PSVR2 Blurry Graphics Controversy Explained!

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  • @splashydiamond
    @splashydiamond Рік тому +204

    As a fan who is about to buy Psvr2, this video is brilliant. It fixes the most important thing, expectations. No matter how good the headset it, if you have false/higher expectations due to completely different footage provided, you're bound to be dissapointed.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Рік тому +12

      Exactly 🙌🙌🙌

    • @TheAztec010
      @TheAztec010 Рік тому +16

      No one has given false expectations. Problem here is videos like this trying to be the hero when they clearly are not. What was filmed in the video is not what you see with the headset on. The experience is actually pretty enjoyable and it definitely looks a hell of a better than how it was just shown here.

    • @eyeamg0dly
      @eyeamg0dly Рік тому +5

      its definitely worth it for gt7. i have a first gen vr headset that I use for pc and none of the driving games ive played are on same level as gt7 in vr. its an absolute shame this is a psn exclusive.

    • @UniversalStand
      @UniversalStand Рік тому +9

      YES! I’m a day one purchaser and was so disappointed that I was about to return it. I ended up waiting a day and got so immersed that there is ZERO chance I return it or play GT7 in 2d at this point; That said, the issue with the blur in the distance is about ghosting imo. Unfortunately it will take PS5 Pro to run GT7 at the required 120 frames to get rid of that.

    • @Q-Limited
      @Q-Limited Рік тому +2

      100% 👍

  • @MrJonnyHovo
    @MrJonnyHovo Рік тому +96

    I wish someone else had shown a video like this prior to my purchase, and that’s simply to set proper expectations as you mentioned. Thank you for putting this out there.

  • @aboutnzo
    @aboutnzo Рік тому +48

    What you said perfectly captures how I feel with the PSVR2.
    Since I got it, I've been playing GT7 exclusively with the VR headset, because what I feel is unique. I now really want to buy all the cars to try them out because it's so real!
    After a week, every time I go back, I can't believe my eyes.

    • @jordy700
      @jordy700 Рік тому +1

      2 months past, still happy with the psvr2?

    • @BillAshtonNelo
      @BillAshtonNelo 9 місяців тому +3

      6 months in I'm still in awe.

    • @dilshanrasanga9903
      @dilshanrasanga9903 6 місяців тому

      After watching bunch of other videos from other people i was really worried there was something wrong with my headset. Glad to know its normal.

    • @jherellereyes
      @jherellereyes День тому

      There is a way to fix it

  • @TheRobbieEffect
    @TheRobbieEffect Рік тому +25

    Great video. When I first put on my VR2 I was pretty devastated at how bad the picture was, compared to what I had been sold by these completely untruthful reviews. Only now, having accepted it for what it is, am I starting to have a good time with VR2. Sadly many people will of given up after purchasing it expecting super 4k crystal visuals. I unsubbed to all the channels who perpetuated this misleading narrative about the graphics.

    • @LeaksIswashed
      @LeaksIswashed 6 місяців тому

      How has it been? I just got one and I notice this “Mura” and stuff but it’s not too bad

    • @ReTrospectiveVids
      @ReTrospectiveVids 3 місяці тому

      I just got mine yesterday after coming from a Quest 2 (mostly used for high end PC gaming) and I was so disappointed 😢 GT7 was my biggest motivation. My kids love it but I'm wondering now if maybe I should sell up my Quest 2 and get a Quest 3 instead.

  • @geeksquad2
    @geeksquad2 7 місяців тому +9

    I had a very slight and brief disappointment with the clarity until I really dialed in the fit of the headset and I guess how to look around in it. It has eye tracking but all the sharpest clarity will be directly center. So it’s best to also turn your head when looking around the cockpit for example, like you would in reality. The VR showroom feature is mind blowing and I love how you don’t have to buy the car to use the feature. I have worked in a body shop and have done detailing for years and am familiar with many of these cars, and it just absolutely trips me out to look around. It’s better than drugs IMO!

  • @mr.chilll5179
    @mr.chilll5179 Рік тому +20

    I was never into racing games but now i am addicted to gt7 on psvr2, thats how good it is even with the downgrade in visuals.
    I raced a dirt race, i was flying over hills, cars were flying next to me, crazy!
    Even if I end up only playing gt7 the psvr2 was worth every dollar...

    • @supercededman
      @supercededman Рік тому +1

      Well said. My thoughts exactly.

    • @eyeamg0dly
      @eyeamg0dly Рік тому +4

      absolutely, the sense of actually driving a car is amazing. i can accurately judge breaking distances and driving lines now and it has drastically improved my driving experience. it feels very natural.

    • @supercededman
      @supercededman Рік тому +1

      @@eyeamg0dly Spot on. I'm just gobsmacked I'm driving for the fun of it. This is more than a game.

  • @baker-boy7372
    @baker-boy7372 Рік тому +40

    Spot on! I primarily use the VR2 for GT7 And after using a high end gaming monitor, I was I initially disappointed with the visual quality and was focusing on it too much. Once I forgot about it and just enjoyed the immersive feeling I don’t even notice it anymore. I can’t see myself going back to a 2D screen.

    • @degeautdfanfirst
      @degeautdfanfirst Рік тому +3

      Yes especially when find sweetspot even tho hard keep the sweat spot when move head too much

    • @vgaportauthority9932
      @vgaportauthority9932 Рік тому +2

      I got into VR around 2015 and I've hardly touched flat games ever since. My main genres are FPS and simulation, and that is all done FAR better in VR than on flat. Controlling a screen with a gun at the bottom with a joystick or mouse, then centering the middle of the screen on a guy's head and clicking the mouse button doesn't exactly measure up to being pinned behind a crate, struggling to stand up quickly enough because of my own two weak old legs, then steadying my AK and aiming down the damn sights with my damn eyes...
      Like god damn.. How am I EVER going to play a shooter on a screen again? It's so pathetic looking back at the tens of thousands of hours I spent clicking heads with a mouse... It's just an absurd thing to look back on. I loved every second of it, but it just seems like a weird distant memory now after having played many of those same levels in VR..
      Just simple things like "oh, I'm too short to use this box as cover cause I can't really see above it.." But JimmyKilzz420 is 6'3" and can easily use that box as cover.. Just things you don't really think about until you play VR. Small things like that just add so much to the game. I have to play with more range because my body is old enough that doing quick 180s and stuff sometimes hurts my back, lol... That VR CQC is for youngsters.
      Pinched a nerve planting claymores a few months back. Isn't that just ridiculous? How does crazy stuff like that not excite people? I fell on my ass while crouching the other day. I laughed pretty hard.
      VR is THE BEST. No way back to a screen for me, ever. Might as well play on a phone at that point.

    • @EazyDuz18
      @EazyDuz18 Рік тому +1

      @@degeautdfanfirst I can move my head around loads on my 4k tv still looks razor sharp

    • @Darren77771
      @Darren77771 Рік тому +1

      Same experience as myself. It is a great experience for the price. Nurburgring in GT7 actually forced me to remove the headset before I threw up lol. Resident Evil village is an incredible experience even if the graphics are not as sharp as ypu would hope. Roll on the days of 16k VR headsets

  • @tomflounders7061
    @tomflounders7061 Рік тому +8

    Your videos on psvr2 have been great pal, nice to see someone actually highlighting the realities as well as the great bits. I actually began to wonder if there might be an issue with my headset or even eyesight, as so many people out there claiming it looks identical to the 2d image!

  • @jay-t-dj1982
    @jay-t-dj1982 Рік тому +4

    Yeah, exactly what I experienced on day 1. Thought that it was not what I was expecting. Thought I had some settings wrong. Then I did the grand Valley vintage race with the Sierra cosworth and that was worth the money just for that. Did the race 3 times I loved it so much. Do you think with updates in time, things can change with the vr2?

  • @magneticcompass8648
    @magneticcompass8648 Рік тому +8

    Valid point about expectations. I still think the sense of immersion as you touch on supersedes the visual sharpness. If you have never tried VR you will still be blown away.
    I think we will probably have to wait another 3-6 years until PSVR3 comes out alongside with a beefier console to get a true 4k VR experience with hopefully little to no mura.
    Until then I will enjoy my PSVR2

  • @chrisbrooker5227
    @chrisbrooker5227 Рік тому

    Good review. Did you get the cable tidies with the rig or somewhere else?

  • @MrQuinnydog
    @MrQuinnydog Рік тому +19

    Well done for calling this out. I came into VR and PS5, based on these reviewers. It is misleading and really poor. When I received the VR I was wowed and disappointed at the same time. But following you and your tips, I,ve come to appreciate it for what it is, what it does and how it makes me feel. Just wish more people would be more honest.

  • @joshyoerger5271
    @joshyoerger5271 Рік тому +8

    Your comparison with a dream state was really apt and a great way of describing the trade offs of VR vs flat screen.
    I also appreciate the empathy for first time VR users who are disappointed due to unrealistic expectations set in part by other UA-cam videos and reviews. I am not seeing a lot of empathy from the VR veterans on Reddit and elsewhere saying, "this is really good for a midrange VR headset, why are you disappointed?" If we want VR to grow as a mainstream technology, we don't want newcomers immediately feeling disillusioned and then maybe having their concerns dismissed by the VR community.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Рік тому +1

      Agreed, let's not gatekeep

  • @cody1179
    @cody1179 Рік тому +1

    As someone who’s thinking of buying the PSVR2 and never experienced VR, is this the case for most VR headsets like the valve index and quest 2?

  • @HappyFunnyGaming
    @HappyFunnyGaming Рік тому

    I find the speedometer really low rez and hard to read on smaller numbers. Do you find it that way too? I am really enjoying GT7 VR though and the PSVR2.

  • @DT1878
    @DT1878 Рік тому +4

    Great review I felt exactly the same way when I put it on for the first time, I was expecting to see what was shown on screen and reviewers were saying everything was incredibly sharp. I have lowered my expectations of it and I’m enjoying it.

  • @bennicholson5733
    @bennicholson5733 Рік тому

    How would you compare it to the oculus/mete quest 2? The immersion on the quest is still excellent, even with basic visuals, but how would you compere the two visually? If you have played the quest

  • @indeed596
    @indeed596 Рік тому +21

    Spot on sir. I had PSVR1 and was actually a little disappointed initially with the PSVR2s resolution (also conned somewhat by previews as you mentioned). However we are expecting too much. We need 4,6,8k per eye, no lense distortion, no mura, no 60 to 120fps reprojection etc to approach realism. This is a number of years away yet for the mass market. However what the PSVR2 offers is awesome. Being literally in the video game. Playing parts of RE8 last night was bloody incredible. My TV could be 129k and 94 inches and it wouldn't lay a glove on playing in VR. What's more is that we have some awesome games on release. Amen

    • @zippy441
      @zippy441 Рік тому +2

      I have sent mine back to Sony for a replacement, there is no way that the lenses in my unit were right and I wasn't because I didn't have the unit in the sweet spot. The image just had what looked like god rays all over it, it looked like the lenses are dirty on the inner surface and it seems many people have had the issue.
      I've been playing my psvr1 tonight in gt sport and apart the low resolution the psvr 1 looks great, no blurred/ god rays over the image at all... I'm just hoping to God that my unit comes back looking better, because I want to love this thing!

    • @flaw3dgenius222
      @flaw3dgenius222 Рік тому +4

      It sounds like theres barely a jump in quality from PSVR1 to 2.
      I loved PSVR 1 and really wanted a jump but sounds like we wont get a jump unless i go from 1 to 3 if theres such a thing.

    • @zippy441
      @zippy441 Рік тому +2

      ​@@flaw3dgenius222 it's a hard one, because it's definitely a step forward and mainly in resolution, so with small objects far away you'll see a big jump, but I'm going to reserve my judgement until my new unit comes as whether it's a big enough jump for me.

    • @SkemeKOS
      @SkemeKOS Рік тому +1

      Couldnt have said it better. We are good few gens away from crystal clear, PERFECTION. But I still do absolutely love current gen VR, despite its few drawbacks. I also think graphics in general arent there yet for VR. The way all current games render 3D objects st s few metres away from the player leaves them with a lot of aliasing, which is obviously a lot more noticeable whe viewed at full scale in VR. Or maybe this is just an issue that increased resolution or AA can solve? Either way, graphical power isn't there yet, and consumer price VR specs are still a few gems away. As I said, I love VR, but I cant wait until its absolutely 'perfected'(looks as good as current gen games do on a TV)

    • @SkemeKOS
      @SkemeKOS Рік тому +1

      ​@@flaw3dgenius222 Lol No. Overall, there is a massive jump from PSVR1 to PSVR2, but there are still annoying things there that I was hoping would also see such big improvements, but didnt. Mura and FOV being my biggest complaints of PSVR1 are still a complaint I have with PSVR2, and arent that much improved over the original PSVR1.

  • @tenchu8306
    @tenchu8306 Рік тому +4

    Thanks for this.. Just got mine yesterday and been constantly adjusting it like the trying to get it pin sharp 2d..stills looks amazing and am definitely happy with it👍

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Рік тому

      Enjoy it man! 🙌🙌🙌

  • @larslowenberg3861
    @larslowenberg3861 Рік тому +1

    Very VERY good video and explanation mate! First I was a bit disappointed with the graphics (first time VR User), but now and thanks to several videos about the blurry topic, I really appreciate the PSVR2 now for its simplicity and the feeling that it’s giving me as soon as I put it on!

  • @aznpanda510x
    @aznpanda510x Рік тому +3

    People that use contacts leans and glasses. If you’re switching between those. You will need to do your eye tracking over again. So that it can be perfect. I set my VR with contacts on, and did the eye tracking. Everything work perfect but when I use my glasses, I notice my eye tracking is not as sharp. Did a testing and notice it not going to the edges. Because now my eyes are farther out so the tracking is not as precise.

  • @dragoon282
    @dragoon282 Рік тому +1

    When I play horizon, when I look straight on at my hands, it always looks a bit blurry, even when I'm not looking to the side with the lens distortion, every I've asked keeps saying it looks "crystal clear", I'm starting to think maybe I have a defective unit but I'm not sure bc I imagine it's all relative, so my question for you mate, when you're looking straight on at an object, up close, does it still look blurry or does it look pretty sharp?

    • @Swinger5555
      @Swinger5555 Рік тому +1

      Yeah, looks still washed out

    • @razor19906
      @razor19906 Рік тому +2

      Fake scam reviewers its blurry bro, crystal clear they say funny

  • @MrJspecefini
    @MrJspecefini Рік тому

    So is this blurry comparable like on my oculus when playing assetto corsa, or is it significantly sharper?

  • @jeepsrtslw
    @jeepsrtslw Рік тому

    I get pretty good image but I have a question if you have the time to answer when I play re7 and I get really close text it feels like my eyes go cross sided trying to read something super up close like subtitles I had to remove because it was to hard to read but I can see images clearly like shooting and stuff do you guys get that same issue? Mind you I have 20/20 vision

  • @dennispena5496
    @dennispena5496 Рік тому +1

    Hi can you do a capture using another PSVR2 free game demo? like Puzzling Places, Star Wars, Resident Evil? I don't have enough space in my PS5 to install GT7, and have been exeriencing a general blurriness in most PSVR2 games.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Рік тому

      Hey man we streamed Star Wars VR if you have seen it?

    • @dennispena5496
      @dennispena5496 Рік тому

      ​@@Kireth oh! I'll take a look thanks....

  • @fatshartspunhouse2403
    @fatshartspunhouse2403 Рік тому

    I have a 4K tv but most of the time I play GT7 on PS5 on an old 1080 tv. Do you think PSVR2 will look better?

  • @hktrading8485
    @hktrading8485 Рік тому +1

    Can you do the same demonstration but this time not using a foggy map ?

  • @proceduralgames
    @proceduralgames Рік тому

    I've not tried vr since Occulus dev kit 1. Many have said the psvr2 share image isn't the same quality, but your approximation of the in headset quality is very helpful. Thank you

  • @klauslehrmann3906
    @klauslehrmann3906 Рік тому

    What is the visual quality for someone wearing vs not wearing spectacles?

  • @Weetbix1969
    @Weetbix1969 Рік тому

    it could be because it is more a port rather than something made specifically for the VR2 and also not fully using the Foveated Rendering also so the next gen version would be way better, i did notice when you were sitting still the sharpness on the meter markers did change slightly sharper and grainier and that could be because of where you were looking and the FR tracking affecting it

  • @smokingrubber
    @smokingrubber Рік тому +2

    Did you notice a difference between 120hz on and off? I can't really tell a difference. Maybe I'll notice it after rebooting the PS5?

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Рік тому +2

      Cinema mode only

    • @smokingrubber
      @smokingrubber Рік тому

      @@Kireth What a jip! Not during races? No wonder I didn't notice a difference. Hopefully that's in an update.

  • @DougFRodrigues
    @DougFRodrigues 6 місяців тому

    I understand the grainy graphics and they don’t bother me too much, the immersion feeling made me almost 0.5 seconds faster right off the bat!
    There’s one problem I haven’t been able to fix, the lack of race information in the VR, when playing on a screen, you the racers position on the left of the screen, with the gaps, with Vr I don’t have that, and that bothers me a little. Is there anyway to fix this?

  • @RB.993
    @RB.993 Рік тому +12

    Kireth, you’ve been excellent at articulating how you view PSVR2. I also received it at launch and wearing glasses I questioned whether the blurring, etc I saw was because of my vision rather than the headset itself. Having never owned a VR headset and I didn’t have anything to benchmark it against and it’s been helpful and relieving to know you’ve experienced the same things. I’ve come to accept the limitations of the headset, I still love it and I thoroughly enjoy GT7.

  • @ertugrulbae46
    @ertugrulbae46 Рік тому +2

    The double image should be reduced if 120fps mode is off and stays at 60...bec the headset/game only throws 60fps at you.

  • @wjveryzer7985
    @wjveryzer7985 Рік тому +7

    What confuses me even more tho, are those events they had with people trying it out. EVERY PERSON said it was insanely sharp.

    • @razor19906
      @razor19906 Рік тому +1

      Its a scam

    • @HarryVoyager
      @HarryVoyager Рік тому +1

      Compared to the PSVR1 it has about twice the pixel density, for around 25 pixels per degree (ppd). That's also higher than the Quest 2's 18-19 ppd, and the dynamic foveated rendering it can keep that ppd much better.
      What new adopters are running into is a 1440p monitor is a 40+ ppd depending on how close you are to it. Even a 24" 1080p monitor is about a 35ppd display when you're at comfortable gaming distances.
      So the PSVR2 is considerably sharper than the PSVR1 and even the Quest 2. The problem is all of them are roflstomped in sharpness by a (checks notes) 14 year old HP LP2475W monitor.
      To get to that level of sharpness, you're starting to look at stuff like the Varjo Aero, which is a bit rich for a lot of people's blood. Definitely not a first VR headset, no...

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Рік тому +2

      They were paid - I'm not

  • @VanHinten1
    @VanHinten1 Рік тому

    When driving fast and I watch left or right i see double. Is it normal or is the headset not fit correct

  • @DiscordantVice
    @DiscordantVice Рік тому

    Really glad I found your video. Thanks for posting. Very disappointing to at other reviewers haven’t made this clear

  • @Dzasmina2304
    @Dzasmina2304 Рік тому +9

    Can't wait to finally play PSVR... 😁 Maybe this weekend I will have a chance

  • @VIIBLESSEDVII
    @VIIBLESSEDVII 4 місяці тому

    Yeah I experienced this when I first bought my vr2 for gt7 but you know with a few little wipes for the lenses, adjusting the eye tracking as well as making sure I have the vr2 set up on my face in the place that fits perfectly with the band tight also making sure you have the lenses the right distance from your eyes before you login I feel makes it much less blurry and much more enjoyable. However there is still some blur however it can be worsened if you have smudged on your lenses or if you don’t have it the right distance from your eyes or not property positioned on your face.

  • @thomphead8385
    @thomphead8385 Рік тому +1

    Absolute excellent video! and I'm glad you have said what you said @ 2:40 - why no one has mentioned old VR elements are still present - and that it's '4K'. I own the headset and I've owned previous headsets - so the visual reference to myself is there to see the improvements, an that's helped me absolutely love the PSVR2. Because I can compare it to others.
    but watching these big review channels painting it "4K, stunning, absolutely crisp & clear" - being either a new buyer or buyer of VR devices, you're gonna buy this headset expecting a 4K TV HDR experience.
    Headset is still amazing to me however as it is the most crisp headset I have put on. But I feel like you've said, pre-reviews etc. never pointed out it still has its flaws

  • @LisakRacing
    @LisakRacing Рік тому +11

    Again, one and only men with balls to say the thruth! Kireth the Great!

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Рік тому +2

      Thanks Lisak!

  • @rmsamonte
    @rmsamonte 2 місяці тому

    I'm old school. I played GT7 on my tv first before PSVR2. The level of emersion you experience is worth the reduced clarity of the VR visuals. There's also an increased sense of speed we didn't experience when playing on a flat screen. As I've said, I'm old school. When I look back at how far gaming graphics have come, PSVR2 visuals still blows my mind especially when I can still remember playing Night Driver on the Atari 2600. My grandkids and I are all hooked on GT7 in VR.

  • @UnboxRacing
    @UnboxRacing Рік тому

    I have a Meta Quest 2 with a link to PC playing Assetto Corsa. The framerate is the key thing, there is some blur but the immersion and ability to judge depth in entry and exit is unparalleled. Does PSVR2 work with ACC on PS5? That will be a key comparison. Thanks Kireth 🙏

    • @carlad2640
      @carlad2640 Рік тому

      No. That's never going to happen. Maybe AC2 with their own engine hopefully.

  • @spnakr007
    @spnakr007 Рік тому +6

    Despite some shortcomings such as fitting and screen drifting, I like my PSVR2. Also I need a new seat because the back of the headset bumps against the headrest.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Рік тому

      Maybe a HANS device is needed 😅

    • @spnakr007
      @spnakr007 Рік тому

      ​@@Kireth 😂👏

  • @andyspoo2
    @andyspoo2 Рік тому

    Is there any chance you can do a similar video for Horizon Call of the Mountain? I'd like to know what the graphics are actually like on that!

  • @spnakr007
    @spnakr007 Рік тому +1

    One thing I don't understand is if the headset can track the playing area, how come it can't track the headset and keep everything in the center of the screen. 🤷

  • @mmo5366
    @mmo5366 5 місяців тому +1

    Just bought a PSVR2 and it is both true that this video is very accurate in my being a bit unsure of my first experiences being “blurry” compared with my prior expectations, and that the sense of depth and volume is unparalleled and absolutely worth working through and finding that “sweet-stop” where it’s as clear as it will get. When it clicks, it’s pure good.

  • @raymondnist8770
    @raymondnist8770 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for the honest review.
    There are still people claiming that this is a crystal clear head set. They don’t know what they are looking at - ignorance is bliss.
    Thank you for the honest review. There aren’t many of you out there

  • @Q-Limited
    @Q-Limited Рік тому

    Good video, and a pretty good demo of what it looks like...
    Feel like my distance signs are a bit clearer... but it does vary with track/ lighting also 👍

  • @Laster_Motorsports_SIM_Racing
    @Laster_Motorsports_SIM_Racing Рік тому +5

    Kireth it sounds like a lot of users are not properly adjusting the lenses. Getting the pupil spread adjustment seems to be crucial, much more than the forward and back. If the pupil adjustment is not correct the tracking will be off and make a mess of the visuals.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Рік тому

      Superb point Gary and something I will cover in a future video!!

  • @swayzreborn8786
    @swayzreborn8786 Рік тому

    I love my psvr2...I'm debating on getting a rig...any suggestions...after some research I was thinking the thrustmaster t300...but any guidance would be appreciated

    • @Retheraq
      @Retheraq Місяць тому +1

      Logitech g pro.

  • @davidshekhter5284
    @davidshekhter5284 Рік тому +14

    The immersion is unbelievable!!! It is very hard to enjoy the crystal clear flat screen version anymore. I literally feel like I'm sitting in the car bc the closer the object the clearer the picture. It's so cool trying out the different generations of vehicles. Don't listen to the haters, get yourself the psvr2 and enjoy this game how it was meant to be.

    • @vgaportauthority9932
      @vgaportauthority9932 Рік тому +2

      Agree. Flaws and all, it's still infinitely more fun than a screen.
      If you want to really see the difference, do a few races on Lago Maggiore in France, then watch someone play it on youtube on a screen... It's unbelievable how flat that track is in 2D compared to in VR. In VR it's a rollercoaster, and the U turn up the wall is just crazy.. On flat, it looks like the U turn up the wall is just a U turn at the bottom of a hill... The track is hardly recognizable after getting used to it in VR. 2d screens really do race tracks a HUGE disservice. Same with Nurburgring, that track is ridiculous in VR. Terrifying.

    • @powervr
      @powervr Рік тому

      Like me... I am unable to play on a flat screen anymore...

    • @teeambird2079
      @teeambird2079 4 місяці тому

      I was worried by this video because I've just ordered a headset but I've been playing on a 4k TV since the game came out. So just need to adjust my expectations.

  • @kcpiranha58
    @kcpiranha58 Рік тому

    I have the psvr2 and I absolutely love it. The thing I'm wondering is from a hardware and graphics perspective... if a developer wanted to get the max graphics and resolution out of the headset then why does it take up graphics and processing power and render it to your TV too? It seems counterintuitive or am I missing something?

  • @salvadorvalencia1338
    @salvadorvalencia1338 Рік тому +3

    I also saw reviews that mentioned that theater mode looked great , but it is just clear in the center and even if you move your eyes sides will be blurry (you actually have to move your entire head to center in where you want clarity.) I was led to believe that PSVR 2 would always know where you where looking at and make that area clear , but….

    • @aaronsmith7143
      @aaronsmith7143 Рік тому +1

      You are misinterpreting Foveated rendering with the cinematic mode. Foveated rendering is what uses the eye tracking. That is a completely separate capability not tied to non VR experiences.

    • @salvadorvalencia1338
      @salvadorvalencia1338 Рік тому +1

      @@aaronsmith7143 somehow I expected it to work for any content. It’s all fine , but definitely I would not use Theater mode to game on now.

    • @marfg12345
      @marfg12345 Рік тому +1

      The cinema mode looks terrible and nothing like an actual TV. I'm disappointed in Digital Foundry because one of their reviewers was adamant that the PSVR 2 can be used as a TV. It looks like a 720p TV with godrays and chromatic aberration on the edges.

    • @carlad2640
      @carlad2640 Рік тому

      ​@@marfg12345 They also said GT7 looked better on PSVR2 than on PS4 PRO which sounds like utter BS.

  • @UnknownZA
    @UnknownZA Рік тому +1

    Yeah, I bought it earlier this week and my expectations were that the graphics were going to be 2k where you look at with foveated rendering, the image was supposed to be amazing where you looked at(or where the system caught your eyes looking at). However when I tried it I could see blurriness in the distance, e.g. practicing for a race on Atlanta on the long back straight I would see blur about 200m ahead. I was expecting foveated rendering to eliminate this. So am disappointed in that fact that the image isn't high quality like it is on my monitor but the VR effect which plants you in the car and allowing you to look around is amazing. I also got sick twice. Yes I am a VR noob and this is my first VR headset.

  • @roydub4820
    @roydub4820 Рік тому +18

    I received my VR2 the day it dropped. I bought specifically for GT7. I will say it's definitely more blurry than I was expecting. However, I DO NOT REGRET BUYING IT. Like you said the feeling you get while driving in VR is still mind-blowing and especially when you're walking around or looking around the inside of the different cars.

    • @cesarmuller8962
      @cesarmuller8962 Рік тому

      I liked that definition that appears in the video, of course, it's not 4K, but I who play at 1080p on an LED TV probably won't think it's bad.
      But what about Mura? Is it really that noticeable? Does it show up all the time?

    • @schwartzy65
      @schwartzy65 Рік тому

      And the blur doesnt even come from the graphics but from the lenses and how close the screens are to your eyes.

    • @EazyDuz18
      @EazyDuz18 Рік тому

      cope

    • @cliverosfield69
      @cliverosfield69 Рік тому

      ​@@EazyDuz18 🤡

    • @EazyDuz18
      @EazyDuz18 Рік тому

      @@cliverosfield69 your the coping clown lmfaoooooOooOooo🤡

  • @jimd6478
    @jimd6478 Рік тому +3

    You are right thanks for that, when I first received the psvr 2 I was confused reviews we’re talking about hdr and photo realism. I actually thought my headset was broken. I had to realise it was still amazing without that. I spent more time trying to get the headset to look how the reviewers said it was i it was supposed to look and that made me frustrated at first. I should have just played the games and realised as I do now how good it was as I said without that. The reviews made my experience not as good as it would have been without the reviews. Sorry it was so long great video.

  • @kway745
    @kway745 Рік тому +35

    I was so blown away by the experience initially that it took me a while to even notice that maybe it was less than sharp. And even then, that was mainly because of the negative influence of reading complaints online and seeing videos with super sharp footage being posted.
    I started second guessing and thinking maybe I didn’t get all I paid for, and it began to negatively effect my enjoyment. This despite the fact that I had already spent days loving every minute before all the negativity. I realized what was going on though and dialed back my expectations (even though I had already experienced it, so I don’t know what you call that) and now I’m fully back on board.
    It’s worth every penny if you ask me

    • @andyspoo2
      @andyspoo2 Рік тому +5

      With all the returns Sony has got to sell them at a discount at some point. I'll grab one when they do.

    • @DirEnGay
      @DirEnGay Рік тому +1

      @@andyspoo2 Lol well I had to return mine because of a dead pixel and been waiting 2 weeks for a replacement to be sent out.

    • @MorecookiesFR
      @MorecookiesFR Рік тому +3

      @@DirEnGay People love to complain. I love mine!

    • @DirEnGay
      @DirEnGay Рік тому +2

      @@MorecookiesFR You're accusing me of complaining or what? Would you love yours if it had dead pixels? For the price of it, I'm not going to accept a faulty one day one. From what I played on it, it seemed great but I had warranty to get a replacement. It's a consumer right lol.

    • @aussieknuckles
      @aussieknuckles Рік тому

      Great comment.

  • @h15c0r3r
    @h15c0r3r Рік тому +1

    Very good video, I certainly went into this with expectations that were too high. I had the original PSVR and I am a bit disappointed with my new headset, mostly with the blurriness and mura that like you said doesn’t seem to have been mentioned in many reviews. I’m looking forward to Switchback but am a little worried with it being so dark, the mura in Resident Evil Village when walking through the forest at night seemed really bad to me.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Рік тому

      You do get more used to it!

  • @randybradley4151
    @randybradley4151 Рік тому

    My PSVR 2 was blurry AF at first but then I adjusted it on my face and it made it quite a bit clearer. Also that bluriness many are experiencing is called foveated rendering.

  • @markwickham3698
    @markwickham3698 Рік тому +1

    Absolutely Bob on Kireth! Totally get this! Come into braking points and find myself squinting to see the boards, but takes nothing away from the feelings you get, much like the wheel, it's simply immersion! I've had some moments in a few games on vr2 where you feel part of the game! Moving my arm in real life to view the cockpit details etc haha!

  • @alanriordan
    @alanriordan Рік тому +6

    Finally a video telling the truth. My expectations were pretty high, so when I put it on I was disappointed and nearly worried I had a defective unit. If I had seen this video before buying I would have been much less excited but still buying! Thanks for this video.

  • @jaroca784
    @jaroca784 Рік тому +14

    I assume most of the big reviewers have had previous experiences with VR, so they already know the limitations of the technology and reviewed the PSVR2 thru that lens so to speak. When you compare the fidelity of GT7 on PSVR2 to any native Quest game or really anything that isn't a PCVR setup that cost 4x more than the PS5/Headset combo, the visuals are outstanding. On the other hand if you never experienced VR and only had videos online as a reference point I can understand if your expectations weren't quite met. I myself have been using VR for a few years now and GT7 is by far the best experience I've had, Assetto Corsa and my PCVR setup are going to be collecting dust for the foreseeable future.

    • @mhaster87
      @mhaster87 Рік тому

      U wrote what I wanted to write exactly. That's exactly why the raved about it and also why I also rave about it. To be fair I did see some reviews where they highlighted the general limitations of the technology just incase a non vr user was watching

  • @MsUltraBob
    @MsUltraBob Рік тому +2

    Good video I absolutely love the Psvr2 and it’s right now my favourite way to play video games. But because of my extremely high expectations from the reviews I was a bit disappointed at the beginning that the Picture wasn’t as sharp as a 4k tv screen. Still an awesome headset and a huge upgrade from the Psvr1.

  • @sanderheijselaar5687
    @sanderheijselaar5687 Рік тому +3

    I agree, but the view on a TV doesn't do the PSVR2 justice, event though the grapics are beter, the emersion compensates that completely (and more) for me.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Рік тому +1

      3D effect is next level 🙌🙌🙌

  • @tomtower
    @tomtower Рік тому

    Thanks so much for explaining that. I thought I was the only one that was appearing a little bit blurry not as clear as it is on the TV anyway. I just got it an hour ago. It also making me motion sickness. Lol it is a trip it feels like you're really there.

  • @EyeForKnowledge.
    @EyeForKnowledge. 11 місяців тому

    Another thing people need to be aware of is how delicate the lenses are. I’ve had mine less than two weeks and i found skin oil from I imagine my eyelashes on the lenses. I’ve used only high quality kens cloths to clean them and what I have found is that they don’t remove the oil. They just kind of smear it around making it more blurry. Then after inspecting, I also find micro swirling on the lenses from what I can imagine is fine dust particles being rubbed onto the lenses. I sent it back and am getting another one. This time I ordered some HonsVR glass lens inserts that fit on top of the VR lenses. This way I can remove those, clean them and not worry about those scratches due to it being glass. It’s a much harder surface than plastic and will take a lot more to scratch them than fine dust particles. That, and I can use lens wipes to clean the oil off without worrying about removing the anti glare coating on the VR lenses. I have accepted the image isn’t going to be crystal clear. That’s fine. I love the immersion and experience. I just don’t want anything to make the image any more blurry. So I think these lens protectors are going to be the answer. I’ve heard nothing but good things about them. Thoughts? Appreciate the video and the honesty. Only real review I have found so far. Subscribed.

  • @AdamCardinal
    @AdamCardinal Рік тому +1

    As a PSVR2 owner, I really like the comment ‘when the sun comes out, I feel it’, that’s exactly how it is for me, you are correct about the visuals and the social misunderstanding of what they are really like, it’s true, but the bigger piece really for me is how it makes me feel! I now feel like I am getting into the cars!

  • @graznardolillo4589
    @graznardolillo4589 Рік тому

    Once I tried the PSVR2 l scoured the internet to try and find out why the image was so blurry and was really disappointed the mura effect was not fixed from PSVR1. The sweet spot is also very small. I immediately put on my META quest 2 and there is no mura effect due to the LCD panels, it was instantly noticeable. At $550.00 I think I'm going to tmreturn mine and wait for a massive price drop. I'm really happy with my Meta Quest 2

  • @Uncle-Quinns-Garage
    @Uncle-Quinns-Garage Рік тому +1

    As a PSVR 2 owner, I agree, although for me it's more of a slight motion blur on the edge of my perihelial vision.

  • @nottoogoo
    @nottoogoo Рік тому

    Can the game be patched to properly adjust the visuals to increase the pixels or maybe make the farther objects have larger pixels too make them look sharper at a distance and as you move the would become smaller and more sharp?

  • @aj_bary2044
    @aj_bary2044 Рік тому

    I had the exact same thoughts on mine. I just got it and my first thought was it doesn’t have great resolution at depth. I looks great on things up close

  • @shenmeowzo
    @shenmeowzo Рік тому

    Well said. The same thing happened at the start of the 1st gen of VR.. loads of people trying it for the first time were surprised it wasn't as clear as watching a 55inch 4K TV 7 feet away from you in the living room lol.
    Loving the PSVR2. Yea it takes a minute to get the sweet spot right, and it's very easily lost, but yea it can look great.

  • @raytaylor4199
    @raytaylor4199 Рік тому +3

    Definitely felt disappointed the first time I put the headset on because I was used to my LgC1 TV. But within 30 mins after playing gt7 I realised that’s it’s everything else you get, the realism, the smoothness, I’m so much more aware of the speed and where I am on the road, when to brake compared to the TV, I don’t think it makes you faster, it makes it real, I’ve noticed quite a few UA-camrs that play GT7 semi professionally, like SuperGT, won’t use the VR headset a lot, I’ll bet you because of the realism it does make you just slightly slower. I do love my headset, never had the psvr1, no regrets now and I know I’ll be using it most of the time.

  • @PLYR_JET
    @PLYR_JET Рік тому

    Y’all are playing at 120hz right? Sony overlooked a slight software issue where 120hz is only available if you turn it off for the PS5 (and then turn it back on after you’ve enabled it for psvr2). I haven’t played gt7 yet, but looking forward to it

  • @M1tZk1
    @M1tZk1 Рік тому

    GT7 feels really good in VR2 but my favourite game so far has to be Pavlov VR. Once you get used to it it's just such a surreal experience. You have to reload your weapons by actually reloading it and not only pressing a button. Every time I get a new weapon I have to take a few seconds to actually learn how to reload that thing. Trying to counter the spray patterns while shooting is nothing new but it's different in this game. It's just a blast.
    I also dipped my toes a bit into Ni Mans Sky but got motion sickness after I first tried to fly the ship. Need to tweek the settings a bit before I can continue to play that game.

  • @alexamir31
    @alexamir31 Рік тому +2

    I don’t get why they made the HALO see-through in VR since perspective kind of does it naturally. Anyway, I was disappointed for an hour or so until I finally adapted to the level of detail in VR and I can’t go back 👌🏻

  • @ericcarlon
    @ericcarlon Рік тому

    This is exactly what happened to me. I was going to return my unit until I tried GT7 and was blown away by how real it felt. Also there is no setting or anything to adjust which was confusing at first. You just go to a race like normal and it’s automatically in VR mode.

  • @RunSwimFly
    @RunSwimFly Рік тому +8

    Well said, particularly liked the comparison with a dream like state. Nice to have some affirmation, was beginning to wonder if I was missing something. My lap times and race results are similar in VR but thinking I will probably spend more time on screen for convenience, comfort and clarity despite the lesser immersion. Still happy with the purchase, GT7 have done a good job but dedicated titles such as Horizon Call of the Mountain necessarily leverage the VR mechanic in a more essential fashion.

    • @vgaportauthority9932
      @vgaportauthority9932 Рік тому

      If you want to get faster in VR, forget all your braking points and start driving through intuition instead. You'll find that you can actually brake later than you think, you can also pick up on slides before they even start, so you can be more on the edge.
      Easy to bring bad flat habits into VR because we're so used to racing a track a certain way. If all your braking points were perfect already, VR won't bring much.
      Where VR truly shines is in racing that isn't so robotic as GT racing and F1 etc. In racing disciplines where you need to CONSTANTLY correct yourself, such as rally or drifting, VR is absolutely amazing. My drifting improved SUBSTANTIALLY when I got my VR headset. Try some of the drifting challenges if you struggled with them on flat, you might be amazed.

  • @Fei4Zai2Ce1San4
    @Fei4Zai2Ce1San4 Рік тому

    Totally agree, VR is like a cinema projector screen surrounding me with radius only 3 feet, of course it’s not as clear as a 4K monitor, the pixel pitch is totally different to our eyes

  • @hi_im_tyke
    @hi_im_tyke Рік тому +12

    Well said! It was so surprising to put the headset on, and immediately pick up issues, particularly when Digital Foundry is singing such high praises. Mura is probably the biggest one, especially in darker/grey games like Resident Evil. More surprising since the halo Horizon tech demo, which starts with a bag over your head, has one of the worst examples of Mura. Never good when an issue is so obvious that it makes you think your product is faulty... After playing for a night, I tried our Rift S at work the following day, and although the pixel density is lower, vibrancy is lower, and the FOV is less, the lens sharpness is massively better and easier to hit. No ghosting, no Mura... PSVR2 is great, and GT7 is amazing, but how the more technically sharp reviewers didn't raise the ghosting and Mura issues right away is really strange to me. Also, what good is foveated rendering when looking to the side is a blurry, chromatic aberration mess anyways :D Thanks for the videos!

    • @kevo1978
      @kevo1978 Рік тому

      What ghosting?
      I've spent approximately 40hrs on mine over 3 games and I've never seen any ghosting whatsoever.
      Also, your peripheral vision is blurry in real life when you look to the side, why would you expect it to be razor sharp through the vr headset??

    • @ronignino
      @ronignino Рік тому

      ​@@kevo1978peripheral vision is blurry till you turn your eyes... In psvr 2 is you try to do that it's going to be blurry anyway. The only way for peripheral vision become sharp is to lock your eyes and turn your head instead. Which is kinda counter intuitive and hard to adapt and soenst make any sense for something that are trying to reply até reality. I just hope in the future they would find a solution for that and improve graphics quality.

    • @kevo1978
      @kevo1978 Рік тому

      @@ronignino eh?!

    • @ronignino
      @ronignino Рік тому

      @@kevo1978 you said peripheral vision is blurry irl, I agree . But it's only blurry till you point your eyes to it. Then it's going to focus . In psvr2 moving your eyes to the peripheral vision zone, won't get focus , unless you move your head, and point directly . Since irl we don't do that ,using the headset and having to do that is counter intuitive and breaks the immersion. Idk if I am making myself clear.

    • @kevo1978
      @kevo1978 Рік тому

      @@ronignino the eye tracking on psvr2 deals with this though?
      It knows where your eyes are looking so when you look at your peripheral it does focus

  • @shawnhenaman6448
    @shawnhenaman6448 Рік тому +1

    100% agree with this video. Headset is amazing but isn't nearly as crisp ad playing on a tv but the experience of feeling like your actually there in the game is such an amazing feeling!

  • @ProfoundProductions
    @ProfoundProductions Рік тому

    Can’t wait to see some reviews on the new prescription lens inserts to see if they help.

  • @xiiirob
    @xiiirob Рік тому

    Would love to see how you recorded the actual visuals!

  • @harishadzimesic7168
    @harishadzimesic7168 6 місяців тому

    Just bought one few days ago. I think it depends on the game and what you do in it. My first game is Thumper where you more stationary, head is only looking straight so it looks perfect, amazing experience. I have yet to play something more frenetic movement wise like GT7 to experience anything blurry or any visual defect. Also the set up is very important to get a sharper picture; had to tweak it constantly. I think you have to do it individually for every game to get the eye tracking right, experiment with it. And i absolutely adore the set.

  • @Joel7337
    @Joel7337 Рік тому

    I have also noticed that some cars looks more realistic inside the cockpit and are more precise. Try for example The McLaren MP4/4 in the legends VR showroom, or KTM X-BOW R '12. These really blows your mind!

  • @Glement
    @Glement Рік тому

    don't forget adjustments, they are also important, this is my first vr headset and first time putting it on it was very blurry and had a rainbow, but after adjusting it and properly positioning it it became much better (game: Horizon Call of The Mountain )

  • @randymarshole
    @randymarshole Рік тому

    Tried VR in the early days is it still like looking though a port hole?

  • @384rfbb
    @384rfbb Рік тому +2

    I sold my psvr2. It's very immersive but too blurry and pixelated. It was my first vr ever and I expected more tbh. For those who already have a vr headset, psvr2 will most likely be an upgrade.

  • @MrRiceGuy95
    @MrRiceGuy95 Рік тому +1

    I wish I saw this video before I got my PSVR2 because the footage I watched and the channels that released the footage not once mentioned the visual downgrade. The downgrade was immediately apparent to me when I used the headset, it’s much blurrier with less detailed textures and car models. Weather effects also look worse and motion blur on opponents cars is pretty bad with severe ghosting. I was honestly quite let down with my time on GT7 in Vr

  • @Sarato
    @Sarato Рік тому

    I also have a PSVR 2 headset and thought it was defective. Now I realize it's just a flaw of putting lenses in front of your eyes. Thank you! You've earned a new subscriber!😊

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Рік тому

      Awesome, now enjoy!!!

  • @donaldmyers6657
    @donaldmyers6657 Рік тому +1

    Thank you. I was about to go get new glasses because everyone said it was crystal clear and I couldn't get it there.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Рік тому +1

      Hope it helps!!

  • @bobbymcgee1823
    @bobbymcgee1823 Рік тому

    love mine.. Still blown away.. I own a real C6 Corvette ZO6 that I track sometimes.. and I tell you Driving the C6 ZR1 is the closest thing I have felt without being at the actual track.. I have lost some pace running VR over 2d...But will jeber go back dur to the emersion I got now.. Super happy here

  • @virtualdreamer3448
    @virtualdreamer3448 Рік тому +1

    Good that you point that out. But the psvr2 display itself can show verry sharp images. When you watch recorded gameplay of 2D Gran Turismo 7 in 4K, it's looking razor sharp.After all i expected a near 4K Image Quality with the help of foveated rendering. I hope for a PS5 Pro with maybe 5K and then downsampled, to reach the 4K 2D Fidelity.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Рік тому +1

      Reprojection affects the image quality 🙌

  • @drblitz3092
    @drblitz3092 Рік тому +1

    It’s more blurry than I hoped especially in re8. Only reason I’m not returning it is because I do support vr and look forward to where it’s headed in the future and I wanna play switchback

  • @joelou
    @joelou Рік тому

    Great, honest video. I be curious to learn how u captured that footage. Anyways, great job

  • @Lewdo.
    @Lewdo. Рік тому +1

    At first my issue was the headset not staying on my head properly, I had to constantly adjust it, but then I tried wearing a bandana, that helped for a few mins then I decided to get my headset instead of using the included ear buds, this solved my problem. Still a bit uncomfortable on my nose but not a deal breaker. As for the quality, yeah it’s not incredible, but it is so damn immersive, especially with a racing wheel set up. Don’t get me wrong it definitely still looks nice, it doesn’t look horrible as long as you keep your vision in your he sweet spot, but the enjoyment of being in these cars and racing with others online is really something else.
    Let me put it this way, today I did some night races through the Tokyo highway in go carts against other players. A full go cart race in Japan, it was so fun and it was like being right there in the cart. You can’t get an experience this immersive and fun anywhere else. At first I was thinking of returning the headset, but I decided to give it a chance and work out the kinks just to make sure it was the decision I wanted to make.
    In the end, I’m happy with the headset, it could be better, but the amount of enjoyment I’ve gotten out of it has made the purchase so worth it.
    All that matter with gaming is that you’re having fun, and the psvr2 has managed to accomplish that for me.
    If people are having issues and are debating the return, my suggestion is to make sure you’ve tried everything to make it better first. If it doesn’t work out, then it just isn’t for you, nothing wrong with that. But definitely give it a chance before you give up on it completely.

  • @mcgenetics515
    @mcgenetics515 Рік тому

    I've added a Woojer Strap 3 to the VR mix. I'm wearing it on my back, and it adds another level of immersion. Like you can feel the rumble of the car.

  • @silent-ninja837
    @silent-ninja837 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for posting this. The blurriness isn't what bothers me. What bothered me was this lingering thought that my unit might possibly be defective and I wasn't getting the full intended experience. Even after numerous reddit threads and comments I still wasn't sure. All things considered it is pretty mind blowing and I gladly embrace it's flaws. Just imagine where we will be in 10 more years?

  • @krisjanneman
    @krisjanneman Рік тому +3

    I'm really happy to see this video is getting the attention that it does. Yes the psvr2 might be sharp COMPARED to a lot of other headsets, but the reality is that it also has some of the same problems as even the psvr1. Mainly, that everything that is further away from you in the virtual world looks A LOT more blurry than in real life.

    • @Kireth
      @Kireth  Рік тому

      Thanks ma - appreciate it!!