Celtic's loss to Hearts, Scottish refereeing standards and Livingston preview | The Huddle Breakdown
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- Enda, James and Alan look back on Celtic's loss to Hearts at the weekend, the impact of refereeing decisions on the game, Liel Abada's departure from the club and they look ahead to the Livingston cup match this weekend.
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Amazing how many dirty wain raping fenions are deluded watching this utter small time pish
Maeda actually sparked off about 4 hearts attacks - he was atrocious - frustrating how Iwata gets slaughtered by many and maeda gets off so light
Not on The Huddle Breakdown does Maeda ''get off so light'' & particularly when dear old Alan Morrison is around & there's nothing that dear old Alan likes more is than to have a good old fashioned scoff & a chuckle when speaking of Maeda's huge big whopping frailties & weaknesses & for me this enthused scoffing & chuckling on dear old Alan's part is very similar to the scoffing & chuckling that used to go on when Mickey The Mole was still at Ibrokes & we were seven/eight points clear at the top back in October & then the sacking came...
Nah he can’t have been. I heard Celtic were amazing and it was only due to the corruption of the fraternity of Scottish masonic refereeing which screwed you over again. Crazy they never done it during the quadruple treble. What a ruse.
I love the disgust from the welt on the left. Dry your eyes mate 😂
I will admit the penalty we got was probably quite lucky considering the player was unaware the ball hit his arm. But under IFAB 12.3, Yang's red card was definitely the right decision. Whether or not he actually hit Cochrane in the face, the way he lunged when challenging for the ball is definitely considered serious foul play and he had to go.
Hearts pressed Celtic really well, not letting them get comfortable and Celtic at times really struggled to get out of their own half. Even more so when Celtic switched to a 4-3-2 and became even narrower, so playing out just wasn't happening for them. Hearts managed the game really well.
As for the "horrible" Hearts jibe, I would say it was a pretty even game, Celtic created better chances but never took them, Hearts did and I think aside from the extra man, that was the big difference. And a bit more tongue in cheek, can't be that horrible if the third best team have beaten you twice already this season :)
Cochrane "threw his head and Yang's foot". Sounds like if anything, the foul was committed by Cochrane on Yang's studs. Were the studs ok? :)
Excellent discussion as always. Rather than reflect on the poor decision making in the Hearts game, the Scottish Senior Football Referees Association complains about 'disproportionate criticism' of the officials. The Scottish Football authorities want to live in a world whereby they are beyond any criticism. The obvious problem here is that as a consequence there is no learning from the 'honest mistakes' the officials make week in and week out. Same old bias every year.
Only one red card and one penalty conceded by celtic this season and the fans say there is a conspiracy. The entitlement is pathetic.
@@juicybear7696 How many penalties have been given to you lot over the last two seasons and how many against? There is a clear pattern for those of us who can count.
Just like Celtic. You lot think your so entitled how dare any team beat you!
@@paulwilson2651 Did you watch the game? If you think that there was no problem with the decision making at the match, then you must be related to one of the officials.
@@redtim3690 Yes and I watched you lose even with you being given a Penalty that wasn't and Shankland goal needlessly chalked off. The ref should have just put on a Celtic top. and if you can't see the bias towards both of the bigot brothers then better go to spec savers.
Alan, please stop explaining how overrated Naismith is as a manager or he'll never get the Ibrox job 🙊😁
Never want JUDAS at Ibrox. Ffs. U on the Glue
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I wonder how Alan and James would fare identifying players from leagues for Celtic
Hot off the press, Yang appeal rejected. Knew it would be 😡
OBVIOUSLY ! ITS A STONE WALL RED CARD 😂😂THE OFFICIAL
I had no doubt it was ever going to be rescinded. The cash prize for winning this title has galvanized all the Ludge men in the SPL and the SFA to act in unison for their heros in blue.
Why would any proper Scot support a club like Septic?
Started by a kiddie fiddling monk and a supporter of local and international terrorism.
Can't even acknowledge they are British.
@@den264 Ffs Stop Crying. Your Team R Pish. 🎻🎻🎻🎻😂😂😂🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Loving the greeting fkrs.
1. Which Scottish Premiership side has had the most penalties this season?
2. Which Scottish Premiership side has had the least penalties awarded against them?
3. Which Scottish Premiership side has had the least red cards?
4. Which Scottish Premiership side has had the fewest yellow cards?
5. Which Scottish Premiership side has conceded the fewest fouls?
6. Which Scottish Premiership side is allowed to commit around double the fouls of any other team before they get a booking?
7. Which Scottish Premiership side was awarded a league title before the league was completed?
8. Which Scottish Premiership side got the winter break moved to allow them to bring in new players?
9. Which Scottish Premiership side was able to force their rivals to play 4 games in a week by pretending they were going to Japan?
10. Which Scottish Premiership side thinks there is a conspiracy against them?
Agree with Edna here and hope I am wrong, Iwata is a decent utility man but he's not the answer to improve that midfield in holding role for me, just lacks the overall quality, technique, awareness and ball winning.
when did Jota become Zzzhou-ta?
Our game shape and formation / pressing/ countering all needs 11 players - Yang off and maeda being shite we are basically fkd
Celtic were awarded a penalty, that wasn’t a penalty. Despite being wrongly awarded this penalty the Celtic player missed it. Then, a Celtic player kicks an opponent in the face and gets himself sent off. You need to stop making excuses and just admit your team was outplayed. Hearts deserved the win.
Weasel
Pop went that weasel!!
Glue sniffer 💀
Ur luck will run out like it did under Neilson.
Teams are missing every chance against u and Shankland is scoring every half chance.
A lot of Hearts fans have been calling this out but some are now getting carried away by these short term results.
Funny how you miss out the non penalty against Celtic 🧟
Great show lads
"Great" you mean bitter!
Great show by the Hearts.
Pumpin the smelly bead rattlers
@@paulwilson2651MELT! 💀
@@geordiewishart1683Another MELT! 🤣😭
enjoyable
Empty seats galore yet we are given a paltry 500 odd tickets
BTW if Hearts ever fall into financial trouble (again) i will laugh very loudly
Sad indictment of Scottish football. Kilmarnock do it to, and obviously the buns .
We're you seething aye? 😂
@@Mugwa1874weasel
Not everyone can make a lunch time kickoff on a Sunday
In a population off 5mill in a protestant country, there is simply no way to avoiding built in bias. Nevertheless the standard off referee's needs to be elevated. Football is a game of rules, getting people to understand them is the problem Pundits should go on a course to learn VAR rules, they talk rubbish about decisions they do not understand.
A solution would be to explain what rule the ref was referencing when making a decision. Handball rule, reckless play, penalty rules, explain the decision and make things simpler. Calm down the hysterics from twiter.
You got gubbed get over it always cheated never defeated eh. Celtic are bringing our game into disrepute, if you lot aren't happy with the Scottish set up then p off to Ireland then.
Same red card as the st mirren player on hart. So very recently not nani back in 2007 lol. Absolutely terrible misleading commentary.
Comparing a standing flick vs a straight leg challenge with horizontal movement is ridiculous.
@@malone13 both reds so
Different challenge
@@emeraldabroad2771 and appeal failed so
What's it like to be such a bitter angry wee person?@@juicybear7696
Once again a huge big well done to The Huddle Breakdown for NOT going completely down the VAR rabbit hole, although you did teeter a wee bit as you looked down into it & for a second or two & I thought you were indeed going to take the plunge, but thankfully you didn't, simply because the two penalties awarded were never ever penalties & our cardinal sin was missing ours & it was a ''poor'' penalty & as they ALWAYS are when you don't score, whilst Yang's Bruce Lee impression with his studs right up at head height is ALWAYS going to leave you susceptible to a red card for ''dangerous play'' when the match referee takes a wee look at the VAR replay & so it duly happened & Shankland's ''offside'' goal was all down to that wee toenail of his in an offside position!!!!!!
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Genuinely, and I mean this with the upmost sincerity…the salty tears from the septic tank on the left are DELICIOUS!!! Crying into his Kyogo pillow about horrible Hearts beating his team, who have a gigantic player budget in comparison to Hearts, yet still got beat…then WHOOSH the toys go out the pram and all manner of paranoid conspiracy rubbish is used as justification. The Celtic pen was a foul on Cochrane IT WAS A TERRIBLE DECISION. The red card was a red card, his studs were in his face ffs…and as for the Hearts pen, under the current rules it WAS A PEN. Keep up the salty tears though, it’s highly entertaining watching you cry about losing to disgusting Hearts.
The facts dont lie ! John William Beaton awarded Rangers six of their twelve penalties two seasons ago. John William Beaton saved Rangers faces when they went down two goals to one against Aberdeen with only minutes remaining. Sakala headbutts the Aberdeen keepers knee and big Billy Beaton immediately points to the penalty spot.
John Kennedy has been around long enough to know that after Rangers lost on Saturday, the two referees of Don Robertson and John William Beaton would be looking for anything to get their heros out of jail. The entire team should have been told. No high boots, no touching maroon jerseys in their box, no high elbows. No back chatting the ref.
Mentioning Beaton's middle name without need is a form of sectarianism.
Always cheated never defeated, the celtic way
Least we’ve no asked for the audio footage 😂😂….. glass houses and all that
Horrible people
@@jordaneasson3910 they have asked for the audio footage lol.
Probably no real change in what's needed, basically needing to now win every game. If we beat Hearts and lost against them then we'd probably be in trouble, the only real difference is we now likely need to take more points in the games against them vs getting away with draws.
But what it does do is add to the concern about any of that being achievable.
For me, the game was lost before a ball was even kicked when we named our three in midfield up against their FIVE & our little three most sadly were & are, not only physically weak, but mentally weak too & so then going in at half time a goal down & ''elite'' Brenda then deciding to replace one of these physically & mentally weak three with Kyogo & in so doing, our defeat from the moment that decision was made by the ''elite'' Brenda, was totally guaranteed & so for the history books, only yet another snatching certain defeat from the jaws of just maybe a hard fought score draw...
@@frankbrennan1619Nah, Celtic were just cheated mate. Have you not read the M.O?
@@Gunn27 ''Elite'' Brenda cost us, NOT grossly incompetent referees.
Yet we've lost to them twice in a row without scoring. And twice to Kilmarnock. Miss a penalty and pay the penalty.
Refereeing was poor but for me scales was really poor the penalty incident was a very poor clearance header from him balls goes higher than distance 2nd goal again a diabolical header from scales
Great show guys
great chat guys,
to jj's hobby, celtic only 59% win probability in the markets against hearts, and all other outcomes combined were 41%. 10% mean error , is enough for variance to strike , and it did. the net xg differential suggested celtic were above the danger zone of 1.5 , but the market was more pessimistic.
by the way, i am finding net xg differentials home and away adjusted with mean error, a better predictor of outcomes in the epl, than some of the algorithms used in the markets. an idea for jj to investigate to improve profitability.
a lot of moaning and carping online from celtic fans about the refs and var, but there is an alternative narrative re the outcome.
it took celtic 40 minutes from the red to get some unambiguous momentum in the game , and they won the final 30 minutes with 10 men.
for me rodgers bottled it .
2 subs used , palma and holm left on the bench . kyogo on was the right punch to throw , but whatever we think of palma , he still has the highest attacking contribution numbers in the squad , other than idah who hasnt played enough minutes to get a fix on him. Palmas super power is his right foot, and we will never know whether idah could have got on the end of that. the counter argument would be , about defense, but palmas defensive numbers are up there, nothing ventured nothing gained.
other mind boggling tactical mis calculation was watching orily fetching and carrying from within celtics half , too often in the 2nd half . rodgers should have switched him to loiteriing in hearts final third , but alas there he was playing rodgers rotation game . as it was orily created 6 chances , could have been more with some tweaks. orily stays higher for longer celtic win .
all well and good for rodgers to come out swinging at the post match presser , but the time for throwing punches were in those last 30 minutes , with mini game tactics , instead we got deer in the headlights stuff. the man was rattled and the post match presser pretty much confirmed it .
If Celtic had scored their soft penalty , they would have went into overdrive . Bottom line it looked as if they bottled it .
The masons are out to get us. 😂😂 Brendan is a joke face facts.
We should have gone 4-4-1 after the sending off and just shore it up and go solid until the 60 min mark then switch it to the 4-3-2 but hindsight and all that but i did say it at the time.
I totally agree with you on this, but the fact is some supporters think that, The Celtic Way is the only way to play, we got booed of the pitch after winning the game, because we didn’t play The Celtic Way, 🤷🏻♂️
so basically all positive variance against dundee and all negative variance against hearts. it's on brendan to balance this out so far he's proven he can't. he should walk for this reason.
No. Brenda Must Stay. 😂😂😂🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
When Olesanya was sent off for kicking Joe Hart in the face in the 3 - 0 win at St Mirren, everyone agreed that there was no intent to injure. Joe even gave him a hug! But it was dangerous. He had to go. Same goes for Yang.
When Rangers appealed their red card to the SFA we all laughed and mocked. And yet here we are doing the same thing.
I'm sticking a tenner on Livi and Hibs to progress to the semis.
The officials lost the plot. That first half was madness. It was as if at halftime the officials had a few anxiety pills. The Iwata handball is just terrifying. I’m not even angry. What on Earth were they thinking?
Yangs red card was correct so
@@juicybear7696no it wasn't
@@emeraldabroad2771 yep, appeal rejected so
Idah missing the penalty, wasnt a penalty. Couldnt do mich against us, won 2-0. Rangers have went from 8 points behind to being 2 points clear. Come on to fuck guys
there was a stonewall pen just before that, not given, not even looked at (Cochrane hand ball, clear as day) so they def should have had a pen, just not the one that was given.
Goldson, SEVCOs second keeper has hand balled in the area 4 times this season, not once has it gone to var.😂😂😂. Iwata’s hand ball, Beaton was on var. 100% var was getting involved.
Moon howlers
Rotten to the core, the disciplinary procedure needs to be rewritten, what chance have you got against that lot that run scottish football.
The paranoia runs deep I this Celtic echo chamber. One loss and it's the referees fault. 2-0 that's thee only number that's important statman.
The referee made the right decision till beaton got involved it stinks ov cheating
But why didn’t the ref not stick with his initial decision? Really baffling.
@@michaelfern4079 did not have the balls to go against his cheating friend
Michael once var sends him to the screen he then has to overturn the var decision which puts him under pressure - Beaton drives the cheat and effectively dares Robertson to side with the Tims,
My guess is he saying - we have a chance to get them here - Don confirms
@@ruaraidhmorrison5879proper weasel
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Spangles.
Thank goodness for this channel . I thought I was going mad watching other Celtic podcasts blaming the team and Rodgers. The officiating was totally incompetent or something more sinister. That’s why we lost this game.
Rubbish you lost because your man missed a penalty which shouldn't have been. Hearts had a perfectly good goal by Shankland chalked off and all those minutes added on. Celtic are becoming embarrassing. Explain why Rodgers said live on TV that the St Mirren player deserved to be sent off against you yet he's trotting out that age old nonsense "They're all against us it's not fair"
@@paulwilson2651 you’re right of course . What was I thinking?
You lost Cause Brendas lost the plot. Teams pish.imo 😂😂😂🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@@davidhutcheson2609 then maybe you’ll beat us one day . Rodgers - lost one derby in 15.
@@johnsteel9781 Well if Brendas Saying. Hes Very Happy with His players performance Against Hearts. Thats What he said.Then that will do for me. Celic were outplayed Easy by Hearts. No Bite. No Agression. No Desire. Name me 3 Players Who got pass marks?? So if Hes Defending that. Then that will do for me. 56 Incoming imo 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Celtic's penalty was similar to a few given this season, where the attacker dives in-between the defender and ball and gets a penalty. I'm sure the first one given, was for the rangers v killie near the beginning of the season, where cantwell done what yang did. so maybe they are trying to be consistent. lol. or more likely what Alan hinted towards and what we all know.
You’re acting like its incomprehensible that you’re team can lose a game. Get a grip of yourselves. Showing a lack of respect for others as usual. Shameful.
That's in your head
Celtic fans canny take a loss
Wrong, don't accept cheating officials
Ur luck will run out like it did under Neilson, over performing every aspect and teams are missing every chance
Scales ,Maeda ,Bernardo , Taylor and Iwata are just not good enough moving forward!
Very sloppy and beaton pounced on us
Its far from over, HAIL HAIL Lads 🍀 👦 🙌 🙏
OMG - don't let the old guy speak! Jucko is the only one that talks sense on here!
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💯 RED CARD, PRETENDING ITS NOT IS EMBARRASSING 😅 BOTH PENALTIES ARE SOFT , SCALES PLAYED ON SHANKLAND, THAT'S THE TRUTH
Weasel
Bhoys if wee go out the scottiah cup rogers needs to go he needs to go anyway for me thease players have no confidence and that lies with the manager its his job to install that and he rogers has lost the plot everyone to blame but his team yang shouldnt have had his foot that high wee all know the refs and var cant wait to send off ower players none of the 2 pens where pens everyone says oh wee missed calmac am no buying that 11 men started the game this team are weaklings and rogers again is to blame for this