You hit the nail on the head with the steroids response. The only way you're gonna get any strength athlete to talk to you about steroid use. Is if you have become good enough in your sport without them and you get the connection to have that VERY SERIOUS conversation of taking the next step.
For the steroid response, you are entirely right. People will blindly follow what someone is doing, at the expense of their health. It is better to assume there are users than confirm which opens up a whole different issue.
Thor did have a weakness and still does, his grip. He's known for having a bad grip. Z and Hooper clearly winning the log when Eddie is in the mix? I think not, Eddie still has some of the strongest shoulders in the world now even after retirement! In his prime he was one of THE strongest pressers on the planet! Z is the all time GOAT for log press though, the man was unbelievable! Eddie's weakness was moving events, as were Brian's. That's where the likes of Hooper and Jon Pall would take them. It would be awesome to see with a time machine but alas it will never be and all we can do is talk about what we think would happen so no one is "right". Great video and agree 100% about the steroids, just stfu about it! 👍👍
Hey Pa, with both Eddie & Brian heavily involved in arm wrestling what other divergent sports do you strong people could do? TBH I just want to see those 2 have some sort diet off down to 120KGs now they're both retired.
Tom is 3x WSM but he can be so much more, his ceiling is incredibly high and stepping outside of his comfort zone like he’s done, albeit challenging, will be an impetus for growth. As we all know, Mitch has the foundations and applications behind him, as well as the consistency, Tom has got to feel that pressure and it seems like he has and is responding to it, fairplay to the bigman, this generations Big Z and Brian Shaw👌👊
Mitch uses tricks and cheats his fans say he is just being smarter, do you want to find the sneakiest strong man in the world? or the strongest? because Mitch is all about finding ways of doing events differently from everyone else just for the win, instead of doing the same as everyone else so we can find the strongest, if you want to find the strongest? smarter stricter rules need to be applied for all events and comps.
@@Ian-if2lf bro you are tripping, he’s not sneaky lol, the guys a machine regardless of stuff like the split jerk technique, he competes in every competition and stays competing, you’re literally downplaying everyone else by saying he’s sneaky or whatever, his dedication to the sport is at an extremely high level and he is one of the strongest also, it’s not that hard to understand, all the other competitors know it so don’t be a hater.
@@declanconnelly1047 Well edited , but I said nothing about split jerk v strict press in my comment? where did i say that? I never said anything like that!, (although since you bring it up it uses completely different mechanics so can't be used as like for like strength which should be the point? right?) . no I am referring to using your lap to rest the handle bar on for a ''grip strength WR'' or doing good mornings instead of the squats you were measured for earlier .. so you don't have to do what everyone else does in order to measure the same strength?. its about strength is it not? not supposed to be about tricks and cheating.
You are right about steroids it shouldn't be encouraged I think food and training is the way and creatine, pre workout as well especially if you are 50 like me
I understand why people dont talk about steriods for reasons you mentioned, plus others. The real issue is that kids and ignoran tpeople think they can win the olympia, set records in PL, or win arm wrestling and strongman competitions natural... which they can't. Then they start and go too far and do something stupid, which harms them forever. I think a slight openness is important. By the way, Thor has actually said he took roids(obviously) but didn't give a timeframe or specifics. he just answered the question with a simple "yes".
Powerlifters and bodybuilders do discuss their exact cycles now Pa. It’s just part of the game now it seems. I agree with you but it’s never been so wide open with what the pros use regarding gear.
@@paodwyer__ Bodybuilding: Tren, Anavar, Halotest, winstrol, test enanthate pre-contest Off-season mainly Test cypionate and deca durabolin Powerlifters hammer the orals during the last few weeks of their competition prep by using halotest, anadrol, and d-bol Tbry also mainly use straight test cypionate in the off season. For the guys that do t want to gain weight they stay away from anadrol and d-bol and might use winstrol at times
What would the ideal strongman show be for you in terms of events and if you had them which current strongmen do you still think you'd struggle to beat?
Gotta get Kaz in the time machine as well. Personally I think Kaz is the one person from back in the day that given the modern advancement in, well everything since then, that he would a podium finisher against anyone from today. JP would be in that conversation as well. But personally I think prime Bill beats prime JP all day long. Hell in 1988 JP was in his prime, and Kaz was a few years past his best with a lot of injuries that took a hell of a toll on him and his performances. And yet against the odds Bill being past his prime very nearly beat JP in his prime. A prime Bill would have definitely beaten JP. (And can’t go by the results on Pure Strength ‘87 as there was so so sooo much shit that was pulled on Bill to make sure he didn’t do well. Even Geoff had mentioned a few of them. They played dirty to beat Bill as, and this is from Geoff himself, they knew they didn’t have a chance if they didn’t play dirty, and dirty they indeed played. Don’t get me wrong, JP was a great strongman, but Bill was on a different level. Take care Pa! Love your videos!!
I genuinely feel strongman can discuss about steroid usage but it can affect their reputation to compete and get sponsorships. In summary their livelyhood will be affected just by doing that. However at the rate we are going, I have a feeling strongman will slowly become open about every aspect (programming, recovery, steroid protocol,etc). All in all people like Pa and Evan should be there to occasionally stir some trouble XD.
Be interested to know your views on the current WSM show. Seems they’re going backwards in regards to advertising and hype. Still is the main event for me but others are catching up. I feel WSM seems to be falling behind in the way they promote it now.
Tom's saying he has a disc issue that's causing nerve problems. Isn't doing Glasgow, but is going to do Rogue. If you were his coach and his issues were as he says, would you suggest he sits out the rest of the year?
Samson was known for his strength and his hair. Do you think all the current bald strongmen should fly to Turkey for hair transplants to improve their strength.
The only event Mitch is weak in is Stones: even though he’s good at Stones, he’s not one of the best like Tom and Trey. But, knowing Mitch, he’ll practice the Stones to death and become one of the best in time.
Of all the athlete's that so far haven't yet won a World's title (eg Trey, Evan, Luke etc) , who do you think has the best shot at becoming Champion? For me Trey seems to be with a good chance. Many thanks and all the best.
What are your thoughts on what the battle between Tom and Mitch will be like now since Tom has changed coaches and reduced the amount of comps to only focus on the bigger ones like Mitch has done?
Some thoughts: re: bit tom's coach, look at it from his point of view too, if you've got someone who is no longer responding to your input, then it's right for him to move on too. If you had a time-machine, you could take thor back to show him double-dipping. I will always laugh at the non-flattering pictures moving slowly into frame. How contrived do you think the thor/eddie beef is, because let's be honest, they've not done bad out of it financially.
@@eladrio2311 based on best year performance. Z has close to 100 top 3 performances in a row with only one 4th place in between. That is the most ridiculous strongman stat out there.
@@guerodanyo the gist of this specific discussion is each athlete at his best. Not the best over the years. I was just stating what Hooper said in a video tho
12:45 where do we get them from at all at all? Absolute tripe that conclusion. Given an age gap of 15 years or more with the other guys it's impossible to say but Z went up against a "prime" Brian countless times.
Nothing is more anoyying than when people talk about all time great strongman and Eddie is included. Hes not even a top 20 of all time. That doesnt take away from his insane static strength...but he wasnt an elite strongman.
Tom Stoltman only being able to win WSM and not any other big competitions is not a good look, especially after the certain phone call with Luke Stoltman where it seems like they're getting some special treatment from the guys that run WSM & Giants Live.
Strongman is about being the strongest man on EARTh period. It doesn't matter how you get their. Half the people can't even bench or squat or deadlift their own body weight without taking a pre-workout let alone trying to the strongest man on earth. Get real it's a competition of the best of the best.
How important to you is gut health, and what do you do to help your gut, as I just eat bananas 1 day a month to powerwash the intestines, clean me out as it makes me stomach feel great, gives me energy, whats your thoughts.
Tom has still been ok, even in bad comps hes setting new PBs. Hes still improving. Its just hes losing to someone who will go down as one of the best strongman ever.
Absolutely right Toms Autism is his super power, I’m pleased to see he’s working with a different coach, that’s no reflection on Dan but if anyone can beat Hooper it will be Tom but only Tom at his best. He’s not 3 x WSM for no reason. What Tom has said is his body can’t recover as quickly, so because of the break from Rogue to WSM he is at his best. Hooper on the other hand can do a competition every week and it doesn’t affect him. Great podcast by the way 👍
Christ the infantilism required to be a grown man who says they hate Giants Live because they did bad things to his Thor. It’s like the shaw fanboys. It’s weird as fk behaviour for any actual grown man. Anyone above 12 years old infact. But that’s where we are now.
@@geoffreykeating8172 You are right, Eddie was much better on overhead press. but that had nothing to do with that years wsm title. I analyzed and watch that wsm so much. it was the squats. 1 more squat for thor and nobody could do anything to stop thor winning. so his legs were not up to the task that year. cheers :)
Mitch uses tricks and cheats his fans say he is just being smarter, do you want to find the sneakiest strong man in the world? or the strongest? because Mitch is all about finding ways of doing events differently from everyone else just for the win, instead of doing the same as everyone else so we can find the strongest, if you want to find the strongest? smarter stricter rules need to be applied for all events and comps.
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I heard that Thor's calorie intake is being questioned as his dad was weighing his plates
Lmao
Home kitchen hero
Tor?
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Bravo Sir, Bravo 😂
You hit the nail on the head with the steroids response. The only way you're gonna get any strength athlete to talk to you about steroid use. Is if you have become good enough in your sport without them and you get the connection to have that VERY SERIOUS conversation of taking the next step.
Apparently people won't share dorito's salsa with Thor due to double dipping
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Actually great answers, i am surprised by u Pa, subscribed and enjoying it from now on!
Surprised huh 😂 thank you
“Your sister will end up on only fans for $4.99 a month” 😂😂😂 Holy shit!! Big love Pa. Never change. Great video.
Tom is doing the right thing right now. He's got an actual injury, and taking a step back an recover is what anyone whould do in his position.
love the responses 🤣 epic. Big love from Western Northern Ireland!
For the steroid response, you are entirely right. People will blindly follow what someone is doing, at the expense of their health. It is better to assume there are users than confirm which opens up a whole different issue.
If you could cast a tv show like The Strongest Man In History. Which 4 strongman would you pick?
Mitch, Luke S, Evan Singleton and Eddie Williams perfect people for new version of the tv show as they have great personalities
There is nothing that Big Z couldn't do! It was amazing to see him win a max weight static event and then win some type of death medley right after!
Thor did have a weakness and still does, his grip. He's known for having a bad grip.
Z and Hooper clearly winning the log when Eddie is in the mix? I think not, Eddie still has some of the strongest shoulders in the world now even after retirement! In his prime he was one of THE strongest pressers on the planet! Z is the all time GOAT for log press though, the man was unbelievable!
Eddie's weakness was moving events, as were Brian's. That's where the likes of Hooper and Jon Pall would take them.
It would be awesome to see with a time machine but alas it will never be and all we can do is talk about what we think would happen so no one is "right".
Great video and agree 100% about the steroids, just stfu about it! 👍👍
Hey Pa, with both Eddie & Brian heavily involved in arm wrestling what other divergent sports do you strong people could do? TBH I just want to see those 2 have some sort diet off down to 120KGs now they're both retired.
Tom is 3x WSM but he can be so much more, his ceiling is incredibly high and stepping outside of his comfort zone like he’s done, albeit challenging, will be an impetus for growth. As we all know, Mitch has the foundations and applications behind him, as well as the consistency, Tom has got to feel that pressure and it seems like he has and is responding to it, fairplay to the bigman, this generations Big Z and Brian Shaw👌👊
Mitch uses tricks and cheats his fans say he is just being smarter, do you want to find the sneakiest strong man in the world? or the strongest? because Mitch is all about finding ways of doing events differently from everyone else just for the win, instead of doing the same as everyone else so we can find the strongest, if you want to find the strongest? smarter stricter rules need to be applied for all events and comps.
@@Ian-if2lf bro you are tripping, he’s not sneaky lol, the guys a machine regardless of stuff like the split jerk technique, he competes in every competition and stays competing, you’re literally downplaying everyone else by saying he’s sneaky or whatever, his dedication to the sport is at an extremely high level and he is one of the strongest also, it’s not that hard to understand, all the other competitors know it so don’t be a hater.
@@declanconnelly1047 The what? You mean split jerk if I'm correct.
@@JeffO- lol yes exactly, dunno where my head was at earlier 😂
@@declanconnelly1047 Well edited , but I said nothing about split jerk v strict press in my comment? where did i say that? I never said anything like that!, (although since you bring it up it uses completely different mechanics so can't be used as like for like strength which should be the point? right?) . no I am referring to using your lap to rest the handle bar on for a ''grip strength WR'' or doing good mornings instead of the squats you were measured for earlier .. so you don't have to do what everyone else does in order to measure the same strength?. its about strength is it not? not supposed to be about tricks and cheating.
You are right about steroids it shouldn't be encouraged I think food and training is the way and creatine, pre workout as well especially if you are 50 like me
I understand why people dont talk about steriods for reasons you mentioned, plus others.
The real issue is that kids and ignoran tpeople think they can win the olympia, set records in PL, or win arm wrestling and strongman competitions natural... which they can't. Then they start and go too far and do something stupid, which harms them forever.
I think a slight openness is important. By the way, Thor has actually said he took roids(obviously) but didn't give a timeframe or specifics. he just answered the question with a simple "yes".
Powerlifters and bodybuilders do discuss their exact cycles now Pa. It’s just part of the game now it seems. I agree with you but it’s never been so wide open with what the pros use regarding gear.
Really? What do the pros use then if it’s so widely known?
@@paodwyer__
Bodybuilding: Tren, Anavar, Halotest, winstrol, test enanthate pre-contest
Off-season mainly Test cypionate and deca durabolin
Powerlifters hammer the orals during the last few weeks of their competition prep by using halotest, anadrol, and d-bol Tbry also mainly use straight test cypionate in the off season. For the guys that do t want to gain weight they stay away from anadrol and d-bol and might use winstrol at times
@@paodwyer__ you erased my response 🤣🤣🤣
Pa, speak about the death of Big Lenny the bodybuilding ICON
Sad news. The Delray Misfits were the bollocks back in the day. I'd be interested if Pa's ever watched.
What would the ideal strongman show be for you in terms of events and if you had them which current strongmen do you still think you'd struggle to beat?
When is your comeback show?
Dungeon Strength RX is building an AI program to answer these what if questions. Its the gym Lucas Hatton is associated with
Gotta get Kaz in the time machine as well. Personally I think Kaz is the one person from back in the day that given the modern advancement in, well everything since then, that he would a podium finisher against anyone from today. JP would be in that conversation as well. But personally I think prime Bill beats prime JP all day long. Hell in 1988 JP was in his prime, and Kaz was a few years past his best with a lot of injuries that took a hell of a toll on him and his performances. And yet against the odds Bill being past his prime very nearly beat JP in his prime. A prime Bill would have definitely beaten JP. (And can’t go by the results on Pure Strength ‘87 as there was so so sooo much shit that was pulled on Bill to make sure he didn’t do well. Even Geoff had mentioned a few of them. They played dirty to beat Bill as, and this is from Geoff himself, they knew they didn’t have a chance if they didn’t play dirty, and dirty they indeed played. Don’t get me wrong, JP was a great strongman, but Bill was on a different level.
Take care Pa!
Love your videos!!
Nobody can openly talk about it because of the legal issues in other countries (US).
I genuinely feel strongman can discuss about steroid usage but it can affect their reputation to compete and get sponsorships. In summary their livelyhood will be affected just by doing that. However at the rate we are going, I have a feeling strongman will slowly become open about every aspect (programming, recovery, steroid protocol,etc). All in all people like Pa and Evan should be there to occasionally stir some trouble XD.
Strange question Pa, if Thor record isn’t official due to not being at a Comp does that mean Tom’s Stone doesn’t count or different situations?
Did you fall out with Glenn Ross? Would you compete in any of his future shows?
Tom, Brian, Big Z, Marius, Magnus Ver, Jon Pall, Kaz
Hooper
@@paodwyer__he ain't won 3+ wsm titles, there the 7 above who've won more thay 3 titles
@@paodwyer__ I was just completing the list of 3x winners; sorry, I should have said. Hooper will be on that list before long.
If you had said time machine, which era would you like to go back and compete in? Maybe against Kaz? lol
Be interested to know your views on the current WSM show. Seems they’re going backwards in regards to advertising and hype. Still is the main event for me but others are catching up. I feel WSM seems to be falling behind in the way they promote it now.
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Rogue livestreams the arnold and rogue free on youtube
Are there any u105's you reckon could break into the open at the top level?
Tom's saying he has a disc issue that's causing nerve problems. Isn't doing Glasgow, but is going to do Rogue. If you were his coach and his issues were as he says, would you suggest he sits out the rest of the year?
Rogue isn’t easy either
@@AlejandroSanchez-pl6jw nope. Can only imagine it's for the Rogue pay cheque
I really love you buddy you are very funny and were do people get these question really lol
Giants live kicks ass. Pa too
Samson was known for his strength and his hair. Do you think all the current bald strongmen should fly to Turkey for hair transplants to improve their strength.
The only event Mitch is weak in is Stones: even though he’s good at Stones, he’s not one of the best like Tom and Trey. But, knowing Mitch, he’ll practice the Stones to death and become one of the best in time.
Of all the athlete's that so far haven't yet won a World's title (eg Trey, Evan, Luke etc) , who do you think has the best shot at becoming Champion? For me Trey seems to be with a good chance. Many thanks and all the best.
Arnold classic and rogue stream live on UA-cam
Geoff Capes is a shotput hero. Barring Mitch, which current strongman do you think could be at an elite level in an Olympic sport?
Pav, Nov,
What are your thoughts on what the battle between Tom and Mitch will be like now since Tom has changed coaches and reduced the amount of comps to only focus on the bigger ones like Mitch has done?
Some thoughts: re: bit tom's coach, look at it from his point of view too, if you've got someone who is no longer responding to your input, then it's right for him to move on too. If you had a time-machine, you could take thor back to show him double-dipping. I will always laugh at the non-flattering pictures moving slowly into frame. How contrived do you think the thor/eddie beef is, because let's be honest, they've not done bad out of it financially.
Would you hire Colin Bryce and Eddie Williams as a wedding band?
Not sure about Eddie but def Colin
I imagine Gav could belt out a Tom Jones number or two
Pa is the MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!
👍
12:43 that guy is out of his head......Brian in his prime wasn't winning everything because he was competing against Big Z.
To hear that someone thinks that Big Z would come last in a competition with all the best is crazy!! Z is the undesputed GOAT
Mitch Hooper has said that he picks peak Thor over peak zydrunas
@@eladrio2311 based on best year performance. Z has close to 100 top 3 performances in a row with only one 4th place in between. That is the most ridiculous strongman stat out there.
@@guerodanyo the gist of this specific discussion is each athlete at his best. Not the best over the years. I was just stating what Hooper said in a video tho
Have you had any progress on convincing Hicks to go for 505 at his own gym?
I haven’t unfortunately 🥲 he’s started prep tho and seems happy so it’s all good
12:45 where do we get them from at all at all? Absolute tripe that conclusion. Given an age gap of 15 years or more with the other guys it's impossible to say but Z went up against a "prime" Brian countless times.
Nothing is more anoyying than when people talk about all time great strongman and Eddie is included. Hes not even a top 20 of all time. That doesnt take away from his insane static strength...but he wasnt an elite strongman.
Tom Stoltman only being able to win WSM and not any other big competitions is not a good look, especially after the certain phone call with Luke Stoltman where it seems like they're getting some special treatment from the guys that run WSM & Giants Live.
Z won 8 Arnolds. These guys dont know what they talking about. He is the static beast of all time
Strongman is about being the strongest man on EARTh period. It doesn't matter how you get their. Half the people can't even bench or squat or deadlift their own body weight without taking a pre-workout let alone trying to the strongest man on earth. Get real it's a competition of the best of the best.
How important to you is gut health, and what do you do to help your gut, as I just eat bananas 1 day a month to powerwash the intestines, clean me out as it makes me stomach feel great, gives me energy, whats your thoughts.
It is not a competition lift he did it in his gym why is this even in question?
Yeah my sister maybe will do onlyfans some day, nevertheless she knows more about strongman than colin bryce.
I like fish
Tom has still been ok, even in bad comps hes setting new PBs. Hes still improving.
Its just hes losing to someone who will go down as one of the best strongman ever.
What pbs ?
What weakness does Mitch have?
Pudz Shaw big Z Tom Kaz and John Paul
Kids all know that strength athletes do steroids. I don’t think you’re sparing them from anything.
Strongman X takes 7 steroids per week, I'm only 12 so if I take 10 per week I'll be the best ever by time I'm 15!
-average american male
Absolutely right Toms Autism is his super power, I’m pleased to see he’s working with a different coach, that’s no reflection on Dan but if anyone can beat Hooper it will be Tom but only Tom at his best. He’s not 3 x WSM for no reason. What Tom has said is his body can’t recover as quickly, so because of the break from Rogue to WSM he is at his best. Hooper on the other hand can do a competition every week and it doesn’t affect him. Great podcast by the way 👍
Thank you Pa
try not to get banned Pa as im one of many who love your content.
Il try 😂
Christ the infantilism required to be a grown man who says they hate Giants Live because they did bad things to his Thor. It’s like the shaw fanboys. It’s weird as fk behaviour for any actual grown man. Anyone above 12 years old infact. But that’s where we are now.
What gets me is that people are still going on and on about this. It's been 4 years! Everyone else has moved on.
@@espenstoroPeople still talk about things that happened 7 years ago. It gets so boring. Almost as if they don't realise the world keeps going.
Eddie clearly beat Thor on overhead press , reps were cleaner and with better form , and Eddie probably had an 1 or 2 reps in the tank back in the day
@@geoffreykeating8172 You are right, Eddie was much better on overhead press. but that had nothing to do with that years wsm title. I analyzed and watch that wsm so much. it was the squats. 1 more squat for thor and nobody could do anything to stop thor winning. so his legs were not up to the task that year. cheers :)
@@ambruszoltan752 Is that why Thor is mad at Giants Live ?
Mitch uses tricks and cheats his fans say he is just being smarter, do you want to find the sneakiest strong man in the world? or the strongest? because Mitch is all about finding ways of doing events differently from everyone else just for the win, instead of doing the same as everyone else so we can find the strongest, if you want to find the strongest? smarter stricter rules need to be applied for all events and comps.
I just look at Tom's last 5 WSM performances
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