Friends with Benefits Rules for Guys
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If you're navigating a friends with benefits relationship, there are certain rules you MUST follow to ensure success. If you're looking to have fun but don't want it to end in a long-term relationship follow these 12 friends with benefits rules for guys so that you have the best possible outcome.
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Are you navigating a friends with benefits situation? I would love to hear how it's going for you.......and if you have any other rules, I'd love to hear about them below...
I was in a friends with benefits situation... met a girl, she was on vacation... stayed for a week, she left and we stayed in contact... We would to stay in the phone 📱 all the time... we would Video chat. Till we fell asleep ... She came back to my city about 2x after that... once with her son... I thought it was a relationship at that point... I decided I’d go to her state... in my line of work I can move around pretty easy... I have no access to immediate family members... She agreed, so I figured... hey... what Do I have to lose... well... I moved to her state about November that year... her kid birthday was that month and it was closer to thanksgiving... got my job that weekend was working by that Monday... everything was rolling smooth... A little getting use to, but smooth... Christmas, New Years pasted smoothly... everything was ok... till one day, she just came out the blue like... I want you to leave... no argument nothing... we were actually laughing drinking that night ... she was getting over a flu... it just came out of nowhere... so I’m like ok... So what are we doing, you still wanna be in a relationship?... Her response was... I doesn’t matter... if we do or don’t continue talking it don’t matter to her... so I’m like “Yikes”... I’m in a new state, seeing new faces n I don’t have anywhere to fall back since I moved from my city... Skipping a few details about trying to mend it because It didn’t work... I was told to get out by January... no pressure... I have a decent job but nowhere to go.. ended staying in hotels, holding on to my job in her city... truth is we were still messing around... she would still like pet name n visa versa.. So I was confused because it’s like we went backwards.. i had feelings for her so I my head we can’t just be friends with benefits... At that point I’ve already seen visual that she was tlking to other ppl... she would eventually tell me when I press the situation... Her responds would always be I’m single... I can do what I want... I this point we were breaking all these rules but she was talking to other ppl I wasn’t... skip a few more details including valentines... I end up getting a apartment after being basically homeless for 2moth in the middle of winter... n the day I did guess who’s back... 2 weeks later guess who’s gone again... then right as I’m about over it, I mean over like... I was talking on the phone with women n going out to activities... Don’t get me wrong, I dating has never been hard me for me... at least not getting to know a person and have a good time...That’s kinda easy no commitments n I try to keep expectations... However, as soon a I get back to me, she’s back n giving me what seems to be her full attention... She’s staying at my apartment at night, we’re probably break all the rules as I said... Now it’s like what are we going with this... her response it somewhere along the lines of, why do we have to label it... I’m with you everyday... We’re having fun... now I’m confused again honestly... coming from committed to not... it’s like I can’t help to wonder if you tlking to other people and should I be... Should I be enforcing you rules... I know some ppl would say “Hey boozoo” stop tlking to her... I just can’t seem too... 😔
That’s was a mouth full... Hope its legible...
Thanks for listening. A response would be nice...
@@fiascodon8996 Thanks for the note here. I don't diagnose situations on comments here -- but I'd encourage you to read this article and let me know which attachment style you think you have... www.emlovz.com/attachment-theory-and-dating/ (anxious, avoidant, or secure).
@@emlovz I think it’s a mixture between anxious and secure honestly... I grew up in a generally close household.. My mother was alway there for us n she hardly yelled and almost never swore... I still speak to her on almost a daily basis... so I don’t see it coming directly from my childhood household... this is the first relationship/situation that I’ve ever felt like this when I think about it.. So 🤷🏾♂️
@@fiascodon8996 Thank you for sharing!!!
Well, I am 34 in dc / nova area and still a virgin man 🙂, I still learn from your video!
Ten minutes into a first date some years back, a girl flat out told me she didn't think she could be into me more than friends. I was shocked by her candor, but I thought what the hell, let's just have fun tonight and I may never see her again thereafter. We met up with my friends at a club, and we had a blast,...as friends. Our night was winding down around 2am and we stopped at a Dunkin Donuts for coffee and some bites - just we two. About an hour into some convo, she started to look at me funny. Next thing I knew, she took my hand and slid it up her lap and up under her little skirt. And no, she wasn't drunk. Long story short, that was the beginning of our FWB relationship that lasted a little over 6 months. So guys, being friendzoned isn't always a bad deal. And like the lady in the video says, both parties should be clear about the program. Anyway, I stopped it because I got serious with this other girl(now my wife). That ex-FWB is married too now.
Sounds like a win-win
I would be willing to bet dollars to donuts this almost NEVER happens. I’ve been in the friend zone before and this was NEVER an option.
She sounds like a s l u t
@@saxophobe I wouldn't consider it a friendzone, as all happened within one evening. Ok, the story did not tell how it came to that date.
I hate fiction like this. All you did was pay an escort 200 bucks for one hour.
I was looking for this video. Looks like I need to go through your UA-cam video archive more often. Thanks Emyli.
Thank you for sharing this! I appreciate the conversation, because some of us don't have people to talk about this stuff with. It helps. 😊
I’m here to support guys just like you reach their dating and interpersonal goals. If you’re ever looking for a coaching program I have a group awesome male clients you can talk to in our private group too!
@@emlovz I see you wearing a cross. You know sex outside marriage is mortal sin.
@@alordi2701 venial & mortal seems to be the same with Catholic confessional. Kill or love till death, same same! 😘😵💫😅😂🤭😇😳😬🙏🙏
"Friends with benefits" is fraught with dishonesty. Do people who practice this ever communicate honestly with the other person and tell them: "your good enough to have sex with but not good enough to be in a relationship with"? Now that would be honest.
I feel like you would also lose your FWB if you did
and it would end things on the spot, most likely, even though you're 100% correct in what you're saying
@@emlovzi disagree with OP. There's alot of reasons someone may want an FWB, same as there's lots od reasons someone may want a platonic friendship.
Not every person is looking for an LTR. There'a also different standards depending on relarionship type: platonic VS fwb VS ltr VS marriage. The further you get towards marriage, the higher the standards.
You don’t have to say that. Just tell them the truth. You like them and want them in your life, but don’t feel that extra spark to chase the deep romantic connection…but you find her cool and attractive, even sexy- the whole nine, but that extra one spark is where romantic relationships live. And, If she’s down you could absolutely see something with a physical, while still deep- even if platonic- thing..because you do connect. Then just ask if it’s something she would want too, and also a good idea to let her know that you’re safe to turn down. That you have no expectations and just wanted to share your feelings/thoughts.(also mean it when you say it or don’t say it)
Also, people don’t have to be attracted to you and want to follow the rabbit down the hole to see if there’s romance… if you’re honest, it’ll always be fine. Anybody who gets pissed off about you not being attracted/interested romantically in them, isn’t worth your time anyway. Just be kind, and honest, and thoughtful about yours and her feelings, and she’ll be cool dude. We’re all Adults. Treat her like a real friend and respect her. Boom, donezo. Lol don’t overthink it or make it weird, yourself. She’ll follow your energy, whichever way.
I mean. Always be honest, just like…In general..?
Thank you so much for your video. The advice here, really helped me to clear up my head!!
You’re welcome!
I've rarely had a casual relationship (ie FWB situation), but the few times I have, the women were so entitled, they STILL expected me to take them out to dinners! Also, we each cuddled each other despite knowing it was only casual. I called these situations "Glorified Booty Calls." Oh, and one was bummed that I didn't call her on her birthday and merely texted her on her birthday, even though she had told me she'd be busy all day hanging out with her sons and friends, so I was acting logically. I told her straight up, "We agreed upfront to only date casually, and you're now expecting me to treat you like a girlfriend, which isn't fair."
@@bella300 oh I can afford plenty of dinners, and when I'm in a serious relationship (as I have been in for the past 9 months), I pay for the overwhelming majority of my dates, but I think you missed my point. My point was that a woman should not be so entitled as to expect us men to pay EVERY time we go out after the first handful of dates, and if you're in a friends with benefits situation, then they REALLY have no business expecting you to wine and dine them, as that's basically prostitution. I mean, you're each getting your sexual needs met, which is the only reason you're even having sex with this person, but one of you also scores free dinners out of it? Why is that fair? And I was also making the point that if you're clearly only seeing each other on a CASUAL basis, then a woman really should not expect to be treated like a girlfriend (with, for example, us paying for the majority of what we do)
I'd love for someone to make a video about FWB rules for open relationship couples.
Really good I like this video and you !!
I would have a very difficult time pulling this off. Sexual intimacy is too powerful to wield casually. The no snuggling/ cuddling rule would be the first deal breaker. That's the best part of sex! Thank you Emlovz. Jeffrey Z. in SC
Feel free to violate these rules, they might be worth considering but not mindlessly adhering to. Her and I, whoever she might be, do what we both want to do period. Many such situations and never explicitly talked about it before sex and not a lot after multiple encounters. One girl felt bad about "using me" which I found amusing, maybe it was because at one point I was somewhat emotionally attatched but got over that quickly for good reasons.
BTW--same rules exist for sexual attraction, if she doesn't respect you she wont want to bang you, and so on.
There's nothing wrong with a little bonding! Cuddle if you are into it!
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Damn right! Who came up with the idea that you can't care deeply for more than one person?
Been in many such situations without following any of these rules, the default is FWB unless explicitly stated otherwise. Sometimes a more committed relation is demoted to FWB in which case one side may need to get over emotional attachment, no BFD as long as no serious deception involved. Or FWB may evolve into more, just go with it, it's all good.
I'm in a relationship at first it was hard, cause I wasn"t sure how to take it, but It took me a while, he always says we're just friends, I would like more, but I'm not going to push it, then I"ll push him completely out of my life, but I can depend on him.
Thanks so much i learn so much by watching your video.
As a black man from here in Louisiana, who was born in the 70's, I must say that it is amazing to hear this kinda of advice.... from a woman!!!!
I am seeking for my forever now,my husband died some years ago and it feels lonely being single.
@@lisagreene804 Can I comfort you?
friendly act
Me too, even if I am not a black man. I guess it's more for women to disgust them. I find in her tone something ironic, anyway very original approach. Disgust coming from a suave blonde young lady....
I'm interracial outlaw, Black, American Indian, Irish, in that order. My Grand Pappy was a Beast, he told me as a young boy, Always tare that ass up!!!! Make it Pop😮 and go bout your business, LoL. Be the Man, not a creme puff. You're supposed to be the bull, not other way around like this talkshow, woke crap. Be a Man.
many thanks of your advice, love you emlovz
Thank you
What if you was dating and u break up but she find it hard to fuck you back because she said don't find u sexaul
You've helped me a lot
I think the point of the movie was that such a thing is not possible.
Stellar video.
Thank you
I’ve been in a few friends with benefits situation and the hardest part is the gym munication or understanding of how often we get together. That seems to be my biggest part. Do you not understand do you set a day? Is it every week is it every Thursday evening is it every Sunday after nine that’s and then the time in between do you communicate thank you.
Hey what if a girl is the one who just got out of a toxic relationship and doesn't want a relationship but down the line I started catching feelings
Personally, I can't restrain myself from cuddling and some of the other boyfriend/girlfriend behaviors. To me, they're the best part of dating, so avoiding them would defeat the whole purpose. As a result, my "FWB" connections have a pretty short lifespan, and it almost always plays out the same way: She catches feelings and wants monogamy, but I don't want monogamy, so it ends.
I'm very affectionate to my friends with benefits. Love cuddling. I would say for sure I've grown to love my friends with benefits. I avoid the monogamy thing by informing them straight at the start that I'm threesome man for a few very long term couple friends I have. They usually get interested and want to play too. Once they have tasted forbidden fruit they don't want monogamy anymore. But that doesn't stop them wanting a relationship, and when they see my couple friends who have all been married for over 20 years and happy together, they usually start thinking they can make us into that. It's really hard to get it through women's heads that me insisting on staying completely single and totally in charge of my own life in every way has nothing to do with them, it's me.....I've had three wives and the laws are just so stuffed up for men, that I'm just not gong there again...ever, never under any circumstances, with anybody.
stop breaking girls hearts just don't do fbw
Yea just do one night stands
Never at your place
Don’t give her your number there’s apps
Don’t be a jerk pay that Uber
If she doesn’t have a car
@@TheOzStu Yeah women always think they can change you. Even when you're honest upfront that you don't want monogamy or a relationship, they will often still believe they can persuade you
Remember what Carter said to Jackie in the movie," tare that ass up" LoL Make it Pop!!!
U can still cuddle with a fwb I've done n we both knew there was no realationship we both cooked for each other we were just friends n knew that so yinz can still do things for each other just know it's out of friendship friends can still do things n help each other out
Thanks for sharing!
@@emlovz I see u do understand on that note lol I see we could be perfect hmmm lol awwwe
yep. I've done that with all the casual relationships I've been in. (about 5)
I was in a friend with benefits situation. And it was going well but she got pregnant, so now we have a 2 year old daughter and were a couple now lol
So now you're a different kind of FWB - Friends With Babies - and you're really stuck in that friend zone!
Maybe a generational thing, but I have had multiple FWB's over the last couple of decades. I am kinda of a hard-core bachelor now - since my divorce over 2 decades ago. What I have found is that even though your rules are pretty much followed to the letter, over time the women that I have been involved with in this way (except for those that truly have commitment issues - typically for professional reasons - or at least that is what they verbalize) end up wanting the emotional aspect. It starts with wanting me to stay the whole night and increase requests for cuddling. You are right, once that begins, it is just a matter of time and they want to be a GF.
There is also a tremendous desire for women for security and FWB just doesn't do it for them - for very long.
This is spot on. Your needs first, always.
@@emlovz Actually, I think that best chance of a FWB relationship to survive is when both are getting their "needs" met. That isn't always easy as usually those that would go for a FWB are often very busy people and often the stresses of life calls for - some sort of release, if you know what I mean - and that doesn't always mesh up with 2 busy professionals.
Of course, there is a solution - more than one FWB. Things get really busy then. Then three . . .
I am seeking for my forever now,my husband died some years ago and it feels lonely being single.
you're generally correct. Of course, with my luck, I've actually met the few emotionally unavailable women who never got past the FWB aspect, DESPITE cuddling and actual dates for dinners, movies, and just hanging out before sex
I'm the same. What I've found is the antidote to that is to be the man women love to hate right from the beginning. Well it's sort of like being the man they love to hate and the man they love all at once. I make no bones about the fact that I have FWBs already. I recommend a guy do this....even if he has no other FWBs. The other thing is, they must know straight up front, that you have no probs with them having other FWBs too. I have overnighters and lots of cuddles and are very intimate and affectionate with my FWBs. I have one that has been FWBs off and on for over 20 years. Another that is coming up to 14 years, and another that is coming up to ten years. Not living in each others pocket, but when we get together the intimacy is just like they are my gf. Then I might not see them for a month, but stay in touch in between. If it wasn't that way, I wouldn't bother with them.
My Friend With Benefits arrangement just ended after 2 years. We have been friends for over a decade beforehand and She admitted She needs a Romantic attachment and She knows I'm Aromantic. She assured Me that it's not Me and that it's how She's feeling. We were all set to go this weekend after a year of not seeing each other for a year and She called Me the night before letting Me know this. I assured Her that I was perfectly ok with that and that a physical aspect was not the most important thing about our relationship. She was very happy that I'm so cool with it and we spent the weekend eating pizza and watching stuff She's been wanting to see that I told Her about.
You are ruthless darling, but you are right. That's why I don't have FWB. I am too romantic 😅😅
When I met this guy, (through a common friend ) we started texting and being a busy professional business owner he used to tell me that he was always tired at the end of the day because he worked too hard so I offered him a massage although I meant a back massage, he invited me over to “watch a movie” but after the back massage he turned over and had “it” hard and asked me to massage it as well. I felt the situation turned weird at this point because I thought he liked me for something serious. Anyways, I got myself out of the bed and walked away while I was telling him that just because he was rich he didn’t have the right to use women ( I never had a FWB before so, I didn’t know). After I left he called me several times but I didn’t answer the phone. Maybe he wanted a FWB maybe he didn’t. I will never know.
He missed a few steps in the escalation/courting (fwb or not) phase, which left you surprised. Glad you left when it was uncomfortable.
Just started watching the video and why? I saw an attractive woman and friends with benefits. The other reason is we as people are constantly learning, gaining perspective and growing. Emotional age, financial age etc., is not chronological age. Plain and simple if you invite a woman over to watch a movie you as the man set the expectations. I have always said you can come over, we will have a great time together and I know we’re not going to finish the movie. She comes over I’m going know what wine she likes, based on the vibe things will progress. This guy would have gotten laid if he had situational awareness. She’s in his bedroom, just massaged him and he made her feel cheap. That’s insane to me. No woman is doing that without having feelings in some way so don’t make her feel cheap, make her feel special by pulling her closer and…..
@@christophermolnar804 Well said!
So this video has had me realize we are dating and tho we agreed on boundaries we have none. Ooof.
I seen your video, it makes sense now.
Curious. Fwb. Is there a charge or does one charge for it. And. What is the. Rules for that or how it work?
Most men won't be upfront though. Unless it's talked about early on which it rarely is, then they will wait until you get to the uncomfortable "What are we?" stage before they reveal they aren't looking for anything serious.
I had the same fwb from age 16 to 38. We're still friends but I'm no longer attracted to him. We did it right. No expectations. I could just call him randomly and we'd get together and that was it. We could not speak for months and neither of us cared. Once he started bringing up dinner or a weekend away, I no longer slept with him.
My last was an ex. We had an agreement that was HIS idea, but soon into it he brought up traveling with me and meeting my family and I was so confused. We had feelings which made it harder. He wanted to be monogamous but no label. I was all set after a few months. He still tries and I'm good.
It CAN work, but not if emotions are involved. It can get messy.
My ex and I have been friends with benefits for 20+ years lol. No matter what we always gravitate back towards each other. Friends with benefits? Amazing sex with each other for this long, whatever you wanna call it it’s been working for a very very long time lol. We can’t seem to just go away for long…
Thank you❤
Thank you for wht? Telling you to have so little self-control
you literally cant wait for your next Partner like Everyone Else?
the only thing I'm guilty of here is cuddlng after sex and occassional hugging, but it's restricted to night time and always under the precursor of sex... I know I should probably work on that but sometimes it's just natural in the moment. it always leads to more sex.
thanks for the help
You don't push when you ask you respect every order and answer
And... This one is important: Accept that the sexual freedom goes both ways. She can see other men too. (If she wants to.)
Great Video. So I have a question. So I’m about to make my friends with benefits partner this Friday, she asked me to bring a condom with me but she said to bring a $50 Steam gift card for her kids to keep them occupied so they can play some games on steam so me and my friends with benefits partner can have some good privacy in her room. So my question is, can I really bring her kids a $50 Steam gift card?
I wish I was more aware of this when I got with my first "love" 30 years ago. What I thought was a relationship, he was more casual with it. I didn't see it for what it really was because I was under the impression that we were exclusive to each other, even though he had hinted by saying things like, "lets have a good time" "you can see other people". He never introduced me (or acknowledged me) to our friends or his family. I got sex and love mixed up. It took a mutual friend to tell me that he was engaged to marry other girl (who I was already suspicious of) to FINALLY make me see where I really stood. He was such a coward, wish he had at least closed things off with me when he decided to marry that girl. As I fell "out of love" and had a clearer mind, I can see that it was a "friends with benefits" relationship. The signals were there, but I was delusional for not seeing it for what it really was because I wanted more out of him then he wanted with me. It hurt, but a lesson learned. I'm definitely not a friends with benefits type of person. Thanks for educating those who needs it.
Thanks for sharing your story here and being so vulnerable. There’s no school that teaches us about dating or love….so how are we supposed to magically know all of this stuff ?!?!
such a good sport
Part of being young is we tend to see things for what we want them to be. Not for what they truly are.
As a man, I've been in your situation when I was in my twenties, and it sucked to find out the truth. When the heart is involved, it can cause you to blind yourself to the truth.
But I learned from it, I learned what I will and will not do, and what I accept and will not accept. For example, I will not knowingly enter into an fwb situation, as somebody catches feelings at some point, and unfortunately it's often one-sided, and thus somebody ends up getting hurt, and as much as it sucks being the dumped, it's not a lot of fun being the dumper, either.
Experience is an often brutal and expensive teacher. But it teaches you lessons you won't forget.
Any girl who gives you everything she's got knowing you treat her like :
"you want to make sure you make space in your life to meet the girl you really want to be with " Wow!😢
Not nice for her future husband either 🤮
Do friends with benefits have to pay or be paid to be a friend with benefits I don't remember paying the first friend with benefits I had when I was younger so it just blows my mind when the lady asks for a gift card so she could come to my house the thing is I always meet online and they ask if I want a hook up but then they ask for gift cards?? I don't wait for the ex for help I try to get new friends but they want me to pay for the benefits
Personally, I don't expect a call unless the power bill is unpaid, the car wont start or SHE needs a good f tonight.
I find that single mothers are often desperate for help to make their lives work, and I can help out with that from time to time.
It's quite natural that if you get the car working, that she will be grateful for the help.
They're called prostitutes, dude.
I think I missed it in the video because I was skipping around but my question is, it’s totally okay cool to see other people while in a FWB right?
I think that’s something you need to talk to about with your FWB. Because even though you’re technically not romantically involved, your FWB could feel like they’re being cheated on if you go and do it without them knowing. It’s also important to talk to your FWB about this because of STDs. I personally would love to know if my FWB is going out with other people so I know to use protection!!
@@bryanlucas3057 Oh yeah of course I would say that. If there was a chance of me hooking up with someone else I would tell them. It never got to that point and at that time, I’m not gonna lie I was still looking to see what else was out there but nothing came to fruition. But if it did, I wouldn’t keep it a secret to my FWB because that wouldn’t be fair to her and she has the right to know for her health. If that makes sense.
I'm in one and live with him ,been with him for 5 years now and I'm trying to leave him but he won't let me go.
Has he let go yet?
If what you're saying is true, call the police
fwb been doing it about 2 months now, she invited me out to bowling, she planned to go places for us, we cooked cakes together, she said we going to cook more easter, then sometimes she just wants cuddles and not sex ? any help please?
SHE invited you to bowling, SHE planned to go to places, SHE SHE SHE.
Why not try leading? If she's leading, she feels like a man, and hence, why she doesn't want to have sex with you. YOU MUST LEAD.
I am in a weird relationship, HER idea. Not exactly an FWB, somewhere between that and a romantic relationship. We violate most of these rules, and I would be fine with a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship with her. But she is adamant that it isn't that kind of relationship and we are open to see other people. She is mostly scared of falling in love again (she is a widow and I am a widower) and is terrified of committing to someone.
The sex is awesome and we like being with each other, so I'm going to hang around to see where it goes. It is enough of a "friends" relationship that I am definitely shielding myself from falling in love with her. I've let her know that I won't be seeing anyone else as long as we are in this relationship, I don't need to at the time. I've also let her know that I most likely won't hang around if she sees someone else.
Pretty much, it feels mostly like a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship where I am not allowed to tell her I love her or ask her to marry me.
I can live with that. I really don't see myself getting married again either.
Are you happy Frank? … Like really happy?
LOL. Probably not a fair question for an INFJ. What is happiness to an introvert?
Yes, I have to say I am. I was mostly looking for someone to share time with because of the incredible loneliness I was feeling six months after losing my wife to cancer. It is much more than I was expecting. The uncertainty allows me to keep enough enough distance that I could walk away without being devastated.
It is pretty crazy that I happened to watch this video at this time, and even crazier that I commented, I seldom do.
A guy she was seeing last year has started texting her the past week. We had discussed him a little, he always made her drive the 40 miles to see him, he never made the trip himself. Eventually he convinced her to have sex then never texted or called back. It really hurt her, to the point that She needed assurance from me that I wouldn’t…in the heat of passion.
Yesterday she was in meltdown mode over it.
We discussed it over the weekend, I cut the conversation off pretty early, knowing that I would end up being pretty nasty about him.
Me, who always has had problems setting boundaries actually let her know if she saw him it was over between us.
I reiterated that last night.
Anyway, it proves that your rules for FWB are legitimate.
LOL…can a guy actually friend zone a chick?
Little same here. But will go one step further. She's married and also into girls. I ignore all the red flags and tips. Wish to talk about it with others but I know they just warn me and tell me to stop. Nope. just enjoying the pressent moment(s) and don't look to far ahead. We can only climb one step in a time. Not an entire staircase.
I'm a guy. I'm not sure if FWB works. Doesn't getting physical with a good friend who is very attractive lead to feelings quickly? Maybe some people can pull it off.
it can, unless you're like me and have (sadly) learned how to compartmentalize your feelings when it comes to potential relationship/relationship sex vs non relationship sex. I've learned this skill after having had my heart broken over the years by women who only wanted sex or who were emotionally unavailable and sabotaged things with me.
I have to agree. If simple contact of cuddling brings on strong emotional attachment, how could the much more intimate contact of sex not do the same, and more quickly and strongly? Seems to me that FWB can only exist on a short term basis without drawing you both into something more than you really want. This has to be even more dangerous than having the full GF.
That is good advice. I am 70 Yō and have no desire to have a relationship. I would like to go out and have fun and perhaps have sex along the way. The idea of being completely honest and managing expectations from the beginning is where I'm at. The only thing I would have trouble with is the no cuddling. I don't disagree with you, but to me at least, cuddling is a part off foreplay, and it would be hard for me to enjoy sex without it. Now i just have to find likeminded ladies to be friends with and have to decide the best way or online platform to use.
What do you if you fall in love with person
Be transparent asap.
Lady, are you nuts? We're talking about human beings here. Not 2 robots. In the basis of FWB is a friendship. Why not have dinner sometime, with a gentleman paying? or hang out sometimes as friends? If you catch feelings, you catch them. It's the risk you take. You can't always perfectly protect your heart or predict the future. But why not cuddle, sleepover, spend time together and hang out? Women are not just a piece of meat with a few holes that you visit at night once in 10 days. I don't see any good reason for a woman to go for a man who's going to take all the advice that you're offering. You know, when you foster a kitten or a dog you risk getting attached and then you can't give them back and it's called "a foster fail" and it's really the best thing for both you and the animal, because you'r foster animal gets a great home? So true friends with benefits that become really closest friends and then fall in love with their best friend are kind of like that, a foster fail. Tell me- What's better than falling in love with your best friend? Sometimes people have a laundry list of unreasonable expectations of how their partner will look like, and they don't think a person fits that persona and they meet someone, they're attracted to and they agree to sex but then over time they grow on each other and they see that that person is what they needed all along, and they're rigid expectations we're just tripping them up from seeing that. That's how friendships with benefits can create a really meaningful relationship. But of course you never come with that expectation. You come with the expectation that it will be fun and enjoyable and you try to be in the now, and not to get hurt, and to take it easy. But also to have a friendship at the basis of that. How long since you've been on the market, having FWB??
Very well said. It all sounds pretty mechanical and detached. People don't work that way.
❤ where are you located & are you Available?
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Is it ok to send the a Xmas present
Not if she's Jewish
I’m in it now 😢💔
What can we do to have fun in a FYB relationship, when we are not seeing each other
Would getting vaccinated help?
See other FWBs
Why do they call this Friends with benefits? Shouldn't it be called Strangers with Benefits?
hi you are a nice person you look very nice to me thank you,
"Don't ask a fish how to catch a fish ask a fishermen"
-the red pill
I teach fisherman how to get even better at fishing.
@@emlovz ok by that logic, if i may ask:
1. Are you married
2. Do you have kids
3. Do you have a low N count
Facts, this chick is clueless
Anyone please help! I was with my boyfriend a couple months and we ended it due to him still being confused about his ex girlfriend. He said he needed time to figure out what he wants as he loves what we have but is trying to get over his ex. We are still amazing friends and hang out the same amount. So we figured why not be fwb. I’ve made it clear that we are completely over and I said it was too painful for me to wait for him and he said that’s fine. But now that we are fwb, he is acting a lot like my boyfriend, kissing me goodbye and cuddling when he gets the chance. Is he catching feelings for me? Does this fwb need to end?
Edit: I forgot to mention, he constantly asks to hang out normally and always wants to fall asleep on FaceTime together every night. Is he over me?
I've been done the same way with an ex gf, I was her side piece, but I didn't realize it then, she lived 45 min away so it wasn't easy to just drive over and see her anytime any day, she would tell me about guys she would have over but their just friends she says, I was too naive at the time and dumb and too much in love with her to end it, I'd tell him if I was u, it's either me or her, not both.
I'd never thought I'd have a friend with benefits but soon after I met a guy and we were , I was actually happier with him, it was just us two, not the added drama like before.
He is acting like a boyfriend he's catching feelings for you
@@blacklyfe5543 this was 6 months ago. Turns out he just wanted his ex. We haven’t spoken since
@@_mollyxo_2226 thanks for the update- reaffirms the weakest link is the truth. Whether he acts poorly or speaks poorly, the lowest one is his intention.
These rules especially apply if she’s married,
I hate the double standers they want us guys to be honest and direct while they hint , dont say what they want ,we have to guess all the time .No means yes or maybe . There very subtle and only hint .To many times I left a bar and while driving home I realize WAIT ! she wanted to F but with all the little games it never happen .
Oh I got that so many times. Always too late!
or you make the mistake of trying to be a gentleman and actually date her/get to know her, only to later learn she just wanted to hook up, which you would have been more than happy to do had you known that, but now even that possibility is gone. That happened to me 13 years ago with a super hot 25 year old I met one night in a bar, made out with, and crashed at her friend's house with her. But I wanted to show her that I was hoping to actually date her, so I didn't try to escalate things beyond kissing, hoping that would be a turn on. What a mistake that was. She added me to FB, but I got ghosted soon after
Hey so ive been hanging out with this girl for some time now and im interested in having a FWB relationship with them but im not quite sure how to let them know without it being awkward. I was thinking that the best way to do so is to be 100% direct and explicit. Any advice?
That's always a solid play!
don't say anything and fuck it up
Best advice I found was me n the girl would get drunk then became very playful and frisky and can lead to more best way without being awkward or breaking the friendship if she not interested can just say whoops I had to much to drink my bad and play it off laugh about it
Benefits only
What is the rule for dating coworkers?
My father conveyed to me when I was younger, Don't get your Honey Where you make your Money 💰😅. I have always followed that advice. I have seen a many co-workers, Male and female sued on grounds of Sexual Harassment. I have seen many Marriages wrecked. I have learned that expectations are pre-med stated resentments😂😂😂
Don't
I agree %100 about not telling the other person about who else they’re involved with. I personally told her that I didn’t want to know and she told me about the other guy anyway-it totally killed the vibe in that moment and made me feel disgusted. It’s important to always have a light hearted comeback (but nevertheless 🤮)
When you start feeling sick or upset when your Fwb is telling you about who they where with .... Your catching feelings and it might turn into jealousy. Leave the FWB right away cold turkey
seriously! what a crazy girl she must have been to think that was ok to talk about! 10 years ago, I had some girl do the same thing to me, and, even worse, I KNEW the other guy!! I said to her, "I don't take it for granted that I'm the only guy you're dating, and you're certainly not the only girl I'M dating, just so you know. But do you really think I want to hear about another guy, especially when you know I know him personally?" Her reply, "Oh, I'm sorry. I guess I just think too much like a dude." My reply, "No, that's not thinking like a dude....that's just being awkward and inappropriate." And, crazy enough, she eventually wanted to be exclusive with me, so I gave in to her request (she was 25 and hot), then she dumped me barely a month later, went back to him (probably never left him), and everything they got married and are still together 10 years later!
@@Lonstermash Me, I would have just said.......cool.....I know him...cool guy. You should invite him over for a threeway with some DP. We can toss to see whose got the backdoor. lol Or maybe spit roast.....heads or tails. :) Mate, your jealousy is your Achilles heal. It's what women use to get you under control. It's the only thing they can use to get you under control. Fear of losing them, fear of sharing them. If you just don't give a shit they will stop trying.
@@TheOzStu oh, I never gave a shit about her after realizing she was not long term potential after a few dates prior to the conversation. But that doesn't mean she wasn't being a tad bit awkward with what she told me. And the fact that I made it clear to her that I, too, was operating as a free agent after her awkward conversation shows that I wasn't jealous, or anything. It's just not something you necessarily want to hear from someone you're dating, even if it's casual
First rule is an immediate buzzkill on the night. These things should not be overthought. Either it happens or it does not.
If a FWB relationship starts to dissolve, the man will typically become more emotional than the woman; not because of love lost, but because of losing a sex partner. The ratio of available FWB partners is probably 1 woman for every 50 men. The loss of a FWB partner for a man would be much more devastating than for a woman.
I want to be friends with benefits with emyli, she looks fun
Haha good one 😂
The rules is there no are rules!
Whatever comes up.
Why are there so many men looking for the FWB and not woman looking!!!!! look at your replies. Woman have the upper hand and control who,where, when, what,and if they want to be with YOU!!!!! I will take my chances being ALONE and not MAD !!!!!!!!!
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I deal with single mothers, who are often desperate for help to make their lives work. That changes the bargaining power.
When there is no money to pay the power bill or the car wont start, that's when I expect to get a call. If I fix a problem for a single mother, gratitude is the norm, and sex is the currency single mothers have available with which to pay.
The key is not to be RESPONSIBLE for making their lives work!
Another rule: don’t call each other babe, hun, sweetie or any of the pet names.
True that; my fwb asked me recently to not call her "babe" just by her name.
FWB and hookup sex has only 1 rule. This is what it is:
Having sex without becoming emotionally attached hoping it becoming a committed relationship.
Why is that so hard to understand?
Ehh it gets sticky though. One guy got confusing af having me meet his daughter, friends, dates every week, wanted to meet my family ( I denied that), and basically wanted everything but the label. I walked away. Still to this day he keeps trying. Anyone I did fwb got it though. I don't get the disconnect with some.
@@SunshineAndSnowflakes
It's very simple.
They just don't get it.
Why is that so hard for you to understand / figure out?
There is no mention of rules for gals
There are no friends. I see no benefits from others.
Good Fucking Friends Rules!~
That is my biggest fear when asking a potential FWB candidate. I just feel she will think I am a perv / a creep for asking if I can go into her pants, so I never mentioned anything at all...
6:40 💯💯💯💯💯, thats why im keeping my options open while im flirting with this other girl 😏🤷🏾♂️ !
FwB but can I buy her stuff? I just want to be nice
Personally, I don't buy my single mothers gifts.
When they don't have the money to pay a power bill or the car wont start -----THEN they call me.
When I fix their problem it's quite natural for a woman to be grateful.
I say to the people that think it’s bad to just try it. My experience was awesome I didn’t know at the time if I wanted a relationship but I still wanted sex so the FWB worked for me.
If we can’t cuddle then maybe it’s not worth it 😂
I know that sucks😂
Well, if the power bill is past due or the car wont start, who you gonna call?
Ghostbusters?
Personally, I'm fine with cuddling. I treat others decently and being treated decently is a condition as well.
Seen friends Male and female with benifits it never lasted or worked out especially with women they end up wanting more or try to turn it into a relationship with benifits ,had a couple of fwb both great l layed down the rules and asked hers and if they mesh it's on but alas they change the rules to benifits them
Do 20-40yr old women prefer to date a man that has or hasn’t had sex in the last 3 months?
I'm not sure if that's something women really think about. What are you worried about?
And we talk about this stuff in our FB group if you wanna join us! facebook.com/groups/thedatingformula
Friends with benefits relationship is made of two unconscious robots. Here's why. If two people were capable of emitting timelessness at the same wavelength, the emergent Resonance would be so meaningful and special, they would not part. The loss of which would make you exit this hellish place immediately.
Resonance
Standing wave that emerges from the liminal, between harmonic frequencies of vibration, oscillating with greater amplitude than the emissions : a quality that makes something personally meaningful or important to someone. The interference pattern of harmonic frequencies of vibration does not cause the Standing Wave. Rather it emerges from the liminal, from nowhere. The core type of Magick.
Why buy the cow when the milk is free?😂
Most will disappear…
Pretty much all will disappear. And that's fine too.
Wow, now I've heard it all. A woman giving advice to men about how to get away with intentionally bad behavior. First off, a friend is someone who cares about you (and some love you), shares good times with you and is there to support you when you need that. A friend buys you dinner whenever they damned well want to, and vice versa. A friend helps you pack up for a move (or ten) and you dog sit for them on vacation. A friend listens when you whine about stuff and you do the same for them when they need to vent. You can see, call, or text a friend any time of day or night, and no limits on how often you see them. Friends are hugging machines. And finally, friends do not use their friends for sex. I especially despise, "don't introduce her to your friends". The assumption being that once the sex ends, so will the so called "friendship" so having introduced her to your friends, you might be forced to keep her as a real friend? Yikes, have you even thought any of this through to the consequences? A true friendship can sometimes endure a mistaken tryst but once a friendship gets physically intimate... it either escalates into a relationship or it implodes the friendship. I fully understand how men can be into this but as a woman, what is the actual benefit? (unless you're looking for side action, then I get it). And yes, I've given it a go with this so-called FWB with an open mind and no expectations. It didn't take long before it started to feel just plain wrong, so I ended the benefits, and am now curious as to whether the friendship will survive.
What works with A and B, need not work for C and D. Or for A and C. Or for A and B in 2024. Sometimes sex is love, sometimes sex is sport.
@@henrybutchy3242 If sex is a sport then why isn't it part of the Olympics? This instant gratification society of ours has you rationalizing using your friends for sex into something acceptable. I would wager a bet that a majority of the time one of the parties in a FWB is agreeing to it with the hope that it will turn into a relationship. If you're in it just for sex then you're toying with someone's emotions and if you are a decent person you would know that this is not OK. A one night stand is a much more ethical way to get laid in a sportsmanlike manner.
Very well said 👌
Makes a lot of sense
She's not describing a FWB situation. She's describing booty calls. Recreational use only.
Shit im tryna be your friend with benifits😏🤣
These friends with benefit rules are too restrictive. Mainly because this arrangement is too unstable. How do you have sex with someone without cuddling? If you are generous by nature why can't you buy them lunch or dinner or take them on a holiday? If you can afford it and they can't, is it so bad if you already said at the outset that you don't want a full relationship?
Cuddling and buying dinners are pair-bonding exercises. I would explore if being generous is an excuse to wanting more than an FWB relationship.
I mean, I’d be confused as the woman in those examples.
@@emlovz yeah once you start doing that the lines get blurred.
I invite my single mothers to call me when they have a power bill they can't pay or the car wont start.
They need help, and I'm fine with helping. Being grateful for that help is quite natural.
I find that a lot of single mothers have a tough time making their lives work.
Who you gonna call ----Ghostbusters?
My single mothers know they can call me.
@SeattlePioneer hey, I'm willing to help start their car and mow their lawn, can I have their number please?
Question: What do you call a friend with benefits that pays for everything, ie, house, vehicles, food, liberties, credit cards?????
Answer: a Husband. 😔
Not in my reality
How do you all not cuddle after sex or in cold nights 🤔
😆🤣😂
@0:10 I did that... so... why aren't we FWB yet?
Talk about the dangers of unrequited love. And, you expect people to have sex with others that are only friends? What kind of society are we living in?
A practical one.
If the power bill is past due or the car wont start ---- who you gonna call?
Ghostbusters?
My friend with benefits is honest from the very beginning that he is offering me just that, sex whenever i want and need it. Very straight forward which i really like. So yeah were still that fwb and the sex is great. By the way im 45 hes 26😂greetings from Sweden 🇸🇪
Would be great to have something like this. Tried it 3x... but the women were fundamentally not that good at all and almost worse than nothing. 2 of them had Asperger's, the other one super smart (academically). All 3 thought I was some boyfriend thing and all i wanted was a mutual massage situation with NOTHING more. In each case... I say... I don't want sex, ever... and then they hate me. Best to avoid it I think and have been 10 years free of all entanglements and friends and benefits. Never got one "benefit" from any of those three. Not a one. They got benefits ... me... nothing.
in this case what is the difference between friends with benefits and casual sex?
Be honest about what you are doing with other women but don't believe her when she tells you she isn't sleeping with other guys. If you are FWB she IS with other guys, probably even if you are her boyfriend.
Even if you are not in a FWB situation she is in all probability with other guys. And that's perfectly fine.
Assuming the other person can read your mind is something women do.
FWB .. ok sure, but for people just having Sex can alot of times evolve into more feelings for either the guy or the girl, Even if they say its all good with just The "Sex Benifit Friend situation"
Simple :
High body count women = More like a FWB would work, can't pair bond anyway.
Serious women = More like a serious relationship.
Uh, oh... my FWB just brought over dinner for me.....
This feels like a set-up
Nooooo
It is … to see if you fall for it.Treat a hoe like a hoe ….”Bitches but hoes and tricks”.Now if you “happen” to meet a real,rare woman treat her as such.Alllll women are women per se some just aren’t really hoes but the majority are.Thats why it says he who “finds” a wife.Its true.