John Gray on ‘The New Leviathans - Thoughts after Liberalism’

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  • John Gray on ‘The New Leviathans - Thoughts after Liberalism’ | Professor John Gray | Tuesday 19th March 2024, Queen Square, Bath.
    In The New Leviathans, John Gray allows us to understand the world of the 2020s with all its contradictions, moral horrors and disappointments through a new reading of Hobbes’ classic work. The collapse of the Soviet Union ushered in an era of near-apocalyptic triumphalism in the West: a genuine belief that a rational, liberal, well-managed future now awaited humankind and that tyranny, nationalism and unreason lay in the past. Since then, so many terrible events have occurred and so many poisonous ideas flourished, and yet still our liberal certainties treat them as aberrations which will somehow dissolve away. Hobbes would not be so confident.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 18

  • @leststoner
    @leststoner Місяць тому

    👏👏👏

  • @tonyaldridge8917
    @tonyaldridge8917 Місяць тому

    So how many were in the room? Put me in the tombola for… 29, amazing talk tho, will watch again, been a big fan for many years

  • @ubiktd4064
    @ubiktd4064 11 днів тому

    I noticed recently as an avid searcher for new philosophy books that John Grays books that used to be a staple have all disappeared ?
    Has he been cancelled?

  • @MrBeautifulmountain
    @MrBeautifulmountain Місяць тому +6

    Someone should have asked him about the role of Islam in the West in the next 50 years.

  • @steffg8351
    @steffg8351 27 днів тому +1

    53:12 'I think the next [what?] is probably going to be universities....'

  • @wmgodfrey1770
    @wmgodfrey1770 Місяць тому +4

    Zeihan and Gray should get together for a discussion in the same room.

    • @advocate1563
      @advocate1563 Місяць тому +2

      Why? Fundamentally different fields and approaches

    • @MrBeautifulmountain
      @MrBeautifulmountain Місяць тому +1

      @@advocate1563 There is some overlap in the sense that they both forecast.

    • @rogcrater8193
      @rogcrater8193 25 днів тому

      No

  • @Troy-Weight
    @Troy-Weight Годину тому

    I found it disturbing that Grey adopted Collingwood’s title but never distanced himself from Collingwood - you should know what I mean - if you have read Collingwood’s advice on bullying and lying in politics.
    To me Grey maybe understood Russian and China but did not understand England. I would start the clock with Bacon not Hobbes, and see a slow crawl towards scientific enlightenment and democracy which really reached a peak with universal suffrage in 1928, pushed by Mill, Russell etc.
    Keynes, like Collingwood, was terrified of democracy and was actively working to undermine it before it even started. That is undeniable, but Grey seemed completely blind to it.
    From this outing he seemed to have (correctly) rejected the frying pan of complacency in Fukuyama, but only in order to (disastrously) jump into the fire of arbitrary denial of scientific and social progress served up by Kuhn.
    The both of them rather deliberate corollaries to Keynes

  • @OrwellsHousecat
    @OrwellsHousecat Місяць тому +2

    London is nice & safe & pieceful