Great Players of the Present: Wesley So

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  • Опубліковано 13 вер 2023
  • Check out Ben's Chessable courses here! www.chessable.com/author/BenF... GM Ben Finegold covers Wesley So, a Filipino and American chess grandmaster and three-time U.S. Chess Champion. This lecture was recored on August 28th, 2023 in Roswell, Georgia.
    Games:
    07:45 Wesley So vs Li Chao, Singapore Masters 2006
    16:32 Wesley So vs Morteza Mahjoob, Asian Championship 2007
    20:40 Wesley So vs Garry Kasparov, Saint Louis Blitz 2016
    29:59 Wesley So vs Var Akobian, US Chess Championship 2016
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  • @trishowsky
    @trishowsky 9 місяців тому +20

    Thanks for the lecture GM Finegold. You look amazing lately! Go Ben!

  • @robertsanders7060
    @robertsanders7060 9 місяців тому +78

    Will there be "great players of the future" also?

  • @Tom_Dutch-yc5rb
    @Tom_Dutch-yc5rb 9 місяців тому +5

    Hey GM Ben, I really loved your lectures especially this one. I hope that there might be one who will sponsor a lecture to our first Asian Grandmaster, Gm Eugene Torre. He's indeed a great Filipino player of the the past. Thanks! - From your Filipino Subscriber.

  • @Solfonny
    @Solfonny 9 місяців тому +6

    That's So Wesley!

  • @askthepizzaguy
    @askthepizzaguy 9 місяців тому +26

    He was playing like a super GM, but he wasn't a super GM yet. But here's the rub: If you play like a super GM consistently, soon enough you will indeed be a super GM.

    • @grahamdugan
      @grahamdugan 4 місяці тому +1

      So if I keep playing like a 600 one day I’ll become one?

    • @Jk-tp2ll
      @Jk-tp2ll Місяць тому

      @@grahamdugan yes

  • @gidifihrer3966
    @gidifihrer3966 9 місяців тому +6

    Crazy. Love to see why the top guys are where they are

  • @alohamark3025
    @alohamark3025 9 місяців тому +6

    Wesley So is a super-GM who is not a loud mouth schnook. What's not to like?
    In the recent 2023 SCC, he won against Alireza Firouzja, no slouch at speed chess.

  • @danjeory3659
    @danjeory3659 9 місяців тому +3

    that So - Kasparov game really was like Morphy vs. N.N. Kasparov must have been wishing he'd stayed in happy retirement. But at least he got 2 free pawns, so ultimately, they both won.

  • @patrykapiezo1650
    @patrykapiezo1650 9 місяців тому +10

    The player that fell off the chair is GM Pawel Teclaf.

    • @not2tired
      @not2tired 9 місяців тому +8

      As covered in Ben's "Great Chairs of the Past" series

  • @JojenReed
    @JojenReed 9 місяців тому +5

    My favorite Silent Killer, So!

  • @MissMailer
    @MissMailer 8 місяців тому +1

    "So the important thing is... everybody's angry." 1:20 😂

  • @lincolnfrank9849
    @lincolnfrank9849 9 місяців тому +2

    I’ve always wondered what Ben considers his greatest strength as a Chess Player is. What other GM’s and IM’s were most afraid to face when playing him. Technique in the Endgame, calculation in the middle game, incredible prep.. I wish he would do a video on himself for these lectures !

  • @steven99456
    @steven99456 9 місяців тому +2

    Thanks Ben

  • @aureliencanet830
    @aureliencanet830 9 місяців тому +2

    The funny thing about the petrosian story is that Welsey plays like petrosian (the World champ)

  • @dixonbeejay
    @dixonbeejay 2 місяці тому

    Always sacrifice the exchange .... GM finegold 🙏love it

  • @derekrios8691
    @derekrios8691 9 місяців тому +1

    You did save the best for last. What a game. I do enjoy this Wesley the most. Vladislav Artemiev is another silent assassin

  • @infinitrixtv5847
    @infinitrixtv5847 9 місяців тому +8

    He's the actual Ronaldo of the Chess World, and he really put terror to the other super GMs. His accuracy is so computer-like, like he is a legit walking computer. 💯

    • @GigaShiv
      @GigaShiv 3 місяці тому

      What is bro talking about 😂

  • @wesleythomas9131
    @wesleythomas9131 9 місяців тому +2

    Go Wesley!

  • @MastermindCpp
    @MastermindCpp 9 місяців тому

    There's 2 Bens, one is kind and funny teacher, and another's passing all pawns before checkmating when playing subscribers

  • @gm2407
    @gm2407 9 місяців тому

    Super impressed with that Kasparov beat down. He may be retired or semi retired but Garry is still a super GM with a lot of knowledge, experience and sharp memory.

  • @tolkienfan1972
    @tolkienfan1972 9 місяців тому +3

    Did So and Petrosyan ever have the $5000 grudge match? I'm guessing not

  • @eoghaininfacundodiarmuid
    @eoghaininfacundodiarmuid 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for this Wesley So analysis

  • @emask4725
    @emask4725 9 місяців тому

    Wesley So vs Ding Liren was the game of his life. Simply because it reflects his life! Serawan relates it to Wesley losing his mother and gains a foster mother.

  • @xtaf82
    @xtaf82 9 місяців тому

    At 19:18 doesn't Nxf5 work as well?

  • @remigiomagaan4550
    @remigiomagaan4550 8 місяців тому

    Go, Wesley!

  • @user-lq3ft9zh8e
    @user-lq3ft9zh8e 9 місяців тому +4

    In your opinion, Mr. Grandmaster Finegold, why did Wesley switched to a more solid, drawish style from his sharp style beforehand? And do you think Wesley would have a higher rating if he would try for a win more than go for the safe draw (i.e. would he get more wins than losses if he doesn't settle for draws)?

    • @AlvinAlmuete
      @AlvinAlmuete 9 місяців тому

      Being at the top, it must so difficult to squeeze out a win. Chess players tend to play more solid than being reckless attacker in the long run.

    • @TheChessRunner
      @TheChessRunner 8 місяців тому +1

      I think it is just personality. And probably now more in line with his personality ( and that is just part of chess too, for example Magnus is a true killer). He managed to break out that for some time, but I have given up that he will consisently do that again.
      A pitty since peak Wesley is in my top 3 favorite players of all time

  • @TalsBadKidney
    @TalsBadKidney 9 місяців тому

    hell yeah

  • @A_critter
    @A_critter 9 місяців тому

    Whats the thing petrosian said?

  • @shikaru1730
    @shikaru1730 9 місяців тому

    At 40:02 you missed he could have given up the queen also for two bishops and rook mate, flor the pizazz

  • @rdm5687
    @rdm5687 4 місяці тому

    14:16 This was instructive.

  • @upvotecomment2110
    @upvotecomment2110 9 місяців тому +2

    2:06 This is because Wesley So is a God Damn Artist!
    He DRAWS
    Get it? "Artists" He doesn't win because he "Draws" ..... Ok, I'll stop now.

  • @antoniobergara7878
    @antoniobergara7878 9 місяців тому +2

    A bit unfortunate what Magnus did to him in the SCC yesterday.

  • @MrCupidd
    @MrCupidd 9 місяців тому +3

    The latest update is Tigran Petrosian is still dead

  • @BREAKocean
    @BREAKocean 7 місяців тому

    What did tigran petrosian say?

  • @markritchie8874
    @markritchie8874 9 місяців тому +2

    Kasparov isn't generous in defeat, and his "...that was Morphy vs Amateur and I was the amateur" makes him sound generous in the re-telling. Actually he was playing down Wesley's achievement in that game. Yasser said, "...wasn't Wesley amazing....? etc" and Gary shrugged and said what he said - ie, "I played so badly, so far below my usual level that it was like Morphy v Amateur. Not such a big deal really." And re Wesley and his friendship with Akobian - in the interview after the snitching episode he replied to the question "you're friends with Akobian aren't you?" by saying "I was". So I thought it was that way round, ie He was, Snitch, he wasn't - - not, He wasn't, Snitch, he was (friends). It was a very mean snitch.

  • @wowyaywowyaywow
    @wowyaywowyaywow 9 місяців тому

    Mainly and So forth

  • @chesstacticchannel2867
    @chesstacticchannel2867 8 місяців тому

    Wesley is the nicest guy. Ben is the funniest guy in in the chess world.

  • @emask4725
    @emask4725 9 місяців тому +1

    There was a time that Wesley would sac a queen in every tournament and wins the game.

  • @HWLee-vu4hv
    @HWLee-vu4hv 9 місяців тому

    Nice story

  • @JPCPSeto
    @JPCPSeto 9 місяців тому

    I remember Wesley saying in the post-game interview - after Akobian so pathetically had him forfeited - that they weren''t friends anymore. Odd to hear now that they 'became' good friends after all.

  • @Rubrickety
    @Rubrickety 9 місяців тому

    Hm, so Wesley has a big crush on Ray Robson. I learn so much from these lectures!

  • @mistrzmateraca
    @mistrzmateraca 9 місяців тому

    Może zrobi Pan jakiś konkurs z nagrodami?

    • @patrykapiezo1650
      @patrykapiezo1650 9 місяців тому +1

      Great idea to suggest that in polish....

    • @SGTumbor
      @SGTumbor 9 місяців тому

      Pan Spokozłoto, daj pan konkurs z nagrodami@@patrykapiezo1650

  • @Rdavis6593
    @Rdavis6593 8 місяців тому

    When you introduce someone (i.e. Austin), please include last name.

  • @tonybernard4444
    @tonybernard4444 9 місяців тому

    At 40:25 there's the silly looking queen sac, but then KxB2, BA3, KxA3, RxE6 and black is up the exchange, down a couple pawns. Edit: Sorry, after QxB2, BxB2 and I should stop pretending I play chess.

  • @sheryinmoua8486
    @sheryinmoua8486 7 місяців тому

    5:14 loooool hahahah
    8:00 lol 2 wesley sos facts

  • @alfiecollins5617
    @alfiecollins5617 9 місяців тому +1

    30:00

  • @chessjess510
    @chessjess510 9 місяців тому

    Yo Ben could I sponsor a video called Mediocre players of the present where you analyze some of my games?

  • @CryOfTheLyrebird
    @CryOfTheLyrebird 9 місяців тому

    Tigran’s opponent was the best player in his chair, until he wasn’t

  • @tylermarvets8543
    @tylermarvets8543 9 місяців тому +1

    Since this is about great players when are you going to talk about bobby fischer? What made him so great?

    • @aarons3014
      @aarons3014 9 місяців тому +2

      Are you meming? In case you don't know, someone famously disrupted a lecture Ben was giving by demanding he talk about Fisher.

    • @virid6819
      @virid6819 9 місяців тому

      @@aarons3014 Was that uploaded on the channel? I'd love to see it.

    • @aarons3014
      @aarons3014 9 місяців тому

      It was when he was working at St Louis. I don't know if it was recorded, but he told the story on camera. @@virid6819

    • @paulgoogol2652
      @paulgoogol2652 9 місяців тому

      He beat Bens father. At that moment he realized that he was able to be the world champion.

    • @tylermarvets8543
      @tylermarvets8543 9 місяців тому

      @@aarons3014 yeah thats almost word for word how they interrupted ben in that instance. Then when ben got to a game where the legend he was talking about played fischer, she had already left lol

  • @ericrobinson7184
    @ericrobinson7184 9 місяців тому

    So is just too nice, he could become world champion, but doesn't want to hurt their feelings?!

  • @DrugzMunny
    @DrugzMunny 9 місяців тому +1

    Damn, is Wesley So of the past? Wikipedia says he's still of the present.

    • @DrugzMunny
      @DrugzMunny 9 місяців тому +1

      Damn. When I posted this comment 3 hours ago, the title said "Great players of the past." Now it says "Great players of the present." My voice is really making a difference in the world.

    • @DrugzMunny
      @DrugzMunny 8 місяців тому +1

      I'm sorry to whoever had to change all of those video titles because of me. Sorry Karen.

  • @pierQRzt180
    @pierQRzt180 9 місяців тому +4

    P1p1

  • @danielroberger2374
    @danielroberger2374 9 місяців тому

    Why angry about Wesley???

  • @HereWasDede
    @HereWasDede 9 місяців тому

    soooooooo

  • @kmarasin
    @kmarasin 9 місяців тому

    Man, Wesley So is like the James Harden of chess. Savant, but never gets right to the top. All the candidates tournaments he's just laid eggs. He can't seem to get past Nepo and Ding and Karjakin and Caruana. I can see why Ben is such a big fan of his chess, but for some reason it isn't translating to the world championships.

    • @infinitrixtv5847
      @infinitrixtv5847 9 місяців тому +1

      I don't think So. Wesley So is more like Ronaldo who is improving more and more his craft. He is a savant but he acknowledges that there are some players that are better and when you look now at his battle against Firouja he is going balistic and he is unfavorable most of the time but he shows time and time again that he's a world champ.

  • @answeris4217
    @answeris4217 9 місяців тому

    That Jesus joke...wow so funny.

  • @Danthrax81
    @Danthrax81 9 місяців тому

    So what?

  • @danielroberger2374
    @danielroberger2374 9 місяців тому

    I agree with Wesley So about Jesus. Thats for sure.

  • @evanm6739
    @evanm6739 9 місяців тому

    Purple shirt = Purple board >:(

  • @joelcuerrier4833
    @joelcuerrier4833 9 місяців тому +1

    If So said so, is it not so? It gotta be so if So said so.

  • @PhildoBaggins
    @PhildoBaggins 9 місяців тому

    And you can read more about it in the Bible

  • @basvanvliet288
    @basvanvliet288 9 місяців тому

    Does he have new false teeth that are too big ?
    Edit: you can see his left cheek is a bit swollen and hanging, think he just got a molar extracted. Hope it gets better soon!

  • @ghostx1xx
    @ghostx1xx 9 місяців тому +4

    What's wrong with his voice

    • @vigilante8374
      @vigilante8374 9 місяців тому +18

      The tooth hurts.

    • @askthepizzaguy
      @askthepizzaguy 9 місяців тому

      Guessing dental issue.

    • @ericgomez6801
      @ericgomez6801 9 місяців тому +4

      He wants to sound like Wesley So

    • @zrs1019
      @zrs1019 9 місяців тому +4

      ​@@vigilante8374The only time "the truth hurts" joke made me laugh

    • @_nemo171
      @_nemo171 9 місяців тому

      Aims to confuse the audience.

  • @sublimeade
    @sublimeade 9 місяців тому

    Ben developing a speech impediment?

  • @iseriver3982
    @iseriver3982 9 місяців тому

    Im not a fan of countries buying foreign players, no matter how nice they are, its just stupid.

    • @OrangeBarnacle
      @OrangeBarnacle 9 місяців тому +7

      In most cases, they leave due to inadequate support from their original country. It then makes sense to go to the countries with the best support

    • @iseriver3982
      @iseriver3982 9 місяців тому

      @@OrangeBarnacle there's thousands of football players playing outside of their native countries because their domestic leagues aren't very good. That doesn't mean they should be eligible to play for a foreign country.

    • @drbrightrules8397
      @drbrightrules8397 9 місяців тому +3

      ​@@iseriver3982so you would prefer geniuses like So never get their chance to get to the level they deserve?

    • @reconnaisance
      @reconnaisance 9 місяців тому +5

      Wesley wanted to move to the US, practically, for a better life. You're calling him a bad guy for wanting that.

    • @iseriver3982
      @iseriver3982 9 місяців тому +2

      @@reconnaisance he can live in the USA and still play for the Philippines

  • @ArmstrongMC1
    @ArmstrongMC1 9 місяців тому +1

    Just want to say that is unfair he has Jesus helping him. Terrible!

  • @mikkelhansen3714
    @mikkelhansen3714 5 місяців тому

    Inside Wesley there are two wolves. One of them is gay - the other one is also gay.

  • @germanchris4440
    @germanchris4440 9 місяців тому +1

    Just one important point in passing: the Lord Jesus Christ is not a religion, but the truth. I am enormously happy to hear that there is a top GM who has accepted this saving truth!

  • @fireballxl-5748
    @fireballxl-5748 9 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for saying Wesley is a Christian. I can't wait to play him in heaven. I'd like to play you too but....Jews are still partly blinded until after the church age is over, which may be in a few days...in which case you'll likely have to die for your faith but it's much better than burning for eternity. Get saved today Ben and you'll avoid having to die AND/OR living through 7 years of hell on earth. MUCH BETTER. I bet if you accept your Messiah I will beat you in chess in about a million years, but that's okay because that's only a million years and eternity is forever.

    • @spyroninja
      @spyroninja 9 місяців тому

      Ben is for sure an atheist. Just a jew in name.

  • @mattkim96
    @mattkim96 3 місяці тому

    26:53 “sacking the exchange 🫰💃 Again”