The TRUTH About Social Media & Your Children | Jonathan Haidt X Rich Roll Podcast

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  • Rich sits down with Jonathan Haidt, an NYU professor and best-selling author, to talk about the negative impact of technology and social media on young people’s mental health and well-being, the harmful effects of hyperconnectivity, proposing potential solutions, and more. To read more about Jonathan and peruse the full show notes, go here👉🏾 bit.ly/richroll827
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    TIMESTAMPS
    00:00:00 Intro
    00:03:06 Inflection Points In Technology And Mental Health
    00:04:39 Impact Of Social Media On Mental Health
    00:07:48 Effects Of Smartphone And Social Media On Child Development
    00:11:55 Loss Of Childhood Independence And Trust
    00:14:58 Techno Optimism In The 90s And Early 2000s
    00:15:39 Reflections On The Early Days Of The Internet
    00:15:57 The Impact Of Hyper Connectivity
    00:16:22 Foundational Harms Of Technology
    00:17:57 Decline In Social Interaction
    00:19:10 Impact Of Technology On Teenage Socialization
    00:20:46 Attention Fragmentation And Multitasking
    00:23:54 Addiction And Brain Development
    00:30:41 Sponsor Break
    00:31:47 Gender Differences In Technology Impact
    00:32:31 The Increase In Suicide Rates
    00:33:25 The Impact Of Technology On Mental Health
    00:34:05 The Effects Of Social Media On Girls
    00:35:37 The Psychological Differences Between Boys And Girls
    00:38:44 Negative Effects Of Snapchat
    00:42:11 The Value Of Social Media To Society
    00:46:23 Proposed Solutions To Counteract The Negative Impact Of Technology
    00:47:13 Smartphone And Social Media Norms
    00:47:52 Challenges Of Implementing Norms
    00:48:41 Impact Of Florida Law
    00:48:53 Tech Companies' Responsibility
    00:49:26 Phone-Free Schools
    00:51:25 Restoring Childhood Independence
    00:52:15 Addressing Skepticism On Social Media's Impact
    00:52:43 Debunking Moral Panic Argument
    00:57:07 Consideration Of Other Factors
    00:58:52 TikTok And Mental Health
    01:01:42 Fragmentation And Misinformation
    01:02:37 The Impact Of Social Media
    01:04:22 Silencing Of Moderates
    01:06:47 Challenges For Democracy And Younger Generation
    01:11:04 Erosion Of Trust In Institutions
    01:16:19 Hope For Change And Spiritual Degradation
    01:19:17 Spiritual Wisdom And Loss Of Guidance
    01:20:00 Ego Vs. Self-Transcendence
    01:20:20 Impact Of Technology On Mental Health
    01:21:07 Self-Improvement And Mental Health
    01:22:19 Vertical Dimension Of Life
    01:24:31 Morality And Community
    01:26:21 Cohesion In American Democracy
    01:30:28 Parenting And Technology
    01:34:10 Tech Companies And Reform
    01:35:14 The Legal Battle Against Social Media Platforms
    01:36:12 The Need For Regulation And Bipartisan Support
    01:36:33 Social Media As A Common Enemy
    01:37:21 Impact Of Different Social Media Platforms
    01:39:48 Age Restrictions And Lack Of Enforcement
    01:41:51 International Efforts And Leadership
    01:43:58 Art Project As A Tool For Change
    01:50:13 Hope For Change
    01:53:09 Credits
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 241

  • @richroll
    @richroll  Місяць тому +15

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    • @GuidetteExpert
      @GuidetteExpert Місяць тому +2

      There are not only snapchat streaks there are quick adds of people that you dont even know or have your phone number. Also now there are open story's of other strangers that aren't even public figures to make you stay on the platform.

    • @hassnainkhan608
      @hassnainkhan608 Місяць тому +1

      ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

    • @GracieVillatitoyohpeep24
      @GracieVillatitoyohpeep24 3 дні тому

      I have been dying to ask you about where can I buy the water bottles that you use in your podcast.

  • @AmbientClassical
    @AmbientClassical Місяць тому +185

    It’s time for change. As a 26 yr old, I recognize that digital addiction is destroying my friends, my brother, my parents, my community, and myself. I’m sick of it. It’s time we do something and start reforming this.

    • @minhcao1838
      @minhcao1838 Місяць тому +5

      I agree. I’m starting with myself.
      Like some people who count calories (macros). I do something a little easier. I write down the title of every video I watch whether it’s a 10 second clip, reel, UA-cam clip, tv show, Netflix, etc.
      It really makes me think twice about watching something.
      I’m at #314 as of today. The majority are podcast I watch on UA-cam. I don’t think any of us know exactly how many reels we scroll through when we are addicted to our phones. I’m actually perfectly okay with this number. Im not the best reader, but I love listening and experimenting

    • @LOYAL2aT
      @LOYAL2aT Місяць тому +1

      So true. My teen son visits my mother (grandma) and she plays games on her phone … she’s accustomed to living alone and that has become her distraction and dopamine fix.
      Sadly, we’re all guilty of it and I notice and intentionally observe this while around family friends and out in public. It’s screens in front on their face in place of the human whose life is limited in that space 😢 We can’t let them use us or our children as pawns …

    • @khemestre
      @khemestre Місяць тому +3

      What are you reading on social media?? Its community events, grassroot groups, etc etc that are also on social media. Not saying your not seeing the other stuff you mentioned! But I'm reality its not going anywhere anytime soon!! 🤦🏾‍♂️ I e made my peace with it by making sure Im picking ane choosy about looking at causes and needs versus what jus appeals to me aesthetically!

  • @claudiacorral4559
    @claudiacorral4559 Місяць тому +123

    I am Gen X and don´t use IG, FB, TT just watch very few content creators on youtube and I can say I am very happy, my activities: gardening, hiking, mountain bike, pet sitting, cooking and yoga :)

    • @dmug
      @dmug Місяць тому +6

      Xennial here, I have a Facebook account I basically stopped using years ago. I’ve never had twitter, IG, snap chat etc and I think one reason I’ve never been depressed is I don’t use any of these services, the other having friends I see in person, and analog hobbies like hiking, skiing etc

    • @nicoledonaldson1589
      @nicoledonaldson1589 18 днів тому

      You are the exceptions which is great!!! but they are talking about the majority.

    • @steffengrossmann169
      @steffengrossmann169 12 днів тому +1

      Same here. Insta etc bores me to death. It’s so shallow and so fake. The “right” use of UA-cam helped me to start my own business which in return made me a wholesome happy person, which copies down to my family. But as a 40plus person I lived in the real world first, so I know how to deal with the fake one.

  • @joec8942
    @joec8942 Місяць тому +57

    Quitting Instagram made my panic and anxiety attacks go away completely. I also have exponentially less violent random thoughts in response stressors. Best thing I’ve ever done for my mental well being.

    • @admez2680
      @admez2680 Місяць тому +5

      Same here. Left Twitter in about 2020, FB in 2013. Limited YT now. Mental health improved drastically just by unplugging. The whole ecosphere of social media is poison for the mind.

    • @suzanneemerson2625
      @suzanneemerson2625 6 днів тому +1

      I’m older (grandma) and curious.
      Do you think it was the total quitting of Instagram altogether that made your panic attacks stop,
      or was it not watching specific content that made them stop?
      In other words, could you have just stopped looking at a certain type of content there and felt better, or was it really necessary to stop watching the app completely to feel good?

    • @Littlewing.
      @Littlewing. 6 днів тому +1

      Just deleted Snapchat TODAY

  • @m5073
    @m5073 Місяць тому +219

    I’m an ER physician. I can’t get my adolescent or teen patients to look at me when I speak to them. Parents seem timid even asking their children to get off their phone while the doctor is speaking to them. It’s such an issue.

    • @user-bb8tz2kq7y
      @user-bb8tz2kq7y Місяць тому +1

      The United States is now called Toddler Nation Teens and young Adults acting like little Toddlers 🤔

    • @susanjohnson1428
      @susanjohnson1428 Місяць тому +19

      Why would a parent be timid about asking their child anything? It’s this kind of behavior from parents that has let this problem get out of hand. Who’s in charge? Sounds like the kids are. Unreal

    • @London60797
      @London60797 Місяць тому +18

      We need blame parents not children

    • @susanjohnson1428
      @susanjohnson1428 Місяць тому +1

      @@London60797exactly

    • @ashleyannephd
      @ashleyannephd Місяць тому +9

      It truly is sad to see the family disregulation around social media.

  • @HigherThinkersClub
    @HigherThinkersClub Місяць тому +100

    It is effectively impacting Adults also

    • @MB-hz7wm
      @MB-hz7wm Місяць тому +7

      We're the last generation who has a frame of reference for what life was like before/after cell phones and internet and I feel it's our duty to at least make an effort to show the value of both not relying on technology as well as the beauty and power it can offer us (personally and professionally).
      When younger generations are growing up valuing these things, they'll soon be parents raising their own kids instilling and/or condoning the same values.

  • @rebeccacheinemann
    @rebeccacheinemann Місяць тому +47

    This parent is on board. Thanks Jonathan! No social media for my child.

  • @OttoLinked
    @OttoLinked Місяць тому +16

    Being a a parent is challenging enough without social media. Now it’s a true battle.

  • @bfmchalfdead9804
    @bfmchalfdead9804 Місяць тому +44

    As a father, I lead by example and show them life outside or off the phones. I try my hardest as a parent to introduce them to everything but the digital world. In an age that kids can’t be kids it’s very disheartening

  • @adunzoroq33
    @adunzoroq33 Місяць тому +69

    Hands down my biggest addiction is UA-cam and especially long form podcasts like this one 🥲

    • @thepetersfamily6323
      @thepetersfamily6323 Місяць тому +14

      There are worse ways you could spend your time than listening to RRP. LOL

    • @AvsFan32
      @AvsFan32 Місяць тому +5

      Same and it’s replaced reading for me 😔

    • @potterylady44
      @potterylady44 Місяць тому +1

      Omg yes

    • @lisaleonard244
      @lisaleonard244 Місяць тому +11

      I listen to long form podcasts while working out at the gym and hiking. I read at night. I quit social media 2 yrs ago. Life is way better and so is my mental health and self esteem.

    • @AMPLIFIER1
      @AMPLIFIER1 28 днів тому

      Oh no I’m in trouble

  • @leylaherr2395
    @leylaherr2395 Місяць тому +11

    I’m so grateful I listened to my gut all those years ago. I have a 14 year old, 12 year old and 7 year old. I decided years ago no phone or social media until 18 and so far I’m doing great, and gaining confidence every day. My children are starting to notice the negative effects it is having on their friends, even making different friend choices bc of phone and media addictions.
    My older two have an Apple Watch that allows them to text and call family members only.
    This message needs to get out. I wish more parents had the guts to at least put some restrictions on their children. Even parents of children having bad problems feel like they can’t pull back. It’s so sad 😢

    • @derekspence7241
      @derekspence7241 Місяць тому +2

      You’re an awesome parent I really mean that!

    • @leylaherr2395
      @leylaherr2395 Місяць тому

      @@derekspence7241 Thank you. It’s tough when I am the only parent around implementing this.

    • @sharinaross1865
      @sharinaross1865 14 днів тому

      ​@@leylaherr2395 kudos to you ma'am for staying firm in parenting.

  • @contechdownunder
    @contechdownunder Місяць тому +16

    My sons high school just banned phones during school hours. That is a win for us in New Zealand!

  • @bellelacroix5938
    @bellelacroix5938 Місяць тому +11

    Ugh. No social media is one thing but they can still Google and get on sites that will ruin the innocence of a child in 5 minutes and there's no going back from that.

  • @adriansanchez4875
    @adriansanchez4875 Місяць тому +8

    I wasn't really much of a social media person in high school and I remember one time I went to a party and like a week later even the friends that I literally drove to the party with(my car) didn't remember me being there because I didn't post anything because I didn't have IG or snap. These people aren't my friends anymore and I'm glad.

  • @user-qc2qg1iz9w
    @user-qc2qg1iz9w Місяць тому +18

    My neighbor has a 10-year-old boy.He has 2 phones and is constantly on both at the same time.Looking at different things. When I say something to her about it she looks at me and says he'll be okay. Very sad.

  • @jaymburke
    @jaymburke 27 днів тому +2

    I love Rich’s use of metaphor! Always dropping them in so naturally. “How do we reach across the aisle!”

  • @a.wilcox5690
    @a.wilcox5690 Місяць тому +28

    I see parents out with their kid and the parent is on their phone ignoring the kid. The kid looks bored and disconnected.

  • @lotusfire7478
    @lotusfire7478 Місяць тому +18

    The rule in my house, can’t get a phone until get a job. My oldest is 26 and my youngest is 10. My children are very independent and creative! I allowed them to have iPads but my husband and I place parental controls and limitations. It’s a privilege to have an electronic device. I teach families in the practice I work to place boundaries! Kids need this!

  • @lilporkchop321
    @lilporkchop321 Місяць тому +7

    I halfway agree on the videogame topic, mostly because of the way game design has changed. Back before online play was wide spread and games were more compartmentalized to one console, one location and local split screen multiplayer. Back then games were designed to be ENGAGING over moment to moment gameplay, now they're designed to be ADDICTING over a much longer timeframe. That's a fundamentally different approach to how games are designed and played which is incredibly predatory and unhealthy.

  • @susannamacari3476
    @susannamacari3476 Місяць тому +6

    You guys are like guardian angels. Especially for the younger generation!
    Thank you so much Rich and Jonathan.

  • @courtneylarsen7674
    @courtneylarsen7674 Місяць тому +6

    Such an incredibly important conversation. Thank you both!!!

  • @johanalong2910
    @johanalong2910 Місяць тому +12

    Alright, this video was all ot took. No more social media. Even if its just for "editing" purposes. No more! A phone is a tool, not for lesure. Thank you guys for getting this out here. It matters for our future. ❤

  • @chocolatemint9225
    @chocolatemint9225 Місяць тому +15

    Be the Mean Mom and Dad. It’s ok to set limits and say NO. My kids are college age now. They weren’t allowed to have a social media or smartphone until high school, and we always extremely limited their TV and computer time. They got a budget of a couple hours on Saturday/Sunday for media not related to homework, they could do gaming etc. They are thanking me now for not encouraging the addiction and they can see how devastating it is for their peers.

  • @emilychen4161
    @emilychen4161 28 днів тому +2

    As a high school teacher, I experience the lack of connection every day among our students with each other. When phones are out, people are non-existent

  • @SirtsRohutirts
    @SirtsRohutirts Місяць тому +13

    My mother is PE teacher (the kind who at 50+ still shows and does everything). About 15 years ago she wrote a paper about Posture flaws in Basic school. At that time the school she works had a ratio about 3 posture flaws for 10 healthy children in class. By now it has flipped around. Basketball, volleyball, squats, skip rope etc are a struggle to teach cause the coordination has dropped significantly, and continues dropping. The national plan for PE subject has been made easier constantly to accommodate yet can't keep up with the drop and demands some creative thinking to even come close to achieving. By definition children aren't children anymore.. but more like young looking old people.

    • @sharinaross1865
      @sharinaross1865 14 днів тому +1

      Love your last two sentence.

    • @suzanneemerson2625
      @suzanneemerson2625 6 днів тому

      What does this comment have to do with social media?

    • @SirtsRohutirts
      @SirtsRohutirts 6 днів тому

      @@suzanneemerson2625 Because an active child doesn't have time to be on phone. And younger years imitate older years. As a tangible example: the moment the school (my mother's in this case) got upper years that were into soccer, they asked to be allowed soccer games during breaks/free period in the gym or field and agreed to self managing condition (schedule and inclusion of different age groups, beside their own, in different periods). So it spread to younger years and became default activity during outside of lessons. It didn't happen randomly though. That upper year group is used to going to regional soccer competitions, some of them had taken part of student body activities for years (networking, team dynamics, social media as a tool, negotiation skills etc). The moment they graduate and next upper years are more passive the phone screen time will increase again. Unless school will establish the no phones in school rule.

  • @jithenin
    @jithenin Місяць тому +7

    Thank you “ Rich “ for this PODCAST with “ Professor Jonathan “ ❤😊🙏

  • @fixitfelix3207
    @fixitfelix3207 Місяць тому +7

    That was very good. Every parent should watch this episode.

  • @joleh6077
    @joleh6077 Місяць тому +8

    58:10 I'm from East Asia and I assure you, the social media problem is huge. As a collectivist society, feelings of isolation is a great fear even if people don't express openly. Almost all teens here are addicted to phones, obsessed with body image, status, and trending information. Mental health and suicide rates are going up like never before and we've hit OECD number 1 on the charts for suicide, especially among children. Hate crimes, bullying, suicide and mental health - all of these are on the rise and particularly among children and young adults and I believe apps and content ARE the direct source. Let our kids BE kids! They ARE the future.

    • @spocksdaughter9641
      @spocksdaughter9641 Місяць тому

      Thank you. I really appreciate imputei really have opportunity to know about....Best wishes to continue to Speak Up. Reguards American in the UK (on line since 1993)

  • @sandybeaches4248
    @sandybeaches4248 Місяць тому +23

    It's not just kids and teens !!!
    My 72 yr old retired husband ( I'm now positive he has undiagnosed ambergris) lives on his phone tablet and TV.
    One would think from his actions that he was a teenaged boy !
    It's a mind numbing garbage trap !!!

    • @thepetersfamily6323
      @thepetersfamily6323 Місяць тому +5

      Agree 100% I am addicted and so is my husband. We're all sitting here like zombies on our own separate devices. And it's so hard to stop!

    • @user-xp5id1kh4r
      @user-xp5id1kh4r Місяць тому +1

      what's "undiagnosed ambergris"?

    • @sandybeaches4248
      @sandybeaches4248 Місяць тому

      A high functioning form of autism.

    • @alex8480
      @alex8480 Місяць тому

      ​@@user-xp5id1kh4rassuming she means aspergers?

  • @Alexanderyayaya
    @Alexanderyayaya Місяць тому +4

    Thanks for a great interview and thank you Jonathan for your work! This is how change begins 🤞🏻

  • @coyotepeyote
    @coyotepeyote Місяць тому +3

    My 60 year old mom is more addicted to her phone than i am as a 30 year old millennial, it's not just kids who've been sucked in, i agree though it's much worse for kids, i'm proud that my sister and her husband haven't let my nephews have phones yet, their oldest who's in 7th grade just has one of those watches that only lets him contact a handful of people and doesn't have social apps.

  • @carmenbailey1560
    @carmenbailey1560 Місяць тому +12

    All this social media has made us all addict in one way or another. At 71 I’m connected to UA-cam in place of TV. I’ve learnt quilting, cooking techniques, gardening styles. My husband watches anything about photography, birding segments, and Unfortunately, also the arrest going through security at airports. My grandsons do gaming all the time and my daughter says that’s the only way that her son can interact with his friends. my granddaughter on the other hand I don’t know what she watches, but I know her phone is always in her hand and so she is actually very socially disconnected to her grandparents, I don’t know if that’s abnormal but anyways that’s the way it is. Great podcast and yes this is another addicted connection.

  • @WillMoon
    @WillMoon Місяць тому +3

    I have some next door neighbors who have an 11 year old boy. Our yards are super small, it’s suburbia after all, but when I was a kid, part of my chores would have been to go and cut the grass once every two weeks. I do that now, just how I maintain my yard. Instead of having their 11 year old do it, these people hired a lawn care service at $45 a month to cut approx 800 square feet of rectangular grass. Kids need to learn how to do work, not just play. And learn about rewards for doing it… being able to go play games was always a reward when I was a kid, not the default.

  • @Golgibaby
    @Golgibaby Місяць тому +4

    Timestamp: 25:14 appreciative of the conversation about chemical addiction versus behavioral addiction. Mahalo for this conversation and the legacy of your work, both of you!

  • @JackKinross
    @JackKinross Місяць тому +2

    Thanks for this Rich, voices like Jonathan's are much needed right now, this is a crucial point in time re regulation.

  • @KolbyKay
    @KolbyKay Місяць тому +4

    Great episode as always Rich! Jonathan’s new book has been an invaluable tool, that I hope will prompt us all to reevaluate the pressures and routines our children face daily. The analogy you discussed about how we grew up in the 90’s is a distant memory in a new day of technology and social media. The street lights illuminating warning after a day of childhood debauchery no longer serves as the curfew reminder it once represented.
    A few things I would add into the equation of where we find ourselves today...
    I've spent the past 5 years researching childhood suicide and patterns for a documentary project. There is a disturbing connection between adolescent mental health and family dynamics, particularly in single-parent or divorced households. These settings often lack crucial emotional and logistical support, exacerbating mental health issues and highlighting the need for stable, nurturing environments for our kids.
    Think of it this way - divorce rates in the USA are 35-50% for first marriages and 60-70% for second ones-adding complexity to family dynamics. Coupled with the rise of a "phone-based childhood," these factors create a challenging landscape not only for our children but also for their digitally-native parents.
    Many young parents, having never known a world without the internet, unknowingly perpetuate a cycle of sleep deprivation, attention fragmentation, and social isolation, all of which Jonathan discusses in his book. These factors are pivotal in the deterioration of mental health among youths and, arguably, adults as well.
    Our brains are simply not equipped to handle the relentless barrage of information, stimulation, and interruptions that characterize modern adult life.
    However, I remain cautiously optimistic that through collective efforts from parents, educators, and policymakers, we can address this crisis and protect our children’s mental health.
    Thank you both for your vital contributions to this conversation.
    Cheers,
    Kolby

  • @lisablanchard8915
    @lisablanchard8915 Місяць тому +3

    Another great conversation given by Rich ,who I believe to be one of the best interviewers of our time...giving answers to the pointed questions allowing the topics to elaborate so we can fully understand...very insightful and informative...your podcast always leaves me inspired Thank You

  • @gk_coach_mario3843
    @gk_coach_mario3843 Місяць тому +6

    This is some horrifying shit… scary proposition for us as parents, specially since we didn’t grow up with this type of technology at our fingertips… we’re in uncharted waters

  • @JaysonsNation
    @JaysonsNation Місяць тому +2

    Philosophy, history, writing and religion need to come back into society. They aren’t worthless. They are essential to understanding ourselves and how to become better than those before us.

  • @renatapaschoal7605
    @renatapaschoal7605 Місяць тому +3

    Thx once more for bringing such a great guest, RR. The Anxious Generation book is my next read. 🔥🥰

  • @camnovak
    @camnovak Місяць тому +2

    this was an incredible podcast. thank you for continuing to put out amazing conversations about so many importand issues

  • @CarolGasses
    @CarolGasses Місяць тому +15

    I’ve named it “popcorn brain”.

  • @ashleyannephd
    @ashleyannephd Місяць тому +2

    Thank you for this insightful conversation, Rich and Jonathan Haidt! Addressing the adverse effects of technology and social media on youth mental health is crucial. Your discussion on hyperconnectivity and proposed solutions opens the door to much-needed awareness and action. Looking forward to exploring more ways to support well-being in today's digital age as I continue my work.

  • @Littlewing.
    @Littlewing. 6 днів тому +1

    Been reading your books since happiness hypothesis and tipping point.
    Thank you for spreading the results of all the research you have been doing over the years.
    Thank you.

  • @ivanak7149
    @ivanak7149 Місяць тому +5

    this is such an eye opener

  • @mountainbuttons
    @mountainbuttons Місяць тому +2

    This is such an important conversation. Fantastic listen, if not an easy one.

  • @pkonneker
    @pkonneker Місяць тому +9

    It makes me super frustrated that the school has given my kids Chromebooks to bring home. I do not want that. Why are we pushing this? It does not make their education better in any substantive way, it's just a way for them to try and sneak screen time after bed and the like.

    • @chocolatemint9225
      @chocolatemint9225 Місяць тому +4

      I’m a parent and teacher at a Chromebook district. Have them do their homework at the kitchen table or where you can see them and then turn it off. Set a time and they turn the machine on to you for the night.

    • @LP-dc7fh
      @LP-dc7fh Місяць тому

      @@chocolatemint9225all these school districts were “gifted” computers by the very companies that want to build a brand with the next generation. What data is being collected by the variety of programs that schools require children to use for testing and mind numbing exercises? Books are better, especially for young children.

    • @courtneylarsen7674
      @courtneylarsen7674 Місяць тому +2

      ok right?! My first grader was given a Chromebook with a game called Prodigy on it. Granted it’s “educational” but my son was 100% addicted to it. Irritable when it was taken away, asked for it all the time, etc. We have a tv with limited screen time but my kids have never been on a tablet or iPad or anything else. I assumed because the school sent it home it must be “ok.” Now I’m deep in research and it compulsory government run schooling and the benefits of homeschooling.

    • @suzanneemerson2625
      @suzanneemerson2625 6 днів тому

      Grow up. Start being a real parent. Sit with your child while he is using his Chromebook, and then put it away when his homework is done. Stop blaming the school because you have raised your child to be a brat, and now you don’t like the results of what you have done. Deal with it.

    • @courtneylarsen7674
      @courtneylarsen7674 6 днів тому

      @@suzanneemerson2625 whoa there...not sure if this comment was intended for me or the OP but...wow. What an aggressive and unnecessary comment. "A real parent"?? "Raised a brat?" Pretty bold statements from a literal stranger reading UA-cam comments hahahaha.

  • @ChronicRachel643
    @ChronicRachel643 Місяць тому +2

    I'm so happy I found your youtube ! Topnotch! 🎉🎉

  • @BrigitteLeroux-eq5wf
    @BrigitteLeroux-eq5wf Місяць тому +4

    In France and Belgium, the phone is not allowed at school! Have a nice day. Brigitte

  • @thepetersfamily6323
    @thepetersfamily6323 Місяць тому +2

    Thanks for this, Rich. Super important for moms, dads, educators and goverment decision makers. I hope this does bring people together to help stop all that is happening to our children. It's absolutely terrible and I honestly wish I'd never allowed my young child onto the internet. Very hard to put the poop back into the horse as they say....cheers

  • @professorkorezi
    @professorkorezi Місяць тому +4

    I'll be getting the book right away

  • @sheri_LA_native
    @sheri_LA_native Місяць тому +2

    Thank you for another very important conversation.

  • @michaeldean2053
    @michaeldean2053 Місяць тому +16

    The genie never goes back in the bottle.

  • @mdoe5568
    @mdoe5568 Місяць тому

    Rich, thanks so much for this informative episode! I am gen X and quit social media >8 yr ago. I am 50, and have 2 kids that didn't get cell phones/ computers until 16 and I am so glad I decided to limit their access. I'm a nurse, so affording the technology was not the issue- more so the concern of stranger danger and unhealthy habits of staring at phone when should be doing other activities. I agree with the new recommended age limits for tech for the safety of kids!

  • @carlovincetti
    @carlovincetti 26 днів тому

    I watched two of these, one more of these in its entirety, I will be obligated to subscribe.

  • @joshram312-el2sm
    @joshram312-el2sm Місяць тому

    thank you for this Jonathan and Rich

  • @saskhiker3935
    @saskhiker3935 Місяць тому +7

    I have a son who is the Iphone generation. Born 2000. In his teens he would have his friends over and they would sit in their room on their phones and not speak to eachother. What was the point of being together is they weren't connecting

    • @suzanneemerson2625
      @suzanneemerson2625 6 днів тому

      In developmental psychology, it’s called “parallel play,” a type of play in which children are playing adjacent to each other, but not actually with each other. It normally occurs between the ages of 24-30 months of age, as children are developing social skills.
      Your child and his friends are seriously developmentally delayed. You might want to have him evaluated by a professional child psychologist.

  • @Diana-dl2ft
    @Diana-dl2ft Місяць тому +4

    I'm 29, didn't have a phone until 16, and I don't use social media but tiktok was the hardest thing to quit even though I didn't post anything. Now I only use YT and it's made a huge difference in my anxiety levels and attention span

  • @marianasalles242
    @marianasalles242 Місяць тому +1

    Precious conversation💚🙏🏻🌍✨

  • @TheChavez1976
    @TheChavez1976 10 днів тому

    Knowledge has become intoxicating

  • @patmuller4461
    @patmuller4461 Місяць тому +8

    I thought that when the internet first came out that we would have world peace and the end of suffering, if we just knew about what was happening, we would do something.

  • @dawn7220
    @dawn7220 Місяць тому +2

    I'm sending this to all of my contacts

  • @Thorny1974
    @Thorny1974 Місяць тому

    I agree 100% with how the phone/media is negatively impacting our children. I am hesitant to agree with the no cell phone at school rule for very selfish reasons. We have had a couple cases where there was gun fire reported near our school and it was very comforting to get a text that everything was okay. I know those cases are very few and far between, but given all of the school violence, there's always a sense of fear looming over parents; and having a way to communicate with a child quickly does help to assuage some of those fears. I would love to hear how Mr. Haidt would respond to those fears.

  • @lebesguegilmar1
    @lebesguegilmar1 16 днів тому

    Muito importante essas informações para os pais, educadores, legisladores e para os jovens também. Muito obrigado. Aqui de Brasil

  • @jcszot
    @jcszot 26 днів тому

    In regards to the parenting if things are such a problem, just take them away. It seems pretty simple to me. When I was 17, I recall a situation where I mouthed off to my father. It was a disrespectful exchange. Well, when I woke up the next morning, my car was up on blocks. Yes my father took the tires off my car and put my vehicle up on cinderblocks. I was stuck until I went back to him and apologized, discussed and cleared up the situation. The entire conflict was extinguished and it never happened again!!!

  • @JOEBOWERY
    @JOEBOWERY Місяць тому +1

    great stuff !

  • @user-uc3qs1gx2d
    @user-uc3qs1gx2d Місяць тому +1

    Started with AOL in the 90s !

  • @figgettit
    @figgettit Місяць тому +1

    empathy is an interest in the details of the social system. It is literally systematising. one thing is for sure, men don't understand how women think or how to explain it.

  • @sedohrj87
    @sedohrj87 Місяць тому +1

    Lol I'm 36 now. But even back when I was 23 I remember having the awareness that little children growing up on social media are test rats. And it's sad because no one was even paying attention.

  • @larryberman3837
    @larryberman3837 Місяць тому +1

    Fascinating discussion. It occurred to me that perhaps a way out of this is to remove the child’s unlimited data plan to a limited data plan that will get used up quickly by these apps. The children will get a little exposure but will also learn the lesson of rationing.

  • @emmamccarter4118
    @emmamccarter4118 5 годин тому

    It's as simple as listening to your kids. We have a generation old enough to tell us how damaging having free range of the internet at 12. Mine just turned 20, she got out alive, but told me how damaging it was for her. It's all about the money! You will never get rid of it just like all the junk food fed to our kids at school. Best you can do is try and give them alternatives like healthy food and non screen time activities which is only about 20 percent of their lives unfortunately unless you can afford a private school.

  • @matthewpirtle8318
    @matthewpirtle8318 Місяць тому

    Spread this Far and Wide…

  • @Jack_all
    @Jack_all Місяць тому +1

    Quitting facebook and social media was harder than quitting cigarettes for me an it took me 10 years and about 21 attempts to quit smoking.

  • @semperfi2974
    @semperfi2974 15 днів тому

    We’ve become hyper protective of our kids and monitor them all the time.. but at the same time have decided kids are too much trouble.. I grew up in the 70’s and 80’s.. we were absolutely feral..

  • @derek4412
    @derek4412 26 днів тому

    I have three small children: ages, 3, 2, and one who will be born next month.
    One of my biggest fears is “losing them“ to social media and screen addiction.
    Luckily, my wife and I have chosen to raise them without screens and social media, and many of our friends are of similar thinking.
    Hopefully this is a trend that keeps gaining traction.
    In the future, giving a kid your phone might be as socially acceptable as giving them a cigarette, if we all do our job to stigmatize it appropriately.

  • @Thelastetherborn
    @Thelastetherborn 5 днів тому

    As long as the tech companies exist in the way they do they’ll never be defeated

  • @BaroloBartolo
    @BaroloBartolo Місяць тому

    I think my eyes nearly rolled into the back of my head 52:58 lmao “economic disparity” … please

  • @TheAnaglyph
    @TheAnaglyph Місяць тому

    I have 4 children who all attend a Waldorf school. I know that not everyone has that privilege, but the schools have a no social media policy through middle school, no phone policy at school and they spend time outside every day, rain or shine. It’s one of the few school pedagogies that applies Dr Haidt’s plan.

  • @rickjaime100
    @rickjaime100 Місяць тому

    I thought there was a clip where they were discussing online dating apps and how destructive they are for adult men and women...but I can't find that section. Any help would be appreciated!

  • @chrisjeanneret5091
    @chrisjeanneret5091 Місяць тому

    There was a radio ad years ago about a summer camp. The tagline was "Give us your kid, we'll send you back a new one." Unfortunately, they later felt the need to add a disclaimer that it was not literally true. People are too literal minded, or perhaps some parents hoped it was literally true!

  • @carlovincetti
    @carlovincetti 26 днів тому

    I was able to realize by just looking at the graphics of video games when they first came to computers, it scared me into never playing video games, just for the fact that I would become addicted through competition, living in my moms basement and she doesn't have one.

  • @Sleepy_Babushka
    @Sleepy_Babushka Місяць тому +1

    We just had our first, he’s 8 months old and I am not allowing him on social media until 16. It’s poison and we all know it.

  • @conorpaulpurcell3403
    @conorpaulpurcell3403 Місяць тому +1

    The corporations behind all this will be judged by history and need to be brought to justice

  • @Gypsisoul1111
    @Gypsisoul1111 Місяць тому +4

    maybe I didn't understand his stance on Social Security, I hope he didn't mean that I am not entitled to every cent I PAID into social security? It is all I have to live on now.

    • @leslieaustin4147
      @leslieaustin4147 Місяць тому +1

      Not to mention that they are now TAXING our social security! What a NASTY surprise for us who have worked hard and now count on this money. SHAME on our government for stealing from us

  • @Jack458111
    @Jack458111 Місяць тому +1

    Really wish I had never used instagram. I think it fucked up my sense of self over the last decade.

  • @HelenSurina-mv8ot
    @HelenSurina-mv8ot 8 днів тому

    Children want their mama and papa. 🎉🎉

  • @PippiBarbieri
    @PippiBarbieri Місяць тому +2

    I wonder what his view is about what is non political journalism - is all the major media outlets non political when it gets money from many addictive consumer products! Drug and food companies are the same companies!

  • @GypsyIrishNewfieNomad
    @GypsyIrishNewfieNomad Місяць тому +4

    Some parents love a built in babysitter and don't give a s$%t ....such a shame. S.M is toxic

  • @jcstuart6978
    @jcstuart6978 Місяць тому

    Way to go America. Monetizing our youth instead of protecting them. We are 15 yrs too late on this - and 95% of knew better.

  • @PureSparkles22
    @PureSparkles22 Місяць тому +5

    They should ban Ipads from school too

  • @sew1what
    @sew1what Місяць тому +4

    How about taking porn off and out of "social" media....uuumm...ya when did it become legal to potentially expose minors to this from emotional sexual assault to a young developing mind. It's the media companies that market our children and ourselves as well.

    • @sew1what
      @sew1what Місяць тому

      We allow it. Thank U sirs for your awesome work. Truly thank you for your service ❤🤍🙏

  • @wertcon
    @wertcon Місяць тому +1

    Excellent interview as usua and guest as usual. BUT, I found a bit of propaganda when talking about "trolls" and "conspiracy theories" and "not sharing my opinions". Where else am I gonna share what I think?

    • @suzanneemerson2625
      @suzanneemerson2625 6 днів тому

      Probably nowhere would be good. Keep you out of trouble.

  • @derek4412
    @derek4412 26 днів тому

    Some studies have shown screen time (TV, laptop, smart phone) is associated with increasing levels of autism. It is not the sole cause, but it seems to be a contributor for the genetically-predisposed, especially for children under the age of eight or nine years old. Something to look into if you have not heard of it.

  • @MarionMM
    @MarionMM Місяць тому +3

    Defending the NTY after their intentional inaccurate make-believe unprofessional reporting on Oct 7th is psychotic.

  • @divalivingston1664
    @divalivingston1664 3 дні тому

    I got off Facebook and Twitter 6 or 7 years ago after the 2016 election because of the fire storms and I was tired of spending my time on them. I'm on LinkedIn because I work and want to be connected to people who present relevant events and access training courses. I'm in a photography group on LI and see quality images by professional or good amateur photographers. I'm a trained photographer so seeing a lot of badly composed or executed photos on other platforms doesn't interest me.

  • @a.wilcox5690
    @a.wilcox5690 Місяць тому +1

    What about giving our kids only flip phones until they are 16?
    But the reality is that kids share social media so the kid with the SmartPhone will share material with your kid.

  • @Jorgerauhltorres
    @Jorgerauhltorres Місяць тому

    The phone is the new babysitter. I see parents often hand over their phone to their kiddos cause it’s the only way they’re able to keep them calm.

  • @HelenSurina-mv8ot
    @HelenSurina-mv8ot 8 днів тому

    when did your hair go white? ❤

  • @greenviolist34
    @greenviolist34 Місяць тому

    I've been very interested in the effects of herd mentality. Is the over sharing of emotions an example of toxic femininity?
    Im not sexist nor transphobic, but I am curious in these fringe and marginal effects that seem to have influence over percentages of the population. .. same vein would be the deification of psychopathy in the corporate world, specifically upper management.
    In light of the obvious nature to capitalism... how effective can self-determination or willpower really be when targeted efforts are made to streamline this dopamine effect in the brain?

  • @dawncolayco9340
    @dawncolayco9340 26 днів тому

    When i see small children need some type of tablet game at a restaurant so they will behave with it . I think it is so parents can hqve fun out to eat without having to give constant attention to their children. Wouldn’t it be important to have time without it on a social occasion. I can see the tune out . Yes the kids are being good pressing buttons . The parents get off scott free to teach the children anything like self control or communication to them . Letting kids have new experiences completely. I understand why people do this but it makes me sad.