Why This Prototype Combat Rig Could Help Army Soldiers Fight A Possible War With China | Loadout
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- A United States Army officer shares a modified combat rig that could offer service members a more optimized alternative to the traditional TAPS, or tactical assault panel system. In November, we spoke with 1st Lt. Zachary Calderone of the 25th Infantry Division during the Army's Joint Pacific Multinational Readiness Center, or JPMRC, training exercise in Hawaii. JPMRC is a large-scale 10-day training exercise where the US Army, along with international partners, utilizes realistic combat scenarios that prepare soldiers for battle with peer adversaries like China.
Based in Oahu, the 25th Infantry Division typically trains for combat in jungle environments. On this day, Calderone's platoon was operating in the P'hakuloa Training Area on the island of Hawai'i. While the tactical assault panel system is one of the Army's standard combat rigs, Calderone was tasked by his unit to test out a prototype optimized for jungle warfare.
Calderone breaks down the differences between what he calls the "jungle rig" and the standard TAPS rig, pointing out how the new rig offers superior adjustability and breathability.
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Army Jungle Soldier Reveals Combat Rig That Could Replace TAPS
Ok back to Vietnam i got it
I hope they are prepared for the mosquitoes, those things are starting to become a menace ever since the ridiculous amount of rainfall.
Possibly if the theater expands to include the East Sea/Southeast Asia Sea/South China Sea but this time Vietnam will very likely be apart of the US Allies
Would be extremely interesting and kinda funny
@@DaFlyingMarMar the enemy of my enemy is my friend... sometimes
Lmao beat me to it
I was going to say looks exactly like my old "H" harness.
That LT is a natural Guntuber
Ofc you would know Dadmin
Funny this guy is getting fame for something we all do in our basements 😂
Him to his Soldiers. “Shave”
Was that balaclava?.. Must have been my imagination...
Is admin recruiting to build his guntuber battalion?
What's old is new again
So happy they are coming back with this. I was in the era of plate carriers and embrace the sweat and weight. I was always drawn to this system and never understood why they went away with it.
@@johnkorn1810because it's crap and most hate it.
@@Hinman_9124 shoot my unit enjoyed training with this setup when we was in Australia training. It beat the hell out of wearing plates lol.
@@johnkorn1810 guess that our differences, I still remember Webb gear from 2001 when I went in and as Infantry it sucks balls. Its just as bad as the stupid dapps shoulder pads they tried to make us wear then the combat diaper.
my thoughts exactly. word for word.
Ah yes. "Business Insider" = 99% military videos. Oh wait.....
“The goal is not a successful war.”
It's not 99% military videos. Go to their channel and you'll see some but there's other stuff than that.
more like Military Insider
@@chronicandironic8701a lot of what they post isn’t military related, it’s just that it is by far the most successful content they post
That's called an algorithm my guy.
The LT is showing what is functionally identical to the Load Bearing Equipment I wore in 1986. And predated my enlistment to the Vietnam war.
Yep... Old school LBE... I picked up one for outdoor activities now that I'm civilian. Good piece of equipment.
Ya but this costs more so that means it's better
But better
Military Industrial Complex printing more money apparently and charging $$$$$$$$$
@@danielconquer909 gotta keep the grift going
I was rocking this in the British army. Came to the US Army, and was called “weird.”
Now I’m laughing.
You creeps are the world’s greatest threat.. 👎🇺🇸👎
Signed n American
American…..ha
Same as Australia, this dude thinks he just invented the wheel.
This guy invented a new solution for a solution already existed for more than a century lol
Military webbing was an American invention and America saved Europe twice for world wars. A simple “thanks” would suffice. Of course….You can teach your children all the lies you want but the real world has facts they will have to deal with which will undoubtedly make you look myopic later.
Old style web gear is new again.
As a Vietnam era vet, this makes so much more sense to me than the "attach everything to the plate carrier" school. Reminds me of the Alice gear, but better. Alice didn't allow easy transfer of the load to the hips for approach marches, or getting your shoulder harness (with attached compass/bandage carriers) out of the way when shouldering your ruck. I also like the way he positioned his belt pouches on his hips, allowing him to go prone without grinding his mags into his chest, while also lowering his profile.
There's more modern and better made rigs. I've found a mix of belt kit and a chest rig make the best for a fighting load + sustainment. Body armor is nessasary in modern war, so well padded plate carriers with placard systems do fine
These whippersnappers don’t remember 2000 it worked wonders then still
It’s the same thing really. They just strapped a plate in the middle of the webbing and then put more straps on it. Everyone in here thinks they’re a genius for some reason…
We never stretched everything to the plate carrier whatever load out you set would clip over the plate carrier I never had anything directly connected to it
@johnkarcis5142 there was a mix the flc and taps are supposed to be used over the iotv but an actual plate carrier, not that turtle shell, you'll want to attach or use versatile placard systems. But even then you can add a belt rig, and many have for a long time, I do, even with a chest rig I have a sustainment belt
Missed an opportunity to play "Fortunate Son" when he first held up the rig.
As an old Jungle Soldier I’m going to be frank here. That is not a new rig. We called it web gear or LBE (Load Bearing Equipment). The contents might be somewhat newer in how the carried resources are manufactured but from what this shave-tail listed as his “new” equipment is EXACTLY the same as what we carried back in the day.
British Army Webbing...suitabke for soldiers in all environments
lol yes
Beat me to it.
Facts. I wear a British Harness with my MTP for airsoft and I will never go back to a plate carrier or chest rig..
I used to have one mess tin pouch then all the rest changed out to water bottle pouches better for link
PLCE has always been the gold standard for webbing kit. Plate carriers with everything mollied on are crap for weight distribution. Separate plate carrier and loading gear means you can drop kit to rest and still be armoured.
An evolution of the old Alice system from Vietnam
*m1956
a copy of the british battle belt system#?
i was thinking the same thing about the old alice gear
...but over complicated, with unnecessary additional straps, and inferior velcro closures.
That new LBE looks like it has come full circle - what was issued in Vietnam and then modified to a lighter material that was resistant to rot and used in the 1980s to 1990s.
meanwhile in Singapore, we try to self-induce heat stroke
hahaha fr
Why?
@@ulusforever607 it’s a joke about how freaking hot it is over here and how the uniforms don’t help with the heat
@@ulusforever607 SG's SAF basically is the body armour school of thought, cover everything and anything with no serious adaptation to environment where average temp daily is ~32°C with high humidity.
And essentially just copy anything US do...
hell this webbing seems way better at load bearing than the new LBS belt, felt like an afterthought to the carrier
Back to pre-GWOT. A lot like our kit for jungle in the 90s, a combo of both issue and civilian. I took a lot from the old jungle warfare best practices and doctrine, as well as Hackworth’s Vietnam Primer (which was primarily tactics). We didn’t have the same access to quality, purpose-built kit from civilian sources like it is now (pretty sparse back in the day) issue didn’t cover everything. Wish we had gun belts back then, would have helped. Love to see this approach. Common sense, leveraging lessons learned, and not being afraid to move away from GWOT doctrine. Jungle is a different animal. This is good work, it’s going to save lives and influence the battle space.
WOW! Prototype of the ALICE system 60 years too late....
Our style British webbing?
goofy suspenders?
Love it
We used the same design in Vietnam war.
Yes it’s very traditional shape. Love it ❤️
It’s called a yoke.
Looks like modified TA50 with H harness suspenders. For jungle warfare look at the lessons learned from Vietnam and other conflicts instead of starting from scratch.
mhm.
the balance between function, agility, protection, and comfortability.
Has been tested and tried thru the ages.
one layer of protection (vest)
gear (belt/harness)
jacket(second layer protection)
the average life expectancy of a soldier in combat is 6 seconds.
the key is to find a way to increase their odds make it 9, 12, even 18 seconds.
Doesn't seem substantial.
but, now you have a fighter that survives 3 times longer.
I appreciate that he speaks like a HUMAN rather than a scripted interviewee. The Army would do better to pick people with personality rather than shove a camera in front of a human turned robot.
Congratulations, you reinvented the old ALICE h-harness setup.
Belt kit is the most versatile gear I own... And my favourite.
Tip: Leave the front of the belt area open so you can lie prone, really flat.
Wear a small emphasis: pack on your back for your snivel gear, food, extra water, entrenching tool, and extra mags in bandoleers on top of the pack.
On the belt: ammo, water, tourniquet and bandage, comms, knife, compass-just what you need to shoot, move, communicate, and survive (think E&E).
YOU NEED MORE MAGAZINES on the belt!!! You might want to open up some real estate on the belt for at least one more pouch. (Checkout "SAW Gunner" pouches.)
Buttpack is for more ammo and a poncho-a poncho thick enough so you can read maps/come under a light at night, batteries, and survival food.
Comfort tip: sleep in a hammock. Besides a sleep system that's off the ground away from ticks, in an emergency it becomes a litter.
Hammock - a must. Gotta get off the jungle floor. Good call.
And your point about ammo… agreed.
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Funny to see the 360 return to basically the old LBE load out of my time in the service during the 70s and early 80s!!
Cool to see the gear come full circle, LBE for MOST dismounted operations is good, fits well with plate carriers and back packs. I really like the feature to drop lower when you have a ruck on. Hopefully Big Army could adopt with some modifications
Wow they found the LBE
Dudes a total chad im sure the boy's love kicking it with the LT wish more leadership was like him.
Man, all I need in the jungle is a belt with a bay-o-net, sandals made from old truck tires, a canvas tube full rice, and a bandoleer with six mags.
Is someone going to tell them about a H Harness system?
But this one has double the buckles
Literally british PLCE but modernised lmao
That's kinda the point, bud...
Even further, pretty much modernised ALICE and M1967 webbing.
Look at the harness, there are much better options out there.
More like pattern 57 😂
Nothing like plce, much more like alice
Thank you all real soldiers and families for not only protecting all Americans
But also our allies around the world.
Gunbelt with suspenders. We were issued those in the USMC back when I was in a decade ago.
Love this channel
Love this loadout seires keep it coming
Nice to see some halfway decent equipment given to the Army instead of troops having to go purchase their own. Leave it to the Army to issue equipment made by people who have never had to wear it or use it.
Troops rarely really needed to ever go buy their own. They often were just geardo's that just wanted to be seen wearing the "sexy" gear. The issue stuff was fine for the most part.
@@irgilligan Lmao not even close. Most of the shit we get is hot garbage.
@@Avindur Lol, you in the texas guard or something. Becuase otherwise you don't know what you're talking about and you're just making it up...
So back to the Vietnam recon setup
Recon? This was standard equipment. Except that the number of pouches was a lot less on the belt. To this day, standard basic load is 7 magazines. Back in the day extra mags were carried in a 4 pocket bandolier, or 2. Your load out focused on MG ammo belts, Claymore mines and radio batteries.
absolutely a banger of a video
Old school belt rigs are totally bodacious, dude! Radical!
Webbing - Standard issue in the British Army 🤣
This is very close to the British Army one
This is what America used during Vietnam
It’s an American invention.
I find that drop buckle for rucking to be an interesting feature, hopefully we can get one of these as a surplus item in a decade
I was with the 25th back in 1989-1992. They introduced flack vests before I was done. Too hot, too heavy, and too burdened. We keep reinventing the wheel in big army. Contractors are now the key to small conflicts.
so its modern alice gear
we really swung right back to vietname era ALICE gear, lmaooo. I fucks with it though honestly
Thanks for the kit ideas
Appears to be an upgraded version of the LBE rig we used during the 70s - 90s.
For those asking about body armor: You’d just put the belt kit on over a slick plate carrier like the one that comes with the MSV. Like he said it’s easy to adjust to fit over. Plus in the jungle it’s too hot to move with armor on. You would wear the belt kit, keep your armor in your ruck, stop close to the objective, and put your armor on with your belt kit over top
You’d wear the plate carrier over the harness of this. We’ve been wearing this kit for near on 2 decades like that in the Brit army.
Like our Brit counterpart said, if you get the suspension harnesses thin enough, you can also put the armor over this. I did this in Italy and it is great for jumping “TAPS exposed” with MSV’s slick carrier on as well. I didn’t need a waistband extension to make it all fit under the T-11 harness.
Love the military related content, please do more!
So its the same setup i had in 86 and am rocking today!
It's basically a modernized version of the M1956 Individual Load Carrying Equipment used by our guys in Vietnam. the M1956 gave way to the M1967, which replaces a lot of the old cotton canvas with nylon duck fabric; then the All-purpose Lightweight Individual Carrying Equipment (ALICE), which was common issue from the 80s all the way to the 90s when it was replaced with the MOLLE gear used by soldiers during the GWOT in Iraq and Afghanistan.
This dude Calderone is going to be one hell of a company commander 🤩🤩🤩🤩 MQ for every OER!
where is the body army? If you were trying a new load bearing system, should you not test it as would be worn in combat. What is wrong with the LBE
Look up British army virtus kit. Webbing first, then body armour, then rifle then daysack goes on.
Great looking rig. I started on my carry rigs in the late ''60 - to early'70s .I used a similar type rig anywhere...not just jungle. One suggestion is that you can wear it higher on the body and even wear a gun belt below the "jungle" rig depending on the amount of carry mission gear required. Combining new tech with older gear, you can still wear a Camelback tied on to the suspenders. They are cooler and you can even open landscape down the front if you want to get closer to mother earth. If you look back the the M1 rifle belt in WW2, you may note it was worn above the waist. Thanks for the video.
That's basically what we used in the 80's. Load bearing equipment (LBE) with Y Harness attached to buttpack. Mag pouches on pistol belt.
Business Insider spreading the love for said “prototype combat rig”. Does Business Insider have a stake in this company? 🧐
Lmao they aren't that big. Civilians buy tac gear from them all the time.
LT is such a bro, I love it.
"Sometimes even rain that seems to be coming out from the underneath..."
It should be “old” and then “updated” 😂
That LT seems like a cool dude fr
We never should have moved away from this style of rig. The "counter-insurgency" strategy never worked. We should have been outfitted and trained for long-term, sustained, independent operations. Very short-sighted leadership back then. I'm happy that newer leaders have some common sense and can see the writing on the wall.
TBH it's more like they have no choice... COIN is a different game. And they are done with that game. What's happening in Ukraine, that's the new game.
@@PrograError I don't think COIN was very good in the first place. I understand where they were coming from, but we all knew it was BS back then. For some reason, the higher brass didn't.
One high speed LT. Has all his tabs, good presentation, he will go far.
In terms of any environment H suspenders and belt is what a fighter needs. It can carry your fighting load and squad ammo. Leaving your camel back or assault pack for water, and other mission gear or a ruck for sustainment.
Oh Pohakulua! So many cold, windy and bitter nights that spent there!.never thought that I'd see snow in Hawaii.
reminds me of my Alice rig from the 82nd that still sits in the corner of my office.
Butt pack, twin canteens, twin canteen cups, bayonet, 3 3-mag ammo pouches ,a SAW pouch for "stuff", and finally the twin pistol mag pouch for Leatherman and Gerber multi tool.
This isn’t new 😂😂
LTs are where everyone gets their good ideas and experience
LBE roots coming back. Wore the LBE back in the 90s with the old Flack vests. Back then I bitched about how much weight it was. Years later I was wearing full body armor and gear, wishing I could go back to the LBE and flack vest lol.
The Brits have be rolling with these for ages. The current Virtus system can even be hybridized to vehicle bourne loadouts to field loadout configurations and in between. So, you discovered parabelts/airborne webbing? Look up Dragon Supplies, British Tactical, they've been making this kit for ages. Ugh...not NEW!
Yep, the Ole LBE is back. Sucks for in and out of Vehicles.
old warriors never die, they just go back to the gear they had when they were young....
Hello there ALICE belt. Nice to see you again.
Yep....LBE revamped...there is nothing new under the sun.
The watch gotta be out of regs
Same with the hair some SGM is flipping sh!t right now.
@@aaronvillarreal2812 facts. I'm sure off duty he identifies as a trans female gender type. Military gone downhill literally. Standards and all.
He’s an officer … he’ll get away with it lol
@@HangtownTactical only cause of weak leadership. The numbers so low they scared to enforce rules cause people will get out. This is the most lax and soft military in us history
He’s also not a Pog
Most army thing ever. Hey go test this jungle kit in the high dessert. Chef kiss.
Awesome! I love the Vietnam era like web gear. I have a 1965 web gear myself. We should test them out on our joint exercises with Philippines/Japan etc.
Wearing standard issue MILES gear lol. Also LT needs a haircut.
He did say they had just been in the jungle for a few weeks and are in the field lol.
No, his hair is hot
do they not wear body armor in the military? also u know china instantly made their own bootleg version based on thos video
They do, they probably didn't wear it for the video though as it hinders mobility a bit.
If the US actually adopts 6.8X51mm as its standard infantry arm cartridge any opposing force would almost certainly be better off with IIIA soft armor to stop shrapnel and pistol rounds, because 6.8X51mm appears to go through level IV plate pretty damn easily, so why have some bulky and heavy plates attached to your chest when they won't stop the threats they'll encounter? soft armor would likely become the new standard until someone can make plates that stop 6.8X51mm.
Yes they do. But body armour is heavy and isnt comfortable to wear when going prone. This belt kit negates that and allows you to be lighter and to be able to go prone.
Jungle doctrine has you not wearing plates while operating in the jungle. Of course it’s not followed, but that’s how they teach it
@@MrLM002 Where did you see 6.8x51 go through lvl 4 plates?
@@jamesrapoza8046Haven't, that's why I used the word "appears".
If it can't go through level IV plate then what purpose does 6.8x51mm serve other than to blow taxpayer dollars?
This style of webbing has never gone away.
We always go back. We wore a mix of Y and H harness suspenders when i was in. Some things just work, now go back to the jungle boots we wore, they worked also.
Cheers
Army soldiers? You mean politicians? Because if one thing is for sure is that they are going to have a hell of a time drafting younger generations since we grew up seeing how senseless these wars really were. I met one marine veteran, and he clearly warned me to never join the marines. All he got were bad knees, and ended up working at a warehouse.
What war throughout human history wasn't senseless
Just seems like Alice gear with molle
Nice to know my old LBE is in fashion again (although I preferred to rock the old woodland camo LB vest).
After seeing Admin Result's very recent video about changes in body armor and doctrine, it makes sense that there's a shift towards going back to the chest rig and LBEs over the plate carriers, especially for long-range missions and mission essentials in different environments. Hell, I got a flat pack and chest rig that I can easily take off of my plate carrier and turn it into a chest rig with pack if need be. But for combat situations that can happen at any time, I'm still reluctant on giving up protection over speed. A balance needs to be meet which is why I'm considering a slick plate carrier.
sooo basically just webbing?
was "fight a possible war with china" really necessary? it sounds like fearmongering
Are you scared?
It's not fear mongering, it's reality
They're the singular major threat, hell the USMC is changing its entire force structure specifically to fight China
It is fearmongering? Or is it called being prepared, the US is gearing up for a potential fight with China, it’s on the forefront of the minds in the military now. If you can handle reality you should maybe reconsider consuming news. ❤️❤️
Don’t be afraid of China cupcake
In Singapore due to the heat incidents that increased with the load bearing vests, we have adopted a similar system for our conscripts with the molle vest and plate carrier used depending on the training. Otherwise just like the belt system he's using but not as many suspenders.
So innovative. Doesnt look anything like a standard 1960s-2000s webbing.
That army combat prototype can certainly make lives more cost-efficient friendly. These soldiers deserve more compensation somehow.
Best thing about belt kit is you can still access everything when prone flat on the floor.
What was old is new again! Good to see my good 'ol 1980's LBE set-up ready for a Cold-War European fight is now making a comeback once again. I always kept mine and I was still wearing it while right up to the early 2000's. when deployed.
1970s and 80s Army and Marines are like “wow, how innovative “
Any trendy fashion makes a come back after a couple of decades.
The biggest thing I recommend you do is lose the Securement rig because you probably know over time if you need to be dragged it's gonna choke you lower it where your adamant feels a lot more comfortable
Wow bro this new technology is pitted 🤙🏼 i can't believe these bros have figured it out. Load bearing web gear
I joined the Marine Corps in 1997. That is exactly what we had when I first joined H-Harnes from Vietnam. Our Flacks were in Vietnam as well. When 9-11 and how our gear changed from then to 2020 when I retired. It changed of course to what we used in OIF/OEF and whatever we called it when we were fighting ICIS out of Iraq and other places. Not a new rig. I still use the rig now that I got before we moved to the new stuff. It works great. I also use my oversized Alic Pac which is also old school. Warfare never changes just the environment.
You should make more videos like this with the army
I'm just curious and would like your opinion. How would you put on your armor plate? I'm from South East Asia and totally agree with you that when fighting in the tropical rain forest, you really need a lot of air vent to keep body temp cool otherwise the heat will get you before the enemy's bullet. The armor plates and the bulky clothing the US and "western countries" soldiers wear totally reduce their fighting ability. We wear a very thin layer clothing just enough to protect us from the environment. But the armor plates are very important for protection. It would be great to invent something lighter than those steel plates that can be used in the tropical heat environment.
Eagle Industries makes something called the Ergo Performance System, that keeps the plates from being directly on your back and chest, allowing better ventilation. Militaur and 221B Tactical have their ventilation systems, though I’m not sure how well those two actually work, and then platatac has their ICE vent system, which I’ve also heard is pretty good. For staying cool for a single day, Qore Performance has their ice plates if you can freeze them, they will keep you cool until the ice is melted and your body heat/ambient temperature heat up the water inside, but if nothing else, it’s a solid way to have some cold drinking water instead of a squishy bladder. Just know if you drink half the water in the ice plate and still have half left in there, it’s gonna make a little noise, sloshing around inside. Might be best reserved keeping you cool and for emergency drinking use or only while actually fighting. Hope that helps
@@MochiMoose thanks very much for the Info.!
Back to the furniture. Vietnam Webbing. USA and Australia used a similar rig. I used in the Australian army in the 80s. I get the lay out, it’s works.
(former rifle platoon leader) It is a military tradition that generals want an army which can win the last war. I'm astounded the Army is thinking of this BEFORE we get into the next war - unlike Vietnam and post-911. So much of the last two decades was fighting in built-up areas where the soldiers fought standing up. To use a WWII joke, "I can't get any lower, my buttons are too thick." In jungles/forests you fight prone or very low; we moved all our gear to our sides and back.
I’ve been rocking a similar set up for about 2 years now.
That looks like a modernized version of the H harness we trained with in bootcamp when I enlisted in 2005.
are you able to wear an iotv over that rig?
drop extenders is smart, belt kits are the way to go.