The Philosophy of Depression
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Hi @Sisphus55, I really appreciate your work, and it truly helps people grow and I enjoy seeing and debating the philosophical views/ analysis myself and challenging views and perceptions on the world, eachother and oneself. I am wondering about a video that I really enjoyed that I believe you have hidden, "On Beauty". I was wondering if there was a chance that it could be republished. Some things strike a great deal of importance and meaning to me regardless of their content, that video being one of them. It is of course your works and thus should do with it as you feel, something I am very aware of and a decision you should feel comfortable with no matter the external input. Was just hoping, as a few of the older videos of yours, are still really appreciated.
Hope this finds you well
I think the worst part is when you're extremely aware of all your problems and that it is a mental illness, but you still can't do anything about it and that huge void just keeps growing
I respect myself for who I am. I also don’t call it an illness.
@@ponpo185 This is difficult when you have constant intrusive thoughts of self harm that you don't necessarily want to have. Maybe you deal with this and have come to peace with it? Others haven't found that.
do tiny things for yourself. And I do mean TINY. A sip of water. Pressing play on a song you like. Moving your feet a little in bed. These things help. They don't feel like much, hell sometimes they even feel pathetic, but over time they build up. you'll make it out of bed, you'll start singing along, you'll stop thinking about whatever is harming you as much. And that, my friend, is progress. So start with tiny. Please.
@@yahyeet3694100% this. I've had 2 major depressive episodes in my life. After a major car accident with injuries, and when my mother passed. She passed 4 years ago, and I still have to remind myself to do all the little things for me. Do big things when you can, But the little thing, are for you, and more important daily. Don't forget those. It's not a cure...but it is a current that can help you stay on course.
Is this because you have exhausted all medical and psychological treatments?
The “I imagine you happy” at the end got me tearing up I can’t lie
Same 💀. I saw it coming, but still got me crying my eyeballs out. It was truly comforting.
As a person who is diagnosed for depression, who is unable to convey ones thoughts, and who feel unmotivated all the time, this is too relatable.
As a person diagnosed for depression, I can say that being diagnosed for depression just means you paid someone to hold the paper while filling the same questionnaire anyone can google.
I got depression reading this.
ok
@@poika22 Agreed
got really bad depression, a generalized anxiety disorder and dpdr :( life is constant agony
i hope you can get your old videos back nad that you can keep the channel running,you have no idea how much they help to ease one's mind
What happened? Or link to Sisyphus' post explainer? I noticed this video was a repost shortly into it ...
What happened are they gone? They are really good.
@@SuperMegaWoofer3000they were deleted or taken off the public view due to a DMCA Strike from using music that was copyrighted. Remember three strikes and you channel is deleted. So out of fear he deleted ones that could be in danger of getting him a strike
That hbomberguy video is suddenly playing in the back of my mind 😢
I recognize that my depression is purely my mental health issues. I go from feeling the best to the worst with no warning. Years and years of anguish, suffering in my own mind. I’ve made a career out of explaining my mental health to those that will listen. Have done everything possible to be happy and enjoy myself, even found enlightenment. But regardless will find myself again in the same spiral of dark thoughts. What do you do when you know the answer to your solution, and find out the solution does not exist in the way you’d expect it to. My words constantly swirling around my head, finding myself hoping for something to be there. Knowing that i will never find something. I am happy, for now. I am depressed for now, but neither will last forever. Nor will I, till i take a long blink. (edit typo)
I feel like this too...
I feel alike.
There is always transistion however small, something triggers something, sometimes we get so caught up in our old rhythm or pattern that we neglect the spaces in between, the silence and rest in between. The moments you take a step back instead of doing, feeling and thinking what you have been doing, the things that have been carving the shape of who you feel like you are. Spirals are just that, spirals even if they are infinite or finite staircases, we can learn to be aware of where we walk and how we feel. and we have the mind to ask ourselves, is this what I want? But that's like asking an apple if it wants to be an apple, you have been shaping yourself for the years you have been alive and "god" knows what you have been given from the generations of people and time that you come from. How do you expect to shape a tree into a closet in a matter of 5 minutes, it takes times steps, trial and error and exploration, daring with all the feelings you got in your pocket. And that means knowing when you overstepped what you can do for that moment, Check in with yourself. your body, it is a circus of signals, it's something to learn to listen to, we expect to be sooo free in the mind to think up anything, but neglect our bodies in that same treatment, our bodies are vessels or connected to that open world mind that you posses. If we get stuck in our head in spirals, imagine what that mind is signaling to the body. Stiff legs, neglected muscle groups from sitting around all day. pain in the neck from all stress build up.
If we look at what we are, flesh, water and oxygen, you look at a car and you count the fuel to be a part of it. You're brain, your body, lives off of breathing.
It has helped me to start there, to put that as a top priority. Also as a way to help me go to sleep.
My breath changes when I am overwhelmed by anxiousness, fear, shame, anger.
What is the optimal state of breathing for my brain to handle all the tasks that I set for myself.
The better you breath you more you are able to tackle, that means more negativity sometimes and that can be overwhelming.
Take a step back, ask yourself the kind questions, how can I lean on myself in this moment, hope for it, cling on to it. imagine your child self clinging on to you, for me that feels cringy and shame tugs at me, but this is a child living it's first live, how would you handle this child frightened shitless. You take YOUR time. and for someone with a lot of self hate, it's hard to give myself that time because there are times that I feel like I don't deserve that time, to rest or whatever.
But that's the thing, there is no requirement to rest, if you are tired, guess what, you are tired. You can deny it all you want and come up with all the theories,
Or you bridge the gap to your body and listen to what it is telling you, close your eyes. Be quiet to find your rhythm between the noise, and remember that slowing things down is okay, you can slow things down for 5 seconds and then speed it up again, stop after 2 or 20 minutes and slow it down again. steps, intention, love.
I tend to still identify a whole lot easier with the dark thoughts (suicidal thoughts). but like I said identify, I put the label "Hey that's me" on those thoughts, meaning I contain the power to change that label or even change the operating system, but that's all stuff that I'm trying to figure out as I choose to continue for now.
I hope this might help someone. Thank you for taking your time to write and inspire me to do the same. Thank you.
@NotOmni Solutions never come from outside unfortunately, only inspiration does. My solutions lie in my heart and if I come to them, i know, that only then my outer problems will shine in a new light and thus they eventually will be able to be dealt with. If I don’t know how to deal, nothing will change.
Also, isn’t 'answer to solutions' an oxymoron?
What is the solution that does not exist, in the way you expect it to? - are you able to explain a little more, as to what this is, or what you are referring to..
I remember being fifteen, laying in my bed late at night and staring up at my ceiling. I looked at the window and the light of my neighbor's own window was faintly visible through the blinds. Despair. A deep-rooted static inside of my chest and a heaviness on the outside making it hard to breathe. I remember knowing that this horrible feeling was not new. I knew that I had felt this way for many years. But why I remember that specific night is because I spoke out loud, aiming for a conversation with God.
"This isn't normal, is it? I feel horrible and it isn't normal."
The feeling of heavy numbness, the static in my chest, the nothingness that is me and what I feel, the terrible inferiority that hasn't left me for a second since I was very young.
I've done many things to myself and my body. I've given up on getting better. I have never told anyone but people have found out. People notice how little you eat, people notice the scars on your body, people make light jokes on it. I think they want to start a conversation about it when they do. I see their uncomfortable eyes, their careful laughter.
Even the gross old man who hits on me at my work notices it. "it's your eyes, they don't look happy. Are you happy?" I told him no, I have not been happy since I was extremely young. Just yesterday he told me, "I look at you and wonder 'is that little girl happy?'" I ignored him but his words stayed with me. They lingered. An old man that has made comments about my appearance for two years now has no value to me and I will never think nicely of him. . . but even a creepy old man can see my chronic despair? Now I wonder how deeply my friends see through me. Now I wonder why my parents have never said anything. Perhaps the same reason I have never told them anything.
I am a barista, I have met a plethora of people and admired the existence of just as many. Some people will never leave my mind. Like the handsome, scholarly-looking, tall and slim gentleman with round glasses who sat down all alone to read The History of the English Middle Class with a leather satchel. He thanked me deeply for the cappuccino I gave him and praised me for its quality before leaving. I have never been so attracted to a stranger ever since.
Or the two elderly ladies that had decaf coffee and sat down together to talk about deep things. I was wiping tables when I overheard their conversation. One had not spoken to her family in perhaps a year. She missed her brother who was in the hospital and did not know how to reach out to him because his children were ignoring her calls and texts, making it impossible for her to get into contact with him. The family that still loved her was busy and up north. She left the north to come down here for a better life but had been alone the entire time. She spoke sweetly about the big house and big yard she had before, which she had traded out for something I can only imagine to be empty and dull. My heart ached for her. I could feel her loneliness.
And, of course, all of the nervous teenagers with dyed hair and heavy makeup and dark clothes that have tripped over their words while ordering before digging through their pockets for change. Not to forget the tired couples who eat in silence, the angry husbands and wives who argue bitterly with one another and speak with sharp tongues only to treat me with more kindness than they did their spouses their entire visit. And sometimes, with a quiet son or daughter that never looks me in the eye.
I'd like to mention the parents that come full of love for their small children. The love they hold and the kindness they bring about them. Fathers that look at their baby daughters with pure love and are unable to stifle a huge grin while scrunching their noses. The mothers that hold their babies close and speak to them with nothing but softness and dulcet tones. The elderly couples that are still as in love as before and it shows through the way they look at each other while talking.
I've hated my job before. The weird old men, both customers and co workers that have came and went. I have never felt pretty when the "compliments" come from men my fathers age or older. I've lashed out at a handful for calling me cute or beautiful or told me to smile more because it makes me look pretty. I've crumbled under the pressure of sour customers and felt dizzy after a stressful shift.
But at the end of the day, coffee is the most popular drug on earth. All sorts of people come into the cafe. And some of those people have given me exponential hope for my young life. They act however they want because most people do not realize that the young barista looking back at you intently waiting for your order is a real, deep-feeling human being that notices how you are dressed, the tone of voice, your tired eyes, whether or not you say "please" and how you say it and the way you treat the people you are with, if any at all. When she wipes tables she can hear you and see you. She remembers if you come again and depending on how you were last time, she'll make sure to make your coffee very nicely and hope to see you well again. I love my job because it allows me to watch so many people. And human beings, simply by existing, can unscramble the permanent static I feel.
I don't know how this turned into a rant about my job but I have lived in a void of exhaustion and melancholy since I was extremely young. I mean around ten years old because I refuse to believe I've been this way since I was seven, even though I think it stems from my homelife at the time of my early years. But even so, the thing that cures me most is human beings. To notice and watch and feel my heart warmed or broken by others that barely acknowledge my existence. Of course, this isn't really a cure. But it keeps me alive.
I won't pretend to be able to write as well as you did here (Grammarly helps a lot tho), but have you considered writing in general?
I found the whole "essay", if we can call it that, very intriguing. I'm usually not one to read comments longer than a few sentences, but the way you described both the environment as well as your own feelings and thoughts kept me interested all the way through. The conclusion of others as a cure or a solution resonated with me and was articulated very well. In some ways it describes why I keep going: We're meaningless by the very nature of existing, but sometimes others give me the feeling of worth and of subjective meaning (people I interact with or by consuming art made by strangers), I want to give back that feeling meaning to others around me; that is my purpose.
I don't know if you'll read this but thank you for sharing your story, got me thinking a lot. Hope you'll have a good day at work tomorrow(or today, depending on the timezone) :)
@@cubingfredriksen1563 I second this, wonderful writing
I'm not really a reader but this story got me captivated. As the other comments have said, you are absolutely amazing at this.
please never stop writing
@@cubingfredriksen1563 to you and to the other wonderful souls that have written their sweet supports: Thank you, from the deepest most personal depths of my heart. Writing is my world-- it has been since I was very little. Although this was an unrefined dump of my thoughts, I am unspeakably glad that others enjoyed it. It isn't often I share my writing and even if this was written on a whim, I'm just ecstatic that others think it's nicely written!
You see, I want to be a writer. Not a writer, technically I already am one, but a GREAT writer. I wish to move people with my words and make them crave my opinions the way I am so fond of Dostoevsky!
One day I will. I am still young, sixteen, and I can't wait to grow older because it means bettering in my writing and having opinions worth listening to. I could go on and on and on about writing but I won't. Just know that you and everyone else who has replied made me very happy.
Hey man, please never stop your work on youtube. you've gotten me through some dark times with your videos. being able to reference the actual material has made me aware of the fact that i love different philopshies and it's made my life so much better. Much love, friend
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I feel like no matter how many people I talk to with depression or even mental health profeesionals, no one will ever understand what I am going through or feeling. It’s feels so isolating and hopeless.
yeah… and i think that’s the whole point maybe. like everything’s pointless and hopeless so that’s exactly why we should create meaning and hope for ourselves? idrk, i feel the same way as you though
No one will ever know exactly how anyone else feels. We approximate based on our own past experiences, and those experiences, while potentially similar, are still unique to the individual. No matter how effectively anyone communicates, at the end of the day, depressed or not, we are all alone in our heads. That's good though, if you're not alone in your head that's schizophrenia.
I hope this is encouraging and not existential.
@@lgngrbr588 We all come in and leave this world alone, in between we are presented with scenes that might suggest otherwise. But in the end no matter how loved or cherished, we are still alone. It may be one of the few things we can truly relate in, nobody is exempt from the fundamental solitude of existence. If one feels otherwise they've done a better job distracting themselves from this fact, whether one should is when opinion enters the conversation.
"However disabused one may be, it is impossible to live without any hope at all. We always keep one, unwittingly, and this unconscious hope makes up for all the explicit others we have rejected, exhausted."
- Emil Cioran
Do you think that you can live with a reason other than hope? - hope can seem too positive sometimes..
@@LibertasOrationisDon't make the mistake of categorizing hope into something positive. Hope per se is a natural motive for every human being. It is what allows us to cope with the absurdity and futility of existence. It does not have to be correlated with optimism. Getting up every day, making the unconscious decision to continue with your life, breathing, doing your daily chores, all of that, in essence, is hoping. Enjoying meaninglessness, in the midst of turbulence, relieves the pain of depression. That is to hope, not for a solution, but rather that the mystery of life motivates us to accept the fragility of our time on earth. Hope is the act of continue with one's life.
I don't have much in the way of concrete goals, and it's hard to feel truly satisfied with things that once made me happy and occupied most of my day. But I think somewhere deep down there is hope. I hope to start a family one day, it's important to me, I want my parents to have grandkids they can enjoy the company of as they age, and no matter how unrealistic it might seem or how far away I am from fulfilling that hope, I won't give up on my life just yet. All for that vague hope of not dying alone.
@@LibertasOrationis "hope" in this case is more like "lack of certainty in despair"
@@krypbo Life is a fundamentally hopeless endeavor, to act otherwise is paradoxical and will inevitably lead to suffering.
I am constantly aware that my depression is entirely confined to my own perception. That wouldn’t be such an issue if my perception didn’t dictate my entire experience of reality as I know it. It just sucks, nothing more, nothing less.
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Do you believe that depression is entirely in the mind, or is there a physical component to it?
Great job saying absolutely nothing.
Exactly. I'm looking up self hypnosis videos to play constantly on loop to see if I can brainwash myself into being happy or at least content with life. I'll let you know if it works
@@OriginalContent89any results?
im a 19 year old guy. i’ve had depression for as long as i can remember. maybe even during 5th or 6th grade. depression is a very difficult subject since i’ve personally had days or weeks where i felt fine or felt worse or even felt cleansed. now that im older, it’s like it never fluctuates anymore, it’s in a constant state of feeling down or feeling low or even just wanting to harm myself. yesterday was one of the first times ive actually harmed myself. i felt so horrible afterward because i didn’t know why i did it or why i felt the need to. i’m hoping to speak to a therapist very soon and get the help i need. if you’ve read this far i wanna say thank you for listening to my ramble. have a blessed day 🫶🏽
i’m sorry you’re suffering from this. i hope you can get the therapy you need. this illness sucks and i wouldn’t wish it on anyone
I hope you can get help for what you are going through.
You deserve better, nobody deserves depression.
Stay strong and have hope.
I recently hurt myself too and have been going to a therapist for a little while. Only real hope I have for life is to one day meet my girlfriend, we both have a lot of stuff wrong with us and the people around us but she's the support that I trust the most and I hope every day we can have a life together when I can move
@@Salvage5681 how old are you? it seems like the both of you are dealing with a lot and honestly, i can relate to it on some degree. i have regrets which i wouldn’t want you to have either
@@yqhlr We're both 15
Depression has been such a mysterious condition for such a long time, and it's only in the last 20 or so years we've finally begun figuring some major aspects of it out from a scientific standpoint. It's also the single most misunderstood condition among regular people (perhaps alongside migraine). The most important misconception people have is that depression makes one sad, when in fact it most often does the opposite. It removes sadness as much as it removes happiness. It flattens out the regular emotional curvature entirely, causing a melancholic middleground of nothingness. That's why most patients tend to have an "Aha moment" when I ask them if their depression isn't comfortable at points, especially during the first few days or weeks of a relapse. It's as if patients don't want to admit that it is because they've been told they shouldn't feel like that, but the void of emotions can be a real good break from an overwhelming life, at least for a short time. I know it is for me.
Another aspect of depression that is rarely mentioned is how much it affects one's memory. Few patients remember much from their bouts, even when they last for several years. Time just passed, they say, and while they remember certain events having happened, they remember little from them. I was depressed for about 5-6 years, and that part of my life is a complete void.
Finally I want to add that the healthy life really works. Eat well, train well, sleep well and stimulate your mind well.
i feel like SO FEW people talk about the cognitive decline and memory aspect of it, i cannot remember FUCKING ANYTHING until days later, if i even remind myself at all. i forget how long ago things happened or what even happened, like when meeting up with friends. and oh my god, depression has made me into a gargantuan moron, my mind has turned into a 90s computer trying to load up a webpage anytime i have a single complex thought lol. i quite literally feel “slow” when i know for a fact i didn’t feel this way a few years ago when i was actually a dumb young kid
the memory aspect is very interesting. my therapist explained it to me that we remember through our emotions, and depressions numbs everything so everything feels the same and thus we can't really remember much that happened.
@@_malo_mart I can relate to this so much, especially when it comes to memory.
@@player111q7 i really wish depression was researched more/ more (openly) talked about. i feel like people with depression are so often misunderstood and made out to be a lazy when the reality is a lot more complicated :(
@@Orlando-qj7bhThanks for sharing, this is something i’ve thought about for a while and i thought it might have just been me. Super cool and interesting thanks! 👍
20 years of untreated, chronic depression here. This was the best video on depression I've seen in youtube. Thank you for your efforts.
I attract to absurdity because of the irony. I called, "The Tsunami Effect of Paradise", where you can be sitting on a beautiful beach somewhere and your old life leaves because of something nature does. I wonder if there's an ironic heaven to a 30-foot wave.
I have been living in delusions for the past 3 years this has pushed me into a deep depression I’ve always been depressed to an extent but even with medication it feels almost unbearable and investing all my energy into pretending to be ok just drains me even more , thank u for the video :)
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How would you explain the way a delusion feels?
@@LibertasOrationis like reality but it’s not
@@Ufoolin Is it normally visual, where you might see something that is not there? - like a fleeting glance out of the corner of your eye, or like seeing bugs on a wall, or seeing a person you can talk to right in front of you.. kind of like that..
Or auditory where you might hear music, or indistinguishable voices, or actually someone speaking clearly to you..
What about smell or taste?
is it delusion. or the spirits trying to reach out to help?
As someone who is suicidal because of existential depression, this video brought me to tears. I'm not sure it helped, but maybe... "I imagine you happy." Wow. Great video.
Update (3 months after posting the original comment): I think it has actually gotten better. I've begun seeing a light at the end of the tunnel, so to speak. It's a dim one, but it's something. This is exciting as I haven't felt this in at least 3 years. :)
I hope you feel better eventually.
@@Gareth167 Thank you.
Please don’t die. Hope your well
Hope you’re doing good my friend ❤
I just bawled to this. You managed to put into words what I couldn't for a long time, aswell as that contrivance i think we all possess that pushes us onward. Beautiful video, I never write this, and say it with all my heart, that your work and introduction to Camus saved my life. Thank you.
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It's 6:24 in the morning. I'm about to go to the gym. I failed to do basic tasks despite plenty time 5 consecutive days. Washing machine still broken, dishes pile up. But i am going to the gym. Im eating the protein. I'm strong. It's at least something.
One step at a time man. Just keep going.
Doing 0.00001 percent of the things you know you should do will make you grow unlimited times more than doing 0%
No matter how small the growth it is worth a lot
And it is ok to have days where you do 0% just try to remember that
I was so fatigued and depressed all of the time, the medication (SSRI) only made the lack of motivation and the ability to do undesirable tasks worse so I knew it had a cause which the medication didn't address. I took a long look at my life and realized that some of the things didn't quite line up with one off depression (MDD). After much self reflection and looking up alternative conditions which can cause depression or depression like symptoms, I came to the conclusion that the root cause was actually unaddressed ADHD of the inattentive variety and that the "depression" was actually a manifestation of intense burnout as a result of attempting to take on life without having any useful skills to cope with it or any medication to help with the brunt of the stress caused by it.
I believe that a large amount of those with "treatment resistant depression" could have another issue entirely such as ADHD, PTSD, ASD, vitamin deficiencies, undiagnosed sleep issues or any number of other things that cause intense stress on the mind or body. The fact that so many people get stopped at "you just got really severe depression" is a unacceptable. If the traditional treatment doesn't work there is almost always another issue.
Marcel's view on how depression is treated in modernity perfectly encapsulates the issues I have with modern psychology. Depression isn't a problem we need to solve, but rather a condition we must overcome.
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I didn’t think I’d have my thoughts portrayed through these videos…
Thank you for your videos, they provided a great source of solace in my darkest times. I’ve struggled with depression since I was 12 and this video accurately depicts what it’s like to live a life full of dread, emptiness and sadness. Thank you for giving words to our depression and validating our experience.
It's scary how on time most of your videos are
Nah u just always depressed, b
@@dunsbroccoli2588 you didn't have to expose me like that
yea
not its not, he talks about things people presumably like you experience chronically/daily, it could be 10 days from now or 10 years from now and his post would be "on time" for you
It’s scarier how we all feel that way, maybe. Idk. Maybe not.
As someone who has delt with an exsessivly long deppressive episode for almost a year now. this accuartly depects every aspect of what it's like with a life full of dread and sadness. thank you for putting this out there and saying exacly what people who deal with deppression into words they cant.
My parents do not get this. "When you were a kid, it only lasted a month." Several more episodes have brought them into my world. My depressive realism has become prophecy amongst my peers... much to my chagrin. I've become a tool to see the future. Depression has become a commodity, too.
My tongue can say hope. I can define hope. I have an ineffable hope inside me despite everything. I think it's the other's in my life
We are here together in this moment. The thumbs and ideas are humans facing out to each other.
We're here together. We're worth each other. 👊 fist bump for my homies
that must've been terrible. I'm not sure if I'm morbidly surprised or devastated that I'm still here but for me it's been 7 years. it has rarely been pleasant but, somehow I kept going and I hope you can, too.
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Would you say you were not depressed before this episode? - or do you think it was always there, constantly under the surface all the time..
This is, once again, a smashingly great video, narrating with such clarity what I feel I’ve discovered but never knew how to say. One thing I’m unsure of, though, is the idea that depressed people see a truer reality than others. I understand how we can see “more” than other people can, since we are so ungenerously plunged into despair far deeper than shallow everyday life. However, as someone who’s been diagnosed with depression, my experience has been depression actually clouding my reality and making it harder to see. Basically, by attacking my ego (feeling self-hatred, self-pity, etc) I saw the world and myself in a warped way, whereas where I was feeling more neutral I felt as if I could percieve clearly.
I agree. Also because memory gets really clouded/bad
Hey man, I just want to let you know that I appreciate you. In my lowest of times, I've listened to a ton of your videos in hopes for some insight, or at least the feeling of mild relief of knowing that I'm not alone in this. I've somewhat gotten both from your videos and reading through the comments (imagine seeing a non-cancerous comment section for a change). I'm doing better now after getting some "answers" to my worries, and I find myself going back to your vids just to learn or listen. Thank you for making these videos!
Finding out at age 42 that I'm autistic solved so many mysteries regarding my lifelong depression. I felt hope for the very first time.
Thank you so much for your efforts. I return here often because of your sincere attempts to understand
your place in this utterly absurd existence or whatever we chose call it. For me, feeling the dread means I’m on bleeding edge of my reality, so close to being overwhelmed but so very present too. I tell myself daily that “nobody is coming to save me” and then consume some quality espresso and carry on. We should all hold our heads high here for leading the “ examined life.”
one of my favourite videos of yours. it feels kind of like a culmination of a lot of your thought and work in one concise and, in a sense, meaningful video.
this is also one of the rare things I've come across in life so far that I feel kind of "get it". or maybe a better way to put that is that I feel like this does a very good job of communicating and explaining a lot of the things I've thought about and struggled with, often feeling misunderstood and isolated. of course this is stuff one could think and talk about for days, if not one's entire life.
for example I've always experienced a lot of friction between this "depressive realism" and the absurdity of our society and daily life in it. I feel like our societies are built on illusions like the idea that things matter or have meaning or that free will exists or that objective morality exists, yet as a collective we generally kind of take these things for granted as fundamental truths (even if individually people may think differently).
and I could keep going for a while, but it feels kind of pointless for me to continue.
thanks a lot Sisyphus
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i have had terrible depression, on and off, since i was about 15-16. my older half-brother died from a heroin overdose, i should have died multiple times while i was a proper drug addict, and my little brother commited suicide. depression is no joke and genuinely can destroy you internally, even if your general upbringing and life wasnt the worst by any stretch and you come from a relatively well off family. it can just kill all of your motivation, your goals dissapear, there are points of time where i literally consider just commiting some crime so i can go sit in a jail cell and rot for the rest of my life but then i think and realise that then id be stuck with just my thoughts and id end up wanting to zero myself anyway. something i would never be able to do after my little brother and seeing the effect it had on my family. i couldnt put them through something like that again it was too painful.
anyway i shared this video with my sister, people who havent been through it understand but those who havent find it very hard to understand how its different from just sadness or grieving. this video represents my thoughts and feelings quite well. some of the stuff that really sucks about it is how i know i have a problem, i am severely depressed, im doing the things that are recommended by doctors etc for myself to do but it hasnt been improving yet, i know it will eventually, but before then i still blame myself for these issues. i still think how big a burden i am on everyone, how i can see how my family love me but i dont feel like i deserve it, that i am a complete and utter failure and will never move on from where i am now. even though i can look at some of that and say it is objectively false, my brain will still tell me otherwise.
Hypothetically at what point would you say; I have no more faith in the medical profession, and it doesn't matter what consequences, I will do whatever it takes to resolve my problems - no matter how fringe the treatment is, or how little you believe it will ever work.. like a diet, supplements or herbs, etc..
I mean we put out trust in the medical field, but they have no answers; and some of the treatments can be downright dangerous anyway.. like ECT or Deep brain stimulation..
The videos you make, the way you express these philosophies, they create a mindset or view of the world that allows oneself to move beyond an individual viewpoint of a philosopher or belief. That is the reason that I find your videos to be the most engaging beyond others on this platform. Thank you for making each of your videos.
Oh thankyou so much for reuploading, the original has helped me immensely with my depression
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 🌅 Introduction to Depression
- Overview of experiencing depression and its initial impact on daily life.
- Describing the rift between one's former and present self.
- The challenge of communicating feelings and the unnoticed symptoms of depression.
02:03 🧠 Understanding Depression: Causes and Characteristics
- Distinction between depression as a mood and a full-fledged disorder.
- Exploration of the complex causes, including genetic factors and brain structure.
- Highlighting the persistent nature of depressive symptoms over an extended period.
03:23 🧬 Genetics, Evolution, and Depression
- Insight into the genetic factors contributing to sustained despair.
- Connection between certain genes associated with depression and inflammatory properties.
- Evolutionary perspective suggesting depression may have survival benefits.
04:36 💔 Uncovering the Unidentified Stressors
- Difficulty in identifying specific causes of depression.
- Mention of universal issues, such as the lack of meaning or projecting despair onto broader conflicts.
- Therapist's role in helping patients confront uncomfortable points of contention.
06:14 🤔 Philosophizing Over Depression: Is It Necessary?
- Addressing the question of the value of philosophical contemplation of depression.
- Acknowledging the potential merging of depression with avenues of genius.
- Exploring the concept of "depressive realism" and its impact on perceptions.
07:09 🌌 Existential Dilemmas and Psychotherapy
- Introduction to classic existential dilemmas: death, freedom, understanding, and meaninglessness.
- Overview of existential psychotherapy as a response to the irresolvable observations.
- Emphasis on living a good life amidst existential challenges.
09:39 🔄 Absurdism and the Role of Hope
- Explanation of Absurdism and the disharmony between human striving and the universe.
- Camus's perspective on hope as a hindrance to living a good life.
- Embracing the Absurd as a means to find meaning in the present.
13:59 🤞 Marcel's Strange Hope and Mysteries of Existence
- Marcel's distinction between problem and mystery in the quest for significance.
- Advocacy for a strange hope directed towards the possibilities inherent in the present.
- Emphasis on patience and acceptance of the mysterious nature of being.
15:04 🤷 Living Beyond Hope: The Absurd and Life's Absurdities
- Acknowledgment of the insolubility of life's most important problems.
- Recognizing the ability to outgrow problems rather than solving them.
- Encouragement to live, experience, and find joy despite existential uncertainties.
16:39 🚫 Caution against Overintellectualizing Depression
- Caution against overintellectualizing and sacrificing the experience of life.
- Encouragement to seek professional help and available resources for depression.
- Acknowledging the limitations of philosophy in providing a medicinal solution.
Ah yes, how human.
* Camus , not Kamu
Thanks so much! ❤
Thanks dawg, great video as always ! I wish I could’ve been able to send it to my dad before it was too late… he woulda thought it was interesting. The vid was helpful in that it really gave me a glimpse into what he was feeling, I often wonder if he used to battle with his mind over these very things. Stay strong everyone and get out the house as much as you can, kinda like that guy who played games with his friends in the video. Better times are ahead !
Love you all❤
As always you never disappoint, I play your videos just because your tone of voice puts me at peace but the video content altogether always impacts me
Thank you for reuploading this video. It’s one of the best on depression I’ve ever seen.
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This is one of the few channels that gets me, without the need of knowing who I am. Such a boring, monotonous, simplistic way of art that holds zero direction of not knowing where it'll end up. Which is why I have been checking up on this channel for the last 5 plus years. Keep it up, dude. Keep it up.
Does anyone else get that feeling of their emotion senses being turned down by 93%? As in, you only feel such emotions as estacy or, more prominently, anger or irritability, but otherwise feel almost nothing else.
Yes, I believe it is called Anhedonia.. do you think that happened over time, or just all of a sudden?
Alexithymia my man it sucks
Back when I was depressed, yes. I realised I was not able to feel sadness. Despair, pain, anger, overall repulsion towards anything good yes, but not sadness. Then certain thing made me very sad about certain events in my past to the point of crying and it made me feel much better. If you are sad that means you value something, if you are depressed you value nothing. So being sad is a much better state than depression, it's a healthy reaction to negative events.
Later I read Mouring and Melancholia by Sigmund Freud and I think he described precisely that phenomenon. It would mean that depression is some form of negativity turned inward as opposed to finding a proper natural outlet.
@@LibertasOrationis I think it began happening within the last 2½ years or so. Some spells of feeling numb, or what I am convinced of now, spells of depression, and then they'd go away. I've looked this up, and I think it's something deeper than a simple burnout. So I don't know if anhedonia is the condition I'm facing.
@@ideallyjekyl5200 Yeah, I think it does... I'm not 100% certain about what diagnosis I face at the moment. But nonetheless, it's not fun. I really cannot find emotional sense in much of anything right now.
I have a feeling this diagnosis is more likely what I have, because of one condition I know I have and another I suspect I have.
You allow us a place to reevaluate ourselves. Please continue making these videos. Hope to read Camus's Myth of Sisyphus soon.
Have been living with depression for most my life. A few months ago, after a brief period of mania, it came back so bad i started experiencing psychotic symptoms. They've not gone away. But now i'm no longer scared of livning, i'm just scared of the voices coming back.
Been diagnosed with bipolar since I was a teen. Nearly ten years deep into my diagnosis and I couldn’t have summarized the sensation as well as you did in the first minute.
I've gotten through the worst of my depression and existentialism somehow without ever watching this video but it hits all things that I went through (especially the existentialism) and it gives me a lot of comfort to know there are others out there that can understand exactly what it feels like. wonderful job on the video mate.
the worst is that because i'm able to explain and rationalize my emotions, regular people and even professionals assume i am okay, but when voicing how i still cant cope with said emotions, they go back to "identifying the emotion" type exercises.
The biggest mistake in mental health; is the inability to differentiate between what's in the mind, vs what is actually a physical disfunction..
exactly.
THIS HAPPENS TO MORE PEOPLE???? OMG OMG
This is my situation 99% of the time. The only thing doctors know how to do is to "help you know what is happening and why", but when you already know that, when you already unwraped it and knnow every inch of the problem they just cant do anything anymore. Even if it still hurts as much as it did at the start they cant really help you with all this feeling better thing. Understanding doesnt mean I feel better about it or that I can just fix it.
another great video syphilis!
This was what I needed.
I have to learn to take care of myself to be able to see feel the better, strongest things in life.
Thank you.
I love watching these before bed, they help me not freak out as much and give a sense of calm that isn’t numbness. your videos and comment sections feel so safe, thank you
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Wonderful to see this beautiful video back up, I didn't realize how much I loved the music on the old version but still happy to see it again
The goat is back with another upload - stay blessed everyone
this made my cry, especially the last couple of minutes. thank you.
Would re-watch this over and over again
For me a man who is medicated for his depression but just enough to alleviate the problems that it causes it. It is like an old friend that is there to sit you down to tell you how the world is constantly cleaning the windows that you see out of while at the same time showing me the dirt and grime of the world showing me how overall it can be beautiful if only I take the risk of looking blindly while at the same time warning me against such actions
your videos give me the motivation to actually do my homework. Your videos are also very inspirational and mentally relaxing by far one of my favorite youtubers
This is the only video on depression I've seen that will probably help me. Giving up hope isn't going to make someone less depressed since depression is a state of hopelessness.
The happy people I know do seem to have some general hope for life that keeps them going.
Thank you. I'm not depressed or what, I love watching your videos and your videos are literally making me a better version of myself. Thank you thank you thank you
such a beautiful video... I really needed to hear this after the past few months... it combined so many things together, it's almost as if you had strung together parts of my memories and learnings from philosophy into a single art piece... I really like the ending phrase as well, "I imagine you happy."
This is by far the most acccurate, precise and exact description of a depressed mind
Couldn't be any better than this
I hope you're doing well, and not working too hard. Thank you for helping me
I want to thank you for potentially saving my life. It is tough to get going everyday unless there is an understanding with self, that all is well as it is. It is tough to go on without intellectualizing the struggle of existence. At a point in time, I was tired of studying philosophy as a cure for my depression...for I thought the universe had rolled a wicked dice and here I am with clinical depression and ADD. But your videos have eased my pain. I want you to know that while you might not convince someone to live, you are raising the right questions, referring to human experiences that are not taught in school and that might just get someone to breathe. That whatever this is, is a lot more than labels and prescriptions and report cards and failed projects and lost relationships, even if it isn't. The hope that there still might be something to salvage is a crutch that bores a hole under my shoulder with every passing day, but hey, I am sure the end is worth the pain. That I persevered and didn't let go. You haven't convinced me to find happiness in the pain but you have helped me breathe in this smoggy exisistence.
How are you doing now?
The closing statement brought me to tears
Thank you for this essay. Truly, thank you. In a way you saved me this day.
Thank you
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I've beenauffing with diagnosed depression for about 4-5 years and through the years I've developed an absurdist and existentialist attitude. And too see that this is a normal thing comforts me so I thank you for that
It amazes me how your video drops as I'm going through that specific thing like I searched your video title just a few weeks ago and didn't find much and now this pops up that's crazy
Reminds me of your old video. I needed this, I think it appeared just in time
Thank you for updating the section on the cause of depression
Hope everyone here is okay. Please be safe and know that people care about you, even if it may not feel like it at times. If you are feeling troubled, maybe professional help is the answer, or talking to a trusted friend about what you are going through. Wish you all the best.
There are some of us who cannot be helped.
Well this was strangely well timed to my current life. Thank you
Not to be dramatic but your original video of this genuinely changed my life. Thank you for your videos, your intellect, and for sharing it with us. I hope you can put the old video back up some day. I go back to it so regularly.
My man Sisyphus with another banger.
this video was life changing, thank you.
Thank you, i'm having a lot of troubles in muy life and you talk in a way that makes ir much easier.
There's some days that o font want to sleep and that i feel that i am a burden to my friends and family.
Thank you so much for your services, i know i Will ger better but that it will not be instant and that Is sometimes too much to handle.
This was beautiful, very well said
When ever I visit this particular comment section I feel a bit less useless. You have such an soothing voice. Thank you Sisyphus.
There was a six-ish month period where I was certain I would be gone within the next couple years. While I know my depression wasn't as severe as it could've been, and I was quite lucky to be able to recover somewhat, I can say, that as someone who's made it out of the other end of the tunnel, Depression changed who I am on a fundamental level.
There are still many days where I'm not actually sure I'm actually better, I consistently sleep in just to avoid having to struggle through another day and go through long hours of nothing. I still cry a lot, except now I can barely identify the reason.
Sometimes, while I don't feel really feel sad like I used to, I still feel so tired under the simple weight of knowing.
My empathy is much more acute of other's suffering. I am very aware of my friend's continued depression and how I can do little to help them.
I constantly have a voice in the back of my head that still wants to drag down the good I've managed to find.
Oftentimes, it feels like my brain is permanently broken, and all I can do is learn to be okay with that.
I kind of miss the feeling of irresponsibility that came with thinking I'm gonna die.
Thing's are genuinely better. I'm enjoying some of my hobbies again, and much more consistently. I have more friends and better relationships. My self esteem is leagues better then it was before
I'm doing much better, and even if part of me will never quite heal over, sometimes, occasionally, I'm okay with that
Wanted to share that I’m going through the same thing,
Long story short I’ve had such rapid changes in life that I struggle to recognize my self even 3 years ago.
It’s scary that i have folks tell me “oh you used to be like x and y! Now you’re not”
And I can’t explain it to them, ofcourse I’m more sad, my entire basis of existence was shattered and I’ve had to deal with this alone ontop of outside problems that have been more intense than I have ever experienced.
With all of that being said, I don’t think I’d have it any other way? I’m more peaceful. I get anxiety at times, sure, I get agitated, but when the cards are down, I’m at peace.
I don’t smile as much, I don’t joke as much, nor do I even enjoy anything as much, but I still care for people, I still make others feel safe and secure and that’s not even my goal. My goal every day it is to get through it, if I’m in bed at what ever time, and I’m still in one piece, I’ve won.
I used to want money, power, respect, admiration, now I just want to be left alone.
I have suffered with horrible anxiety and depression since I can remember. Diagnosed as such for almost a decade now, along with ptsd and other such mental illnesses. I never really saw a life for myself. I always thought I would die around the age of 16, and I almost did. It got to a point where I had to beg to be hospitalized because I was so scared. I was going to die at the hands of myself, when I didn’t actually want to. I was just scared of living, scared of the reality that I had been experiencing and in a lot of pain without being able to truly understand why. Being hospitalized led to getting a therapist and that led to 3 years of almost nothing but working on myself, pulling myself out of the hole I created in survival mode and being put in a position of figuring out what I want this life to mean to me. What living is and who I am. Big questions, right? Big things I don’t think we ever really fully understand. We are ever changing and growing and I am not the same person today as I was yesterday. There is a lot of uncertainty in almost every aspect of this world, it’s overwhelming and understandably so. Sometimes it is better to be able to take a break from those big questions, and instead focus on what there is in the present. when you are given a chance to see things from an alternate perspective, it can curate new hope for the little things, and it truly saved me. I didn’t think I was going to make it out of the darkness. I’m 20 now and I’m going to college after a gap year and I’m slowly finding myself and healing and everything is different!!! There are still hard days but there is so much beauty to be found within all of the unknown that we fear and loathe for lack of understanding. The absurdity of things is magical sometimes, if you let it be. There is truth in the idea that the meaning of living and being human is to love and be loved. Simple. To appreciate what is around us and who we are, even if we don’t know what it is but a feeling or an energy. To be kind and to find community. We are Created from the stars the same way the trees and the grass and the water are. Everything is connected!!
Allow curiosity to overcome the fear. What is there to do next? Who am I going to be later, who do I want to be now?
I didn’t think I was ever going to feel true unbridled happiness again. I now can say I have and I do!! Of course I’ve had a lot of help through medication and extensive therapy but All of this is jumbled together and rambly just to say that there is always a way to find peace and balance within yourself, even if you can’t see it right now. Trust me. Allow the emotions to be felt, but also allow yourself to let them go after they’re acknowledged. There can be hope along with the pain, it is never truly black and white.
I hope anyone who is struggling will someday be able to feel the sunshine and take a breath without feeling such a heavy weight. I believe it is possible. I am proof it is possible!! You are always on a journey. Ride the wave. It doesn’t feel like this forever ❤️🩹❤️🩹 you are loved always and I wish nothing more but for you to find that love within yourself as well 💓💕🌟
I hope that made sense, lol. Sorry if it got a bit confusing I just started yapping
Man you came at just the right time and I believe you. ❤
Thanks man, i needed this.
This was absolutely wonderful. 👏
As a person with medication-resistant depression, I see this as an absolute win.
Medication resistant depression.. medication is shit yeah a fucking pill will resolve your shitty life. Not to be an asshole but im sick of psychiatry
Thanks for posting on my birthday lol🎉
I did shrooms for it and the trip was very intense and weird, it gave me pretty deep existential dread and feelings of failure, I got myself back up again once the heavy despair trip lifted- even though it laid down hard on me I knew it was just my brain reacting very interestingly with the mushrooms, I was thinking it was stuff my magical thinking was spreading just to keep me going. I took a lot, I was asking for a perspective change but I was given all the ways I creativity cover up my feelings and that that is better spent else where when I'm in a better environment with an actual community.
Thanks for doing what you do and sharing these awesome videos!!!!❤🎉
I’ve had anxiety and depression for 6 months due to a mentally abusive relationship i had in the same period. I broke up with my partner and have been working on getting better for a couple of months. I talked with a therapist, started working out more, got a better sleep rythm, spent more time with my family and friends (almost had to force myself at times) and talked openly with them about my feelings. I found comfort in listening to music and reading and cut out short sightet rewards like drinking, drugs, smoking, scrolling reels and using my phone. These things may not work for everyone, but they worked for me and i have gotten much better. Yesterday i was blessed with the news that i got a job I’ve been dreaming of for the last year and a half. Things are becoming meaningful again and my life has direction and purpose. If i can do it, you guys can too!
This is awesome, appreciate the effort, helped me out
Thanks bro, I appreciate this quite a lot.
this video disappeared a while back. I'm glad I've found it again
Back to your absurdist, depressive roots. Camus start and a Camus finish. Love to watch the content get to depths I never would expect with stick figures. Thanks for what you’ve done for one for me and the many who struggle to formulate the great lacking. Love this Canuck
Thank you for this
Thank you, thank you so much. Really, thank you.
This channel know what I am feeling rn :)
i feel like the why we hope can be tied nicely together with Sisyphus
I have genuinely had depression my entire life and it’s really odd not to have seen the world the way other people do at all. One thing that really annoys me is that no one I know shares my beliefs, I believe anyone should be allowed to peacefully end their life if it gets too much. That “would you jump out of a burning building analogy” is really meaningful, I have been trapped in this burning building all my life and I just want to escape.
i also share that belief. i mean, if everyone has the right to live, then shouldnt it be reasonable that we have the right not to?
yea but the idea that most people subscribe to is that the action will hurt people around you more then yourself@@Memzys
I think so too. we never had a choice whether to be born or not, we just were. but why aren't we allowed to die, then? it's a "gift" we didn't ask for.
I understand, if we were given a choice but no knowledge of what "life" is, we would be deciding blindly anyway. and neither do we know for sure what happens after death, yet it seems like the better, if not the only alternative to this torture.
sometimes I wish it was possible to disappear into thin air. no euthanasia or suicide, simply being gone in a second, with nothing to clean up or cry over
@@dimmi_woah8520 i know, my underlying point is that this idea is flawed. people may feel hurt over any action, that by itself should not dictate the necessity of that action. it is my life, not theirs, and i am not obligated to live for any person. thats what it means to be free, isnt it?
maybe this is a very individualistic approach. i guess to a utilitarian your argument may be more favorable, generally speaking.
@@dimmi_woah8520But that doesn’t matter to the person who is ending their own life, since reality and everything in it dies with them.
I’ve found that the greatest antidote for the listless and absurd existential depression I sometimes find myself in is to do things which negate my focus on myself. That cause a short period of the obliteration of myself. And I don’t mean through drugs or alcohol, I’ve tried that and it doesn’t work well for me. It’s by putting myself in a position to serve others selflessly. With no expectation of anything in return. It doesn’t work forever, as in it’s not a one and done sort of cure. But whenever I find myself in that place emotionally, I help someone else. And it usually is abated until the next time it pops up.
great work. Thank you!
Watching this video didn't cure my depression, but it let me know that I will always have hope.
"Over intellectualizing can imprison someone into a life of contemplative unhappiness; sacrificing one's few breaths on Earth for a chance for some higher order truth" 15:50
This hit close to home for me, people can spend hours going back amd forth in theor minds for answers that we wont get, no matter how hard you try. And fighting it will only bring your life into a pit and youll end up feeling unsatisfied at the end.
Fantastic video. I’ve been dealing with depression (amongst other things) all my life. I’m 60 now and the only thing that has changed (regarding my depression) is my understanding of it. Even understanding it better I still always revert back to the same coping mechanisms I’ve always used… One of which is that generic hope that you reference… and even when I am in the process of clinging to it I always explain to myself that this isnt about solving whatever issue put me into this particular depressive state. It’s about a general belief that something somewhere is better/ is going to get better and that feeling will somehow make it back to me so I can maybe soften the blow of my next depressive state. That’s because the present state that I’m dealing with is already here and that train has left the station. It has me. My hope is about the future. Sorry for the rambling. Your videos are always enlightening, informative, understanding and thought provoking. Keep up the good work. ✌🏽
…this came out at a good time. Thankyou.
only a little bit in but "saying it makes it real" makes me finally feel understood
Genuinely thought I was the only one with depression who had these "enlightened mania" episodes. I feel so much less alone knowing I'm not, those have terrified me.
The part about seeing depression as a mystery rather than a problem made me rethink on how I see my own depression. Rather than wanting a single solution, I might think about depression as a curious search of what could be, even if it's less optimistocally. But that "to hope" is what im going to carry with me - that I'm going to be looking at what happens next.
Thank you Sisyphus 55, you truly are
One of my greatest sources of despair is the fact that I’ve yet to find romantic love in my 31 years. I don’t really feel optimistic that I will ever find it and I don’t dare hope that I ever will. What keeps me going is the hope that whether I find love or not, I will feel happy and content with myself in the end, whenever that may be. Love seems like a beautiful, life changing thing, but there is a lot more to life than love and I hope I never forget that.