The Primarch Prophecy is coming TRUE?!
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- It seems the Prophecy of returning Primarchs is coming true one step at a time! This could be a big indication on which loyalists and traitor Primarch could return next...
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"We don't normally talk about..."
Guys, I think the two Valrak theory may have legs!
I am Valpharius
Valrak Dominatus.
Never seen them in the same room together....
Hydra Valranatus
Don’t normally talk about Primarchs returning? Is there some other Valrak channel I’ve been watching?
😅
😂😂😂
Immedietly thought "that's a f-in lie" and came to see the top comment
Tinfoil Valrak is a actor/twin confirmed
That voiceover is definitely worthy of a nominee for the Greggs Golden Sausage Roll award...
I always loved Cookie Monster
"A shadow rises to the call of the Allfather's messengers, a darkness that strikes from within". Corax?
Lorgar comes and Corax follows! OH BOY!
@@ChapterMasterValrakplease dear god GW🙏
@ChapterMasterValrak Lorgar returns to the setting:
Lorgar: "I have returned to finish the work of Horus, the imperium will tremble before me"
2 seconds later Corax shadow shifts in behind him and tears his head off
Corax: "Gotcha bitch!" 🤣
What suck is that corax is an emotional mess last we saw. He needs his brothers to put him back together. Especially his closest brother leamen russ. I hope they come back together. Like Odin and his raven kinda way.
HEll YEAH... SOMEONE ELSE READ THAT LINE PROPERLY AS WELL!!!
MY DAD IS FINALLY COMING BACK WITH THE MILK AND LO-STICKS HE WENT TO THE STORE FOR 10,000 YEARS AGO!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"VICTORUS AUT MORTIS"!
CA - KAW!! 🐦⬛🐦⬛🐦⬛
I think there is actually 3 Loyal Primarchs mentioned in that speech. "A shadow rises to the call of the Allfathers Messengers," In Norse mythology the Allfather, Odin, had Ravens who were his messengers, what is the Latin for Raven? Corvus! "a darkness that strikes from within." What is the current state of a certain Raven themed Primarch? a shadowy "demon" who can strike from within an enemies base of operations.
Not to tread on anyone's tails, but what if GW threw Corax out there instead of Russ around the time of a Space Wolf refresh? Corax could be the "messenger" from Russ saying that he has completed his quest and is on the journey home, maybe with other forces in toe, just ask the King in Yellow.
That makes even more sense! Amazing!
@@ChapterMasterValrak I dunno what it is with me an Ravens, but I can always find connections to them in cryptic messages like this. Maybe it's a sign, maybe I'm not a son of Dorn or Sangunius, but a child of Shadow and Stealth, a son of Corax.
Then again, I love bikes and if The Khan returned with loads of new fast attack units, I'd hop on one and ride to war with him.
I haven’t finished the video … but did Valrak NOT mention Corvus after jaghatai? It’s obvious they are talking about 3 Primarchs
@@AbuJordyn Yup, that's what I pointed out. It's exciting to think that Jaghatai and Corax could be on the way.
@@madmerlinsart still makes it 4 loyalist vs 5 traitor
Should the next returned Primarch is Ferrus Mannus, Everyone will loose their heads
If that's how people will react if Ferrus returns, they'll riot if Sanguinius ever comes back. Lol
Lose
As much as I want the Khan back. Ferrus coming back or at least being confirmed as the "head" of the legion of the damned would be pretty satisfying.
@@bosstoa154 Saint Gwinny ain't never coming back, unless it's another contrived "clone" storyline like Fulgrim. Tbh, with all the resurrections and red herrings of late, this is all starting to feel dangerously close to WWE... 🙄
@@Deletirium Bah gawd its Ferrus Manus with a steel chair!!
Jaghatai Khan would be the PERFECT next loyalist primarch to return in response to Fulgrim. Not only because of their interactions during 30k, but also because of the Eldar/Dark Eldar ties that connect them both.
One is ON Speed the other IS Speed
Makes sense as well since the last thing we know about Jahhatai is that he chased the Dark Eldar into the Webway. Vashtor and Abby are jet setting through the Webway as well so they can tie it all together easily enough
Idea. Eldar are fighting Fulgrim. Bobby G goes to help. They start losing. Webway portal at their back randomly opens. They think they are screwed. When suddenly Mongolian Throat Singing
Jaghatai isent big on theatrics. He would pop out end the threat, then ask why Guilliman has their father's sword.
@huntergallatin6758 well, hes been in the webway with the dark eldar for a bit, who knows.
That’d go so hard though, holy Terra!
Straight goosebumps
With a Dark Eldar succubus hanging onto him like a biker gf.
But seriously, what is it with the Primarchs being associated with the space elves?
Jaghatai returning to Roast Fulgrim again would be hilarious
That Space Wolf voice lasted 3 words. LOL. Great vid brother.
Jaghatai needs to come back, hes top 3 primarchs imo
"Remember your kids had cancer? Lol, lmao
1. Love the video
2. Valrak, you listen, and you listen good. As an American citizen, whose ancestors walked side by side with Abraham Lincoln, as we conquered England in 1945…I demand Pedro Kantor “MODEL” rumors.
This is the least I can do for you keeping it together once again for that Space Wolf Impression.
What a legend
Jaghatai coming back would be more interesting than Leman Russ.
agreed. need to save the best for last.
@@TurtlesOnIce nah i rather jagatai comes back earlier than Leman.
We will finally know if he was spreading his DNA trough commorach
Alexa play This Is Mongol by The HU
@kwmclovin......are you sure? Russ has been in the warp as long as corax I believe. What kind of new abilities has he discovered in the last 10k years? Has he grown and matured like the Lion? Imagine Russ coming back as a mixture of warp raven corax and wiser more mature Lion. Add some cool Vikings lore and a more tactical, controlled version of the space wolves and you could have one hell of a character.
I just want the Khan riding out of the webway on Drukari/Space Marine mashup bike. Looking like mf'ing Lobo would be fk'ing AWESOME!! 😁😂🤣
💪😎💪
There’s gonna be an armada of Khan/Dark Eldar kids. 😂
Imagine if after that many years down at the local torture garden/rubber club with the drukhari Jag came back in a black gimp suit with nipple chains 😂 that’d suck but also be hilarious. Amazon would love it
@@electricsheeeep 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Why was Valrak making ork voices when reading?
He's an Ork that believes he's a son of Dorn.
I still want Perturabo to be the next traitor Primarch to return, but with he twist. he never attained apotheosis, and in fact has rejected the God's gifts. so we have old man Perturabo, maybe ensconced in a Knight Scale Dreadnaught, having thoroughly rejected the Imperium and never going back, but also seeking to undermine the Gods, and seeing a chance through Vashtoor unbalancing the Great Game
Perturabo becomes true "chaos" in the literal sense of the word. Just mixing up the pot. That would be epic and hilarious.
He never really “left”. He attained Daemonhood and now just hangs out in his fortress on Mendrengard playing tabletop 40k.
@@Chris-hb2ib that is my whole idea though. He never did attain Daemonhood. It was all a lie to keep people away
Exept we know that as a primarch, even being 10,000 years old barely slows them down, thanks to the lion who aged with the passing of time, so i doubt he would be in any kind of dreadnaught situation.
Not to mention, time flows far differently in the eye of terror, wich is why many of the chaos characters who were there during the heresy (typhus, ahriman, kharne, lucius and abbadon) have barely aged. Its unlikely that even a few hundred years have passed from their perspectives.
@ but cool knight scale dread body!!!! Especially cause I want Dorn to cone back as a Dreadnaught body that was built originally for the Emperor as part of one of his gajillion stupid contingencies
The Khan is allowed to come back only if Chris Wraight writes the book and lore.
Same for Russ. Chris Wraight should be the designated writer for the Scars/Wolves
You gotta do space wolves as "swedish chef" from the muppets
Imagine if Corax and Russ have been working with one another in the warp. Odin Russ returns and later is joined by his partner in crime from the warp the Corax Raven. Would be awesome to see some teamwork out of the loyalist primarchs.
"A shadow rises to the call of the allfather's messengers, a darkness that strikes from within." This is about Ravenguard. In Norse mythology Odin (The All Father) has 2 ravens named Huginn and Muninn who bring information to him and relay messages, Ravenguard are also known for their ability to get behind the lines of the enemy and strike from within their formation. Also, shadow and darkness... ravenguard wear black.
It would be funny of the misbegotten child is actually guilliman. The space wolves do refer to guilliman as the legion breaker, its not him of course, but that would still be funny if it was.
Also would make sense about the White Scars jet bike rider rumor.
Mortarion, Lords of Silence book: ‘There are things I have seen, snatches of dreams that I never thought would be waked from. My brothers are stirring. You hear this? My brothers. Magnus revives his tedious old blood feud, but it will not end there. The few surviving loyal sons will be found again.’
This is one of the quotes in the book I was looking for. Something about all that can come back will come back. Thank you!
Khan literally has the highest probable possibility to return next.
Jaghatai coming back….maybe we get new bikes/landspeeders and jet bikes!! Outriders are not enough as they currently stand. This would boost ALL chapters but especially the White Scars and Dark Angels.
All I'm is that Primaris Pedro Cantor is confirmed
What a ln excellent name innit
After reading the HH, Jagatai is my favourite Primarch. I so want him back and active, to see how he'd react to the current Imperium. Would he return as an enemy of the Imperium without being part of Chaos?
The only primarchs that are dead for sure are: Ferrus Mannus, Sanguinius, Conrad Curze, Alpharius, and Horus Lupercal. The loyalists that COULD come back: Jagatai Khan, Leman Russ, Corvus Corax, Vulkan, and Rogal Dorn.
I do want the Kharn, but give me more Lion lore first.
Vashtorr:
Breaks into the webway.
Hears throat singing and a motorcycle.
It's getting louder..
I really hope the Khan is the next to return. Maybe we can finally get that fight with Fulgrim we never saw during the Heresy
The one line after the white storm on a chariot of lightning, talking about a shadow rising and a darkness striking from within, could that be referring to Corax? Since he’s known as a shadow demon thing and is currently within the warp?
I never thought I'd hear the Prophecy of the Primarch read in its original Scooby Doo....
The White Scars deserve more love! I will buy a book of his return the same day it's announced. Pair the Khan's return with brand new and reworked White Scars is just pure money especially with the rise in popularity I've been seeing with the White Scars purely on how based the Khan is.
Valrak that voice over sounds like your throat is experiencing the after effects of a bukake marathon with the Emperor's Children
I've been predicting the Khan would be the next to return since Arks of Omen. The ongoing storyline right now seems to be revolving around the Webway - the Lion's 'forest walk' ability seems to be a special use of the Webway, Vashtorr's whole plan in AoO was to build a Webway tunnelling device, and then Wyrmwood showed up in Pariah Nexus, again using the Webway. The narrative keeps returning to the Webway - and who do we know who was last seen there??
The Khan went after dark eldar in the webway, so if he came back they go do a range refresh for the white scars and include a dark eldar range refresh. Include it in a boxset even to lower costs etc.
That would be epic!
Whichever Primarch Games Workshop decides to bring back to setting as a miniature: “Father!… The sleeper has awakened!”
Oh boy... in The Wolftime there is this short passage, where rumors are mentioned that the Lion and the Khan are active again (I think it was by Logan Grimnar).
It came out before the AoO, the Lion was in fact back and since then, I'm waiting for the Khan to be announced.
I didn't remember the passage, I listened to the audiobook on vacation in Spain in the summer of 2023 and only later realized that the book was older than Arks of Omen.
It's Khan, not Kahn. Do you say Loin instead of Lion?
@@apark91 Typo corrected
10 millennia ago, Horus sent Lorgar up to bed with no dinner and he hasn't come back downstairs since
Jaghatai is a skilled hunter, who disappeared into the Webway. Karandras is a skilled hunter, who was left out of the Phoenix Lord model refresh. Perhaps the Striking Scorpion has been held back to coincide with Jaghatai’s return? Imagine if those two were hunting the same target…
As a, semi, White Scars collector I'd obviously be super hyped to see The Khan return. But it will be interesting to see how it will happen. While the White Scars suddenly get their own special units, or will they remain totally "Codex Compliant" and Jaghatai simply gets added to the Space Marine Codex?
If Russ has improved his abilities, it may be that even the rune priests can't track him down with their visions.
Finally someone covers this.. I've been using this very passage as reference & screaming to all who'd hear me on discord saying the Khan would be the next loyalist to return.
Also, while Corax is indeed mentioned in there, I think a lot of ppl mistake the bit about he who strikes from within to be Corax. Doesn't help that Njall pretty much mentions them right next to each other, causing folks to think he was still describing Corax with that. But I never saw it that way. Listen to the audiobook & you'll notice the slight break in between suggesting he referred to someone else. And that someone else even if Njall himself didn't know is Alpharius!
Lorgar left meditation ages ago. He's active in the galaxy already
I’m a simple person I see jaghatai khan on thumbnail I click video
Astartes 2 trailer is out!!! GW finally let him out of the basement 🎉
8:39 I’ve started a Word Bearer army so would like to see the return of everybody’s favourite Primarch, Lorgar. The current csm range fit better with Word Bearers than the Iron Warrior’s.
I still say The Khan should get a model first before his story of coming back releases. Since it is his fashion of never being boisterous about what he's up to or what he can do. Like, one or 2 models are found out in the wild in the least likely of stores. Then, when people start to catch on, GW then is like "oh btw here's his book or w/e" lol
I've said that it made more sense to bring back Corvus and Jagathai before Leman, just to keep the anticipation up. Also, the Imperium isn't quite on the back foot yet.
It’s now been 8yrs since Roboute was released and close to 2yrs since we got the Lion. GW has barely moved the story along since. Why bring another Primarch back when they don’t seem to know what to do with the others?
Yep, just boggles my mind that they haven’t contrived a reason for the Lion and Guilman to meet yet… maybe Fulgrim and Guilman rematch; with the Lion coming into play spoiler at the last minute in a dramatic way?
@@BENR8108
Patience, patience…
@@jonharrison9222 no no no! I want my toys now !
literally mentioned this text to you in a stream, about 6 months ago after i read the book. can't wait to see if this was the ultimate teaser from GW
lol you saying we don’t normally talk about primarch’s is like Lucy Pinder saying I don’t normally get my bristols out
I can’t wait for vashtorr to get into the web way and then hear Mongolian throat singing laughing and motorcycles
I think Lorgar should be next to display a 'unified' Chaos legion for all the gods, especially after all the solo dedicated god legions have been released. And if he does it is perfect for my bird father Corax to return chasing after him and give my Raven boys some spotlight!
The foil slowly encroaches the week and I am here for it
Sanguinius egging the fight (best swordsman) between Fulgrim and The Khan on Horus' appointment as Warmaster is definitely a troll move that travels through time (like Black Rage).
Sanguinius' trolling continues even in after life. Best use of gift of Foresight imo.
I’d pay good money for a book narrated in valraks accent
That space wolf voice had me in hysterics!
There was another book mentioning the Wolves going to the labyrinth of Prospero to follow a lead to find Bulveye Greybeard of the 13th, in the center of it.
I wouldn’t mind some expanding on furthering the 13th returning storyline.
Could you interpret the bit about “a shadow rises” to be a reference to Corax?
Yep! Missed that!
I am once again begging GW to release PERTURABO! I’ve been sitting on the sidelines waiting for my return to Warhammer 40k and there is only one army I want… IRON WARRIORS! IRON WITHIN!
Jaghatai returning from the Webway would be the perfect excuse to give us a Drukhari range refresh and also maybe (shock, horror) a new Harlequin unit coming along with him (🤞🤞🤞 for Harlequin Mimes).
What I really want to happen is for GW to tease the return of a specific Primarch, then build hype, have it in books/the lore that there are signs of that teased Primarch, and then when the reveal comes, its a totally different Primarch. I want to be shocked.
Confirmation that the foil is controlling Valrak and he has no memory of what Foilrak says!
Valrak why is Dakka still alive I thought your assassin took care of him
Space Wolf impression? Oh, this will be good.
EDIT: Not sure the Khan can return yet. He's still tricking out his bike.
I know the Khan went into the Webway, but here he speaks about looking into the warp. It makes me think that maybe the Khan went into the webway but ended up going through one of the tears in the webway that leads to the immaterium. Then he could also be an awakened primarch like Corax or partially awakened like the Lion.
I remember hearing in some lore that the Red Corsairs are operating near the White Scars homeworld. So I expect that when they get a refresh of some kind, like a new Huron Blackheart, or perhaps a campiegn book, thats when Jagatai will return.
Thanks for the shout out valrak!
Khan returning would be hype, especially if he unlocked his warp powers and it's something cool as (if we take the words literally) "a white storm upon a chariot of lightning". Think Thor arriving at Wakanda kind of entrance, zap everywhere, move at insane speed and white colored chain lightning.... i got carried away...
Lorgar returning might be profitable, but also if Lorgar returns then they have to bring Corax as well and as much as i love the big raven man wreaking havoc in the warp - he's a little too overpowered for the current setting. Imagine the conversation: Lion: "I can forestwalk, it's pretty cool", Guilliman: "I wield the emperor's sword and can kill demons", Corvus: "I can turn into a giant unstoppable demon bird, disappear and reappear at will, turn into a puddle of pure darkness, single handedly shred through a legion of word bearers on my own and make Lorgar shit his pants on demand"
If anything it'll most likely be Perty figuring out new demon engines and either working with Vashtorr or the more fun plot pretending to work with him, while undermining him and his relationship with Abaddon
As a space wolves fan, I kinda want to wait an edition for lemans return. We’re getting a refresh so I wanna take time to assemble and paint that before he drops and consumes all my attention.
I've always said Jaghatai would be the next to come back because he would be the most easy to write coming back into the current settings story all while being a wildcard character that nobody actively *dislikes*. Besides we'd all love to see him fight Fulgrim.
That was an excellent Fozzie bear impression.
Guilliman as the administrative part of the imperium. The Lion as the general and the Khan as the duelist. Perfect counter to Fulgrim
Valrak's performance is absolute Cinema ✋😮🤚
Lograr coming back..... You think (GW) they are going to hold back the one who is hunting him down..... Corvus Corax...... It will be an epic battle of vengeance.
That "Space Wolf" accent is a dead on tribute to former WWWF Champion, Ivan Koloff
Valrak is going to leave us now and become a voice actor!
Wait, the Space Wolves are Welsh?!!
val: let me tell you primarch is returning WITHOUT telling you a primarch is returning
**Slams Fists On Desk**
We. Want. Lion. Series. NOW!!!
And there you have it, Valrak calling Fists B-tier. :) But yeah, I'd forgotten that Ashes of Prospero thing. I would like the Khan back.
Kor pharon is on the hunt for the star child ... such a dope name
Pretty good impression of a Space Wolf!
if the Khan returns, I dont think he will just "want to go hunting", from the horus heresy novels he is so much deeper than that
He’s like my favourite but it’s really possible that that he did just go to hunt and the Eldar laughing god has pulled some trick bullshit and is holding him to fight Fulgrim or something
I've been saying Jaghatai would be the next loyalist since Arks of Omen. The current narrative, with Vashtor going into the webway, will bring him in contact with the only known loyalist there...
I'd pick up a whole new army of White Scars if Jaghatai came back! 3 of every speeder, outriders, Invader ATVs, the works. For the Emperor and the Khan!
I always thought that Khan would help BRING Russ back from the warp to regain his honor after the burden of having left without helping his brother at Alaxxes...
I heard Jaghatai was captured by Drukari and turned into a giant skinless Grotesque.
Or a Talos, using parts from his jetbike.
The Khan arrives specifically to make fun of Fulgrim again. A roast 40 thousand years in the making on his lips.
If they're trying to do something with Fulgrim's sword and the eldar, Jagathai would make sense since hes been in the webway
THE KHAN!!!!! I heard he built a replica of Monaco in the webway that he just crushes dark eldar on.
Ok so you might be on to something, if the Space Marine character rumours are also true, as you mentioned a White Scar character on a bike and the bike image looks more Jet. But in the Imperium outside of the Custodes there is only 1 to exist, the one for the Grand Master of the Ravenwing. So the Khan returning on a bike works quite well. Also the short story contest has Commorragh as 1 of the locations people can choose.
I feel it should be a switch each time between a codex compliant and non-codex one, though this would mean Rogal Dorn being the last being used by both Imperial Fist and Black Templar.
Lorgar gets my vote for next Chaos Primarch, though story wise I do feel Perturabo makes more sense.
It’s definitely gonna be Corvus, Russ and Jugatai Khan with this prophecy. Vulkan would have to return because all 9 of his artifacts were collected, the king in yellow would likely show himself because custodies are a different faction like space wolves. The prophecy is more of hints than actual witness encounters in lore
Could the Khan be the hit in the release line. A small White Scars addition along with the Space Marine Codex 2.0?
I’m not sick of primarchs returning. In fact we need the missing ones to return
The shadow mention right after is also interesting. Jaghatai and then Corax perhaps? Them appearing perhaps ay the same time or smthn ?
If the Khan does return, I hope it comes with some new White Scars units too. We could do with the Golden Keshig (jetbikes) and a unique Stormseer model.
White scars in 30k have a unique warlord jetbike btw.