👏
17:37 "Oh, Kc6? I missed that. Okay. But that blocks the knight, that's ridiculous." He was messing with that dude, right? That's a mate in one with Nd8. Moments like this are why Finegold is my favorite lecturer.
What a treat to come across this! Morphy's my favorite and Ben's always fun to watch, so glad this exists.
theres 2 reasons why I watch chess club & SCoSL videos: to get better in chess and to laugh about ben's jokes :-) thank you..!!
waves from switzerland...
I didn't like him when I first seen one of his lectures, but then I started to notice that his trash talk isn't malicious. And even though he is corny, he seems like a good, humble, honest, funny guy.
A new Finegold lecture on Morphy?
Sweet!
I'd like to see a game between Morphy vs GM Ken West ;)
I really like his lectures. Good stuff.
THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!!!!! YOU KNOW SOMETHING important Morphy know everithing
"He likes to retreat, like any frenchman."
Man, a lot of trash talking goes on in St Louis.
Common joke about the French..
And its getting old...
First 10 minutes without a game, only Ben speaking, luv it
thanks for this video ben, I've been working towards seeing thousands of moves ahead ever since watching this.
17:38 for those of you that don't know: answer to ..Kb6-c6, is Nf7-d8#
I never thought that it was possible to hear about Vasilios Kotronias at a lecture about Paul the First..
Nice presentation btw, thanks GM Finegold
:)
Man, funny and instructive, fiercely enjoyed it!!!! greetings from Belgium 🍻 thank you very much for your lesson
excuse me Ben, imma let you finish, but Beyonce made the greatest video of all time. The greatest video of all time.
Rotfl!
lol XD
You make the best presntations. Not only do you know your stuff really well, but you are hilarious.
21:33
- Ben: "White resigned"
- Sweet-ass crowd: "Ooooowww :("
still watching these in 2019
In this lecture GM Finegold mentioned his own UA-cam channel but I can't find it. Anybody know the channel name?
channel name: "Ben Finegold"
LudiCoka
Thanks! Now subscribed.
*****
Spanner. Next question...
colourmegone You probably went over his head with that one.
When Bobby Fischer calls someone else the greatest Chess genius of all time, its probably true.
great presentation style.... and sense of humor...
I totally love the somewhat obscure but brilliant Simpson's reference, "Put it in H" !
I know Ben is a font of all arcana Simpson... but I thought he copped this one from GingerGM.
GM Finegold is hilarious. Always puts me in a good mood.
The first game showed was against his uncle. What a beating to receive from your nephew.
Khal Draco? Is that a GoT reference?
@@leadnitrate2194 it's a combination of several different fandoms, including GoT.
"Well, he is setting up for the next game" LOL
Hello GM Finegold,
I like your lectures and am a great fan of your teaching. One lesson that stuck with me from your lessons is 'use all your pieces'.
Below is a game where I used all my pieces(sacked most of them, dare I say Morphy style) , and checkmated my opponent, who didn't move three of his pieces. I know the game is 'very suspicious' , but I thoroughly enjoyed playing it, thanks to you.
[Event "Live Chess"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2015.01.06"]
[White "puttaloo"]
[Black "Dan-27"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "1475"]
[BlackElo "1550"]
[TimeControl "30|0"]
[Termination "puttaloo won by checkmate"]
1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4 3.Nf3 h6 4.d4 g5 5.Bc4 Bg7 6.b3 c6 7.Ne5 Bxe5 8.dxe5 b5 9.Bxf7+ Kxf7 10.Qh5+ Kg7
11.Bb2 Qe7 12.Nd2 Qe6 13.Nf3 c5 14.O-O-O Kf8 15.Rd6 Qe8 16.Qg4 Rh7 17.Nxg5 hxg5 18.Qxg5 Qf7 19.Rf1 Rg7 20.Qd8+ Qe8
21.Rxf4+ Rf7 22.Rxf7+ Kxf7 23.Rf6+ Nxf6 24.Qxf6+ Kg8 25.e6 Qxe6 26.Qg7# 1-0
28:32 "They're like _'Wow, a pawn_! Wow!'"
LOL! I almost choked to death on my sandwich laughing at that. GM Finegold is seriously hilarious. He should do stand up.
A prize for the most King moves! LMAO!
at 15:28 Nf5 loses to Qb4+ Nd2 hxg5, very suspicious
Fantastic stuff....the thing that struck me ....was the accuracy of Paul Morphy.......calculating through to mate leaving captures and avoiding seemingly powerful short term advantages while making his moves in the face of weaker opposition is the kind of thing computer engines do routinely against weaker human opponents.....only there were not computers then calculating with brute force or enjoying the breath of a data base to work from. back then............or were they (cue twilight zone theme : ).....there is no question given recorded history.....that he was well ahead of his time....great lecture Mr Finegold.....
Hey, in the last game, isnt it R4f3? With R1f3, it makes no sense because after h5 black could play Nxf4, and after Bg4 white could just play Rxg4 both instantly winning. It makes sense if the rook is on f1 in stead of f4 though.
Very instructive even with Ben's sarcasm overload...lol. I genuinely feel that GMs before the age of computers are not given enough props. Unbelievable stuff from Morphy.
Thanks!
What does he mean when he says "check with advantage" or "mate with advantage"?
SynsityGW it's sarcasm because the advantage is obvious
"Mate with a slight advantage" says everything
I was really looking forward to the Bronstein Lecture! Please post it!
Spiritbro77 Sorry, but it wasn't recorded.
That's a shame. He's my favorite chess master. Oh well. Can't go back in time to record something.... Merry Christmas to everyone at the Chess Club!
Morphy could, he has a time machine...
First thing I read this morning. Today is a good day.
Morphy employed most of the pieces if not at all in the attack. Its amazing and something too be considered.
Are you talking about Anderssen in the video? The immortal of the immortals lol, with the famous Kings gambit game v kieseritzky featuring the pretty minor piece checkmate after sacrificing all the major pieces?
I don't know morphy and steinitz's respective scores against Anderssen, but I believe morphy crushed him during his European tour. I think Anderssen was kinda old by the time steinitz was peaking, though, so it's a little bit unfair to compare.
Paul was far better than both and everybody else, this was clear, and Steinitz knew this himself.
Look at their games and see who impresses you the most.
Shit stopping brillant commentaries by the wonderful Mr. ben....love his patter...love his jokes...yeah....
i cant belive how many times ive seen this
BEN
if you read this please never stop.
Murphy didn't hate chess after 1859. He just had no competition. And as for his disregard of chess as a profession... I wrote a paper on this in my PhD program. It was a common thing in the mid 19th century. Chess was considered akin to whist.
Is whist not good? It is a simplified bridge? What is wrong with whist?
Oh you mean it was considered passtime activity?
Great Comment i love Paul Morphy
ahh.. what a shame that the bronstein lecture is unavailible! I really like his style, and I bet gm finegold showed some awesome moves and combinations of his.. Well, you can't have everything I guess.
Besttttttttttt videooooooooo everrrrrrrrrrr
Thank u
N.N. is actually "nomen nescio" (or "non notus", depending on who you ask), not "no name".
If you ask me its no name
Nomen nescio just means "I don't know the name", so it might as well be no name
Paul Morphy was such a beast! By far the best player of all time when compared to his peers.
I allow myself two corrections: the date of the match Morphy-Maurian and 1857 and the match attributed to Thomas Herbert Worrall in reality he was never in New York in 1857 it is about some other opponent this match was played during the 1st american Chess Congress and Worral was never there
Poor Ken West gets absolutely BTFO in every Finegold lecture and I love it.
more Finefold please ..
4 matches who would win Fischer,Capablanca, Murphy or Carlsen? Ofc without any tactical advantages like game theory.
Tal
Without theory? Probably Morphy or Capablanca. Nah Tal is overrated.
This guy is so funny ! I love this !
There IS a rating system for backgammon, (4:50) it's called Performance Rating (PR). It measures, on average, how much a player loses per move as compared to eXtreme Gammon. (BG program). For instance Mochy is about 2.5., so he's 97.5% perfect.
I could beat morphy if he didn't have atleast one of his pieces
That piece is the king.....
how are you checkmating him if he doesnt have a king
If Ben was not drunk, for sure he wanted to say, that piece was the Queen
So you would lose?
if you think you can win at chess when your oponent doesnt have a king then you will have a tough time with morphy haha
That was a record lecture judging by the number of times he referred to this Ken West guy )
I wish Ben Finegold would write a book about Paul Morphy's games
15:28 after Nf5 isn't there Qb4+ and take the rook, black is crushing??
I am sat here thinking the same thing.Black will win the rook after Nc3.
i thought the same thing and i even analyzed it with the computer and Qb4+ does in fact win the rook. the position is lost for white.
after Qb4+ then Bishop d7 or c3 attaking the queen again if the queen takes the nigth on e4 then Nd6+ is a royal check so it can't take the rook
Yes, but probably Morphy didn't expect his opponents to see more than 1 move ahead xD
jokes appart now, yes Morphy did blunder, he should have checked with Nd6 and not play Nf5 so that now the black queen wont fall back to Qb4+
Nf5 was a blunder but who cares? Morphy could have won that game even if he blundered!
@@cristofervidre8378 its bishop d2 for white, but yeh you're right about everything else
Ben you are a legend!
"It's your club, Rex"
Is he talking to multibillionaire Rex Sinquefield??
Seeing as the CCSCSL hosts the Sinquefield cup, yes.
Mr. Ben is funny, would love to meet him :D
+altair91100 ME TOOO!!!!
Hey, anyone new watching here ??
I see comments form 6-4 years ago...
Do we know anything about the guy who beat Morphy with both 1. f3 and 1. ... f6?
i rofled when Vasilios Kotronios name came..And all the answers were like wtf to me,cause yeah.. I am Greek too :D
Aaaack! Second game at about 15:20 Morphy plays a blunder, Nf5??. Finegold doesn't mention it so I figured there was something I didn't see about it but there's really not: just removing the defender. After Qb4+! the knight on e4 has to retreat and black can indeed grab the rook for a weak pawn.
I really enjoy GM Finegold's down-to-earth humorous style of presentation.
At 17:25 when black king on b6 was checked by bishop he had another move...moving to c6, did anyone else catch that?
kevin franklyn then Knight d8 is mate
How confident can we be that there aren't tons of losses of Morphy's that were just never recorded?
depends on what you mean by tons, but yes he didnt win every game
This actually reminds me of ChessNetwork's Thunderhorse tournament videos. Down a piece, opponent plays awful and gets mated quickly, funny comments, on to another game.
Morphy best ever. Morphy became the best player in the world playing chess as a hobby. The only reason he toured the globe playing chess is because he couldn't practice law until he was 21. Let's send Kasparov to college and then law school and then play Morphy. Morphy would crush him.
*****
His opponents weren't THAT bad LOL. They have done computer analysis on his moves and rate him about a 2600 GM . Remember this is 2600 without opening theory, without computer analysis, without coaching, without good opponents to practice against and all done while just playing as a hobby. I'd say he could beat Magnus if he had all of the above.
JohnnyBrutalUSA That sounds like a crock. Ratings exist as a comparison from one player to another, as a ranking. Without high rated opponents increments would be tiny, and 2600 would literally be impossible for the time even if he was genuinely that strong (but he wasn't). Let's face it, Morphy was never forced to play defensively even as black, and defensive technique is of a ridiculously higher standard these days. "They have done computer analysis on his moves" is just more internet garbage. Link or it didn't happen. Even then it would not be likely realistic.
lollipophugo Chess Life magazine had an article about Morphy with computer analysis. Today's chess players are a joke. The game is mostly pre-analyzed computer moves. The opening theory and endgame technique are all computer analyzed and players spend a large portion of each game trying to remember their preparation. It is not them playing. It is one's computer preparation versus the other's computer preparation. At least Morphy's moves were his.
Morphy is only able to get away with "his" moves because his opponents were rubbish. You understand that the level of opening analysis and preparation is only necessarily so thorough now due to normal methods of trying to gain advantage being insufficient, right? Even before the advent of the computer, in the era of Botvinnik incredible levels of preparation became necessary. If literally any of his opponents played reasonable developing moves and didn't cross their fingers and grab every piece of material offered morphy would not have been able to play in this way. He had no endgame technique because he never needed it. I think it is ludicrous to try and compare him to the grandmasters of today as though more than a hundred years of development in every area of the game has been unearthed. Morphy was good for teaching new players to develop their pieces. He might have been good for more than that if he was ever forced to grow beyond piece sacrifices for easy wins against fleeing kings.
JohnnyBrutalUSA Forgot to tag. Also, do you not think any modern grandmaster wouldn't be able to absolutely crush any amateur in the same way? Or that the only thing that makes a modern grandmaster is opening preparation, as if a 2500+ rating can be earned through memorization alone? If you truly believe all that crap you just said then you are living with rose tinted nostalgia goggles on, wishing that all accumulated knowledge would go away so we can enjoy mindless kings gambits. It's entertaining to watch a good player destroy a poor player but it doesn't make for correct chess, and it definitely wouldn't cut it for a modern super gm to go into a world class tournament and nobly not do any preparation hoping that the others with shake on some kind of gentlemen's agreement to play inferior chess and hope. Chess doesn't get played for the spectator, if that's what you want then espn is the place for you.
"Dude this is too easy let me play you as _enjamin or _eingold!!?".All Morphy's games are chess lectures in themselves ,superbly instructional.
Is this Ken West guy a grandmaster on the opposite side of the rating lists? lol
36:42 yes it was. 5 moves :)
Great presentation on Morphy ... I agree, the best there ever was, but I'm not too sure how he'd come out against a Fischer..
whose the kid he was talking about at the end mako veo?
As a beginner, I so much enjoy watching a good game to the end. I hate draws, and I hate retirement. I hate it when a game is ended and I have no idea why. Maybe they don't play to the end anymore, so we can't "reverse engineer", (for the lack of a better phrase), what they were thinking to achieve the end? I can't stand watching grand master games today. They all quit. The "end game" has been eliminated,----AND THAT IS THE BEST DAMN PART!!!!!!! :)
Morphy truly was the greatest!
Morphy was a machine
This is where Morphy missed the mate in 5 as you explained in previous video : 36:17 ..... Rf8 Qxf8 Qg5 Qg7 Qd5+ and mate follow.
1858 - Morphy - Anderssen, Paris
1866 - Andressen - Steinitz, London
queen e8 was mate also in second position when he block check with queen to f6. Anyway very good video :D
In the last game we have an appearance by T.H. Worrall in New York. I recall the name of an opening line called the Worrall attack. Q: Same guy?
Gutsy comment.
"Or, it's move 38 and they have 1 minute on their clock and they blunder, and then somebody wins."
Is he taking about Nakamura vs Carlsen in the 2014 Zurich Chess Challenge, Round 3 (the Swiss Miss), with Nakamura's d6 blunder?
Love Finegold !!!