The Government said they are going to change the laws regards making them face there victims,they have known for ages this despicable crimes had been coming up why have they waited so long she is a remorseless coward .
It’s disgraceful I hope the Government stops this from happening soon and those that commit such heinous crimes should be made to face the judge and listen to their sentences they have been given
If it was America even he would be in the dock, and face imprisonment. Yes nurses are given trust to do their work in peace but we have to acknowledge the hospital gave opportunity to kill to the nurse by giving the nurses space to work with no audit to medicines no surveillance cameras this nurse saw this and killed the babies.
@@imastaycoolThe OP proposes a situation where self control doesn't exist. The reply takes that a step further to demonstrate its absurdity. Seems perfectly reasonable to me.
An American, here. This is one of the best and most well-written judge's statements I've heard in a very long time. Much admiration to this judge for his verbal remarks.
This is typical of a judge's sentencing remarks in England.I worked in the English court system for many years and witnessed many excellent judges.I can't help comparing our British judges with American judges as seen on UA-cam,there is no comparison in most cases.
@@Gillby47 I totally totally agree. I am a U.S. teacher, and I've also had 2 teachers in my family history: 1 from about 40 years ago and another one, believe it or not who was a teacher during the 19th century!!! One of the things that was always passed down to me was a love of good writing and good scholarship as well. In a lot of instances my thought processes and my approach to writing leans more towards the British model rather, than American English. As a matter of fact, growing up in school I was chided on a regular basis. People thought that my way of thinking, speaking and writing was too proper for them to comprehend. The reason why I say that is because my grandmother who raised me was actually taken under the wing of a young immigrant visiting British teacher back in the 1930s and 1940s. Whereas many other teachers did not want to assist my grandmother because of the cultural difference (my grandmother being: 1/2 American, 1/2 French with a partially literate mother, and a foreign-born - non-English speaking father), it was hard for my grandmother to get ahead in school because her English-speaking and her writing ability was so bad. However, sadly during that time of American History nobody that was Caucasian was going to waste any of their time on a mixed-race little girl and help them succeed in life much less in school. My grandmother's biggest ray of sunshine was the British teacher that she had in English oh so many years ago. Right up until when she passed away, my grandmother always spoke of the young English teacher that she met. She said this woman spent every available moment that she had working with my grandmother to bring my grandmother up to an acceptable education level. Or shall I say as you put it in England my grandmother was 'brought up to scratch'. LOL. Having such a dedicated and caring person as that in my grandmother's life made all the difference to her in the world. She never ever forgot that wonderfully kind individual who had such a large and meaningful impact in her young formative life.
@@manuellubian5709this is a beautiful tribute you pay both to the teacher and your grandmother. The kindly British woman who truly put service into practice and changed the life of a vulnerable mixed race little girl. Her intervention in turn improved the prospects of future generations. I hope your story of light, goodness and service can bring some sense of comfort to British people at this time of such darkness, unimaginable malice and murder carried out by a very British young woman.
At the end of the day it ain't about money or anything else, it's about a culture of cover up and how far reaching is this in other departments and how far up the chain does that go, I grew in social services and the amount of cover up was insane. Or how the DWP not realising it's finding on how benefit sanctions affects those on incapticy benefits. I can't say anymore I don't want to get in trouble and just want a quiet life.
I really just can’t even begin to imagine the pain for the rest of their lives. Also the doctors who totally ignored the other doctors warnings about her being sus should face punishment in some way too.
I have lost a 34 year old son through evil, I am unable to describe mine, and my other child's loss, yet even we cannot begin to imagine the heartache, pain, and deep grief these poor parents are going through, and will continue to suffer for the rest of their broken lives. Letby is a sociopathatic narcicist murdering monster, whom is not even fit to live amongst other inmates. She should be locked in solitude for the rest of her life, along with all the management that totally ignored the other doctors, whom courageously sounded the alarm. Our minds blown away at how a hospital could allow such horror to occur 😮.
@@shazanali692 Many of her colleagues had taken their concerns to management, but were told to keep quiet otherwise there would be consequences. They were even forced to issue an apology to her in person.
Having read the statements and evidence, the hospital CEO Tony Chambers should be charged in some capacity. Forced doctors who flagged her up as the problem to apologise to her. Not to mention took a 1.5m payday then sacked it all off.
Absolutely agree. Just as guilty, imagine worrying about your damn job or litigation more than the lives of innocent babies... just as evil and psychopathic as that sorry excuse of a human that MURDERED those babies..... plus she should have been MADE to sit in that courtroom not allowed to skulk away like the sick coward she is....
As a mother, this is in my worst nightmares and I can’t comprehend losing my baby at the hands of someone supposedly taking care of my baby and helping them to live and get through the worst time of their life. Absolutely abhorrent. May she rot in hell for all eternity.
She was not given a fair trial. The whole story was kept from the jury. 15 babies died, Lucy was not on duty when 8 of them died. So if Lucy killed 7, WHO killed the other 8????
@@peaceout1453if one consultant raised the concern to the manager, I’ll give her the benefit of doubt. But half a dozen of them?! C’mon, they are professionals and they are closest to the neonatal than others.
What if she's actually innocent. You do know she didn't get a fair trial. And that whilst when Lucy was taken off the unit the deaths went down then they went up again. You've got all the facts haven't you? You do know the unit were taking on babies that they were too prem for this unit? You do know that the evidence was purely circumstantial? A total miscarriage of justice. You do know the reports in this hospital unit was dire? You know that Lucy had actually complained about the terrible situation the management of the Countess of Chester had put them in? You do know that raw sewerage was coming through the ceiling at one point? The unit was a catastrophe. But no one listened. Even consultant's said nothing until Lucy complained about the state of things, only THEN did the accusations against her come. You do know that one of the consultants had don't a medical procedure but had not done it correctly, when questioned about it he said, "well it is as near as it should be!"
All of my love to all of those in this case. The parents and families who have been through such unimaginable trauma. The jury, the judge, everyone involved for bringing justice to bear. You are in my heart.
In 1984 in a local hospital a nurse took my day old baby away and tried to tube feed him against my wishes because he was sleepy and didn’t want to breastfeed within the four hour “ set ‘ time. (He was my third bub} (I seem to produce extra rich milk where my bubs could sleep for 5 -6 hours after a feed). She forcibly took him and she placed a feeding tube in his trachea and filled his lungs with fluid. He died and they resuscitated him, he was gone from me for hours, I was frantic. . I won’t even go into the drama in our family after that tragedy. He’s 38 and we still have to deal with his stroke”.
Omg!!! I hope you sued the ass off the hospital. That poor child to endure such a procedure & the outcome is disgusting. You must have been frantic & going crazy with worry!! Both of you traumatised for life !! I'm so very sorry this happened, makes me cry thinking of it. 🙏🩵🙏
I'm a Mum and a Nan. The idea of harming a child is absolutely disgusting. She should've been made to face the families during sentencing..I can only hope there is a very special place in Hell for this poor excuse of a human being
@@jackiebilder9523 She refused to attend. I think she should not have had an option, she should have been dragged kicking and screaming in there and made to listen.
Everyone says she was friendly and sociable and they never suspected she would be a murderer, but I BET there were people who called that she was a narcissist before all this began.
Yes!!! These types find it easy to manipulate and make others believe they're angels when they're pure evil. You're definitely right that there's people out there who had seen through her mask.
Nurses gossip like true professionals behind closed doors. I am certain other nurses she worked with had suspicions especially considering she was involved in multiple deaths closely spaced. Out of the blue deaths don't happen very often at all in NICU. For the most part if it's a standard premature baby they follow a predictable course of development. Of course younger gestation babies have a harder time given the immaturity of their organs and associated complications with their care. But babies don't just die out of the blue. If they do its usually preceeded by something like overwhelming sepsis or NEC and these conditions have warning signs that will most likely be picked up by changes in vital signs that you get reviewed straight away if you suspect something is awry.
I thought the Judge covered this evil crime well and passed the only sentence possible. Unlike others, I do not believe in capital punishment simply because mistakes have been made in the past and some who have spent a very long time in Prison have later been cleared
You care so little about these babies and their families that you're happy to leave this woman relaxing in comfortable surroundings for decades, while their parents suffer permanent agony every day. When somebody is "cleared", that doesn't usually mean they are innocent. It means some technicality like their lawyer was incompetent, or they were not the triggerman, or they DID attack the victim but THEIR bullet was not the fatal one, etc.
Maybe a greater punishment is to let her spend the next 60 years in a prison cell. ….. thinking about her crime and what she gave up. Putting her to sleep would be too easy.
@@mhandisimobile2440 there isn't much support for the death penalty, plus vengeance is not exactly justice. The judge did the best thing, locked her up and threw away the key
I agree: capital punishment is too easy, as soon as you're dead your punishment is over. Much worse for a person to spend the rest of their lives in a small room, alone, with only their own thoughts for company and no distraction from them; and then you die. That's real punishment.
She shld be made to attend her trial! Those parents can’t escape the pain of their loss so you shld be made to literally face the consequences. She makes me sick! I pray for the families of these poor children.
Praise to the judge for reading it out so well controlled, calm and clear. Would’ve been easy to speak angrily or dramatically. Seriously respectable judge.
You're referencing American judges. British judges are always like this one so you don't appear to have much knowledge of the judicial systems in the UK.
All those poor families. No words would express what they are going through right now. It’s one thing learning your child has died, it’s another thing learning that your child was murdered. RIP little ones, may you be protected xx
Surely negligence charges also need to brought against managerial and executive staff that should have intervened much sooner! Thank god the Drs persisted in getting the police involved, if one good thing comes of this it should be the fact that the NHS needs more attention now more than ever.
@@deborahcoveney8846 couldn't agree more, I've worked for the NHS in the past mate at stepping hill stockport trust. And the amount of managers and executives and chief executive and operations mangers was a total joke, all of whom were hard to reach, unorganised and self lorded big wigs which had no clue what was actually going on in the hospital. There is a massive systemic operation problem right now with too much management. The problem with trusts is their elected members are place there by donners and actually operate independently from a national body which is just nuts considering it's paid for by national taxes. in short too many chiefs not enough Indians!!! And people need to act now before we lose the NHS to privatisation, surely one good things to come from this tragedy is for people to wake up and start getting more involved right
What this nurse has done to those precious beautiful tiny premature babies is beyond belief it is horrific and unbelievable and those poor families are in my prayers and thoughts. I don’t know how that judge and also those jurors who had to listen to what she had done could hear it and the judge was amazingly composed giving out the sentence she deserved but this will never be forgotten by the victims and their parents god bless them 😢😭a very distressing case.
They will never be right even though they must go in. It’s HELL for THEM. There’s no punishment enough for what she’s done and how MANY she has affected
Why wpuld you have remorse cause a bunch of 'consultants' managed to use smoke and mirrors to cover their own failures and get you convicted of things u didnt do?
It's beyond comprehension how a person we trust can bring about such distress. My heart aches for the families involved; may this verdict offer them a hint of relief and justice. 🙏 - "Life is a train with no return journey. From a small bed when we were born to a small box when we leave the world, we can take nothing away. What we enjoy is just a process. In this process, nothing can be kept. Therefore, we must learn to overcome troubles and abandon attachments. In this world, we need to be enlightened from the heart, to change ourselves, to see through quickly, and to be enlightened. Many people can't let go of their attachments throughout their lives: "This is mine, that's mine." In the end, there is nothing left. To overcome your own desires, you will not regret tomorrow." - Guan Yin Citta Dharma Door Master Lu
A full life term, meaning she will die in prison, is the best result a civilised society can expect from our legal system. I can understand that many would wish for the death penalty and I respect your opinions, but that is not how our legal system works, and not something I can support even in a case like this. A lifetime spent in a high security prison where all she can do is reflect on the evil she has done. I will accept that as justice and hope that this brings some comfort to the families of her victims.
Agree she should suffer but that should be at the execution. Tax payers money would be much better spent helping those in need. I can't imagine how much it will cost to keep her locked up until she dies!
All those hospital trust management and other personnel who refused to deal with concerns raised about lucy letby are complicit in the deaths and injuries of those babies. They should also face trial, and banned from working in any care situation again.
Aside from the murders she also damaged the profession of Nurse maybe beyond repair for a lot of time. It will take a long time until parentd will trust nurses again...if ever.
Very true and sad. I've given birth twice via c section meaning I can't walk in the first 2 days and in hospital for 4. It makes me think that I should've had someone with me the entire time. What if when I was sleep or when I left my baby with a nurse...that she was a psychopath? I'm so traumatised by this case that when my sister has hers, I'm not leaving her side.
Not long after open heart surgery with nothing but the utmost admiration and respect for the those who sorted and cared for me. My heart goes out to the parents of their precious children who suffered at the hands of this killer.
Can't understand anyone who hurts babies, especially ones who are sick. So glad I have normal maternal instincts. I really feel for all the families and cry to think these babies suffered before this monster killed them. Hope her life in prison is miserable and terrifying. Still think she shouldn't be isolated from other prisoners - why should she be protected when no one at the hospital protected these tiny babies. Doctors tried, but the hospital blocked them - administrators involved need jail time and immediate sacking
The judge's sentencing statement is both profound and heart wrenching. How could she be so callous and evil to inflict not only harm, but also major physical pain to those innocent babies?
It’s strange that we may never know the true reason why she did this, I really want to know her twisted reasons as to why. Can’t imagine how the families must feel. The sooner legislation can be passed to force these people into the dock for sentencing the better. She’s already been found guilty. She’s going to be forced into a cell for the rest of her life, why can’t they force her to the dock for sentencing?
Perhaps it is the attitude of this generation towards legalized abortion snd this is just an outward manifestation spilling over from that ideology? I had someone threaten my unborn baby with a curse and when she was stillborn this person laughed and sneered at me saying she had more power than God. It was 3 years into the legalization of abortion in the US. There is blood on al lot of people's hands.
Can I just express my disgust to You Tube as well. I appreciate you need revenue from advertising, but with something as sensitive and as profound as this, you could have waived them here, but no. Half way through Mr Justice Goss's summing up, a stupid advert pops up. Totally inappropriate. I am very disappointed. Show some respect.
I think that prisoners who refuse to be present in the Court room for their sentencing and to hear the Personal Impact Statements of the people whose lives they have shattered, should have to watch and listen to it in their cell, via video link. I absolutely DO NOT believe that using physical force is the answer.
Agreed, I hope they change this based on this case. Of course they could forcibly drag the accused to court but the ones like that are likely to need dragging are also likely to be a disturbance/danger physically/verbally in court to others which causes further distress to families and eventual removal anyway. I do hate that it looks like they're getting the option to skip school as it were... so having a live video feed into a guarded cell where the prisoner is supervised so they can't do anything to the TV to stop listening seems like the best solution. They can't avoid serving the ACTUAL sentence anyway, whether they heard it or not... and the less time the victim's families spend in this person's presence the better, imo. She's frustratingly inscrutable.
What kind of a court system is this that allows the accused not to have to show up for their sentencing??? So irresponsible! The judge here was so awesome in his delivery!
This has been touched on before, but so many lives have been affected by the ripple effect of the murders, and I firmly believe that the death penalty should be reinstated. The babies had no choice in the matter. We do, and to keep that creature alive for the rest of her life at around £40,000 a year is a reminder that the law is lacking in this day and age.
In the U.S., she’s be forced to be present and I think that is reasonable. She has rights, but she has far less rights now than she had before her conviction, as it should be. She is now a ward of the state, and they have every right to tell her where to be, within reason. This was reasonable, to force her to be at sentencing and hear victim impact statements.
Oh my god, I came out prematurely and had a series of complications when I was born, I almost died of phenomena when I was a week old, and I spent the first two months of my life in an incubator.
I will never understand humanity & its propensity to commit such evil cruel heinous acts of violence towards its fellow man, she should be kept in total isolation for the rest of her days.
Because the world is full of idiots and conspiracy, theorists, and even in cases where there's irrefutable evidence, there's always someone who pops up and imagines the person is innocent. Those people are to be ignored.
She will be high category and will now become a lab rat to many physicians and therapists around the world that want to know more about this condition, she will be looked after just like Hannibal was
@@Michellemutts7848 I agree with you. However, we are supposed to be civilised people, so rotting in clink for the rest of her miserable life will have to suffice. It will be no picnic for her, that's for sure, and she has 40 or 50 years to think about it.
This is absolutely heartbreaking and awful. My heart goes to these innocent families and teams. It’s appalling that even a doctor and colleagues were continually muted. Thank God and human caring for stopping that thing
Although in general I do not like the death penalty, I firmly believe there is a line, if crossed, the death penalty is the only justice. She went way over that line.
How is it that she could choose to not show up for this?! What a slap in the face for the victim's parents! Her crimes were so horrific that she should have been made to face the entire courtroom, standing up in shame! It's disgusting that she could choose.
Classy well spoken judge, the traditional wigs and gowns, i had to attend a trial in England many years ago and the judge and barristers wore exact same things then
I wish all the parents, victims, and relations all the very best. All the love in the world to each of you ❤ I am so sorry that this evil person crossed your paths, I hope that you can all find peace when the time is right for you. It's not much, but it's the best I can say. We're all thinking of you. Do take care ❤️
Considering that she took the time to follow the grieving parents of her victims online and even send of them a card on the funeral day, I think her sadistic tendencies would have made being forced to hear the families in court, something she might have enjoyed. In turn that would have been even more violent for the families. Also I wonder what she did before 2015, as I read that other families suspect her of having tried to kill their babies before that period of time.
That's what people probably said about Lucia de Beer. Like Lucy accused of killing 7 babies. She was later proved innocent. This trial was based on circumstances, NOT facts.
"I don't feel like attending the sentencing" - Lucy "No problem, we'll start without you." - Judge "I also don't feel like attending prison." - Lucy "No problem, we'll start without you." - Judge
@@river8760Yup.. If there's any justice, she will be left alone and unguarded 3 times a year for the next 20 years. Always healing from a tough beating.
She’s definitely a danger to society and I think the sentence correctly reflects that. At the same time I can’t help but to wonder what made her become cold blooded a child killer. People are much more likely to be made this way than born this way.
Some people are just wired wrong! Broken! No good runts! Her parents must have noticed something was off! But they look dowdy and as stiff and boring as their unremarkable devil child! She probably noticed lots in life that she didn’t have! Her life and appearances all seem boring boring boring! All that subconscious longing to taste more than vanilla and look more than beige manifested into a monster! Those babies where remarkable by the very nature of their birth, premature, ivf, twins, triplets! From day one, Letby resented that. Birth to 25 years she’d been nothing special ever!! and those babies had the audacity to stand out as special the minute they were born! She’s as mad as a bastard! Hope she rots in hell, oh and I hope they spit in her food in jail. RIP to those darling babies! And all the very best to the sweethearts that survived 🙏🏽
@@angelavolkov1126 Well, as far as I know there's quite a bit of evidence that it in certain cases can be based on both genetics coupled with specific childhood trauma (like mental or physical abuse) that "triggers" the genes in question (and it's apparently hundreds of them). In other words, no one's born a psychopath but might be born with a greater propensity to become one. I seem to remember reading somewhere that if a person with this propensity is left untraumatized would actually give the them the opposite traits, in other words extremely empathetic as supposed left with no empathy at all but I don't know how much truth there is to that.
Maybe don't have ads in a vid that is so deeply upsetting. Making money off such horrors doesn't seem right. I hope you donate every penny to a worthy cause!!!
It strikes me that a person guilty of murder can avoid hearing the sentence reading but the Home and Justice Secs focus on people protesting with blank paper.
It’s just another kick in the teeth to the family’s that she had the audacity & the right not to show up to court. Everyone on trial should be FORCED to attend court especially when being sentenced regardless whether they want to or not. Disgusting 😡
It’s disgusting that murderers have the power to refuse to face their sentence. Absolutely cowardly.
The Government said they are going to change the laws regards making them face there victims,they have known for ages this despicable crimes had been coming up why have they waited so long she is a remorseless coward .
They also have the right to remain silent. Both are symbols of an humane and exceptionally good legal system.
That evil bitch should have been cuffed and marched to the Dock.
It’s disgraceful I hope the Government stops this from happening soon and those that commit such heinous crimes should be made to face the judge and listen to their sentences they have been given
Because ultimately it doesn't matter, It is a performative process.
The CEO of the Hospital attempted a coverup and should then also be charged with Manslaughter.
YES
I agree… it’s just as bad imo… All those involved in the cover up should be jailed as well!
They were as bad as the Catholic Church.
@@Pfsifthat is a reasonable analogy- and the Catholic Church continues to fight victims.
If it was America even he would be in the dock, and face imprisonment. Yes nurses are given trust to do their work in peace but we have to acknowledge the hospital gave opportunity to kill to the nurse by giving the nurses space to work with no audit to medicines no surveillance cameras this nurse saw this and killed the babies.
I have enormous respect for that judge. I have no idea how he remained so composed
It's his job, what do you think he's gonna do, rip his cloak off, grab an envelope knife and run down to the cells and stab her up?
You can hear his voice wavering at some points so yeah I agree, it sounds like it affected him too
They have heard heinous crimes over a life time.
@@PAbloMoorziobeing stupidly dramatic doesn't suit anyone...
@@imastaycoolThe OP proposes a situation where self control doesn't exist. The reply takes that a step further to demonstrate its absurdity.
Seems perfectly reasonable to me.
An American, here. This is one of the best and most well-written judge's statements I've heard in a very long time. Much admiration to this judge for his verbal remarks.
This is typical of a judge's sentencing remarks in England.I worked in the English court system for many years and witnessed many excellent judges.I can't help comparing our British judges with American judges as seen on UA-cam,there is no comparison in most cases.
@@Gillby47The accent is always interesting for Americans
@@Gillby47Australians are thankful for the system that we inherited from the UK.
@@Gillby47 I totally totally agree. I am a U.S. teacher, and I've also had 2 teachers in my family history: 1 from about 40 years ago and another one, believe it or not who was a teacher during the 19th century!!!
One of the things that was always passed down to me was a love of good writing and good scholarship as well.
In a lot of instances my thought processes and my approach to writing leans more towards the British model rather, than American English. As a matter of fact, growing up in school I was chided on a regular basis. People thought that my way of thinking, speaking and writing was too proper for them to comprehend. The reason why I say that is because my grandmother who raised me was actually taken under the wing of a young immigrant visiting British teacher back in the 1930s and 1940s. Whereas many other teachers did not want to assist my grandmother because of the cultural difference (my grandmother being: 1/2 American, 1/2 French with a partially literate mother, and a foreign-born - non-English speaking father), it was hard for my grandmother to get ahead in school because her English-speaking and her writing ability was so bad. However, sadly during that time of American History nobody that was Caucasian was going to waste any of their time on a mixed-race little girl and help them succeed in life much less in school. My grandmother's biggest ray of sunshine was the British teacher that she had in English oh so many years ago. Right up until when she passed away, my grandmother always spoke of the young English teacher that she met. She said this woman spent every available moment that she had working with my grandmother to bring my grandmother up to an acceptable education level. Or shall I say as you put it in England my grandmother was 'brought up to scratch'. LOL.
Having such a dedicated and caring person as that in my grandmother's life made all the difference to her in the world. She never ever forgot that wonderfully kind individual who had such a large and meaningful impact in her young formative life.
@@manuellubian5709this is a beautiful tribute you pay both to the teacher and your grandmother. The kindly British woman who truly put service into practice and changed the life of a vulnerable mixed race little girl. Her intervention in turn improved the prospects of future generations. I hope your story of light, goodness and service can bring some sense of comfort to British people at this time of such darkness, unimaginable malice and murder carried out by a very British young woman.
Honeslty this doesn't surpirse me nor does not surprise me that management covered it up, I hope management is charged with corporate manslaughter.
Everyone who knew should be charged as an accessory to murder or whatever the UK equivalent to an accessory is.
The NHS has a track record of covering up. It won't change whilst we have weak management running the place.
@@larynOneka8080 Unlikely, but I could see the argument for putting gross-negligence manslaughter on the table.
The denial is all about the money.
At the end of the day it ain't about money or anything else, it's about a culture of cover up and how far reaching is this in other departments and how far up the chain does that go, I grew in social services and the amount of cover up was insane. Or how the DWP not realising it's finding on how benefit sanctions affects those on incapticy benefits. I can't say anymore I don't want to get in trouble and just want a quiet life.
How on earth do families of these babies ever come to terms with the fact their precious babies were murdered 😢
The become atheists.
@@Pfsif Hmmm different take. I know many agnostics but not atheists. Whats God got to do with a raving nutter?
They try to help others
I really just can’t even begin to imagine the pain for the rest of their lives. Also the doctors who totally ignored the other doctors warnings about her being sus should face punishment in some way too.
I have lost a 34 year old son through evil, I am unable to describe mine, and my other child's loss, yet even we cannot begin to imagine the heartache, pain, and deep grief these poor parents are going through, and will continue to suffer for the rest of their broken lives. Letby is a sociopathatic narcicist murdering monster, whom is not even fit to live amongst other inmates. She should be locked in solitude for the rest of her life, along with all the management that totally ignored the other doctors, whom courageously sounded the alarm. Our minds blown away at how a hospital could allow such horror to occur 😮.
The managers who told the consultants to keep quiet and apologise, when does their trial begin?
Does your mum look like a baby killer, NO. So I don't blame the management, how could they have known they had some Fred west type killer
They knew because the consultants told them.
@@shazanali692 Many of her colleagues had taken their concerns to management, but were told to keep quiet otherwise there would be consequences. They were even forced to issue an apology to her in person.
Having read the statements and evidence, the hospital CEO Tony Chambers should be charged in some capacity. Forced doctors who flagged her up as the problem to apologise to her. Not to mention took a 1.5m payday then sacked it all off.
100%
I wouldn't buy a second hand car of him.
Absolutely agree. Just as guilty, imagine worrying about your damn job or litigation more than the lives of innocent babies... just as evil and psychopathic as that sorry excuse of a human that MURDERED those babies..... plus she should have been MADE to sit in that courtroom not allowed to skulk away like the sick coward she is....
He also threatened them with dismissal and/or disciplinary action if they continued to complain.
As a mother, this is in my worst nightmares and I can’t comprehend losing my baby at the hands of someone supposedly taking care of my baby and helping them to live and get through the worst time of their life. Absolutely abhorrent. May she rot in hell for all eternity.
Agreed, and she should be SENT to hell as fast as possible at the gallows.
She was not given a fair trial. The whole story was kept from the jury. 15 babies died, Lucy was not on duty when 8 of them died. So if Lucy killed 7, WHO killed the other 8????
@@peaceout1453if one consultant raised the concern to the manager, I’ll give her the benefit of doubt. But half a dozen of them?! C’mon, they are professionals and they are closest to the neonatal than others.
I'm mother of 5 I'm telling ya one thing I'd love ta get hold of her omg ..
What if she's actually innocent. You do know she didn't get a fair trial. And that whilst when Lucy was taken off the unit the deaths went down then they went up again. You've got all the facts haven't you? You do know the unit were taking on babies that they were too prem for this unit? You do know that the evidence was purely circumstantial? A total miscarriage of justice. You do know the reports in this hospital unit was dire? You know that Lucy had actually complained about the terrible situation the management of the Countess of Chester had put them in? You do know that raw sewerage was coming through the ceiling at one point? The unit was a catastrophe. But no one listened. Even consultant's said nothing until Lucy complained about the state of things, only THEN did the accusations against her come. You do know that one of the consultants had don't a medical procedure but had not done it correctly, when questioned about it he said, "well it is as near as it should be!"
All of my love to all of those in this case. The parents and families who have been through such unimaginable trauma. The jury, the judge, everyone involved for bringing justice to bear. You are in my heart.
My deep condolences to all families who lost their loved ones and survivors who are true heroes ❤ RIP 🙏🏾
The fact she chose not to be here for the sentencing is just another way she thinks she can control her situation! What a psycho!
Or to show everyone she is nothing but a coward.
Agreed this is up there with the acts she did .
Sick how can she be trailed in absence.
@@Plantandpeoplecarer Rubbish! If you had been convicted on no evidence - how might you feel/react
@@DavidISHERWOOD-iu1xn there’s tonnes of evidence!
In 1984 in a local hospital a nurse took my day old baby away and tried to tube feed him against my wishes because he was sleepy and didn’t want to breastfeed within the four hour “ set ‘ time. (He was my third bub} (I seem to produce extra rich milk where my bubs could sleep for 5 -6 hours after a feed). She forcibly took him and she placed a feeding tube in his trachea and filled his lungs with fluid. He died and they resuscitated him, he was gone from me for hours, I was frantic. . I won’t even go into the drama in our family after that tragedy. He’s 38 and we still have to deal with his stroke”.
I'm so sorry, this is horrific😢
Omg!!! I hope you sued the ass off the hospital. That poor child to endure such a procedure & the outcome is disgusting. You must have been frantic & going crazy with worry!!
Both of you traumatised for life !! I'm so very sorry this happened, makes me cry thinking of it. 🙏🩵🙏
I'm a Mum and a Nan. The idea of harming a child is absolutely disgusting. She should've been made to face the families during sentencing..I can only hope there is a very special place in Hell for this poor excuse of a human being
Why wasn’t she there?
Don’t worry mam..there are..it is beyond worse than our prison here in this world..and its fuel are human bones…this type of people will be its fuel..
@@jackiebilder9523
She refused to attend. I think she should not have had an option, she should have been dragged kicking and screaming in there and made to listen.
Many mothers hurt their kids, physically but especially emotionally. I know very few who haven't.
Total respect to this judge for keeping his head in what must of been a situation he didnt want to be in...
Keeping his head? If he couldn't he has no place being a judge.
Everyone says she was friendly and sociable and they never suspected she would be a murderer, but I BET there were people who called that she was a narcissist before all this began.
Yes!!! These types find it easy to manipulate and make others believe they're angels when they're pure evil. You're definitely right that there's people out there who had seen through her mask.
Nurses gossip like true professionals behind closed doors. I am certain other nurses she worked with had suspicions especially considering she was involved in multiple deaths closely spaced. Out of the blue deaths don't happen very often at all in NICU. For the most part if it's a standard premature baby they follow a predictable course of development. Of course younger gestation babies have a harder time given the immaturity of their organs and associated complications with their care. But babies don't just die out of the blue. If they do its usually preceeded by something like overwhelming sepsis or NEC and these conditions have warning signs that will most likely be picked up by changes in vital signs that you get reviewed straight away if you suspect something is awry.
@@blackwidow8520doctors certainly had so I imagine nurses on an 8+ hr shift would have... problem is at the top
I thought the Judge covered this evil crime well and passed the only sentence possible. Unlike others, I do not believe in capital punishment simply because mistakes have been made in the past and some who have spent a very long time in Prison have later been cleared
You care so little about these babies and their families that you're happy to leave this woman relaxing in comfortable surroundings for decades, while their parents suffer permanent agony every day. When somebody is "cleared", that doesn't usually mean they are innocent. It means some technicality like their lawyer was incompetent, or they were not the triggerman, or they DID attack the victim but THEIR bullet was not the fatal one, etc.
Maybe a greater punishment is to let her spend the next 60 years in a prison cell. ….. thinking about her crime and what she gave up.
Putting her to sleep would be too easy.
@@mhandisimobile2440your comment is ridiculous. Think before you type.
@@mhandisimobile2440 there isn't much support for the death penalty, plus vengeance is not exactly justice. The judge did the best thing, locked her up and threw away the key
I agree: capital punishment is too easy, as soon as you're dead your punishment is over. Much worse for a person to spend the rest of their lives in a small room, alone, with only their own thoughts for company and no distraction from them; and then you die.
That's real punishment.
Honest to God, how the UK can allow convicts to NOT be forced to hear their sentencing is inconceivable.
I agree. However I am sure this is the case in some USA states.
It’s appalling, but the law is now in the process of being changed as a result of this case.
She shld be made to attend her trial! Those parents can’t escape the pain of their loss so you shld be made to literally face the consequences. She makes me sick! I pray for the families of these poor children.
This judge allowed evidence that he should have declared inadmissible. He allowed evidence he must have known was untrue.
Praise to the judge for reading it out so well controlled, calm and clear. Would’ve been easy to speak angrily or dramatically.
Seriously respectable judge.
Agreed Even he was welling up a bit, but showed composure.
Unlike some American judges whom I have seen shouting at prisoners during sentencing. Truly a childish country.
You're referencing American judges. British judges are always like this one so you don't appear to have much knowledge of the judicial systems in the UK.
It's his bloody job
So sorry for the families of all the babies that died may you get some peace and answers to all that happened
She is a cold calculated killer. Glad justice has been served.
For all those affected by this monster, I am so very sorry. My heart is with you all 💔
All those poor families. No words would express what they are going through right now. It’s one thing learning your child has died, it’s another thing learning that your child was murdered. RIP little ones, may you be protected xx
My heart absolutely dropped watching this. I hope the families will find peace ❤
Very well said I couldn't agree more. The families of these babies are in our thoughts and prayers.
Oh get a life.
Another boring commemt
@@IchaelGill I didn't realise the comments section was so important to you. Stay mad
@@martynw377 you're the one who reads them so how boring are you
Judge Goss should be in the dock after overseeing a trial which would not have been out of place in the 17th Century.
World respect for the judge's composure and sentencing. Well done!
Surely negligence charges also need to brought against managerial and executive staff that should have intervened much sooner! Thank god the Drs persisted in getting the police involved, if one good thing comes of this it should be the fact that the NHS needs more attention now more than ever.
Yes it needs to get eid two thirds of its managers too. Its to top heavy
@@deborahcoveney8846 couldn't agree more, I've worked for the NHS in the past mate at stepping hill stockport trust. And the amount of managers and executives and chief executive and operations mangers was a total joke, all of whom were hard to reach, unorganised and self lorded big wigs which had no clue what was actually going on in the hospital. There is a massive systemic operation problem right now with too much management. The problem with trusts is their elected members are place there by donners and actually operate independently from a national body which is just nuts considering it's paid for by national taxes. in short too many chiefs not enough Indians!!! And people need to act now before we lose the NHS to privatisation, surely one good things to come from this tragedy is for people to wake up and start getting more involved right
What this nurse has done to those precious beautiful tiny premature babies is beyond belief it is horrific and unbelievable and those poor families are in my prayers and thoughts. I don’t know how that judge and also those jurors who had to listen to what she had done could hear it and the judge was amazingly composed giving out the sentence she deserved but this will never be forgotten by the victims and their parents god bless them 😢😭a very distressing case.
They will never be right even though they must go in. It’s HELL for THEM. There’s no punishment enough for what she’s done and how MANY she has affected
IF she's done what they say. They didn't say 15 babies died, they said she killed 7. So WHO killed the other 8 babies???? The court case was a farce.
Incredible judge. He spoke and delivered perfectly.
Why wpuld you have remorse cause a bunch of 'consultants' managed to use smoke and mirrors to cover their own failures and get you convicted of things u didnt do?
It's really simple. You either listen to your sentencing, or it gets played on a loop in your cell for 24 hours. PICK ONE.
YES
Ooooh, I love it! Along with the families' impact statements....
Lucy Letby’s parents are in denial
I would imagine their world is collapsing as well...
@@violinstar5948 of course - why shouldn't they be?
RIP To The Babies And Condolences To Their Families 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
She got a whole life sentence for each baby she murdered. Good. It's exactly what she deserves.
It's beyond comprehension how a person we trust can bring about such distress. My heart aches for the families involved; may this verdict offer them a hint of relief and justice. 🙏
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"Life is a train with no return journey. From a small bed when we were born to a small box when we leave the world, we can take nothing away. What we enjoy is just a process. In this process, nothing can be kept. Therefore, we must learn to overcome troubles and abandon attachments. In this world, we need to be enlightened from the heart, to change ourselves, to see through quickly, and to be enlightened. Many people can't let go of their attachments throughout their lives: "This is mine, that's mine." In the end, there is nothing left. To overcome your own desires, you will not regret tomorrow." - Guan Yin Citta Dharma Door Master Lu
A full life term, meaning she will die in prison, is the best result a civilised society can expect from our legal system. I can understand that many would wish for the death penalty and I respect your opinions, but that is not how our legal system works, and not something I can support even in a case like this. A lifetime spent in a high security prison where all she can do is reflect on the evil she has done. I will accept that as justice and hope that this brings some comfort to the families of her victims.
Agree she should suffer but that should be at the execution. Tax payers money would be much better spent helping those in need. I can't imagine how much it will cost to keep her locked up until she dies!
@@lincslegend6936 Look up the cost of the death penalty in the US...
@@lincslegend6936 it costs more to execute someone than keep them in prison their whole lives, if money is what matters to you.
@@gorgieboy10 how do you calculate that?
@@gorgieboy10your channel has 1 subscriber . Your opinion will be ignored.
All those hospital trust management and other personnel who refused to deal with concerns raised about lucy letby are complicit in the deaths and injuries of those babies. They should also face trial, and banned from working in any care situation again.
Aside from the murders she also damaged the profession of Nurse maybe beyond repair for a lot of time. It will take a long time until parentd will trust nurses again...if ever.
Very true and sad. I've given birth twice via c section meaning I can't walk in the first 2 days and in hospital for 4. It makes me think that I should've had someone with me the entire time. What if when I was sleep or when I left my baby with a nurse...that she was a psychopath? I'm so traumatised by this case that when my sister has hers, I'm not leaving her side.
Not long after open heart surgery with nothing but the utmost admiration and respect for the those who sorted and cared for me. My heart goes out to the parents of their precious children who suffered at the hands of this killer.
Can't understand anyone who hurts babies, especially ones who are sick. So glad I have normal maternal instincts. I really feel for all the families and cry to think these babies suffered before this monster killed them. Hope her life in prison is miserable and terrifying. Still think she shouldn't be isolated from other prisoners - why should she be protected when no one at the hospital protected these tiny babies. Doctors tried, but the hospital blocked them - administrators involved need jail time and immediate sacking
This is not quite true that she hid it, people where raising alarms but where being quashed.
You have to ask yourself why they were being quashed then.
The people raising the alarm were forced to apologize to this witch!
Impeccable delivery from the judge, so calm and composed in his speech.
The judge's sentencing statement is both profound and heart wrenching. How could she be so callous and evil to inflict not only harm, but also major physical pain to those innocent babies?
It’s strange that we may never know the true reason why she did this, I really want to know her twisted reasons as to why. Can’t imagine how the families must feel.
The sooner legislation can be passed to force these people into the dock for sentencing the better. She’s already been found guilty. She’s going to be forced into a cell for the rest of her life, why can’t they force her to the dock for sentencing?
Perhaps it is the attitude of this generation towards legalized abortion snd this is just an
outward manifestation spilling over from that ideology? I had someone threaten my unborn baby with a curse
and when she was stillborn this person laughed and sneered at me saying she had more power than God. It was 3 years into the legalization of abortion in the US. There is blood on al lot of people's hands.
We know the reason, most of you just can’t accept it.
@@Tamarlane389 and that is ... ?
What reason is that?? @@Tamarlane389
Demon possessed
So devastated for our people lost dead or hurt by this heartbreaking situation....
Our whole country mourns
Can I just express my disgust to You Tube as well. I appreciate you need revenue from advertising, but with something as sensitive and as profound as this, you could have waived them here, but no. Half way through Mr Justice Goss's summing up, a stupid advert pops up. Totally inappropriate. I am very disappointed. Show some respect.
I think we place far too much trust in these people. Care for your children, especially when they're in hospital.
sending love to familys who babys have also been left disabled and my heart goes out to you.❤
R.I.P. The Babies x
What an Evil person...
There's no words of comfort for those poor people who have had their babies taken from them😢
How many tears have you cried so far in regards Lucy Letby s murders (oh well not enough)
Goody two shoes Lucy Letby🙂
Lucia de Beer.
I think that prisoners who refuse to be present in the Court room for their sentencing and to hear the Personal Impact Statements of the people whose lives they have shattered, should have to watch and listen to it in their cell, via video link. I absolutely DO NOT believe that using physical force is the answer.
Great idea
i'd have no reservations to using force to make sure they comply.
Agreed, I hope they change this based on this case. Of course they could forcibly drag the accused to court but the ones like that are likely to need dragging are also likely to be a disturbance/danger physically/verbally in court to others which causes further distress to families and eventual removal anyway.
I do hate that it looks like they're getting the option to skip school as it were... so having a live video feed into a guarded cell where the prisoner is supervised so they can't do anything to the TV to stop listening seems like the best solution. They can't avoid serving the ACTUAL sentence anyway, whether they heard it or not... and the less time the victim's families spend in this person's presence the better, imo. She's frustratingly inscrutable.
Its not finished yet judge!!!!
What kind of a court system is this that allows the accused not to have to show up for their sentencing??? So irresponsible! The judge here was so awesome in his delivery!
Psychopath.
The legal system should be on the lookout for narcissists and psychopaths. They're the menace of society.
This has been touched on before, but so many lives have been affected by the ripple effect of the murders, and I firmly believe that the death penalty should be reinstated. The babies had no choice in the matter. We do, and to keep that creature alive for the rest of her life at around £40,000 a year is a reminder that the law is lacking in this day and age.
So you want the state to come down to her level?
Level? @@joekavanagh7171
Bet she has remorse, alright. About being in the wrong job, at the wrong place, at the wrong time!
How did she avoid hearing her sentence???
It’s the law, she does have rights..
@@arbjful law is changing.
In the U.S., she’s be forced to be present and I think that is reasonable. She has rights, but she has far less rights now than she had before her conviction, as it should be. She is now a ward of the state, and they have every right to tell her where to be, within reason. This was reasonable, to force her to be at sentencing and hear victim impact statements.
maybe the reason she has no remorse is because she didn't do it
Must be very hard to say this without losing it.
13 babies is the tip of the iceberg. I fear there are plenty more innocent victims.
Oh my god, I came out prematurely and had a series of complications when I was born, I almost died of phenomena when I was a week old, and I spent the first two months of my life in an incubator.
How can anyone harm babies! 😢 This is so horrible.
I will never understand humanity & its propensity to commit such evil cruel heinous acts of violence towards its fellow man, she should be kept in total isolation for the rest of her days.
Well said. How is it possible that some people think shes not guilty?😢
Because she isn't.
Because some people look research the WHOLE story of events, not just those chucked out by the corrupt NHS.
Some people ?? Do you mean the police , Lawyers , Jury and Judge ?? @@peaceout1453
Because the world is full of idiots and conspiracy, theorists, and even in cases where there's irrefutable evidence, there's always someone who pops up and imagines the person is innocent. Those people are to be ignored.
It's hard to ignore stupid people though sometimes 😢@@lisabelle7553
that judge is right
If there ever was a person in need of acid attack in prison. ☣️
Let’s be honest, she won’t last in jail.
She will be high category and will now become a lab rat to many physicians and therapists around the world that want to know more about this condition, she will be looked after just like Hannibal was
Hopefully one of the screws will turn a blind eye whilst the inmates sort her out 🙏
@@Michellemutts7848 She won't get anywhere near the general prison population, she'll be held under Rule 43, and segregated.
@@sarkybugger5009 typical!! Protect them when they should be left to the wolves
@@Michellemutts7848 I agree with you. However, we are supposed to be civilised people, so rotting in clink for the rest of her miserable life will have to suffice.
It will be no picnic for her, that's for sure, and she has 40 or 50 years to think about it.
This is absolutely heartbreaking and awful. My heart goes to these innocent families and teams. It’s appalling that even a doctor and colleagues were continually muted. Thank God and human caring for stopping that thing
Although in general I do not like the death penalty, I firmly believe there is a line, if crossed, the death penalty is the only justice. She went way over that line.
How is it that she could choose to not show up for this?! What a slap in the face for the victim's parents! Her crimes were so horrific that she should have been made to face the entire courtroom, standing up in shame! It's disgusting that she could choose.
Got the result fitting the crime. Won’t bring those kids back though. Awful. Thoughts are with the parents. 😢
Classy well spoken judge, the traditional wigs and gowns, i had to attend a trial in England many years ago and the judge and barristers wore exact same things then
She , and others like her , should be there and made to be there
Ive been mentally ill but I never felt like harming somebody else only myself
Thanks 🙏
What a difference a year makes!
I wish all the parents, victims, and relations all the very best. All the love in the world to each of you ❤ I am so sorry that this evil person crossed your paths, I hope that you can all find peace when the time is right for you. It's not much, but it's the best I can say. We're all thinking of you. Do take care ❤️
Agree to everything you've said here.
Well said
Considering that she took the time to follow the grieving parents of her victims online and even send of them a card on the funeral day, I think her sadistic tendencies would have made being forced to hear the families in court, something she might have enjoyed. In turn that would have been even more violent for the families.
Also I wonder what she did before 2015, as I read that other families suspect her of having tried to kill their babies before that period of time.
Bless those little Angels hearts.. what a truly vile monster that thing is
THE JUDGE GAVE HER WHAT SHE DISSERVE MY CONDOLENCES TO ALL THE FAMILIES LOOSING THERE BABY'S 😢😢😢😢
*deserved, *losing, *their, *babies.
@@adoculos4521 You’re a 🤡.
That's what people probably said about Lucia de Beer. Like Lucy accused of killing 7 babies. She was later proved innocent. This trial was based on circumstances, NOT facts.
This crime is beyond words. There will be more to come though. Hindsight is a great thing but she was reported several times and nothing was done.
Doctors reported her after the first 3
Management told them to shut up
Management is guilty of manslaughter.
Doctors should run hospitals not managers
"I don't feel like attending the sentencing" - Lucy
"No problem, we'll start without you." - Judge
"I also don't feel like attending prison." - Lucy
"No problem, we'll start without you." - Judge
I hope these parents are able to to sue that hospital for lots of money.
Absolutely horrific what she did. Hope she has a difficult time in prison.
@@krazyworld16oh I think she will. Prisoners hate baby and child abusers and killers.
Yeah, bung them a few quid and it won't feel as bad. 🙄
@@river8760Yup.. If there's any justice, she will be left alone and unguarded 3 times a year for the next 20 years. Always healing from a tough beating.
I think now they should change the law so that there must be at least 2 nurses in a room with a sick baby so that this can't possibly happen again!
Unfathomable crime
Baby killers are regarded as the worst of the worst. If the prisoners in general population have an opportunity she will be dealt with
She’s definitely a danger to society and I think the sentence correctly reflects that. At the same time I can’t help but to wonder what made her become cold blooded a child killer. People are much more likely to be made this way than born this way.
Some people are just wired wrong! Broken! No good runts! Her parents must have noticed something was off! But they look dowdy and as stiff and boring as their unremarkable devil child! She probably noticed lots in life that she didn’t have! Her life and appearances all seem boring boring boring! All that subconscious longing to taste more than vanilla and look more than beige manifested into a monster! Those babies where remarkable by the very nature of their birth, premature, ivf, twins, triplets! From day one, Letby resented that. Birth to 25 years she’d been nothing special ever!! and those babies had the audacity to stand out as special the minute they were born! She’s as mad as a bastard! Hope she rots in hell, oh and I hope they spit in her food in jail.
RIP to those darling babies! And all the very best to the sweethearts that survived 🙏🏽
Are psychopaths made?
@@angelavolkov1126 Well, as far as I know there's quite a bit of evidence that it in certain cases can be based on both genetics coupled with specific childhood trauma (like mental or physical abuse) that "triggers" the genes in question (and it's apparently hundreds of them). In other words, no one's born a psychopath but might be born with a greater propensity to become one.
I seem to remember reading somewhere that if a person with this propensity is left untraumatized would actually give the them the opposite traits, in other words extremely empathetic as supposed left with no empathy at all but I don't know how much truth there is to that.
The prisoners hate kid killers
''Feed her to the pigs Errol.''
she and all others who commit these horrific crimes need to hear their sentences. change the law immediately!
I would just like to say a very big thank you to the judge for sentencing this evil individual to LIFE IN PRISON. NICE ONE.
I thank god my grandaughter was not born at that hospital, my heart goes out to the parents of these precious vulnerable babies ❤
she should have no rights and should have been present and made to face the families she destroyed
This is unbearably awful. I am so sorry for all the families and all others who were affected by these unspeakable and deeply depressing events.
Maybe don't have ads in a vid that is so deeply upsetting. Making money off such horrors doesn't seem right. I hope you donate every penny to a worthy cause!!!
Will UA-cam also be donating money? I think they're responsible for placing ads, not the persons running the channel.
It strikes me that a person guilty of murder can avoid hearing the sentence reading but the Home and Justice Secs focus on people protesting with blank paper.
Poor little angels Rip feel sorry for all the mothers and fathers
It’s just another kick in the teeth to the family’s that she had the audacity & the right not to show up to court. Everyone on trial should be FORCED to attend court especially when being sentenced regardless whether they want to or not. Disgusting 😡
It’s gonna be a long long time in a cell for her. I hope every day drags
He killed her fairly for killing babies