John Calvin essentially took over the Church and Government in Geneva, Switzerland. While he was in power he executed those who didn’t accept his doctrines as heretics. Many he burned at the stake using green wood so the fire wouldn’t burn as hot and kill his opponents as quickly. Even those who followed Calvin lived in fear lest they run afoul of him.
Possible, more likely is that all who listened to this used this magical feature of living (as humans) on earth in God's creation as God"'s creation called FREEWILL and we all clicked here non compulsively, atleast non compulsively by God almighty ! MERRRY CHRISTMAS TOO ALL AND TOO ALL HAVE A GOOD NIGHT !!!
You're absolutely right! Much better to believe that God left it up to us and our naturally brilliant, unbiased, sinless hearts to choose Him-because nothing says 'comfort' like knowing my eternal destiny hinges on my wisdom and willpower. What could possibly go wrong?
@djzager false dichotomy. God assumed the totality of human nature, healing, redeeming, and restoring us, conquering death, destroying the works of the devil and ensuring our bodily resurrection. This He did for ALL men, as ALL men are raised bodily - the righteous and reconciled to eternal life and the wicked and unrepentant to judgment and the second death. What terrifies Calvinists is accountability. We are the source and cause of our sin and we must face this, repent and trust Christ to be reconciled so as to be in Him at our resurrection.
@@IdolKiller Ah yes, Calvinists are utterly terrified of accountability-so much so that we believe every single sin will be judged by a perfectly holy God, either on Christ at the cross or on the unrepentant in judgment. Clearly, we just can't handle the idea of personal responsibility. But tell me, if Christ’s work of redemption, healing, and conquering death was applied universally to all men without distinction, then why are the wicked still condemned? Did Christ’s atonement fail to reconcile them? Or could it be that His death secured something specific and effective for those who are in Him? Also, while we affirm human responsibility for sin, we’re not convinced that emphasizing it requires us to downplay God’s sovereignty. After all, Scripture teaches both that we are accountable for our sin (Romans 3:19) and that God works all things according to His will (Ephesians 1:11). It seems the real question isn’t whether Calvinists fear accountability but whether others fear the God who holds them accountable.
How could I do anything other than what God has decreed? Even if I protest, it is only because I conform to God's sovereign unchanging will. Good tidings to you all!!! ... If you're elect that is ... May the Lord and Savior John Calvin be with you all in this very Merry Christmas! ... If you're elect of course ... 🍻🎄🎅
This is great... Nothing warps our view of God and humanity quite like Calvinism. Absolute grotesque heresy. Seeps in everywhere... Happy Calvinmass! "aarrrggh" CHRISTMAS!!! everyone!
who here is the type to play this along with your other christmas songs while you trim the tree with your fam and see if anyone notices? 😂 sorry Mariah. i found a new holiday fav
@@IdolKiller I remember watching a John Macarthur video where he referenced the poor widow who donated her last 2 mites. Pastor M made a comment that she'd had a "false hope" and was seeking salvation by works. I don't understand how it could be seen this way? I wish I could remember what video it was, but I thought...🤔??? I watched another panel of Calvinists literally laughing about the execution of Michael Servetus, saying, "He was a BAD man." That's yet another of many things I've heard from these people that I believe contradict the teachings of Christ. I'm glad there's a channel like yours that biblically challenges them. God bless!
@@IdolKiller I don't understand where it says in the Bible, that Jesus thought the widow was trying to "buy" her salvation...? I never got that from reading this, only that He commented on the others giving out of their abundance, while she gave everything she had...
@littleredhen2894 giving in faith is not a meritorious work, meaning g she didn't buy, earn or deserve mercy... but it was a good thing done in faith and God recognized this. It was her faith that was key, while her giving demonstrated her faith.
@IdolKiller That's how I see giving. We cannot BUY our forgiveness from sin, but, we can show our gratitude by obeying the Lord and being generous. I don't understand where JM got the "false hope/salvation by works" thing out of it...🤷♀️ Calvinist reasoning baffles me. All I saw, was a woman being generous to the point of giving all, out of her love for God, nothing more.
Can someone please explain how I can be saved? Lately I've been struggling with doubts whether or not Jesus hears me in prayer. I believe the gospel and I'm worried that since I've never been baptized in water maybe I'm not saved. Brother Warren it's been troubling me so much thinking these past two years of believing in Christ has been convincing myself that I'm saved when I'm not. I have OCD and ADHD which makes these thoughts worse.
Wow! 22 hours and still no one has responded here? This person asked for help. My friend, do you believe that God raised Jesus from the dead and has redeemed you? I understand you have doubts now. But if you are afraid that it somehow didn't "take", I'd say that that is proof in itself. Kind like when someone fears they've committed the "unpardonable sin". The fact they fear it proves that they haven't. Assurance of our salvation is based in the veracity of God's Word, not your feelings (fear), nor in what anyone may tell you otherwise. Like in Romans If you believed in your heart, and confessed Him with your mouth at a point in time, then do what I did when under extreme doubt similar to yours. I clung to the Word of God, where it said the above verse. That on Apr. 7, 1991 I believed and confessed Christ. I made the decision when going through my own private hell, that no matter how I felt, no matter what I thought, nor what anyone said, that the Word of God is true, and that I AM SAVED!! Because He said so. I began to then come out from under. If you have a history of struggling with fear, I suggest you also find a minister or counselor able to help with this issue. I hope this helps you. God Bless you!
Hi Warren. Just wondering if you’ve looked into Tertullian’s influence on Western atonement theories? According to Thomas P. Collins, “Tertullian’s theory that bad deeds demand satisfaction introduced a legalistic interpretation of the passion, death and resurrection of Christ as making satisfaction for man’s sins, an idea prevalent since then in Latin theology.” Love your work
Jesus said, Most truly, I say to you, unless a person is born from above, he can in no way see the Kingdom of God (John 3:3). Please read on from there.
*CALVINISM IS COMING TO TOWN* Warren - can you do a song based on NAUGHTY OR NICE having to do with Calvinism's "Dreaded False Hope" :-] The NAUGHTY Calvinist: This Calvinist was created to be part of the *MANY* (aka vessels of wrath fitted for destruction) He was created to be a *CHAFF* believer He will go through his whole life - experiencing a constant stream of infallibly decreed FALSE PERCEPTIONS of salvation. He will eventually wake up in the lake of fire - and there realize what Calvin's god created him for. The NICE Calvinist: This Calvinist was created to be part of the *FEW* who are saved from being a part of the *MANY* who are created for eternal torment in a lake of fire - for Calvin's god's good pleasure. You better watch out! You better think twice! He's going to find out whether you were created NAUGHTY or NICE Calvinism is coming to town! :-D
God will not be mocked, the most merciful God has predestined his elect onto eternal glory without any respect of their works and there was no other cause to this election other than the good will and mercy of God. Salvation belongs to the Lord Amen!
1 cor. 1:20 "For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to >>save them that believe
The elect “knows” he is saved, whereas the reprobate believes that he is saved. But precisely because there are reprobate intermixed with the elect, the elect have no certain grounds for supposing themselves not to be reprobate -for it has already been established that the reprobate belief that they possess saving grace is utterly sincere; and, moreover, that God himself is the agent and source of their having this belief. Why, then, should anyone in the church, in the full knowledge of this spiritual and epistemic situation, suppose himself truly saved, because elect, rather than falsely confident of a status lacking all independent verification? Clear as mud from the Calvin himself!
@@John3.36 Ignoring the fact that this is not a real quote, here is what Calvin actually wrote: Faith rests not on human reason, not on human merit, not on human works, but upon the promises of God alone. The Spirit of God, the only witness to our spirits, who alone can persuade us that we are the children of God, gives us this assurance that is stronger than any other proof. God does not bestow the Spirit of regeneration on the reprobate, but gives them only a taste of His power, and the illumination of His Spirit, which afterward vanishes. The reprobate are sometimes affected in a way so similar to the elect that even in their own judgment there is no difference between them. Not that they truly perceive the power of spiritual grace and the sure light of faith; but the Lord, the better to convict them and leave them without excuse, instills into their minds such a sense of His goodness as can be felt without the Spirit of adoption.
I am no Calvinist. I am no Wesleyan. I am third party. I was Wesleyan-Arminian, I was low calvinist once, I followed individual teachers. I can't abide it all anymore. A god who cannot garuntee certainty is a god I won't follow. So if that means I can't know if I'm REALLY elect under Calvin, I reject it. If that means my ability to reject sin determines my salvation I reject that too. I reject it all. I follow a Sola Fide whosoever will model of Salvation. I care not whether anyone else believes it's biblical or not. I've suffered under the prior systems too long and I'll stand off to the side alone if I must. Suffice to say though, The "If you live righteous and believe, then you are saved" argument is hilarious. Calvinists do understand that right. If you comprehend God's holiness we're all poor beggers. Our righteousness has nothing to do with it. However, the law was not intended to make us righteous before God, Christ was. So I put all my chips on Christ. Not on individual election unconditionally, not on my personal righteousness and resistence of sin, solely on Christ, if I'm wrong, I guess I'll see whoever else is in death, Shalom
As a Christian, I'm so saddened that someone would use the Christmas season-a time meant for celebrating Christ and His grace-to mock fellow believers by exaggerating and twisting their views. It’s insensitive, dishonest, and frankly rude, especially when so much of this song isn’t even accurate. Like “grace is not your own.” That completely misrepresents Calvinism. Calvin taught grace is personal and freely given by God to undeserving sinners. Or “predestined paths are tightly drawn, no room to turn or stray.” That’s a shallow take. Calvinists believe in God’s sovereignty, but they also emphasize human responsibility. Then there’s “step out of line, and you may find slow burning fire your home.” That’s just unnecessary and inflammatory, designed to make Calvinists look harsh and cruel. This song isn’t "honest" critique; it’s a caricature meant to misrepresent and divide. If I didn’t agree with Calvinists on anything else, I’d at least respect how often they’re willing to engage with opposing viewpoints, while so many of their critics seem content to mock them. And what’s the excuse? “They started it”? That’s ain't Christlike. Also, it’s worth asking: why is it that so many anti-Calvinist channels spend more time preaching against Calvinists than preaching the Gospel? Isn’t the Gospel what they claim Calvinism refutes? Because when I visit Calvinist channels, I see people explaining what they believe is the Gospel. When I visit channels like this, I see Calvinists being bashed. Makes ya wonder... That said, there are a few points in the song that I'd say aren't wrong. For instance, “the city walls of Geneva stand, with statutes carved in stone” talks about the government of Calvin’s Geneva. That’s a fair criticism, and it’s worth talking about more-not in a parody of a Christmas song about God's peace, mind you. But those moments are far and few between. Most of this song is unfair, dishonest, and inflammatory. It’s not “Honest Calvinism.” It’s a caricature meant to ridicule and divide, not engage thoughtfully. Our goal as Christians is to honor God. This song? It doesn’t do that.
Perhaps you're one of those Calvinists unfamiliar with Calvin's radical implementation of Augustine's doctrine of righteous persecution which he used as the foundation for Genevan law; torturing, maiming and executing men, women and children alike. Or perhaps you're unfamiliar with the sad reality that long after his death, Geneva continued to implement his cruel policies?
You say "caricature meant to ridicule and divide, not engage thoughtfully." -> this is what I see of calvinists defending calvinism. They say "you don't understand calvinism" "your the reprobate so you can't understand". So many senior calvinists can not/ do not "engage thoughtfully" and can not steelman the criticism.
*Question* - would someone be nice enough to give a bit of any overview of this song please? I haven't managed to make the connections.
John Calvin essentially took over the Church and Government in Geneva, Switzerland. While he was in power he executed those who didn’t accept his doctrines as heretics. Many he burned at the stake using green wood so the fire wouldn’t burn as hot and kill his opponents as quickly. Even those who followed Calvin lived in fear lest they run afoul of him.
You're kidding!
Perseverance of the Saints and Election song done in a satirical way using Christmas themes to inspire thought on the hypocrisy of Calvinism.
@@John3.36 Thanks. I've read the lyrics and it is starting to make some sense.
@@LindsayJackel I hadn't been up long when I listened to it. Then I read the lyrics and it made more sense.
I feel predestined to feel that I was predetermined to hear this song.
Possible, more likely is that all who listened to this used this magical feature of living (as humans) on earth in God's creation as God"'s creation called FREEWILL and we all clicked here non compulsively, atleast non compulsively by God almighty ! MERRRY CHRISTMAS TOO ALL AND TOO ALL HAVE A GOOD NIGHT !!!
How comforting to know that God might have chosen us randomly but that there's no way to really know if we won the salvation lottery.
You're absolutely right! Much better to believe that God left it up to us and our naturally brilliant, unbiased, sinless hearts to choose Him-because nothing says 'comfort' like knowing my eternal destiny hinges on my wisdom and willpower. What could possibly go wrong?
@djzager false dichotomy.
God assumed the totality of human nature, healing, redeeming, and restoring us, conquering death, destroying the works of the devil and ensuring our bodily resurrection. This He did for ALL men, as ALL men are raised bodily - the righteous and reconciled to eternal life and the wicked and unrepentant to judgment and the second death.
What terrifies Calvinists is accountability. We are the source and cause of our sin and we must face this, repent and trust Christ to be reconciled so as to be in Him at our resurrection.
@djzager or you know... God calls all people to Himself, and we respond in faith, and he saves us. 🤷♂️😁
@@IdolKillerAmen!
@@IdolKiller Ah yes, Calvinists are utterly terrified of accountability-so much so that we believe every single sin will be judged by a perfectly holy God, either on Christ at the cross or on the unrepentant in judgment. Clearly, we just can't handle the idea of personal responsibility.
But tell me, if Christ’s work of redemption, healing, and conquering death was applied universally to all men without distinction, then why are the wicked still condemned? Did Christ’s atonement fail to reconcile them? Or could it be that His death secured something specific and effective for those who are in Him?
Also, while we affirm human responsibility for sin, we’re not convinced that emphasizing it requires us to downplay God’s sovereignty. After all, Scripture teaches both that we are accountable for our sin (Romans 3:19) and that God works all things according to His will (Ephesians 1:11). It seems the real question isn’t whether Calvinists fear accountability but whether others fear the God who holds them accountable.
"How beautiful are the feet of those who preach conformity."
No tidings of comfort nor joy in calvinism!!
Well done😉🌻
Love you Warren,
This is certainly different
✌🏼
How could I do anything other than what God has decreed? Even if I protest, it is only because I conform to God's sovereign unchanging will.
Good tidings to you all!!! ... If you're elect that is ...
May the Lord and Savior John Calvin be with you all in this very Merry Christmas! ... If you're elect of course ...
🍻🎄🎅
Aww.. come on, I want a present too. How come I never get a present?
This is great...
Nothing warps our view of God and humanity quite like Calvinism. Absolute grotesque heresy. Seeps in everywhere...
Happy Calvinmass! "aarrrggh" CHRISTMAS!!! everyone!
Ahhhh, back to form. 🎄
The river of sarcasm can never be stopped. 😅
Ahh, they do say music unites people from all over the world and all walks of life. Good tidings to all!
Excellent! Thanks for spreading holiday "cheer"! 😅
who here is the type to play this along with your other christmas songs while you trim the tree with your fam and see if anyone notices? 😂
sorry Mariah. i found a new holiday fav
This year there's a new uneasy tension in the holiday air in calvinist homes. Must be the eggnog. 🤔
This easily makes the list of the top 10 best Christmas songs to ever exist🎅🏻🎄
Move over Mariah Carey!
@🤣💯💯💯
Sir, that was awesome! Merry Christmas 😂🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄
Brother - you are truly talented! I pray all works out for you and the kids. You have been a God send yo me. Love you and Merry Christmas
I’m glad that God ordained for this video to be made lol. It cracked me up. Next, please make Chestnuts Roasting over Michael Servetus.
That’s dark as hell my guy 😅
I'll give it a try!
@@IdolKillerdon't you dare! You said you're working on yourself. 😁
Good tidings to some people.......
I want Good Tidings too. How come I don't get good Tidings? 😩
All we are missing now is the mistletoe and the spiked eggnog. 🎄🎁
Merry Christmas to everyone, including calvinists. 👍
Bravo sir!
Great mate
👍
New subscriber here... I'm so grateful that it was foreordained for me to find your channel... I'm binge watching now 😊
@littleredhen2894 welcome!
@@IdolKiller I remember watching a John Macarthur video where he referenced the poor widow who donated her last 2 mites. Pastor M made a comment that she'd had a "false hope" and was seeking salvation by works. I don't understand how it could be seen this way? I wish I could remember what video it was, but I thought...🤔???
I watched another panel of Calvinists literally laughing about the execution of Michael Servetus, saying, "He was a BAD man." That's yet another of many things I've heard from these people that I believe contradict the teachings of Christ.
I'm glad there's a channel like yours that biblically challenges them. God bless!
@@IdolKiller I don't understand where it says in the Bible, that Jesus thought the widow was trying to "buy" her salvation...? I never got that from reading this, only that He commented on the others giving out of their abundance, while she gave everything she had...
@littleredhen2894 giving in faith is not a meritorious work, meaning g she didn't buy, earn or deserve mercy... but it was a good thing done in faith and God recognized this. It was her faith that was key, while her giving demonstrated her faith.
@IdolKiller That's how I see giving. We cannot BUY our forgiveness from sin, but, we can show our gratitude by obeying the Lord and being generous. I don't understand where JM got the "false hope/salvation by works" thing out of it...🤷♀️ Calvinist reasoning baffles me. All I saw, was a woman being generous to the point of giving all, out of her love for God, nothing more.
Good stuff brother
What a great job!! 😂
I imagine they burned green wood and not the yuletide log in Geneva. 😄
Nice! Though I can't wrap my head around the fact that there is snow Inside the house and right under the fire... haha
@@Bullseyeguy8 you caught the AI error! Let's call it white carpet 😆
Can someone please explain how I can be saved? Lately I've been struggling with doubts whether or not Jesus hears me in prayer. I believe the gospel and I'm worried that since I've never been baptized in water maybe I'm not saved. Brother Warren it's been troubling me so much thinking these past two years of believing in Christ has been convincing myself that I'm saved when I'm not. I have OCD and ADHD which makes these thoughts worse.
Wow!
22 hours and still no one has responded here? This person asked for help.
My friend, do you believe that God raised Jesus from the dead and has redeemed you?
I understand you have doubts now.
But if you are afraid that it somehow didn't "take", I'd say that that is proof in itself.
Kind like when someone fears they've committed the "unpardonable sin".
The fact they fear it proves that they haven't.
Assurance of our salvation is based in the veracity of God's Word, not your feelings (fear), nor in what anyone may tell you otherwise.
Like in Romans
If you believed in your heart, and confessed Him with your mouth at a point in time, then do what I did when under extreme doubt similar to yours.
I clung to the Word of God, where it said the above verse.
That on Apr. 7, 1991 I believed and confessed Christ.
I made the decision when going through my own private hell, that no matter how I felt, no matter what I thought, nor what anyone said, that
the Word of God is true,
and that I AM SAVED!!
Because He said so.
I began to then come out from under.
If you have a history of struggling with fear, I suggest you also find a minister or counselor able to help with this issue.
I hope this helps you.
God Bless you!
Hi Warren. Just wondering if you’ve looked into Tertullian’s influence on Western atonement theories? According to Thomas P. Collins, “Tertullian’s theory that bad deeds demand satisfaction introduced a legalistic interpretation of the passion, death and resurrection of Christ as making satisfaction for man’s sins, an idea prevalent since then in Latin theology.”
Love your work
Jesus said, Most truly, I say to you, unless a person is born from above, he can in no way see the Kingdom of God (John 3:3). Please read on from there.
Did you know that there is a region in the Netherlands that still has a large chunk of the population that adheres to strict Calvinism?
Warren must be backsliding into his old deterministic position due to the mildness of this song. Just kidding.
He's trying to hold back that sarcasm, it seeps out every now and then. 😅
Have you called out covenant theology? Or is that something you ascribe to?
*CALVINISM IS COMING TO TOWN*
Warren - can you do a song based on NAUGHTY OR NICE having to do with Calvinism's "Dreaded False Hope" :-]
The NAUGHTY Calvinist:
This Calvinist was created to be part of the *MANY* (aka vessels of wrath fitted for destruction)
He was created to be a *CHAFF* believer
He will go through his whole life - experiencing a constant stream of infallibly decreed FALSE PERCEPTIONS of salvation.
He will eventually wake up in the lake of fire - and there realize what Calvin's god created him for.
The NICE Calvinist:
This Calvinist was created to be part of the *FEW* who are saved from being a part of the *MANY* who are created for eternal torment in a lake of fire - for Calvin's god's good pleasure.
You better watch out!
You better think twice!
He's going to find out whether you were created NAUGHTY or NICE
Calvinism is coming to town! :-D
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Is this your voice, Warren?
@@dissidentleathermonster no.
Calvin was a bully. There is nothing honest about Calvinism. Christ the Judean and Messiah, was not a Calvinist.
God will not be mocked, the most merciful God has predestined his elect onto eternal glory without any respect of their works and there was no other cause to this election other than the good will and mercy of God. Salvation belongs to the Lord Amen!
Sure is a bummer you can't know if you're one of them. May the odds be in your favor.
1 cor. 1:20
"For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to
>>save them that believe
The elect “knows” he is saved, whereas the reprobate believes that he is saved. But precisely because there are reprobate intermixed with the elect, the elect have no certain grounds for supposing themselves not to be reprobate -for it has already been established that the reprobate belief that they possess saving grace is utterly sincere; and, moreover, that God himself is the agent and source of their having this belief. Why, then, should anyone in the church, in the full knowledge of this spiritual and epistemic situation, suppose himself truly saved, because elect, rather than falsely confident of a status lacking all independent verification?
Clear as mud from the Calvin himself!
@@John3.36 Ignoring the fact that this is not a real quote, here is what Calvin actually wrote:
Faith rests not on human reason, not on human merit, not on human works, but upon the promises of God alone.
The Spirit of God, the only witness to our spirits, who alone can persuade us that we are the children of God, gives us this assurance that is stronger than any other proof.
God does not bestow the Spirit of regeneration on the reprobate, but gives them only a taste of His power, and the illumination of His Spirit, which afterward vanishes.
The reprobate are sometimes affected in a way so similar to the elect that even in their own judgment there is no difference between them. Not that they truly perceive the power of spiritual grace and the sure light of faith; but the Lord, the better to convict them and leave them without excuse, instills into their minds such a sense of His goodness as can be felt without the Spirit of adoption.
I am no Calvinist.
I am no Wesleyan.
I am third party.
I was Wesleyan-Arminian,
I was low calvinist once,
I followed individual teachers.
I can't abide it all anymore.
A god who cannot garuntee certainty is a god I won't follow.
So if that means I can't know if I'm REALLY elect under Calvin, I reject it.
If that means my ability to reject sin determines my salvation I reject that too.
I reject it all.
I follow a Sola Fide whosoever will model of Salvation. I care not whether anyone else believes it's biblical or not. I've suffered under the prior systems too long and I'll stand off to the side alone if I must.
Suffice to say though,
The "If you live righteous and believe, then you are saved" argument is hilarious. Calvinists do understand that right. If you comprehend God's holiness we're all poor beggers. Our righteousness has nothing to do with it.
However, the law was not intended to make us righteous before God, Christ was.
So I put all my chips on Christ. Not on individual election unconditionally, not on my personal righteousness and resistence of sin, solely on Christ, if I'm wrong, I guess I'll see whoever else is in death,
Shalom
How semi-Pelagianism stole Christmas, you can be good enoug to earn your gifts.
😀
I was on the Nice side of the list this year.
Was Warren naughty this year? 😅
As a Christian, I'm so saddened that someone would use the Christmas season-a time meant for celebrating Christ and His grace-to mock fellow believers by exaggerating and twisting their views. It’s insensitive, dishonest, and frankly rude, especially when so much of this song isn’t even accurate.
Like “grace is not your own.” That completely misrepresents Calvinism. Calvin taught grace is personal and freely given by God to undeserving sinners. Or “predestined paths are tightly drawn, no room to turn or stray.” That’s a shallow take. Calvinists believe in God’s sovereignty, but they also emphasize human responsibility. Then there’s “step out of line, and you may find slow burning fire your home.” That’s just unnecessary and inflammatory, designed to make Calvinists look harsh and cruel.
This song isn’t "honest" critique; it’s a caricature meant to misrepresent and divide. If I didn’t agree with Calvinists on anything else, I’d at least respect how often they’re willing to engage with opposing viewpoints, while so many of their critics seem content to mock them. And what’s the excuse? “They started it”? That’s ain't Christlike.
Also, it’s worth asking: why is it that so many anti-Calvinist channels spend more time preaching against Calvinists than preaching the Gospel? Isn’t the Gospel what they claim Calvinism refutes? Because when I visit Calvinist channels, I see people explaining what they believe is the Gospel. When I visit channels like this, I see Calvinists being bashed. Makes ya wonder...
That said, there are a few points in the song that I'd say aren't wrong. For instance, “the city walls of Geneva stand, with statutes carved in stone” talks about the government of Calvin’s Geneva. That’s a fair criticism, and it’s worth talking about more-not in a parody of a Christmas song about God's peace, mind you.
But those moments are far and few between. Most of this song is unfair, dishonest, and inflammatory. It’s not “Honest Calvinism.” It’s a caricature meant to ridicule and divide, not engage thoughtfully.
Our goal as Christians is to honor God. This song? It doesn’t do that.
Merry Christmas, Mr. Scrooge!
Perhaps you're one of those Calvinists unfamiliar with Calvin's radical implementation of Augustine's doctrine of righteous persecution which he used as the foundation for Genevan law; torturing, maiming and executing men, women and children alike. Or perhaps you're unfamiliar with the sad reality that long after his death, Geneva continued to implement his cruel policies?
Which calvinist channels preach the gospel?
What do you think is the good news (gospel) that Calvinist teach?
You say "caricature meant to ridicule and divide, not engage thoughtfully." -> this is what I see of calvinists defending calvinism. They say "you don't understand calvinism" "your the reprobate so you can't understand". So many senior calvinists can not/ do not "engage thoughtfully" and can not steelman the criticism.
Another example of your unhinged obsession with theology you dont like. Immaturity shines bright in this channel
@@pamphilus3652"unhinged obsession"... by Ralph Loren, for him
😂😂😂
Or calling out heresy