Infantryman Plate Carrier Setup Update: USMC Gen 3

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  • @localskinwalker
    @localskinwalker Рік тому +39

    I’ve always been a fan of having a “something pouch”. Sooner or later I’d always find myself carrying something I didn’t bring like comms, ordinance or whatever. Great content 🤙

  • @pantera29palms
    @pantera29palms 3 місяці тому +10

    Damn dude, you got it good! Back in ‘03 we were still rocking desert storm and Vietnam gear!

  • @xusmico187
    @xusmico187 Рік тому +8

    classic USMC one size fits all. remindeds me of the helmet pad fight USMC had with oregon areo and sling harness

  • @JackTagar
    @JackTagar Рік тому +7

    For TGP and anyone else with a PC Gen 3, Shaw Concepts and a channel named Local Skinwalker did videos on how to improve the ergonomics of the base carrier so it's not quite so much of a POS. Of course, keep your specific SOPs in mind and do what your rank can handle.

  • @charlesl5226
    @charlesl5226 Рік тому +6

    Good shit man keep it up. The comment “gear quire” comes to mind seeing as I was the same way and got this yelled at me all the time. Would of been really nice having videos like this when I was still in. Hopefully your reaching the younger guys out there and showing them it’s ok to get new shit and think it out.

    • @TheGruntPerspective
      @TheGruntPerspective  Рік тому +4

      You don’t have to be special forces to have nice gear. If you have the money and want to invest it, why not?

  • @ayo_itz_ace
    @ayo_itz_ace Рік тому +20

    Consider the “Tactical Tailor Double Mag Pouch Medical insert” for your IFAK. I run it on my carrier as a auxiliary medical kit to my primary, which is belt mounted… “Semper Gumby”

  • @quintus_rex7381
    @quintus_rex7381 8 місяців тому +3

    A useful pouch I found while bulding my PC is the Helikon tex double horizontal pouch
    (It’s basically designed to be back dangler pouch for 2 emergency mags)
    What I did is I put it in the front instead of the back panel, I attached it to the Velcro of the plate, not the Velcro of the front placard.
    I use it for TQ so It allows me to take 2 TQ that i can take the same way from left or right while the TQ’s are well protected from environment and the pouch is very easy to open with one hand.
    Just have a look and make your personal opinion but from my pov it’s win-win
    Pouch is a little bit hard at the beginning but it’s pretty much like leather shoes, it get the proper shape with a little bit of time and it ends up being comfortable.

  • @EliteElk221
    @EliteElk221 Рік тому +1

    Great video, always good to hear from active concentional infantry guys. Very useful knowledge to the average citizen, huge fan of how many mags you have!

  • @Waterfluffalo
    @Waterfluffalo Рік тому +4

    Another great video. You do a great job thinking about your kit as a whole, how one thing affects another and explaining your thought process through it. I learn something new with each video and looking forward to the next.

  • @deadextra
    @deadextra 8 місяців тому +5

    I always used to hate water bladders on my plates since the weight was distributed so low, which gets worse the more I drink from it. The solution I came up with was to take a ditty bag and extend the molle so it wouldn't flop so much and I gave it elastic hose ports on the sides. I put the pouch up high on my shoulders where I want the weight. I use a pladypus lumbar pouch in it which is super durable. It holds around two liters, maybe a bit more. It sits inside my MALICE frame just fine, even when full.

    • @TheGruntPerspective
      @TheGruntPerspective  8 місяців тому +2

      I’m curious about this, if you have pictures send them to me on instagram?

    • @deadextra
      @deadextra 8 місяців тому +2

      @TheGruntPerspective I'm happy to send pictures, but I don't use instagram.

    • @deadextra
      @deadextra 8 місяців тому +4

      @TheGruntPerspective here, I put pics on Google drive drive.google.com/drive/folders/16C9I0-qZm2Y4OotoXKLQY9Jnpv9Hd1Wf

    • @deadextra
      @deadextra 8 місяців тому +6

      @@TheGruntPerspective youtube won't let me post a link, but I put a quick video showing the pouch up on my channel.

    • @Wh1stle_03
      @Wh1stle_03 8 місяців тому +4

      @@deadextraMax respect for taking the time to actually make and upload a quick video instead of just letting this comment thread die.

  • @Liionhawt
    @Liionhawt Рік тому +6

    Make a video with you in the gear. Curious to see how everything works together with the belt and suspenders in conjunction with the plate carrier.

  • @kniter
    @kniter Рік тому +3

    Great video. I personally prefer the spud pouches as my front mag setup. Can easily extended from 3x1 to 3x2 or even 3x3. Can take most equipment and I find reindexing with them is super easy.

    • @ironteacup2569
      @ironteacup2569 Рік тому +3

      That is my favorite part about the spud. 2-3mags… smokes… not a problem… it fits it all

    • @jhutch1470
      @jhutch1470 Рік тому +3

      I love packing my spud.
      No, wait........what?

    • @TheGruntPerspective
      @TheGruntPerspective  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for watching!

  • @twinarrowssurvival.2.065
    @twinarrowssurvival.2.065 Рік тому +4

    Solid knowledge transfer brother...

  • @kool4209
    @kool4209 Місяць тому +4

    Thank you!! lol been sayin for years "Id rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it". Ill workout more to handle the extra 120 rounds lol

    • @thodorisevangelakos
      @thodorisevangelakos 27 днів тому +1

      I mean bullets and water is the one thing I won't take "light is right" as seriously for

  • @brianreeves9404
    @brianreeves9404 Рік тому +2

    Great video. I do think about what the next war will be, just beyond the training exercises that we have been doing for the past 8 years even before GWOT “concluded”. The war in Ukraine shows something of what it can look like with a near peer war, what we should carry, what technology will be turned against us, how adaptable we should be. I came in when buttpacks were still a huge deal and molle was just starting to get issued to limited units; so when I say I hate the damn thing I mean it, however I’m already looking at putting one on my belt/H harness due to the perceived need.

  • @Pelonp55
    @Pelonp55 3 місяці тому

    8:28 I paused and said other stuff verbatim and I couldn’t stop laughing, made my day. Good vid, very informational

  • @kuyakonggaming
    @kuyakonggaming 5 місяців тому +5

    I like your videos and wish you would do a little B-roll to show how it looks when its on you. sensor your face for OPSEC of course. but its a good way to judge how it sits based on your body type

    • @TheGruntPerspective
      @TheGruntPerspective  5 місяців тому +5

      I do a lot of that stuff on my instagram, but you’re right

    • @kuyakonggaming
      @kuyakonggaming 5 місяців тому

      @@TheGruntPerspective I’ll be sure to follow!

  • @JohnJones-op8uf
    @JohnJones-op8uf 10 місяців тому +3

    Awesome vid. Thank you

  • @andrewcliffe4006
    @andrewcliffe4006 8 місяців тому +4

    How would you recommend implementing canteens in your plate carrier/belt setup? Or would you just have them on your pack that you would be carrying? Always want to have something other than a camelbak on my person for water as we all know how that would go if a camelbak was your only source of water. Love the knowledge you put out. Thanks!

    • @TheGruntPerspective
      @TheGruntPerspective  8 місяців тому +3

      For me they would have to go on the belt, thanks for watching!

  • @rolandomaldonado8309
    @rolandomaldonado8309 Рік тому +3

    I was wondering how you keep your hydration hose short, but then I saw the loops you tied. I might try that trick.

  • @Signal_Flare
    @Signal_Flare Рік тому +3

    I used a similar layout on a deployment I just got back from. I spent a lot of time in a JLTV, so I kept my belt setup thin. The front of my pc has the same exact Shaw Concepts ARC Placard with quad insert and the BFG elastic triple mag pouch. Having a TQ mounted on the bottom of the placard was a great way to have a TQ accessible with either hand while also freeing up space on the rest of the pc for other stuff. My unit still uses the Gen2 pc (which works great for what it is) but I used the Shaw Concepts ARC V2 carrier instead. I agree with all of the other points you brought up here, great video overall. Have you tried any of the BFG med pouches? I've been testing them all year and I'm still trying to decide between one of them or the newer issued IFAK.

    • @TheGruntPerspective
      @TheGruntPerspective  Рік тому +1

      I’ve never used one, but I’ve seen a lot of them torn unfortunately

  • @americashypeman
    @americashypeman Рік тому +4

    This is a really informative video! How many chest seals do you carry? Where do you carry them?
    I can’t help but wonder about the wisdom of putting the chest seal on the torso and on the outside of armor, given that the chances that it might be damaged in the event that you are hit in the torso are increased when it is located there, thus rendering it potentially useless, just when you need it most?

    • @TheGruntPerspective
      @TheGruntPerspective  Рік тому +5

      I have 2 on my plate carrier and 2 in my belt. And yeah that’s always a possibility but there’s really nothing you can do about that short of putting them behind your sapi plates. That’s why I carry multiple.

  • @pufthedragonCCS
    @pufthedragonCCS Рік тому +5

    One of the things that has always bothered me is that I can never find a good place to put a map, lol.

  • @billcostanzo6112
    @billcostanzo6112 Рік тому +2

    Where can we buy that ranging device? Another great video!

  • @RobotPanda15
    @RobotPanda15 Рік тому +2

    I always had an issue with traditional admin pouches like that ferro one where its either getting in the way of my mags or my mags are getting in the way of it. Shaw makes one thats tapered at the bottom so you have a clean draw for your mags that still has a lot of space inside even for an ATAK device and some general admin stuff.

    • @TheGruntPerspective
      @TheGruntPerspective  Рік тому +1

      This one is very similar to the Shaw pouch, definitely not large enough to put an ATAK setup in though

  • @josephbrown-ut9ty
    @josephbrown-ut9ty Рік тому +5

    Im an Older Gen (86-91) Combat Engr . Which we did most of our stuff mounted and not much walking, but when we did walk , it sucked. We didnt run PCs back then in my unit or any of that like yall do now. But , i always tried to carry an infantry mans ammo or at least mag loadout with the thought of I am my own resupply mentality. One thing ive always been hesatent about on PCs is the fact most of your mags are up front in harms way. a few hits to your torso and what ever mags got hit would be toast , and ive never heard anyone talk about that , im courious on your thoughts to this.

    • @TheGruntPerspective
      @TheGruntPerspective  Рік тому +4

      You can’t plan for everything, sometimes thing happen unfortunately

    • @coryhoggatt7691
      @coryhoggatt7691 11 місяців тому +4

      Mags wrecked but you’re still alive is a good day. Your buddies are carrying plenty more mags.

    • @travelingspartan2035
      @travelingspartan2035 8 місяців тому

      Having a mag anywhere on your body puts it in harm's way; placing them lower and to the side with an LBV or whatever isn't really any better, but at least now there's a plate behind it so the offending projectile doesn't smoke your ammo AND you.

  • @JackTagar
    @JackTagar Рік тому +3

    Hey TGP, you mentioned retooling your plate carrier loadouts due to current events. What's your take on how armored you should be? I.e. the military view (hard armor over soft armor with nearly full torso coverage), just hard armor to include side plates, just front and back plates, or some kind of mix?

    • @TheGruntPerspective
      @TheGruntPerspective  Рік тому +5

      If I could have what I wanted, it would be front and back plates, and soft armor on the sides as standard, to save some weight. In urban or built up areas I’d probably opt for side plates as well

    • @TheGruntPerspective
      @TheGruntPerspective  Рік тому +5

      Depending on what you’re trying to do, retry common practice it slick armor. We wear chest rigs or belt kits, with our plates in our pack. When enemy threat becomes more probable or likely, armor goes on and chest rig goes over the top

  • @KrKr_FL
    @KrKr_FL Рік тому +2

    Great info bro. Thnx. What brand face paint?

  • @CallSignGino
    @CallSignGino Рік тому +4

    Love your content brother. Keep it up. 0311

  • @paradisewithmoto4196
    @paradisewithmoto4196 11 місяців тому +1

    Awesome video, what IFAK pouch is placed on your cummerbund?

    • @TheGruntPerspective
      @TheGruntPerspective  11 місяців тому

      In this video it’s a HSGI bleeder blowout kit, I’m now using a spiritus systems spud pouch though, I didn’t like how low the pouch sit and it was digging into my side

  • @molicab853
    @molicab853 6 місяців тому +6

    can you make a video on set up for us admin marines?

    • @TheGruntPerspective
      @TheGruntPerspective  5 місяців тому +5

      If you’re being serious and you want to see a setup for yourself as a provisional infantryman, this would be a good kit to emulate

  • @trippskits2503
    @trippskits2503 Рік тому +3

    For Marines who have to use the issued chungus ifak, where do you recommend placing that? Or are there any pouches with better size/form factor to stuff the contents into?

    • @mr.stotruppen8724
      @mr.stotruppen8724 Рік тому +4

      You talking about the giant clamshell with the size XL everything innards and wet burn dressing?
      I got issued one of those in the army, oddly enough. Gutted it for contents and switched to a tear-away pouch. The stock one is too big to stay fixed to your body like that.

    • @trippskits2503
      @trippskits2503 Рік тому +1

      @mr.stotruppen8724 exactly. we still have to have the contents so i'm looking for a pouch that will do the trick

    • @mr.stotruppen8724
      @mr.stotruppen8724 Рік тому +2

      Coyote Tactical STOMP fit everything fine for the most part.

    • @TheGruntPerspective
      @TheGruntPerspective  Рік тому +2

      I’d recommend belt use for guys who have to use that

  • @jc1840
    @jc1840 Рік тому +1

    Ever thought about that one time use sealable IFAK that fits behind your plate? Saw it on another UA-cam vid

    • @TheGruntPerspective
      @TheGruntPerspective  Рік тому +1

      Yeah those are pretty cool. I don’t think they would work well with this plate carrier though because of the zipper closure. And also, that would need to be a unit SOP. If my med kit is not immediately visible to a guy trying to treat me then that would be a problem. Definitely cool though, and cuts down on a lot of space. The only thing about those is once you pull that thing out there’s no getting it back in

    • @coryhoggatt7691
      @coryhoggatt7691 11 місяців тому

      The USMC issue IFAK is a great design. It incorporates boo boo gear, which makes it too big to fit behind a plate carrier, but keeps that stuff handy when you’re patching up cuts and blisters.

  • @3566remi
    @3566remi Рік тому +2

    Do you think that a dump pouch is necessary for retaining mags when you don’t have kydex inserts?

    • @TheGruntPerspective
      @TheGruntPerspective  Рік тому +1

      No I don’t, as long as you have mag pouches that work well with indexing

  • @minutemancorner4434
    @minutemancorner4434 Рік тому +4

    Where does one find that ranging device?

  • @recon1986
    @recon1986 10 місяців тому +4

    You should get yourself a crye JPC 2.0 man.

    • @TheGruntPerspective
      @TheGruntPerspective  10 місяців тому +19

      I can’t use my own plate carrier, but if I could I would get a AVS for the load carrying capability

    • @recon1986
      @recon1986 10 місяців тому +1

      That's nonsense. I was able to use my own plate carrier when I was with 3rd recon but I guess that's the difference between 0311 and 0321

    • @Grunt-Barra
      @Grunt-Barra 8 місяців тому

      I got a Crye JPC 1.0, thinking about switching over to a Beez Combat Systems plate carrier for the quick release and a billion camo options with laser cut now that I'm out, they even have M81 woodland -11C

    • @gavinvandevenne8437
      @gavinvandevenne8437 5 місяців тому

      @@Grunt-Barra Pretty sure you can mod a JPC to have quick release

    • @Grunt-Barra
      @Grunt-Barra 5 місяців тому

      @gavinvandevenne8437 Yeah at a pretty high cost for cummerbunds with a brand roc or tube release, you're looking at $80-100 extra for something decent before taxes and shipping. I did buy the BCS plate carrier and got the rigid inserts and the pads. It kicks ass.

  • @pyeitme508
    @pyeitme508 Рік тому +2

    Wow

  • @HighReady_Gaming
    @HighReady_Gaming Рік тому +2

    What elastic inserts did you put in the Shaw side buckets?

  • @HonorJackson247
    @HonorJackson247 Рік тому +2

    The issue with this PC is that a better version already exists and is in the supply system… the Crye AVS.

    • @TheGruntPerspective
      @TheGruntPerspective  Рік тому +2

      Now that is a nice plate carrier. The load bearing capability is exactly what conventional infantry guys need

  • @paulhester1904
    @paulhester1904 11 місяців тому +2

    With so much on the belt, do your pants tend to slide down? From a non grunt.

  • @KernelKrunch663
    @KernelKrunch663 Рік тому +2

    Do you carry all this in your infrantryman field pack?

    • @TheGruntPerspective
      @TheGruntPerspective  Рік тому

      No I’d be wearing this

    • @womplad9864
      @womplad9864 11 місяців тому

      @@TheGruntPerspective Would you be wearing this while rucking? I thought you rucked with the chest rig then switched to this when you could

  • @markshaw8692
    @markshaw8692 11 місяців тому +3

    How about you put gear on and show us how gear works together. Also are you carrying a pistol ever?

    • @TheGruntPerspective
      @TheGruntPerspective  10 місяців тому +1

      It’s on my instagram page actually, and no almost never

  • @jeffroW0331
    @jeffroW0331 Рік тому +1

    No plates for me😁
    Semper Fi

  • @crumply5959
    @crumply5959 Рік тому +3

    Since my job doesnt require me to carry a pistol, i choose to opt out on a battle belt. I instead have a bds fanny pack around my waist for my ifak and carry all the rest of my gear on my flak and assualt pack.

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  • @garywheble4534
    @garywheble4534 10 місяців тому +2

    I was in the British army Artillery one of theo units I was in we always did Infantry exercises in my time alot of Artillery did we also did more built up area combat . This was because of Northan Ireland as you know the British army is small it always has been , so they divided up the manpower the Infantry worked in the countryside maxsermising there Infantry skills the Artillery concentrated on built up areas towns city's even so on big riots Infantry also supported the Artillery in the built up areas , Iam saying this so you understand in my day the Artillery was closer to the Idea of a soldier being a Infantry man first of all . In my unit all personal on there webbing on the right behind the ammo pouch and waterborne had a large pouch made by our Taylor or Q store tech to hold eather two belts of 150 linked ammo or two 200 belts for the GPMG or four magazines for the LMG , it was deliberately placed on the right so when you were useing your rifle the pouch was easy access for a person to open the pouch grab the ammo without you having to move your rifle out of the aiming position . We also carried this further to our burgens the ones we used looked alot like the old Alice stile the two pouches on both sides were use for as you look from the front of tha burgen on the left food and water on the right ammo and Ordinance sothis c.ouldl mean det cord and safty fuse and primers two hundred yards of D10 electrick cable used on field phones two claymores two 38 mm morter rounds and a field battery and electric ignition switch a pear of crimping pliers and connectors and also 8 pounds of PE 4 your thinking whooow that alot of wieght on one side you forgot the water bottles in the left pouch these would in normal circumstance would be used last or as the ammo was depleted on the right also as a section comander you were responserble for the distribution of the store's so the radio operator would not normaly set up claymores so after the scouts had set some and been used the claymores would be reorganised same for the PE4 we also ran colection bags to collect the links when the GPMG fired so at the end of the day while in a larger we could reuse the links with the boxed ammo we carried at the time we used the L1A1

    • @TheGruntPerspective
      @TheGruntPerspective  10 місяців тому

      Thanks for watching! I always love hearing how other military’s do things

  • @coryhoggatt7691
    @coryhoggatt7691 11 місяців тому +4

    Hope you don’t mind some constructive criticism, from a Marine of over 40 years who’s carried a lot of gear in training and in combat.
    Bottom line, you’re carrying way too much stuff. You should echelon your gear by priority.
    Fighting load: ammo, couple power bars, maybe a liter of water.
    Existence load: day pack with food, more water, bit more ammo and all the other sundries
    Sustainment load: your ruck, with warming layers,etc
    You never get separated from your fighting load. You should rarely get separated from your sustainment load. Your ruck is usually somewhere in the rear and you might not see it for a few days.
    Resupply these days is a lot more efficient. You don’t need days and days of consumable unless you’re getting dropped into an OP for days.
    Remember your buddies are carrying a lot of gear that can resupply you.
    I didn’t see a ready mag in either video. They must still be teaching you reload from one mag in a place you can get to it instantly, and you replace that when you’ve got a few seconds. Nobody reloads out of a pouch or plate carrier.
    Last thing. Watched the SYSCOM video on the Gen III plate carrier. It’s not a “one size fits all” system at all. Your meant to use the parts you need for your job. No one should be using the whole thing.

    • @TheGruntPerspective
      @TheGruntPerspective  11 місяців тому +32

      Respectfully, the next major war marines fight in will not be anything like the war you fought in. Again, not trying to offend you. But the war in the Middle East was not a conventional war, we were fighting an enemy that had nowhere near the same capabilities as us. Thus we could afford to carry less stuff because resupplies of food, water, and ammunition were almost guaranteed. In the future we will be fighting an enemy that has very similar to, if not, the same capabilities as we do. Among other things, this requires every infantryman to become more self sufficient. That means more water, ammo, food, weapons maintenance equipment on your person, etc. While it may seem excessive, you could look to the conventional war taking place in Ukraine. Ukrainian and Russian troops are carrying massive amounts of gear on their body, most of them using a fully loaded belt kit, as well as a fully loaded plate carrier. Upwards of 10-12 rifle magazines and grenades galore.
      I’m not trying to make my kit for the marine corps past experiences, that would be ignorant. I’m trying to do my best to look into the unsure future and anticipate what I’ll need.
      Thank you for watching, and thank you for your service.

    • @dogevanzandt2889
      @dogevanzandt2889 11 місяців тому +11

      ​@@TheGruntPerspectivei fought in the last war and i 100% agree with you, this bothered me even when i was in. I deployed as infantry and as an ANGLICO. Ive said this to you before but i am so sick of the hypebeast guys who have never gunned a day in their lives and insist on running minimalist and with shit on their backs. You're on the right track brother.

    • @Sora-o
      @Sora-o 11 місяців тому +2

      @@TheGruntPerspectivewho do you think the US is going at war against that has similar military capabilities?

    • @TheGruntPerspective
      @TheGruntPerspective  11 місяців тому +8

      @@Sora-o you know exactly who I’m talking about

    • @aquila3958
      @aquila3958 11 місяців тому

      Why would you not reload from a pouch on your plate carrier or belt? Where else would the mag be in?

  • @deadeye5155
    @deadeye5155 Рік тому +6

    Dump pouches suck

    • @TheGruntPerspective
      @TheGruntPerspective  Рік тому +5

      Me and all my homies hate dump pouches

    • @Anthony-ob5ih
      @Anthony-ob5ih Рік тому +1

      ​@@TheGruntPerspectivewhy the dump pouch hate im personally a fan id get so much anxiety not having it. Ik some pouches can accommodate reinserting but not all of them

    • @personalaccount8914
      @personalaccount8914 11 місяців тому

      @@TheGruntPerspective Why?

    • @larshenrik8900
      @larshenrik8900 9 місяців тому

      Why?

    • @travelingspartan2035
      @travelingspartan2035 8 місяців тому

      Dump pouches fuck with no downsides, what are you smoking

  • @andyguerrero5186
    @andyguerrero5186 8 місяців тому +6

    Ounces equals pain bro. You have ALOT off stuff on there

    • @TheGruntPerspective
      @TheGruntPerspective  8 місяців тому +43

      Ammo, admin equipment, grenades, medical supplies, and water. Yeah that’s clearly way to much shit that I don’t need at all

    • @travelingspartan2035
      @travelingspartan2035 8 місяців тому +36

      This is all just stuff the modern infantryman needs. You wanna fight a war, you're gonna have to carry a lot of shit. Can only shave off so much. Do cardio, don't skip leg day.

    • @bigwormsshooter8154
      @bigwormsshooter8154 6 місяців тому +22

      This is a real life set up, not a Reddit set up

    • @thodorisevangelakos
      @thodorisevangelakos 27 днів тому

      ​@@TheGruntPerspectivejust drink 50L of water beforehand and ditch the hydration, Jesus you grunts never learn

    • @TheGruntPerspective
      @TheGruntPerspective  27 днів тому

      @@thodorisevangelakos
      if I carry less water=less weight
      Less weight=less exertion
      Less exertion=less sweat
      Less sweat=need less water
      BIG BRAIN TIME

  • @Queensryche230
    @Queensryche230 Рік тому +2

    Who makes that bladder?

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