Psychopaths have NO REMORSE what they do to their victims. I feel so sorry for this girl when she found out who he really was. What a waste of 2 years in her precious life.
It is absolutely awful for her, but imagine- she could have ended up wasting 20 years of her life on him and then gotten killed by him once he wanted a younger woman…😨
No doubt this trauma will likely affect her for a very long time, if not for life. I imagine trust being a huge issue for her in any potential future relationships. My heart breaks for her, it truly does. By the sounds of it she was very close with Bart & Krista so she's mourning their loss along with grieving the relationship she thought she had with Chandler. So while she did (possibly quite literally) dodge a bullet, it may take years for her to actually realize that & to see the good in this situation. I truly hope she gets there one day though. I wish her all the help, healing, love & happiness she deserves moving forward with the rest of her life.💖
those of you asking how Cat could have not known… i’m assuming you have never interacted with a sociopath, at least not that you’ve known about. you’d be amazed at how convincing, charming, and manipulative they can be. i sincerely hope that poor girl gets the help she needs to move on with her life in a healthy way and doesn’t blame herself 💜
Exactly! My ex husband was a psychopath and my whole family & I believed everything he said, because he seemed so genuine, but he was in fact very manipulative and lied about everything.
Well stated!! She was only 21 and young, naive and in love…probably her first serious relationship also!! I’m 41 and had been in many relationships, before I met my sons father and last ex that was a narcissistic abuser. I had never met anyone like that before and was honestly uneducated/naive to many things! For 10 years, I was in a relationship with him and thank god that I’m aware of at least…he wasn’t a murderer and as awful as this guy…but I never thought I would put up, be “duped” or stay with someone that was like him! It’s like you said…how convincing, charming and manipulative these people can be and if you are in love…and don’t remotely have the mindset of these people…it’s easy for someone to ignore possible red flags, etc. I know I will never again be in this situation for many reasons and I’m sure she won’t either after especially all of this!! My heart breaks for this girl and I feel exactly like you stated!! I was also one of those people that would have that way of thinking…not understanding how these people didn’t know or see what was going on…but after my relationship…my mindset has completely changed!
Me neither, I've never heard a witness asking for a break. When Cathryn's mother asked for a break, I was like "Huh? You can do that?". But yeah, this judge is so so sweet and totally awesome. Wishes each and every witness a good rest of their day. I get hurt on his behalf when they don't day it back, but I would imagine the witness (especially newbies to a court) just wanna get outta there and probably haven't registered what he said. Have you seen his earring? 😎
Krista and Bart seemed like such kind people. This guy didn't even think to realize how good he had it. A lot of us had abusive parents and wish we could've had parents like them. I feel so horrible for Cat as well. And everyone that their death has impacted.
I can’t believe the trauma Cat has gone through and going through. The shock of him murdering his parents and THEN going on the stand. I’m truly hoping she’s doing okay
Because she had a beautiful, trusting heart. After seeing mum and mums gf/fiance it's not surprising. I hope she knows it was awful, terrible bad luck that she met Chandler and isn't disillusioned for life like an older person might be 😢 . I wish her, her mum and Cres all the love possible.
So Chandler is not only a murderer but just an all around lying pos as well. I feel terrible for this young lady & I hope she finds true love & happiness in her life as soon as she’s ready.
We heard people lied, but this parents murderers LIED his whole being. The schooling The job #1 The job#2 The future Space X job The parents going vacationing! And the final TRUTH! His father going to confront the school,the dark lies going to be expose,no more room for lie, No school, no job, No future job!
Cat is such a beautiful & bright young woman, and my heart breaks for her. I can't imagine spending two years with someone, falling in love and planning a future with that person, then to find out that person is a psychopath. I truly pray this sweet young woman can move past this and find love again, because it can't be easy to trust anyone after this horrific crime that has impacted her life and many others. 💔😔
God, poor Cat :( I cannot even imagine. I dated someone who lied about being in college once. My dad hated him from the second they met and one day had enough and called the university he said he went to. They had never heard of him, he called me and I felt like the floor fell out from under my feet. I wish I had left him then, but I didn't and it was a terrible relationship, his lying persisted. Don't ever stay with someone who lies like that. He didn't kill and dismember his family, of course, so I cannot imagine having the upset of realizing you've been lied to AND he's a psychopath that can saw his parents into pieces. Horrifying. Also, her hair is so beautiful. I love the gray streaks!
I went through a period where I lied about who I was to a lot of people. I hurt many people. I’m so thankful God taught me a valuable lesson and gave me the courage to tell them all the truth. Now I am very careful not to lie. Its a terrible feeling and the truth will always set you free!!
KillerKat as she goes by online was no Victim, she knew all about his lies from the beginning his many ex-girlfriends will attest to that. This fact alone debunks the narrative that were been fed of this naive gullible girl duped by this psyco. Rubbish, she actually enabled him. Let's see what her full unedited police interview has to say, I suggest it speaks volumes of her complicity in this heinous crime. To put an end to all the speculation Innuendo and implication that will surely follow.I would like to think it would be in her best interests. She's Innocent Right, well that's what we are being led to believe Anyone care that the Cat the ex girlfriend is an actress and participates in acting slasher like films?
I think perhaps my favorite part of this entire trial is when the prosecution asks Dr. Lohmeier, "At any point in time did you..." and then she reads off all the absurd things Chandler had been reporting that his TERRIBLE concussion had done to him causing long-term debilitating and incapacitating problems for him and one by one the doctor answers back, "No mam" to every single one of them. I particularly enjoyed it because Chandler had to sit there and listen as lie after lie after lie that he had been telling people about how he couldn't walk and couldn't drive and couldn't fly and would need to have a hole drilled in his head and (my personal favorite) would need a colostomy bag, etc. etc. etc. was exposed. I wonder if he has enough decency that he was even embarrassed by that testimony. However, he seemed to care about Cat and it must have stung, when asked how she knew Chandler, to hear her say, "We WERE in a relationship." You pretty much destroyed your relationship with every person in your life, didn't you, Chaz? I would predict that you can look forward to some excruciatingly long, lonely years in the coming decades because if I counted correctly, the only person I believe who will want to have anything at all to do with you in the future is your Granny.
I agree he didn't want to b in court so he has to sit and watch its mind boggling how his ego and pride that he killed for are gone in a flash he feels fudge!!!! No way!!!! His mind was lieing to him making him think he's gonna get away with it living a lie
His mind led him to believe no way are they ever gonna know his mind believed it all his ego pride of false thinking was instantly gone to his mind not believing how they fudging found out!!!! The devil got him
I’m not so sure. This trial was in Jan 2022. And at least up until Nov 2021, (2 months before trial) Cat was talking to him daily, constant I love you’s, making plans for their life together after he was acquitted, paying for all of his commissary, p/c’s, stamps etc. She was avoiding all news, refused to read about the investigation etc. Maybe in those 2 months something changed? But that’s some pretty strong denial…
@@maryb6672 What's even more odd/interesting is that the cops duped her phone July 8. They interviewed her again on the 16th, and she pointed out the Snapchat screenshot she took of Chandler in the woods when he claimed to be home doing chores. The cops had the screenshot but missed it's significance. She explained what it meant...and that's how police linked Chandler with the remains of Krista found there two days earlier. He might not have been charged with his mother's death if she didn't step up.
I feel so bad for his ex girlfriend it's like reliving all the lies of a beautiful life u planned with ur boyfriend thrown in ur face all over again and to find out the kind of monster he really is
i hope she never saw what her hubby did to the poor parents she had a good relationship with, she would have really tossed her cookies, its twats like this monster that make it worse for us honest ppl and i wouldn't blame her if she only dated women fro now on.I hope he gets something tossed when he gets to prison the POS
His ex girlfriend is so embarrassed. Many times she looks directly at the camera, turns her head when drinking water, etc. She was totally catfished by this pos. All this testimony is reminding her of just how duped she really was. I truly feel bad for her.
Cat must be so traumatized by all of this. She truly cared for the Haldersons, and you can see how painful their loss was for her. You can also see how painful it was for her to discover that the man she was with for years had completely fabricated his entire life and the future she looked forward to was never going to happen. Now she has to explain and expose it all; not just in front of members of her community, but world wide as this trial is broadcast online. As we all know, what’s posted on the internet, lives forever. Poor baby
My heart breaks for her. I think most of us have been in a relationship where we found out someone wasn’t who we believed they were but this is on another level. I hope she gets some help to process what she had actually been through.
So glad she has some comfort that she did not hold back with any information that she had. She literally gave up the ghost and led the parents of the monster being to justice - if justice could be found in this occasion.
Sending Cathryn, her family and the loved ones of the deceased my prayer’s that strength, peace and tranquillity comes into their lives expeditiously. Cathryn the best revenge against for what Chandler did to you will be to live your life to the fullest, continue on with your education to earn your career, you will find the right partner in life when the time is right...don’t give Chandler any power to damper your shining light.
People implying or stating outright that she was involved with this are sickening. She was cleared by a hyper-vigilant police investigation which she was 100% cooperative with. Some people just always want to blame the women for some reason.
1st of all I agree, she’s probably not involved. 2nd, police are capable of lying. 3rd, someone is totally capable with complying with police and not getting caught/implicated. I really hope it’s the 1st one but I don’t know.
Yeah a real POS this guy and unfortunately there is one word which comes to my mind if I look at the ex-girlfriend and that is NAIVE. Poor girl was played badly and had no clue what a psychopath her boyfriend is!
Her paying isn’t the problem. It’s the fact that she paid all the time and then he kept borrowing money from her knowing he’d never actually pay her back. He took advantage of her
As difficult as this line of questioning has been for Cathryn she will such a stronger woman for it. She is young and she got out of this horrendous situation with her whole life ahead of her. Most women her age unfortunately will be much older before they experience how treacherous relationships can be. I hope she focuses of her career and finds the person who will treat her well.
KillerKat as she goes by online was no Victim, she knew all about his lies from the beginning his many ex-girlfriends will attest to that. This fact alone debunks the narrative that were been fed of this naive gullible girl duped by this psyco. Rubbish, she actually enabled him. Let's see what her full unedited police interview has to say, I suggest it speaks volumes of her complicity in this heinous crime. To put an end to all the speculation Innuendo and implication that will surely follow.I would like to think it would be in her best interests. She's Innocent Right, well that's what we are being led to believe Anyone care that the Cat the ex girlfriend is an actress and participates in acting slasher like films?
If he had headaches due to a suspected minor concussion and had to rest his eyes, why on earth would he spend hours and hours in front of a lit, busy screen playing video games?
@@pipr5070 -- If the defense is going to make the jury believe their client (guilty as sin in my books) was too physically debilitated to murder his father, dismember him and then lug his remains where he dispose of them, they really have another thing coming.
@@melstiller8561 I’m leaning more towards, well he did it but this “head injury” (fake) was the reason he did it. His “injury” was so bad that it made him lose his mind and chop up his parents. 🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@MrsMrMoney -- We all know the defense's job is to throw wrenches in the wheels of truth and facts -- anything to try and convince a jury that their client was "temporarily mentally ill in view of his injuries" (as you've suggested). It reminds me of Miss Geraldine (played on television by comedian Flip Wilson) who used to blame her/his bad behavior on the devil. "The devil made me do it," Miss Geraldine would say. Yup, nowadays no one is responsible for their actions, because the "evil one" or "temporary insanity" (or both) makes them do the unthinkable.😏
I work in healthcare, and if he was having problems with his legs, vision, headaches, altered state of mind, they would have revoked his drivers license as he would be a huge risk to the public and himself. There's no way he would be driving with a brain bleed. In some cases, the don't even let you drive with a neck brace as your range of head movement is limited.
If Chandler spent a fraction of his time and energy into being a regular person (i.e. going to school, getting a job/working, volunteering etc) as he did pretending he was a regular person and covering up that he wasn't, then he'd probably be pretty successful.
That's exactly what I kept thinking. When Cat's mother testified about Chandler being a great cook when making salmon, I was like "hello, career path, chef, no schooling needed, makes money, has potential for a life long endeavour!".... if he'd bothered to put any effort in actually being an adult. It's horrific how far he could have gone in life if he'd just TRIED.
Helloooooo Dr. Lohmeir... It's really awesome to be able to watch such a skillful prosecution team weave their narrative using witnesses at such strategic times. This trial has been so fascinating, even knowing that Chandler is obviously guilty, the prosecutorial team is incredible.
Apart from heart going out for Bart, Krista, and Mitchell, I feel the most bad for Kat. This poor, poor girl. The thought that she was hugging and kissing the vermin on the night his parents were chopped up and dismembered.
So in layman's terms, He fell down and bumped his wittle head. Then played it up for sympathy and attention 🙄. You just know he googled those symptoms 😂
Plus used it to try and get out of the lies he told about Space X. Since he had no degree, no money and no job at Space X he painted himself into a corner.
Chandler is so manipulative in his messages to his ex girlfriend. And she is a young woman who cannot see what Chandler is like at all because she herself is the complete opposite. So sad that she has to learn this way that there are a lot of idiots on this globe.
KillerKat as she goes by online was no Victim, she knew all about his lies from the beginning his many ex-girlfriends will attest to that. This fact alone debunks the narrative that were been fed of this naive gullible girl duped by this psyco. Rubbish, she actually enabled him. Let's see what her full unedited police interview has to say, I suggest it speaks volumes of her complicity in this heinous crime. To put an end to all the speculation Innuendo and implication that will surely follow.I would like to think it would be in her best interests. She's Innocent Right, well that's what we are being led to believe Anyone care that the Cat the ex girlfriend is an actress and participates in acting slasher like films?
Get a grip you mug. KillerKat as she goes by online was no Victim, she knew all about his lies from the beginning his many ex-girlfriends will attest to that. This fact alone debunks the narrative that were been fed of this naive gullible girl duped by this psyco. Rubbish, she actually enabled him. Let's see what her full unedited police interview has to say, I suggest it speaks volumes of her complicity in this heinous crime. To put an end to all the speculation Innuendo and implication that will surely follow.I would like to think it would be in her best interests. She's Innocent Right, well that's what we are being led to believe Anyone care that the Cat the ex girlfriend is an actress and participates in acting slasher like films?
You know I'm taking Great Pleasure in watching the Prosecution putting one nail after another into leaving Chandler naked before the world! He duped his parents and his girlfriend and thought he was a criminal mastermind. He literally left clues to everything he did. Before he killed his parents and Definitely after. Everyone around him was in danger.
I feel so sorry for Cat too. I had an ex steal over €10,000 from me and went out of his way to destroy my life when I tried to get it back. It nearly put me off all people for life and I lost complete faith in people and she’s there with a boyfriend who butchered his own parents and burned their heads in their fireplace. She will be traumatised for life and he tried to pin it on her mum too.
This psychopath cared only for his video games. Wow. I'm sure that is what he was doing while he was "on call" and couldn't hang out with this poor young lady. She is going to tear herself up so badly for doing what she should do...trusting and believing the person you love. I feel so bad for her and she takes care of herself. He is a true monster.
Wow, wouldn't it be easier to just go to school or get a job? He worked harder at avoiding jobs & school than he ever would have put into actually working or studying.
It was just a single button press to pick up or drop a dead or unconscious body in his favorite video game. Unfortunately for him, this was his only source of research and planning…
Man, ive watched hours of footage on this case but it really hit me when Cat got emotional up there 😢 I guess i never realized she admired his parents so much, poor girl
My heart goes out to the family & everyone else who loved, trusted, and believed him. How do you recover after something this devastating? Praying for strength & peace for all involved... except for Chandler of course. I hope guilt tears him apart... unlikely considering all he's done but still hoping.
handler killed his parents because his Dad caught him in a lie and Chandler could not face him. When Cat found out he lied about everything would he have killed her too? I think so. That is now he coped with life, He would not have let her go.
KillerKat as she goes by online was no Victim, she knew all about his lies from the beginning his many ex-girlfriends will attest to that. This fact alone debunks the narrative that were been fed of this naive gullible girl duped by this psyco. Rubbish, she actually enabled him. Let's see what her full unedited police interview has to say, I suggest it speaks volumes of her complicity in this heinous crime. To put an end to all the speculation Innuendo and implication that will surely follow.I would like to think it would be in her best interests. She's Innocent Right, well that's what we are being led to believe Anyone care that the Cat the ex girlfriend is an actress and participates in acting slasher like films?
@Erin B i feel bad for the way your brain takes in information. You seem very disillusioned and ignorant that its completely asisine and irrelevant to all the evidence in this case. But go on now..
The excitement she felt, an amazing future for her potential husband with SpaceX, and he WANTS her to be with him; only to fall into this sick nightmare of murder & lies. She's so young, was hopeful. Everyone believed him, (until his father started digging) so it's very natural she would believe the best as well. What a shattering slam right in the face. I cannot imagine finding out someone you love and trust not only lied so MUCH, but then dismembered his parents and dumped his fathers torso onto your families land. Wrapping your mind around that is unfathomable. Edit; And how tf do you ground a 23 year old? How embarrassing to either admit that, or lie about that to cover for your nefarious plans. So gross and nauseating. I hope she is able to find a decent, normal person to love and be loved by, and can learn to trust again.
KillerKat as she goes by online was no Victim, she knew all about his lies from the beginning his many ex-girlfriends will attest to that. This fact alone debunks the narrative that were been fed of this naive gullible girl duped by this psyco. Rubbish, she actually enabled him. Let's see what her full unedited police interview has to say, I suggest it speaks volumes of her complicity in this heinous crime. To put an end to all the speculation Innuendo and implication that will surely follow.I would like to think it would be in her best interests. She's Innocent Right, well that's what we are being led to believe Anyone care that the Cat the ex girlfriend is an actress and participates in acting slasher like films?
Chandlers friend in the army had a head trauma. He was discharged from the army. Chandler took that head trauma from his friend. I pray this guy never gives another weapon he meets over the internet
Kat is so horrified about what chandler has done she's had a very lucky escape, I hope she can move on with her life & put this horrendous chapter behind her & forget this evil monster.
KillerKat as she goes by online was no Victim, she knew all about his lies from the beginning his many ex-girlfriends will attest to that. This fact alone debunks the narrative that were been fed of this naive gullible girl duped by this psyco. Rubbish, she actually enabled him. Let's see what her full unedited police interview has to say, I suggest it speaks volumes of her complicity in this heinous crime. To put an end to all the speculation Innuendo and implication that will surely follow.I would like to think it would be in her best interests. She's Innocent Right, well that's what we are being led to believe Anyone care that the Cat the ex girlfriend is an actress and participates in acting slasher like films?
His ex girlfriend’s testimony was heartbreaking. I hope never to know what that feels like, but fwiw Ms mellender you have a great, long life ahead of you. You’ll get over this and thrive.
KillerKat as she goes by online was no Victim, she knew all about his lies from the beginning his many ex-girlfriends will attest to that. This fact alone debunks the narrative that were been fed of this naive gullible girl duped by this psyco. Rubbish, she actually enabled him. Let's see what her full unedited police interview has to say, I suggest it speaks volumes of her complicity in this heinous crime. To put an end to all the speculation Innuendo and implication that will surely follow.I would like to think it would be in her best interests. She's Innocent Right, well that's what we are being led to believe Anyone care that the Cat the ex girlfriend is an actress and participates in acting slasher like films?
Catheryn, Chandler's ex-girlfriend, has suffered so much from this entire situation. My heart goes out to her. Many of of us have been duped by an unscrupulous person at such a young age. Hopefully she will go on and repair her life. It will difficult trusting any man for quite a while or maybe never. I hope this young beautiful woman concentrates on her life, education and career, family and goes to counseling. She will have to work through all those questions about why this happened. Narcissists are liars that have no empathy for anyone. They prey upon people who have something in their lives that they want. Chandler was looking for someone to take care of him. He knew the jig was up with his parents, so he killed them. If he had been honest with his family, and told them he was unable to work or finish college, they would have found him help. Reminds me of the Menendez brothers. Sons who want to be rich off of their parents' hard work, scrimping and saving, to offer their children a better life. Chandler reminds me of a tornado. He spun through so many lives tearing up everything in his path. If you have been following this, was he considering killing his neighbors? He went to their homes to inquire about surveillance cameras on their property. Luckily they turned the footage as evidence into the Police Dept. He killed before to keep his secret. Bizarre case!
Joel guy Jr vibes, minus the notebook with his entire plan. Wonder what makes these psychos think they will get away with this sort of thing... They're so narcissistic that they believe they will pull the wool over literally everyone's eyes. Amazing.
It’s scares me to think that my abusive ex, before he become physically abusive, used to make up or exaggerate sceneries or issues to get my sympathy & support. Often times, he would ask me if I would still love him if blah blah blah would happen. Or he would say something negative about himself to get me to compliment or reassure him. All narcissists do the exact same things. It’s like there’s some manual they learn from and repeat.
I think it might also be shame, i.e. victim-blaming from herself in a way. There are probably a million thoughts she's had like "if I had looked in that fireplace I'd probably have seen a piece of bone" or "how did I not see how many bloodstains there were?", all in addition to the obvious horror of knowing you slept and lived in a house just feet away from the skull incinerator, and maybe tens of feet away at most from a freezer full of dismembered corpses
After seeing how out of his league she is (in every way), Chandler’s main motives become very clear. Also, I am sure they already told her of all his lies - or most of them - but it almost seems like she is finding out the depth of his lies while she is on the stand!
KillerKat as she goes by online was no Victim, she knew all about his lies from the beginning his many ex-girlfriends will attest to that. This fact alone debunks the narrative that were been fed of this naive gullible girl duped by this psyco. Rubbish, she actually enabled him. Let's see what her full unedited police interview has to say, I suggest it speaks volumes of her complicity in this heinous crime. To put an end to all the speculation Innuendo and implication that will surely follow.I would like to think it would be in her best interests. She's Innocent Right, well that's what we are being led to believe Anyone care that the Cat the ex girlfriend is an actress and participates in acting slasher like films?
@@charliechurch5004 By that logic, his parents and other relatives/friends should have seen the signs too. But nobody did because people like him are good at hiding it.
The interrogation was really something. They already figured it was him. He gave a detailed hour by hour full detail story about his injuries and his parents going to the cabin and then went missing. You have to see it.
KillerKat as she goes by online was no Victim, she knew all about his lies from the beginning his many ex-girlfriends will attest to that. This fact alone debunks the narrative that were been fed of this naive gullible girl duped by this psyco. Rubbish, she actually enabled him. Let's see what her full unedited police interview has to say, I suggest it speaks volumes of her complicity in this heinous crime. To put an end to all the speculation Innuendo and implication that will surely follow.I would like to think it would be in her best interests. She's Innocent Right, well that's what we are being led to believe Anyone care that the Cat the ex girlfriend is an actress and participates in acting slasher like films?
@@June-tb4vi Correct she's already spoken to him. KillerKat as she goes by online was no Victim, she knew all about his lies from the beginning his many ex-girlfriends will attest to that. This fact alone debunks the narrative that were been fed of this naive gullible girl duped by this psyco. Rubbish, she actually enabled him. Let's see what her full unedited police interview has to say, I suggest it speaks volumes of her complicity in this heinous crime. To put an end to all the speculation Innuendo and implication that will surely follow.I would like to think it would be in her best interests. She's Innocent Right, well that's what we are being led to believe Anyone care that the Cat the ex girlfriend is an actress and participates in acting slasher like films?
@June miserable much ya seem. You seem very disillusioned to this entire case had you paid attention to all the evidence given and its completely asinine to suggest that. But go on your doing just great now
His lies were so embarrassingly transparent, it's like something we'd expect from a toddler. Evidently, the problem here is that nobody in his world was willing to challenge him when his career of lying began.
KillerKat as she goes by online was no Victim, she knew all about his lies from the beginning his many ex-girlfriends will attest to that. This fact alone debunks the narrative that were been fed of this naive gullible girl duped by this psyco. Rubbish, she actually enabled him. Let's see what her full unedited police interview has to say, I suggest it speaks volumes of her complicity in this heinous crime. To put an end to all the speculation Innuendo and implication that will surely follow.I would like to think it would be in her best interests. She's Innocent Right, well that's what we are being led to believe Anyone care that the Cat the ex girlfriend is an actress and participates in acting slasher like films?
Anyone that dives regularly or is in upper training courses has dive gear all over. How do you these people believe this kid is a trained rescue diver and no certification or log books anywhere.
He meant to correlate the colostomy bag down the road due to "the hit to the spine". Typically, the hit to the spine sometimes would require a colostomy bag due to near complete paralysis from the spine down. Generally, these people don't walk on two feet, not even with a cane. Basically he probably read about Christopher Reeve's injury and decided to go with that route.
WHY, when he had a whole empty country at his disposal would he brings his father's torso to the gf's mother's gf's property? I mean, it's just doesnt make any sense, if his goal was not to get caught.
I agree! He’s either the dumbest criminal on this planet or he did everything possible to purposely get caught. I don’t think he had any remorse and therefore wanted to get caught so my belief is he’s just the dumbest criminal on the planet. I’m going with that.
She was not duped you mug. KillerKat as she goes by online was no Victim, she knew all about his lies from the beginning his many ex-girlfriends will attest to that. This fact alone debunks the narrative that were been fed of this naive gullible girl duped by this psyco. Rubbish, she actually enabled him. Let's see what her full unedited police interview has to say, I suggest it speaks volumes of her complicity in this heinous crime. To put an end to all the speculation Innuendo and implication that will surely follow.I would like to think it would be in her best interests. She's Innocent Right, well that's what we are being led to believe Anyone care that the Cat the ex girlfriend is an actress and participates in acting slasher like films?
She's so beautiful, I don't even understand how in the heck she was with this bum. Not only is he not physically attractive, he's one of the worst human beings that I've ever seen... this couldn't have started the day he decided to murder his parents.
She would DEFINITELY have been next if she had moved down to Florida or otherwise remained with him. She would have figured out his BS and he would have disposed of her.
@@dianayount2122 I think he would have ultimately killed her if for example, his parents kicked him out of their house, he went to live with her, and then she kicked him out.
@@dianayount2122 No doubt it damaged her reputation, too. Just look at how people in the comment sections of these videos talk about her. I’d never use social media again
KillerKat as she goes by online was no Victim, she knew all about his lies from the beginning his many ex-girlfriends will attest to that. This fact alone debunks the narrative that were been fed of this naive gullible girl duped by this psyco. Rubbish, she actually enabled him. Let's see what her full unedited police interview has to say, I suggest it speaks volumes of her complicity in this heinous crime. To put an end to all the speculation Innuendo and implication that will surely follow.I would like to think it would be in her best interests. She's Innocent Right, well that's what we are being led to believe Anyone care that the Cat the ex girlfriend is an actress and participates in acting slasher like films?
She reminds me of my younger sister, very naïve. very young. First serious relationship. Blinded - jail called and messaged with him up to just 2 months ahead of the trial. Anyway, that being said, I understand her wanting to conceal herself but lying to the court about why isn't the best course of action. The pros tried to save her with "you work in healthcare right?" That's a reaaach... she's a pharmacy tech.
I work for Space X and this case and especially Chandler is a meme in the office, we have his picture in a side room where we play darts and throw them at his picture.
If you work for Space X why would you comment on another video that you purchased Ruby France’s home in Utah? As far as I know there aren’t any SpaceX facilities in that area. Crazy how you work at SpaceX and throw darts are Chandler Halderson’s picture, and are also purchasing Ruby Franks’s home. How did you manage those 2 crazy coincidences? 😂
Such a tragic case to such loving parents 😔 also idk why but listening to that ER Physician talk was so fascinating to me. All the knowledge he spoke with and how professional and easy to understand he was. He has definitely found his calling in his career choice 👏🏻
He tried so hard to hide all the lies but then decides he wants a trial where everyone can see how ridiculous he really is
Everyone in this psycho’s life was so kind and generous to him. Makes this even more foul.
I agree. Chandler had a support network that most people dream of and then he did this 😢
This comment deserves thousands of upvotes.
@@22ergie thank you
He will still tell you he’s the victim in all this.
His father wasn't. He treated Chandler like s**t. Plus no one really know what goes on behind closed doors. I feel sorry for Chandler.
This lovely young woman cares more about his parents than he does.
Yes amd the brother
She had to have smelled death in that house. Because someone 2 blocks away smelled it
My thoughts exactly!
Well, taking into account he killed them...yes.
@@cchanel6348 hahah yes the bar is very low!
Psychopaths have NO REMORSE what they do to their victims. I feel so sorry for this girl when she found out who he really was. What a waste of 2 years in her precious life.
It is absolutely awful for her, but imagine- she could have ended up wasting 20 years of her life on him and then gotten killed by him once he wanted a younger woman…😨
No doubt this trauma will likely affect her for a very long time, if not for life. I imagine trust being a huge issue for her in any potential future relationships. My heart breaks for her, it truly does. By the sounds of it she was very close with Bart & Krista so she's mourning their loss along with grieving the relationship she thought she had with Chandler. So while she did (possibly quite literally) dodge a bullet, it may take years for her to actually realize that & to see the good in this situation. I truly hope she gets there one day though. I wish her all the help, healing, love & happiness she deserves moving forward with the rest of her life.💖
@@platedlizard - At least she didn’t have kids with this monster! Financial ties can always be severed. Sharing children is more difficult.
Bet you she visits him lol
She is evasive and as two people are dead do not like her for that reason.
The more he asks the more she realizes how badly she got played
Exactly
those of you asking how Cat could have not known… i’m assuming you have never interacted with a sociopath, at least not that you’ve known about. you’d be amazed at how convincing, charming, and manipulative they can be. i sincerely hope that poor girl gets the help she needs to move on with her life in a healthy way and doesn’t blame herself 💜
Exactly! My ex husband was a psychopath and my whole family & I believed everything he said, because he seemed so genuine, but he was in fact very manipulative and lied about everything.
Well stated!! She was only 21 and young, naive and in love…probably her first serious relationship also!! I’m 41 and had been in many relationships, before I met my sons father and last ex that was a narcissistic abuser. I had never met anyone like that before and was honestly uneducated/naive to many things! For 10 years, I was in a relationship with him and thank god that I’m aware of at least…he wasn’t a murderer and as awful as this guy…but I never thought I would put up, be “duped” or stay with someone that was like him! It’s like you said…how convincing, charming and manipulative these people can be and if you are in love…and don’t remotely have the mindset of these people…it’s easy for someone to ignore possible red flags, etc. I know I will never again be in this situation for many reasons and I’m sure she won’t either after especially all of this!! My heart breaks for this girl and I feel exactly like you stated!! I was also one of those people that would have that way of thinking…not understanding how these people didn’t know or see what was going on…but after my relationship…my mindset has completely changed!
@@kat0726 I know..my x Family were and are all liers, both my adult KIDS are the same.
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I think she stoked hatred for his parents because they wouldnt let them hang out
Love how polite the judge is with the jury and the people testifying. Never heard of people testifying ask for break’s before.
I have but he is very thoughtful
This judge comes across as a very professional, polite, fair, and respectful person.
@@melstiller8561 Yes! I noticed how polite he was. He tries to make everyone comfortable. Very soothing voice and choice of words.
He is very sweet lol I thought the same thing.
Me neither, I've never heard a witness asking for a break. When Cathryn's mother asked for a break, I was like "Huh? You can do that?". But yeah, this judge is so so sweet and totally awesome. Wishes each and every witness a good rest of their day. I get hurt on his behalf when they don't day it back, but I would imagine the witness (especially newbies to a court) just wanna get outta there and probably haven't registered what he said. Have you seen his earring? 😎
I'm impressed with the audio in this trial. One of the best I've seen.
The best AUDIO you have ever SEEN…
Heard baby heard!
Me too!! Thank god! I hate trials that have bad audio
@@ErikS- lol, heard! I heard
Me too
I wish they would do a playlist where they put the video segments in order.
I guess the playlist won't be available until all videos have been uploaded but it would be so much more helpful it they numbered the videos.
@@nettnett660 it’s number by trail days? What are y’all talking about
Thank you.
Click the channels name and then click videos, everything is in order.
@@mitchellmaytorena1137 thank you. I found a playlist after I scrolled down a bit.
Krista and Bart seemed like such kind people. This guy didn't even think to realize how good he had it. A lot of us had abusive parents and wish we could've had parents like them. I feel so horrible for Cat as well. And everyone that their death has impacted.
They seemed like the perfect in laws. It doesn't happen often
I can’t believe the trauma Cat has gone through and going through. The shock of him murdering his parents and THEN going on the stand. I’m truly hoping she’s doing okay
How does a 23 year old with absolutely no money and still gets grounded by his parents, snag a girl like this?
Been a lying sociopath?
Big peepee?
Because she had a beautiful, trusting heart. After seeing mum and mums gf/fiance it's not surprising. I hope she knows it was awful, terrible bad luck that she met Chandler and isn't disillusioned for life like an older person might be 😢 . I wish her, her mum and Cres all the love possible.
I cant resist watching these Trials. Even though they are so distressing…….This Judge is particularly respectful to everyone.. 🙏🏼
Cat seems like such a kind, intelligent, and brave young woman. I hope she recovers from the scars of this tragedy.
So Chandler is not only a murderer but just an all around lying pos as well. I feel terrible for this young lady & I hope she finds true love & happiness in her life as soon as she’s ready.
Sounds like a pathological liar too
She was moving to Fl with him going to work for Space X, he already have apartment !
We heard people lied, but this parents murderers LIED his whole being.
The schooling
The job #1
The job#2
The future Space X job
The parents going vacationing!
And the final TRUTH!
His father going to confront the school,the dark lies going to be expose,no more
room for lie,
No school, no job, No future job!
I feel so bad for Cathryn. I just wish life has something great in store for her in the future. She deserves it.
And her mum and her mum's gf. 3 lovely, kind women.
Cat is such a beautiful & bright young woman, and my heart breaks for her. I can't imagine spending two years with someone, falling in love and planning a future with that person, then to find out that person is a psychopath. I truly pray this sweet young woman can move past this and find love again, because it can't be easy to trust anyone after this horrific crime that has impacted her life and many others. 💔😔
God, poor Cat :( I cannot even imagine. I dated someone who lied about being in college once. My dad hated him from the second they met and one day had enough and called the university he said he went to. They had never heard of him, he called me and I felt like the floor fell out from under my feet. I wish I had left him then, but I didn't and it was a terrible relationship, his lying persisted. Don't ever stay with someone who lies like that. He didn't kill and dismember his family, of course, so I cannot imagine having the upset of realizing you've been lied to AND he's a psychopath that can saw his parents into pieces. Horrifying.
Also, her hair is so beautiful. I love the gray streaks!
I bet that you now feel horrible for not listening to your father about him, the same happened with me!
I went through a period where I lied about who I was to a lot of people. I hurt many people. I’m so thankful God taught me a valuable lesson and gave me the courage to tell them all the truth. Now I am very careful not to lie. Its a terrible feeling and the truth will always set you free!!
KillerKat as she goes by online was no Victim, she knew all about his lies from the beginning his many ex-girlfriends will attest to that. This fact alone debunks the narrative that were been fed of this naive gullible girl duped by this psyco.
Rubbish, she actually enabled him.
Let's see what her full unedited police interview has to say, I suggest it speaks volumes of her complicity in this heinous crime.
To put an end to all the speculation
Innuendo and implication that will surely follow.I would like to think it would be in her best interests. She's Innocent Right, well that's what we are being led to believe
Anyone care that the Cat the ex girlfriend is an actress and participates in acting slasher like films?
I think perhaps my favorite part of this entire trial is when the prosecution asks Dr. Lohmeier, "At any point in time did you..." and then she reads off all the absurd things Chandler had been reporting that his TERRIBLE concussion had done to him causing long-term debilitating and incapacitating problems for him and one by one the doctor answers back, "No mam" to every single one of them. I particularly enjoyed it because Chandler had to sit there and listen as lie after lie after lie that he had been telling people about how he couldn't walk and couldn't drive and couldn't fly and would need to have a hole drilled in his head and (my personal favorite) would need a colostomy bag, etc. etc. etc. was exposed. I wonder if he has enough decency that he was even embarrassed by that testimony.
However, he seemed to care about Cat and it must have stung, when asked how she knew Chandler, to hear her say, "We WERE in a relationship." You pretty much destroyed your relationship with every person in your life, didn't you, Chaz? I would predict that you can look forward to some excruciatingly long, lonely years in the coming decades because if I counted correctly, the only person I believe who will want to have anything at all to do with you in the future is your Granny.
Gone in a flash
I agree he didn't want to b in court so he has to sit and watch its mind boggling how his ego and pride that he killed for are gone in a flash he feels fudge!!!! No way!!!! His mind was lieing to him making him think he's gonna get away with it living a lie
His mind led him to believe no way are they ever gonna know his mind believed it all his ego pride of false thinking was instantly gone to his mind not believing how they fudging found out!!!! The devil got him
I’m not so sure. This trial was in Jan 2022. And at least up until Nov 2021, (2 months before trial) Cat was talking to him daily, constant I love you’s, making plans for their life together after he was acquitted, paying for all of his commissary, p/c’s, stamps etc. She was avoiding all news, refused to read about the investigation etc. Maybe in those 2 months something changed? But that’s some pretty strong denial…
@@maryb6672 What's even more odd/interesting is that the cops duped her phone July 8. They interviewed her again on the 16th, and she pointed out the Snapchat screenshot she took of Chandler in the woods when he claimed to be home doing chores. The cops had the screenshot but missed it's significance. She explained what it meant...and that's how police linked Chandler with the remains of Krista found there two days earlier. He might not have been charged with his mother's death if she didn't step up.
What a chill courtroom. That judge is almost jolly. Love it
I feel so bad for his ex girlfriend it's like reliving all the lies of a beautiful life u planned with ur boyfriend thrown in ur face all over again and to find out the kind of monster he really is
"we're going to Disney land!!" (Ends up in a homicide trial)
This is very true.
i hope she never saw what her hubby did to the poor parents she had a good relationship with, she would have really tossed her cookies, its twats like this monster that make it worse for us honest ppl and i wouldn't blame her if she only dated women fro now on.I hope he gets something tossed when he gets to prison the POS
Or she planned it.
At the same time she was just thinking about what her life will be with him
His ex girlfriend is so embarrassed. Many times she looks directly at the camera, turns her head when drinking water, etc. She was totally catfished by this pos. All this testimony is reminding her of just how duped she really was. I truly feel bad for her.
American family school and space-ex omg.......we need lie detectors on the street for everyday people
Or…. She was deeply involved and made a deal with the DA and is “so embarrassed” for herself.
Duped ??? it’s beyond duped she was in the house after his parents were dead. The thought of being there is the most terrifying incident ever.
….that being said….how do you not know? Seems very obvious.
@@timyo6288 right!! One will never know ..
Cat must be so traumatized by all of this. She truly cared for the Haldersons, and you can see how painful their loss was for her. You can also see how painful it was for her to discover that the man she was with for years had completely fabricated his entire life and the future she looked forward to was never going to happen. Now she has to explain and expose it all; not just in front of members of her community, but world wide as this trial is broadcast online. As we all know, what’s posted on the internet, lives forever. Poor baby
My heart breaks for her. I think most of us have been in a relationship where we found out someone wasn’t who we believed they were but this is on another level. I hope she gets some help to process what she had actually been through.
Yeap. Off the chart type of level
So glad she has some comfort that she did not hold back with any information that she had. She literally gave up the ghost and led the parents of the monster being to justice - if justice could be found in this occasion.
Sending Cathryn, her family and the loved ones of the deceased my prayer’s that strength, peace and tranquillity comes into their lives expeditiously.
Cathryn the best revenge against for what Chandler did to you will be to live your life to the fullest, continue on with your education to earn your career, you will find the right partner in life when the time is right...don’t give Chandler any power to damper your shining light.
Very well said!
The greatest comment ever!!
Beautifully said. Sending healing prayers to Cathryn, her family and Chandler's family as well.
Wanted to say the same but you said it much better than I cloud ever.
Beautifully and well stated!!
People implying or stating outright that she was involved with this are sickening. She was cleared by a hyper-vigilant police investigation which she was 100% cooperative with. Some people just always want to blame the women for some reason.
Lol yes bc women get screwed over more today.....😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 What a joke!!
And to ppl who maybe naive to the deceit of women pay attention to reality......
Yup. They are either women haters or other women who are jealous of her because she's pretty.
@@charliechurch5004 enlighten me as to how she is being deceptive, since you know much more about this case than any of us do….
1st of all I agree, she’s probably not involved. 2nd, police are capable of lying. 3rd, someone is totally capable with complying with police and not getting caught/implicated. I really hope it’s the 1st one but I don’t know.
I love that this prosecutor is being do gentle with her. She is a victim also.
She paid when they went out. What a zero he is.
He had no monopoly money in his wallet from his imaginary job.
Yeah a real POS this guy and unfortunately there is one word which comes to my mind if I look at the ex-girlfriend and that is NAIVE. Poor girl was played badly and had no clue what a psychopath her boyfriend is!
Her paying isn’t the problem. It’s the fact that she paid all the time and then he kept borrowing money from her knowing he’d never actually pay her back. He took advantage of her
As difficult as this line of questioning has been for Cathryn she will such a stronger woman for it. She is young and she got out of this horrendous situation with her whole life ahead of her. Most women her age unfortunately will be much older before they experience how treacherous relationships can be. I hope she focuses of her career and finds the person who will treat her well.
💯 agree
Some relationships, you are lucky to get out ALIVE. I know it!
How will she ever be able to trust enough to actually love again?
This poor ex gf was in shock, wishing her all the best. Hope the juries take note how much what this chandler is affecting everyone around him.
KillerKat as she goes by online was no Victim, she knew all about his lies from the beginning his many ex-girlfriends will attest to that. This fact alone debunks the narrative that were been fed of this naive gullible girl duped by this psyco.
Rubbish, she actually enabled him.
Let's see what her full unedited police interview has to say, I suggest it speaks volumes of her complicity in this heinous crime.
To put an end to all the speculation
Innuendo and implication that will surely follow.I would like to think it would be in her best interests. She's Innocent Right, well that's what we are being led to believe
Anyone care that the Cat the ex girlfriend is an actress and participates in acting slasher like films?
If he had headaches due to a suspected minor concussion and had to rest his eyes, why on earth would he spend hours and hours in front of a lit, busy screen playing video games?
Exactly!
@@pipr5070 --
If the defense is going to make the jury believe their client (guilty as sin in my books) was too physically debilitated to murder his father, dismember him and then lug his remains where he dispose of them, they really have another thing coming.
@@melstiller8561 I’m leaning more towards, well he did it but this “head injury” (fake) was the reason he did it. His “injury” was so bad that it made him lose his mind and chop up his parents. 🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@MrsMrMoney --
We all know the defense's job is to throw wrenches in the wheels of truth and facts -- anything to try and convince a jury that their client was "temporarily mentally ill in view of his injuries" (as you've suggested). It reminds me of Miss Geraldine (played on television by comedian Flip Wilson) who used to blame her/his bad behavior on the devil. "The devil made me do it," Miss Geraldine would say. Yup, nowadays no one is responsible for their actions, because the "evil one" or "temporary insanity" (or both) makes them do the unthinkable.😏
I work in healthcare, and if he was having problems with his legs, vision, headaches, altered state of mind, they would have revoked his drivers license as he would be a huge risk to the public and himself. There's no way he would be driving with a brain bleed. In some cases, the don't even let you drive with a neck brace as your range of head movement is limited.
I have never seen the defendant talk with his attorneys once, nor his attorneys ask him any questions. Seems they just sit there and ignore him!
Looks to me they're just going through the motions. At times the younger attorney looks disgusted to be on the same table as the defendant.
All they get from Chandler is lies, so how is he going to be of any help at all to them?
I have never watched a full trial before. It really makes clear the damage CH did to so many people.
If Chandler spent a fraction of his time and energy into being a regular person (i.e. going to school, getting a job/working, volunteering etc) as he did pretending he was a regular person and covering up that he wasn't, then he'd probably be pretty successful.
That's exactly what I kept thinking. When Cat's mother testified about Chandler being a great cook when making salmon, I was like "hello, career path, chef, no schooling needed, makes money, has potential for a life long endeavour!".... if he'd bothered to put any effort in actually being an adult. It's horrific how far he could have gone in life if he'd just TRIED.
But he didn't want to be a normal person. He was going to work at spaceX, shape the future, be (somewhat) important.
Those deep breaths she’s taking are choking back tears. She isn’t a hostile witness- she’s in shock. Give her a break!!
😔😔😔
You didn't hear their jail phone call ? Her and her mother think he is inocent . She have to testified or be concidered a complice to the crime
Helloooooo Dr. Lohmeir...
It's really awesome to be able to watch such a skillful prosecution team weave their narrative using witnesses at such strategic times. This trial has been so fascinating, even knowing that Chandler is obviously guilty, the prosecutorial team is incredible.
hes kind of flirty lmao
Yea he's hot fo sho. Lol
@@ninachkah13 and he knows it too, with that sly smile 😏
Dr. Dreamy has the lawyer a little giggly. I don't blame her;)
l know Doc ws straight up eye candy! 🍭🍬🍫😍😘 Wouldn't mind calling 911 just for him! ❤
Apart from heart going out for Bart, Krista, and Mitchell, I feel the most bad for Kat. This poor, poor girl. The thought that she was hugging and kissing the vermin on the night his parents were chopped up and dismembered.
So in layman's terms, He fell down and bumped his wittle head. Then played it up for sympathy and attention 🙄.
You just know he googled those symptoms 😂
Plus used it to try and get out of the lies he told about Space X. Since he had no degree, no money and no job at Space X he painted himself into a corner.
I doubt he even fell down. It was all apart of his sick, twisted plan
Absolutely. He saw Mitchell get extra love and attention when he had his hospital stint so good ole chandler wanted in on that too.
Chandler is so manipulative in his messages to his ex girlfriend. And she is a young woman who cannot see what Chandler is like at all because she herself is the complete opposite. So sad that she has to learn this way that there are a lot of idiots on this globe.
That is why so many get deceived by covert narcissists because they cannot conceive of their evil and so , get duped.
@@carolbell8008 yes..I guess mine was the same..mine was very violent, and both my adult KIDS are the same..
KillerKat as she goes by online was no Victim, she knew all about his lies from the beginning his many ex-girlfriends will attest to that. This fact alone debunks the narrative that were been fed of this naive gullible girl duped by this psyco.
Rubbish, she actually enabled him.
Let's see what her full unedited police interview has to say, I suggest it speaks volumes of her complicity in this heinous crime.
To put an end to all the speculation
Innuendo and implication that will surely follow.I would like to think it would be in her best interests. She's Innocent Right, well that's what we are being led to believe
Anyone care that the Cat the ex girlfriend is an actress and participates in acting slasher like films?
When she says Hubby that about broke my heart. She seems so sweet and down to earth!
Get a grip you mug.
KillerKat as she goes by online was no Victim, she knew all about his lies from the beginning his many ex-girlfriends will attest to that. This fact alone debunks the narrative that were been fed of this naive gullible girl duped by this psyco.
Rubbish, she actually enabled him.
Let's see what her full unedited police interview has to say, I suggest it speaks volumes of her complicity in this heinous crime.
To put an end to all the speculation
Innuendo and implication that will surely follow.I would like to think it would be in her best interests. She's Innocent Right, well that's what we are being led to believe
Anyone care that the Cat the ex girlfriend is an actress and participates in acting slasher like films?
“At any point in time did you drill a hole in his head?” Hahahahahaha
😅😂
What time stamp?
He should have...🤣
@@belloftheball4518 21:33
@@PolevayaMysh thank you 🙏
You know I'm taking Great Pleasure in watching the Prosecution putting one nail after another into leaving Chandler naked before the world! He duped his parents and his girlfriend and thought he was a criminal mastermind. He literally left clues to everything he did. Before he killed his parents and Definitely after. Everyone around him was in danger.
I feel so sorry for Cat too. I had an ex steal over €10,000 from me and went out of his way to destroy my life when I tried to get it back. It nearly put me off all people for life and I lost complete faith in people and she’s there with a boyfriend who butchered his own parents and burned their heads in their fireplace. She will be traumatised for life and he tried to pin it on her mum too.
Exactly, she is lucky to be alive, especially since she was in the house with him after his horrible crime.
This psychopath cared only for his video games. Wow. I'm sure that is what he was doing while he was "on call" and couldn't hang out with this poor young lady. She is going to tear herself up so badly for doing what she should do...trusting and believing the person you love. I feel so bad for her and she takes care of herself. He is a true monster.
Wow, wouldn't it be easier to just go to school or get a job?
He worked harder at avoiding jobs & school than he ever would have put into actually working or studying.
😂Exactly!!!
It was just a single button press to pick up or drop a dead or unconscious body in his favorite video game.
Unfortunately for him, this was his only source of research and planning…
My thoughts exactly
Man, ive watched hours of footage on this case but it really hit me when Cat got emotional up there 😢 I guess i never realized she admired his parents so much, poor girl
My heart goes out to the family & everyone else who loved, trusted, and believed him. How do you recover after something this devastating? Praying for strength & peace for all involved... except for Chandler of course. I hope guilt tears him apart... unlikely considering all he's done but still hoping.
handler killed his parents because his Dad caught him in a lie and Chandler could not face him. When Cat found out he lied about everything would he have killed her too? I think so. That is now he coped with life, He would not have let her go.
KillerKat as she goes by online was no Victim, she knew all about his lies from the beginning his many ex-girlfriends will attest to that. This fact alone debunks the narrative that were been fed of this naive gullible girl duped by this psyco.
Rubbish, she actually enabled him.
Let's see what her full unedited police interview has to say, I suggest it speaks volumes of her complicity in this heinous crime.
To put an end to all the speculation
Innuendo and implication that will surely follow.I would like to think it would be in her best interests. She's Innocent Right, well that's what we are being led to believe
Anyone care that the Cat the ex girlfriend is an actress and participates in acting slasher like films?
I feel deeply for this young lady.
@@jonboll-LGM I like ur attitude!!👍 I bet u are a get er done type!! Good for u!! A positive outlook goes a long way!!!
@@ErinJeanette She is embarrassed!! What don't you get about that?
@@audreymai2773 exactly she is embarrassed and very hurt you can tell, she doesn't look cold at all, others saying that seriously have problems.
@Jon Boll I just started following this case. Your comment just sent shivers down my spine.
@Erin B i feel bad for the way your brain takes in information. You seem very disillusioned and ignorant that its completely asisine and irrelevant to all the evidence in this case. But go on now..
The excitement she felt, an amazing future for her potential husband with SpaceX, and he WANTS her to be with him; only to fall into this sick nightmare of murder & lies.
She's so young, was hopeful. Everyone believed him, (until his father started digging) so it's very natural she would believe the best as well. What a shattering slam right in the face. I cannot imagine finding out someone you love and trust not only lied so MUCH, but then dismembered his parents and dumped his fathers torso onto your families land. Wrapping your mind around that is unfathomable.
Edit; And how tf do you ground a 23 year old? How embarrassing to either admit that, or lie about that to cover for your nefarious plans. So gross and nauseating. I hope she is able to find a decent, normal person to love and be loved by, and can learn to trust again.
I pray the family pays for this young lady’s therapist bless her heart ❤️
KillerKat as she goes by online was no Victim, she knew all about his lies from the beginning his many ex-girlfriends will attest to that. This fact alone debunks the narrative that were been fed of this naive gullible girl duped by this psyco.
Rubbish, she actually enabled him.
Let's see what her full unedited police interview has to say, I suggest it speaks volumes of her complicity in this heinous crime.
To put an end to all the speculation
Innuendo and implication that will surely follow.I would like to think it would be in her best interests. She's Innocent Right, well that's what we are being led to believe
Anyone care that the Cat the ex girlfriend is an actress and participates in acting slasher like films?
I love this judge! Horrific story… as a mom I can’t even imagine 💔 it’s nice to see a good judge though.
It's sad. Cat has Chandler in her phone as "Hubby
This ER MD is my hero. God bless him.
Chandlers friend in the army had a head trauma. He was discharged from the army. Chandler took that head trauma from his friend. I pray this guy never gives another weapon he meets over the internet
I feel so bad for this young woman. This whole case is a tragedy.
Kat is so horrified about what chandler has done she's had a very lucky escape, I hope she can move on with her life & put this horrendous chapter behind her & forget this evil monster.
KillerKat as she goes by online was no Victim, she knew all about his lies from the beginning his many ex-girlfriends will attest to that. This fact alone debunks the narrative that were been fed of this naive gullible girl duped by this psyco.
Rubbish, she actually enabled him.
Let's see what her full unedited police interview has to say, I suggest it speaks volumes of her complicity in this heinous crime.
To put an end to all the speculation
Innuendo and implication that will surely follow.I would like to think it would be in her best interests. She's Innocent Right, well that's what we are being led to believe
Anyone care that the Cat the ex girlfriend is an actress and participates in acting slasher like films?
His ex girlfriend’s testimony was heartbreaking. I hope never to know what that feels like, but fwiw Ms mellender you have a great, long life ahead of you. You’ll get over this and thrive.
Doctor from the hospital is a straight up doll! 🥰❤️
I love how they are really spotlighting how his whole life was just a lie.
His lies just kept getting bigger and he never thought it was going to catch up with him. I wonder if he was like that as a child
Cathryn is heart broken, shocked and completely bewildered by what he has done.
KillerKat as she goes by online was no Victim, she knew all about his lies from the beginning his many ex-girlfriends will attest to that. This fact alone debunks the narrative that were been fed of this naive gullible girl duped by this psyco.
Rubbish, she actually enabled him.
Let's see what her full unedited police interview has to say, I suggest it speaks volumes of her complicity in this heinous crime.
To put an end to all the speculation
Innuendo and implication that will surely follow.I would like to think it would be in her best interests. She's Innocent Right, well that's what we are being led to believe
Anyone care that the Cat the ex girlfriend is an actress and participates in acting slasher like films?
Catheryn, Chandler's ex-girlfriend, has suffered so much from this entire situation. My heart goes out to her. Many of of us have been duped by an unscrupulous person at such a young age. Hopefully she will go on and repair her life. It will difficult trusting any man for quite a while or maybe never. I hope this young beautiful woman concentrates on her life, education and career, family and goes to counseling. She will have to work through all those questions about why this happened. Narcissists are liars that have no empathy for anyone. They prey upon people who have something in their lives that they want. Chandler was looking for someone to take care of him. He knew the jig was up with his parents, so he killed them. If he had been honest with his family, and told them he was unable to work or finish college, they would have found him help. Reminds me of the Menendez brothers. Sons who want to be rich off of their parents' hard work, scrimping and saving, to offer their children a better life. Chandler reminds me of a tornado. He spun through so many lives tearing up everything in his path.
If you have been following this, was he considering killing his neighbors? He went to their homes to inquire about surveillance cameras on their property. Luckily they turned the footage as evidence into the Police Dept. He killed before to keep his secret. Bizarre case!
Joel guy Jr vibes, minus the notebook with his entire plan. Wonder what makes these psychos think they will get away with this sort of thing... They're so narcissistic that they believe they will pull the wool over literally everyone's eyes. Amazing.
It’s scares me to think that my abusive ex, before he become physically abusive, used to make up or exaggerate sceneries or issues to get my sympathy & support. Often times, he would ask me if I would still love him if blah blah blah would happen. Or he would say something negative about himself to get me to compliment or reassure him. All narcissists do the exact same things. It’s like there’s some manual they learn from and repeat.
Gosh the girlfriend's testimony is so sad, she's so upset. Imagine finding this out about your boyfriend.
I think it might also be shame, i.e. victim-blaming from herself in a way. There are probably a million thoughts she's had like "if I had looked in that fireplace I'd probably have seen a piece of bone" or "how did I not see how many bloodstains there were?", all in addition to the obvious horror of knowing you slept and lived in a house just feet away from the skull incinerator, and maybe tens of feet away at most from a freezer full of dismembered corpses
After seeing how out of his league she is (in every way), Chandler’s main motives become very clear.
Also, I am sure they already told her of all his lies - or most of them - but it almost seems like she is finding out the depth of his lies while she is on the stand!
KillerKat as she goes by online was no Victim, she knew all about his lies from the beginning his many ex-girlfriends will attest to that. This fact alone debunks the narrative that were been fed of this naive gullible girl duped by this psyco.
Rubbish, she actually enabled him.
Let's see what her full unedited police interview has to say, I suggest it speaks volumes of her complicity in this heinous crime.
To put an end to all the speculation
Innuendo and implication that will surely follow.I would like to think it would be in her best interests. She's Innocent Right, well that's what we are being led to believe
Anyone care that the Cat the ex girlfriend is an actress and participates in acting slasher like films?
It seems like the ex girlfriend is in shock, recounting details that are all...lies. What a monster.
The ex gf's FIRST CLUE that he was a LOSER, is that when they went out, SHE always paid!
Wow she’s a baby, so young. Poor girl to have to deal with such a creep. Talk about PTSD with future dating
I know, right? How will she ever be able to trust a man?
She's an adult....not a baby. She should have seen the signs he's a nut job it's ridiculous
so sad isnt it. Glad she got out with her life though. unfortunately could've been so much worse. Hope she gets counseling she needs
@@charliechurch5004 By that logic, his parents and other relatives/friends should have seen the signs too. But nobody did because people like him are good at hiding it.
@@charliechurch5004 you could say the same for his parents. Why didn’t they see this coming if she could have?
Poor Er Doctor had a tough time not laughing! He will have fun on the golf course & around the fire with that 1! Lol
Oh we need to see the interrogation tapes on this one.
Crime circus
Deny deny deny is the m.o. for liars! Look at watts,!
The interrogation was really something. They already figured it was him. He gave a detailed hour by hour full detail story about his injuries and his parents going to the cabin and then went missing. You have to see it.
KillerKat as she goes by online was no Victim, she knew all about his lies from the beginning his many ex-girlfriends will attest to that. This fact alone debunks the narrative that were been fed of this naive gullible girl duped by this psyco.
Rubbish, she actually enabled him.
Let's see what her full unedited police interview has to say, I suggest it speaks volumes of her complicity in this heinous crime.
To put an end to all the speculation
Innuendo and implication that will surely follow.I would like to think it would be in her best interests. She's Innocent Right, well that's what we are being led to believe
Anyone care that the Cat the ex girlfriend is an actress and participates in acting slasher like films?
Its all on UA-cam
“Just to be clear that’s a bag for poop” I like this prosecutor
Poor beautiful little thing. So young. Just tragic for her. My heart breaks for her💔
Bet she goes and visits him
@@June-tb4vi you clearly can’t read a person well of you think she’s going to visit him. Lol
@@June-tb4vi you are a troll no way you got that from her testimony
@@June-tb4vi Correct she's already spoken to him.
KillerKat as she goes by online was no Victim, she knew all about his lies from the beginning his many ex-girlfriends will attest to that. This fact alone debunks the narrative that were been fed of this naive gullible girl duped by this psyco.
Rubbish, she actually enabled him.
Let's see what her full unedited police interview has to say, I suggest it speaks volumes of her complicity in this heinous crime.
To put an end to all the speculation
Innuendo and implication that will surely follow.I would like to think it would be in her best interests. She's Innocent Right, well that's what we are being led to believe
Anyone care that the Cat the ex girlfriend is an actress and participates in acting slasher like films?
@June miserable much ya seem. You seem very disillusioned to this entire case had you paid attention to all the evidence given and its completely asinine to suggest that. But go on your doing just great now
His lies were so embarrassingly transparent, it's like something we'd expect from a toddler. Evidently, the problem here is that nobody in his world was willing to challenge him when his career of lying began.
Yessssss the doc is awesome and believing and the patients unless info otherwise is a BEAUTIFUL thing
Awee... she even had a dog named Chewbacca. Somehow that made me even more sad for her. I feel bad for her. What a shocker all this must have been.
KillerKat as she goes by online was no Victim, she knew all about his lies from the beginning his many ex-girlfriends will attest to that. This fact alone debunks the narrative that were been fed of this naive gullible girl duped by this psyco.
Rubbish, she actually enabled him.
Let's see what her full unedited police interview has to say, I suggest it speaks volumes of her complicity in this heinous crime.
To put an end to all the speculation
Innuendo and implication that will surely follow.I would like to think it would be in her best interests. She's Innocent Right, well that's what we are being led to believe
Anyone care that the Cat the ex girlfriend is an actress and participates in acting slasher like films?
Anyone that dives regularly or is in upper training courses has dive gear all over. How do you these people believe this kid is a trained rescue diver and no certification or log books anywhere.
Never underestimate someone’s ability to manipulate another…I never thought it could happen to me. Yet it did.
I know nothing about diving so I wouldn't think to look for evidence of my boyfriend lying about working for the police. Who would be that bold?!?
Wow! This kid is a big liar!!! I would love to know what the doctor was thinking as he answered the questions from the prosecution.
I wish the lawyer would ask Cat "do you think Chandler ever told the truth about anything at all?"
What's sick is she made love to him after he was up all night hacking up his parents. Then he sent her home after because he "chores'.
The doctor...I laughed watching his face 😂😂😂😂
Why in the world would he say he might have to get a colostomy bag for a concussion ? That’s such a weird thing to tell people
He meant to correlate the colostomy bag down the road due to "the hit to the spine". Typically, the hit to the spine sometimes would require a colostomy bag due to near complete paralysis from the spine down. Generally, these people don't walk on two feet, not even with a cane. Basically he probably read about Christopher Reeve's injury and decided to go with that route.
WHY, when he had a whole empty country at his disposal would he brings his father's torso to the gf's mother's gf's property? I mean, it's just doesnt make any sense, if his goal was not to get caught.
I agree! He’s either the dumbest criminal on this planet or he did everything possible to purposely get caught. I don’t think he had any remorse and therefore wanted to get caught so my belief is he’s just the dumbest criminal on the planet. I’m going with that.
I feel sorry for his ex-girlfriend. To have to so publicly admit the extent to which she was duped.
She knows it too. She keeps making eye contact with the camera
She was not duped you mug.
KillerKat as she goes by online was no Victim, she knew all about his lies from the beginning his many ex-girlfriends will attest to that. This fact alone debunks the narrative that were been fed of this naive gullible girl duped by this psyco.
Rubbish, she actually enabled him.
Let's see what her full unedited police interview has to say, I suggest it speaks volumes of her complicity in this heinous crime.
To put an end to all the speculation
Innuendo and implication that will surely follow.I would like to think it would be in her best interests. She's Innocent Right, well that's what we are being led to believe
Anyone care that the Cat the ex girlfriend is an actress and participates in acting slasher like films?
@@stepheneurosailor1623 When last did someone pointed out the extent of your assholery?
She's so beautiful, I don't even understand how in the heck she was with this bum. Not only is he not physically attractive, he's one of the worst human beings that I've ever seen... this couldn't have started the day he decided to murder his parents.
Hearing the ER physician blow all the b.s. Chandler had said was wrong with him out of the water was awesome! Boom!
I agree, love this er doc!
So literally nothing wrong with him was the Doctors diagnoses.
Poor girl dodged a huge bullet.
he didn't kill her but he sure did drag her and her family thru this craziness.
She would DEFINITELY have been next if she had moved down to Florida or otherwise remained with him. She would have figured out his BS and he would have disposed of her.
@@dianayount2122 I think he would have ultimately killed her if for example, his parents kicked him out of their house, he went to live with her, and then she kicked him out.
B I N G O
@@dianayount2122 No doubt it damaged her reputation, too. Just look at how people in the comment sections of these videos talk about her. I’d never use social media again
Dr Lohmeier can treat me anytime.
Right!! LOL
Saaame
😭😭😂😂
This poor girl will forever have trust issues
I was just thinking that!! Some serious PTSD
She need a lot of Therapy hours
im glad cat and mitchel are safe
What a nightmare for this poor girl....
She's a woman
@@charliechurch5004 Whatever....
I don’t think she will be trusting any men too soon😢
good judge, great prosecutor, Cat did well to stay so composed and alert
Grounded at 23 years old? Omfg this man lie about anything
That poor girl. Cat is absolutely beautiful. She'll bounce back and meet a real man. But you can tell she's traumatized.
KillerKat as she goes by online was no Victim, she knew all about his lies from the beginning his many ex-girlfriends will attest to that. This fact alone debunks the narrative that were been fed of this naive gullible girl duped by this psyco.
Rubbish, she actually enabled him.
Let's see what her full unedited police interview has to say, I suggest it speaks volumes of her complicity in this heinous crime.
To put an end to all the speculation
Innuendo and implication that will surely follow.I would like to think it would be in her best interests. She's Innocent Right, well that's what we are being led to believe
Anyone care that the Cat the ex girlfriend is an actress and participates in acting slasher like films?
I know chandler was just sitting there thinking about how he was completely screwed as more and more of his lies came undone.
She reminds me of my younger sister, very naïve. very young. First serious relationship. Blinded - jail called and messaged with him up to just 2 months ahead of the trial. Anyway, that being said, I understand her wanting to conceal herself but lying to the court about why isn't the best course of action. The pros tried to save her with "you work in healthcare right?" That's a reaaach... she's a pharmacy tech.
she was still coming into contact with immunocompromised people and handling their meds so i don't think it was unreasonable
I work for Space X and this case and especially Chandler is a meme in the office, we have his picture in a side room where we play darts and throw them at his picture.
Funny and horrid at the same time right!! Can you imagine him working with him?!?
what do you do, CGI?
😂🤣
What do you do ?
If you work for Space X why would you comment on another video that you purchased Ruby France’s home in Utah? As far as I know there aren’t any SpaceX facilities in that area.
Crazy how you work at SpaceX and throw darts are Chandler Halderson’s picture, and are also purchasing Ruby Franks’s home. How did you manage those 2 crazy coincidences?
😂
She is lucky that she didn't suspect anything or she would have ended up in the fireplace as well........so lucky
Such a tragic case to such loving parents 😔 also idk why but listening to that ER Physician talk was so fascinating to me. All the knowledge he spoke with and how professional and easy to understand he was. He has definitely found his calling in his career choice 👏🏻