Yes I'm 66 with low T's. I don't feel tired all the time. My joint don't hurt as much. I'm under Doctors care. I feel and look good. And gaining more muscle due to aging of Sarcopina. Muscle wasting. And you Cycle on and off. Low dose that recommend. I still work out and feels great.
Everyone talks about it now. If you pay any attention to BJJ, you know most of them are on steroids. They do it because they want to win. It ruins the sport for people who want to compete clean, because if they want to compete at a world class level, they HAVE to take PEDS.
One of the guys I started training with was a bodybuilder. About 6ft 265 lbs. At purple belt, he lost to a guy who was 135 lbs. Dude had a mental breakdown. At the highest level, things are different. Everyone has skill. You want to blast gear, that's on you. Your heart and your liver are going to pay for it.
@@Mr_IainPlenty of ancillaries you can take to counteract the negative side effects of AAS. Chase Irons did a great breakdown on what he takes to counteract these effects, he got up to 10 grams of gear a week, and nearly every blood marker was in the green. Did full body MRIs and everything was good. Most just don’t take the necessary steps like that or can’t afford to do so
@@Davobeff this is a morally questionable way to justify doing something wrong. If everyone was murdering their spouse, it wouldn't then be okay to do so.
@@Davobeff not everybody is on them. Not everybody is willing to get on da sauce to compete. So the natty athletes are at a disadvantage, no matter how hard they work.
@@enamlennahc1701how do you justify it being immoral? It's basically just enhancing further your abilities there is a ton of product doing that already and no one is calling them cheating like creatine or any kind of supp
I just made a video this week on a similar topic. I've been weight training natty since 2007 and just now am considering small amounts of enhancement to experiment with after studying on the topic about 18 months. Thanks for the transparency, it's a breath of fresh air. Seems like you have certainly done your homework which is awesome to see as well.
Give you a serious amount of credit and props for being open. A lot of ppl claim they dont and mislead ppl that look up to them. There is no shame on what u do. This is the hurt game. Gotta be ready no matter what
Mad respect big man. Transparency is so huge on this fucking platform. I’ll never judge an elite athlete for using PEDs honestly think even the ones who claim they are not take something. Seems like it just is what it is at the highest level of most sports
@@wrosslandwr8032 no no. Are you a jiujitsu profecional? ADCC, CGI, that type of thing? If not, dont put "training jiujitsu", "talent" or "no talent" in the mix. You do that bc other things. Take care. Jiujitsu is a marathon.
Although you are very cautious, very careful in your message, you certainly know that the position you occupy will give a green light to the younger atheltes, some of them might be willing to be thoughtful, and your message might be helpful to them, but the vast majority will just receive this as a go. Would you consider yoursef as somone playing by the rules now ?
Great video as always! Awesome for the transparency on a taboo topic. Was expecting more mentions to the side effects and anything you personally have experienced in that way. For anyone reading, I have mates that were on gear for a few years as bodybuilders, powerlifters. One got a heart condition, another grew a mass in his testicles and another passed away from a heart attack, all were under 30 for those diagnosis’s. Obviously a difference between those boys and Josh’s use as he’s likely on much lower doses but there’s some pretty fucked adverse effects and we see a lot of bodybuilders passing away prematurely due to their abuse. I’m not anti gear btw same as Josh, for particular individuals it’s worth it if they’re incredibly educated and balancing all their hormones not just increasing test and HGH.
It just seems super risky and there does not really seems a safe way to go about it. A lot of what he said in this video was justifying. Also dude is 27. What is his body going to look like when he is 40 or 50??
Steroids are illegal mate. Also it gives you an unfair advantage over natty athletes. They have to work harder and balance their diet and sleep better etc while you can rely on your roid given attributes. So by you roiding up you create more incentive for other people to roid as well. It tarnishes grappling even more and young kids looking at you will now think they need to roid as well to make it to the big stage.
What are the negative side effects that you are dealing with now and what are the ones that might show up later down the road. You are telling people not to use it and that you advice against it, even though you are blasting yourself and only mentioned positive effects like more muscle mass, more training frequency and strength. I really appreciate your openess but also see a lack of reasons on why not to do it. I honestly despise people taking gear in combat sports, just because it is not tested and you can get away with it. You also say that you don't believe it is the missing piece, which i agree with, you need skills too. But having more training frequency, better recovery and more strength will directly relate to better skills if you train with the right people. I guess Dan Gable said it right: "If I knew the guy was on steroids, that would HELP me. Whereas some might think ‘oh, he’s cheating’ or he’s got an unfair advantage, for me you didn’t pay the price. You’re not as committed as I am. It’ll tear him apart. He may be strong, but all I have to do during that nine minutes of wrestling is loosen one single wire in his brain, make him do something that isn’t perfect, and he’ll fall apart. That’s what I feel." The day you started doping, was the day you stopped believing in your ability to do it on your own.
On one hand, it’s good to be honest about steroid use. On the other hand, I worry that this has the opposite effect on people who start seeing several creators disclosing their steroid use and begin thinking they should too.
I totally understand your take on that but a couple of things. 1. Josh is not communicating that in any way. 2.Josh isn't responsible for folks misinterpreting his video. People will do what they want 3. People need to know if elite level folks are using. It's a shame when folks think all the people in a certain sport are natty, when in fact they are not. It's really dishonest and deceiving to young athletes. Prime example could be crossfit. All the top athletes supposedly pass drug tests and are clean, while PED experts claim that majority of the field is using. Young kids set unreal expectations on themselves by comparing themselves to enhanced athletes. I think hiding the fact people are using isn't the answer which leads me to the next point 4. Education is KEY. If young people are truly educated, they will do like Josh did, reach there genetic potential before using. Learn to train, eat right, sleep right, and learn how their body functions as a natty FIRST. In the meantime they can be learning so they can make a true educated decision if they want to use, and with enough info and guidance, can use as safe as possible without messing themselves up. Idk i just think education is CRITICAL. Education is what would stop teens from doing dumb things like jumping on dianabol only for 6 months straight. 5. I think Josh did a great job also touching on the fact that there are possible top level nattys in the sport which was a great point. I love that acknowledgement. I think that is another critical part of the conversation. I personally know some natty teens who are absolute freaks of strength. Most would swear they are on something but I saw how strong they were at 12 years old and it's unbelievable.
@@FuelFitnessCo I agree Josh presented his thoughts in a well intentioned manner. But still, I would imagine that several (younger especially) people would look at him and think "I want to be like him too" and start taking PEDs. When you have several influencers in your feed with the same message that they too use steroids, even though it is an honest one, it may lead you down a certain path. I'm not arguing Josh's method though, he opened up about his PED use in a clear manner, and he is allowed to use them if indeed the sport keeps them legal.
The Willy shrinking is the main negative! You can lose between 3- 5 inches so if you are already holding a 2 incher you go into minus! Only play if you packing 9 inch plus
@@chaystafari3228 I was told everything shrinks! Ive even tried peeking at steroid users in the urinals but I can’t make it too obvious incase a cop a smack!
Excellent video. No problem with people on steroids competing in competitions that allow it however i do have issues with people obviously on steroids competing in amateur competitions in which it is against the rules. It is still cheating whether there is testing or not if the rules say no steroids. However thanks for the video, I’ll be making sure my teenage sons watch it given that some of their mates are already experimenting
I commend you for owning your decision and discussing steroids are a life altering decision. I think maybe I missed the "why" you take them though? I feel most of the athletes in BJJ use them so they are able to recover quicker and train multiple times a day.
To get an unfair advantage over the competition. That's why it's 'taboo' because it's cheating, just because an organisation doesn't test doesn't mean it's not cheating to use steroids.
@@lewis7105giving yourself an advantage isn’t cheating. Especially when their opponent can choose to take it themselves. If they don’t good for them, but it’s not cheating when both sides are given the same liberties.
@@HPUcoaching depends on the organisation, doesn't it? For an athlete to be on a level playing field they have to potentially break the rules of the tournament (tournament dependent) and most probably local laws regarding anabolic steroids.
I don't understand how people don't think it's cheating tbh. I get that theres no testing for it. You have a distinct advantage over people that don't use steroids. So how are you going to make it fair? By making it mandatory that every athlete has to take it if they want to compete?
You have a distinct advantage by having a better genetic than anyone else, if anything else steroid actually help leveling the playing field to some extent for people that are poorly gifted for exemple
I took trt after having our first kid at 38. Decided to have another kid at 40, so came off and did a fertility test. Results came back almost off the charts, lady interpreting them said they were some of the highest she’d seen. We had twins about 9months later 😂. I’m 44 now, purple belt, train 4x per week. Not on trt anymore and feel great. Infertility & On it for life is a myth, although I will def do again if I start to feel shit.
In a sport where you can use something to increase your performance without any effort on your behalf (by that I mean the recover, strength and endurance increase that come at no extra effort), which most of the high level and successful for people are taking, promoting you are taking it will on encourage others to for two reason, first they will attribute steroids with success, and then second they will want the same advantage as their opponent. The fact people take steroids when all other sports have banned it while claiming to either be athletes, competitors, or sport people is wrong on so many levels. It basically says you couldn't get there on your own. Yes, it still takes skill, hard work and training to be successful, but this edge literally makes that easier to achieve, taking away from the extra dedication, endurance, and effort you may have needed to get to the that top level. And if BJJ carries on down this road all it is doing is promoting the use of something which has genuine negative side effects just to win.
Could not agree more. It taints everything he accomplished. Also what about his coaching? It seems to make it super unclear which of what he does is applicable to people without PEDs.
@Reflectionmaterial yeah coaching is hard as it is, as body size and weight, plus strength and endurance do play a role, a 65kg BJJ guy doesn't fit the same as a 105kg guy, and when you promote success with drugs you give the impression it is good or worth it
@@ashleyturner2627 yeah,, also this guy is 27 years old. Not exactly a whole lot of life experience. And he now tainted his accomplishments by admitting he is on the sauce. It will create more incentive for natty athletes to also roid up in attempts to even the playfield. And up and comers will assume that this is normal and roid use will appear more normalized as apparantly a lot of people are using it. Meanwhile outside ADCC what he just did would get him banned for years and a lifetime ban if he would do it again. Super strange behavior. I actually feel kinda sad that someone in their 20s compromises his health like this just to get more effective in a sport.
@@Reflectionmaterial I agree saying you don't want others to take it, but then say it isn't cheating and hit gives you all these benefits instantly so you can train more and get even better is gonna make so many young teens and adults think they should do it to, as this is what BJJ is all about. After all it isn't cheating, it gives you lots of benefits, and will increase you performance output and intensity, why wouldn't you take it? Plus the sports will become mandatory, if you wanna win take drugs. We want people to watch BJJ, we want revenue for the sport, we wanna grow this industry steroids are not the way, normalising steroids are not the way, having you top athletes and champions on steroids is not the way
@@HPUcoaching yeah, be the hardest working bloke in every room etc. With your roid given gifts you can work a lot harder and easier than natty athletes mate. I just googled you. You are 27 years old. I feel you just sold your soul to the devil for an easier time training and recovering. Also you are on big stages so every single person watching it knows at least a part of your accomplishments are because of cheating. So it either taints anything you do, or it will give incentive for other people to roid up. As apparantlly to make it in high level grappling you need that.
Because it gives you an advantage, yes you still need skill, but if it didn't give you an advantage for free then why would people take it, if it made you more muscular but more tired and you couldn't train, guess what they wouldn't be taking it, so ofc the reason it is banned in all respectable sports it because it offers a benefit for free with risky side effect, on top of this the side effect range from person to person and are long term not only whilre you take it
Roids seem to be too much of a crutch for me to consider them. Plus, Im too lazy to do all those blood tests. Life is hectic and busy enough. Adding one more complex variable to an already busy lifestyle would make me insane.
indeed, this is largely taboo for some reason. More people are explaining their experiences and it's a plus imo. For sure i want a clean sport, but at least if people dope, its best if we know
In most sports people use it all the time. The question is what are they boosting their levels to normal or triple the amount of normal. There is a big problem with medicine because they have a range for all ages.
Anabolic use is pervasive in bjj in a crazy way. I train at a very big gym in southern California and roll with roided-out hobbyists all the time. I'm not sure if it trickles down from the competitive scene or if the activity attracts people who would use anabolics anyway.
No offence, but I did not understand why you use them. Tell about advantages and disadvantages. Better stamina, joint, ligaments health, how much in numbers, any troubles with mens health etc
Are steroids illegal? if the answer is yes, than it is cheating, regardless if everyone is doing it. Do steroids make you better at jiujitsu, I mean, training more jiujitsu makes you better at jiujitsu, and do you know what can help you train more jiujitsu? steroids, because you can recover faster, and train more with jiujitsu compare to a person who is not taking steroids. So yes, steroids can help you do more jiujitsu, and more jiujitsu = get better at jiujitsu.
there's nothing wrong with steroids, its just the reasons for using it , if you are 17 you ABSOLUTUALTY GOT NO REASON to use them however if you are 71 its gonna let you recovery much faster and give you a few more years of something good. its a question of when not do it or not
It’s a given if you want to keep at the top of any sport that doesn’t test you’re going to have to use to compete against those who do. If you’re random Bob who trains twice a week and does a few tournaments a year you’re fine and don’t need the risk
@@Reflectionmaterial and most people know how to get around it. There is heavy use in the nfl, nba, soccer, ufc, wrestling, pretty much all sports. I’m not condoning it as a life time natty myself, but I’m also bigger and stronger than most the user I roll with
@@zyncarla lol, how do they get around random testing?? In the Olympics you get a lifetime ban if you test positive. You think people risk roiding if it can take away their dreams?
Mad respect Josh.Jesus christ man.Coming forward with this is not easy in the current environment.From a career standpoint and all the illusions young impressionable athletes are given.Hopefully this gets more high level competitors to be more honest about what the reality of the highest level of sport is.I'm sure there's something that can be done to make sport as fair as possible.We should be heading in that direction.
Id say 30+ (masters) should be allowed to run. But young men have so much natural test with a proper diet and schedule. I wish i didnt waste my 20s, healthwise.
@@Reflectionmaterial any shpuld be allowed. Idc. But imo men in their 20s will be much happier if they learn to utilize their natural levels. Then when they are in their 30s they will start trt and know their bodies. But thats just my old opinion
@@colt1596 how is that fair in a competition? Is it fair if you try to live healthy and you have to compete against roided up monsters who snore a line of cocain before stepping on the mat??
@@colt1596if men are in their 30s and have low levels then there's something wrong with there lifestyle. Testosterone is still high in 30s and even early 40s (I'm 42). There should be minimal decline due to age in 30s. Decline would be lifestyle related. Poor sleep, stress, bad diet, bodyfat etc....50+ is a different story. Significant decline due to age.
Thanks for your honest point of view. Also much respect for keeping in 💯….. like the great Tony Montana once said, "All I Have In This World Is My Balls And My Word, And I Don't Break 'Em For No One!"
@@isaiah9313 I am sorry many athletes do this on a regular basis and he would have done this in his other profession, do you think footballers, athletes, swimmers, gymnasts just don't train?
It's wild that you're actually talking about this so openly. I wish other athletes in Jiu Jitsu would share their experience with it as well.
Yes I'm 66 with low T's. I don't feel tired all the time. My joint don't hurt as much. I'm under Doctors care. I feel and look good. And gaining more muscle due to aging of Sarcopina. Muscle wasting. And you Cycle on and off. Low dose that recommend. I still work out and feels great.
Everyone talks about it now. If you pay any attention to BJJ, you know most of them are on steroids.
They do it because they want to win.
It ruins the sport for people who want to compete clean, because if they want to compete at a world class level, they HAVE to take PEDS.
@@reginaldanglin4264 you are 66 brother, Josh is 27
I didn't have much of an opinion on Josh before this, but MAD RESPECT for making a video and publicly talking about it.
One of the guys I started training with was a bodybuilder. About 6ft 265 lbs. At purple belt, he lost to a guy who was 135 lbs. Dude had a mental breakdown. At the highest level, things are different. Everyone has skill. You want to blast gear, that's on you. Your heart and your liver are going to pay for it.
And their brain. Neurotoxicity is another issue.
He will defeat opponents who he would have lost to if he was natty.
It's cheating.
99.9% of BJJ guys are on Roids. Simple. Have been for 30 years, that's why all those Brazilins have always been jacked
@@Mr_IainPlenty of ancillaries you can take to counteract the negative side effects of AAS. Chase Irons did a great breakdown on what he takes to counteract these effects, he got up to 10 grams of gear a week, and nearly every blood marker was in the green. Did full body MRIs and everything was good.
Most just don’t take the necessary steps like that or can’t afford to do so
Steroid use in sport is cheating its as simple as that regardless how transparent you are about it.
Not cheating if everyone is on them. It's levelling a playing field
@@Davobeff this is a morally questionable way to justify doing something wrong. If everyone was murdering their spouse, it wouldn't then be okay to do so.
@@Davobeff not everybody is on them. Not everybody is willing to get on da sauce to compete.
So the natty athletes are at a disadvantage, no matter how hard they work.
@@Reflectionmaterial it's their choice to bring à knife to a gun fight it's not against the rule hence it's not cheating
@@enamlennahc1701how do you justify it being immoral? It's basically just enhancing further your abilities there is a ton of product doing that already and no one is calling them cheating like creatine or any kind of supp
I just made a video this week on a similar topic. I've been weight training natty since 2007 and just now am considering small amounts of enhancement to experiment with after studying on the topic about 18 months. Thanks for the transparency, it's a breath of fresh air. Seems like you have certainly done your homework which is awesome to see as well.
should all be banned from sports.
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why
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Because it's not one's true ability. And it forces everyone to kill their health to be at least a little bit competitive
Naive
Give you a serious amount of credit and props for being open. A lot of ppl claim they dont and mislead ppl that look up to them. There is no shame on what u do. This is the hurt game. Gotta be ready no matter what
Mad respect big man. Transparency is so huge on this fucking platform. I’ll never judge an elite athlete for using PEDs honestly think even the ones who claim they are not take something. Seems like it just is what it is at the highest level of most sports
Most sports test.
He is a cheater
@@Reflectionmaterialdo you think test actually work lol? Paulo Costa or Romero never pissed hot do you believe they are natural ?
There's nothing wrong with listening to what scientists have to say, its usually better than listening to one person experiences
I respect you're ability to be candid. As an older grappler dealing with recovery from injuries taking performance enhancers does make sense
What annoys me is that even in the small local competitions every one is so juiced out of their minds that I don't even bothering entering anymore.
I really appreciate your honesty.
I’ve got a lot of respect to you for being so open and sharing your perspective. 💯 Well done! 👏
Insecurity.
Its good if you lack talent/technique
@@wrosslandwr8032 no no. Are you a jiujitsu profecional? ADCC, CGI, that type of thing? If not, dont put "training jiujitsu", "talent" or "no talent" in the mix.
You do that bc other things. Take care. Jiujitsu is a marathon.
Although you are very cautious, very careful in your message, you certainly know that the position you occupy will give a green light to the younger atheltes, some of them might be willing to be thoughtful, and your message might be helpful to them, but the vast majority will just receive this as a go. Would you consider yoursef as somone playing by the rules now ?
Great video as always! Awesome for the transparency on a taboo topic. Was expecting more mentions to the side effects and anything you personally have experienced in that way. For anyone reading, I have mates that were on gear for a few years as bodybuilders, powerlifters. One got a heart condition, another grew a mass in his testicles and another passed away from a heart attack, all were under 30 for those diagnosis’s. Obviously a difference between those boys and Josh’s use as he’s likely on much lower doses but there’s some pretty fucked adverse effects and we see a lot of bodybuilders passing away prematurely due to their abuse.
I’m not anti gear btw same as Josh, for particular individuals it’s worth it if they’re incredibly educated and balancing all their hormones not just increasing test and HGH.
It just seems super risky and there does not really seems a safe way to go about it.
A lot of what he said in this video was justifying. Also dude is 27. What is his body going to look like when he is 40 or 50??
Dr. Shanna Swan is the one you're talking about for microplastics
Thank you sir
Nate Diaz... "you know the quote" lol
Steroids are illegal mate.
Also it gives you an unfair advantage over natty athletes. They have to work harder and balance their diet and sleep better etc while you can rely on your roid given attributes.
So by you roiding up you create more incentive for other people to roid as well.
It tarnishes grappling even more and young kids looking at you will now think they need to roid as well to make it to the big stage.
Agreed 100%
Womp womp
Objectively, none of this is true. This is just bad opinions
This video will get a lot of views because of the honesty of the speaker. Respect💪🏼
Hopefully the young npc watching this video don’t go do roids just wait until your testosterone naturally drops then go use roids
This is a rational thought process, respect.
Thanks for being open about it, even at some of the afbjjwa comps iv competed there have been known users there itd the game now
What are the negative side effects that you are dealing with now and what are the ones that might show up later down the road. You are telling people not to use it and that you advice against it, even though you are blasting yourself and only mentioned positive effects like more muscle mass, more training frequency and strength. I really appreciate your openess but also see a lack of reasons on why not to do it. I honestly despise people taking gear in combat sports, just because it is not tested and you can get away with it. You also say that you don't believe it is the missing piece, which i agree with, you need skills too. But having more training frequency, better recovery and more strength will directly relate to better skills if you train with the right people. I guess Dan Gable said it right: "If I knew the guy was on steroids, that would HELP me. Whereas some might think ‘oh, he’s cheating’ or he’s got an unfair advantage, for me you didn’t pay the price. You’re not as committed as I am. It’ll tear him apart. He may be strong, but all I have to do during that nine minutes of wrestling is loosen one single wire in his brain, make him do something that isn’t perfect, and he’ll fall apart. That’s what I feel." The day you started doping, was the day you stopped believing in your ability to do it on your own.
On one hand, it’s good to be honest about steroid use.
On the other hand, I worry that this has the opposite effect on people who start seeing several creators disclosing their steroid use and begin thinking they should too.
Do as I say, don't do as I do. Seems the message here.
And it seems a poor one.
Also it seems a lot of excuses to justify using roids.
@@Reflectionmaterialyup
I totally understand your take on that but a couple of things.
1. Josh is not communicating that in any way.
2.Josh isn't responsible for folks misinterpreting his video. People will do what they want
3. People need to know if elite level folks are using. It's a shame when folks think all the people in a certain sport are natty, when in fact they are not. It's really dishonest and deceiving to young athletes. Prime example could be crossfit. All the top athletes supposedly pass drug tests and are clean, while PED experts claim that majority of the field is using. Young kids set unreal expectations on themselves by comparing themselves to enhanced athletes. I think hiding the fact people are using isn't the answer which leads me to the next point
4. Education is KEY. If young people are truly educated, they will do like Josh did, reach there genetic potential before using. Learn to train, eat right, sleep right, and learn how their body functions as a natty FIRST. In the meantime they can be learning so they can make a true educated decision if they want to use, and with enough info and guidance, can use as safe as possible without messing themselves up. Idk i just think education is CRITICAL. Education is what would stop teens from doing dumb things like jumping on dianabol only for 6 months straight.
5. I think Josh did a great job also touching on the fact that there are possible top level nattys in the sport which was a great point. I love that acknowledgement. I think that is another critical part of the conversation. I personally know some natty teens who are absolute freaks of strength. Most would swear they are on something but I saw how strong they were at 12 years old and it's unbelievable.
@@FuelFitnessCo I agree Josh presented his thoughts in a well intentioned manner. But still, I would imagine that several (younger especially) people would look at him and think "I want to be like him too" and start taking PEDs. When you have several influencers in your feed with the same message that they too use steroids, even though it is an honest one, it may lead you down a certain path.
I'm not arguing Josh's method though, he opened up about his PED use in a clear manner, and he is allowed to use them if indeed the sport keeps them legal.
@@pauldarthurs the sport is not testing for them. Does not mean they are legal.
Steroids are illegal in sports mate.
The Willy shrinking is the main negative!
You can lose between 3- 5 inches so if you are already holding a 2 incher you go into minus!
Only play if you packing 9 inch plus
It in no way makes it smaller. Complete myth.
@@HPUcoaching thanks for clearing that up coach. I was scared my woman would leave me if I lost any of my meaty🍗
The testicles shrink for sure . But u can take HCG if u wanna keep it producing
@@chaystafari3228 I was told everything shrinks! Ive even tried peeking at steroid users in the urinals but I can’t make it too obvious incase a cop a smack!
@@HPUcoachingthank Christ cause I can’t spare any
Excellent video. No problem with people on steroids competing in competitions that allow it however i do have issues with people obviously on steroids competing in amateur competitions in which it is against the rules. It is still cheating whether there is testing or not if the rules say no steroids. However thanks for the video, I’ll be making sure my teenage sons watch it given that some of their mates are already experimenting
I commend you for owning your decision and discussing steroids are a life altering decision. I think maybe I missed the "why" you take them though? I feel most of the athletes in BJJ use them so they are able to recover quicker and train multiple times a day.
To get an unfair advantage over the competition. That's why it's 'taboo' because it's cheating, just because an organisation doesn't test doesn't mean it's not cheating to use steroids.
@@lewis7105giving yourself an advantage isn’t cheating. Especially when their opponent can choose to take it themselves. If they don’t good for them, but it’s not cheating when both sides are given the same liberties.
I will say even honest users still cope pretty hard over why they take them, its I want to win end of story.
Might have to look up the word cheating in your dictionary again. If it’s not banned in the sport it cannot possibly be deemed cheating.
@@HPUcoaching depends on the organisation, doesn't it?
For an athlete to be on a level playing field they have to potentially break the rules of the tournament (tournament dependent) and most probably local laws regarding anabolic steroids.
Respect for the transparency
I don't understand how people don't think it's cheating tbh. I get that theres no testing for it. You have a distinct advantage over people that don't use steroids. So how are you going to make it fair? By making it mandatory that every athlete has to take it if they want to compete?
You have a distinct advantage by having a better genetic than anyone else, if anything else steroid actually help leveling the playing field to some extent for people that are poorly gifted for exemple
I took trt after having our first kid at 38. Decided to have another kid at 40, so came off and did a fertility test. Results came back almost off the charts, lady interpreting them said they were some of the highest she’d seen. We had twins about 9months later 😂. I’m 44 now, purple belt, train 4x per week. Not on trt anymore and feel great. Infertility & On it for life is a myth, although I will def do again if I start to feel shit.
So what made that you used it??
Why have you stayed off TRT?
“You’re far too physically bankrupt to even consider it” 🤣🤣👏🏼
Joe Rogan has on spme absolutely ridiculous guests, he listens to science when it suits him but avoids it usually
This will be your most popular video mate
Respect Mr. Saunders
In a sport where you can use something to increase your performance without any effort on your behalf (by that I mean the recover, strength and endurance increase that come at no extra effort), which most of the high level and successful for people are taking, promoting you are taking it will on encourage others to for two reason, first they will attribute steroids with success, and then second they will want the same advantage as their opponent. The fact people take steroids when all other sports have banned it while claiming to either be athletes, competitors, or sport people is wrong on so many levels. It basically says you couldn't get there on your own. Yes, it still takes skill, hard work and training to be successful, but this edge literally makes that easier to achieve, taking away from the extra dedication, endurance, and effort you may have needed to get to the that top level. And if BJJ carries on down this road all it is doing is promoting the use of something which has genuine negative side effects just to win.
Could not agree more. It taints everything he accomplished.
Also what about his coaching?
It seems to make it super unclear which of what he does is applicable to people without PEDs.
@Reflectionmaterial yeah coaching is hard as it is, as body size and weight, plus strength and endurance do play a role, a 65kg BJJ guy doesn't fit the same as a 105kg guy, and when you promote success with drugs you give the impression it is good or worth it
@@ashleyturner2627 yeah,, also this guy is 27 years old.
Not exactly a whole lot of life experience. And he now tainted his accomplishments by admitting he is on the sauce.
It will create more incentive for natty athletes to also roid up in attempts to even the playfield.
And up and comers will assume that this is normal and roid use will appear more normalized as apparantly a lot of people are using it.
Meanwhile outside ADCC what he just did would get him banned for years and a lifetime ban if he would do it again.
Super strange behavior.
I actually feel kinda sad that someone in their 20s compromises his health like this just to get more effective in a sport.
@@Reflectionmaterial I agree saying you don't want others to take it, but then say it isn't cheating and hit gives you all these benefits instantly so you can train more and get even better is gonna make so many young teens and adults think they should do it to, as this is what BJJ is all about.
After all it isn't cheating, it gives you lots of benefits, and will increase you performance output and intensity, why wouldn't you take it?
Plus the sports will become mandatory, if you wanna win take drugs.
We want people to watch BJJ, we want revenue for the sport, we wanna grow this industry steroids are not the way, normalising steroids are not the way, having you top athletes and champions on steroids is not the way
Never really understood why people give you so much stick about gear considering it is allowed lol but thanks for the video josh!
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Because it is cheating
Because they know it isn’t the magic ingredient that if they took it they’d still suck.
@@HPUcoaching yeah, be the hardest working bloke in every room etc.
With your roid given gifts you can work a lot harder and easier than natty athletes mate.
I just googled you. You are 27 years old.
I feel you just sold your soul to the devil for an easier time training and recovering.
Also you are on big stages so every single person watching it knows at least a part of your accomplishments are because of cheating.
So it either taints anything you do, or it will give incentive for other people to roid up. As apparantlly to make it in high level grappling you need that.
Because it gives you an advantage, yes you still need skill, but if it didn't give you an advantage for free then why would people take it, if it made you more muscular but more tired and you couldn't train, guess what they wouldn't be taking it, so ofc the reason it is banned in all respectable sports it because it offers a benefit for free with risky side effect, on top of this the side effect range from person to person and are long term not only whilre you take it
@@HPUcoachingthen why do you take it? It does give you an advantage over natties.
Roids seem to be too much of a crutch for me to consider them. Plus, Im too lazy to do all those blood tests. Life is hectic and busy enough. Adding one more complex variable to an already busy lifestyle would make me insane.
indeed, this is largely taboo for some reason. More people are explaining their experiences and it's a plus imo. For sure i want a clean sport, but at least if people dope, its best if we know
Big ups! Thanks Josh! Plenty of take aways for me!
dudes got a snaggletooth
what steroids should I take if I want to look like 1996 Shawn Michaels or 1989 Rick Rude
For shawn michaels just do must drug and no steroids because he didn't do them he just done a lot drugs
Really appreciate the honesty.
As a juice head my self . I knew you were on . But you didn’t say your doses and compounds you’re on . What is it ?
In most sports people use it all the time. The question is what are they boosting their levels to normal or triple the amount of normal. There is a big problem with medicine because they have a range for all ages.
In most sports you get tested.
Using steroids makes you a cheater
The Natty King reigns supreme. Everyone is juiced to their eyeballs and still can't keep up with the Nicky Rod.
Anabolic use is pervasive in bjj in a crazy way. I train at a very big gym in southern California and roll with roided-out hobbyists all the time. I'm not sure if it trickles down from the competitive scene or if the activity attracts people who would use anabolics anyway.
Sweet couch
Good luck to the cab driver who's training 2 times a week fighting you. 😑
Does this cab driver have cauliflower ears?
Love it Josh haha
Josh what were your PRs in the gym when you were focused on lifting?
Kudos to be open about this.
No offence, but I did not understand why you use them. Tell about advantages and disadvantages. Better stamina, joint, ligaments health, how much in numbers, any troubles with mens health etc
Are steroids illegal? if the answer is yes, than it is cheating, regardless if everyone is doing it. Do steroids make you better at jiujitsu, I mean, training more jiujitsu makes you better at jiujitsu, and do you know what can help you train more jiujitsu? steroids, because you can recover faster, and train more with jiujitsu compare to a person who is not taking steroids. So yes, steroids can help you do more jiujitsu, and more jiujitsu = get better at jiujitsu.
Being stronger, having more muscle mass while at the same time still having a ton of cardio also kinda helps in BJJ matches.
@@Reflectionmaterial correct
there's nothing wrong with steroids, its just the reasons for using it , if you are 17 you ABSOLUTUALTY GOT NO REASON to use them however if you are 71 its gonna let you recovery much faster and give you a few more years of something good. its a question of when not do it or not
Doing it at the elite level, to me, is different to being on PEDs competing as a blue belt - if I understand the video correctly.
In both cases you are cheating.
It’s a given if you want to keep at the top of any sport that doesn’t test you’re going to have to use to compete against those who do. If you’re random Bob who trains twice a week and does a few tournaments a year you’re fine and don’t need the risk
And that seems the horrible thing.
Natty athletes are forced to also roid up or get passed by those who do.
@@Reflectionmaterial yup but it’s the sad reality of all sports.
@@zyncarla in other sports people get tested.
@@Reflectionmaterial and most people know how to get around it. There is heavy use in the nfl, nba, soccer, ufc, wrestling, pretty much all sports. I’m not condoning it as a life time natty myself, but I’m also bigger and stronger than most the user I roll with
@@zyncarla lol, how do they get around random testing??
In the Olympics you get a lifetime ban if you test positive.
You think people risk roiding if it can take away their dreams?
Mad respect Josh.Jesus christ man.Coming forward with this is not easy in the current environment.From a career standpoint and all the illusions young impressionable athletes are given.Hopefully this gets more high level competitors to be more honest about what the reality of the highest level of sport is.I'm sure there's something that can be done to make sport as fair as possible.We should be heading in that direction.
This is your most interesting video yet only 13 minutes
100% off BJJ Pros using Steroids... except Nicky Rod of course 🤣
How much did you weigh before and since the use?
This isnt a sport where steroids will excell u through it because its skill based....it can help but doesnt make u a better fighter
Great job talking about it 👏 👍
idk if you still use them but shout out to Brad & Elevetion Health. Started BJJ w/ Brad in a garage in SLC, UT. One of the nicest guys out there!
Id say 30+ (masters) should be allowed to run. But young men have so much natural test with a proper diet and schedule. I wish i didnt waste my 20s, healthwise.
Why should 30 plus be allowed to roid up???
@@Reflectionmaterial any shpuld be allowed. Idc. But imo men in their 20s will be much happier if they learn to utilize their natural levels. Then when they are in their 30s they will start trt and know their bodies. But thats just my old opinion
@@colt1596 how is that fair in a competition?
Is it fair if you try to live healthy and you have to compete against roided up monsters who snore a line of cocain before stepping on the mat??
@@colt1596if men are in their 30s and have low levels then there's something wrong with there lifestyle. Testosterone is still high in 30s and even early 40s (I'm 42). There should be minimal decline due to age in 30s. Decline would be lifestyle related. Poor sleep, stress, bad diet, bodyfat etc....50+ is a different story. Significant decline due to age.
The statement "I am doing steroids because of the blue light and microplastics in my life" seems wild to me, but respect for sharing your experience.
Thanks for your honest point of view. Also much respect for keeping in 💯….. like the great Tony Montana once said, "All I Have In This World Is My Balls And My Word, And I Don't Break 'Em For No One!"
Wait so it's not açai and jesus?!!!!
Thanks for your open and honest insights into this and not selling a lie as so many enhanced people do.
Test + EPO
What are the best anabolics for Jiu Jitsu that you have tried?
Test cypionate or test enanthate
I prefer 400 test 400 NPP for a bulk and 300 test 400 masteron for contest prep .
How do you think you will feel when you eventually have to stop taking? and does that play on your mind at all?
Why will he eventually have to stop taking?
Why would I ever stop
@@HPUcoachingso you don’t die before 50
@@HPUcoaching If for example, they introduced stricter testing
Dr Shanna Swan
How strong was you before and after the steroids?
He was strong before, then, stronger after.
170 bench 260 squat 300 dead all natty
@@HPUcoachinglol I can’t tell if you’re serious >
@@HPUcoachingWoah those are elite numbers 😮.
Cut to the chase mate, what is your dose ?
Killer bruz
Why even bother making a video
Haters gonna hate
Testosterone and HGH are much needed in pro sport
Cheating
You? No shit!?!?
the least cringe athlwte on utube
all that effort with injects & bloodwork, just to be lazy!
try Steak & Weights
Cope
I think i found the real smooth brain here. Try training almost every day multiple times a day. See how far your steak and weights gets you
Yeah nothing can match steroids @@isaiah9313
Makes you lazy apparently
@@isaiah9313 I am sorry many athletes do this on a regular basis and he would have done this in his other profession, do you think footballers, athletes, swimmers, gymnasts just don't train?