Ryan is so humble and so articulate. A true jiujitsu pioneer, I had the fortune to visit his academy a few years ago, and it was hands down, the best jiujitsu experience I have ever had.
Where is his academy located? I like his unique, creative and original style/thought ... I think he asks the questions that lead to evolutionary answers ala Bruce Lee, Eddie Bravo, etc.
As a purple belt, the one thing I take with me into every Jiu Jitsu class is to respect all people in the academy. I treat white belts with the same respect I would treat black belts. Everyone is a teacher and a student in my eyes. I learn so much from white belts and they don't even realize it. It does me no good to wreck white belts that don't have a chance at matching my skill level. It does me no good to go AGRO on a black belt and put my fingers in his eyes and ears because I can't maintain a position with proper technique. It's all about hespecthie.
but, its just a learning curve, you have to do the basics, to learn what works.. half the shit, i get taught is useless for my body shape and ability, so i just stick to what works, funny things is, i figured out what works and doesnt very early and now that i am doing jits for 3 years, i was right about it right from the start, i listen to my body and awareness, still white 2 stripes.. but, most of the blue belts cant tap me, only some of the good ones or heavy guys
@@rockade2408 What school do you train at? Most moves aren't useless, you just need to learn how to implement them into your game for your body type buddy.
A significant amount of grappling is your conditioning relative to your opponents coupled with your ability to remain calm under great physical stress.
Shrimping comes from judo. It’s called Ebi in Japanese. It’s an escape for pins in judo, but you don’t need to escape pins that badly in jujitsu. Always consider what is important for your sport
@Marcel Maksel I’ve seen people shrimp in Wrestling. But regardless of what kind of grappling, wrestling, bjj, or judo, shrimping isn’t gonna get out of a solid hold
@Marcel Maksel I feel it has it’s place in jiu jitsu. The way I’ve understood it, it is a tool to acquire a better angle. But not necessarily as a defensive move outside of a hold, but rather an offensive/neutral move that can just slightly improve an angle for some kind of sweep or submission. It’s not magic in of itself
@@johnjoseph72 you got confused by the naming, gracie jujitsu and brazilian jujitsu (later merged into just bjj due to the Gracie's huge popularity) comes from Judo, but when Judo reached brasil, early 1900s it was still called Kano Jujitsu, Judo is a later term but an older art.
@@czr4752 shrimping is not the only way to escape "a solid hold" but it is very important to know how to. I do feel the hip swing (like a bicycle kick my coach says?) is also super important to get your elbows back
Cant overstate how GOOD a human being Ryan Hall is. The vast majority of Americans would expect their hosts to accommodate them and their rudeness in a foreign country. Every time I have visited outside the United States, this is the image I fight against with both my kindness and comfort in adapting to their rules/cultural norms. Beyond all the BJJ, Hall is simply a decent, respectful person. Applause, applesauce.
If you read Mr Halls Open Letter to the Martial Arts Community, you will know that you shouldn't judge somebody as a good human by his topical politeness. Read his letter.
@@jackiemartling5321 ha! love u jokeman. Ive read the letter at your request and I have a thought or two. Mr. Hall has many traits and an intelligence I approve of and i'm sure many more traits that I don't. The thing is, the ones I dont arent shown to me therefore my overall impression is positive. It does not mean I believe they dont exist. As with all humans, we suck at times so deductively, he must suck at times. I fail to see how any of this is hero worship, just a positive statement of affirmation. Thanks for the reply.
"Never set aside your need and your obligation to ask why you're doing something? Not once, but ask why over and over and over again!" Ryan Hall - 4:50. W/O watching this I have done this as a striker for last 2 years out 11 years, and made more leaps and bound both in my kick boxing/ and boxing than in the prior 9, because of this one principle he describes here. Ask why? And find that out for yourself, until the answer is a reasonable one for you! Is it the easy way? No! Longer route but it gives you better answers! I am now practicing BJJ woth this same mindset, and making leaps and bounds
I’ve heard Ryan say that about shrimping multiple times but could never figure out why he felt so strongly about it until now. I just listened to Danaher talk to Joe rogan about jiu jitsu’s current role in mma. He said most of the escapes in pure jiu jitsu are to get back to guard. But in mma it’s much more tactically sound to escape and stand up rather than sit back with someone in your guard. Makes much more sense to me now why Ryan feels that way about shrimping.
Correct. It very much depends whether you train "sports/competition" Jiu-Jitsu or Jiu-Jitsu for self-defense. Especially self-defense for women... Nothing better than a nice big juicy Shrimp followed by a kick to the face to get out from under and away from an attacker
I think your overanalyzing him here. He would never say that for an iminari roll. Yet, we all know what happened. So to say he's seeing things through an mma /SD perspective doesn't make sense.
For a former Judoka, the 'Shrimp' was a major part of our daily warm up routine. That being said, I feel he's right. I never used a 'Shrimp' move successfully in my newaza practice.
Crazy how far being likable goes. In everything. I’ve heard that like 100 times from people in 100 different settings. Friends, business, work, martial arts, prison, school, home. It seems like across the board, even if you suck at something or if you’re the best ever, just being tolerable to be around will exponentially increase your likelihood of success.
Look at the notes Lex has!!! I’ve seen him on Rogan and know nothing else about him other than that he is very good at listening and giving back to the conversation.
If you rely a lot on grips, that's a not a good sign. Better switch on relying on techniques. Let your grips be broken, no death grip required... to have a healthy and long bjj life
6 months into BJJ and used to try and match opponents as we roll (majority of guys go 100%) but now I take my time and try and apply what I have learned. This has made me more confident.
There may be other ways to instill this in a student, but I see the shrimp move as a tool to help someone internalize the concept of moving yourself out of a jam instead of trying to move your opponent. As far as the closed guard is concerned, I see it as still the most useful and likely guard to assume and work from in a self defense scenario for the majority of people out there. For example, a smaller, weaker woman is much more likely to have to work from the closed guard in a sexual assault situation. As a student preparing for that scenario (which should heavily influence her approach and goals of jiu jitsu), she should assume that she won't be able to decide which position she'll be able defend herself in and should invest alot time in the closed guard bottom, mount bottom, and standing. I see this oversight as symptomatic of the trend of jiu jitsu training and philosophy toward competition. If your goal is to win a tournament or simply to beat your training partners in class then by all means choose the guards (and techniques in general) that you like in that context.
100% agree. I'm knowledgeable enough to know that I don't know everything lol. So I won't disagree with Ryan outright....I'd like to hear more from him on his views of shrimping first. Like you, I also agree that it's an idea taught through a technique. I personally also think it's a great idea. Getting on my side can help me deal with weight and create space, moving things away from my opponent helps create space, moving my hips or shoulders back into my opponent I can fill space etc etc. Those are fundamental ideas that the technique teaches us, that can be applied to lots of different techniques. By your picture, I see you might be a gracie guy yourself as well? I'm not sure I fully understand your views on the oversight of training jits based solely on competition....because, like a real fight, in a competition you might not get to choose where you fight from either. That said, I do fully agree that teaching a fighting art purely in the context of of a safe punchless competition is dangerous for the practicality and longevity of the art...and a disservice to it's students.
Treating people with dignity and make you feel like you are superior shows how much they know their selves (self confidence, self awareness) and also they are constantly open on learning new things, as Socrates said "Γηράσκω αεί διδασκόμενος" and "Εν οίδα ότι ουδέν οίδα".
I started just a month ago and I've spent a while thinking about what it is exactly I think I'm doing in practice, and what I've found so far is that it's easy for me to lose myself in the prepackaged mentality and not pay attention to the real physicality involved in manipulating joints/choking. It feels like the way you're taught is a kind of: do A, B and C and then that's correct and hopefully, magically, it'll just work; as opposed to: try to use any your muscles/weight to bend this joint beyond its normal range of motion/cut off their circulation in their neck in a way that is hard for them to defend. There's just something about the physical torsion of someone's shoulder that can't be communicated through positioning instruction alone, and being told to robotically constrict someone's neck until they tap just doesn't do justice to actually understanding in the moment what you're really trying to do.
At 4:40 Hall mentions "Dunning-Kruger Amnesia" when he meant to say "Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect". Dunning-Kruger is when the inexperienced over-estimate their abilities. The Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect is when you forget how unreliable a source is in one area of their reporting, while trusting them in another area of their reporting (e.g. A journalist writes a piece about Jiu-Jitsu, and makes numerous errors. You identify these as signs of the journalist's incompetence. On the next page, the journalist writes a piece about the spread of COVID-19. You assume no errors in their reporting, and take them at their word.)
Back to the basics. I started BJJ in 1999 and got my blue belt in 2002. I quit in 2003. I started back in late 2019. Wow things had changed. Now I am 3.5 years back, no gi training exclusively. I feel now that we are in a good place compared to 20 yrs ago. All of my black belt professors had developed bad habits and unnecessary movements that have been recognized and replaced by them 10 yrs ago. Now I feel we get a cleaner BJJ concept and bypassed the R&D phase.
I’ve been in so many gyms where you’re either not encouraged to ask questions, but outright made to feel like you’re wasting the black belt’s time. This is so refreshing! Can highly recommend Ryan’s newest 50/50, was fantastic. @ryanhall you’re welcome to free holidays at BJJ Surf Paradise resort any time! And I’ve only ever had one black belt thank me for rolling with them, the god complex is real!
Judging by is trademark incessant blinking, I'd bet he has some sort of compulsive habits that play a huge role in why he got so good so fast. He strikes me as the painstaking observant, detail oriented and obsessive type. While such traits can be unbearable for others to be around, they are actually quite an advantage when acquiring information and skills. He strikes me as the type that can sit down and read, study and research any subject of his interest literally all day as long as he has the time to do so. Most people don't have that level of focus and discipline.
Sometimes the shrimp is necessary but the thing you always must remember is the importance of your next few moves after shrimp, cuz it may help with inside knees and body punches
Man, Ryan, I've really wanted to say thank you for a while now. jiu jitsu has been on my radar for years now but for the life of me I just never saw myself as a student. In fantasy, sure, but I'm built a certain way; My limbs are like green tree twigs. Big chunky men have been the natural enemy of my kind since the dawn of time. On top of this there is nothing I hate more than to lose. Somehow, something in your example frames this brutal challenge as uniquely worthwhile. Almost mandatory. Subjectively, to me, that is: One way or another, I'm going to have to do something about this. Jeeze though. I feel physically depleted after this last year. I guess I just want to say thanks for doing your part to keep the spark alive for the featherweights. I've watched you fight. You are my favorite monster, by far.
Just so you know, you're gonna lose everyday for years. You'll of course get your nice moments, and you'll catch other white belts in stuff, but the phrase "theres levels to this shit" is so true with BJJ it's not even funny. I've been subbed by 155lb 15 years olds multiple times in a row. Its ridiculous bro. But that literally doesnt matter at all, that you're losing that is, because every time you get smashed in training you're learning something new. It's a beautiful and humbling experience and I really hope you make the jump and put a Gi on. Good luck my friend. Oss!! And dont ever get discouraged!!
Shrimp being junk maybe is a reflection of BJJ perspective. I'm a judo black belt and there is a very clear benefit to the shrimp movement as you want the space created to escape a potential holddown, arm lock or strangle. Enough distance and it adds to the time the attacker has to get their technique and the more likely a stand up will occur due to time on the ground with no advancement (in judo you only have a few seconds of no advancement to get your ground techniques). You also don't have a fear of leg based submissions or face strikes. So in the Judo context I would argue that the shrimp is very valuable (competition aspect).
There's a lot there with closed guard. Part of shutting it down is that it's good for closing the distance. If someone is trying to hurt you, you either want them so far they cant touch you, or so close that they don't have leverage.
I'm officially a white belt. I bought it anyway, but I start my journey tomorrow. This should be titled "How to get good at being a good person". I can apply this logic to most any situation and be better for it.
Ive been training for about 8 months now and i feel like i get better every session. Even when i miss a week or two i still come back better. I’m a zero stripe belt and im submitting blue and purple belts fairly often these days and tbh watching UA-cam videos have helped me the most
@@tlungu962 sorry for the late reply brother but this channel, john danaher instructional, and gordan ryan as well. I wont like tho i was already super strong and athletic(im 6’0 and 160 and can bench 290 and run 8 miles lmao) but they’ve given me the technique required to smesh
Comparing a shrimp, which is a fundamental movement, to a flying Ferrari isn’t really a fair comparison lol. He says to respect without trusting authority, I think that applies in this case lol. Definitely learn to “shrimp” your hips/hip escape if you’re just starting jiu jitsu.
You misunderstood what he was saying. He wasn't saying shrimping is entirely bad. He is saying that shrimping is sold as the cornerstone, when it's in all reality a niche thing. This also goes into what Eddie Bravo has been saying. Many BJJ guys realized that certain things only work in the BJJ world. And they are trying to fix that. Kind of like Muy Tai is an amazing combat technique, but when put into MMA it fails due to how easy takedowns counter the way they throw kicks. Same principle, so when he says "Shrimping exposes your face" in BJJ that is fine, distance allows you to reset. But in MMA now your getting slammed with more powerful punches.
As much as Hall's stated reasons for his success are relevant, but underlying his relatively fast level of progress are a few things I think he's not saying, although he clearly knows. 1. Attend multiple classes every day. All of your free time should be spent training. Don't have a romantic relationship, don't have a family and don't have a career. 2. Focus as soon as possible on building a core game. Pick a single submission and just focus on getting very good at that. Hall was known to have won well over a hundred comps with triangles. That's basically all he did for several years. 3. Indeed drill outside of class, but ask good questions and try to figure out the mechanical concepts and analyze how things work. 4. Compete at every tournament with the sole intention of implementing your move. If you can physically get there, go and compete. He used to compete nearly every weekend for many years. One black belt level sub and 15 white belt level "other" techniques still beats 16 blue belt level techniques.
Am I the only one that wishes he would give more context and explanation on the shrimping comment? Depending on context, shrimping ( I call it hipping out) is a very useful tool in jiu jitsu, mma, selfdefense. It gets utilized by world class people in jiu jitsu alot.
Wondering about the constant blinking? Looks like a tic.. nervous energy response from the body. Common in TS… clusters and repetitive motion have been known to enhance one’s ability to excel at anything especially sports. Could be why he got so good so fast. Many pro athletes have Tourette’s. I have strong TS tendencies. With respect and thanks.
11:04 I never got that. If the instructor is a black belt in whatever and he is there to teach you and you are genuinely curious, you should be able to ask relevant questions without fear of judgement. Fortunately my BJJ instructor is very open and loves to explain. This line of thought should be the standard in every realm of teaching
If we could somehow make energy by putting some sort of machine in Ryan’s eyes and it generated electricity or some shit every time he blinked, the world would have more clean power
As an early belt I can confidently say that I could drill the most basic movements and benefit greatly. Just transitioning past someone’s guard into side control would be a great drill for me.
I’m a white belt but as far as I understand shrimping is a useful movement to create some distance and change the way your body is positioned being flat to trying to get on your side so you can tolerate and defend better being under a mount.
@@martialryan Intelligence is often mistaken for many negative things like snobbery or airs. It says more about the person making the assumption than it does about the person being subjected to said assumption.
Seems like Ryan’s philosophy is very based on his experience. He sometimes speaks from a place of if his personal experience is contrary to some principle then you should discard it. I think that might be where he is coming from with the discussion of shrimping. He might not need to shrimp in order to achieve the desired effect that you get from shrimping, which could be based on his body and flexibility, or due to his mentality and game. But for other people they might need those moves to achieve their game. Why would you shrimp? Maybe to create space so you can re-guard if you got passed, but I think he would say, “why are you playing guard?”
But what do you drill and when? Just wait for open mat and see if someone else wants to drill with you? It feels like our gym is always trying to teach us these complicated multi-step techniques when I don't even know the basics. But its also entirely possible i have no idea what I'm talking about.
Being a week into bjj at 10th planet Denver. Hearing him talk about the shrimp is hilarious because I asked in class the other day “am I actually going to move like this ever” that question was answered immediately in live rolling.
This guy, ruining ebi and closed guard in one fell swoop. Jokes aside, thanks for the thought provoking comments. I have always felt frozen in closed guard, and that trying to ebi out of something like a knee ride just gassed me and did nothing else. The art is figuring out what isn't working because it doesn't work, and what doesn't work because you can't work it. This complexity is what makes BJJ a lifelong journey.
two totally different things to excel in for example that's like sawing because someone is really good at drawing that they should become a tattoo artist two very different crafts
I've been training 2 months and usually go 3 or 4 times a week the weekend session is usually 2 hours (once a week) the others are an hour 15 minuets . We roll about 20 minuets each session and do the rest drilling techs. Just go as much as you can and if you feel yourself burning out, tone it back a little. I noticed my ribs hurting like helllllll
ever since watching this I've been kiiiilling on the mat.this drinking unleaded gasoline thing really works
Mate, get on the fully leaded. Unreal. Ask Jon Jones.
@@edforbes1563 yeah he got that diesel d. power......
Bros, you gotta get on that diesel fuel tho. So much POW
Unleaded, diesel? Go big or go home. Jet fuel is the way.
I hope you guys aren't serious, drinking gasoline is dangerous! Kerosene on the hand...
Ryan is so humble and so articulate. A true jiujitsu pioneer, I had the fortune to visit his academy a few years ago, and it was hands down, the best jiujitsu experience I have ever had.
Where is his academy located? I like his unique, creative and original style/thought ... I think he asks the questions that lead to evolutionary answers ala Bruce Lee, Eddie Bravo, etc.
@@ispittruthchannel5317 Arlington VA. I’ve been thinking about making the trip. It’s about 4 hours away.
Do they drill iminari rolls there?
If Ryan was so smart he wouldnt have drank unleaded gasoline, should have not been doing that.
Until he gets knocked out and then he scrambles for excuses
This isn't advice on jiu jitsu, this is pure life advice hidden under the veil of jiu jitsu. Wonderful.
“Be nice”. Wow what amazing life advice. Holy shit! A bus driver could have said as much.
@@RM-jb2bvlooks like you could take some of this advice and apply it to yourself
As a purple belt, the one thing I take with me into every Jiu Jitsu class is to respect all people in the academy. I treat white belts with the same respect I would treat black belts. Everyone is a teacher and a student in my eyes. I learn so much from white belts and they don't even realize it. It does me no good to wreck white belts that don't have a chance at matching my skill level. It does me no good to go AGRO on a black belt and put my fingers in his eyes and ears because I can't maintain a position with proper technique. It's all about hespecthie.
What’s that last word mean
@@paijo1503 Hespecthie, my friendch
@@paijo1503 It's the way Brazilians with thick accents say respect if you sounded out the letters.
@@deyan.dimitroff hahahaha
This video is not about you? What that gotta do with the video?!
Really wanted to hear more about the criticism of the shrimp and it's negatives
I want a full podcast about it ...
but, its just a learning curve, you have to do the basics, to learn what works.. half the shit, i get taught is useless for my body shape and ability, so i just stick to what works, funny things is, i figured out what works and doesnt very early and now that i am doing jits for 3 years, i was right about it right from the start, i listen to my body and awareness, still white 2 stripes.. but, most of the blue belts cant tap me, only some of the good ones or heavy guys
@@rockade2408 What school do you train at? Most moves aren't useless, you just need to learn how to implement them into your game for your body type buddy.
@@rockade2408 There are jokes going around about 2 stripe white belts. They should add yours to their collection.
Yeah holy shit lol
"It's a skill to show that you're actually a legitimately a compassion and curious student" ... Damn, so true.
Very evident why Ryan is so successful. He looks at things from multiple angles, which is valuable for both life, as well as his artistry.
A significant amount of grappling is your conditioning relative to your opponents coupled with your ability to remain calm under great physical stress.
For sure being confortable being uncomfortable is one of the biggest steps in starting.
IT IS #1A most important
@@senecaturnpike9179 it really is , if you can't breath under side control or any posistion really you'll gas out in minutes
Ryan Hall - what a good human being & great ambassador for Jiu jitsu.
“In the absence of knowing what to do, I try and polish what I got”
7:22
Shrimping comes from judo. It’s called Ebi in Japanese. It’s an escape for pins in judo, but you don’t need to escape pins that badly in jujitsu. Always consider what is important for your sport
@Marcel Maksel I’ve seen people shrimp in Wrestling. But regardless of what kind of grappling, wrestling, bjj, or judo, shrimping isn’t gonna get out of a solid hold
@Marcel Maksel I feel it has it’s place in jiu jitsu. The way I’ve understood it, it is a tool to acquire a better angle. But not necessarily as a defensive move outside of a hold, but rather an offensive/neutral move that can just slightly improve an angle for some kind of sweep or submission. It’s not magic in of itself
Judo was born from Jiujitsu
Kano sought jiujitsu masters to preserve the art and later altered it with Judo.No?
@@johnjoseph72 you got confused by the naming, gracie jujitsu and brazilian jujitsu (later merged into just bjj due to the Gracie's huge popularity) comes from Judo, but when Judo reached brasil, early 1900s it was still called Kano Jujitsu, Judo is a later term but an older art.
@@czr4752 shrimping is not the only way to escape "a solid hold" but it is very important to know how to. I do feel the hip swing (like a bicycle kick my coach says?) is also super important to get your elbows back
I started getting good fast...My meniscuses had something to say about that
Same
11 months in. Literally just blew my knee out in my first competition about four hours ago. Right there with ya
@@rossstanford4590 stay strong we’ll get through it
Ross Stanford really, what do you think, ACL?
Amen. Been looking into knees over toes guy.
Cant overstate how GOOD a human being Ryan Hall is. The vast majority of Americans would expect their hosts to accommodate them and their rudeness in a foreign country. Every time I have visited outside the United States, this is the image I fight against with both my kindness and comfort in adapting to their rules/cultural norms. Beyond all the BJJ, Hall is simply a decent, respectful person. Applause, applesauce.
If you read Mr Halls Open Letter to the Martial Arts Community, you will know that you shouldn't judge somebody as a good human by his topical politeness.
Read his letter.
@@jackiemartling5321 ha! love u jokeman. Ive read the letter at your request and I have a thought or two.
Mr. Hall has many traits and an intelligence I approve of and i'm sure many more traits that I don't. The thing is, the ones I dont arent shown to me therefore my overall impression is positive. It does not mean I believe they dont exist. As with all humans, we suck at times so deductively, he must suck at times.
I fail to see how any of this is hero worship, just a positive statement of affirmation.
Thanks for the reply.
"Inability to understand what you're saying doesn't invalidate it" 9:58 this is so good. Amazing extract and discussion 🔥🔥
Mr. Hall analyzes Martial Arts and other subjects in such an intelligent manner. He's got the qualities of a great Martial Arts instructor.
"Never set aside your need and your obligation to ask why you're doing something? Not once, but ask why over and over and over again!" Ryan Hall - 4:50. W/O watching this I have done this as a striker for last 2 years out 11 years, and made more leaps and bound both in my kick boxing/ and boxing than in the prior 9, because of this one principle he describes here. Ask why? And find that out for yourself, until the answer is a reasonable one for you! Is it the easy way? No! Longer route but it gives you better answers! I am now practicing BJJ woth this same mindset, and making leaps and bounds
Put in the hours, keep reevaluating what your doing, question what you know ... isn't that how you get good at anything...
Can we get Ryan on once a month?!
I was here for a tip on getting good at bjj faster. I'm now here for philosophy on life
I’ve heard Ryan say that about shrimping multiple times but could never figure out why he felt so strongly about it until now. I just listened to Danaher talk to Joe rogan about jiu jitsu’s current role in mma. He said most of the escapes in pure jiu jitsu are to get back to guard. But in mma it’s much more tactically sound to escape and stand up rather than sit back with someone in your guard. Makes much more sense to me now why Ryan feels that way about shrimping.
Correct. It very much depends whether you train "sports/competition" Jiu-Jitsu or Jiu-Jitsu for self-defense. Especially self-defense for women... Nothing better than a nice big juicy Shrimp followed by a kick to the face to get out from under and away from an attacker
I think your overanalyzing him here. He would never say that for an iminari roll. Yet, we all know what happened. So to say he's seeing things through an mma /SD perspective doesn't make sense.
For a former Judoka, the 'Shrimp' was a major part of our daily warm up routine. That being said, I feel he's right. I never used a 'Shrimp' move successfully in my newaza practice.
this platform is great. I didn't know old Ryan Hall had jokes... just needed the right media to platform it. great discussion.
Ryan Hall especially based on the thumbnail photo would make a perfect young Tony Soprano in a prequel-spin off series.
Crazy how far being likable goes. In everything. I’ve heard that like 100 times from people in 100 different settings. Friends, business, work, martial arts, prison, school, home. It seems like across the board, even if you suck at something or if you’re the best ever, just being tolerable to be around will exponentially increase your likelihood of success.
This guy is like a breath of fresh air calling out the bull shit in new school BBJ I fully agree
Considering he’s a leg locker, I’m going to take a guess that a good amount of the bull shit is old school
Look at the notes Lex has!!! I’ve seen him on Rogan and know nothing else about him other than that he is very good at listening and giving back to the conversation.
I'm just waiting for my fingers to heal from last gi class
If you rely a lot on grips, that's a not a good sign. Better switch on relying on techniques. Let your grips be broken, no death grip required... to have a healthy and long bjj life
6 months into BJJ and used to try and match opponents as we roll (majority of guys go 100%) but now I take my time and try and apply what I have learned.
This has made me more confident.
There may be other ways to instill this in a student, but I see the shrimp move as a tool to help someone internalize the concept of moving yourself out of a jam instead of trying to move your opponent. As far as the closed guard is concerned, I see it as still the most useful and likely guard to assume and work from in a self defense scenario for the majority of people out there. For example, a smaller, weaker woman is much more likely to have to work from the closed guard in a sexual assault situation. As a student preparing for that scenario (which should heavily influence her approach and goals of jiu jitsu), she should assume that she won't be able to decide which position she'll be able defend herself in and should invest alot time in the closed guard bottom, mount bottom, and standing. I see this oversight as symptomatic of the trend of jiu jitsu training and philosophy toward competition. If your goal is to win a tournament or simply to beat your training partners in class then by all means choose the guards (and techniques in general) that you like in that context.
100% agree.
I'm knowledgeable enough to know that I don't know everything lol. So I won't disagree with Ryan outright....I'd like to hear more from him on his views of shrimping first.
Like you, I also agree that it's an idea taught through a technique. I personally also think it's a great idea.
Getting on my side can help me deal with weight and create space, moving things away from my opponent helps create space, moving my hips or shoulders back into my opponent I can fill space etc etc.
Those are fundamental ideas that the technique teaches us, that can be applied to lots of different techniques.
By your picture, I see you might be a gracie guy yourself as well?
I'm not sure I fully understand your views on the oversight of training jits based solely on competition....because, like a real fight, in a competition you might not get to choose where you fight from either.
That said, I do fully agree that teaching a fighting art purely in the context of of a safe punchless competition is dangerous for the practicality and longevity of the art...and a disservice to it's students.
Treating people with dignity and make you feel like you are superior shows how much they know their selves (self confidence, self awareness) and also they are constantly open on learning new things, as Socrates said "Γηράσκω αεί διδασκόμενος" and "Εν οίδα ότι ουδέν οίδα".
I started just a month ago and I've spent a while thinking about what it is exactly I think I'm doing in practice, and what I've found so far is that it's easy for me to lose myself in the prepackaged mentality and not pay attention to the real physicality involved in manipulating joints/choking. It feels like the way you're taught is a kind of: do A, B and C and then that's correct and hopefully, magically, it'll just work; as opposed to: try to use any your muscles/weight to bend this joint beyond its normal range of motion/cut off their circulation in their neck in a way that is hard for them to defend.
There's just something about the physical torsion of someone's shoulder that can't be communicated through positioning instruction alone, and being told to robotically constrict someone's neck until they tap just doesn't do justice to actually understanding in the moment what you're really trying to do.
To master a technique is not only to know how it works but also why it works.
At 4:40 Hall mentions "Dunning-Kruger Amnesia" when he meant to say "Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect". Dunning-Kruger is when the inexperienced over-estimate their abilities. The Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect is when you forget how unreliable a source is in one area of their reporting, while trusting them in another area of their reporting (e.g. A journalist writes a piece about Jiu-Jitsu, and makes numerous errors. You identify these as signs of the journalist's incompetence. On the next page, the journalist writes a piece about the spread of COVID-19. You assume no errors in their reporting, and take them at their word.)
I love how well he articulates his point so effectively. Contrast that w/ Lex’s lengthy and overly worded questions…
Back to the basics. I started BJJ in 1999 and got my blue belt in 2002. I quit in 2003. I started back in late 2019. Wow things had changed. Now I am 3.5 years back, no gi training exclusively. I feel now that we are in a good place compared to 20 yrs ago. All of my black belt professors had developed bad habits and unnecessary movements that have been recognized and replaced by them 10 yrs ago. Now I feel we get a cleaner BJJ concept and bypassed the R&D phase.
Ryan Hall embodies what martial arts is all about
Ryan is such hoss and intelligent and kind human being. He's always interesting.
Wow, Ryan Hall really impressed me. I can relate very much and take this as great advice. Thanks, Sir!
I really enjoyed this video, I think this is one of the most helpful advices for everyone out there, even if are into jiujitsu or not :)
I’ve been in so many gyms where you’re either not encouraged to ask questions, but outright made to feel like you’re wasting the black belt’s time. This is so refreshing!
Can highly recommend Ryan’s newest 50/50, was fantastic.
@ryanhall you’re welcome to free holidays at BJJ Surf Paradise resort any time!
And I’ve only ever had one black belt thank me for rolling with them, the god complex is real!
Judging by is trademark incessant blinking, I'd bet he has some sort of compulsive habits that play a huge role in why he got so good so fast. He strikes me as the painstaking observant, detail oriented and obsessive type. While such traits can be unbearable for others to be around, they are actually quite an advantage when acquiring information and skills. He strikes me as the type that can sit down and read, study and research any subject of his interest literally all day as long as he has the time to do so. Most people don't have that level of focus and discipline.
lol he also has tourette's...
@@steve2126 Does he really? I was wondering why he was blinking like that. I didn't want to be rude and ask. :/
Sometimes the shrimp is necessary but the thing you always must remember is the importance of your next few moves after shrimp, cuz it may help with inside knees and body punches
Moral of the story: don’t drink unleaded gasoline
Man, Ryan, I've really wanted to say thank you for a while now. jiu jitsu has been on my radar for years now but for the life of me I just never saw myself as a student. In fantasy, sure, but I'm built a certain way; My limbs are like green tree twigs. Big chunky men have been the natural enemy of my kind since the dawn of time. On top of this there is nothing I hate more than to lose. Somehow, something in your example frames this brutal challenge as uniquely worthwhile. Almost mandatory. Subjectively, to me, that is: One way or another, I'm going to have to do something about this. Jeeze though. I feel physically depleted after this last year. I guess I just want to say thanks for doing your part to keep the spark alive for the featherweights. I've watched you fight. You are my favorite monster, by far.
You need to get going with it man
Keep training and keep eating 💪 need those calories for jiu-jitsu, use your speed its a powerful weapon in the sport.
Dude jiu jitsu was made for people who are “tree twigs” lol.
@@teejay89656 *Encouragement Intensifies* 👍
Just so you know, you're gonna lose everyday for years. You'll of course get your nice moments, and you'll catch other white belts in stuff, but the phrase "theres levels to this shit" is so true with BJJ it's not even funny. I've been subbed by 155lb 15 years olds multiple times in a row. Its ridiculous bro. But that literally doesnt matter at all, that you're losing that is, because every time you get smashed in training you're learning something new. It's a beautiful and humbling experience and I really hope you make the jump and put a Gi on. Good luck my friend. Oss!! And dont ever get discouraged!!
If only half of America could take the info here to heart, we would be on our way to even greater things.
Shrimp being junk maybe is a reflection of BJJ perspective. I'm a judo black belt and there is a very clear benefit to the shrimp movement as you want the space created to escape a potential holddown, arm lock or strangle. Enough distance and it adds to the time the attacker has to get their technique and the more likely a stand up will occur due to time on the ground with no advancement (in judo you only have a few seconds of no advancement to get your ground techniques). You also don't have a fear of leg based submissions or face strikes. So in the Judo context I would argue that the shrimp is very valuable (competition aspect).
There's a lot there with closed guard. Part of shutting it down is that it's good for closing the distance. If someone is trying to hurt you, you either want them so far they cant touch you, or so close that they don't have leverage.
I'm officially a white belt. I bought it anyway, but I start my journey tomorrow. This should be titled "How to get good at being a good person". I can apply this logic to most any situation and be better for it.
You get your first stripe yet ?
Ive been training for about 8 months now and i feel like i get better every session. Even when i miss a week or two i still come back better. I’m a zero stripe belt and im submitting blue and purple belts fairly often these days and tbh watching UA-cam videos have helped me the most
Starting jits in Jan 2022. Any recommendations for videos that helped u?
@@tlungu962 sorry for the late reply brother but this channel, john danaher instructional, and gordan ryan as well. I wont like tho i was already super strong and athletic(im 6’0 and 160 and can bench 290 and run 8 miles lmao) but they’ve given me the technique required to smesh
@@tlungu962 how’s it been going bro, I just started
This guy is so amazing!! I’ve been watching his highlights for hours
Shrimping is a waste, I will also not tell you why. Closed guard is bad, also I will not tell you why.
I am glad I saw this Ryan Hall is great I need to change some things.
Comparing a shrimp, which is a fundamental movement, to a flying Ferrari isn’t really a fair comparison lol. He says to respect without trusting authority, I think that applies in this case lol. Definitely learn to “shrimp” your hips/hip escape if you’re just starting jiu jitsu.
You misunderstood what he was saying.
He wasn't saying shrimping is entirely bad. He is saying that shrimping is sold as the cornerstone, when it's in all reality a niche thing.
This also goes into what Eddie Bravo has been saying. Many BJJ guys realized that certain things only work in the BJJ world. And they are trying to fix that.
Kind of like Muy Tai is an amazing combat technique, but when put into MMA it fails due to how easy takedowns counter the way they throw kicks.
Same principle, so when he says "Shrimping exposes your face" in BJJ that is fine, distance allows you to reset.
But in MMA now your getting slammed with more powerful punches.
Shrimping if thought right will be one of the most efficient moments of the basics
As much as Hall's stated reasons for his success are relevant, but underlying his relatively fast level of progress are a few things I think he's not saying, although he clearly knows. 1. Attend multiple classes every day. All of your free time should be spent training. Don't have a romantic relationship, don't have a family and don't have a career. 2. Focus as soon as possible on building a core game. Pick a single submission and just focus on getting very good at that. Hall was known to have won well over a hundred comps with triangles. That's basically all he did for several years. 3. Indeed drill outside of class, but ask good questions and try to figure out the mechanical concepts and analyze how things work. 4. Compete at every tournament with the sole intention of implementing your move. If you can physically get there, go and compete. He used to compete nearly every weekend for many years. One black belt level sub and 15 white belt level "other" techniques still beats 16 blue belt level techniques.
Am I the only one that wishes he would give more context and explanation on the shrimping comment? Depending on context, shrimping ( I call it hipping out) is a very useful tool in jiu jitsu, mma, selfdefense. It gets utilized by world class people in jiu jitsu alot.
Please expand on the shrimping. Does this include the specific shrimp movement Ryan shows in his Defensive Guard DVD?
logical outlook - treat people with dignity , keep an open mind and drill as much as possible
Wondering about the constant blinking? Looks like a tic.. nervous energy response from the body. Common in TS… clusters and repetitive motion have been known to enhance one’s ability to excel at anything especially sports. Could be why he got so good so fast. Many pro athletes have Tourette’s. I have strong TS tendencies. With respect and thanks.
This Ryan Hall guy is a philosopher. GOOD STUFF !
Ryan Hall blinks in Morse Code!
When decoded, it says “You Will Tap”
Do the imanari roll over and over again until you get KO’d. That’s how you get good at BJJ.
Unfortunately. I had high hopes for him, but that was just a terrible performance.
His standup skills are not there. But you cant really hate on the guy, his strategy worked until it didnt
so I hardly shrimp but I think understanding it and the concept is important in your early jiu jitsu learning
I’m convinced Ryan’s blinking is due to the massive amount of books he reads
Anas Nabil. I think it's from the drinking of unleaded gasoline.
Unleaded gasoline isnotbyhatv bad toyo drinhhdhk. I've beghqhn driiiinbggking iiitsf foooree yeesdhrrs. No sieede affekctssss
He has tourettes
@@edforbes1563 LMAO
11:04 I never got that. If the instructor is a black belt in whatever and he is there to teach you and you are genuinely curious, you should be able to ask relevant questions without fear of judgement. Fortunately my BJJ instructor is very open and loves to explain. This line of thought should be the standard in every realm of teaching
If we could somehow make energy by putting some sort of machine in Ryan’s eyes and it generated electricity or some shit every time he blinked, the world would have more clean power
He has a condition he can’t help it.
Blepharospasm my guy
I want to know what drills Ryan was doing as an early belt.
Daily unleaded Gasoline chugs
As an early belt I can confidently say that I could drill the most basic movements and benefit greatly. Just transitioning past someone’s guard into side control would be a great drill for me.
That would be helpful. 20 min of these 2 waxing douche was even more helpful.
You men are very smart/ king and aware of the love in this universe!
People need to realize submissions aren’t just good to finish the opponent it also can help you pass guards and get too position.
I’m a white belt but as far as I understand shrimping is a useful movement to create some distance and change the way your body is positioned being flat to trying to get on your side so you can tolerate and defend better being under a mount.
Shrimp tastes good, thats all I know.
I tore my rotator cuff in week 2 shrimping a few years ago. Cut my BJJ career tragically short.
I love ryan hall. Wish I knew him personally
I like listening to him talk, but I have a feeling he would be a douche bag in real life
What do you mean? He sounds super nice to me
@@thelifeofpieman he's not. he's the exact opposite of what I would label a douchebag.
@@martialryan Intelligence is often mistaken for many negative things like snobbery or airs. It says more about the person making the assumption than it does about the person being subjected to said assumption.
Ryan is my favorite fighter honestly
That blinking though 😀
I love the way this guy asks him the question, like he isn’t expecting bullshit answers
Dude I tried the drinking gas thing and holy shit i was on fuckin’ fire at my last class! I owe them new matts and had to go to the hospital
Two great humans talking about a beautiful and complicated sport. Life.
The BJJ talk was great too.😉
Does anyone know Morse code? Is Ryan trying to tell us something with all the blinking? Does anyone know if he left lex's studio alive?
I just noticed this... if you look at Ryan closely, he kind of looks like Teddy Atlas.
i see it. a little bit.
"Even if I am selfish, it is still in my best interests to be respectful to continue to train"
Manners cost nothing but make the world a better place.
Blink 10000 times if your being held hostage
Humble and highly logical!
Seems like Ryan’s philosophy is very based on his experience. He sometimes speaks from a place of if his personal experience is contrary to some principle then you should discard it. I think that might be where he is coming from with the discussion of shrimping. He might not need to shrimp in order to achieve the desired effect that you get from shrimping, which could be based on his body and flexibility, or due to his mentality and game. But for other people they might need those moves to achieve their game. Why would you shrimp? Maybe to create space so you can re-guard if you got passed, but I think he would say, “why are you playing guard?”
Thank you for the honesty!!
But what do you drill and when? Just wait for open mat and see if someone else wants to drill with you? It feels like our gym is always trying to teach us these complicated multi-step techniques when I don't even know the basics. But its also entirely possible i have no idea what I'm talking about.
What a great attitude Ryan has. Respect ✊
Being a week into bjj at 10th planet Denver. Hearing him talk about the shrimp is hilarious because I asked in class the other day “am I actually going to move like this ever” that question was answered immediately in live rolling.
I use it all the time.
White belt here and getting destroyed but this really helps.
This guy, ruining ebi and closed guard in one fell swoop.
Jokes aside, thanks for the thought provoking comments. I have always felt frozen in closed guard, and that trying to ebi out of something like a knee ride just gassed me and did nothing else. The art is figuring out what isn't working because it doesn't work, and what doesn't work because you can't work it. This complexity is what makes BJJ a lifelong journey.
I imagine the closed guard is significantly more practical in MMA
Dude literally just got knocked out
Lol never drink unleaded gasoline... But Ryan Hall is honestly one of my favorite MMA fighters, aspire to roll/spar with him one day
This podcast is Lexelent
If he's able to excel quick, he should train in kickboxing.
two totally different things to excel in for example that's like sawing because someone is really good at drawing that they should become a tattoo artist two very different crafts
He’s an mma fighter so he does
have you seen his kicks?
@@chowfunky facts! He went down to upstate karate for a few weeks and started throwing sick kicks
I've always hated drilling the shrimp. I'm a mere white belt but I'm so glad a black belt agrees
Lex where in ur schedule do you add the bjj classes? morning, afternoon? how many times per week?
and how would you do it as a beginner? thanks
I've been training 2 months and usually go 3 or 4 times a week the weekend session is usually 2 hours (once a week) the others are an hour 15 minuets . We roll about 20 minuets each session and do the rest drilling techs.
Just go as much as you can and if you feel yourself burning out, tone it back a little. I noticed my ribs hurting like helllllll
I personally like shrimp they re delicious.
Prawns mate. They're called prawns. But i agree, they are delicious
He blinking like that because of the unleaded
I'd love to never have to do another shrimp in warmups ever again.
Ryan hall is fighting this weekend!!