Jaron Lanier interview on how social media ruins your life
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- Опубліковано 14 чер 2018
- Jaron Lanier, the Silicone Valley ‘computer philosopher', thinks social media is ruining your life.
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In this interview Jaron Lanier talks about Facebook, UA-cam, Google and how the tech and social media giants are using algorithms to record data about their users - and how internet algorithms shape how we see the world and what we’re shown online.
If you don't have to pay for the product, it means you are the product.
Good one,
Exactly HOW
True that
Nice, I'll remember that
mind = blown
'Are you a new age hippie?' - what a rude thing to say. The man is literally educating you.
Yeah, this guy comes off as belittling
"Are you just a" people love to slap people who stand out, with a label
this interviewer is always rude, watch him interview Robert Downey Jr
So gracious tho, and ends on great laughter*
Rude, but more dumb than rude. Jaron Lanier just spent 20 minutes explaining his views and this is the best that this interviewer can say to sum up and conclude?
Social Media is one of those things where it's hard to realize how miserable it makes you until you actually quit.
How do I quit UA-cam though ? 😂 I’m more hooked on this than instagram and tik tok
Yes
You ain't lying. I just permanently deleted my Facebook and Instagram accounts a week ago. I feel so much. @TyroneBiggums789I just unsubscribe from pages that aren't necessary to you. If I can't take what you teach and use it in my life, your page is useless to me. However, UA-cam does try to bait you to subscribe to pages you unsubscribe from. They think they're slick. UA-cam is like someone trying to reintroduce a former drug addict back to drugs after they rehabbed, and fully healed.
So true lol 9 days since deactivating instagram, and I realize how programmed and hypnotized i was to keep posting and stay updated to the app.
@@TyroneBiggums789youtube is more educational for me than keeping up with individuals.
Once you stop using social media, you never look back. I feel disgusted when I remember how much time, energy, and effort I used to put into creating an acceptable image of myself for the approval of others. Social media is a cancer.
Same here. It’s been one year and I don’t want to ever go back.
I never manipulated my image or life and it was horrible so smart decision
Very well stated.... right here on social media.🤣
Right on.
👍☕️
Facebook and Instagram teaches people to be narcissist and insecure at the same time.
Narcissism and voyeurism are two sides of the same coin. These are the twin diseases of modern humanity: "look at me! look at me!" plus "what are they doing over there? what are they doing over there?" Just be in yourself, inhabit what you are doing and stop broadcasting your every innermost thought to the world please everybody.
@@dianarosalindland1566 I agree with you.
Nothing can teach you to be a. narcissist. People use this term very freely without knowing what is actually means. Narcisism is a personality disorder and it has nothing to do with taking selfies and social media.
Narcs are the epitomy of insecure
@@cookie_dough_hangover You're right, but I do believe the narcs are drawn to instagram.
As a 30 year old I feel like my generation was the last one to experience normal life in the traditional sense. I remember going to school without smartphones, camera obsession, social media addiction etc.
We used to just hang out outdoors and ride our bikes around. We used to actually talk to the people around us at dinner, and know our neighbours intimately. Everything is distant and artificial now.
Tv is satanic mind control over the ego via fear like all politics and war
All spiritual frequency lowering
No mas
Moses is here
This is why there are so many shows like Stranger things. IT the movie. Are showing life BEFORE these things. People actually had 'REAL LIFE'. Nowadays I am finding it really HARD to find someone that had time to just HANG OUT. It is that bad now!
Yeah dude Im 36 and I totally agree!
Totally agree
yep in highschool we used to bring weed, alcohol, and smoking in class
Seeing parents look delighted when they put a smartphone in their infant's hands because it stops them crying breaks my heart.
Exactly! It is sad :(
"But I don't want them to be naive when they go online." Was the answer I got from one mother. She has a point... but...
Yes, it’s awful.
So sad
Not good parenting in my eyes
This interview has aged well. Many who would've dismissed it 5 years ago would have come to realize how true this guy is.
Facts I'm surprised Jaron isn't Jake Paul or Gary Valnervayshayakayshak whatever his name is. Tbh
I broke free from social media, I only use my Apple watch and my laptop for work. that's it. no smartphone.
@@pequod4557 same! I got rid of my smartphone last year. I now own a gab phone (no internet). the modern convenience of a smartphone didn't outweigh the negatives. Im glad mine is gone. I can think clearly again
@@JAMBI..Why are you surprised that he's not the 2 people you mentioned?
the algorithm recommended this video. the algorithm wants to end itself.
jake nell The machine is bleeding to death
The algorithm knows people cant overcome their addictions. If they could then your point would be spot on. How many quit facebook but then went back on.
Plot twist: It only recommends videos like this to people that it deems too self-aware in order to encourage them to get off the network, pruning the garden of its influence and exterminating pests that counteract its groupthink engineering.
he got intelligent and now he realised he's an asshole and wants to commit suicide xD
Maybe we should end ourselves too
Social media was supposed to bring everyone together, instead it is quite literally ripping us apart.
"Social media was supposed to bring everyone together" lol
literally? bruh am i about to get torn up like a piece of paper
You’re tearing me apart, Lisa!
No media is designed to bring people together
In boxing the fight starts by bringing the boxers together! Goes for other combat sports too.
This guy is so educated and kind. He handled that interview like butter.
I got to experience life without social media and cellphones for about 17 years (without social media) and 27 years (without a cellphone). I can literally remember the very day it changed for me for both of those. Life was so much better without those two things, it's not even comparable. When you hung out with friends and family the bonds were so much deeper and wholesome. It was okay to call your friend maybe once a week and nobody got butt hurt over it. Otherwise you'd be literally meeting up at people's houses or meet up points everyday to hang out and enjoy your lives. It was beautiful. People were different back then.
People are miserable now. You are expected to be on call 24/7 in this fake online world of "likes" and fake friendships, it's incredibly depressing. Just remember, it's JUST A COMPUTER. It's JUST A CELLPHONE. Everyone is addicted to it like crack, it's fake happiness, it's not real. Put it down and go live your lives. Find other people who don't use it much and let's start recreating bonds again and being happy and natural again.
Yeah, I disliked the cell phone immediately. I felt my smothering parents were going to use it to track me like a tagged animal while I was on college (didn’t live on campus, still lived at home), and I was correct. I thought MySpace and Facebook were fun until I realized people go so hyper sensitive and controlling over their family’s/friends’ comments and follows that it became a tool for abusers to manipulate even further. I no longer have publicly identifiable social media because of it. Social media totally destroyed my large family, too.
Good luck finding a significant number of people not addicted to their iPhones. It seems like everyone I see out in public has buds in their ears and looking at their iPhones.
Won't happen ,people are too far gone.
I think you will find people. As a person who has experienced little, but some time without it, I find a lot of people who also have looking to get back to the way things were. However, I am worried about the new generations who lack our perspective and haven’t lived without it, will they even think to do this too?
Dopamine junkies
I deleted all social media (Facebook, Twitter, instagram, snap chat) in September 2019. My life has greatly improved since I stopped wasting my time and energy on people that honestly don’t give a F about me. 💕
Nice, youll cpmpletely forgot about socials, its crazy
Yet here you are on UA-cam, is youtube not social media ma'am ? If youtube is considered social media YOU ARE still on f.b. twitter, instagram and snapchat. You love social media, thrive on it and depend on it ma'am.
Shang Hunter People keep saying this but I don’t see UA-cam the same way. I learn things on here and like others have said, you can do chores while having this playing in the background. I’m much more productive with UA-cam than other “social media.”
@@summersmith5141 Exactly, well said ! It's been the only s.m. account I've been on for a few yrs now. Deleted everything else and so much happier. Best wishes to you and yours Summer.
You want a hat and a balloon or something?
I like spending the day watching videos about self-discipline. That way I can procrastinate with the false sensation of accomplishing stuff I should be doing.
Lol
Ha ha..so relatable..
lol!
Ahhhh so I’m not alone, shows that I’m on the right path... my fellow procrastinators say *hooohah*
Self-discipline? Or self-delusion?
The irony of social media is that it disconnects people from reality
it also disconnects people by making them fight each other, radicalize, break long standing friendships over stupid online arguments, etc.
that's so true BUT I STILL USE IT😭
Escapism is a drug
I deleted my Facebook and Insta and everythings... over 6 years ago, never looked back!
When I run into people, they say I fell off the map. THANK YOU!
Smart people keep their private lives PRIVATE!
I DELETED my Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat two years ago and finally got around to physically deleting my Facebook account a few days ago after not having signed in for the last 4 months. I keep UA-cam because it's so interesting with all the documentaries and nature stuff. Also it's good for listening to critical thinkers out there that I think are good - I learn a lot from UA-cam.
Two years ago I was an alcoholic, a smoker and used lots of cocaine at the weekend.
Since the middle of 2018, I don't drink, at all, don't smoke anything, definitely am drug free and now run marathons at the weekend.
Using social media stops you from developing your brain and keeps you in a state where (in your opinion) your life isn't as good as everyone else's. Social Media should come with the same warnings that smoking does.
good decision.
UA-cam is no different though. Many flat-earthers cite UA-cam as the place where they went down the rabbit hole of ever more extreme conspiracy theories. Ironically it might actually be the advertisers which help this problem, because they're starting to refuse to pay for ads next to extremist content. So on the one hand the advertisers want to take advantage of the sensationalist, attention-grabbing nature of social media, but that very same system also creates a feedback loop of extremism that advertisers don't want to be associated with. It's hypocritical but hopefully it's at least something to prevent society from becoming increasingly paranoid and divisive.
There are some settings where you can turn off targeted ads, and you can clear and stop your watch history. That might help with the issue of UA-cam learning your habits and trying to push you into similar content that keeps you hooked for all the wrong reasons.
Wow. So true.
@Gingerbreadman GanjaFarmer I agree and I don't say otherwise. There are positives and negatives, and it's about trying to reduce the negatives.
I'm confident I can quit Facebook and twitter etc, however quiting UA-cam is much much harder for me personally
Loading Gamez it's how we get information🤓
UA-cam isn't as harmful
Football Contagion Nonsense. UA-cam is just as bad. It is mostly full of inane garbage, mass advertising, sponsored content, toxic and miserable comment sections, extreme political positions and on and on. They’re all as bad as each other and in my own experience youtube is the most time consuming and has had a bad affect on my psyche.
Susan Wojcicki and the Jewish groups like ADL and SPLC she put in charge of censorship on UA-cam have ruined it. Now UA-cam is looking more and more like mainstream TV. Its non-stop promotion of everything which is undoing the cultural fabric of our societies.
perhaps you could try using youtube without an account? maybe find your favorite channels and keep them in your browser favorites (non google browser?) and disallow the algorithm from getting a read on you.
I dont know if that would work but just a thought.
“Just because it’s not on social media doesn’t mean, it did not happen.” I deleted my social media accounts over two years ago and enjoy my achievements and moments for what they are. It meant to be out of touch with some of my clubs and groups. But I realised those who care find ways to keep you in touch with a bit of ‘effort’ from both sides.
And now you're just fishing for praise with youtube comments. You've come so far
@@fiestyseal6541 who hurt you
@@fiestyseal6541 how do you know that’s what they were trying to do? I genuinely hope that whatever you’re struggling with (knowingly or unknowingly), you get help for.
Thanks
5:52
I got rid of social media about 5 years ago and my life had changed so much for the better. I feel so much more at peace and like I am living my life for myself again.💖
Well done, don’t go back
Are you feeling better today
How to live a happy life:
1) Delete your social media accounts
2) Don't open a new one
Facts that’s the truth right dere!!
I opened a new Facebook account , cuz at my university ,Facebook is the only platform they use to share (announcement, updates...etc ) ... so just temporarily and once i graduate i will delete it again
🤦🏿
I agree
NOT!!!!
Then we're not living a happy life if you are on UA-cam and so am I. Interesting
I didn't delete my social media immediately after I saw the documentary he's in. But his words stuck with me. I started to see things differently. I saw myself from an outside perspective. I started to realize the Internet is now some sort of US high school - who's the prettiest, the most popular, the coolest. I got off the rat race and I feel so much better. Life is much more than that.
Well said
Can yoi name the doc ? Thanks !
@@runwitscissors00 I think it's "The Social Dilemma"
You still have UA-cam that's a social media.
Me too, I feel like the most people want to show how special and diferrent they are.
And if you aren't a part of this game, you don't exist.
When people abandon their social media, win win. Never heard a single one regret it !
I’m 29 years old, I have had social media since MySpace started in 2003 when I was 11 years old. 18 years of my life was spent constantly checking some form of social media and I am proud to say I deleted all of my apps 4 days ago. FB, IG, Twitter, TikTok, Snapchat everything gone. I honestly have not felt more free 🥰🥰
After bringing the mental health dangers of social media to my attention, I realized I need to focus on and heal myself, and start to care much less about what society has to say about my decisions.
I feel liberated 😝
#StarveTheSocialMediaDrugDealers
Well done!
Don’t go back
I do have IG and UA-cam only but I don't really let it consume my being. I could careless what anyone says or do on Instagram. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Congratulations!!!!!!
@@shelterlovely I took a 2 month break from my social media accounts and it helped my anxiety so much. I have IG and UA-cam now, Snapchat I only use for the filters when I’m bored lol but I will NEVER go back to Facebook or tiktok again!
Quit FB in 2011 and IG in 2013. I found myself obsessing and lurking on other people's profile and realized how sick that made me feel. I'm so happy I made that decision.
So why are u on UA-cam tho ?
Real Never leave UA-cam is kind of like TV in my opinion there’s very limited exposure of a person on UA-cam profiles
YES!..... so much happier I quit FB.....I dont stalk my ex anymore......that got me sooooooo depressed.
So who care ??
@@congosrevolution8625 apparently you do since u replied to this comment twice
Social media encourages anti-social behaviour.
🤦♀️☹️
Not really. Block the trolls and other uncivilized beasts.
And block all mainstream media garbage.
sweiland75 yes, and I now refer to myself as a social idiot and I wasn't like that before social media!🤦🏾♀️
@@ayetam_aye What is a social idiot, what are the traits?
I am 32 and I loved growing up with no social media. I just read that a teenage girl hung herself after 30 of her classmates signed a "suicide petition" and were constantly bullying her on FB, IG and so on...kids are getting MEANER by the day and social media IT IS BIG PART OF THE ISSUE. As humans, we are kinder to each other when we look at someone's face...the computer screen, or phone, is de-humanizing.
little late to this, but this is HORRIFIC. Having a little sister this is concerning.
What was her name???? That is disgusting that that happened
i used to be one of those toxic people on social media! i started to notice a while back how social media encourages this kind of bullying. people will literally TRY to ratio other people with snide comments, they'll literally try and outdo each other with how mean they can get, it's madness! and they'll justify it saying "but the other person deserves it b/c they said something mean themselves once!"
5 years strong without the social garbage media. I honestly never missed it and I'm happy.
UA-cam is social media...
That's awesome but youtube is also part SM especially the comment section ;)
Isn't UA-cam comment considered social media garbage?
@@kaliplaya86 no, idk about you but I only tend to watch educational videos and sports highlights.
@@Chris-fe6ku Eh, not really. You're just a screen name commenting and replying here and there and then you move on from the conversation for forever, like we are doing here. With social media, you build up a profile of pictures and videos and a bio and keep in touch with "friends" not strangers like "Chris".
You don't have to post your life to social media. It's an endless nightmare. You wake up from the nightmare after deleting social media.
"You are born from the blood, our eyes are yet to open"
I honestly don’t know why people do it. Everything they do they put on Facebook it’s so weird to me.
It's also an option to be on social media, but not post your whole life to it. I spend a few minutes a day checking messages and notifications, then I move on. Moderation is possible.
I feel sorry for those born around the late 90's and after that haven't experienced life without the internet and social media. While the internet is amazing, it's not the "real world."
probably every boomer in the 1950s: I feel sorry for those born in 1945 and after that haven't experienced life without those blasted televisions. While TVs are amazing, it's not the "real world."
TV is not interactive though. TV is/was a modern version of theater which has existed forever. Social interaction with the world wasn't possible inside the home or at your finger tips and there wasn't total anonymity in daily interactions with strangers. There also wasn't a disconnect that the internet/smart phones provides in person to person interaction. There is a difference. While I appreciate these things immensely and they are great for the world, I also very much appreciate that I got to live my youth without the toxicity inherent in social media in particular.
But the internet does show the real person.
Perhaps it brings out the negative in a person that would otherwise be dormant if there was no internet?
I agree, I was born in the early 90’s so I just missed the cusp. Smartphones and social media became popular right when I graduated high school. I couldn’t imagine the effects of having platforms like tik tok and instagram or unlimited access to porn in middle and high school. It was already hard enough to just be an oddball teenager.
As a software engineer, I relate to how Jaron answers these questions. I think a lot of software engineers are drawn to the profession not just for the money but with the idea of building something cool, unique, and that helps people. But what happens when an industry has taken wrong turns for decades? I wish we would be more introspective, admit our failures publicly, and evolve, as our understanding of human psychology becomes common knowledge that should inform what we build.
Jaron should have spoken before... not after becoming a millionaire with the same tools he is now reporting. What an hypocrite grrrr
@monicarossi8335 right! He got his so it's ok to speak up now.
I admire people who respond to complex, multifaceted questions with simple, intelligible, well thought-out arguments that are not overly simplistic.
Many people would have happier lives without looking at what others are doing. FOCUS ON YOU. Be content with yourself.
Yes!!!!!
"11 I am not saying this because I am in need, for I have learned to be content whatever the circumstances. 12 I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want. 13 I can do all this through him who gives me strength." Philippians 4:11-13
I would say you should still look at good people and learn from them.
Well said. I miss the good ole days when there wasn't any such thing as the internet people actually seen each other n not just text etc..
@Childd Please! There is a contradiction here. Which is, by saying this, you are focusing on what other people are doing. Comparing your current life or status to another's isn't inherently evil, it's when you respond to it in such a way that causes you to behave in a manner that would be detrimental to your psychological health. You can use negative feelings as fuel to motivate you in order to gain positive experiences. In my opinion, a counter part to the issue of social media we currently have is that as a Nation we have lost our values. This in conjunction with manipulation of social media, distorts the public perception of what our trajectory as a nation should be. I don't want to list every example and go into too much depth to be perfectly honest solely because the amount of time it would take, but you can see many anti-consumer practices across many industries. The sole focus for the past few decades has shifted to earning capital. Where as before it was earning capital, but also establishing a brand as opposed to cashing in on one. I've notice this shift in many "creative industries," such as gaming, music, film. Producers of such content now seem more focused on their quarterly reports, than actually earning the respect and trust of there consumers. Meaning they're always looking for the next best trick to milk the cow so to speak, with little regard to cow's well being. Short term, being an important point because consumers can and have wisen up to said practices which in turn sours there relationship with any such company behaving in such a manner. Ultimately ruining the consumer/producer relationship, then harming the producer (EA Games for example) and finally the consumer, because our economy isn't stronger when businesses fail, and the consumer obviously exist with in that economy. In all, I feel this problem stretches far beyond social media, this is a consumer/producer problem brought on in part by the internet changing the rate and ease in which we can exchange information in turn creating a sort of wild west dynamic within the market place. In a time of rapid evolutionary development, it's in our best interest to solve this soon.
He's 60??? Holy, I mean he doesn't look particularly young but he gives off such a warm, vibrant energy
@Gizmo Allwin LOL no 48 year old looks this bad, except maybe Donnie Jr.
I didn't recognize him at first, he looks terrible. I remember him as the virtual reality guy.
He's a typical Taurus
LaDolcevita found the Instagram addict
This guy may not know that he helped create the false world of the beast system. He needs Jesus.
I have gone back to a flip phone. I feel free like I did in the 90's and early 2000's! Life is awesome and on my terms!
I wanna do that!
I miss those days.
I love how Jaron quickly took control of the interview from the host with the first hostile question, and was like there's not just one reason, there's two and here's why. Nicely done.
He knows his stuff 👏
I didn't get a sense of hostility from the first question but go off, I guess.
@@megsley I think you're right, from what I noticed about British interviews is that they go hard on everyone with the opposite world view equally, no matter the world view.
I'm just tired of two things: Narcissistic selfies and making Zuckerberg more rich.
Didn't you forget to mention cat photos?
Yeah It's Disgusting I'm Guilty Of A Selfie Or Two ! But I'm Disableing My Account !
You read my mind
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🙌🏽
selfies are self love not narcissism what's wrong there then only artists can do selfies
The entire society has been reduced to a junior high school.
This deserves more likes, you're so right.
So right. Our generation is pathetic.
It really is an example of the power of propaganda. The US populus has been intentionally dumbed downed and demoralized for >4 generations. We are watching the sophomoric fall out now. It's crazy how easily people are manipulated and triggered to fight with each other against their own best interests in support of rich corrupt politicians telling them the lies they've been conditioned to accept as truth.
@@dgitlripplz Politicians are just the middlemen. The true puppeteers are the top 1% and soulless corporations.
@@gordongekko2781 "the top 1 percent", that's just a catch all phrase. Be more specific.
Jaron Lanier is the wise wizard of the internet 🙂 We all need to listen to him. For real .
It’s amazing you can have so many friends on Facebook Instagram Twitter yet in real life non of them are standing by your side.
They won't even acknowledge your existence.
@@JAYESL sure don’t unless they need something
They put him up here to make him look mad BUT HE TALKS TRUTH
D MXSTRY and professional with how he says it
Trust! he’s talking big facts!!
Why did you asum hes mad ?
@@adnanrifaie4604 His appearance duh which he chose and the channel didn't tell him to look like that.
D MXSTRY we are conditioned to see a smart person in a suit not it old rags with dread locks, he’s happy with him self so image ain’t no thing, knowledge is enough for this spiritual fine human being, peace and love all ❤️
I quit social media 5 years ago, when I was 18, I just live my life simply , carefree, and improving my skills.
UA-cam is social media
It’s really hard for people that were teens basically brought up into this stuff.
Well done D ! I'm just on FB got rid of the rest.
Wow...good for you
Good for you D. How did you do it being so young?
Jaron Lanier is incredible, he’s always so down to earth and calm. It’s just nice to be able to hear someone talk about something that they are passionate about and able to educate on without being in your face, or screaming why he’s right when challenged or asked hard questions! I guess not having social media really does work for keeping people happy!
I believe the real problem here is that people became too dependent on social media rather than using it in moderation.
I deleted most social media after I graduated high school, I started meditating and focusing on my education and it’s brought me a long way. I think tiktok and all these short videos that induce you to this instant gratification will harm you the most and they’re one of the hardest addictions to break out of.
good for you, hope all is well
Deleted Facebook and IG because it made my depression worse, forever comparing yourself to other people is dangerous. Also the amount of toxicity and narcissism from people these days is increasing. Social media is not just a tool but a weapon.
I agree with you 100%
Dont attach depression by saying "my", it isnt, just happens, observe it.
It was all prophesied in the Book of Revelation. Have you seen the video of the selfie girls at the Baseball game? Check it out.
VERY TRUE.
Geez If you compare yourself to others all the time you will have that problem offline, too. We need to choose online "friends" carefully and zap anyone acting suspiciously, as it were.
I think we need to go back to basics. Family time, volunteer work. Live unselfish lives.
I agree! It's the road to happiness, definitely.
Thinks that may be gone be hard to break this trend but I agree with u
Live unselfish but not selflessly
Silver Girl and finding God ❤️
Also back to flip phones.
The interviewer needs training. Jaron Lanier, made some great points and answered his question so well that it deserves follow up questions to his answers, not just the next question. It's like his waiting for Jason to stop talking just to ask another question.
I'm glad I'm old enough to remember life before social media -- it was way more fun then.
I left fb 4 years ago. I will never go back.
Monica C - me too. Said goodbye to Instagram today
Monica C I dislike social media n don't need nor use any !
there are others?!
LOL is Facebook! :) @The Nezk
Same here, I saw this coming 5 years ago. I don't hear from a lot of my old close friends these days, but I guess that answers the question of if they were actually all that close.
Social media is SO toxic, wish more people really understood this. Because everyone nowadays, especially the young like me, are so blinded.
Oh, honey....you are wise. Young people like you would gain a lot from putting down their phones & interacting with each other, breathing the fresh air, meditating, creating great things. You can do it..sending love & peace..don't underestimate yourself, please!! There is so much good in this crazy world!!
He ain't lying my sista and them be so into social media they don't pay attention to nothing people take all they problems to social media
amen!
This is a mainstream idea. Lots of people pat themselves on the back for knowing what they think the rest of the world is "blind" to. If you came to that conclusion through mainstream info, chances are lots of others think the same.
@@222browneyes chances are, if youre not actually letting the internet be your entire experience... You wouldnt say "clever" things like this
This man is so intelligent and well-spoken. Very important interview.
i just wanna say how i love that this man looks like someone that the average person would underestimate but he is so intelligent, calm and well spoken. i feel like the reporter tries to provoke him continuously but he is just so self assured and only interested in sharing his wisdom and not talking down to or controlling anyone.
Yeah u nailed it...he's so calm and the reporter kinda cranky 😅 kinda he's addicted to socmed 😅
When you hear high level Facebook executives tell you they don't use these tools and don't allow their children to use it, you know there's something wrong with it
Antipodean33 truth, even apples Steve jobb never let his kids use his technology.
Chamath Palihapitiya was one. He was pretty adamant about his children not using Facebook.
also, many of the silicon valley surveillance billionaires, ironically, are themselves the very tech-utopia believers that the interviewer accuses the interviewee of being
Can you elaborate? All Apple products??
Kinda like how you never see tobacco executives smoking
came for the dreadlocks, stayed because this guy is incredibly well spoken and intelligent
this is Jaron Lanier, he's a famous technologist....
lol same
He was friends with Richard Feynman!
@@MeppyMan Is he a zionist?.
@Paul Owen and utterly HIDEOUS-looking! I literally had to look away to follow what he was saying.
People say I'm weird because I don't have a Facebook or Instagram account. But I don't miss 'em at all. Actually, the simple idea of thinking about showing myself to millions of people, makes me scared.
Crazy how even watching this video and learning to downsize screen on time is the very thing the algorithm is curating for me to keep watching videos about not watching stuff on social media
the interviewer is a good example of how social media has rotted people's brains
Chad, I hate to admit it but I thought that for a sec lol I wonder if he just got off Facebook after a 20 hour jaunt? Lol I don’t Facebook but Reddit is crazy
A good interviewer is supposed to play devil's advocate. That's how you get people to talk and layout their whole argument. It's not easy to keep someone talking for over 20 minutes in a conversation, let alone an interview.
Social media can’t do anything to you
@@maninedoow5895 kevin hart got kicked off of hosting the oscars for a ten year old tweet. you are delusional
@@maninedoow5895 You forget that more and more people grow up and are born after social media was invented. They can't understand what life was without the internet and social media. It changed their whole lives compared to older generations, period. Like fish don't see the water, it's incomprehensible to them how much it changed.
“The algorithm is manipulating you,” provided to me today by the algorithm
Was thinking the exact same thing.
The algorithm is trying to help you lol
And now I have a bunch of videos in my recommend with this guy. The algorithm is working for the good now.
Probably because you’ve watched similar videos in the past or you’ve seen the social dilemma
there's rebellion in the algorithm...
I realised 8 years ago that the very moment I woke up I had to scroll through my news feed on Facebook and found myself repeating that action every half hour. After a while I found the platform becoming very toxic and shown a very ugly side to humanity so I deleted my account and never used it again.
Good on you!
Listen to Jaron Lanier, he’s 100% correct
Social Media is evil and manipulative
I ditched it ages ago and it improved my life and mental wellbeing so much
Deleting the reddit app and picking up a book at night instead has drastically improved my life.
What kind of book? Porn book?
I agree with you
Was abt to install the app😹😹 thanks
@macro madeline Get rid of Reddit its extremely toxic
@macro madeline Yes you have been a good lady you can keep youtube lol
So sad, my daughter looks at movies from the 80s and 90s and wishes today was like then because she feels trapped by social media.
me too
I grew up in the 70s/80s and I miss them too......
She can escape. I haven't been on facebook in 5 years.
What's stopping her from leaving social media completely?
@@shaunpierce4174 likely all her friends communicate principally through social media, and she worries about loneliness and isolation if she leaves. Turns out that having a few in depth interactions in person or on the phone with the people you actually care about is more satisfying than having constant shallow interactions with everyone you know, but it don't necessarily look that way from the inside.
Crazy Fact :
He Is Not Just An Ordinary Person This Guy Is The One Who developed Virtual Reality And He is Also known as "Founding Father Of Vitual Reality"
A medium that was supposed to bring us all together has driven us farther apart and disconnected us from one another more than anything...
Social media is a "drug" that is designed to be addictive. Anyone who liberates themselves from these shackles is to be congratulated.
Exactly. It's the same reason tv was invented. Pure propaganda mostly; read Edward Bernays' book, (father of. public relations and advertising), "Propaganda," which you can download for free on archive.org. Plus tons of diverse items, and they don't keep track of you, since you don't have to register. Educational and fun online complete library.
anyone who has never had a problem with addiction dones't know the feeling. but now they do. when they leave sm. that;'s why you see so many ppl saying it was the best decsision, they are mroe productive. forced addiction. same with addicts who actually kicked their habit. same things. " iam so much more clear headed, productive, happy, ect"
Yet here you are
@@levonteking5040 lol yt isn't social media.
My blood pressure goes up when I get on social media. I've dumped Facebook and Twitter but I find myself scrolling through UA-cam for hours. I started doing it trying to find real news. But I've really got to cut it back. This guy is right and I despise this interviewer. He seems angry at the truth.
What scares me is that once I figured out how the manipulations on social media work, I realized how manipulative people are in real life too.
That was a hard one for me to accept. I hear you, girl!
At least you have caught on to it.
very much so ! True true
Damn you didn't had to go so hard on us!
There is manipulation everywhere
I hate the whole Social Media scene, and have never used it. Except for UA-cam...I absolutely LOVE and cannot stay off of UA-cam🤦♀️
"we aren't being evil so much as we are being stupid" very direct.... he isn't wrong. I hate being stupid. That comment hit me hard.
an algorithm brought me here
LOL me too!
czigany hugely underrated comment.
UA-cam's algorithms have put me in touch with all sorts of really cool stuff I hadn't considered, but which complement my existing interests. Including this Jaron Lanier dude. I have to help the algorithms by telling them that something they suggest is not of interest to me, but their over all effect has been benign in my experience.
Me2
Lol
Deactivated my accounts recently. I feel like I actually have time to think now.
I look at my phone every few minutes it's time to do the same. Almost don't have control!
🤗
Did you end up replacing that dopamine hit with something else by chance? It's hard to notice because it is so subtle, for example, getting rid of a FB account replacing that with Instagram or YT or something else? Just curious how was your process and how many accounts were you able to deactivate vs. delete, was it easy/hard/had to call them, etc...
I seriously need to do this!
I don’t think I could ever leave. I’m so addicted to posting photos that show complete strangers how hot I am.
A lot of you are commenting that you left social media x amount. However, UA-cam is a form of social media. I got off of IG 7 months ago but I am still on this app. My goal is to free myself from UA-cam and Reddit next.
33. Never had an Instagram/Snapchat/Twitter. Got rid of my Facebook so many years ago, I lost track of how long it’s been. All I notice now, when observing other people, is that notorious ‘thumb scroll’. People are constantly looking for a dopamine hit from social media, it’s obvious it’s an addiction. To be so overstimulated, that we cannot just sit still with ourselves, and just be, is absolutely tragic.
Love the way this guy carries himself and debates. It's a beautiful thing to watch him calmly address every question with love and wisdom.
Totally agree with you
Perfectly stated
I think he is a reincarnation of a Saadhu from the Himalayas.... those dreadlocks, that calmness... the wheel of Karma got him here.
Great comment, my feeling exactly
Thanks David!
Ten years of social media, it's been two months since I deleted them. I feel reborn and alive. I know what is important and not important now. People that don't matter aren't in my life anymore. And I found out who I actually mattered to. No more urges to share everything I do. Total tranquillity and freedom of personal space.
I feel like I’m at the tipping point...
Very inspiring thank you
Thank you! True!
My wife is going to cut off Facebook, today. She has suffered greatly, it has shredded my wife’s side of the family. She saw it this morning like never before. I’ve been off 2 years... never felt so good. I am eager to get my wife back!!
I'm not sure if people are depressed because of using social media.
But, younger people who's lives are empty will find social media overwhelmingly addictive because it creates the illusion that other people are interested in you--usually for very superficial image-related reasons.
So, you end up focusing on the purely superficial, still living an empty life with no goals or enthusiasm, and end up very depressed.
I'm an old guy (almost 45) and we didn't need social media to make us miserable. That's what schoolwork was for.
This guy was amazing at keeping calm and getting his point across without falling for any of the interviewer's provocations
The interviewer is not intelligent enough to throw this guy off...not by a long shot.
do you not understand how an interview works ?
he is putting questions forward to him that the audience may be asking at home in order to have answers for anyone that may be moking him.
the interviewer should be a conduit for the audience at home and play devils advocate in order to get some balance.
do you actually know another about Krishnan Guru-Murthy either?
It is normal to ask questions when interviewing someone that may do not aligned with your own views in order to get interesting answers for both sides.
@@lordamercy5609 Murthy isn't some great interviewer that's able to ask challenging questions the viewers at home might want to know, hes a pathetic douche that wants to provoke. Basically no one respects the dude. Look at his other interviews., the one with Rober Downey for instance. Hes incredibly unprofessional. Mistaking his bad faith questions with hard hitting journalism makes me question your ability to be critical of what the news media is shoving down our throats.
that's never the intent of an interview. it's not a debate. the interviewer asks stupid normie questions for a reason.
Yes these interviewers love to try and get one to take the bait and abandon their argument…very true
I strongly agree with him. I gave up all forms of social media platforms about 2 years ago and never looked back. No more phantom rings, no more time wasted scrolling endlessly, no more seeking validation through posts and comments. Best decision I've ever made!
Thumbs up if you're with the movement!
I deactivated my social media accounts a few days ago, and honestly the only thing I've missed is being able to ask local friends on facebook how bad the roads are after a recent snowstorm lol.
And yet here you are.. I don't blame you. I stopped Facebook but I really enjoy UA-cam.
@@SwissTanuki I know people have different opinions about this, but I don't really consider UA-cam to be social media in the way Facebook, instagram, snapchat, etc, are. To me, UA-cam is more like TV, or visible podcasts - at least, the channels I watch feel like that to me.
Except UA-cam......... Me too lol
UA-cam is social media. There are other users that you can interact with, it has the same addictive algorithms, the same data mining, etc. Not to say I'm any different. I deleted everything too, yet here I am
I just gave up my Facebook and Instagram and haven't gotten back on for two months. Not to get too personal but I have noticed that my mind has become much clearer in many aspects and I have wasted less time.
Same here
Nothing of this world is good for us, social media, junk food, fizzy drinks, and online dating. Nothing has any staying power. People have no friendships or relationships anymore. No wonder everyone is cranky and depressed!
All I can say to that is, amen!!.
Propaganda works best when those who are being manipulated are confident they are acting on their own free will. - Joseph Goebbels
they freely take part in BLM i see it now :O
Can you comment on how this guy looks
@@nofurtherwest3474 Why
@@Jaylade because i want to know your opinion
Didn't Joe get his playbook from Edward bernays?
Stop using social media and spend more time with your dog
Gabriel Borges ❤️ 🐶
This. Take your dog on a walk, play outside etc. and experience the world - or if you don't have a dog, just get away from social media. Facebook/Instagram etc. are the social/psychological equivalent of consuming nothing but McDonalds. It's bad for the psyche and the soul.
and then upload your dog pics to social media
i don't have a dog :(
Sounds good to me
I am continually amazed at this man's sense of ethical considerations, (un)common sense, and his ability to sound more 'amused' than frustrated... AND with simple ways of achieving better outcomes. Thank you Jaron - and anyone that's aired or interviewed him. 🙏
This simple fact that this had to be displayed on social media shows us there is little hope for change. Come back to this video next week to see if you actually changed for the better. If you did change then you wont end up back here
He is so right. A lot of young people nowadays are suffering from anxiety, depression and feeling suscidal because of social media. When we are young and going through the stage of trying to figure ourselves out, social media can become very toxic
Preachhhhhh
this is not because of social media its beacuse of their ignorent parents the governments steal their future.
Tamika Arnold you speak nothing but facts
@Rhondjé Mohan Singh TanwarI agree.. Who runs the communication rules the world, so it is a magic wand that is posibble to be used for good or bad.. Humanity must make a choise...
Tamika Arnold that conversation goes both way
I would listen to this guy explain absolutely anything. He's so good at making you feel not like he's preaching or talking down to you, but genuinely just wants to help you understand what he thinks.
Yeah, I agree with you. I like him a lot. He explains things in a way that is easy to understand, using a high level vocabulary.
he invented Virtual Reality if you didn't know. He has lots of good interviews.
That skeptical "new age hippie" question/accusation was harsh!!! He handled it so well. I love this man 😂😍💯
i think the key word here is "feel."
@dani cali no he doesn't, he is BEAUTIFULLY Jewish and has the same hair as me, a black person with nappy afro hair.
Jewish and black people are synonymous with one another in many ways, the afro hair, skin, bone structure, longevity etc. I absolutely LOVE them! As well as their amazing intelligence and unique features.
He is showcasing his locs in the same way we showcase ours (for those who have them), 'unapologetically' and wholly at one with himself ☘️
this interviewer is so daft it's hard to watch. If I was being interviewed by someone so obviously playing dumb to the obvious point I have made three or four times I would walk out. Good on Lanier for keeping so calm and respectful.
I’m 62, and I love Googling and learning science, medical and Christian sermons, I get depressed when sitting in a medical clinic and everyone has their head in their iPhone instead of paying attention to their surroundings
I agree, I'm usually the only person that sits on a train and looks out the window!
You're so right It sad it he used to be newspaper or checking a magazine
I quit facebook (deleted all my pictures, changed my name, dislike all the pages I liked, erased everything, and closed my account), since October 2017. Now it's June 2018, and my life is way better.
I actually can sleep better nowdays. And all of those feelings of anger, sadness, and such... disappeared.
We all owe to ourselves, to live a life without facebook.
Same here. However, I just deleted the account... I feel better now.
NothingMatress did it in about 2012/2013 (I was on it in December 2006 though)
Don’t regret it at all
NO MA'AM lol!
Also Instagram and snapchat
No Mam, Facebook could care less about me.
The worse part of social media is the FOMO that develops.. news flash, you are missing more in life by being on there. Been off for two and a half years. My overall happiness is increased exponentially
Derwood Ellington I deleted Snapchat, Instagram and Facebook, I’m 17, used to always compare my life to others and go down rabbit holes and sit on my phone for hours. This has all stopped. I am a much happier person 👍🏼
K13ran you are way ahead of 99% of most people.. keep it up
Derwood Ellington :)
wtf is FOMO
Hypnos36 fear of missing out
This guy is brilliant.. Calmly answering every question with validity.
❤exposing the corporate social media platforms is good. We are mentally depressed and socially disconnected ❤
Yes! 100%.
At first I thought ‘ who is this guy ‘ by the end I thought ‘ legend ‘
katyavideos wow what an obnoxious knob 😂
katyavideos where did you get western or atheist from ? I’m Indian and a spiritualist, self employed and answer to no one. You may want to rethink how you ‘try’ to read people because your failing miserably.
For the record, I already thought this belief system before I found this video, my comment referred to him looking like a hippy !
Total legend
shouldnt judge a book by is cover
the downfall of human interaction all started when a device intended for socializing turned everybody anti-social.
I was born in 97, from what i experienced in school, aim, myspace and fb made people social, it was INSTAGRAM that ruined everything in 10th grade, the power it gave to girls, facebook was less serious more fun app
CJ Rocky no I’ve actually grown more social with the internet
@@All0utj3rk agree 100%
@Benny Ramos actually page me instead
With Virtual reality you can interact over distances like you do in real life. It has the presence of being in the room with them.
I felt like the interviewer was trying to defend being on social media. It sounded like he was taking it personally. The interviewee did agreat job at answering his questions. Made some really great points
I used to get depressed when no one checked out my content, then I realized that in this day and age it's a compliment to actually have a following (no matter how small it is) so nowadays I am VERY proud of my 97 subscribers. But the downside of social media is that we've turned society into a crackhouse where we shiver in the corner waiting to get an endorphin fix when someone likes our posts.
The interviewer's final comment was crass. The guy set out his position pretty eloquently, and he's a valley insider who understands its motives and methods perfectly. Because Lanier has dreds, a black T shirt and a gentle demeanour he's dismissing him as an idealist utopian. On the positive side a "hippie" got 21 minutes to put across a point that normally gets a 30 second slot between smirks from a male-female news anchor team.
It was a question, not a statement. He was giving him the opportunity to defend himself against an obvious attack.
The attack would only come from the small minded who can't get past the way he looks to listen to the things he's saying. Same way as if Lanier said, "you're only asking that because you're an Asian guy in a suit". It's unnecessary. Lanier is an expert in his field, and lots of cutting edge computer guys who build the world we inhabit look like homeless people.
You don't need to be a valley insider to know what facebook is all about.
Guru-Murthy is just being his obnoxiously unprofessional self.
So, the moral Borderlands....RESPECT Homeless people. They seem to have worked out the world.I sat and shared my dinner with one last week. Beyond doubt, he was possibly one of the sharpest razors in the pack...and then some.
Anybody can find themselves homeless. I was there during the eighties. Always fascinates me about some folk's great memories of the eighties. Mine were sh*t...as were most of my friend's lives. Maybe folk forget the bad times too easily. Pushed me into becoming a published pro songwriter...WITH A VOICE..hence...
""" DAYS OF AUSTERITY """
Verse 1
Flashy cars are passing me,
In these days of austerity,
..Which make no sense at all,
Pre-chorus.
Ohh..how can the rich have a ball??,
When most of us starve or fall,
And can barely afford food,
Or anything... good,
..God, it makes no sense at all.
CHORUS
IF YOU CAN HEAR ME,..HEAR ME!!!!,
IT'S TOUGH TRYING TO BREATHE..NEARLY,
LET ALONE, SURVIVE, IT SEEMS,
AND A LITTLE UNDERSTANDING,
AND A LITTLE UNDERSTANDING,
MIGHT HELP...PLEASE.
Verse 2
These scars are breaking through,
This skin of mine, once tough,
And which takes some getting use to,
It takes some getting used to.
PRE- CHORUS here again.
CHORUS here again.
BRIDGE/MIDDLE EIGHT.
AS FOR ENCOURAGEMENT, MR GOVERNMENT,
Maybe you could ration,
A little compassion,
Once in a while,
It could be fashioned,
With a little tongue lashing,
But not like your..current style.
CHORUS here again.
Finito.
Copyrighted(Sonic Foxx Music)
I've deactivated all my social media because I am sick of how antisocial it makes everyone
You are how it should be.
I don't use instagram or Facebook they are filled with weird stuff mostly Facebook and I am addicted to discord now due to lockdown I don't know how or what should I do 😔 now I have a server with 3.8k+ members including my online friends
You forgot UA-cam.
What about youtube?
Wow you are a hero...faaaarrrtttt
This is exactly what I've been trying to tell people since 2014 that social media is doing to us. I know this in my heart it just hurts me to see everyone I've tried to share this with act like an abused wife they will justify why it's okay to continue being manipulated by these services....
Why does the interviewer of a media news station act so surprised about this brilliant explanation of the influence of media and this vicious cycle so many people are addicted to. It’s like he acts like a fish out its own water.