Every one of my straight friends said they were blindsided by his bisexuality and I was like, it was obvious. I don't think straight people understand or can recognize when someone is questioning their sensuality. And just dismiss the behavior. 🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
I think it depends on a lot of things. I’m bi and I’m rewatching the show and I still really don’t see it. Like here or there maybe but I definitely don’t with Eddie. And I always find two male characters to ship together in a show. Now in 7x4 I spotted his like of Tommy and anger at Eddie for cock blocking right away.
Yeah, I have binged the series since S01 after Buck's sexuakity became a hot topic... And well, the hints were already present since S01. It felt the showrunners already wanted to go to this storyline with him, but kept delaying/pushing back. Like that one season when suddenly Buck started seeing therapist (and everyone assumed he had a secret gf), it felt like he was starting to question things about himself. But the writers ended up pushing toward his relationship with his parents first. And the kiss with Lucy, who has always been the more gutsy vibe (may I say more masculine?) compared to Taylor hinted at that. It's also more obvious after Eddie entered the show, although I'm pretty sure by now 'Buddie' will never happen. They are just best buds plus co parents to Chris and will likely never become romantic. Not Buck's issue, but Eddy is just not attuned that way. Although they WILL complement each other nicely as they both feel safe and open to be themselves among each other.
i started watching the show after the bi-buck announcement because i didn't want the network to cancel the show. Id heard that people claimed being blindsided by the announcement so i went in skeptical, but broski, Season 2 Buck was bi as fuck idk where the confusion comes from
Right? I've felt his dualism immediately too. And it was too obvious the showrunners had wanted to reveal it sooner (these are the folks behind Glee and Hollywood after all) but kept postponing it (likely due to Fox's management back then). The funny thing with Buck is he's a bit off in the head. So he just never really realized it.
I went into 9-1-1 after seeing the most out of pocket clips on tiktok & JLH. Then the algorithm caught on that I stayed for those clips and then slid some random buddie tiktoks and as a former supercorp, I was beyond ready to get silly & a little delusional over some non canon shipping. It was game over after the Christmas episode. I remember telling my friend who I watched the s4 finale with that I could have sworn I heard something about Buck being gay but doubted it because those things don't happen. And yet... tho the writing itself left a lot to be desired I still cannot believe that Evan Buckley is actually bisexual. If only more shows took audience interpretation into account more
@@Paola-mh9jo it's awful now i can almost see it being canceled and they blaming it on buck's bisexuality when in reality the episodes has gotten worse and worse since season 4
Honestly I'm still kinda in shock that they made Buck Bi, I thought the show would just end up missing the opportunity to make a great LGBT character. It makes me happy knowing they finally made Buck bi.
When The Legend of Korra ended, the confirmed queerness hit me at night, hours after I watched the episode. I was in my bed, actually crying from happiness. The way the show went about Korra being bi wasn't perfect (as many people on the Internet bitterly like to point out) but to me it still is a defining moment in children's media and something very dear to my heart as a bi guy.
True enough, it was a curveball that took me a little while to understand as well. As a gay guy, I’m happy you were able to feel connected to Korra and Asami, but for me it was the start of long lasting resentment for Avatar’s queer characters that I still have to this day, but not because they’re queer, but because they’re all women. Not a single guy. Or if there were I can assure you they are either insignificant or basically dead. God knows they’ve had plenty of opportunities to rectify that in official media since 2014. But I am still waiting. Drives me insane.
Honestly I feel this with The Owl House. Up until watching that show I didn’t fully understand how LGBTQ+ representation could make someone feel so happy, and a lot of that had to do with my own closeted upbringing. It wasn’t until after I came out to my girlfriend and watched the show like a year after that, that I started to feel the kind of happiness that I think other LGBTQ+ people feel when they watch stuff like that. It’s a real, genuine happiness that I don’t know I could actually give proper language to at this moment. It’s just genuinely a crazy, beautiful acknowledgment of a part of you that doesn’t get enough attention, and actively tries to get snuffed out in the world around you. I’m glad that I think I get it now
The reason why it wasn’t done well was because the studio fought the creators, tooth and nail, not to have it in. I can’t remember which one it was, but there is an interview with them and they’re talking about the ending and they said that the ending was supposed to be much differently than how it was shown in the final episode but Nickelodeon didn’t really want that so they had to change it. This is ultimately what lead up to how Rebecca Sugar fought for Steven Universe to have the representation in her show.
I feel like the bitterness against Korrasami's portrayal almost always comes from people who can't get their heads around the progress of time lol. 2014 was a very different era and queer rights were only just starting to gain traction in much of the western world. Korra and Asami's slightly ambiguous kiss was the step that needed to happen so shows like the Owl House or Steven Universe could get as far as they did. I feel like too many people just can't wrap their heads around the fact that positive change isn't about magically flipping a switch so that everything changes overnight, but rather about gradual change overtime. Then again maybe I'm just biased because it was Korra that helped me realise I was bi lol....
Exactly! I've scrolled past this exact show and never chosen to watch it, but watched SkyMed because it was clear from the beginning that there were Queer characters and a diverse cast (excellent series, btw, definitely recommend if medical shows are your thing)
This, I think, is one of the most salient arguments *for* representation. If representation really doesn't matter, then why do people get so deeply upset when characters are made openly, canonically queer? As long as there are still people who have this visceral, rageful reaction to seeing queer people existing, that representation will continue to be paramount.
3:15 - "For some, Buck's queercoding happens the second he appears on-screen." (Text reads: "Written by Ryan Murphy") Yeah. Yeah that's a pretty strong foot forward.
i remember i was at my 70+ yr old aunt’s house the night 7x04 aired and we were watching another show when the 9-1-1 promo came on and she kind of offhandedly said she’d been meaning to watch that so just the fact that someone like her could stumble into that representation is why the distinction between network and streaming is so important
29:58 "Buck was no longer one of my favorite characters that I wished was LGBT; he was now one of my favorite LGBT characters." I *feel* this. I watched the episode with my very straight friend who was supportive and positive about Buck's bisexuality, but *I* was SOBBING. It meant *so* much to me. I've never seen something like that on TV before. 9-1-1 isn't a show about queerness, but the representation of queerness is beautiful and vast without feeling oppressive or an intense focus (compared to a show like Heartstopper, a show focused on queerness with also a lot of representation). Buck was always my favorite too, since l'd been sitting on the couch with my mom at 12 years old watching our silly little show together. But now it's so, so much more. I’m 18 now, watching my lifelong favorite TV character realize something about himself that it was so life-changing and difficult for me to realize about myself. I wish I could put into words how much this means to me. This video encompassed it very well. Thank you.
The other thing about the lone star episode is that Buck tells TK about stealing the firetruck, but he doesn't say that he stole it *to pick up girls*, that's exactly the type of thing you leave out of the story if you want to leave the door open to a gay man.
Im probably in the minority of Non-Watching Tumblr users who thought Bucks Bi-sexuality was canon years ago. Big props to my mutuals who's passion was so strong i believed it. So, when it did go canon i was shooketh because couldn't understand why everyone was acting like its new. But Oliver's defense of Bi!Buck interviews did finally get me to watch the show. EDIT: NYGMOBBLEPOT MENTION IN THE WILD!!
@erosheartache2398 You with Buck was me with Tracer in Overwatch. Everyone was freaking out over her being a lesbian and I was like "wait, I thought everyone was obsessed with this game was because they were all gay!"
LOL, my mom and sister mentioned watching 9-1-1 and I said something like, Oh, the one with the two guys who are a couple? Neither of them had any idea what I was talking about. Tumblr fandoms had led me astray! Except now it turns out they didn't, and for once all the shippy fanvids and gifs were dead on after all! I may have to share this video with them…. (Well, at least with my mom, since my sister's Ace and I know from experience it would probably make her uncomfortable to think about the whole issue.)
I relate to this, I remember before I started watching 911 (like just before s6). When I saw it on TT, I thought ‘oh that show about firefighters with that one bi dude right’. Then I googled and realised that buck wasn’t bi (at the time).
Seen people saying the relationship moved too fast, but nearly every relationship on this show moved really quickly. Eddie regularly starts dating someone and has introduced her to Chris by the next episode. He asked Marisol out at the end of s6 and by s07e5 she had moved in. Bobby and Athena had one bonding experience in a church and then a date by the end of s1 and had been dating secretly for months by the start of s2. Buck has always moved fast on his part with his relationships, both platonic and romantic, but with the latter his girlfriends have evened out the pace. With Tommy, he's said they're going at Bucks pace (in the unfortunately deleted scene with Hen) so it makes sense its happening quickly, because that's who Buck is, the 0-100, all or nothing guy. As Athena would say, he's been Bucked.
The fact that he realized the meaning of true love by seeing elderly gay men 5 seasons before coming to terms with his sexuality was so so beautiful of an inclusion I will always appreciate.
you listing emma swan in those characters u wish are queer is so real. i definitely thought that storyline w that girl when she was younger would be gay...
Im not usually a gay guy who talks or cares about queer issues, but the way they did Buckley was perfection. Honestly, i think it mirrors real life- coming out is hard because people feel decieved and i think thats the root of a lot of the anger we receive. Its different than introducing yourself as gay or whatever. I like that 911 shows that and also how the show is just so wholesome in general, not super edgy, just regular people living their regular lives.
Hell yeah! Time to learn a bunch of stuff about a show that, realistically-speaking, I will probably never watch, but that I none the less care enough about to watch the entire 30+ minutes of the video!
This sums it up really well - as a fandom follower who has been burned so many times, the fact that Buck (and Benedict Bridgerton) were confirmed bi in the series is shocking (in a great way)....i just never assume that the producers will have the guts and the fact that we are in that era is so brilliant to me.
i started watching this show BECAUSE of buck being confirmed bi and the internet started talking about it. at first i was like, that show that my parents watch? i'll give it a try if i get a queer character coming out that seems fun. then BOOM i watched all of it in less than a month and i fell in love with all the characters.
About half of 9-1-1s weekly audience is streaming and globally it mostly is a streaming show on Disney+ so it’s a big moment for both platforms. Going back though you can make an argument that they sort of started preparing the ground for this in season 6 even if unintentionally.There’s the scene in 6x01 where Bobby and Buck have a heart to heart about Buck not being at “peace” with himself and he needed to answer those “questions” himself. It also in my head cannon helps explain why Bobby wasn’t in the least bit shocked about Tommy. Then after his near death experience when Buck admits to Eddie he’s almost having to put on a performance of being his old self to make other people happy when really that’s not who he is, or wants to be anymore. But yeah it’s pretty obvious in retrospective in season 4 when Buck confesses to his therapist he hides his true feelings, they were attempting to lay the ground but Fox shot them down.
I remember when DC created Val-Zod, a Kryptonian who looked like a black guy, and made him Superman in an Elseworlds story, and a bunch of whiny babies said "The writers ruined Superman, and now I can't relate to him." Like Superman was never human, you already couldn't relate to him on that level, you could relate to him on the striving for peace and justice way. Honestly, I get tired of "anti-woke" people and their bizarre identity politics of it's not about cis-hetero, white, able-bodied, neurotypical men, then it's not for them. I watched the Boondocks, and there were elements I could never understand thanks to being a white guy, but I still found myself relating to the characters, and enjoying their antics.
The same thing happened with Ariel! They made her black and then suddenly people were crying like they killed her off! It’s still the same story! It’s still the same girl who strives to enter a world she’s fascinated by and can feel free in! Also she’s a MERMAID!! What does it matter that she’s black, she’s a fish woman! You related to the OG fish woman as a human, how’s the new Ariel that different??
i think the funniest possible outcome is them making eddie queer and then committing hard to them being queer best friends. Like as a buddie shipper part of me is genuinely pulling for that to happen it would be so so funny please abc
@@els725 All his other relationships didn't give him the same amount of confidence and self-reflection as Tommy did in literally...3-4 episodes. Their chemistry is so insane in such a small time frame. Also, to have Eddie go through another similar awakening as Buck did in season 7, wouldn't be realistic at all. There has never once been any hints that Eddie finds men attractive. That entire jealous basketball scene with Buck, Chimney, Tommy, and Eddie is crazy once you know the proper context. How the camera pans to Tommy like it's in Buck's POV is so subtle and I love it! Buck grew so much just by thinking about how he could be with Tommy again (after the whole...first date situation) that he never showed during his other relationships. Also, his facial expressions literally show infatuation every time he sees Tommy. I don't understand how people are so blind by their attraction to each other?
@@els725 all his relationships since Abby honestly felt unsettled, temporary. There was always a sense of "this doesn't quite work", you know? Idk how to describe it but it always felt like there was an underlying tension there. I'm also not quite sure how many more seasons we'll get, so there's that.
I was one of those who watched it after buck came out. Not so much because I was invested in his sexuality, but more that it was interesting seeing a show make this sort of move.
I watched the first season years ago but didn't pick it back up once the second season started. I had really liked it but I sort of just forgot about it. When Buck came out everyone was freaking out online enough that it leaked into my social media feed. That fandom excitement finally convinced me to pick it back up.
I always thought of Buck as bi but he hadn't found a guy he liked enough to introduce to people, therefore we didn't see them. I was more shocked at Tommy being Buck's first boyfriend.
That was a powerful video! I actually teared up near the end when you were talking about the two lists and how it hit you that he was no longer on the "I wish he were" list. I felt that! Thank you for sharing your perspective and experience. Good stuff!
@@rabnerd28 Ive never watch this show too, so may i ask (you can go into spoilers if you like) in your opinion does this show gives off a vibe that they will make Buck the type of Bi character that only screw around with guys (once he's comfortable with his sexuality) yet will have him end up with a woman as end game? A lot of show tends to do that. And i dont know if wanna start a show that might end up disappointing me 😅 (can a bisexual men end up with a guy at the end and NOT die or have to marry a woman for some reason or another, like being with a woman is not an issue but im kinda tired of this trope yanno)
@bigfellowjamarcus6271 Not sure. Honestly most of Buck's romances haven't been great regardless of gender so at the very least it might just end up kinda bleh no matter what.
I started watching 911 because Buck came out as bi. Fell in love with Buck and all the characters. Just got to season 7 the other day, finished it this morning. I really wish they had been able to develop the Buck/Tommy relationship more, but I know that it was a shorter season because of the strikes. Really looking forward to season 8 to see where it goes.
I loved so much how they portrayed the simple experience of "something missing" for so many years. It humanized it so much too non-queer people I feel like to put in such terms of desiring "ease" with nothing working until he finally felt "free" when he realized he was queer.
It's SO important to have "surprise" queer characters who weren't telegraphed in a way that audience's could prepare for/subconsciously or consciously distance themselves from relating to. And to have him be so masculine and a main character and fan favorite too.
Loved your video - thanks for taking the time to film and edit it. What you said about Tim Drake's lame boyfriend totally resonated with me, as especially as a fan of Iceman in the X-Men who has had so many lame, underdeveloped relationships with one-off characters who suck. I think that when a queer character comes out and is immediately given a love interest, it works a lot better if the love interest is also a character fans are invested in and who already has substantial character development. Let Tim Drake date (or have a disastrous hook up with) Connor Kent. Let Iceman date a man who is as interesting as Mystique or Kitty Pride (not in inhumane named Romeo lmfao).
@zackwilson8701 This comment weirdly got me thinking about Deadpool and his lack of interesting love interests and how he's never really dated a guy before. Every time he starts getting with someone who'll be gone in a few issues, I just want to yell, "BUT WHAT ABOUT YOUR EX-HUSBAND CABLE!"
This " oh" 2:22 broke me. I needed to pause as I was properly snort laughing. When I finally got myself undercotnrol I went back to try again only to break a second time. Thank you so much for this great video.
One aspect of bigotry that is important to remember is many people have a preconceived notion of what certain demographics are like in their head, but when they finally *know* someone within that demographic, their notions clash with reality and they end up having their minds changed. Having Buck introduced and then *later on* be revealed as queer is a small but meaningful way to do that to people who watched 911 on cable.
I love that you added clips from legends of tomorrow cause I feel like I don’t see that show get enough love (literally EVERY character in that show is queer coded with few exceptions lmao)
I’m pretty sure he’s gay. His ex girlfriend made a comment like she “always knew” which I feel like only makes sense if he wasn’t really attracted to her (also I’m pretty sure the character only came out because Colton Haynes came out as gay in real life)
The backlash is always why tv producers back out. It’s so annoying because they want it both ways. They want to lean as far into characters being together and queer without actually confirming it to piss off homophobic fans.
8:35 when he goes to donate, the woman at the counter hands him two magazines, the first with women, the second is put visibly in frame with a man’s face on the cover… to me that was a big hint wen I was watching the show
You are magnificent. I laughed, I cried, I laughed some more. Thank you for expressing my feelings in watching 9-1-1. I saw something on Tumblr, watched the Tommy kiss episode, then went back and watched the entire series - so I'm new to the character. But it resonated deeply with me, and you summed it up perfectly.
Thank you for emphasizing why this was that much more significant that Buck was bi, specifically (and even more specifically, a bi man). Our erasure is such a thing we're used to, and while we celebrate any and all queer representation in media, getting one 'for us' just feels so monumental every single time. Hearing those numbers you shared, it's easy to understand why!
Really enjoyed this video! Your passion was palpable ❤️ I’m a bi guy and I absolutely agree with you that representation matters, especially when it comes to bi male characters. It’s so disappointing how few confirmed bi characters and especially bi men there are in media. All of those examples of characters you wished were bisexual hit so hard. Also lmao I definitely started watching Teen Wolf because of the fandom hype for Sterek that permeated my dash so I feeeeeel. The section about network vs. streaming was really informative and such a good point about intentionality vs. accidental exposure.
Wow this got a subscription. I feel like I’ve never had someone express my feelings so perfectly regarding gay/bi characters (specifically male) in media as you have. This truly is groundbreaking and I’m so happy for everyone involved and also just for the queer fans. One day this will be “normal” and queer fans will never have to hope and get burned. This really feels like the first time they have gone through with it with such a high profile character on a network show, who usually is there for cis straight guys/people to relate to. I’m totally watching the show now. Thank you!
My mom was blindsided by bi buck ( been watching since season 2, i've watched since 3 game out ) but I told her that I clocked him since I started watching and that its essier for queer people to clock a queer character than it is for a straight person
I'm guessing that 'This character is no longer relatable' is code for 'I'm a raging homophobe and I hate that this character I see myself in now has been sullied by The Gays™'.
I thoroughly enjoyed your video. I thought it was a great analysis about the relationship and all that came before it. I think that's why I enjoyed his final realization of his bisexuality, that it was a gradual, realistic, realization, and that everyone else in his life seem to understand it except for him.
I never even heard of this show until April when it was all over Tumblr with Buck being bi. But I just finished binging it, and man I love that show, and man I love Buck.
ever since the episode aired, i've had moments where I'll just forget that buck is canonically bi, and then remember and can't stop myself from smiling like an idiot
When i watch many tv shows that imply it, instead of saying it, it's like people think that bi men are a myth. They do not really exist you know? And the only way of a woman being bi, is for the male gaze. And im there like... do even people know what bisexual means? It is not about choosing with whom you're gonna end up with, a man or a woman. It is not the one or the other. You're not gonna suddenly stop liking women if you also like men, if you're bi. You like both. It is not math. And that comes from a straight person, with my whole respect towards people of the community of course.
I’ve never watched 9-1-1, and I doubt I ever will, but this was very interesting, and I really enjoyed watching it! (Also the Quentin jumpscare at 29:21 brought back feelings about that show, so I’m going to go read more fanfic to try and get over it again)
I love 9-1-1! I love how it's so fucking over the top! The cruise story line was pure gold! I caught Buck's bi-fi signal ages ago and I was so happy that it got canonized!! I was kinda worried it would be just an other queer bait!
15:39 tbh that’s exactly what happened to me. i started watching 911 when there were only 4 seasons and i stopped because i couldn’t handle another queerbaiting storyline that ended in a purely heterosexual way. then buck came out as bi and i immediately binge watched the whole thing (which was what i’d wanted to do since the beginning, but didn’t want to be disappointed by the queerbaiting). anyways, now i love it and i can’t wait for season 8 :) just thought i’d share :)
this video came out close to seven months ago & ive watched this no less than two dozen times. i started 911 in 2020 cause ive been a chronic procedural lover & wanted something to crochet to...obviously buck became my blorbo. this video feels like a well-constructed essay that lays out every stray thought ive had about this show over the years. emotional support video essay ♡
Holy shit I’ve never heard ANYONE ELSE talk about wishing/hoping that Parker and Hardison are queer! That makes me so excited, I love leverage and it’s always been my personal head cannon that they’re both queer. And a certain someone in the reboot lol.
I had this conversation with my daughter. Growing up decades ago (this is not an endorsement, but an observation), I was literally taught that it was rude, potentially insulting, or downright dangerous to project sexuality onto a person. You were never to assume that they were anything but straight (or to openly admit you thought so) unless the person specifically came out. I realize times have changed for many people, but not for everyone everywhere. It's sad, but if the truth can get someone beaten, kicked to the curb, or tormented, you learn to not only keep your mouth shut, but deny, deny, deny. So, now, it is very, very hard to speak openly about anything like someone's sexuality without discomfort. I am so glad it is changing, but for everyone struggling to understand, please know you aren't imagining it, but it may not be motivated by what you think it is (not intentional gaslighting, but allowing people who won't get to watch if it's openky stared). The cultural shift to accepting the reality that lgbtq has always been here is amazing, but the denial has been baked in. A lot of older people want to protect their loved ones by helping them hide. They are doing a bad thing for a "good" reason. Btw, Dean was gay. For anyone who grew up in the 80s and 90s, that wasn't subtle. It was written for our generation, and that's how we would have said he was gay. It wasn't about the sex. It was about the romance. He had two boyfriends on the show: Cas and Crowley. They completely changed who they were made to be (literally by God for Cas) because he needed them. He accepted them for who they were. So, I give a pass to the queer baiting claim because it spanned such a long time and knew its audience well enough to know how to stay on the air. You can disagree, but I think you need to place it in the setting of the time. It didn't tip its hand until the end, but it did finally do it.
I was on vacation, with my bestie, I woke up, and was scrolling, I ignored the first two articles in my google feed, then saw a picture, read the article, and as someone who has been wrestling with my nonbinary-ness, and relating to male characters as someone AFAB since McShep, the fact that it was TOMMY hit me right in my John Sheppard feels. So, that made highschool me, who was arguing WoCo (women in combat) in Debate, and growling about DADT around the Day of Silence Action days with NoH8's campaigns -- the fact that Tommy was a character that we knew from season 2 and has a military background? it mattered so much to me
Im so glad you made this video ! I have been so passionate about this but did not have the words and you literally wrapped it all in a bow perfectly! #EddieAndBuck
I liked the commentary, even if it was a bit snarky! It’s funny that most of your points really reflect a much larger problem in our country right now. And it does all go back to straight white men! Keep up the good work. 👍🏽
I don’t watch this show but follow someone who does so I’d see gif-sets from it sometimes. When he reblogged some stuff from the episode where he was confirmed bi I was like “good for them!” It’s always a victory when a character isn’t just hinted at being queer and just goes to being confirmed.
One of the characters on my second list is Steve Rogers and Bucky Barnes which sadly won’t ever leave that list. After Endgame, Steve Rogers returned to the past to be with Peggy Carter so now Stucky’s ship has sadly sunken and will never ever sail. It would’ve been such a good storyline too.
I do think that maybe in the older seasons it was their plan to have Buck and Eddie together, but that never panned out, and to be honest, I like them as close friends a lot better. I'm absolutely loving Buck being with Tommy and I hope that continues.
They are such close friends, their friendship 🤝 would compete for time with their partners though. Their friendship at its current level and a loving relationship cannot coexist. Well, unless it is with a partner who is polyamorous by nature, so would not mind being jealous of Buck/Eddie being closer to their boyfriend than them. Though, considering the show's target 🎯 audience, that is probably a good idea to avoid.
This was a great video essay, thank you for making it! I love your clever interjections and sides, your points and emotional archs were intentional and connected well with me. Keep going!
I actually stopped watching 911 for about 2 years until a friend told me I HAD to start rewatching but didn't tell me why. I was delighted that my feelings were validated. I also cried and rewatched the kiss like 5 times cause I couldn't believe it. I adore when actors see something in their character that not even the writers realize it's there. I was once a die hard SPN fan, but dropped it 2-3 yrs before the finale as the queer baiting & fan baiting was just exhausting and made the show too cringey. This is my first time watching your videos and I really enjoy your passionate deadpan.
A+ So I stumbled across your video thanks to the UA-cam Wormhole Algorithm. And have never watched a second of 911. BUT I thoroughly enjoyed every moment of your quite perceptive and articulate dissection of this show and the broader queer coding movement in recent broadcast years. Just wanted to express my appreciation for a such a well constructed presentation and earnest personal reaction to this still achingly nuanced storytelling on mainstream platforms. Thank You!
Dang, you're freaking brilliant! Now I gotta start watching another channel. p.s. That was a bachelor crossover?! A bachelor did cross over to the Q-side ; )
This is my first time watching one of your videos, I had never even heard of the show, but you explained everything so well and presented it so clearly with the right amount of humor. Excited to go through the rest of your catalog!
I was also one of the wary viewers. I stopped at season 2 because I got busy with other shows that I loved, but I picked it back up when this whole thing happened.
Everytime someone talks about queercoding I always think about Yellowjackets because GOD are all the characters in that show queercoded and in love with each other
Every one of my straight friends said they were blindsided by his bisexuality and I was like, it was obvious. I don't think straight people understand or can recognize when someone is questioning their sensuality. And just dismiss the behavior. 🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
I think it depends on a lot of things. I’m bi and I’m rewatching the show and I still really don’t see it. Like here or there maybe but I definitely don’t with Eddie. And I always find two male characters to ship together in a show. Now in 7x4 I spotted his like of Tommy and anger at Eddie for cock blocking right away.
Blindsided is so funny lol
bullshit.
Yeah, I have binged the series since S01 after Buck's sexuakity became a hot topic...
And well, the hints were already present since S01. It felt the showrunners already wanted to go to this storyline with him, but kept delaying/pushing back. Like that one season when suddenly Buck started seeing therapist (and everyone assumed he had a secret gf), it felt like he was starting to question things about himself. But the writers ended up pushing toward his relationship with his parents first. And the kiss with Lucy, who has always been the more gutsy vibe (may I say more masculine?) compared to Taylor hinted at that.
It's also more obvious after Eddie entered the show, although I'm pretty sure by now 'Buddie' will never happen. They are just best buds plus co parents to Chris and will likely never become romantic. Not Buck's issue, but Eddy is just not attuned that way. Although they WILL complement each other nicely as they both feel safe and open to be themselves among each other.
I’m a lesbian and had no idea ( I’m also autistic so that may play in)
i started watching the show after the bi-buck announcement because i didn't want the network to cancel the show. Id heard that people claimed being blindsided by the announcement so i went in skeptical, but broski, Season 2 Buck was bi as fuck idk where the confusion comes from
also, if anyone here is debating the show: it's genuinely so good.
like, seasons 2 and 3 are some of the best television I've seen in so long
Right? I've felt his dualism immediately too. And it was too obvious the showrunners had wanted to reveal it sooner (these are the folks behind Glee and Hollywood after all) but kept postponing it (likely due to Fox's management back then).
The funny thing with Buck is he's a bit off in the head. So he just never really realized it.
I went into 9-1-1 after seeing the most out of pocket clips on tiktok & JLH. Then the algorithm caught on that I stayed for those clips and then slid some random buddie tiktoks and as a former supercorp, I was beyond ready to get silly & a little delusional over some non canon shipping.
It was game over after the Christmas episode. I remember telling my friend who I watched the s4 finale with that I could have sworn I heard something about Buck being gay but doubted it because those things don't happen. And yet... tho the writing itself left a lot to be desired I still cannot believe that Evan Buckley is actually bisexual. If only more shows took audience interpretation into account more
@@Paola-mh9jo it's awful now i can almost see it being canceled and they blaming it on buck's bisexuality when in reality the episodes has gotten worse and worse since season 4
I’m aroace. If I quit watching shows EVERY TIME a character that I relate to turns out NOT to be aroace, I would never be able to watch anything ever.
"It all comes back to Supernatural 😂" the weariness on your voice made me truly laugh out loud
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Honestly I'm still kinda in shock that they made Buck Bi, I thought the show would just end up missing the opportunity to make a great LGBT character. It makes me happy knowing they finally made Buck bi.
What about Hen?
WWHHATT BUCK IS BIII?!?!!❤❤❤
Did you forget all the other LGBT characters, most of whom are POC, on the show or are you only concerned about the hot white guy? I’ll wait.
Except there’s already a couple of great characters. Oh. Wait. It only counts when they’re while guys. Got it.
This is such a weird thing to say when Hen exists 😭
making Buck bi was history. Oliver himself has always said that Buck has been queer ❤
He is not bi. He is just a Ally. 😅
@@themachiavellian8961 no he is bi
@@Abbygail07 /whoosh
When The Legend of Korra ended, the confirmed queerness hit me at night, hours after I watched the episode. I was in my bed, actually crying from happiness.
The way the show went about Korra being bi wasn't perfect (as many people on the Internet bitterly like to point out) but to me it still is a defining moment in children's media and something very dear to my heart as a bi guy.
True enough, it was a curveball that took me a little while to understand as well. As a gay guy, I’m happy you were able to feel connected to Korra and Asami, but for me it was the start of long lasting resentment for Avatar’s queer characters that I still have to this day, but not because they’re queer, but because they’re all women. Not a single guy. Or if there were I can assure you they are either insignificant or basically dead. God knows they’ve had plenty of opportunities to rectify that in official media since 2014. But I am still waiting. Drives me insane.
Honestly I feel this with The Owl House. Up until watching that show I didn’t fully understand how LGBTQ+ representation could make someone feel so happy, and a lot of that had to do with my own closeted upbringing. It wasn’t until after I came out to my girlfriend and watched the show like a year after that, that I started to feel the kind of happiness that I think other LGBTQ+ people feel when they watch stuff like that. It’s a real, genuine happiness that I don’t know I could actually give proper language to at this moment. It’s just genuinely a crazy, beautiful acknowledgment of a part of you that doesn’t get enough attention, and actively tries to get snuffed out in the world around you. I’m glad that I think I get it now
The reason why it wasn’t done well was because the studio fought the creators, tooth and nail, not to have it in. I can’t remember which one it was, but there is an interview with them and they’re talking about the ending and they said that the ending was supposed to be much differently than how it was shown in the final episode but Nickelodeon didn’t really want that so they had to change it. This is ultimately what lead up to how Rebecca Sugar fought for Steven Universe to have the representation in her show.
I feel like the bitterness against Korrasami's portrayal almost always comes from people who can't get their heads around the progress of time lol.
2014 was a very different era and queer rights were only just starting to gain traction in much of the western world. Korra and Asami's slightly ambiguous kiss was the step that needed to happen so shows like the Owl House or Steven Universe could get as far as they did. I feel like too many people just can't wrap their heads around the fact that positive change isn't about magically flipping a switch so that everything changes overnight, but rather about gradual change overtime. Then again maybe I'm just biased because it was Korra that helped me realise I was bi lol....
Ultimately, the reason representation matters is because if it didn't, why do so many try to stop it? I'm now debating watching this show.
This is an excellent answer.
Now that there’s a white guy playing bi, you’ll watch?
Exactly!
I've scrolled past this exact show and never chosen to watch it, but watched SkyMed because it was clear from the beginning that there were Queer characters and a diverse cast (excellent series, btw, definitely recommend if medical shows are your thing)
This, I think, is one of the most salient arguments *for* representation. If representation really doesn't matter, then why do people get so deeply upset when characters are made openly, canonically queer? As long as there are still people who have this visceral, rageful reaction to seeing queer people existing, that representation will continue to be paramount.
@@jopabr24 I think he means he now wants to watch it rather than the other way around. I read it the same way you did initially lol
3:15 - "For some, Buck's queercoding happens the second he appears on-screen."
(Text reads: "Written by Ryan Murphy")
Yeah. Yeah that's a pretty strong foot forward.
"and finally the kitchen scene, Which one? all of them" that got me i cant stop laughing now
i remember i was at my 70+ yr old aunt’s house the night 7x04 aired and we were watching another show when the 9-1-1 promo came on and she kind of offhandedly said she’d been meaning to watch that so just the fact that someone like her could stumble into that representation is why the distinction between network and streaming is so important
Agreed! It makes it, in a way, unavoidable just like real queer people. It holds up queerness and goes “you can’t walk away from our existence!!”
The chemistry buck and Eddie have with kitchens is such a funny pattern to me 😭
29:58 "Buck was no longer one of my favorite characters that I wished was LGBT; he was now one of my favorite LGBT characters."
I *feel* this. I watched the episode with my very straight friend who was supportive and positive about Buck's bisexuality, but *I* was SOBBING. It meant *so* much to me. I've never seen something like that on TV before. 9-1-1 isn't a show about queerness, but the representation of queerness is beautiful and vast without feeling oppressive or an intense focus (compared to a show like Heartstopper, a show focused on queerness with also a lot of representation). Buck was always my favorite too, since l'd been sitting on the couch with my mom at 12 years old watching our silly little show together. But now it's so, so much more. I’m 18 now, watching my lifelong favorite TV character realize something about himself that it was so life-changing and difficult for me to realize about myself. I wish I could put into words how much this means to me. This video encompassed it very well. Thank you.
The other thing about the lone star episode is that Buck tells TK about stealing the firetruck, but he doesn't say that he stole it *to pick up girls*, that's exactly the type of thing you leave out of the story if you want to leave the door open to a gay man.
Im probably in the minority of Non-Watching Tumblr users who thought Bucks Bi-sexuality was canon years ago. Big props to my mutuals who's passion was so strong i believed it. So, when it did go canon i was shooketh because couldn't understand why everyone was acting like its new. But Oliver's defense of Bi!Buck interviews did finally get me to watch the show. EDIT: NYGMOBBLEPOT MENTION IN THE WILD!!
@erosheartache2398 You with Buck was me with Tracer in Overwatch. Everyone was freaking out over her being a lesbian and I was like "wait, I thought everyone was obsessed with this game was because they were all gay!"
LOL, my mom and sister mentioned watching 9-1-1 and I said something like, Oh, the one with the two guys who are a couple? Neither of them had any idea what I was talking about. Tumblr fandoms had led me astray! Except now it turns out they didn't, and for once all the shippy fanvids and gifs were dead on after all! I may have to share this video with them…. (Well, at least with my mom, since my sister's Ace and I know from experience it would probably make her uncomfortable to think about the whole issue.)
I relate to this, I remember before I started watching 911 (like just before s6). When I saw it on TT, I thought ‘oh that show about firefighters with that one bi dude right’. Then I googled and realised that buck wasn’t bi (at the time).
Seen people saying the relationship moved too fast, but nearly every relationship on this show moved really quickly. Eddie regularly starts dating someone and has introduced her to Chris by the next episode. He asked Marisol out at the end of s6 and by s07e5 she had moved in. Bobby and Athena had one bonding experience in a church and then a date by the end of s1 and had been dating secretly for months by the start of s2. Buck has always moved fast on his part with his relationships, both platonic and romantic, but with the latter his girlfriends have evened out the pace. With Tommy, he's said they're going at Bucks pace (in the unfortunately deleted scene with Hen) so it makes sense its happening quickly, because that's who Buck is, the 0-100, all or nothing guy. As Athena would say, he's been Bucked.
The fact that he realized the meaning of true love by seeing elderly gay men 5 seasons before coming to terms with his sexuality was so so beautiful of an inclusion I will always appreciate.
you listing emma swan in those characters u wish are queer is so real. i definitely thought that storyline w that girl when she was younger would be gay...
I 👀 that 2
Im not usually a gay guy who talks or cares about queer issues, but the way they did Buckley was perfection. Honestly, i think it mirrors real life- coming out is hard because people feel decieved and i think thats the root of a lot of the anger we receive. Its different than introducing yourself as gay or whatever. I like that 911 shows that and also how the show is just so wholesome in general, not super edgy, just regular people living their regular lives.
Hell yeah! Time to learn a bunch of stuff about a show that, realistically-speaking, I will probably never watch, but that I none the less care enough about to watch the entire 30+ minutes of the video!
This sums it up really well - as a fandom follower who has been burned so many times, the fact that Buck (and Benedict Bridgerton) were confirmed bi in the series is shocking (in a great way)....i just never assume that the producers will have the guts and the fact that we are in that era is so brilliant to me.
i started watching this show BECAUSE of buck being confirmed bi and the internet started talking about it. at first i was like, that show that my parents watch? i'll give it a try if i get a queer character coming out that seems fun. then BOOM i watched all of it in less than a month and i fell in love with all the characters.
About half of 9-1-1s weekly audience is streaming and globally it mostly is a streaming show on Disney+ so it’s a big moment for both platforms. Going back though you can make an argument that they sort of started preparing the ground for this in season 6 even if unintentionally.There’s the scene in 6x01 where Bobby and Buck have a heart to heart about Buck not being at “peace” with himself and he needed to answer those “questions” himself. It also in my head cannon helps explain why Bobby wasn’t in the least bit shocked about Tommy. Then after his near death experience when Buck admits to Eddie he’s almost having to put on a performance of being his old self to make other people happy when really that’s not who he is, or wants to be anymore. But yeah it’s pretty obvious in retrospective in season 4 when Buck confesses to his therapist he hides his true feelings, they were attempting to lay the ground but Fox shot them down.
I remember when DC created Val-Zod, a Kryptonian who looked like a black guy, and made him Superman in an Elseworlds story, and a bunch of whiny babies said "The writers ruined Superman, and now I can't relate to him." Like Superman was never human, you already couldn't relate to him on that level, you could relate to him on the striving for peace and justice way. Honestly, I get tired of "anti-woke" people and their bizarre identity politics of it's not about cis-hetero, white, able-bodied, neurotypical men, then it's not for them. I watched the Boondocks, and there were elements I could never understand thanks to being a white guy, but I still found myself relating to the characters, and enjoying their antics.
The same thing happened with Ariel! They made her black and then suddenly people were crying like they killed her off! It’s still the same story! It’s still the same girl who strives to enter a world she’s fascinated by and can feel free in! Also she’s a MERMAID!! What does it matter that she’s black, she’s a fish woman! You related to the OG fish woman as a human, how’s the new Ariel that different??
really beautifully written!
i think the funniest possible outcome is them making eddie queer and then committing hard to them being queer best friends. Like as a buddie shipper part of me is genuinely pulling for that to happen it would be so so funny please abc
It would be hilarious. I'm also just surprisingly on board with Tommy being endgame for Buck, they just work really well.
Also queer friendships are so underdone in shows! I would be happy for it either way
@@Etho_9Genuinely wondering how Tommy is any different from Buck‘s previous love interests (except for the obvious).
@@els725 All his other relationships didn't give him the same amount of confidence and self-reflection as Tommy did in literally...3-4 episodes. Their chemistry is so insane in such a small time frame. Also, to have Eddie go through another similar awakening as Buck did in season 7, wouldn't be realistic at all. There has never once been any hints that Eddie finds men attractive. That entire jealous basketball scene with Buck, Chimney, Tommy, and Eddie is crazy once you know the proper context. How the camera pans to Tommy like it's in Buck's POV is so subtle and I love it! Buck grew so much just by thinking about how he could be with Tommy again (after the whole...first date situation) that he never showed during his other relationships. Also, his facial expressions literally show infatuation every time he sees Tommy. I don't understand how people are so blind by their attraction to each other?
@@els725 all his relationships since Abby honestly felt unsettled, temporary. There was always a sense of "this doesn't quite work", you know? Idk how to describe it but it always felt like there was an underlying tension there. I'm also not quite sure how many more seasons we'll get, so there's that.
I was one of those who watched it after buck came out. Not so much because I was invested in his sexuality, but more that it was interesting seeing a show make this sort of move.
The out loud laugh that came out of me as the supernatural comparisons kept going. 😂
I watched the first season years ago but didn't pick it back up once the second season started. I had really liked it but I sort of just forgot about it. When Buck came out everyone was freaking out online enough that it leaked into my social media feed. That fandom excitement finally convinced me to pick it back up.
You're EXTREMELY good at what you do. Your research, your presentation, your editing.....ALL GOLD STAR!
You know, my mom watch that show, and I always thought that he was bisexual... I don't know, the character has everything to be bi.
I always thought of Buck as bi but he hadn't found a guy he liked enough to introduce to people, therefore we didn't see them. I was more shocked at Tommy being Buck's first boyfriend.
Was also shocked that Tommy was Buck's first bf, too!
“buck will never be bisexual”
_plays clip_
buck: 👁️👄👁️
RABnerd: 👁️👄👁️
us: 👁️👄👁️
YAY ORGY! 😀
I love how you talk like you don't care about or are being forced to talk about these things that we know you absolutely love.
That was a powerful video! I actually teared up near the end when you were talking about the two lists and how it hit you that he was no longer on the "I wish he were" list. I felt that! Thank you for sharing your perspective and experience. Good stuff!
I've never watched this show, but all I can say is at least they didn't get the Destiel treatment lol
@@djdamashii670 Show ain't over yet. There's always time.
@@rabnerd28oh god no
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Ive never watch this show too, so may i ask (you can go into spoilers if you like) in your opinion does this show gives off a vibe that they will make Buck the type of Bi character that only screw around with guys (once he's comfortable with his sexuality) yet will have him end up with a woman as end game?
A lot of show tends to do that. And i dont know if wanna start a show that might end up disappointing me 😅
(can a bisexual men end up with a guy at the end and NOT die or have to marry a woman for some reason or another, like being with a woman is not an issue but im kinda tired of this trope yanno)
@bigfellowjamarcus6271 Not sure. Honestly most of Buck's romances haven't been great regardless of gender so at the very least it might just end up kinda bleh no matter what.
The singing of "Whatta Man". I had to rewind it.
I literally started watching 911 a week before they confirmed Buck's bisexuality. It was probably the biggest win I've had since I came out as pan
I started watching 911 because Buck came out as bi. Fell in love with Buck and all the characters. Just got to season 7 the other day, finished it this morning. I really wish they had been able to develop the Buck/Tommy relationship more, but I know that it was a shorter season because of the strikes. Really looking forward to season 8 to see where it goes.
Buck coming out just made me crush on him even harder 😭
I loved so much how they portrayed the simple experience of "something missing" for so many years. It humanized it so much too non-queer people I feel like to put in such terms of desiring "ease" with nothing working until he finally felt "free" when he realized he was queer.
It's SO important to have "surprise" queer characters who weren't telegraphed in a way that audience's could prepare for/subconsciously or consciously distance themselves from relating to. And to have him be so masculine and a main character and fan favorite too.
Loved your video - thanks for taking the time to film and edit it. What you said about Tim Drake's lame boyfriend totally resonated with me, as especially as a fan of Iceman in the X-Men who has had so many lame, underdeveloped relationships with one-off characters who suck. I think that when a queer character comes out and is immediately given a love interest, it works a lot better if the love interest is also a character fans are invested in and who already has substantial character development. Let Tim Drake date (or have a disastrous hook up with) Connor Kent. Let Iceman date a man who is as interesting as Mystique or Kitty Pride (not in inhumane named Romeo lmfao).
@zackwilson8701 This comment weirdly got me thinking about Deadpool and his lack of interesting love interests and how he's never really dated a guy before. Every time he starts getting with someone who'll be gone in a few issues, I just want to yell, "BUT WHAT ABOUT YOUR EX-HUSBAND CABLE!"
@@rabnerd28 lmfao yessss! Dunno if I'll watch the new Deadpool movie but I imagine they'll play off that same dynamic with Deadpool and Wolverine
This " oh" 2:22 broke me. I needed to pause as I was properly snort laughing. When I finally got myself undercotnrol I went back to try again only to break a second time.
Thank you so much for this great video.
One aspect of bigotry that is important to remember is many people have a preconceived notion of what certain demographics are like in their head, but when they finally *know* someone within that demographic, their notions clash with reality and they end up having their minds changed. Having Buck introduced and then *later on* be revealed as queer is a small but meaningful way to do that to people who watched 911 on cable.
I really enjoyed this. Thanks for being so thorough. Special mention for the Interview With The Vampire shout out 🧛
I love that you added clips from legends of tomorrow cause I feel like I don’t see that show get enough love (literally EVERY character in that show is queer coded with few exceptions lmao)
Jackson from teen wolf is canonically bisexual
I’m pretty sure he’s gay. His ex girlfriend made a comment like she “always knew” which I feel like only makes sense if he wasn’t really attracted to her (also I’m pretty sure the character only came out because Colton Haynes came out as gay in real life)
The backlash is always why tv producers back out. It’s so annoying because they want it both ways. They want to lean as far into characters being together and queer without actually confirming it to piss off homophobic fans.
8:35 when he goes to donate, the woman at the counter hands him two magazines, the first with women, the second is put visibly in frame with a man’s face on the cover… to me that was a big hint wen I was watching the show
You are magnificent. I laughed, I cried, I laughed some more. Thank you for expressing my feelings in watching 9-1-1. I saw something on Tumblr, watched the Tommy kiss episode, then went back and watched the entire series - so I'm new to the character. But it resonated deeply with me, and you summed it up perfectly.
"just like cats" made me laugh so hard i almost had an asthma attack
It is a character in streaming show... but Benedict Bridgerton gives the same vibes in my opinion
For two seasons I screamed "give Benedict a boyfriend, you cowards" into the void. And then... 😊
@@Octobrisand then…? Do I need to give Bridgerton another shot?!
@@CurrentlyAnonymoushe is a confirmed bi noooww!!!!!
Well not really confirmed cause it is the 1800’ lmao but you get the drill
@maco1152 exactly so amazing! 🥰 Finally, it only took 3 seasons. But I guess it made sense since he is exploring his sexuality.
Thank you for emphasizing why this was that much more significant that Buck was bi, specifically (and even more specifically, a bi man). Our erasure is such a thing we're used to, and while we celebrate any and all queer representation in media, getting one 'for us' just feels so monumental every single time. Hearing those numbers you shared, it's easy to understand why!
Never been here before. Never watched that show. Just wanted to say this is very well done. Thanks for sharing.
The Garak & Bashir comment at 22:30 !!!! Lower Decks gave us what we wanted! WOOP.
WHY WOULD YOU REMIND ME ABOUT QUENTIN?!?!?!?! Yay bi Buck tho!
Really enjoyed this video! Your passion was palpable ❤️ I’m a bi guy and I absolutely agree with you that representation matters, especially when it comes to bi male characters. It’s so disappointing how few confirmed bi characters and especially bi men there are in media. All of those examples of characters you wished were bisexual hit so hard. Also lmao I definitely started watching Teen Wolf because of the fandom hype for Sterek that permeated my dash so I feeeeeel. The section about network vs. streaming was really informative and such a good point about intentionality vs. accidental exposure.
Wow this got a subscription. I feel like I’ve never had someone express my feelings so perfectly regarding gay/bi characters (specifically male) in media as you have. This truly is groundbreaking and I’m so happy for everyone involved and also just for the queer fans. One day this will be “normal” and queer fans will never have to hope and get burned. This really feels like the first time they have gone through with it with such a high profile character on a network show, who usually is there for cis straight guys/people to relate to. I’m totally watching the show now. Thank you!
My mom was blindsided by bi buck ( been watching since season 2, i've watched since 3 game out ) but I told her that I clocked him since I started watching and that its essier for queer people to clock a queer character than it is for a straight person
I'm guessing that 'This character is no longer relatable' is code for 'I'm a raging homophobe and I hate that this character I see myself in now has been sullied by The Gays™'.
I thoroughly enjoyed your video. I thought it was a great analysis about the relationship and all that came before it. I think that's why I enjoyed his final realization of his bisexuality, that it was a gradual, realistic, realization, and that everyone else in his life seem to understand it except for him.
I never even heard of this show until April when it was all over Tumblr with Buck being bi. But I just finished binging it, and man I love that show, and man I love Buck.
ever since the episode aired, i've had moments where I'll just forget that buck is canonically bi, and then remember and can't stop myself from smiling like an idiot
When i watch many tv shows that imply it, instead of saying it, it's like people think that bi men are a myth. They do not really exist you know? And the only way of a woman being bi, is for the male gaze. And im there like... do even people know what bisexual means? It is not about choosing with whom you're gonna end up with, a man or a woman. It is not the one or the other. You're not gonna suddenly stop liking women if you also like men, if you're bi. You like both. It is not math. And that comes from a straight person, with my whole respect towards people of the community of course.
I’ve never watched 9-1-1, and I doubt I ever will, but this was very interesting, and I really enjoyed watching it! (Also the Quentin jumpscare at 29:21 brought back feelings about that show, so I’m going to go read more fanfic to try and get over it again)
I didn’t know he was English in real life I love his accent 😍
I searched "Good Luck Babe Chapelle Roan" and ended up here by mistake
Chappell*
That being said, this is too funny 😂😂
I love 9-1-1! I love how it's so fucking over the top! The cruise story line was pure gold!
I caught Buck's bi-fi signal ages ago and I was so happy that it got canonized!! I was kinda worried it would be just an other queer bait!
My mom was shocked. She did not see it coming but I called it years ago.
15:39 tbh that’s exactly what happened to me. i started watching 911 when there were only 4 seasons and i stopped because i couldn’t handle another queerbaiting storyline that ended in a purely heterosexual way. then buck came out as bi and i immediately binge watched the whole thing (which was what i’d wanted to do since the beginning, but didn’t want to be disappointed by the queerbaiting). anyways, now i love it and i can’t wait for season 8 :) just thought i’d share :)
this video came out close to seven months ago & ive watched this no less than two dozen times. i started 911 in 2020 cause ive been a chronic procedural lover & wanted something to crochet to...obviously buck became my blorbo. this video feels like a well-constructed essay that lays out every stray thought ive had about this show over the years. emotional support video essay ♡
Holy shit I’ve never heard ANYONE ELSE talk about wishing/hoping that Parker and Hardison are queer! That makes me so excited, I love leverage and it’s always been my personal head cannon that they’re both queer. And a certain someone in the reboot lol.
I had this conversation with my daughter. Growing up decades ago (this is not an endorsement, but an observation), I was literally taught that it was rude, potentially insulting, or downright dangerous to project sexuality onto a person. You were never to assume that they were anything but straight (or to openly admit you thought so) unless the person specifically came out. I realize times have changed for many people, but not for everyone everywhere. It's sad, but if the truth can get someone beaten, kicked to the curb, or tormented, you learn to not only keep your mouth shut, but deny, deny, deny. So, now, it is very, very hard to speak openly about anything like someone's sexuality without discomfort. I am so glad it is changing, but for everyone struggling to understand, please know you aren't imagining it, but it may not be motivated by what you think it is (not intentional gaslighting, but allowing people who won't get to watch if it's openky stared). The cultural shift to accepting the reality that lgbtq has always been here is amazing, but the denial has been baked in. A lot of older people want to protect their loved ones by helping them hide. They are doing a bad thing for a "good" reason.
Btw, Dean was gay. For anyone who grew up in the 80s and 90s, that wasn't subtle. It was written for our generation, and that's how we would have said he was gay. It wasn't about the sex. It was about the romance. He had two boyfriends on the show: Cas and Crowley. They completely changed who they were made to be (literally by God for Cas) because he needed them. He accepted them for who they were. So, I give a pass to the queer baiting claim because it spanned such a long time and knew its audience well enough to know how to stay on the air. You can disagree, but I think you need to place it in the setting of the time. It didn't tip its hand until the end, but it did finally do it.
I dont understand how some poeple say it's "woke bullshit rewritting" while it was one of the most obvious thing☠️
I was on vacation, with my bestie, I woke up, and was scrolling, I ignored the first two articles in my google feed, then saw a picture, read the article, and as someone who has been wrestling with my nonbinary-ness, and relating to male characters as someone AFAB since McShep, the fact that it was TOMMY hit me right in my John Sheppard feels. So, that made highschool me, who was arguing WoCo (women in combat) in Debate, and growling about DADT around the Day of Silence Action days with NoH8's campaigns -- the fact that Tommy was a character that we knew from season 2 and has a military background? it mattered so much to me
God this got me so emotional by the end. You were spot on with those two lists.
Im so glad you made this video ! I have been so passionate about this but did not have the words and you literally wrapped it all in a bow perfectly! #EddieAndBuck
I liked the commentary, even if it was a bit snarky! It’s funny that most of your points really reflect a much larger problem in our country right now. And it does all go back to straight white men! Keep up the good work. 👍🏽
I don’t watch this show but follow someone who does so I’d see gif-sets from it sometimes. When he reblogged some stuff from the episode where he was confirmed bi I was like “good for them!” It’s always a victory when a character isn’t just hinted at being queer and just goes to being confirmed.
11:10 i was about to say the game is definitely dead, the corpse is just running around 😭
lol all the dean videos while talking about the frustrations of watching ambiguous bi characters, i still love him tho
One of the characters on my second list is Steve Rogers and Bucky Barnes which sadly won’t ever leave that list. After Endgame, Steve Rogers returned to the past to be with Peggy Carter so now Stucky’s ship has sadly sunken and will never ever sail. It would’ve been such a good storyline too.
I do think that maybe in the older seasons it was their plan to have Buck and Eddie together, but that never panned out, and to be honest, I like them as close friends a lot better. I'm absolutely loving Buck being with Tommy and I hope that continues.
They are such close friends, their friendship 🤝 would compete for time with their partners though.
Their friendship at its current level and a loving relationship cannot coexist.
Well, unless it is with a partner who is polyamorous by nature, so would not mind being jealous of Buck/Eddie being closer to their boyfriend than them. Though, considering the show's target 🎯 audience, that is probably a good idea to avoid.
I think Buck and Eddie are perfect as they are .. close emotionally bonded friends
This was a great video essay, thank you for making it! I love your clever interjections and sides, your points and emotional archs were intentional and connected well with me. Keep going!
I've always thought that if mainstream audiences can relate to a character who is not like them than that character is well written
I actually stopped watching 911 for about 2 years until a friend told me I HAD to start rewatching but didn't tell me why. I was delighted that my feelings were validated. I also cried and rewatched the kiss like 5 times cause I couldn't believe it.
I adore when actors see something in their character that not even the writers realize it's there.
I was once a die hard SPN fan, but dropped it 2-3 yrs before the finale as the queer baiting & fan baiting was just exhausting and made the show too cringey.
This is my first time watching your videos and I really enjoy your passionate deadpan.
A+ So I stumbled across your video thanks to the UA-cam Wormhole Algorithm. And have never watched a second of 911. BUT I thoroughly enjoyed every moment of your quite perceptive and articulate dissection of this show and the broader queer coding movement in recent broadcast years. Just wanted to express my appreciation for a such a well constructed presentation and earnest personal reaction to this still achingly nuanced storytelling on mainstream platforms. Thank You!
Dang, you're freaking brilliant! Now I gotta start watching another channel. p.s. That was a bachelor crossover?! A bachelor did cross over to the Q-side ; )
19:36 god i loved this scene and the one when the track hits shortly before/after this 😳
thank you for this analysis on this show, love this show and bucks character storyline, queerness is important
This reminds me that I stopped watching 911 because of the man that was hinted to be queer but then never was and that really frustrated me
Yeah, they didn't do it for Eddie bc of the actor and things that he's done
Ok, wow! I didn't expect that they would ever confirm Buck to be bi. I guess it's time to catch up on season 6 and 7.
This is my first time watching one of your videos, I had never even heard of the show, but you explained everything so well and presented it so clearly with the right amount of humor. Excited to go through the rest of your catalog!
It was so odd to finally hear Oliver Stark speaking with his British accent. He's very successful dropping it for the character of Buckley.
I was also one of the wary viewers. I stopped at season 2 because I got busy with other shows that I loved, but I picked it back up when this whole thing happened.
25? Dear god I've been on this ride almost as long as you've been alive.
thank you for bringing up quentin coldwater, i will never get over what they did to him :(
Everytime someone talks about queercoding I always think about Yellowjackets because GOD are all the characters in that show queercoded and in love with each other
But why did you have to bring back the magicians 😭😭😭
2:25 I am in stitches XD, also love the color of lipstick
It's blue on top and the purple on the bottom 😅