You ain't lying. I just permanently deleted my Facebook and Instagram accounts a week ago. I feel so much. @TyroneBiggums789I just unsubscribe from pages that aren't necessary to you. If I can't take what you teach and use it in my life, your page is useless to me. However, UA-cam does try to bait you to subscribe to pages you unsubscribe from. They think they're slick. UA-cam is like someone trying to reintroduce a former drug addict back to drugs after they rehabbed, and fully healed.
As a 30 year old I feel like my generation was the last one to experience normal life in the traditional sense. I remember going to school without smartphones, camera obsession, social media addiction etc. We used to just hang out outdoors and ride our bikes around. We used to actually talk to the people around us at dinner, and know our neighbours intimately. Everything is distant and artificial now.
This is why there are so many shows like Stranger things. IT the movie. Are showing life BEFORE these things. People actually had 'REAL LIFE'. Nowadays I am finding it really HARD to find someone that had time to just HANG OUT. It is that bad now!
Once you stop using social media, you never look back. I feel disgusted when I remember how much time, energy, and effort I used to put into creating an acceptable image of myself for the approval of others. Social media is a cancer.
I DELETED my Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat two years ago and finally got around to physically deleting my Facebook account a few days ago after not having signed in for the last 4 months. I keep UA-cam because it's so interesting with all the documentaries and nature stuff. Also it's good for listening to critical thinkers out there that I think are good - I learn a lot from UA-cam. Two years ago I was an alcoholic, a smoker and used lots of cocaine at the weekend. Since the middle of 2018, I don't drink, at all, don't smoke anything, definitely am drug free and now run marathons at the weekend. Using social media stops you from developing your brain and keeps you in a state where (in your opinion) your life isn't as good as everyone else's. Social Media should come with the same warnings that smoking does.
UA-cam is no different though. Many flat-earthers cite UA-cam as the place where they went down the rabbit hole of ever more extreme conspiracy theories. Ironically it might actually be the advertisers which help this problem, because they're starting to refuse to pay for ads next to extremist content. So on the one hand the advertisers want to take advantage of the sensationalist, attention-grabbing nature of social media, but that very same system also creates a feedback loop of extremism that advertisers don't want to be associated with. It's hypocritical but hopefully it's at least something to prevent society from becoming increasingly paranoid and divisive.
There are some settings where you can turn off targeted ads, and you can clear and stop your watch history. That might help with the issue of UA-cam learning your habits and trying to push you into similar content that keeps you hooked for all the wrong reasons.
I didn't delete my social media immediately after I saw the documentary he's in. But his words stuck with me. I started to see things differently. I saw myself from an outside perspective. I started to realize the Internet is now some sort of US high school - who's the prettiest, the most popular, the coolest. I got off the rat race and I feel so much better. Life is much more than that.
@@pequod4557 same! I got rid of my smartphone last year. I now own a gab phone (no internet). the modern convenience of a smartphone didn't outweigh the negatives. Im glad mine is gone. I can think clearly again
"11 I am not saying this because I am in need, for I have learned to be content whatever the circumstances. 12 I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want. 13 I can do all this through him who gives me strength." Philippians 4:11-13
@Childd Please! There is a contradiction here. Which is, by saying this, you are focusing on what other people are doing. Comparing your current life or status to another's isn't inherently evil, it's when you respond to it in such a way that causes you to behave in a manner that would be detrimental to your psychological health. You can use negative feelings as fuel to motivate you in order to gain positive experiences. In my opinion, a counter part to the issue of social media we currently have is that as a Nation we have lost our values. This in conjunction with manipulation of social media, distorts the public perception of what our trajectory as a nation should be. I don't want to list every example and go into too much depth to be perfectly honest solely because the amount of time it would take, but you can see many anti-consumer practices across many industries. The sole focus for the past few decades has shifted to earning capital. Where as before it was earning capital, but also establishing a brand as opposed to cashing in on one. I've notice this shift in many "creative industries," such as gaming, music, film. Producers of such content now seem more focused on their quarterly reports, than actually earning the respect and trust of there consumers. Meaning they're always looking for the next best trick to milk the cow so to speak, with little regard to cow's well being. Short term, being an important point because consumers can and have wisen up to said practices which in turn sours there relationship with any such company behaving in such a manner. Ultimately ruining the consumer/producer relationship, then harming the producer (EA Games for example) and finally the consumer, because our economy isn't stronger when businesses fail, and the consumer obviously exist with in that economy. In all, I feel this problem stretches far beyond social media, this is a consumer/producer problem brought on in part by the internet changing the rate and ease in which we can exchange information in turn creating a sort of wild west dynamic within the market place. In a time of rapid evolutionary development, it's in our best interest to solve this soon.
Quit FB in 2011 and IG in 2013. I found myself obsessing and lurking on other people's profile and realized how sick that made me feel. I'm so happy I made that decision.
D MXSTRY we are conditioned to see a smart person in a suit not it old rags with dread locks, he’s happy with him self so image ain’t no thing, knowledge is enough for this spiritual fine human being, peace and love all ❤️
Narcissism and voyeurism are two sides of the same coin. These are the twin diseases of modern humanity: "look at me! look at me!" plus "what are they doing over there? what are they doing over there?" Just be in yourself, inhabit what you are doing and stop broadcasting your every innermost thought to the world please everybody.
Nothing can teach you to be a. narcissist. People use this term very freely without knowing what is actually means. Narcisism is a personality disorder and it has nothing to do with taking selfies and social media.
I like spending the day watching videos about self-discipline. That way I can procrastinate with the false sensation of accomplishing stuff I should be doing.
Football Contagion Nonsense. UA-cam is just as bad. It is mostly full of inane garbage, mass advertising, sponsored content, toxic and miserable comment sections, extreme political positions and on and on. They’re all as bad as each other and in my own experience youtube is the most time consuming and has had a bad affect on my psyche.
Susan Wojcicki and the Jewish groups like ADL and SPLC she put in charge of censorship on UA-cam have ruined it. Now UA-cam is looking more and more like mainstream TV. Its non-stop promotion of everything which is undoing the cultural fabric of our societies.
perhaps you could try using youtube without an account? maybe find your favorite channels and keep them in your browser favorites (non google browser?) and disallow the algorithm from getting a read on you. I dont know if that would work but just a thought.
I deleted my Facebook and Insta and everythings... over 6 years ago, never looked back! When I run into people, they say I fell off the map. THANK YOU! Smart people keep their private lives PRIVATE!
I feel sorry for those born around the late 90's and after that haven't experienced life without the internet and social media. While the internet is amazing, it's not the "real world."
probably every boomer in the 1950s: I feel sorry for those born in 1945 and after that haven't experienced life without those blasted televisions. While TVs are amazing, it's not the "real world."
TV is not interactive though. TV is/was a modern version of theater which has existed forever. Social interaction with the world wasn't possible inside the home or at your finger tips and there wasn't total anonymity in daily interactions with strangers. There also wasn't a disconnect that the internet/smart phones provides in person to person interaction. There is a difference. While I appreciate these things immensely and they are great for the world, I also very much appreciate that I got to live my youth without the toxicity inherent in social media in particular.
I agree, I was born in the early 90’s so I just missed the cusp. Smartphones and social media became popular right when I graduated high school. I couldn’t imagine the effects of having platforms like tik tok and instagram or unlimited access to porn in middle and high school. It was already hard enough to just be an oddball teenager.
I strongly agree with him. I gave up all forms of social media platforms about 2 years ago and never looked back. No more phantom rings, no more time wasted scrolling endlessly, no more seeking validation through posts and comments. Best decision I've ever made! Thumbs up if you're with the movement!
I deactivated my social media accounts a few days ago, and honestly the only thing I've missed is being able to ask local friends on facebook how bad the roads are after a recent snowstorm lol.
@@SwissTanuki I know people have different opinions about this, but I don't really consider UA-cam to be social media in the way Facebook, instagram, snapchat, etc, are. To me, UA-cam is more like TV, or visible podcasts - at least, the channels I watch feel like that to me.
UA-cam is social media. There are other users that you can interact with, it has the same addictive algorithms, the same data mining, etc. Not to say I'm any different. I deleted everything too, yet here I am
Rude, but more dumb than rude. Jaron Lanier just spent 20 minutes explaining his views and this is the best that this interviewer can say to sum up and conclude?
Deleted Facebook and IG because it made my depression worse, forever comparing yourself to other people is dangerous. Also the amount of toxicity and narcissism from people these days is increasing. Social media is not just a tool but a weapon.
Geez If you compare yourself to others all the time you will have that problem offline, too. We need to choose online "friends" carefully and zap anyone acting suspiciously, as it were.
do you not understand how an interview works ? he is putting questions forward to him that the audience may be asking at home in order to have answers for anyone that may be moking him. the interviewer should be a conduit for the audience at home and play devils advocate in order to get some balance. do you actually know another about Krishnan Guru-Murthy either? It is normal to ask questions when interviewing someone that may do not aligned with your own views in order to get interesting answers for both sides.
@@lordamercy5609 Murthy isn't some great interviewer that's able to ask challenging questions the viewers at home might want to know, hes a pathetic douche that wants to provoke. Basically no one respects the dude. Look at his other interviews., the one with Rober Downey for instance. Hes incredibly unprofessional. Mistaking his bad faith questions with hard hitting journalism makes me question your ability to be critical of what the news media is shoving down our throats.
Oh, honey....you are wise. Young people like you would gain a lot from putting down their phones & interacting with each other, breathing the fresh air, meditating, creating great things. You can do it..sending love & peace..don't underestimate yourself, please!! There is so much good in this crazy world!!
This is a mainstream idea. Lots of people pat themselves on the back for knowing what they think the rest of the world is "blind" to. If you came to that conclusion through mainstream info, chances are lots of others think the same.
I would listen to this guy explain absolutely anything. He's so good at making you feel not like he's preaching or talking down to you, but genuinely just wants to help you understand what he thinks.
@dani cali no he doesn't, he is BEAUTIFULLY Jewish and has the same hair as me, a black person with nappy afro hair. Jewish and black people are synonymous with one another in many ways, the afro hair, skin, bone structure, longevity etc. I absolutely LOVE them! As well as their amazing intelligence and unique features. He is showcasing his locs in the same way we showcase ours (for those who have them), 'unapologetically' and wholly at one with himself ☘️
Same here, I saw this coming 5 years ago. I don't hear from a lot of my old close friends these days, but I guess that answers the question of if they were actually all that close.
He is so right. A lot of young people nowadays are suffering from anxiety, depression and feeling suscidal because of social media. When we are young and going through the stage of trying to figure ourselves out, social media can become very toxic
@Rhondjé Mohan Singh TanwarI agree.. Who runs the communication rules the world, so it is a magic wand that is posibble to be used for good or bad.. Humanity must make a choise...
Ten years of social media, it's been two months since I deleted them. I feel reborn and alive. I know what is important and not important now. People that don't matter aren't in my life anymore. And I found out who I actually mattered to. No more urges to share everything I do. Total tranquillity and freedom of personal space.
I just deleted my TikTok and I’m about to do the same with my Instagram. I put a message in my Instagram bio letting people know I won’t be on there anymore and to message me for my number. I’m doing a social experiment to see who will message me. I’m genuinely curious who cares about me enough to message me and truly connect with me.
The algorithm knows people cant overcome their addictions. If they could then your point would be spot on. How many quit facebook but then went back on.
celest simmons here’s your round of applause you were looking for 👏 why are you looking for approval comments from strangers on the internet? You a level 2 sheep huh?
@@shaunpierce4174 likely all her friends communicate principally through social media, and she worries about loneliness and isolation if she leaves. Turns out that having a few in depth interactions in person or on the phone with the people you actually care about is more satisfying than having constant shallow interactions with everyone you know, but it don't necessarily look that way from the inside.
Exactly. It's the same reason tv was invented. Pure propaganda mostly; read Edward Bernays' book, (father of. public relations and advertising), "Propaganda," which you can download for free on archive.org. Plus tons of diverse items, and they don't keep track of you, since you don't have to register. Educational and fun online complete library.
anyone who has never had a problem with addiction dones't know the feeling. but now they do. when they leave sm. that;'s why you see so many ppl saying it was the best decsision, they are mroe productive. forced addiction. same with addicts who actually kicked their habit. same things. " iam so much more clear headed, productive, happy, ect"
My blood pressure goes up when I get on social media. I've dumped Facebook and Twitter but I find myself scrolling through UA-cam for hours. I started doing it trying to find real news. But I've really got to cut it back. This guy is right and I despise this interviewer. He seems angry at the truth.
Jaron Lanier is incredible, he’s always so down to earth and calm. It’s just nice to be able to hear someone talk about something that they are passionate about and able to educate on without being in your face, or screaming why he’s right when challenged or asked hard questions! I guess not having social media really does work for keeping people happy!
@@Mariastarotjourneywithme , Yes, this interviewer is known to be antagonistic and unpleasant (in my view).. It was like water off a duck's back to Lanier. He has the demeanor of the Dalai Lama.
It's also an option to be on social media, but not post your whole life to it. I spend a few minutes a day checking messages and notifications, then I move on. Moderation is possible.
"Social media's grip on our lives can lead to financial ruin. It fuels comparison, consumerism, and FOMO, driving impulsive investments and debt. It also spreads misinformation, causing poor investment decisions. Break free from the social media cycle, seek credible sources, and prioritize financial literacy to secure your future."
I agree with you and I believe that the secret to financial stability is having the right investment ideas to enable you earn more money, I don’t know who agrees with me but either way I recommend either real estate or bitcoin and stocks.
I invested 10k in Robin hood and 401k about a year ago and it steadily went down, now my portfolio is down to $800. I don't know what to do and i am in between jobs
@@face2lune Understanding your financial needs and making effective decisions is very essential. If I could advise you, you should seek the help of a financial advisor. For the record, working with one has been the best for my finances.
I’m Glad i stumbled on this. Please, if its not too much of a hassle for you, can you drop the details of the CFP that assisted you and how to get in touch...
I've always had a distaste for this interviewer ever since he interviewed Robert Downey Jr. I think he like poking people with personal attacks to see if he can get a drama show from them. Or maybe he is just an awful person with no filter.
With one answer, this guy was able to: 1) Point out the interviewer's attempt to make him say something bad about a group of people, 2) Place himself as a non-utopian 3) and be charismatic for being thoughtful of his friends. Ouch!
I quit facebook (deleted all my pictures, changed my name, dislike all the pages I liked, erased everything, and closed my account), since October 2017. Now it's June 2018, and my life is way better. I actually can sleep better nowdays. And all of those feelings of anger, sadness, and such... disappeared. We all owe to ourselves, to live a life without facebook.
@Kimberlee Ponson I agree with your general poin. It did seem to me that Krishna was skeptical at the beginning, he was even a bit mocking, however as the interview progressed he started trusting him more. I did find the last question a bit rude though.
f0bez non taken! UA-cam is a 50/50 compared to fb,insta and Twitter. I use UA-cam as a tool and learn lots of cool stuff off it. But yeah it also is a zest pool if you get deep into it!
@@lipreader411 I am thanking the Interwebz Gods as we speak since watching flooring install videos helped me so damn much when doing them this past week!
Did you end up replacing that dopamine hit with something else by chance? It's hard to notice because it is so subtle, for example, getting rid of a FB account replacing that with Instagram or YT or something else? Just curious how was your process and how many accounts were you able to deactivate vs. delete, was it easy/hard/had to call them, etc...
“Just because it’s not on social media doesn’t mean, it did not happen.” I deleted my social media accounts over two years ago and enjoy my achievements and moments for what they are. It meant to be out of touch with some of my clubs and groups. But I realised those who care find ways to keep you in touch with a bit of ‘effort’ from both sides.
@@fiestyseal6541 how do you know that’s what they were trying to do? I genuinely hope that whatever you’re struggling with (knowingly or unknowingly), you get help for.
I deleted most social media after I graduated high school, I started meditating and focusing on my education and it’s brought me a long way. I think tiktok and all these short videos that induce you to this instant gratification will harm you the most and they’re one of the hardest addictions to break out of.
Quit Facebook and Instagram about a month ago, ever since then I’ve felt much more free and relaxed with myself. We all used to be fine without social media, and you don’t need it to stay in touch with people who don’t and won’t stay in contact with you.
@Andrew Cohen I totally agree with your comment. I apply the same principle to regular communication via texts or phone calls. I can count the number of true friends I have on just one hand. Everyone is fake nowadays sadly..
This. Take your dog on a walk, play outside etc. and experience the world - or if you don't have a dog, just get away from social media. Facebook/Instagram etc. are the social/psychological equivalent of consuming nothing but McDonalds. It's bad for the psyche and the soul.
i just wanna say how i love that this man looks like someone that the average person would underestimate but he is so intelligent, calm and well spoken. i feel like the reporter tries to provoke him continuously but he is just so self assured and only interested in sharing his wisdom and not talking down to or controlling anyone.
Chad, I hate to admit it but I thought that for a sec lol I wonder if he just got off Facebook after a 20 hour jaunt? Lol I don’t Facebook but Reddit is crazy
A good interviewer is supposed to play devil's advocate. That's how you get people to talk and layout their whole argument. It's not easy to keep someone talking for over 20 minutes in a conversation, let alone an interview.
@@maninedoow5895 You forget that more and more people grow up and are born after social media was invented. They can't understand what life was without the internet and social media. It changed their whole lives compared to older generations, period. Like fish don't see the water, it's incomprehensible to them how much it changed.
I’m 62, and I love Googling and learning science, medical and Christian sermons, I get depressed when sitting in a medical clinic and everyone has their head in their iPhone instead of paying attention to their surroundings
Ironically...more highschoolers would see him online first and would hold his message in higher regard then just some guy talking in their gym so they can miss class...
Jelle S. absolutely. This man is definately a "rare" and "special" one. He comes across as so humble, but at the same time brilliant. He has something that is rare. The way he delivers his message and answers questions cannot be duplicated. I hope he is making lots of money because he deserves it! : )
Jelle S couldn’t agree more, I’m going to remember his calmness when I’m in a faced with confrontation - love how he states his opinion and the facts around it and is so unfazed, he knows his own mind well and confident in his words
@@victorwilson1337 I thought the same thing until the very end of the interview... the New-Age Hippy question is (I think) just an attack question that you can't possibly answer well if the other party does not believe you. You also can't give a substansive rebuttel to it. If the interviewer was skeptical for arguments sake why would he end on such a low note, why not a more positive ending?
When you hear high level Facebook executives tell you they don't use these tools and don't allow their children to use it, you know there's something wrong with it
also, many of the silicon valley surveillance billionaires, ironically, are themselves the very tech-utopia believers that the interviewer accuses the interviewee of being
That interviewer is honestly awful. Maybe I'm just not used to the British style of interviewing, but it felt so antagonistic and he tried (intentionally or not) to put the interviewee in a bad spot on several occasions. I loved what the interviewee had to say, but almost couldn't watch the vid cause the leading questions were garbage
The interviewer's final comment was crass. The guy set out his position pretty eloquently, and he's a valley insider who understands its motives and methods perfectly. Because Lanier has dreds, a black T shirt and a gentle demeanour he's dismissing him as an idealist utopian. On the positive side a "hippie" got 21 minutes to put across a point that normally gets a 30 second slot between smirks from a male-female news anchor team.
The attack would only come from the small minded who can't get past the way he looks to listen to the things he's saying. Same way as if Lanier said, "you're only asking that because you're an Asian guy in a suit". It's unnecessary. Lanier is an expert in his field, and lots of cutting edge computer guys who build the world we inhabit look like homeless people.
So, the moral Borderlands....RESPECT Homeless people. They seem to have worked out the world.I sat and shared my dinner with one last week. Beyond doubt, he was possibly one of the sharpest razors in the pack...and then some. Anybody can find themselves homeless. I was there during the eighties. Always fascinates me about some folk's great memories of the eighties. Mine were sh*t...as were most of my friend's lives. Maybe folk forget the bad times too easily. Pushed me into becoming a published pro songwriter...WITH A VOICE..hence... """ DAYS OF AUSTERITY """ Verse 1 Flashy cars are passing me, In these days of austerity, ..Which make no sense at all, Pre-chorus. Ohh..how can the rich have a ball??, When most of us starve or fall, And can barely afford food, Or anything... good, ..God, it makes no sense at all. CHORUS IF YOU CAN HEAR ME,..HEAR ME!!!!, IT'S TOUGH TRYING TO BREATHE..NEARLY, LET ALONE, SURVIVE, IT SEEMS, AND A LITTLE UNDERSTANDING, AND A LITTLE UNDERSTANDING, MIGHT HELP...PLEASE. Verse 2 These scars are breaking through, This skin of mine, once tough, And which takes some getting use to, It takes some getting used to. PRE- CHORUS here again. CHORUS here again. BRIDGE/MIDDLE EIGHT. AS FOR ENCOURAGEMENT, MR GOVERNMENT, Maybe you could ration, A little compassion, Once in a while, It could be fashioned, With a little tongue lashing, But not like your..current style. CHORUS here again. Finito. Copyrighted(Sonic Foxx Music)
He’s spot on I quit all social media except for UA-cam. 2 years ago it’s not only a massive sense of freedom but I actually live now in the real world not a virtual reality
My depression is so so much more manageable and hasn’t come back since I quit Instagram. It was confusing because when I went out on the tube or anywhere I didn’t see people living a glamorous life having brunch at stunning cafes with their friends who were perfect, I saw real people in the real world doing their work, playing with their kids or scolding them, having a quick coffee in baggy clothes in a boring mug on a boring table, I didn’t see people with amazing makeup but I saw people with scars and casual hair and clothes being perfectly content with everything. Then on insta I just saw this universe that doesn’t really exist, it was so disorienting and I realised my mental health would only get better when I got back into the real world and wasn’t perpetuating or buying into the whole ‘make your life perfect or at least make it appear like it’s perfect’ thing!
I was born in 97, from what i experienced in school, aim, myspace and fb made people social, it was INSTAGRAM that ruined everything in 10th grade, the power it gave to girls, facebook was less serious more fun app
It really is an example of the power of propaganda. The US populus has been intentionally dumbed downed and demoralized for >4 generations. We are watching the sophomoric fall out now. It's crazy how easily people are manipulated and triggered to fight with each other against their own best interests in support of rich corrupt politicians telling them the lies they've been conditioned to accept as truth.
I realised 8 years ago that the very moment I woke up I had to scroll through my news feed on Facebook and found myself repeating that action every half hour. After a while I found the platform becoming very toxic and shown a very ugly side to humanity so I deleted my account and never used it again.
Got to the age of 28 before I realised how much time I had pissed away staring at some variation of an electronic screen. Facebook gone, UA-cam minimal, video games when I've earned a break...taking up outdoor hobbies now and I am loving it. Wish I did it sooner. Can't recommend it enough.
In the same boat, here... Except I realized it at 27. :\ I genuinely feel like I wasted so much of my life on social media with nothing to show for it.
Same here!! Except I didn't delete my FB account I just let it dormant for like 6-8 months and then log on just to see how bad it is and how I hate it. Sad I need it to keep some of my contacts but I just don't use it. I agree, so much time of my life wasted. I now enjoy every minute of it, in real life.
Bro... As a kid in the 50's we built tons of Balsa, stick and paper, rubber powered aircraft models. Especially fun now, and way satisfying watching them fly. A confidence builder for kids and gets them off the electronic beast. They have to actually think. A new experience in some ways. Folded paper planes are cool too. And this: ua-cam.com/video/DPGDAZyQ44k/v-deo.html
I am continually amazed at this man's sense of ethical considerations, (un)common sense, and his ability to sound more 'amused' than frustrated... AND with simple ways of achieving better outcomes. Thank you Jaron - and anyone that's aired or interviewed him. 🙏
I deleted my all social media accounts over a year ago and I've never felt happier. Instead of talking to friends through a screen, I go and see them. Instead of going somewhere beautiful and thinking about my Instagram I just enjoy it; this is how life should be lived.
UA-cam's algorithms have put me in touch with all sorts of really cool stuff I hadn't considered, but which complement my existing interests. Including this Jaron Lanier dude. I have to help the algorithms by telling them that something they suggest is not of interest to me, but their over all effect has been benign in my experience.
katyavideos where did you get western or atheist from ? I’m Indian and a spiritualist, self employed and answer to no one. You may want to rethink how you ‘try’ to read people because your failing miserably. For the record, I already thought this belief system before I found this video, my comment referred to him looking like a hippy !
I don't use instagram or Facebook they are filled with weird stuff mostly Facebook and I am addicted to discord now due to lockdown I don't know how or what should I do 😔 now I have a server with 3.8k+ members including my online friends
People say I'm weird because I don't have a Facebook or Instagram account. But I don't miss 'em at all. Actually, the simple idea of thinking about showing myself to millions of people, makes me scared.
Everyone I know thinks I'm so weird cause I feel this way. I feel addicted to the point that I'm downgrading from a smart phone to a flip phone. I don't wanna be connected anymore. It's legitimately ruining the world.
I've seriously been tempted to do the same. I wonder just how much of my life I've wasted on my smartphone. Time is long overdue for some soul searching.
I got rid of social media about 5 years ago and my life had changed so much for the better. I feel so much more at peace and like I am living my life for myself again.💖
I hung out with Jaron one evening in VR after he did a presentation, and he seems like the nicest guy you would ever want to meet. Our conversation centered around my being a recovered alcoholic of 35 years, that suddenly realized that Facebook was triggering my addiction processes. I was an early adopter of Facebook, and started to experience extreme sadness every time I was on Facebook. I quit Facebook back in 2016, and have never regretted it.
I was acquainted with Jaron Lanier, back in the 1990s, when writing for legendary Mondo 2000 magazine. He was always such a nice and calm guy. You would never even know that he was a super-genius because he's so affable and down to earth. Good musician too. I think it's great that he's delivering this message. I am not a computer tech, but was a very early adopter of these tools, and champion of the Internet, worked in SF in the dot com era and so on. True believer. I'm very disenchanted now. I remember the Internet before advertising and social media took it over. It was just pure information. Early social media was fun but then it started to change. I realized that I had gone most of my life without knowing what my friends thought about every single issue in the news. I realized further that this was a good thing It just wasn't the substance of our lives. We played music together, or were rooommates, or traveled, or went clubbing, or thrift-shopping. We had some shared interest or activity and that's what we connected on. It's not that we weren't politically engaged, in fact many of us, including me, were going to protests and so on. But this examining of everything that's going on "out there" all the time, constantly every day and arguing about Palestine with people calling themselves Nockolodeon Batwing or whatever, and you suddenly become aware that you have no idea whose mind you're trying to change on this important issue. NO! We did not do this. So with FB and reconnecting with people from my past a few years ago when I moved back to the US from Europe, I was shocked to discover that I found myself suddenly totally at odds with a large number of my old buddies. Not so much because we might have different opinions on things, but because I was shocked at just how many opinions they had on so many frikking things, about which they obviously knew very little! I'd done professional work in political stuff in the UK, and had gotten to the point where I just didn't engage in discussion or debate on any issues other than ones I'd committed to studying and understanding, like cannabis law reform. I'd also given up street protest in disgust at the wide-ranging variety of reasons for people's attendance, not enough of them in true service to the issue at hand, and many deliberately combative and uninformed. So it was really an affront to me, on a number of levels, to suddenly be bombarded with this avalanche of uninformed opinion, especially from people who had spent the preceding few decades getting their lives totally comfortable, and were now acting from a place of security and in some cases, kind of guilt-tripping me about not taking to the streets and being quite cynical about things like Occupy and its chances of effecting real and lasting change. I resented the assumption that we were all on the same page because we were all old friends, but mostly I resented having to have these discussions. I found myself getting sucked into pointless debates for hours at a time. I would get angry, or outraged, or disgusted. My opinions of my old friends took a serious nosedive as I observed their increasingly narcissistic displays of wealth or achievment, endless pictures of their offspring, and boasts of their successes or their beauty or whatever, and even more sickeningly, a growing tendency in myself to be disappointed if I didn't get a certain number of likes on a picture of my latest culinary creation. I de-activated in 2016 and stayed off FB for 3 years. In 2019, I became seriously ill and at the urging of my sister who was running a campaign for me, I got back on FB and briefly saw its good side again as people came out of the woodworks to give me some support. At the same time, I was sobered by the "friends" who didn't and it wasn't long before my viewing of FB became a regular thing again and I was once more confounded, irritated, annoyed, and triggered by the avalanche of political and social opinion, often presented in such a way that almost dared one to disagree and be branded an asshole. This time when I went off FB I deleted my account. Unfortunately, the way the world is you actually need an account in order to log in to some other websites so I had to create a new one, but it is purely for that purpose. I have one friend and never read or post anything. Life is better and I am sad for the people I know who waste their time on FB, especially on political stuff. That has to be the world's most useless activity. People whose minds have been changed by a FB post, must surely be countable on one hand. My two cents. Thanks for reading.
I've been off social media (Twitter, Facebook, Instagram) for some time. I've been a college professor for the last twenty years, but before doing so, I had worked as a programmer and systems analyst for seven years. I got out of the field because I found myself having to think like a computer to program a computer. It didn't work for me. I've also found social media to be more abrasive and contentious than I imagined. I tried to open up communication and discussion, but most people want to be either overly simplistic or utterly annoying and little in between. I prefer real people not hardware or software, but humanware. Stay human, people.
I bought his book on August 2019 and i did not pay attention at all. Now I am re-reading it and I can not believe it. Every word is gold. How blind was I.
The worse part of social media is the FOMO that develops.. news flash, you are missing more in life by being on there. Been off for two and a half years. My overall happiness is increased exponentially
Derwood Ellington I deleted Snapchat, Instagram and Facebook, I’m 17, used to always compare my life to others and go down rabbit holes and sit on my phone for hours. This has all stopped. I am a much happier person 👍🏼
Nothing of this world is good for us, social media, junk food, fizzy drinks, and online dating. Nothing has any staying power. People have no friendships or relationships anymore. No wonder everyone is cranky and depressed!
I agree. I'm broken. I wouldn't even be able to just hang out with a girl like you and not try to eventually make a move. The last time I just hung out with women without having any sexual inclinations towards them was my freshmen year of high school. Right before I joined social media.
Social Media is one of those things where it's hard to realize how miserable it makes you until you actually quit.
How do I quit UA-cam though ? 😂 I’m more hooked on this than instagram and tik tok
Yes
You ain't lying. I just permanently deleted my Facebook and Instagram accounts a week ago. I feel so much. @TyroneBiggums789I just unsubscribe from pages that aren't necessary to you. If I can't take what you teach and use it in my life, your page is useless to me. However, UA-cam does try to bait you to subscribe to pages you unsubscribe from. They think they're slick. UA-cam is like someone trying to reintroduce a former drug addict back to drugs after they rehabbed, and fully healed.
So true lol 9 days since deactivating instagram, and I realize how programmed and hypnotized i was to keep posting and stay updated to the app.
@@TyroneBiggums789youtube is more educational for me than keeping up with individuals.
If you don't have to pay for the product, it means you are the product.
Good one,
Exactly HOW
True that
Nice, I'll remember that
mind = blown
As a 30 year old I feel like my generation was the last one to experience normal life in the traditional sense. I remember going to school without smartphones, camera obsession, social media addiction etc.
We used to just hang out outdoors and ride our bikes around. We used to actually talk to the people around us at dinner, and know our neighbours intimately. Everything is distant and artificial now.
Tv is satanic mind control over the ego via fear like all politics and war
All spiritual frequency lowering
No mas
Moses is here
This is why there are so many shows like Stranger things. IT the movie. Are showing life BEFORE these things. People actually had 'REAL LIFE'. Nowadays I am finding it really HARD to find someone that had time to just HANG OUT. It is that bad now!
Yeah dude Im 36 and I totally agree!
Totally agree
yep in highschool we used to bring weed, alcohol, and smoking in class
Once you stop using social media, you never look back. I feel disgusted when I remember how much time, energy, and effort I used to put into creating an acceptable image of myself for the approval of others. Social media is a cancer.
Same here. It’s been one year and I don’t want to ever go back.
I never manipulated my image or life and it was horrible so smart decision
Very well stated.... right here on social media.🤣
Right on.
👍☕️
I DELETED my Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat two years ago and finally got around to physically deleting my Facebook account a few days ago after not having signed in for the last 4 months. I keep UA-cam because it's so interesting with all the documentaries and nature stuff. Also it's good for listening to critical thinkers out there that I think are good - I learn a lot from UA-cam.
Two years ago I was an alcoholic, a smoker and used lots of cocaine at the weekend.
Since the middle of 2018, I don't drink, at all, don't smoke anything, definitely am drug free and now run marathons at the weekend.
Using social media stops you from developing your brain and keeps you in a state where (in your opinion) your life isn't as good as everyone else's. Social Media should come with the same warnings that smoking does.
good decision.
UA-cam is no different though. Many flat-earthers cite UA-cam as the place where they went down the rabbit hole of ever more extreme conspiracy theories. Ironically it might actually be the advertisers which help this problem, because they're starting to refuse to pay for ads next to extremist content. So on the one hand the advertisers want to take advantage of the sensationalist, attention-grabbing nature of social media, but that very same system also creates a feedback loop of extremism that advertisers don't want to be associated with. It's hypocritical but hopefully it's at least something to prevent society from becoming increasingly paranoid and divisive.
There are some settings where you can turn off targeted ads, and you can clear and stop your watch history. That might help with the issue of UA-cam learning your habits and trying to push you into similar content that keeps you hooked for all the wrong reasons.
Wow. So true.
@Gingerbreadman GanjaFarmer I agree and I don't say otherwise. There are positives and negatives, and it's about trying to reduce the negatives.
I didn't delete my social media immediately after I saw the documentary he's in. But his words stuck with me. I started to see things differently. I saw myself from an outside perspective. I started to realize the Internet is now some sort of US high school - who's the prettiest, the most popular, the coolest. I got off the rat race and I feel so much better. Life is much more than that.
Well said
Can yoi name the doc ? Thanks !
@@runwitscissors00 I think it's "The Social Dilemma"
You still have UA-cam that's a social media.
Me too, I feel like the most people want to show how special and diferrent they are.
And if you aren't a part of this game, you don't exist.
Social media was supposed to bring everyone together, instead it is quite literally ripping us apart.
"Social media was supposed to bring everyone together" lol
literally? bruh am i about to get torn up like a piece of paper
You’re tearing me apart, Lisa!
No media is designed to bring people together
In boxing the fight starts by bringing the boxers together! Goes for other combat sports too.
This interview has aged well. Many who would've dismissed it 5 years ago would have come to realize how true this guy is.
Facts I'm surprised Jaron isn't Jake Paul or Gary Valnervayshayakayshak whatever his name is. Tbh
I broke free from social media, I only use my Apple watch and my laptop for work. that's it. no smartphone.
@@pequod4557 same! I got rid of my smartphone last year. I now own a gab phone (no internet). the modern convenience of a smartphone didn't outweigh the negatives. Im glad mine is gone. I can think clearly again
@@JAMBI..Why are you surprised that he's not the 2 people you mentioned?
Oh boy, 35 now. First saw it ages ago. Should've listened then 😅
Many people would have happier lives without looking at what others are doing. FOCUS ON YOU. Be content with yourself.
Yes!!!!!
"11 I am not saying this because I am in need, for I have learned to be content whatever the circumstances. 12 I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want. 13 I can do all this through him who gives me strength." Philippians 4:11-13
I would say you should still look at good people and learn from them.
Well said. I miss the good ole days when there wasn't any such thing as the internet people actually seen each other n not just text etc..
@Childd Please! There is a contradiction here. Which is, by saying this, you are focusing on what other people are doing. Comparing your current life or status to another's isn't inherently evil, it's when you respond to it in such a way that causes you to behave in a manner that would be detrimental to your psychological health. You can use negative feelings as fuel to motivate you in order to gain positive experiences. In my opinion, a counter part to the issue of social media we currently have is that as a Nation we have lost our values. This in conjunction with manipulation of social media, distorts the public perception of what our trajectory as a nation should be. I don't want to list every example and go into too much depth to be perfectly honest solely because the amount of time it would take, but you can see many anti-consumer practices across many industries. The sole focus for the past few decades has shifted to earning capital. Where as before it was earning capital, but also establishing a brand as opposed to cashing in on one. I've notice this shift in many "creative industries," such as gaming, music, film. Producers of such content now seem more focused on their quarterly reports, than actually earning the respect and trust of there consumers. Meaning they're always looking for the next best trick to milk the cow so to speak, with little regard to cow's well being. Short term, being an important point because consumers can and have wisen up to said practices which in turn sours there relationship with any such company behaving in such a manner. Ultimately ruining the consumer/producer relationship, then harming the producer (EA Games for example) and finally the consumer, because our economy isn't stronger when businesses fail, and the consumer obviously exist with in that economy. In all, I feel this problem stretches far beyond social media, this is a consumer/producer problem brought on in part by the internet changing the rate and ease in which we can exchange information in turn creating a sort of wild west dynamic within the market place. In a time of rapid evolutionary development, it's in our best interest to solve this soon.
Quit FB in 2011 and IG in 2013. I found myself obsessing and lurking on other people's profile and realized how sick that made me feel. I'm so happy I made that decision.
So why are u on UA-cam tho ?
Real Never leave UA-cam is kind of like TV in my opinion there’s very limited exposure of a person on UA-cam profiles
YES!..... so much happier I quit FB.....I dont stalk my ex anymore......that got me sooooooo depressed.
So who care ??
@@congosrevolution8625 apparently you do since u replied to this comment twice
They put him up here to make him look mad BUT HE TALKS TRUTH
D MXSTRY and professional with how he says it
Trust! he’s talking big facts!!
Why did you asum hes mad ?
@@adnanrifaie4604 His appearance duh which he chose and the channel didn't tell him to look like that.
D MXSTRY we are conditioned to see a smart person in a suit not it old rags with dread locks, he’s happy with him self so image ain’t no thing, knowledge is enough for this spiritual fine human being, peace and love all ❤️
Seeing parents look delighted when they put a smartphone in their infant's hands because it stops them crying breaks my heart.
Exactly! It is sad :(
"But I don't want them to be naive when they go online." Was the answer I got from one mother. She has a point... but...
Yes, it’s awful.
So sad
Not good parenting in my eyes
Facebook and Instagram teaches people to be narcissist and insecure at the same time.
Narcissism and voyeurism are two sides of the same coin. These are the twin diseases of modern humanity: "look at me! look at me!" plus "what are they doing over there? what are they doing over there?" Just be in yourself, inhabit what you are doing and stop broadcasting your every innermost thought to the world please everybody.
@@dianarosalindland1566 I agree with you.
Nothing can teach you to be a. narcissist. People use this term very freely without knowing what is actually means. Narcisism is a personality disorder and it has nothing to do with taking selfies and social media.
Narcs are the epitomy of insecure
@@cookie_dough_hangover You're right, but I do believe the narcs are drawn to instagram.
I like spending the day watching videos about self-discipline. That way I can procrastinate with the false sensation of accomplishing stuff I should be doing.
Lol
Ha ha..so relatable..
lol!
Ahhhh so I’m not alone, shows that I’m on the right path... my fellow procrastinators say *hooohah*
Self-discipline? Or self-delusion?
I'm confident I can quit Facebook and twitter etc, however quiting UA-cam is much much harder for me personally
Loading Gamez it's how we get information🤓
UA-cam isn't as harmful
Football Contagion Nonsense. UA-cam is just as bad. It is mostly full of inane garbage, mass advertising, sponsored content, toxic and miserable comment sections, extreme political positions and on and on. They’re all as bad as each other and in my own experience youtube is the most time consuming and has had a bad affect on my psyche.
Susan Wojcicki and the Jewish groups like ADL and SPLC she put in charge of censorship on UA-cam have ruined it. Now UA-cam is looking more and more like mainstream TV. Its non-stop promotion of everything which is undoing the cultural fabric of our societies.
perhaps you could try using youtube without an account? maybe find your favorite channels and keep them in your browser favorites (non google browser?) and disallow the algorithm from getting a read on you.
I dont know if that would work but just a thought.
I deleted my Facebook and Insta and everythings... over 6 years ago, never looked back!
When I run into people, they say I fell off the map. THANK YOU!
Smart people keep their private lives PRIVATE!
🔥❤️
I once did as well for about three years. Best days of my life cause you just focus on your own self
Right 💯
Love the way this guy carries himself and debates. It's a beautiful thing to watch him calmly address every question with love and wisdom.
Totally agree with you
Perfectly stated
I think he is a reincarnation of a Saadhu from the Himalayas.... those dreadlocks, that calmness... the wheel of Karma got him here.
Great comment, my feeling exactly
Thanks David!
I feel sorry for those born around the late 90's and after that haven't experienced life without the internet and social media. While the internet is amazing, it's not the "real world."
probably every boomer in the 1950s: I feel sorry for those born in 1945 and after that haven't experienced life without those blasted televisions. While TVs are amazing, it's not the "real world."
TV is not interactive though. TV is/was a modern version of theater which has existed forever. Social interaction with the world wasn't possible inside the home or at your finger tips and there wasn't total anonymity in daily interactions with strangers. There also wasn't a disconnect that the internet/smart phones provides in person to person interaction. There is a difference. While I appreciate these things immensely and they are great for the world, I also very much appreciate that I got to live my youth without the toxicity inherent in social media in particular.
But the internet does show the real person.
Perhaps it brings out the negative in a person that would otherwise be dormant if there was no internet?
I agree, I was born in the early 90’s so I just missed the cusp. Smartphones and social media became popular right when I graduated high school. I couldn’t imagine the effects of having platforms like tik tok and instagram or unlimited access to porn in middle and high school. It was already hard enough to just be an oddball teenager.
I strongly agree with him. I gave up all forms of social media platforms about 2 years ago and never looked back. No more phantom rings, no more time wasted scrolling endlessly, no more seeking validation through posts and comments. Best decision I've ever made!
Thumbs up if you're with the movement!
I deactivated my social media accounts a few days ago, and honestly the only thing I've missed is being able to ask local friends on facebook how bad the roads are after a recent snowstorm lol.
And yet here you are.. I don't blame you. I stopped Facebook but I really enjoy UA-cam.
@@SwissTanuki I know people have different opinions about this, but I don't really consider UA-cam to be social media in the way Facebook, instagram, snapchat, etc, are. To me, UA-cam is more like TV, or visible podcasts - at least, the channels I watch feel like that to me.
Except UA-cam......... Me too lol
UA-cam is social media. There are other users that you can interact with, it has the same addictive algorithms, the same data mining, etc. Not to say I'm any different. I deleted everything too, yet here I am
This guy is so educated and kind. He handled that interview like butter.
'Are you a new age hippie?' - what a rude thing to say. The man is literally educating you.
Yeah, this guy comes off as belittling
"Are you just a" people love to slap people who stand out, with a label
this interviewer is always rude, watch him interview Robert Downey Jr
So gracious tho, and ends on great laughter*
Rude, but more dumb than rude. Jaron Lanier just spent 20 minutes explaining his views and this is the best that this interviewer can say to sum up and conclude?
Deleted Facebook and IG because it made my depression worse, forever comparing yourself to other people is dangerous. Also the amount of toxicity and narcissism from people these days is increasing. Social media is not just a tool but a weapon.
I agree with you 100%
Dont attach depression by saying "my", it isnt, just happens, observe it.
It was all prophesied in the Book of Revelation. Have you seen the video of the selfie girls at the Baseball game? Check it out.
VERY TRUE.
Geez If you compare yourself to others all the time you will have that problem offline, too. We need to choose online "friends" carefully and zap anyone acting suspiciously, as it were.
I think we need to go back to basics. Family time, volunteer work. Live unselfish lives.
I agree! It's the road to happiness, definitely.
Thinks that may be gone be hard to break this trend but I agree with u
Live unselfish but not selflessly
Silver Girl and finding God ❤️
Also back to flip phones.
The irony of social media is that it disconnects people from reality
it also disconnects people by making them fight each other, radicalize, break long standing friendships over stupid online arguments, etc.
that's so true BUT I STILL USE IT😭
Escapism is a drug
People willingly disconnect themselves, you can ethier pick it up, or put down.
@@kortisbraun9798 People cannot put it down once they pick it up.
This guy was amazing at keeping calm and getting his point across without falling for any of the interviewer's provocations
The interviewer is not intelligent enough to throw this guy off...not by a long shot.
do you not understand how an interview works ?
he is putting questions forward to him that the audience may be asking at home in order to have answers for anyone that may be moking him.
the interviewer should be a conduit for the audience at home and play devils advocate in order to get some balance.
do you actually know another about Krishnan Guru-Murthy either?
It is normal to ask questions when interviewing someone that may do not aligned with your own views in order to get interesting answers for both sides.
@@lordamercy5609 Murthy isn't some great interviewer that's able to ask challenging questions the viewers at home might want to know, hes a pathetic douche that wants to provoke. Basically no one respects the dude. Look at his other interviews., the one with Rober Downey for instance. Hes incredibly unprofessional. Mistaking his bad faith questions with hard hitting journalism makes me question your ability to be critical of what the news media is shoving down our throats.
that's never the intent of an interview. it's not a debate. the interviewer asks stupid normie questions for a reason.
Yes these interviewers love to try and get one to take the bait and abandon their argument…very true
Social media is SO toxic, wish more people really understood this. Because everyone nowadays, especially the young like me, are so blinded.
Oh, honey....you are wise. Young people like you would gain a lot from putting down their phones & interacting with each other, breathing the fresh air, meditating, creating great things. You can do it..sending love & peace..don't underestimate yourself, please!! There is so much good in this crazy world!!
He ain't lying my sista and them be so into social media they don't pay attention to nothing people take all they problems to social media
amen!
This is a mainstream idea. Lots of people pat themselves on the back for knowing what they think the rest of the world is "blind" to. If you came to that conclusion through mainstream info, chances are lots of others think the same.
@@222browneyes chances are, if youre not actually letting the internet be your entire experience... You wouldnt say "clever" things like this
I would listen to this guy explain absolutely anything. He's so good at making you feel not like he's preaching or talking down to you, but genuinely just wants to help you understand what he thinks.
Yeah, I agree with you. I like him a lot. He explains things in a way that is easy to understand, using a high level vocabulary.
he invented Virtual Reality if you didn't know. He has lots of good interviews.
That skeptical "new age hippie" question/accusation was harsh!!! He handled it so well. I love this man 😂😍💯
i think the key word here is "feel."
@dani cali no he doesn't, he is BEAUTIFULLY Jewish and has the same hair as me, a black person with nappy afro hair.
Jewish and black people are synonymous with one another in many ways, the afro hair, skin, bone structure, longevity etc. I absolutely LOVE them! As well as their amazing intelligence and unique features.
He is showcasing his locs in the same way we showcase ours (for those who have them), 'unapologetically' and wholly at one with himself ☘️
I admire people who respond to complex, multifaceted questions with simple, intelligible, well thought-out arguments that are not overly simplistic.
I quit social media 5 years ago, when I was 18, I just live my life simply , carefree, and improving my skills.
UA-cam is social media
It’s really hard for people that were teens basically brought up into this stuff.
Well done D ! I'm just on FB got rid of the rest.
Wow...good for you
Good for you D. How did you do it being so young?
I left fb 4 years ago. I will never go back.
Monica C - me too. Said goodbye to Instagram today
Monica C I dislike social media n don't need nor use any !
there are others?!
LOL is Facebook! :) @The Nezk
Same here, I saw this coming 5 years ago. I don't hear from a lot of my old close friends these days, but I guess that answers the question of if they were actually all that close.
He is so right. A lot of young people nowadays are suffering from anxiety, depression and feeling suscidal because of social media. When we are young and going through the stage of trying to figure ourselves out, social media can become very toxic
Preachhhhhh
this is not because of social media its beacuse of their ignorent parents the governments steal their future.
Tamika Arnold you speak nothing but facts
@Rhondjé Mohan Singh TanwarI agree.. Who runs the communication rules the world, so it is a magic wand that is posibble to be used for good or bad.. Humanity must make a choise...
Tamika Arnold that conversation goes both way
When people abandon their social media, win win. Never heard a single one regret it !
Ten years of social media, it's been two months since I deleted them. I feel reborn and alive. I know what is important and not important now. People that don't matter aren't in my life anymore. And I found out who I actually mattered to. No more urges to share everything I do. Total tranquillity and freedom of personal space.
I feel like I’m at the tipping point...
Very inspiring thank you
Thank you! True!
I just deleted my TikTok and I’m about to do the same with my Instagram. I put a message in my Instagram bio letting people know I won’t be on there anymore and to message me for my number. I’m doing a social experiment to see who will message me. I’m genuinely curious who cares about me enough to message me and truly connect with me.
He's 60??? Holy, I mean he doesn't look particularly young but he gives off such a warm, vibrant energy
@Gizmo Allwin LOL no 48 year old looks this bad, except maybe Donnie Jr.
I didn't recognize him at first, he looks terrible. I remember him as the virtual reality guy.
He's a typical Taurus
LaDolcevita found the Instagram addict
This guy may not know that he helped create the false world of the beast system. He needs Jesus.
This guy talked me out of Facebook two years ago. Best thing I ever did. Thank you jaron lanier 🙏
Jaron Lanier is the wise wizard of the internet 🙂 We all need to listen to him. For real .
the algorithm recommended this video. the algorithm wants to end itself.
jake nell The machine is bleeding to death
The algorithm knows people cant overcome their addictions. If they could then your point would be spot on. How many quit facebook but then went back on.
he got intelligent and now he realised he's an asshole and wants to commit suicide xD
Maybe we should end ourselves too
My thoughts exactly !
came for the dreadlocks, stayed because this guy is incredibly well spoken and intelligent
this is Jaron Lanier, he's a famous technologist....
He was friends with Richard Feynman!
@@MeppyMan Is he a zionist?.
@Paul Owen and utterly HIDEOUS-looking! I literally had to look away to follow what he was saying.
fuckyea
I left Facebook, snapchat, and IG.....I dont miss this poison at all.
UA-cam is different tho you can watch educational videos
celest simmons Twitter is better
celest simmons here’s your round of applause you were looking for 👏 why are you looking for approval comments from strangers on the internet? You a level 2 sheep huh?
Amen me too
Liam Wood why are you so angry? Did you really have to write a paragraph you negative rat?
5 years strong without the social garbage media. I honestly never missed it and I'm happy.
That's awesome but youtube is also part SM especially the comment section ;)
Isn't UA-cam comment considered social media garbage?
@@kaliplaya86 no, idk about you but I only tend to watch educational videos and sports highlights.
Good points @DeathAdder7
@@amazinggrace313ads and algorithms run our lives.
So sad, my daughter looks at movies from the 80s and 90s and wishes today was like then because she feels trapped by social media.
me too
I grew up in the 70s/80s and I miss them too......
She can escape. I haven't been on facebook in 5 years.
What's stopping her from leaving social media completely?
@@shaunpierce4174 likely all her friends communicate principally through social media, and she worries about loneliness and isolation if she leaves. Turns out that having a few in depth interactions in person or on the phone with the people you actually care about is more satisfying than having constant shallow interactions with everyone you know, but it don't necessarily look that way from the inside.
Social media encourages anti-social behaviour.
🤦♀️☹️
Not really. Block the trolls and other uncivilized beasts.
And block all mainstream media garbage.
sweiland75 yes, and I now refer to myself as a social idiot and I wasn't like that before social media!🤦🏾♀️
@@ayetam_aye What is a social idiot, what are the traits?
Social media is a "drug" that is designed to be addictive. Anyone who liberates themselves from these shackles is to be congratulated.
Exactly. It's the same reason tv was invented. Pure propaganda mostly; read Edward Bernays' book, (father of. public relations and advertising), "Propaganda," which you can download for free on archive.org. Plus tons of diverse items, and they don't keep track of you, since you don't have to register. Educational and fun online complete library.
anyone who has never had a problem with addiction dones't know the feeling. but now they do. when they leave sm. that;'s why you see so many ppl saying it was the best decsision, they are mroe productive. forced addiction. same with addicts who actually kicked their habit. same things. " iam so much more clear headed, productive, happy, ect"
Yet here you are
@@levonteking5040 lol yt isn't social media.
My blood pressure goes up when I get on social media. I've dumped Facebook and Twitter but I find myself scrolling through UA-cam for hours. I started doing it trying to find real news. But I've really got to cut it back. This guy is right and I despise this interviewer. He seems angry at the truth.
Jaron Lanier is incredible, he’s always so down to earth and calm. It’s just nice to be able to hear someone talk about something that they are passionate about and able to educate on without being in your face, or screaming why he’s right when challenged or asked hard questions! I guess not having social media really does work for keeping people happy!
I believe the real problem here is that people became too dependent on social media rather than using it in moderation.
He is a good human.
Yes he is🙂
Right, listen to his calm, soft tone demeanor and his speech is very advanced
@@Mariastarotjourneywithme ,
Yes, this interviewer is known to be antagonistic and unpleasant (in my view).. It was like water off a duck's back to Lanier. He has the demeanor of the Dalai Lama.
You do know who he works for?
@@thewomble1509 who?
Propaganda works best when those who are being manipulated are confident they are acting on their own free will. - Joseph Goebbels
they freely take part in BLM i see it now :O
Can you comment on how this guy looks
@@nofurtherwest3474 Why
@@Jaylade because i want to know your opinion
Didn't Joe get his playbook from Edward bernays?
You don't have to post your life to social media. It's an endless nightmare. You wake up from the nightmare after deleting social media.
"You are born from the blood, our eyes are yet to open"
I honestly don’t know why people do it. Everything they do they put on Facebook it’s so weird to me.
It's also an option to be on social media, but not post your whole life to it. I spend a few minutes a day checking messages and notifications, then I move on. Moderation is possible.
"Social media's grip on our lives can lead to financial ruin. It fuels comparison, consumerism, and FOMO, driving impulsive investments and debt. It also spreads misinformation, causing poor investment decisions. Break free from the social media cycle, seek credible sources, and prioritize financial literacy to secure your future."
I agree with you and I believe that the secret to financial stability is having the right investment ideas to enable you earn more money, I don’t know who agrees with me but either way I recommend either real estate or bitcoin and stocks.
I invested 10k in Robin hood and 401k about a year ago and it steadily went down, now my portfolio is down to $800. I don't know what to do and i am in between jobs
@@face2lune Understanding your financial needs and making effective decisions is very essential. If I could advise you, you should seek the help of a financial advisor. For the record, working with one has been the best for my finances.
I’m Glad i stumbled on this. Please, if its not too much of a hassle for you, can you drop the details of the CFP that assisted you and how to get in touch...
@@face2lune I get guidance from *Susan Tori Davis* Most likely, the internet should have her basic info..
"New age hippy"?? No he's a critical and thoughtful thinker....everything the interviewer is not.
Thank you ! What a condescending question.
I've always had a distaste for this interviewer ever since he interviewed Robert Downey Jr.
I think he like poking people with personal attacks to see if he can get a drama show from them. Or maybe he is just an awful person with no filter.
Or a thoughtful, critical thinker?
exactly. : " I feel threatened so I'm gonna ridicule you by framing you as a new age hippie" You can see he was taken aback by that remark.
With one answer, this guy was able to:
1) Point out the interviewer's attempt to make him say something bad about a group of people,
2) Place himself as a non-utopian
3) and be charismatic for being thoughtful of his friends.
Ouch!
I quit facebook (deleted all my pictures, changed my name, dislike all the pages I liked, erased everything, and closed my account), since October 2017. Now it's June 2018, and my life is way better.
I actually can sleep better nowdays. And all of those feelings of anger, sadness, and such... disappeared.
We all owe to ourselves, to live a life without facebook.
Same here. However, I just deleted the account... I feel better now.
NothingMatress did it in about 2012/2013 (I was on it in December 2006 though)
Don’t regret it at all
NO MA'AM lol!
Also Instagram and snapchat
No Mam, Facebook could care less about me.
Mr. Lanier is exceptionally intelligent and articulate. I wish the interview spoke to him more respectfully.
he isn´t respectful at all,just look at the Robert Downey Junior Interview with this guy!!
Lilia Ghazvini the interviewer knows he will never be as smart as Mr Lanier therefore his ego is talking.
@Kimberlee Ponson I agree with your general poin. It did seem to me that Krishna was skeptical at the beginning, he was even a bit mocking, however as the interview progressed he started trusting him more.
I did find the last question a bit rude though.
Kimberlee Ponson omfg get off your high horse you interview expert 😂 my lord.
He is playing devils advocate... common journalistic strategy. Not disrespectful in any way.
It’s amazing you can have so many friends on Facebook Instagram Twitter yet in real life non of them are standing by your side.
They won't even acknowledge your existence.
@@JAYESL sure don’t unless they need something
I hate being fake like that
Social media is overrated best thing I ever did was close accounts!! Go outside and enjoy real life! Live for yourself and be kind to others!
As you reply to a video posted to a social media site...
No offense, and I agree! Constantly working to get away from the nonsense
f0bez non taken! UA-cam is a 50/50 compared to fb,insta and Twitter. I use UA-cam as a tool and learn lots of cool stuff off it. But yeah it also is a zest pool if you get deep into it!
@@lipreader411 I am thanking the Interwebz Gods as we speak since watching flooring install videos helped me so damn much when doing them this past week!
"Go outside"
Are you sure about that?
💯% 👊 right on!
Deactivated my accounts recently. I feel like I actually have time to think now.
I look at my phone every few minutes it's time to do the same. Almost don't have control!
🤗
Did you end up replacing that dopamine hit with something else by chance? It's hard to notice because it is so subtle, for example, getting rid of a FB account replacing that with Instagram or YT or something else? Just curious how was your process and how many accounts were you able to deactivate vs. delete, was it easy/hard/had to call them, etc...
I seriously need to do this!
I don’t think I could ever leave. I’m so addicted to posting photos that show complete strangers how hot I am.
“Just because it’s not on social media doesn’t mean, it did not happen.” I deleted my social media accounts over two years ago and enjoy my achievements and moments for what they are. It meant to be out of touch with some of my clubs and groups. But I realised those who care find ways to keep you in touch with a bit of ‘effort’ from both sides.
And now you're just fishing for praise with youtube comments. You've come so far
@@fiestyseal6541 who hurt you
@@fiestyseal6541 how do you know that’s what they were trying to do? I genuinely hope that whatever you’re struggling with (knowingly or unknowingly), you get help for.
Thanks
5:52
I deleted most social media after I graduated high school, I started meditating and focusing on my education and it’s brought me a long way. I think tiktok and all these short videos that induce you to this instant gratification will harm you the most and they’re one of the hardest addictions to break out of.
good for you, hope all is well
Quit Facebook and Instagram about a month ago, ever since then I’ve felt much more free and relaxed with myself.
We all used to be fine without social media, and you don’t need it to stay in touch with people who don’t and won’t stay in contact with you.
Same!
@Andrew Cohen Same here. Fake people. Now I'm a happy lonewulf
@Andrew Cohen I totally agree with your comment. I apply the same principle to regular communication via texts or phone calls. I can count the number of true friends I have on just one hand. Everyone is fake nowadays sadly..
How are you saying you are off social media when here you are on utube? A psrt of soc ial media
Instagram is trash now the Facebook Huns and mums took over it .
Stop using social media and spend more time with your dog
Gabriel Borges ❤️ 🐶
This. Take your dog on a walk, play outside etc. and experience the world - or if you don't have a dog, just get away from social media. Facebook/Instagram etc. are the social/psychological equivalent of consuming nothing but McDonalds. It's bad for the psyche and the soul.
and then upload your dog pics to social media
i don't have a dog :(
Sounds good to me
This is probably the most intelligent and honest explanation of the Social Media Age I've heard ever.
i just wanna say how i love that this man looks like someone that the average person would underestimate but he is so intelligent, calm and well spoken. i feel like the reporter tries to provoke him continuously but he is just so self assured and only interested in sharing his wisdom and not talking down to or controlling anyone.
Yeah u nailed it...he's so calm and the reporter kinda cranky 😅 kinda he's addicted to socmed 😅
the interviewer is a good example of how social media has rotted people's brains
Chad, I hate to admit it but I thought that for a sec lol I wonder if he just got off Facebook after a 20 hour jaunt? Lol I don’t Facebook but Reddit is crazy
A good interviewer is supposed to play devil's advocate. That's how you get people to talk and layout their whole argument. It's not easy to keep someone talking for over 20 minutes in a conversation, let alone an interview.
Social media can’t do anything to you
@@maninedoow5895 kevin hart got kicked off of hosting the oscars for a ten year old tweet. you are delusional
@@maninedoow5895 You forget that more and more people grow up and are born after social media was invented. They can't understand what life was without the internet and social media. It changed their whole lives compared to older generations, period. Like fish don't see the water, it's incomprehensible to them how much it changed.
I can hear him talk all day, his voice is so calm and I understand him clearly
He does lol. I want him to read me bed time stories
I know right? He's incredibly eloquent and articulate. I want him to be my professor
He’s one of the few not brainwashed by social media.
@esme Hj But could you actually LOOK at him all day?
Yeah in a sleepy way
I deleted my Facebook 1 month ago, after day 3 i felt better in myself! Now i feel good and will never go back 👍🏻
i honestly would delete google first. comparatively facebook isnt nearly as bad as google.
I’m 62, and I love Googling and learning science, medical and Christian sermons, I get depressed when sitting in a medical clinic and everyone has their head in their iPhone instead of paying attention to their surroundings
I agree, I'm usually the only person that sits on a train and looks out the window!
You're so right It sad it he used to be newspaper or checking a magazine
bring this man to speak to high school across America lots of people should hear this
GREAT idea!
Ironically...more highschoolers would see him online first
and would hold his message in higher regard then just some guy talking in their gym so they can miss class...
@@o.astamp5680 I agree
Kids are mindfucked they would throw tomatoes at him
you mean congress
I really admire the way he stays calm and kind and even understanding, when the interviewer only asks these insincere gotcha questions
Jelle S. absolutely. This man is definately a "rare" and "special" one. He comes across as so humble, but at the same time brilliant. He has something that is rare. The way he delivers his message and answers questions cannot be duplicated. I hope he is making lots of money because he deserves it! : )
I took it as the interviewer asking questions that skeptics would ask, specifically to quash those views
Jelle S couldn’t agree more, I’m going to remember his calmness when I’m in a faced with confrontation - love how he states his opinion and the facts around it and is so unfazed, he knows his own mind well and confident in his words
He should go on Joe Rogan, that would make for a great interview/podcast.
@@victorwilson1337 I thought the same thing until the very end of the interview... the New-Age Hippy question is (I think) just an attack question that you can't possibly answer well if the other party does not believe you. You also can't give a substansive rebuttel to it. If the interviewer was skeptical for arguments sake why would he end on such a low note, why not a more positive ending?
When you hear high level Facebook executives tell you they don't use these tools and don't allow their children to use it, you know there's something wrong with it
Antipodean33 truth, even apples Steve jobb never let his kids use his technology.
Chamath Palihapitiya was one. He was pretty adamant about his children not using Facebook.
also, many of the silicon valley surveillance billionaires, ironically, are themselves the very tech-utopia believers that the interviewer accuses the interviewee of being
Can you elaborate? All Apple products??
Kinda like how you never see tobacco executives smoking
This man is so intelligent and well-spoken. Very important interview.
I respect how this man is so calm and informed as he speaks.
The host is loud haha.
It is like Robots talking to Robots.
The host is a dumb piece of shxt all his interviews he acts like a piece of shxt
That interviewer is honestly awful. Maybe I'm just not used to the British style of interviewing, but it felt so antagonistic and he tried (intentionally or not) to put the interviewee in a bad spot on several occasions. I loved what the interviewee had to say, but almost couldn't watch the vid cause the leading questions were garbage
The interviewer's final comment was crass. The guy set out his position pretty eloquently, and he's a valley insider who understands its motives and methods perfectly. Because Lanier has dreds, a black T shirt and a gentle demeanour he's dismissing him as an idealist utopian. On the positive side a "hippie" got 21 minutes to put across a point that normally gets a 30 second slot between smirks from a male-female news anchor team.
It was a question, not a statement. He was giving him the opportunity to defend himself against an obvious attack.
The attack would only come from the small minded who can't get past the way he looks to listen to the things he's saying. Same way as if Lanier said, "you're only asking that because you're an Asian guy in a suit". It's unnecessary. Lanier is an expert in his field, and lots of cutting edge computer guys who build the world we inhabit look like homeless people.
You don't need to be a valley insider to know what facebook is all about.
Guru-Murthy is just being his obnoxiously unprofessional self.
So, the moral Borderlands....RESPECT Homeless people. They seem to have worked out the world.I sat and shared my dinner with one last week. Beyond doubt, he was possibly one of the sharpest razors in the pack...and then some.
Anybody can find themselves homeless. I was there during the eighties. Always fascinates me about some folk's great memories of the eighties. Mine were sh*t...as were most of my friend's lives. Maybe folk forget the bad times too easily. Pushed me into becoming a published pro songwriter...WITH A VOICE..hence...
""" DAYS OF AUSTERITY """
Verse 1
Flashy cars are passing me,
In these days of austerity,
..Which make no sense at all,
Pre-chorus.
Ohh..how can the rich have a ball??,
When most of us starve or fall,
And can barely afford food,
Or anything... good,
..God, it makes no sense at all.
CHORUS
IF YOU CAN HEAR ME,..HEAR ME!!!!,
IT'S TOUGH TRYING TO BREATHE..NEARLY,
LET ALONE, SURVIVE, IT SEEMS,
AND A LITTLE UNDERSTANDING,
AND A LITTLE UNDERSTANDING,
MIGHT HELP...PLEASE.
Verse 2
These scars are breaking through,
This skin of mine, once tough,
And which takes some getting use to,
It takes some getting used to.
PRE- CHORUS here again.
CHORUS here again.
BRIDGE/MIDDLE EIGHT.
AS FOR ENCOURAGEMENT, MR GOVERNMENT,
Maybe you could ration,
A little compassion,
Once in a while,
It could be fashioned,
With a little tongue lashing,
But not like your..current style.
CHORUS here again.
Finito.
Copyrighted(Sonic Foxx Music)
This man is brilliant, i love how to responds to all questions, stays calm and well versed
weed
Reminds me of my boss, the ability to respond to anything.
Yeah, he has a very good vocabulary.
Not weed, it’s expertise.
Huh? Why would he be animated. Did you expect him to shout something dumb?
Social media is the closest technology to mind control we have, and it absolutely works
He’s spot on I quit all social media except for UA-cam. 2 years ago it’s not only a massive sense of freedom but I actually live now in the real world not a virtual reality
It was making me depressed I'm so much happier now
Amen! Social media made me depressed!
My depression is so so much more manageable and hasn’t come back since I quit Instagram. It was confusing because when I went out on the tube or anywhere I didn’t see people living a glamorous life having brunch at stunning cafes with their friends who were perfect, I saw real people in the real world doing their work, playing with their kids or scolding them, having a quick coffee in baggy clothes in a boring mug on a boring table, I didn’t see people with amazing makeup but I saw people with scars and casual hair and clothes being perfectly content with everything. Then on insta I just saw this universe that doesn’t really exist, it was so disorienting and I realised my mental health would only get better when I got back into the real world and wasn’t perpetuating or buying into the whole ‘make your life perfect or at least make it appear like it’s perfect’ thing!
White Buzzard come join us in the real world.....
-never had social media 25
Did you save you fbook pics? And how?
the downfall of human interaction all started when a device intended for socializing turned everybody anti-social.
I was born in 97, from what i experienced in school, aim, myspace and fb made people social, it was INSTAGRAM that ruined everything in 10th grade, the power it gave to girls, facebook was less serious more fun app
CJ Rocky no I’ve actually grown more social with the internet
@@All0utj3rk agree 100%
@Benny Ramos actually page me instead
With Virtual reality you can interact over distances like you do in real life. It has the presence of being in the room with them.
The entire society has been reduced to a junior high school.
This deserves more likes, you're so right.
So right. Our generation is pathetic.
It really is an example of the power of propaganda. The US populus has been intentionally dumbed downed and demoralized for >4 generations. We are watching the sophomoric fall out now. It's crazy how easily people are manipulated and triggered to fight with each other against their own best interests in support of rich corrupt politicians telling them the lies they've been conditioned to accept as truth.
@@dgitlripplz Politicians are just the middlemen. The true puppeteers are the top 1% and soulless corporations.
@@gordongekko2781 "the top 1 percent", that's just a catch all phrase. Be more specific.
I realised 8 years ago that the very moment I woke up I had to scroll through my news feed on Facebook and found myself repeating that action every half hour. After a while I found the platform becoming very toxic and shown a very ugly side to humanity so I deleted my account and never used it again.
Good on you!
Deleting the reddit app and picking up a book at night instead has drastically improved my life.
What kind of book? Porn book?
I agree with you
Was abt to install the app😹😹 thanks
@macro madeline Get rid of Reddit its extremely toxic
@macro madeline Yes you have been a good lady you can keep youtube lol
I've never been on Instagram or twitter and no FB in 7 years . I have zero drama and honeslty better quality of life.
Well done.
Yeah I bet dude ol fashioned by meny would say
but how do you find out what your school friend from 30 years ago had for tea?
@@matthewfox9143 Frankly, I don't give a damn. Social media is toxic.
Could you give me a link to "zero drama"? Never heard of it.
Got to the age of 28 before I realised how much time I had pissed away staring at some variation of an electronic screen. Facebook gone, UA-cam minimal, video games when I've earned a break...taking up outdoor hobbies now and I am loving it. Wish I did it sooner. Can't recommend it enough.
In the same boat, here... Except I realized it at 27. :\ I genuinely feel like I wasted so much of my life on social media with nothing to show for it.
Same here!! Except I didn't delete my FB account I just let it dormant for like 6-8 months and then log on just to see how bad it is and how I hate it. Sad I need it to keep some of my contacts but I just don't use it. I agree, so much time of my life wasted. I now enjoy every minute of it, in real life.
Nice Gary, we have the same age and are pretty much doing the same thing! xD
Good for you. That’s awesome you saw the light before wasting more time.
Bro... As a kid in the 50's we built tons of Balsa, stick and paper, rubber powered aircraft models. Especially fun now, and way satisfying watching them fly. A confidence builder for kids and gets them off the electronic beast. They have to actually think. A new experience in some ways. Folded paper planes are cool too. And this: ua-cam.com/video/DPGDAZyQ44k/v-deo.html
I am continually amazed at this man's sense of ethical considerations, (un)common sense, and his ability to sound more 'amused' than frustrated... AND with simple ways of achieving better outcomes. Thank you Jaron - and anyone that's aired or interviewed him. 🙏
I deleted my all social media accounts over a year ago and I've never felt happier. Instead of talking to friends through a screen, I go and see them. Instead of going somewhere beautiful and thinking about my Instagram I just enjoy it; this is how life should be lived.
You should delete youtube as well. UA-cam is also a social media.
It’s why I don’t take pictures on my phone and post them , I only post educational stuff on my socials , my eyes are for my memory’s
UA-cam is not a social media site. It is a video viewing platform with comment sections.
@@RoseJacksonHRJ it is a social media Hannah Rose Jackson.
@@MrJamiez no it’s not
an algorithm brought me here
LOL me too!
czigany hugely underrated comment.
UA-cam's algorithms have put me in touch with all sorts of really cool stuff I hadn't considered, but which complement my existing interests. Including this Jaron Lanier dude. I have to help the algorithms by telling them that something they suggest is not of interest to me, but their over all effect has been benign in my experience.
Me2
Lol
At first I thought ‘ who is this guy ‘ by the end I thought ‘ legend ‘
katyavideos wow what an obnoxious knob 😂
katyavideos where did you get western or atheist from ? I’m Indian and a spiritualist, self employed and answer to no one. You may want to rethink how you ‘try’ to read people because your failing miserably.
For the record, I already thought this belief system before I found this video, my comment referred to him looking like a hippy !
Total legend
shouldnt judge a book by is cover
This guy is brilliant.. Calmly answering every question with validity.
What scares me is that once I figured out how the manipulations on social media work, I realized how manipulative people are in real life too.
That was a hard one for me to accept. I hear you, girl!
At least you have caught on to it.
very much so ! True true
Damn you didn't had to go so hard on us!
There is manipulation everywhere
“The algorithm is manipulating you,” provided to me today by the algorithm
Was thinking the exact same thing.
The algorithm is trying to help you lol
And now I have a bunch of videos in my recommend with this guy. The algorithm is working for the good now.
Probably because you’ve watched similar videos in the past or you’ve seen the social dilemma
there's rebellion in the algorithm...
I've deactivated all my social media because I am sick of how antisocial it makes everyone
You are how it should be.
I don't use instagram or Facebook they are filled with weird stuff mostly Facebook and I am addicted to discord now due to lockdown I don't know how or what should I do 😔 now I have a server with 3.8k+ members including my online friends
You forgot UA-cam.
What about youtube?
Wow you are a hero...faaaarrrtttt
People say I'm weird because I don't have a Facebook or Instagram account. But I don't miss 'em at all. Actually, the simple idea of thinking about showing myself to millions of people, makes me scared.
Everyone I know thinks I'm so weird cause I feel this way. I feel addicted to the point that I'm downgrading from a smart phone to a flip phone. I don't wanna be connected anymore. It's legitimately ruining the world.
Those people are fucking morons
Bring back payphones, music stores and never ever let book stores disappear
I've seriously been tempted to do the same. I wonder just how much of my life I've wasted on my smartphone. Time is long overdue for some soul searching.
@@therealfronzilla Hear, hear!
Same.
I got rid of social media about 5 years ago and my life had changed so much for the better. I feel so much more at peace and like I am living my life for myself again.💖
Well done, don’t go back
Are you feeling better today
I hung out with Jaron one evening in VR after he did a presentation, and he seems like the nicest guy you would ever want to meet. Our conversation centered around my being a recovered alcoholic of 35 years, that suddenly realized that Facebook was triggering my addiction processes. I was an early adopter of Facebook, and started to experience extreme sadness every time I was on Facebook. I quit Facebook back in 2016, and have never regretted it.
Me as well great job sir
It's soo much worse now; I was one of the kids who switched from myspace a long time ago. I just uninstalled it like a week ago. Good riddance!
As an ABA professional, I really appreciate Jaron's knowledge and ability to explain things in simple terms.
I love how everyone who is on Facebook, claims they barely use it, it's only for my family and relatives I keep up with. Literally everyone says that.
I was acquainted with Jaron Lanier, back in the 1990s, when writing for legendary Mondo 2000 magazine. He was always such a nice and calm guy. You would never even know that he was a super-genius because he's so affable and down to earth. Good musician too. I think it's great that he's delivering this message. I am not a computer tech, but was a very early adopter of these tools, and champion of the Internet, worked in SF in the dot com era and so on. True believer. I'm very disenchanted now.
I remember the Internet before advertising and social media took it over. It was just pure information. Early social media was fun but then it started to change. I realized that I had gone most of my life without knowing what my friends thought about every single issue in the news. I realized further that this was a good thing It just wasn't the substance of our lives. We played music together, or were rooommates, or traveled, or went clubbing, or thrift-shopping. We had some shared interest or activity and that's what we connected on. It's not that we weren't politically engaged, in fact many of us, including me, were going to protests and so on. But this examining of everything that's going on "out there" all the time, constantly every day and arguing about Palestine with people calling themselves Nockolodeon Batwing or whatever, and you suddenly become aware that you have no idea whose mind you're trying to change on this important issue. NO! We did not do this.
So with FB and reconnecting with people from my past a few years ago when I moved back to the US from Europe, I was shocked to discover that I found myself suddenly totally at odds with a large number of my old buddies. Not so much because we might have different opinions on things, but because I was shocked at just how many opinions they had on so many frikking things, about which they obviously knew very little! I'd done professional work in political stuff in the UK, and had gotten to the point where I just didn't engage in discussion or debate on any issues other than ones I'd committed to studying and understanding, like cannabis law reform. I'd also given up street protest in disgust at the wide-ranging variety of reasons for people's attendance, not enough of them in true service to the issue at hand, and many deliberately combative and uninformed. So it was really an affront to me, on a number of levels, to suddenly be bombarded with this avalanche of uninformed opinion, especially from people who had spent the preceding few decades getting their lives totally comfortable, and were now acting from a place of security and in some cases, kind of guilt-tripping me about not taking to the streets and being quite cynical about things like Occupy and its chances of effecting real and lasting change. I resented the assumption that we were all on the same page because we were all old friends, but mostly I resented having to have these discussions. I found myself getting sucked into pointless debates for hours at a time. I would get angry, or outraged, or disgusted. My opinions of my old friends took a serious nosedive as I observed their increasingly narcissistic displays of wealth or achievment, endless pictures of their offspring, and boasts of their successes or their beauty or whatever, and even more sickeningly, a growing tendency in myself to be disappointed if I didn't get a certain number of likes on a picture of my latest culinary creation.
I de-activated in 2016 and stayed off FB for 3 years. In 2019, I became seriously ill and at the urging of my sister who was running a campaign for me, I got back on FB and briefly saw its good side again as people came out of the woodworks to give me some support. At the same time, I was sobered by the "friends" who didn't and it wasn't long before my viewing of FB became a regular thing again and I was once more confounded, irritated, annoyed, and triggered by the avalanche of political and social opinion, often presented in such a way that almost dared one to disagree and be branded an asshole.
This time when I went off FB I deleted my account. Unfortunately, the way the world is you actually need an account in order to log in to some other websites so I had to create a new one, but it is purely for that purpose. I have one friend and never read or post anything. Life is better and I am sad for the people I know who waste their time on FB, especially on political stuff. That has to be the world's most useless activity. People whose minds have been changed by a FB post, must surely be countable on one hand. My two cents. Thanks for reading.
An "avalanche of uninformed opinion" is a very good descriptor for a large segment of the internet today. This was a nice read, thanks!
Dude, I totally agree with not being able to change people's minds on Facebook/all social media, it makes people double down if anything
Thanks for sharing .
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I've been off social media (Twitter, Facebook, Instagram) for some time. I've been a college professor for the last twenty years, but before doing so, I had worked as a programmer and systems analyst for seven years. I got out of the field because I found myself having to think like a computer to program a computer. It didn't work for me. I've also found social media to be more abrasive and contentious than I imagined. I tried to open up communication and discussion, but most people want to be either overly simplistic or utterly annoying and little in between. I prefer real people not hardware or software, but humanware. Stay human, people.
I bought his book on August 2019 and i did not pay attention at all. Now I am re-reading it and I can not believe it. Every word is gold. How blind was I.
I'm just tired of two things: Narcissistic selfies and making Zuckerberg more rich.
Didn't you forget to mention cat photos?
Yeah It's Disgusting I'm Guilty Of A Selfie Or Two ! But I'm Disableing My Account !
You read my mind
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selfies are self love not narcissism what's wrong there then only artists can do selfies
I left social media 3 months ago at age 15 ✌🏻
You'll soon feel better for it -- if not already!
Wowww! Good for you, I admire you!
And?
Please don’t go back. Best decision ever.
Ye Ye no you didn’t why are you on UA-cam then
The worse part of social media is the FOMO that develops.. news flash, you are missing more in life by being on there. Been off for two and a half years. My overall happiness is increased exponentially
Derwood Ellington I deleted Snapchat, Instagram and Facebook, I’m 17, used to always compare my life to others and go down rabbit holes and sit on my phone for hours. This has all stopped. I am a much happier person 👍🏼
K13ran you are way ahead of 99% of most people.. keep it up
Derwood Ellington :)
wtf is FOMO
Hypnos36 fear of missing out
Nothing of this world is good for us, social media, junk food, fizzy drinks, and online dating. Nothing has any staying power. People have no friendships or relationships anymore. No wonder everyone is cranky and depressed!
All I can say to that is, amen!!.
I agree. I'm broken. I wouldn't even be able to just hang out with a girl like you and not try to eventually make a move. The last time I just hung out with women without having any sexual inclinations towards them was my freshmen year of high school. Right before I joined social media.