In this video I talk about some of the changes you might need to make to your equipment as you move up through rank and billet. Enjoy, and stay tuned for more.
Some may argue that this isn't "lightweight" and there's too much stuff. However those same bastards are the ones who need the ATAK device, a TQ, a buzzsaw, a protractor, etc. As an 03 like 90% of the stuff I bring with me to work gets used on other dudes. Dudes need to be thinking, "what's something someone else is going to forget", when you have that mindset you become an asset to your team and not just an individual. Super high quality and a good in depth vid. Appreciate the content per usual.
"It doesnt matter if youre a plt sgt or plt leader, you still need to carry the shit you need to fight". Yes! I felt like this was a constant battle i had with my company level leadership. My platoon is my weapon but there have been plenty of times when i needed to fight as well. Platoon level leadership not expecting to get in the fight is a terrible mindset to have
Rock solid. Explaining the "why" for a lot of the seemingly smaller details adds a lot of depth for the dudes who may not understand their significance. Keep killin it.
Molle space is precious. I have been running the Flatline Fiber Co tq pouches and dump pouches. They ride below the other kit to save space. I am just a consumer I don’t make anything. Just an option.
lol! “Memorize”, yeah right! You are correct, laminated cards! You’re absolutely right! Just because you move up, you’re still a gunslinger. As a Toon Daddy, I carried everything I carried as a team guy and then some! In my early days, we used ALICE, and I had my own kit to modify and carry what worked for me. In DS/DS I carried a 2qt on each side of the buttpack, and a SAW drum pouch on each side that I was able to fit 7 mags in. I still have a similar kit, using updated H-Harness from the M56 (Nam era) that I used. We didn’t have the nice pads, we made “puss pads” out of the old foamy sleep pads. All Alice clips were removed and tied in with 550 chord. Keep the good videos coming Devil Dog. S/F
Good kit setup for leaders. Things I have on my kit that help as a leader: -IZLID Ultra on the front left of the plate carrier for target marking (Matbock pouch) -Front admin pouch (Blueforcegear is what I'm using) with a Harris Dual KDU so you can control both radios without having to take them out, especially with a 163. Also have extra wiring, a Leatherman Carbon, and a Leatherman bit kit in that admin pouch.
@@TheGruntPerspective yeah they're not super expensive. Maybe S6 can order it for you guys. But, then again, if you can't get a second PTT connector, maybe not. I think it's like $300 ish depending on what Harris quotes. Using ATAK in wet or cold conditions (gloves) is difficult since it's a touchscreen. A stylus helps. But I like having a separate KDU as a backup since it has physical buttons. Also works for the dudes who don't have an ATAK EUD. Another nice admin thing to have is a little microfiber cloth to wipe your glasses. Some guys let it dangle but I stow it in the admin pouch. Cabelas makes a neoprene-cased camo one with a little plastic carabiner. It's about 2x2". Also a big one for leaders operating at night: Sharpies. Classic, 1-ended regular tip. If you write on a Rite-in-the rain with those you can read it at night if you flip your NVGs up (disable auto-off which is a triple tap on 31s and crank the broghtness) and use the residual light coming out the ocular side. That way you don't have to use a red light and as long as you have night vision, you can read and take notes. You have to hold the notebook like 8 inches in front of your face though.
So no harm no foul if you prefer it sitting lower, but one thing I like to do with the shaw arc admin pouch /gen III PC combo is to use the two passthroughs next to the ID pouch velcro as molle to mount the pouch -- brings the admin pouch up even with the top of the PC and keeps it even more clear of your mags down below. Excellent video as always!
@@tacticalnewbe5745 I honestly push dudes for at least 8. I generally carry around 10. 6 mags is cool for training but ammo goes fast irl. The 6 mag doctrine is hot garbage. Just remember that ammo is not heavy, you might just need to get stronger.
Good video, and you are right to get up on the soap box, if your living the life you need to consider what you have, what example your setting, and what happens when you are going hands on because the enemy close enough to touch everyone’s belt buckles. Great set up to. My preference is to throw the spirits thing 2 over a slicked out plate carrier because it provides various options, same preference (LBV for PL time) I had all 3 platoons I was lucky enough to be a Platoon Leader for. My squad leader kit was more indicative of the times (early to mid GWAT) molle’d directly to the body armor. Love the channel, love the meticulous thought process you use for what your you going to the field with and what your going to war with.
Very valuable information. Your emphasis on carrying what you need to conduct the mission assigned to you is so important. so many people put lots of stuff outside of their role into their kit, like people having insane amounts of admin equipment when they really only need a small notebook and a sector of fire card or they carry an entire pouch full of radio accessories when they don't even have a radio. Mission dictates equipment, too many people both civilians and in the service try and carry equipment for 5 missions when they only have 1 mission.
Thanks man. I was recently promoted to major and realize I'm basically a slap dick carrying minimal crap like I'm in DEV Group. I'm going to ask the boys what kind of stuff would be useful to have more of and start carrying it.
Awesome video! What's the multicam MOLLE you wrapped the Shaw RDS pouch with? I'm running into the exact same issue you described with having to pull documents out of that thing
One thing I always hated was seeing plt sgt’s or company level “leaders” who couldn’t lead a flight of elephant shit. Especially when you get “leaders” from outside the 03 field in charge of you.
I love you videos. Im hoping that maybe you do some videos on some other pieces of gear like the usmc GEN 2 Flak. Im looking for a decent way to make that thing work well for me
The simplest things you can do to make it better is 550 the top of the plate bags to make stocking easier, properly size the carrier to have the top at the nape of your neck w/ bottom right over your belly button, if possibpe change out the cummerbunds, and to really get good you'll have to buy some of your own gear unfortunately
The more I learn about TLs and whatnot, the more they sound like really exhausted big brothers and mothers put together While yeah, medics maybe the grunt mums, TLs and the like are the people I can imagine triple checking a person's bag and still packing almost the same stuff on top of their own stuff "just in case" Its like moms with their pocket dimension handbags with everything from a map of the town, 10 year old toys in a ziploc, assorted snacks and sensitive papers
TLs role is relatively easy in the 03 community, even a good one. This is more so a squad/section leader and a plt Sgt set up. I would go as far as saying his set up primarily fits a plt Sgt since it’s closely identical to my kit. You’re never gonna see a TL besides maybe an APL with a 152.
Great video as always, unrelated question do you think the Shaw concepts cumbun will work with a JPC? I'm in the process of trying to upgrade mine to be a bit more structural.
@@TheGruntPerspective i checked, it does. The way the tubes are recessed a bit is critical for me and it'll fit my SOP perfectly and i think it looks like a better option than the AXL cumbun. Thanks gunny.
Good morning mister Grunt Perspective, do you ever remove the back panel from plate carrier or are you keeping it always on, even with a ruck? Good video as always.
Weight distribution. I run mine slick because of that. The only thing that sits in the front is the mystery cinch to bring all of my pack higher and tighter to my body. Other than that, everything goes the belt. Most guys bring everything up on pc, which is fine. Too many, "you gotta have's" to fill space but then the question is why? If a Marines trains everything on a built cool, so be it. Ive seen guys train with hitchhiker packs where the load sits high in the back. Preference is key. Some guys see relestate on PC, like it needed to be address. The big thing about the shaw concepts now is everyone is trying to figure out what to do with all of the different functions the plate carrior to do. You cant set a standard on something thats design to accomadate a mission set.
Do a grunt perspective on the item that you have but the formats of them. Idk what I don’t know till you show it but to someone not me might ask. How do you fit that entire map in that pouch? How does the map stay dry? What is in the admin pouch and when do I use them? Stuff along those lines please
Noob at radios, can you explain why you need the disco32 relocator and the tci mast? Is it for the QD fuction for mutiple antennas? If so can you just attach a attena straight to the disco32 for a civi use?
@@lungcanc3r666the disco 32 cable is just like and extension cord for the antenna. The TCI Mast is a little molle pouch that stabilizes to whatever you mount too. So yeah unless you have another way to stabilize it you’ll need one
@@TheGruntPerspective ahh ok cool thanks I've seen a video on someone making their own cuts but I can't find it they used scissors but I've only been able to find those ones from spiritus systems
Usually dump on the pc is for SSE and dump on the belt is for mags and jackets. Second dump is usually for water, explonsives. It can work.. I tried it couple of times, didint like it.. some people swear by it… i woulsnt recomemd it for infrantry, maybe cqb or admin…
It varies by unit, but over the last 5-10 years there has been a major cultural shift when it comes to personal gear. The guys in charge are realizing that there is better gear out there than just what is issued.
No less than 6 (5 on kit + 1 in gun) & 1 frag, but you should be carry up to 14 & 2 frags (most will be in a ruck), you should have the ability to hunp 60mm mortars and or MG ammo boxes
Army 6 mags + 1 in rifle. Another 7 in the ruck. If ammo is a priority (lets say anticipating heavy heavy contact) then id say 10 on you (6 on pc + 4 on belt) + 10 ish in the ruck.
Some may argue that this isn't "lightweight" and there's too much stuff. However those same bastards are the ones who need the ATAK device, a TQ, a buzzsaw, a protractor, etc. As an 03 like 90% of the stuff I bring with me to work gets used on other dudes. Dudes need to be thinking, "what's something someone else is going to forget", when you have that mindset you become an asset to your team and not just an individual. Super high quality and a good in depth vid. Appreciate the content per usual.
Thanks for watching!
Absolutely
Yup, I always find myself thinking "What stuff will guys inevitably forget/not have". Ear pro, 550 cord, compass to name a few. And a VS-17 panel!
@@TheGruntPerspective do a scout snipers gear load out
"It doesnt matter if youre a plt sgt or plt leader, you still need to carry the shit you need to fight". Yes! I felt like this was a constant battle i had with my company level leadership. My platoon is my weapon but there have been plenty of times when i needed to fight as well. Platoon level leadership not expecting to get in the fight is a terrible mindset to have
I’m glad I’m not the only one
Rock solid. Explaining the "why" for a lot of the seemingly smaller details adds a lot of depth for the dudes who may not understand their significance. Keep killin it.
Thanks for watching!
Molle space is precious. I have been running the Flatline Fiber Co tq pouches and dump pouches. They ride below the other kit to save space. I am just a consumer I don’t make anything. Just an option.
I’ve heard good things about them
Shaw Concepts sent me here. Great video!
Hell yeah, thanks for watching
lol! “Memorize”, yeah right! You are correct, laminated cards!
You’re absolutely right! Just because you move up, you’re still a gunslinger. As a Toon Daddy, I carried everything I carried as a team guy and then some!
In my early days, we used ALICE, and I had my own kit to modify and carry what worked for me. In DS/DS I carried a 2qt on each side of the buttpack, and a SAW drum pouch on each side that I was able to fit 7 mags in. I still have a similar kit, using updated H-Harness from the M56 (Nam era) that I used. We didn’t have the nice pads, we made “puss pads” out of the old foamy sleep pads. All Alice clips were removed and tied in with 550 chord.
Keep the good videos coming Devil Dog. S/F
I agree with what you said in the first few minutes
I’m glad I’m not the only one
Babe (Me) the new gruntperspective video dropped (a gain, literally me)
It’s been a while
Good kit setup for leaders. Things I have on my kit that help as a leader:
-IZLID Ultra on the front left of the plate carrier for target marking (Matbock pouch)
-Front admin pouch (Blueforcegear is what I'm using) with a Harris Dual KDU so you can control both radios without having to take them out, especially with a 163. Also have extra wiring, a Leatherman Carbon, and a Leatherman bit kit in that admin pouch.
I’m fucking hounding for a KDU but they are hard to find
@@TheGruntPerspective yeah they're not super expensive. Maybe S6 can order it for you guys. But, then again, if you can't get a second PTT connector, maybe not. I think it's like $300 ish depending on what Harris quotes.
Using ATAK in wet or cold conditions (gloves) is difficult since it's a touchscreen. A stylus helps. But I like having a separate KDU as a backup since it has physical buttons. Also works for the dudes who don't have an ATAK EUD.
Another nice admin thing to have is a little microfiber cloth to wipe your glasses. Some guys let it dangle but I stow it in the admin pouch. Cabelas makes a neoprene-cased camo one with a little plastic carabiner. It's about 2x2".
Also a big one for leaders operating at night: Sharpies. Classic, 1-ended regular tip. If you write on a Rite-in-the rain with those you can read it at night if you flip your NVGs up (disable auto-off which is a triple tap on 31s and crank the broghtness) and use the residual light coming out the ocular side. That way you don't have to use a red light and as long as you have night vision, you can read and take notes. You have to hold the notebook like 8 inches in front of your face though.
So no harm no foul if you prefer it sitting lower, but one thing I like to do with the shaw arc admin pouch /gen III PC combo is to use the two passthroughs next to the ID pouch velcro as molle to mount the pouch -- brings the admin pouch up even with the top of the PC and keeps it even more clear of your mags down below.
Excellent video as always!
This is as high as I can mount it on this carrier
Another great video! Your stuff is probably the best most real world info online.
Thanks for watching man!
Absolutely love these practical kit videos, man, keep it up. Not just some flat range person talking.
Thanks for watching!
I’m just glad some dudes still get it. You need more than 3 mags for anything serious. Good content mate
I’m glad I’m not the only one
I'm a civilian and when I first got into training I thought 3 was a low amount also, glad to hear it from someone that has served.
@@tacticalnewbe5745 I honestly push dudes for at least 8. I generally carry around 10. 6 mags is cool for training but ammo goes fast irl. The 6 mag doctrine is hot garbage. Just remember that ammo is not heavy, you might just need to get stronger.
@@mr.dinder9287 true that, appreciate the advice.
Some good solid and practical knowledge and ideas...
Thanks for watching!
Good breakdown man. Appreciate ya taking the time to make this vid on kit.
Thanks for watching!
Best gear channel and it’s not close. Thanks for staying combat focused and talking about the things that really come up in the field/down range.
Thanks for watching!
Excellent video
Thanks for watching!
Good video, and you are right to get up on the soap box, if your living the life you need to consider what you have, what example your setting, and what happens when you are going hands on because the enemy close enough to touch everyone’s belt buckles. Great set up to. My preference is to throw the spirits thing 2 over a slicked out plate carrier because it provides various options, same preference (LBV for PL time) I had all 3 platoons I was lucky enough to be a Platoon Leader for. My squad leader kit was more indicative of the times (early to mid GWAT) molle’d directly to the body armor. Love the channel, love the meticulous thought process you use for what your you going to the field with and what your going to war with.
Thanks for watching!
Very valuable information. Your emphasis on carrying what you need to conduct the mission assigned to you is so important. so many people put lots of stuff outside of their role into their kit, like people having insane amounts of admin equipment when they really only need a small notebook and a sector of fire card or they carry an entire pouch full of radio accessories when they don't even have a radio. Mission dictates equipment, too many people both civilians and in the service try and carry equipment for 5 missions when they only have 1 mission.
Thanks for watching!
@@TheGruntPerspective thanks for posting! Can't wait for the next video!
Love your post's,Godbless.
Thanks for watching!
"Every Marine a rifleman," Gunny...
I personally prefer: Every marine should have the capability to be a rifleman
Or every marine basically trained. Not every marine can be a riflemen. Even some riflemen I had under me shouldn’t have been.
Solid complete and relevant - huge thank you! I noticed you got a pistol on your belt now, maybe an updated video soon?
In all honesty it’s on there for a grenade launcher holster, but yes, belt update soon hopefully
This is epic
Thanks for watching!
Thanks man. I was recently promoted to major and realize I'm basically a slap dick carrying minimal crap like I'm in DEV Group. I'm going to ask the boys what kind of stuff would be useful to have more of and start carrying it.
Would love a TMK breakdown for what yall use!
TMK?
Awesome video! What's the multicam MOLLE you wrapped the Shaw RDS pouch with? I'm running into the exact same issue you described with having to pull documents out of that thing
That's the ARC Placard - he just has the RDS and mags both inside the placard.
I assume you making this video means you made it to staff sergeant and if so congratulations
Correct, thank you
semper fi
have you made a video on how you marines sleep out in the woods. a sleep system i guess lol cold and summer
I have not, but spiritus systems has an awesome series of videos on that
One thing I always hated was seeing plt sgt’s or company level “leaders” who couldn’t lead a flight of elephant shit. Especially when you get “leaders” from outside the 03 field in charge of you.
Super goofy
Excellent video and opinions as always. Consider adding links to the stuff you talk about in the videos.
I love you videos. Im hoping that maybe you do some videos on some other pieces of gear like the usmc GEN 2 Flak. Im looking for a decent way to make that thing work well for me
The simplest things you can do to make it better is 550 the top of the plate bags to make stocking easier, properly size the carrier to have the top at the nape of your neck w/ bottom right over your belly button, if possibpe change out the cummerbunds, and to really get good you'll have to buy some of your own gear unfortunately
I second what he said
Shaw concepts has a video that is very practical for making the gen 2 suck less.
You should throw some tape on the radio buttons if youre avoiding glint. Shiny.
Those are not real radios, the real ones aren’t like thatb
The more I learn about TLs and whatnot, the more they sound like really exhausted big brothers and mothers put together
While yeah, medics maybe the grunt mums, TLs and the like are the people I can imagine triple checking a person's bag and still packing almost the same stuff on top of their own stuff "just in case"
Its like moms with their pocket dimension handbags with everything from a map of the town, 10 year old toys in a ziploc, assorted snacks and sensitive papers
TLs role is relatively easy in the 03 community, even a good one. This is more so a squad/section leader and a plt Sgt set up. I would go as far as saying his set up primarily fits a plt Sgt since it’s closely identical to my kit. You’re never gonna see a TL besides maybe an APL with a 152.
@@joshuaroun14 Ah I see, so they're the ones that get to play big brother-naggy mother lol
Being a team leader is a blast, but yeah you do have check and re check a lot
Great video as always, unrelated question do you think the Shaw concepts cumbun will work with a JPC? I'm in the process of trying to upgrade mine to be a bit more structural.
I think so, as long as it’s got molle on the back you can tie it on with shock cord
@@TheGruntPerspective i checked, it does. The way the tubes are recessed a bit is critical for me and it'll fit my SOP perfectly and i think it looks like a better option than the AXL cumbun. Thanks gunny.
@@dogevanzandt2889I’ve had both, the tubes are recessed the same amount on both the Shaw and AXL. At that point it’s really just personal preference.
@@johnglomba2659 which do you prefer?
Good morning mister Grunt Perspective, do you ever remove the back panel from plate carrier or are you keeping it always on, even with a ruck? Good video as always.
It always stays attached, you just need a good frame, check out the TT MALICE frame
@@TheGruntPerspectivebased pack
Weight distribution. I run mine slick because of that. The only thing that sits in the front is the mystery cinch to bring all of my pack higher and tighter to my body. Other than that, everything goes the belt. Most guys bring everything up on pc, which is fine. Too many, "you gotta have's" to fill space but then the question is why? If a Marines trains everything on a built cool, so be it. Ive seen guys train with hitchhiker packs where the load sits high in the back. Preference is key. Some guys see relestate on PC, like it needed to be address.
The big thing about the shaw concepts now is everyone is trying to figure out what to do with all of the different functions the plate carrior to do. You cant set a standard on something thats design to accomadate a mission set.
Thanks for watching!
Do a grunt perspective on the item that you have but the formats of them. Idk what I don’t know till you show it but to someone not me might ask.
How do you fit that entire map in that pouch?
How does the map stay dry?
What is in the admin pouch and when do I use them?
Stuff along those lines please
It could be a little field hacks video, I’ll see what I can do
Noob at radios, can you explain why you need the disco32 relocator and the tci mast? Is it for the QD fuction for mutiple antennas? If so can you just attach a attena straight to the disco32 for a civi use?
No, all they do is essentially take the antenna that would attach to the radio and move it somewhere more convenient for you
@@TheGruntPerspective so do you need both of them or just one? if i wanted to move a whip to the rear of the carrier as you did.
@@lungcanc3r666the disco 32 cable is just like and extension cord for the antenna. The TCI Mast is a little molle pouch that stabilizes to whatever you mount too. So yeah unless you have another way to stabilize it you’ll need one
@@TheGruntPerspective oh gotcha, disco has a pouch on their site. The mast kit comes with a cable on tbeir site which is what through me off. Thxs!
I know you said you werent doing a belt video but it looks a healthy bit different, can we expect a new video soonish?
Yes sir it’ll be soon hopefully
How did you get the cuts for the mag pouch flaps scissors or laser cut?
Its the SPUD pouch from Spiritus systems, and its laser cut.
It’s made that way, spiritus systems spud pouch
@@TheGruntPerspective ahh ok cool thanks I've seen a video on someone making their own cuts but I can't find it they used scissors but I've only been able to find those ones from spiritus systems
if you were in combat wouldnt you want more than 6 mags?
or you have them on your belt idk
Yes of course. 6-8 on the body is standard, doesn’t mean I don’t have more in my pack
You will never be important enough as a TL to need two radios.
Correct
I've seen some people run a dump pouch on their PC cummerbunds. What are your thoughts on this?
On the cumberbunds? Super goofy. Unless you’re not wearing a belt I guess
@@TheGruntPerspective I've also seen some people run two dump pouches. Do you think something like that would be useful, or more unnecessary?
@@andrewbunner3591 I don’t even use 1 dump pouch, I can’t imagine what you would need 2 for
@@TheGruntPerspective thanks for the info!
Usually dump on the pc is for SSE and dump on the belt is for mags and jackets. Second dump is usually for water, explonsives. It can work.. I tried it couple of times, didint like it.. some people swear by it… i woulsnt recomemd it for infrantry, maybe cqb or admin…
Civvie here. Is your Marine leadership ok with you having multicam?
Yes
It varies by unit, but over the last 5-10 years there has been a major cultural shift when it comes to personal gear. The guys in charge are realizing that there is better gear out there than just what is issued.
At the same time, Shaw does make Coyote flavored gear
how many magazine could you carry....if ammo capacity was priority? how would your loadout setup be? I wonder if you could make a video on that
No less than 6 (5 on kit + 1 in gun) & 1 frag, but you should be carry up to 14 & 2 frags (most will be in a ruck), you should have the ability to hunp 60mm mortars and or MG ammo boxes
I can carry up to 9 on me, I usually don’t though. Then at least another combat load in my ruck.
Army 6 mags + 1 in rifle.
Another 7 in the ruck.
If ammo is a priority (lets say anticipating heavy heavy contact) then id say 10 on you (6 on pc + 4 on belt) + 10 ish in the ruck.
What’s the name of that plate carrier ?
Marine Corps PC Gen 3
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Dog that looks back breaking
Just the way she goes, sometimes.
Not really, and what could I really give up off it? Remember I’m a infantryman, I need ammo and grenades and everything on here
Strong back
Shouldering a rifle with the new plate carriers sucks sorry for you guys.
I still contend that the eagle SPC was the best military issued plate carrier ever. Marine Corps did very well with those things.
It’s better like this
@@TheGruntPerspective Did you tuck in the right side to open up space for the stock?
@@bluespy4 I tucked in both sides
Why did my previous comment get removed
Idk I don’t have any comments restrictions and haven’t deleted any comments
@@TheGruntPerspective Wierd
@@CatholicGunGuy youtube does some weird stuff like that nowadays.
can we get an updated belt kit setup?
Working on it