why is Sisyphus happy?
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This whole pretentious argument is ridiculous. First off you look at all of this on a grand scale while talking about doing something for the action.. do you not see the irony? You live in the action already and will never acknowledge the grand scale because you never get to see the totality of your life. Not only that but guess what the main point of the psychology was? What do you do NEXT. Yes you can accept your current situation but the point is to be able to retake your control and move to your next position. Your entire argument relies upon the fact there's some dull enough and uninspired enough to feel contented in menial situations so therefore Sisyphus MUST be one of them right? It couldn't possibly be there's something deeper to an ETERNAL punishment that never changes. Not to mention this whole idea relies on the idea that nothing you accomplish will ever make you happy.. bro you're just living wrong lmao. Plenty of people reach their goals and are contented in their life with that goal. It doesn't have to be an uphill struggle unless you make it one. Oh and please learn to speak without sounding like a pretentious ass English major like God damn we get it you think you're really eloquent or whatever but you just sound like a tool trying to wax poetic about nothing at all. Text book pretentiousness.
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I've fallen deep into despair once I've wish to escape reality and I did my only memories are 2 weeks but 1 year has passed I've lost most of my memories when I came back be careful what you wish for
I have a very different take on the Sisyphus story: Sisyphus was a man that tricked the gods, so much so that they gave him an attention in the afterlife that is only given to a handful of people (or groups, there is that one group of 50 sisters tasked to fill bottomless containers with water, but I digress). Sisyphus basically beat the game of life. He has accomplished everything there was for him to accomplish. And now he chooses to be happy, because he doesn’t regret anything. The whole reason why he is down there, pushing that boulder, is to make him regret, but he beat the very gods and therefore he is happy.
One must imagine Sisyphus 55 happy.
What happened to the other 54? 🤔
@@jzlazy1057 Not enough people imagined them happy
I can only imagine.
It’s all up hill from here!
What if unhappiness is his choice huh
“Is there a lore reason for sisyphus to be happy? Is he stupid?”
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@@Olvin_ I'm proud of you, Dick
Everyone imagines Sisyphus happy but no one asks him if he's happy
He's busy
he lived his life rebelling against the gods, he is not happy
@@needy3535oh sounds good though
@@needy3535100% same
@@needy3535 dude tricked Death twice and gets to work out for eternity in return. That would sound pretty sweet to some.
"One must imagine sissyphus oiled up twerking"
Wth
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cringy af
@@aymanla471Being cringe is being happy
I already did bruv, give me another one
Alternative title: Is there a lore reason why Sisyphus is happy? Is he stupid?
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I'm proud of you Dick
Thank goodness, I have been wondering this for a while. Most of it stems from “If Sisyphus is happy, why am I unhappy? How did he do it?”
he trolled the gods, have you?
He is not real.
If you want to be happy you also have to be not real.
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Honestly though I spend around 60% of my waking hours daydreaming, and it's in those times that I am truly happy.
Watching UA-cam videos about geopolitics or refugees don't make me happy.
Going outside in the dry heat doesn't make me happy.
Talking to painfully insufferable or blissful ignorant or happily unaware people doesn't make me happy.
Watching movies where genetically gifted individuals mog the, desperate and angry, aggrieved populations doesn't make me happy.
The way I see it, Sissyphus isn't happy because of his eternal ordeal. Rolling a boulder is miserable and useless. Maybe he is happy because what led Zeus to drive him to his situation was worth it:
He brought water for his city, was chased by the god of death (thanatos) and collared the dude, then Ares freed Thanatos and our hero went to Hades.
However, because Sissyphus asked his wife not to bury him, he was able to convince the lord of the Underworld to release him for a day - to get a proper burial - and the mortal just ran and died of old age. You see: he fucked around so much with several gods and his punishment was a mere boulder and an unclimbable hill?
Right now I'm in the middle of a depressive episode due to BP II. I can't do shit, but it doesn't matter, because by following through my ordeal, I'm going to get better (and then worse, and then better). I'm working to make things less worse and a bit better. Running, socializing, avoiding THC... I know the way, I just need to march on.
@@notfunny3397 HELL YEAH DEREALIZATION
Note that this video isn't about being happy. It's about not caring about how shitty most people's lives are and moving on, which is toxic as fuck, frankly.
I’ve been diagnosed with severe Major Depressive Disorder for awhile now, and since the beginning I’ve been asking myself why. I’ve never found the answer, but every time I watch one of your videos, I feel that I get a little bit closer. Please know that your content does not fall on deaf ears. If nothing else, you’ve made a difference for me.
I have also been diagnosed with Major Depression Disorder, and I want to share that like Sisyphus, it is a struggle that may be without cause, a journey that has no destination. Like the video implies, there may be no point where we reach the end of our depression and be free of it, but the act of self improvement and seeking joy allows us to be free of the longing it gives. I really wish you the best and hope we can find joy in our boulders and hills. :)
Acts 16:31 Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved
Keep swimming my friend. I wish nothing but sunnier days for you, truly.
@@brianindiana9375yeah because christians dont have problems lol
@@XrayTheMyth23We do, that is why we call on Jesus.
is there a lore reason why the indomitable human spirit occasionally gives me the motivation to push on in spite of my dire circumstances? Am I stupid?
no you just remember, you're happys
Yes
"There's nothing wrong in looking for a better world"
Maybe we are all stupid ;-;
The last line "What has happened has happened, and what will happen is never guaranteed. Now, what will you do next?" sums up this whole video and I love it
I'll check out. Literally nothing here, in anything Camus wrote, or what any other philosopher has written seems to actually suggest why checking out isn't the rational response to this situation, beyond operating on the assumption that like existing despite being a big pile of shit is a moral good.
The most telling thing, to me, is that the Benevolent World Exploder of negative utilitarianism was suggested as a way of mocking that philosophy, but the only argument against it is "...but that can't possibly be right, though."
@@colbyboucher6391 They misquoted the last line a bit. He said, "What would you like to do next?" That means if you truly want to check out then go ahead. That's what you want to do. It's not the wrong decision. There are no wrong decisions.
Just listen to your thoughts and feelings and decide what to do next. I have never personally felt a strong urge to stop existing so I can't be sure, but I don't think you really want to stop existing. I mean put simply, you're alive, and alive things tend to want to stay alive. You can figure it out.
@@pickle380 Yes, and alive things mainly want to stay alive because of an irrational evolutionary drive to do so, so I'm ignoring that and operating on basic logic.
@@colbyboucher6391 what logic? genuine question
@@pickle380 - Most people spend the majority of their lives doing things that they either tolerate or actively dislike.
- When this is pointed out, the typical response is "that's being an adult, get used to it", unless the point hits home hard enough in which case they'll instead say "what do you mean? I'm perfectly happy with my life", despite that same person insinuating otherwise if they were slightly more bitter that day.
- Simple "math"- there's no reason to act as though doing fulfilling / enjoyable/ whatever things somehow "outweighs" the monotony and vague suffering of daily life (or the sharper suffering that everyone experiences some times, many people _most_ of the time depending on where you happen to live). The only reason we choose to pretend that the OK bits are more important is that evolutionary drive I brought up.
- I don't believe that this is a reality that anyone actually has the ability to fix.
- It follows that not living any longer is a better outcome for most people than living, because the majority of that time is spent somewhat miserable anyways.
I've always been stuck on the specific choice of the word "must imagine" as in "One MUST IMAGINE Sisyphus happy, because the alternative, or to OBSERVE HIS REALITY, would be unbearable."
"One must imagine Sisyphus happy" - an absurd answer to the question whether to end one's own life.
Exactly what I was thinking.
We must imagine him happy because it gives us hope. I mean, of course, even after learning to live with himself for eternity, and having found things that provide some sense of meaning and purpose and joy to Sisyphus - he still must definitely have episodes of sadness, and depression, and all the negative things.
We must nevertheless, imagine the dude happy. Because he's bigger than himself, he represents our journeys and torments and helplessness, and perseverance. We must imagine him happy, because if it weren't for distractions, and delusions, and inspiring metaphors, and hope, and poetry, and stories, and art, life would be unbearable. We must imagine him happy, because we need him to seem happy. And he must be happy because he should be happy.
@@shivambhanushali3086 you imagine him happy BECAUSE in life he was king. a king far above and FAR REMOVED from the simple mechanics of life. he cheats death, he considered himself above that too, only if just to fool for the sake but if he really believes he deserves life, this will only strengthen my point. Kings deserve respect, i imagine even in punishment. Not a common place death but a terrible and gruesome to make point of, which is the point, that this person falling has meaning.
He is given for ever, to lord over. A task to accomplish, that represents life roughly, with a more brutal take on the matter because of sisyphus' own life choices. Not only is Sisyphus attempting to outplay the Gods again, he totally believes he can. He already has before right? The punishment is specifically designed to bait Sisyphus into pushing the boulder and buying time. If the punishment wasn't chosen with that angle in mind. Every single time he pushes is another moment that the gods have to "ignore" his resistance.
Sisyphus maybe even learned what true responsibility is. He might feel rewarded for finally coming to terms with his mortality but placed amongst/beside/apart gods. or differentiated from other mortals who have less spectacular afterlives.
Its the fact that he gets to push that boulder FOREVER that makes it feel like he won more than he lost in his mind. For his audacity, all he gets to do is impress/disturb the gods and leave all mortals alone lol
@@shivambhanushali3086holy
I think, for Camus, that the universe holds no meaning, but we desire to find meaning, we are stuck in an absurd position. Therefore, we must imagine because its the part of our faculties which is not really searching for meaning, our imagination is not bound within the absurd in the same way our reason is. Our imagination exists to freely play. Have you ever caught yourself daydreaming having gone off an absolutely absurd train of thought where you look back and can't remember how you even got there? So, to merely observe his reality through our rational faculties is to be stuck observing a meaningless situation and are lost searching for some sort of meaning. But through imagination we can perhaps let go of that anxiety, at least a little.
I think human society has been in a realm of the rational and verifiable that we have suppressed our ability to imagine. We tell ourselves that our ancestors lived horrid lives of fear and pain, that food was scarce and terror around every corner. Is this the case, or is it that we couldn't imagine living in a world that wasn't so rationalized as it is today? We must imagine Sisyphus,, because we must relearn how to imagine.
my friends bio was “i like to imagine sisyphus happy” for years. he’s passed now, but this reminded me of him :)
You have my sincerest condolences. What did he pass from, if you don’t mind me asking?
One must imagine Camus so miserable that Sisyphus looked happy by comparison.
My dad died suddenly a week ago. It was not unexpected or understood by anybody. Including the doctors. And the "what ifs" Ive experienced were the worst thing I've ever felt.
So thank you for this video.
my condolences
My condolences, friend
I am so sorry to hear that. My heart goes out to you for your loss. ❤
I'm so, so sorry for your loss. Wishing you strength and may your dad RIP. This happened to one of my cats last year and I still haven't recovered from the shock, powerlessness and denial that hit. I can't imagine how much more intense those feelings would've been if I were on your shoes instead.
Remember how much you enjoyed your life with him. Remember the good ans beautiful and cry. I believe grief is love, just a lost type of love, unable to find its recopient it gets sad
"one must imagine sisyphus happy" is a thought that has been constantly on my mind lately. when i sent a ton of messages to get an "ok" "yeah" "idk" in return. when i kept throwing up everyday for three months. when i felt a cold crawling inside of my arms and shoulders upon hearing something that broke me. when i keep loving someone who hurt me badly.
That sounds like a lot to go through. You're strong.
Did you seek medical help for throwing up every day, or do you know why that was happening?
May god give you peace and good health
@@kexerino i went to a lot of doctors. spent all my money on them. obv it was caused by immense stress. regular doctors found nothing other from a weird heart rate.
psychiatrist prescribed me meds that almost made me kill myself. they also made me threw up, but that was a thing before medication. a triggering thought was enough. lost 7 kgs in 2 months, never lost so much so fast. went to a psychotherapist, too. it helped for like a week after an appointment, but not much. after a couple of sessions i ran out of money. almost got expelled. literally was living in a nightmare.
changed medication to one that worked awhile ago (was told to take a different one because "those meds are not enough if you relapsed"). and it worked, tho i was feeling sick for some time, now i'm not in a constant state of feeling like there's a void inside me, the world is dreadful and the mental loneliness will never go away. also used to feel like i will die soon because i won't be able to stop myself. the situation that caused this is kinda better now, but i'm afraid of being crushed and feeling all of this again. brain chemistry is weird. tonight i feel like i was not made to ever be happy and satisfied. the only way for me to cope with this is others' satisfaction, so my life kinda went to pleasing others over everything that i could do if i cared for myself
You should really seperate yourself from that person. Maybe not hate because they're human, but only through seperation will you, and maybe they will get better. Indifference can be part of that seperation
@@Breakaway-ic5gj i don't think i can find the strength to separate from them, it's my best friend afterall, even after making a mistake and bringing me pain. i'm bpd, so it both affects the intenseness of my feelings and being unable to let go. i know that some day the circumstances might leave me no choice but to go away, but for now i'm too afraid to lose something good and be left alone in the world that i don't like and only have me, and i don't value myself to bear this. it's a desperate situation, i don't see a good way for me that i could act on right now, but it doesn't really get worse, there is still good left to hold on to
We must imagine Sisyphus happy because _he must have learned by now how to live with himself for eternity._
And we must imagine him happy because it gives us hope. I mean, of course, even after learning to live with himself for eternity, and having found things that provide some sense of meaning and purpose and joy to Sisyphus - he still must definitely have episodes of sadness, and depression, and all the negative things.
We must nevertheless, imagine the dude happy. Because he's bigger than himself, he represents our journeys and torments and helplessness, and perseverance. We must imagine him happy, because if it weren't for distractions, and delusions, and inspiring metaphors, and hope, and poetry, and stories, and art, life would be unbearable. We must imagine him happy, because we need him to seem happy. And he must be happy because he should be happy.
@@shivambhanushali3086 real life, therefore, is a parallel to the myth of Sisyphus
History doesn't quite repeat itself, but it does go on and on in endless cycles, akin to a boulder being hefted up a mountainside, rolling back down, and being shoved heavenward again. Forever.
Each reset could be represented as another Sisyphus, or another human generation.
It is therefore of the utmost priority that we equip the next generation with better happiness.
Such has been the way for humanity's 200,000 years of existence. And with luck, we will continue on for 800,000 long years more.
Humanity must learn to live with itself for eternity, or more realistically, the rest of its existence before it evolves into something new or goes extinct
@@Brambrew makes sense, yes! Where are you from? Let's become friends!
@@shivambhanushali3086 United States, you?
@@Brambrew India
I always interpreted it as "one MUST imagine Sisyphus happy" because fathoming eternal suffering would break anyone. It's a demand, a requirement to remain sane
Agreed. I always read it as more like a suggestion / warning to the audience to not dwell on it too deeply, as it's just too awful to consider the reality. In a sense, then, the could even be read as a form of sarcasm / or as a sardonic warning.
One must imagine Sisyphus 55 dropping another instant classic on a wednesday morning.
i love this video, it is so hard to find people explaining the process of being happy rather then them just spouting philosophy and not actually giving any path towards it.
Seek God. Here's the process, ask God to prove to you that he exists. Once you do that with an open mind you're guaranteed to find peace and happiness eventually, although the process is full of pain and suffering. You can thank God later.
@@austinlockwood8818Might also ask from santaclaus aswell. That'll do them as much good.
@@austinlockwood8818Believing in God is just another coping mechanism, to justify your suffering by saying "God has something better planned for me".
You could believe in God if you want, we all need a scar-tissue for surviving in the burdens life puts on our shoulders.
The mistake is that people can't imagine the possibility of their version of God being wrong. They trick themselves into believing there can't be another God other than the one they've built in their mind. So tragedy and chaos begin once again.
@@kyaniteblue4929 Tragedy and chaos are necessary. The concept explored in the rat utopia experiment does appear to apply to human civilization as well. Death and rebirth are essential in nature. These things drive us to become better. I believe they were part of a plan. Regardless of it being planned, it still is what it is and things still do what they do. You don't need to believe in the plan for you to be a part of it.
@@austinlockwood8818 True that tragedy and chaos are necessary, but not in this particular argument.
We're causing harm for various make-beliefs.
Nature brings enough harm as it is, through tsunami, earthquakes, volcano eruptions, decay and weakness of the human body, it's the only necessary chaos and tragedy.
We don't need to fight and objectify our version of God.
It's all just a coping mechanism to live a happier, healthier life.
We could simply view morality and sanity through the lens of owing it to ourselves and the world, instead of creating Gods in our head.
I'm not saying that God doesn't exist. I'm only saying that human understanding of God differs from the other, henceforth causing unnecessary division between mankind.
Going through a topic like this without mentioning the ancient stoics at all is a commendable feat
Yeah this video is exactly what the stoics teach
@@Le89kor2I don't think it's really the same. The stoics were more focused on maintaining a façade of solemnity rather than actively pursuing happiness.
@howlrichard1028 that is not at all what I got from my readings. How did you get this interpretation?
@howlrichard1028 i disagree. I think that charcterization of stoicism is mischaracterized from small quotes. Stoicism is much deeper then that. Regardless of whether we agree on if the message is the same even the word choices ie amor fati, equinimity, and the aspects of control are linked to stoicism.
@@basb7545 I dont exactly agree with his interpretation directly but still there is something to be said about how the stoics specifically practiced, or at the very least heavily advocated for, a form of asceticism from standardly accepted joy and pleasure because of the impossibility of achieving pleasure without inherent suffering. You can see this is thinkers like Epicurus and Aurelius as both had differing views on exactly how one should tackle this issue but nevertheless both seem to heavily agree on the core philosophy. You might think "this sounds like Buddhism" and yes I am arguing that at the core there is this same focus. However the buddhists moved towards a more complete and radical renouncement of desire while say the epicureans move towards maximizing simple pleasures and denouncing complex pleasures.
Please note this interpretation is heavily influenced by Nietzsche which didn't have an amazing view on stoicism in his later philosophy.
Sisyphus is invited to the goon sesh 👍
He can't he is busy
i love that r/BatmanArkham reference
I like to imagine that if ever having reached the top of the hill he would willingly choose to roll it back down again, maybe even on his own terms ,knowing the walk up was worthwhile.
Damn bro, thanks for the new thought
I hope sisyphus 55 is doing alright, too
Hi Sisyphus55, even though I’ve been following your channel for over 3 years now, I still don’t know your name, appearance, nationality or anything that’d make me feel somehow closer to you, and yet, through your calm voice, slight tone of humor and sarcasm, and genius scripting, I still can’t help but feel an enormous admiration for you and happiness for how far your channel has come. Through so many of your videos I learned such valuable life lessons that helped me through difficult times, as well as insights that assisted me on understanding all of that which I thought was unexplainable about my mind and the way I think about things. Thank you so much, and I hope you keep pursuing your ikigai. 👊
This is the exact line of thinking that gives me motivation to improve myself. Which got me out of a long depression.
Started going to the gym, running, self reflecting, and working on the things I thought were holding me back from my goals.
Is there a lore reason why Sisyphus is happy?
Is he stupid?
Is he stupid?
He used the power wrench to trigger a controlled explosion
- Is he stupid?
- No, he's just a masochist.
So he is happy and permanently aroused.
No, he just created a new character. What should he name it?
He should name it man
Crazy timing I feel like I need this right now lmao
Edit: I was right, this is just what I needed to hear. Thank you and I wish you all luck on pushing your boulders
All his videos come at great timing
This is a video I’ve been looking forward to for a while. A few months ago, in my high school philosophy club, the topic of discussion was about the happiness of Sisyphus, and as you would expect, the conversations were insightful. It’s amazing to see Sisyphus 55 talk about this topic!
Also, for anyone who hasn’t checked out Pursuit of Wonder, I really recommend you to watch him - if you enjoy watching content from Sisyphus, I’m sure you would enjoy his content as well. I haven’t read his book yet, but it is a book that I have been thinking about buying.
"We must immagine Sysiphus Happy" mfs when they actually ask themselfs why the fuck should he be happy:
maybe watch the video
@@kingcrimson4133 No, I did--it's still a bullshit argument.
@@percussionfellow6168 If this idea was stupid it wouldn't be part (or some form of it) of every major religion spanning multiple cultures and multiple eras. Don't let the simplicity of the idea fool you, it's a very smart attitude to hold in life in general. You can even see this idea manifest in less sophisticated animals. For example, when a deer gets its leg bitten off by some predator does it wallow in its misfortune? If it's still alive and able, it'll keep getting up every morning to eat and move with its herd. Similarly, the video provides the example of Nazi concentration camps which is another great example of how powerful this idea is. A research article I read a while back noticed (from accounts of the people in that time) that people who have this world view had a higher chance to survive the concentration camps than those who gave into the despair. You can even see it manifesting in the works of Anne Frank - the beauty she found in life while she was at the concentration camps. You can also find a similar idea in The Gulag Archipelago by Solzhenitsyn. David Goggins comes to mind too. The reason we find so many instances of this idea is not a coincidence.
@@percussionfellow6168Enjoy staying unhappy, then
@@Marcelelias11 big brain reply
*_One must imagine Sisyphus in a flow state_*
You feel as though you're pushing around a rock; sturdy, firm, and strong.
Meanwhile, _I_ feel as though I've been pushing around nothing but shit all my life.
I'm no Sisyphus; I'm a fuckin dung beetle.
That might be easier, those guys can pick up a bit of speed
And Sisyphus Beetle has chosen both
@@JarOfTorben Underrated comment lmao.
That's friggin rad dude beetles are sick
Except the dung beetle pushes the shit for hours on for the sake of its children, the larvae depends on the dung for survival and growth, so the dung beetle must roll and roll until it finds the right spot to raise its young.
This is an amazing essay that summarizes it all in my opinion! From this we can stem into many different themes but this came at a very good time for me. Very well done and keep it up!
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I usually don’t comment, like ever, but this video compelled me to tell you the topics you touch upon in these videos continuously make my life easier and I really appreciate the good and honest work you put out here. So much resonated with me in this video particularly, I know I’ll be coming back to this one for quite a few times.
Having your videos pop up in my for you feed is always a treat. I find myself always sitting down and watching your videos properly, unlike how i may with others, and always end up a bit more at piece. You remind me to focus a bit more on myself and to not worry so much, that i can be at peace. Thank you
Is there a lore reason for sisyphus to be happy?
is he stupid?
what else is he supposed to do but be happy
Oh my fucking god, I knew it, the reddit has breached here too
Yeah, he actually tried to trick the Greek gods, and he succeeded, and they punished him with a task that could never be completed for eternity, but they kind of forgot that he already evaded death, and he loved life so much that he succeeded, and they were mad!
Also, he was ancient Roman, so he was also a PDF file…
Most of ancient Roman Roman culture was like that to be fair, not to PDF files, but just to Romans and their history.
Pretty sure that’s a very common cultural hurdle for every society; the whole PDF file thing!
I mean how could it not be
"Why is Sisyphus happy"
"Is he stupid?"
Checks out
watching this on a the comedown of a baaad acid trip. this video is exactly what i needed. idk how it found me but it did and i’m so grateful lol
Did you have any expectation that you were going to have a bad trip? I’m always pretty wary of my current mental/environmental health before taking psychs.
One must imagine Sisyphus is actually Capyphus, cursed to forever pull up.
i love this
The fight itself towards the summits suffices to fill a heart of man; it is necessary to imagine Sisyphus happy.
I'm glad you made this video as ever since learning of Sisyphus it made me wonder how Sisyphus is happy with the mundanity and frivolousness task which may never be completed. Even if his task is to never be completed he has a purpose of which is to push the boulder up the hill, he has a goal defined for him by others allowing him to work towards it in an endless cycle. In my mind Sisyphus is quite different than how Camus portrays him, as a man with nothing to lose nor gain except his own life given a task seemingly endless as it may be could not make him happy for long as the endless mundanity continues but instead it would make him become dull, blank, or empty as he refuses to think of the point of it all as he already knows that their is no predetermined or predestined goal in existence so given the task of pushing a boulder up a hill which he may do for the rest of his days though might not be logical he will continue to do so for his own frail humanity. So as he continues to live Sisyphus is not happy nor sad he is instead in a trance like state pushing the boulder up in a cycle of mundanity, he continues to live not because he is happy as he does not need to be happy to live, instead he lives to simply exist still experiencing something as his brain pushes against the inevitability of death.
I write this to provide insight into my own beliefs as well as hopefully get feedback from others to understand my own flaws or if my argument seems to be nonsensical.
your argument seems sound. i would call that dying inside. you die inside, and you just follow your routine because your self-preservation instinct is urging you to survive. that might be why people work jobs they despise - if they leave, they'll lose their money and thus their ability to feed and house themselves. in the end everything they do will fade, but right now their brain wants them to survive, so they accept their lot and shut up.
Speechless, always feel like crying by the end of your videos, thank you for existing and sharing this type of content. Hugs**
18:30 - 19:15 was such a beautiful segment, thank you for that, I felt something in me that I didn’t know existed
Something that always bothered me about using this as a guide to life is that, unlike Sisyphus, we don't know what is going to happen next. We know we will die eventually but we don't know that we will be rolling the same rock. I think it would be easier to be happy if I knew exactly what I would be doing forever. If there was no hope for any other outcome.
The rock symbolizes challenges. Challenge is the only constant in life, just like the rolling stone is for Sisyphus. You can always expect to experience another challenge just around the corner, no matter how blissful your life seems atm.
I agree with the other comment, I think another important part of the myth of Sisyphus is that it can be interpreted as a commentary on finitude. Human beings, if given an infinite amount of time, will still not live a life devoid of challenge. It is this infinite punishment of rolling a boulder up the hill that serves to teach us that challenge is a permanent state of existence, some harder than others but the mentality is in order to leave that state of learned helplessness that nothing will change that your life is a revolving door, you must imagine Sisyphus happy. And unlike Sisyphus we might finally push the boulder all the way up the mountain, we might achieve the things that we desire in life but that does not satisfy us there is always something to long for in life, there is always something higher to achieve. If Sisyphus managed to roll the boulder all the way up the mountain, what would he do?
You can do the math if you know and are honest about your ability
@@nothanks9503maybe if I could predict the economy lol. Kinda hard to buy this after graduating in 2020. There's a nonzero chance I might need to leave the country if some politics don't land in my favor. I'm hopeful but you can't predict that stuff.
@@Jeryme1I resent the idea that you can just combine every "challenge" in life into one category. As if struggling in school or work is like waiting for a kidney or living through war. I can't put my finger on it but it feels like thats not directly acknowledged when talking about these subjects. Viktor Frankl's "Man's Search For Meaning" has plenty of lessons but it doesn't attempt to find joy/acceptance in the Holocaust itself, for example. Like those types of atrocities are not just "a part of life" that we can't avoid as human beings.
this video changed my life, thank you man.
Internet brainrot has done irreversible damage by the saying "why is ____, is he stupid?" I blame you batman arkham
I... I thought that's the point of the catchphrase. That he's not happy, but people (including himself) must think so to ease their mind. It's basically equal to "it is what it is" saying.
Didn't know that this is not already understood by everyone.
Why must we think of him as happy? Is an eternal state of suffering and boredom too heavy for the mind? How is it even possible to succeed in lying to oneself after the realization?
@@Human-san after an eternity of time it must be a rollercoaster of emotions happiness is one of them included as one of the destinations
Tremendous video, I appreciate how your visuals interacted with the spoken content. Hats off to you!
This was immensely comforting, thank you, sincerely.
He's happy because he knows he will eventually appear in ultrakill
The collab of my 2 fav philosophical youtubers of 3!
A collab i wanted , needed but probably did not deserve
Technically he sponsored it but it works for me rn
I'm content
One must imagine me happy
My father sent me this today after I voiced some of the concerns mentioned in the video. This helps a lot, thank you so much.
Thanks for the video, it's sometimes rough, but this video cheered me up. Instead of feeling out of control, watching this helped give me peace today. These videos always make me feel like I learned something new about myself, and I enjoy that.
I cannot help but to see these ideas of Sisyphus being happy as just mad ramblings, but as long as it resonates with at least someone, it's good.
This video is a pretty accurate definition on the philosophy I've been sculpting for the last months. It got me nodding my head all the way through.
thank you, i don’t feel as anxious after watching this video
I love this video, it tackles so many different concepts I've been struggling with in such a comprehensive way.
I’m pretty sure it’s a sarcastic response to the fact that Sisyphus spent his life evading being brought to Hades, a meaningless existence, and so therefore he is now doing the meaningless task of rolling the rock up a mountain, only for it to fall, for eternity. “One must imagine Sisyphus happy” because he is only continuing to do what he did in life.
I think the reason most people struggle to accept their Selves as that being that reacts and responds to their surroundings (as was explained towards the start of the video, though i could have misunderstood something) rather than any one or combination of facegs of their personalities is that such a definition ties one's geniune exists to the world around them. If there is nothing around you for you to react to, you would not actually sense or feel your Self. And considering people's desire to see their Selves as eternal and independent, such a definition can be hard to accept.
thanks for posting this, i and i think a lot of other people needed this :D
Thank you, I needed this. I've been struggling again to find meaning lately, and this helps put into words some of the strategies and patterns of thought I've been finding helpful. I'm also happy to see you being sponsored by Pursuit of Wonder, I love both channels and would love to get his book, as I think that would be helpful too.
I CAN'T ESCAPE FROM THE ASLUME
10:35
*_WHO’S GONNA CARRY THE BOATSSSSSS_*
*_AND THE LOGSSSSSSS_*
Great video man, keep em coming
Another one of the classics! Great job!
"Fuck it, we ball."
I don't think the question is "why is Sisyphus happy" rather, "Why must I imagine Sisyphus as happy even if he isn't"
Because coping.
Your work is really great, but this video in particular is something special. This is exactly what I’ve been needing to hear, and I appreciate all the effort you put into making these. Keep on rollin’ that boulder, and enjoying the view…both on the way down and up. 👍🏻
Wow man, this really spoke to me. I get it now. I really appreciate your videos man i dont think id be here without the videos youve made and on how to keep going. Thank you
If that thumbnail is an Arkham Subreddit reference, I would lose my mind.
It's absurd how he just so happens to upload this video at the time where I was listening to me and the birds???
I live for these videos man
This is your best one yet. Thank you.
Hope you guys have a great day
You too friend
If the reason for happiness is owed to the good in me and the world, why isn't sadness owed to the bad and the worse in me and the world?
Also, as the bad in me is far far far beyond the good that ever can possibly be, it makes more sense to be sad instead.
If both hope and despair are pointless, might as well imagine Sisyphus depressed... what difference is it going to make?
You always manage to make the perfect videos at the perfect time for me to find them. Thank you for helping me with these videos man, seriously it's insanely thought provoking. Thank you Sisyphus
This is a fantastic video. Great job distilling and comparing all these different philosophies!
Brother has been browsing the arkham sub.
Good Stuff
i simply had to leave a comment here. for the last two days ive been watching your videos because i'm in a bit of a tough spot mentally right now. this video helped me IMMENSELY yesterday, and it was also fun to kind of learn the origin of the whole "one must imagine sisyphus happy" thing since it's kind of become a meme?? I honestly just wanted to say how much I appreciate and will continue to appreciate this channel for helping me right now and surely many more times to come. Thank you so much!!
Sisyphus always know when to post. Much love for your work.
Sissiphus is definitely a member of the Aslume
So I'm writing a philosophy paper on the Myth of Sisyphus due tomorrow, but I didn't know how to properly apply it and I'm was about to fail. You've just saved my grade for that semester. I am in your debt.
Goodluck with your paper!! :)
I hope your teacher watches this video and drops your grade for it
Well aren't you fun at parties.
Ya care bout grades? Why
Learning is the true objective of studying.
Even if you fail the test, you have the information you picked up.
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This particular episode was extremely helpful to me. Thank you.
Thank you so much for making this video. I was in conflict with myself for similar arguements and this video seemed to clarify a lot of turmoils in my thought. I don't if we subconsciously find the answers we want to find or you somehow make videos knowingly or whatever. Thanks ❤
words can’t describe how beautifully this video hit me :’)
Good shit
This video is awesome. I watched it many times in a row and let me tell you it has been a delight every time. Thank you.
I seriously love your videos. Your initial video On Suicide saved my life and sparked a love of philosophy I never knew I had. Thank you!
Ah, glad to see the Arkham subreddit transcending dimensions and reaching Sisyphus.
been lookin for this comment
“What do you want to do next?”
In the end I just want to be with her again.
RIP my love. You will forever live on in this heart of mine ❤
I’m so sorry 💐🙏🏿
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The previous line adds context to one must imagine sisyphus happy. The struggle, itself, towards the heights is enough to fill a mans heart. This speaks to the human condition to humble oneself and be grateful to even have the opportunity to prove oneself, to be honored with the task of knowing oneself, of knowing god. Im happy to struggle and if youre struggling im more than happy to struggle side by side with you so that youre not alone.
Love that intro, highlighted my thoughts exactly
That’s really cool, but in the morning if my face is a little puffy I'll put on an ice pack while doing stomach crunches. I can do 1000 now.
That's really impressive.
What do you think about the research that suggests crunches and sit-ups might be bad for your spine in the long term?
How long have you been doing this and have you felt any negative side effects in that period?
One of my favorite videos of yours, thank you
A geniuine thank you, from a person, that was struggling with thoughts of eternity and helplessness.
Doing good from the heart is the only thing that will keep the world toghether. I think about it and act like so. There's only few moments where you can make the difference from right or wrong, the difficult part is that it is much easier to do wrong. None the less we humans are good
i lov sisyphus
*Syphilis 🤓👍
I love Pursuit of Wonder, I was surprised that you mentioned it on your channel.
I just discovered your Spotify page and now one can imagine that I am happy