John Gray on ‘The New Leviathans - Thoughts after Liberalism’

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  • @frankscavelli6031
    @frankscavelli6031 4 місяці тому +4

    Perhaps the most erudite and wordly political philosopher. I wish you would write more, or write a truly expansive ‘academic’ book about modernity, John!

  • @ubiktd4064
    @ubiktd4064 7 місяців тому +2

    I noticed recently as an avid searcher for new philosophy books that John Grays books that used to be a staple have all disappeared ?
    Has he been cancelled?

    • @AP-yx1mm
      @AP-yx1mm 5 місяців тому +2

      Never crossed your mind you are not good at looking for books?

    • @brianfuata1014
      @brianfuata1014 5 місяців тому

      @@AP-yx1mm lol

    • @goodgrief888
      @goodgrief888 Місяць тому +1

      @@AP-yx1mmmaybe you misunderstood what that person was asking. I understood them to mean from academy, from college course material lists. You thought they meant from planet earth, and then insulted them based on your simple mindedness.

  • @MrBeautifulmountain
    @MrBeautifulmountain 7 місяців тому +10

    Someone should have asked him about the role of Islam in the West in the next 50 years.

    • @ajs41
      @ajs41 6 місяців тому +1

      He's talked about that a lot in his other interviews/talks/lectures.

    • @evolassunglasses4673
      @evolassunglasses4673 22 дні тому

      It's going to be massive.

  • @philnewton3096
    @philnewton3096 6 місяців тому

    1:01/49 h melville. What about the Thomas Armstrong novel of Liverpool "King cotton " ? My Dad swore by it.

  • @steffg8351
    @steffg8351 7 місяців тому +1

    53:12 'I think the next [what?] is probably going to be universities....'

  • @philnewton3096
    @philnewton3096 6 місяців тому

    And the Rennes professor Jaques Guys "a journey across the channell" He taught here on exchange.
    "

  • @wmgodfrey1770
    @wmgodfrey1770 8 місяців тому +5

    Zeihan and Gray should get together for a discussion in the same room.

    • @advocate1563
      @advocate1563 8 місяців тому +3

      Why? Fundamentally different fields and approaches

    • @MrBeautifulmountain
      @MrBeautifulmountain 7 місяців тому +1

      @@advocate1563 There is some overlap in the sense that they both forecast.

    • @rogcrater8193
      @rogcrater8193 7 місяців тому +3

      No

    • @klaunwelt4404
      @klaunwelt4404 4 місяці тому +4

      Zeihan is a midwit Fukuyama. A complete waste of time.

    • @Dipsnaps
      @Dipsnaps Місяць тому

      Fundamentally different IQ categories.

  • @leststoner
    @leststoner 8 місяців тому

    👏👏👏

  • @OrwellsHousecat
    @OrwellsHousecat 8 місяців тому +3

    London is nice & safe & pieceful

    • @janmalaszek1459
      @janmalaszek1459 8 місяців тому +2

      I guess this meant to be ironic?

    • @NorthernObserver
      @NorthernObserver 8 місяців тому +3

      Many people in many pieces.

    • @advocate1563
      @advocate1563 8 місяців тому +1

      April 1st? London has fallen.

    • @lukebarton5075
      @lukebarton5075 3 місяці тому

      @orw
      Do you mean that London is full of pieces?
      Or did you mean peaceful. London is very safe, less peaceful due to the fact that it’s a very large city. Cities do tend to be less peaceful than smaller towns and rural areas. That’s pretty much because of the larger amounts of people that live there.

  • @Troy-Weight
    @Troy-Weight 6 місяців тому +1

    I found it disturbing that Grey adopted Collingwood’s title but never distanced himself from Collingwood - you should know what I mean - if you have read Collingwood’s advice on bullying and lying in politics.
    To me Grey maybe understood Russian and China but did not understand England. I would start the clock with Bacon not Hobbes, and see a slow crawl towards scientific enlightenment and democracy which really reached a peak with universal suffrage in 1928, pushed by Mill, Russell etc.
    Keynes, like Collingwood, was terrified of democracy and was actively working to undermine it before it even started. That is undeniable, but Grey seemed completely blind to it.
    From this outing he seemed to have (correctly) rejected the frying pan of complacency in Fukuyama, but only in order to (disastrously) jump into the fire of arbitrary denial of scientific and social progress served up by Kuhn.
    The both of them rather deliberate corollaries to Keynes

  • @dianasitek3595
    @dianasitek3595 19 днів тому

    I'm sick to death of the self-appointed intelligentsia bashing Donald Trump. But then bigoted people can never open their eyes.

  • @AdamCherad
    @AdamCherad 5 місяців тому

    John gray is a dove, a propaganda mouthpiece for the establishment.

    • @homemaintenance1234
      @homemaintenance1234 4 місяці тому +2

      That’s a new one.

    • @azanulbizar12
      @azanulbizar12 2 місяці тому

      And what are you? What values are you propagating? Tell us and we will judge whom you are serving

    • @evolassunglasses4673
      @evolassunglasses4673 22 дні тому

      Liberalism is the ultimate establishment ideology

  • @lindontilson471
    @lindontilson471 5 місяців тому

    Such a pessimist. Then admits to writing for the guardian 😂

    • @lukebarton5075
      @lukebarton5075 3 місяці тому

      @lindo
      Much better to write comments on youtube don’t you think?

    • @azanulbizar12
      @azanulbizar12 2 місяці тому

      Liberalism means a sense of individuality and independence, so you can write and keep your values anywhere. I know it's something you conservative propaganda-eaters are not used to.

    • @evolassunglasses4673
      @evolassunglasses4673 22 дні тому

      At this stage of late stage Liberalism, late stage Usury to have optimisation is cowardice.

    • @evolassunglasses4673
      @evolassunglasses4673 22 дні тому

      ​@@azanulbizar12 Liberalism now means conformity